Somehow, FighterZ has returned.
>>722992503Still the best 2d on the market.
>>722992503that's fucking crazyalso are the niggas they called for the tournament even gonna practice for it
>>722992503Cool.But Daimashit won't save it.
>>722992503'One more bonus' line will feed Toei's next 2 generations
>>722992503Thank God
>>722992503Daima SS4 looks so fucking bad.
>>722992503Deformed hands.
Just release FighterZ 2 or One Piece Fighters at this point. DBFZ has become a wacky party game.
It's about time for the super anime to comeback. Why is it taking so long?
>>722993720NOOOOOOO BEJITA!!!!! SOMEONE SAVE HIM! IT'S NOT FAIR! IT'S NOT FUCKING FAIR!!!!!
>>722993837Caught up in some legal shit due to Toriyama's passing.
It should have been SSJ3 Vegeta.
>>722993754What would be the point of FighterZ 2?The roster would be the sameThe graphics wouldn't improve muchA relaunch for the new generation with new content and characters would make more sense
>>722992503Which version of Goketa is this?
>>722994636That's Daima SSJ4 Goku, bro.
Daima was so ass. Great animation but ass
>>722992503We're so back
>>722992503It's crazy how Super somehow managed to fuck up even the unadulterated kino that is SSJ4.I always said they should bring it back. Something about a monkey's paw.
>>722995157Daima =/= Super
Super 2 (if it returns) will combine UI with SS4.
thought they were 100% done with this after lab coat 21actually a surprise but not enough to get me to reinstall
>>722995227It is part of the Super era.
>>722993837They don't have the rights to adapt mangaImagine the shitshow if they made their own arcs after ToP while Moro and Granolah gets ignored, people would go nuts.
>>722992503See, FighterZ is their Dragonball tournament e-sport entry. You can have your balance and shit in that game and have your tourneys and competitive modes. Sparking Zero, being a Budokai Tenkaichi should never have leaned into that.
>>722992503>>722995456It's crazy how Sparking Zero just added him and the hype is already gone (not that there ever was any), meanwhile FZ and Kakarot will be adding THE SAME CHARACTER in 2026 and people will be hyped.People shouldn't have trusted Spike ever again after Jump F*rc*
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>>722992503We get this nasty as thing and not ss4 goki and Vegeta?
>>722992503I don't get it, isnt that just db gt fusion? What's daima?
>>722995320Actually, Daima retconned events in Super in the very first episode.
>>722995586>Retard in charge of observing details
>>722992503The way DBZ used to get yearly games to now updating games that are almost a decade old is crazy Xenoverse 2 may never die
>>722995582Oh yeah, FighterZ skipped the good SS4s. What a clown game.
>>722992503>daimashit ss4would why they taint fighterz like this, should've just left it as is
>>722992503Don't care, already got SS4 Gogeta.
>>722994021Gameplay changes? You know, like every fighting game sequel? They also still have a trove of GT and Super manga characters left.
>still the best designed SS4 GokuApologize.
>>722996321They already said tomorrow's update is bringing not only balance changes but new mechanics as well. This is FighterZ 2 at this point.
>>722994021>What would be the point of FighterZ 2?>The roster would be the sameIt wouldn't be, we would get 20-ish characters at launch at best, then DLC of more Gokus, Vegetas, etc, because that's what sells.
>>722995782>The way DBZ used to get yearly games to now updating games that are almost a decade old is crazy>Xenoverse 2 may never dieBack then they couldn't update game data. They would have to release a whole new game to update itBT3 is basically just BT2 updated.
>>722995782>kakarot>sparkling zero>like 3 shitty multi-player games
>More GokusThe guy and his samefaces are like half the roster kek
>>722993754one iece would be cool, puppetteer doffy
Why won't they add Moro or Granolah?
>>722996808>BT3 is basically just BT2 updated.except you didn't need to buy BT1 and BT2 to get it, nowadays you have to pay for several years of DLC which is just ridiculously expensive even when discounted/bundled just to get the equivalent of what'd you get with one purchase back then
>>722992503If this results in them un-fucking that horrendous last patch then I'll be happy
>>722992503Is this just a random fling or are they going to be doing a new season of content?
>>722995305>thought they were 100% done with this after lab coat 21Me too, definitely a surprise to be sure
>>722997069More likely a random fling
>>722996986License problemsAlso, they aren't popular in Japan enough for Bandai and the devs to care
>>722996986Thou shall wait for them to be animated first
>>722992503>Every time I remember I wasted 70$ on Sparking Zero
>>722997014>except you didn't need to buy BT1 and BT2 to get it, nowadays you have to pay for several years of DLC which is just ridiculously expensive even when discounted/bundled just to get the equivalent of what'd you get with one purchase back thenBamco could release FighterZ Complete Edition or Xenoverse 2 Complete Edition but they never will
>>722996986Rights issues probably, Dragon Ball's IP has become a mess, especially after Toriyama's passing.Moro's moveset would be great (and his original demon goat design is pretty good), but lets be honest, casuals don't know about him, you're better off trying to sell a Majin Vegeta DLC or something.
Balance patch tomorrow btw. They're buffing deflect.
>>722997014>The game with first 8 DLC characters currently $14 on Steam>Console players can pick up the base game for like 9 bucks at your local FUCKING GAMESTOP, probably better deals on places like ebay/marketplace/whatever>>722997330>FighterZ Complete EditionThey called it the Legendary Edition, but they did that already
just pull a SF4 and release different versions with increased roster.also their dlc is really fucking expensive
>>722992503>ssj4 goku>it's the retarded daima onefucking why?
>Base Goku>SS Goku >SSB Goku>UI Goku>GT Kid Goku>Daima SS GokuYou can now have a 3v3 match with only unique Gokus. Jesus Christ.
>>722992503Tokon victim.
>>722992503i swear the only things stopping DBFZ from being as good as it could be is whatever bullshit bamco has going on with Arcsys, and the goku DLC curse. other than that its managed to be one of my favorite games to play and watch and i was completely fine with them choosing to close out support on a high note
They should have just put out the update immediately following the top 8 I want to play now but there's no point when the patch isn't until tomorrow.
>>722994021They could actually redo the core mechanics to include mid-battle transformations, at least for GokuDoesn't feel right to not include it, doesn't fit his characterAnd you'd still have like 4+ versions of him anyway
>>722997602>Base Goku>SS Goku>UI GokuCHAD team>SSB Goku>GT Goku>Daima GokuTrash team
>>722997508to be fair I was mostly talking about xenoverse 2 with that, I really don't look at fighterz prices because I already own the game and DLCs
>>722992503When are they adding DB Heroes/BS characters to FighterZ though.
>>722992503>daima ssj4oh for fuck sake, please just give us the option to switch to GT
>>722992503I'm so upset it isn't regular SS4. I'd been asking for that since day 1.
>>722997883Only Toriyama designed characters are allowed
>>722993720>yaoi hands for the fujo audience
ROBBED
>>722992503Tokon will bury it.
>>722996986They have no voices.
>>722998079That shit will be relevant for like a month and then be flopgotten
>>722997961>Bardock>Movie villains>anything GTThere's lots of Toei OCs
>>722998162>anything GTToriyama designed like 80% of the cast there except for the villains.
>>722998162>>Bardock>>Movie villainsToriyama designed those
>>722998156>Daipa out of nowhere
>>722998191he didn't design super saiyan 4 (either daima or GT's version)
>>722998017>implyingThey're saving him for the big ass tournament next year. This time, however, most of the FighterZ fanbase is going to be watching since it's going to be in North America. I guarantee you they will show Gohan Beast and Orange Piccolo.We have six months to prepare for the biggest spic orgasm since Gohan Blanco went viral
>>722998193I'm pretty sure he didn't design Kefla, only Caulifla.
>>722993754if a good quality jujutsu kaisen fighting game came out right now it would make 1 octillion dollars. i dont understand why these companies ignore the literal gold mines they are sitting on and just shit out arena fighter trash
>>722997408Looked like a guard cancel version. Surely we can punish Vegito with it.
Soon it will be her time to shine.
>>722993720They're better for grabbing fat titties.
>>722998671
They should make a fighter but only include what lf fanfic tier characters>Goku and Gohan Fusion>SS5 Goku (UI+SS4)>Black Frieza>Gohan Black>GoD Vegeta>Perfect Cell Max>Buugito>Orange Daimao
Post your genuine criticisms of DAIMA
>>722996986Moro final form is trash. The old goat look he had was better. Made him look more like a boss villian rather than some babyface faggot
>>722995305they finally have a chance to fix their mistakes by finally adding him at the very last minute
>>722993720The crystal treatment is working
>>722992503>We finally get Goku SSJ4>It's Daima What a garbage comeback
>>722995782Everything used to get yearly games, now games take a decade to develop to they just get updates after that
>>722999376He would be so fucking good. Game Boy bomb is a must.
>>722999328>Goku and everyone involved don't have a personality>Namek, Desert, Desert with a red sky>Arinus and her gang doesn't do anything>SS4 is ugly and unnecessaryPretty bland mini-series
>>722996986No one cares about this garbage fanfic
>>722992503i don't support anything that came after Super Broly, so i won't be buying this slop. shame they're trying to revive FighterZ with a character that can't even sell new toys. there's a real chance this is stillborn because they didn't lead with a popular character.
Is this a single one and only DLC, part of a package or a freebie (yeah right)?
>>722992503HOLY FUCK, hopefully they don't buff Vegito again
>>722999328>Boring>Dragged out>Pointless >Goku acts even more retarded than in super somehow>Every new form was ugly as fuckThe only good part was arinsu and panzy porn
>>722996986Toyotarou wrote everything after Super Broly by himself and Shueisha have zero confidence in him (which is the correct appraisal on their part). It's basically fan fiction that Toriyama glanced over and approved for publishing.
Post your genuine criticisms about Chiaotzu not being playable.>inb4 no moves
>>722999830Auto combos
>>722992503I can't get over how dumb the giant fists look
>>722999689lab coat 21 was paid, you can almost guarantee this is
>>722999829>It's basically fan fiction that Toriyama glanced over and approved for publishing.That's true for everything that came after Battle of Gods btw, the "Toriyama involvement" that retards use to call stuff canon was mostly just him looking at scripts and saying ok, sometimes giving some vague outlines but that's it
>>722992503This game has enough fellas in it. I'm not giving them another cent unless they add Kale.
>>722996986Moro and Granolah are embarrassing. Even Daipa is better.
I see little to no hype for SSJ4 Daima GokuIt should have been HIM instead. DBFZ would have been the #1 trending topic on twitter and google searches if they had announced SSJ3 Vegeta.
figherz dlc should have stopped herehttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A-Eb1tAczEklabcoat 21 was lazy as fuck and a last minute cashgrabthere's nothing good from daimahell, daima killed sparking zero
>>723000000WASTED
>>722996986Needs to be this design though.
No>Hercule>Pan and Giru>Chi-Chi>Bojack>Turles>Super Buu>Dabura>Arale>Omega Shenron>Gero and 19>Whis>Raditz
>>723000178TRVTH NVKE
>>722999328It was underbaked and you can tell that no one wants to commit to going past EoZ so they keep making inbetween sequels that step on the toes of each other. If you invested time and money in Super, your investment just became obsolete when Daima appeared, never mind the manga not concluding and that 'ending' was a half-assed job due to Toriyama dying. Daima wasn't even around a year and look how little impact it has. They'll keep on shilling it but it's clear it has nothing to stand on outside of being 'canon' and people are wising up to that shtick, poor writing and storytelling are just that, regardless of the source material.
>>723000217>>Raditzthis one pains me
>>723000216this design or the stage after it but before he became Cell, and then use his Ultra Instinct form for a Level 3.
>>722992503Wow, that's crazy
>>722998260>he didn't design THE best goku design or the ripoffThey should promote/rehire whoever did the original
>>723000159>The other garbage Daima formHe's not even close to the goat
>>722996986>there are retards that not only enjoy this garbage, but try to force it into every game.You "What If" garbage is so fucking horrible even Dragon Ball Heroes didn't touch it wiht a 10 foot pole.Take the fucking clue you Super fucking retards.
>>723000178Sparking Zero was dead before Daipa.>tfw no offline content or online and offline co-op modes
>6 different Gocows>3 Bejitas, and we get a FighterZ 2, Majin and Daima SS3 are serious contendersMeanwhile no Pikkon, nor Mr. Satan.
>>723000250>no one wants to commit to going past EoZ so they keep making inbetween sequelsWhy not go past EoZ?
>>723000459>Meanwhile no Pikkon, nor Mr. Satan.Pikkon was replaced with Hit
is ultra ego vegeta a never?
Post your FighterZ mains>Broly (Super)>Goku Black>Kefla
>>723000428Sparking Zero never had a chance anyway, BT3 was fun because it was made to be a mindless fun game, but modern fighting games aren't allowed to be fun because they're designed with tourneycucks in mind, so you get garbage rosters more worried about balance rather than being interesting and no fun extra modes because everyone will only play online ranked matches
>>723000585What does Purple Vegeta offer that Base Vegeta, SSJ Vegeta and Blue Vegeta don't?
>>723000501They're afraid of being compared to GT
>>723000040>unless they add KaleBut which form? The Berserker or the controlled one?
>>723000615Brother SZ was more poorly balanced than Bt3.
Xenoverse, Tenkaichi and SZ are for big rostersFighterZ should have limited itself to only the a few relevant Manga and Z characters and then add DLC for a few Movie/GT/Super/Daima characters
>>723000651the more he loses, the stronger he becomesuntil he loses too much and then he just losesreally its just purple hakai shit
>>722992503Is it just him or will there be more? I want more bad guys: Syn, Super Buu, Raditz, Bojack, and Tao Pai Pai
>>722992503Genuinely speaking, who is left to add into the game outside some movie guys like turless (another goku), bojack, and some of gt cast like pan, i really can't think of anyone else worth adding outside daima goku and bejita (ssj3)
>>723000652>What does Purple Vegeta offer that Base Vegeta, SSJ Vegeta and Blue Vegeta don't?NTA, but Purple Vegeta actually gets stronger the more damaged he gets, he is unironically more interesting than GT SS4 Vegeta, Majin Vegeta or Daima SS3 Vegeta.
>>723000745>FighterZ should have limited itselfWhat? FighterZ benefits more from having a big roster due to it being a tag team fighter.
>>723000725That's because modern games are also all badly made
>>722999328It was just boring but well animated until they went full creatively bankrupt exploitation by replacing classic character designs with tacky parody-coded ones for no other reason than to try to sell new merch. I'll never forgive Toriyama for making such an irresponsible decision. Using the original designs and making them "canon" could have been a beautiful, full-circle moment for the fans to unify behind as an incredible send-off to Toriyama's extensive legacy. It could have opened awesome doors for the future of DBS.But fuck that, let's just paint bucket Super Saiyan 4 SSG red and add gorilla forearms to try and sell some gacha tickets and new figurines, right?
>>723000876Fair enough
>>723000840This game doesn't even have the proper SSJ4 Goku
10 years later.. what's the verdict on Dragon Ball Super? The story takes place some time between manga chapters 517 and 518, a decade’s worth of time not shown in the series and gave us:Beerus, God of DestructionWhisGolden FreezaChampa, God of DestructionVadosHitGoku BlackZamasuJirenCANON BrolyMoroGranolaCELL MAX
>>722993754Physical version with all DLC already included would be tits
>>723000890Daima should've been the short web special it was planned to be, they clearly had nothing to add when they decided to expand it into a full series
>>723000840herculechichizarbonpikkonthe game also lacking a shitload of good stages
>>723000501I don't know, it's untapped potential in my opinion. GT continued the trend of progression regardless of its execution and set up the foundation of what a sequel or continuation should and don't do. It's in a spot that doesn't force itself within the original story and also sets up a new starting point with Goku and Vegeta Jr. Two characters they can use and mold to their liking instead of forcing the original Goku and Vegeta nonstop in roles that contradict their characterization.If they create a new series, it'll be another after Buu gets defeated but takes place before EoZ series, and they can't use Toriyama as a scapegoat anymore.
>>723000890>It was just boring but well animated until they went full creatively bankrupt exploitation by replacing classic character designs with tacky parody-coded ones for no other reason than to try to sell new merch. I'll never forgive Toriyama for making such an irresponsible decision. Using the original designs and making them "canon" could have been a beautiful, full-circle moment for the fans to unify behind as an incredible send-off to Toriyama's extensive legacy. It could have opened awesome doors for the future of DBS.They pitched Dragon Ball GT 30th Anniversary to Toriyama, and he wrote Daima on a napkin Toriyama wanted>Battle of Gods>Resurrection F>U6>Zamasu>Tournament of PowerAkio Iyoku wanted>Future Trunks>Kale (Female Broly)>Broly>Super Hero>Daima (GT 30th Anniversary)
>>723000967The manga is absolute garbage, only retards who waste more time with abridged and DB YouTubers what ifs can enjoy itThe anime was better in a mindless slop watch way, but still not good
>>723000890A lot of people don't understand about Daima; the fact is that it was meant to be another GT. Toriyama was only involved in later years of Daima's development; even with his involvement, he didn't really add much besides redesigning the SS4 and maybe some little bits of lore details.
>>723000598Majin 21TrunksYamchaidc if the team is bad. I just pick my favorites
>>723000040broly is already in the game and the disgusting whore trashfla is not worth adding
>>723001058Iyoku a SHITIf he gets full creative control over the IP we can only expect fanfic and clap tier shit Dude remember broly dude remember gt dude remember SS2 Gohan and Cell and all worse than the originals.
>>723000598>Videl (Twintails)>Kefla>18
>>722993754Wan Piss will never get a single good game just how God wants itOnly Dragon Ball is allowed to get good games
>>723000967Massive wasted potential. Every single arc starts off interesting and then immediately shits the bed by the end.
>>723000840Stages, like the Kame House.
>>723000598>Bardock>Yamcha>Kefla / Adult Gohan
>>723000967super is the single worst that happened to DBit destroyed the fanbase
Not even one yellow monkey girl titty, what did I even click on this thread for
>>723000840There are plenty of manga characters that haven't made it >Demon King Piccolo>Raditz>Jeice >Dabura>Super Buu
>>722993754>One Piece fighter>matchmaking is full of brownoids running Shanks/Mihawk/Zoro>/v/ laughs while bodying them with Doflamingo/Crocodile/BuggyMite B Cool
>>723000967For me it was kind of what was expected, Not great but not horrible. It could've been far, FAR worse than it actually was.If Toriyama could come up with something to knock people off their feet he would've done it some time between dbz and dbs but we all know that never happened even with Toei practically begging him to make more dragon ball.
>>723000967The Goku Black arc is one of the worst piles of shit ever made. It doesn't matter which one you prefer, manga or anime; it is shit all the same.>Dude let's bring back Trunks and ruined his bitersweet ending>Dude what if a green elf stole Goku's body because he fought him once and immediately assume Goku is the strongest mortal ever>Dude another shitty recolor transformation that makes no sense>Dude lets make the main villain invincible again for 100th time>Dude let's bring back Vegerotto but he doesn't do anything>Dude let's give Trunks a spirit bomb sword which makes no sense >Dude let's wipe Trunks' timeline out of face of the universe
>>723001903 As summarized by Herms:>Toriyama got the inspiration for Goku Black from "copies of the hero" characters such as Fake Ultra Man, Fake Kamen Rider, and...Kamen Rider Black.>Goku and Vegeta didn't fuse in Toriyama's original draft. Toyotaro says that to meet "fan expectations", it was therefore necessary to create a situation where they had no choice but to fuse, since their personalities would probably prevent them from ever fusing again after the Buu arc. Toriyama says this was a good idea.>As part of the above, Toyotaro says that "Zamasu" wasn't all that strong in Toriyama's original draft; though immortal, two Super Saiyan Blues could handle him (this might be the part Toyotaro mentioned on Twitter is supposed to say "Merged Zamasu").>Trunks training in the Kaioshin Realm and getting healing powers were Toyotaro's ideas.>Vegeta going Super Saiyan God was also Toyotaro's idea, but Toriyama says he edited/supervised it.>Many of the "twists and turns" leading up to Goku's final showdown with Zamasu were also Toyotaro's idea, but they don't go into further specifics.>For the Future Trunks arc, most of the time Toriyama approved Toyotaro's manga rough drafts on the first go-round, but he did offer corrections at times. He says that while before Toyotaro was just "chasing after my DB", now he's started showing his own color. However, he thinks Toyotaro's battle scenes are a bit too "careful", and that it'd be better if he drew them with a rougher touch.
>>723001903thats the entirety of super>purple cat that somehow stronger than every previous villain>here's more saiyans but they're skinny, loud, obnoxious and lame also they also can go ssj for no reason at all >freeza is back too but with a reskin just like goku who has blue ssj >we also redid ginyu and brought back future trunks just to shit on him and his future
>>723002221>purple cat that somehow stronger than every previous villain>here's more saiyans but they're skinny, loud, obnoxious and lame also they also can go ssj for no reason at allCell Saga and Buu Saga already did this >androids that somehow stronger than every previous villain>here's trunks they also can go ssj for no reason at all>majin buu that somehow stronger than every previous villain>here's more saiyans but they're skinny, loud, obnoxious and lame also they also can go ssj for no reason at allNew villain that somehow stronger than every previous villain has always been common in Dragon Ball from the beginning
>>723002221>>purple cat that somehow stronger than every previous villain>>here's more saiyans but they're skinny, loud, obnoxious and lame also they also can go ssj for no reason at allThese are fine. U6 Saiyans are their own thing, but Kale being Broly is a bit too on the nose. Beerus being stronger than every last villain from the past isn't anything to get mad at because that is the whole theme of Dragon Ball. Except there is someone out there stronger than you.
>I have to share the same online space as DBschizos againPlease Christ just ruin it like your "final" patch this thread is already too much faggotry
>>723000967Super anime sucked generally. Low quality remake of the most recent material with extra filler? Oh boy! Goku Black/Zamasu was cool if you turned your brain off though. Like I genuinely like the aesthetic of Rose and of Fused Zamasu before corruption. Tournament of Power is literally everything people tired to make fun of Z for. It's half the episodes of the fucking series, despite taking place over 48 minutes, shit power scaling, it all comes down to Goku getting a new hair color, dragon balls remove all consequences. Like most of that shit wasn't really a thing before, it was just how sceptics saw it from the outside, and then ToP made it all very real. The manga made a couple appreciated touch ups going back over the anime material, but was generally eh until you get beyond the ToP at which point it becomes truly shit tier spicfic, I have more respect for Heroes and Xenoverse content. Broly movie was great though, too bad Super Hero wasn't.
>>723002479>U6 Saiyans are their own thingthey are notif they were they would have gotten different ssj forms to make them unique since they are from a different universe instead we got the worst trash ever imagined >copy and paste from u7 saiyan forms
>>723000840Mr Satan
>>722992503This is fascinating. Mandatory dlc for daima ruined Sparking Zero's monentum but here it might just help Fighterz get a little bit of momentum. Still waiting for a Budokai series title.
>>722999830How did he stay so weak after all this time? Is he incapable of learning from all the greats or something?
>>722993720Ss4 daimaku is ugly lol.
>>723002758So you want more recolor transformations? Also, why the fuck would anyone with a brain care about some random Saiyan jobbers getting an outdated and weak transformation? Seems pretty fucking pointless to complain about.
>>722996808Same for the budokai tenkaichi series.
Did they ever add Raditz?
>>722997671Capeshiter begone!
>>723003130Raditz was completely forgotten after DBZ Episode 5
Why does everyone hate super now?
I'll never understand why they didn't add to the single player campaign mode with all the new fighterz pass characters. Would have been nice and would have come before SF6 world tour.
>>722997671Thats a migthy peculiar buck
>>723002992no i want the writers to be more creative>so the u6 saiyans don't have tails. lets them have grow tails and give them spiky ears when they go ssjtheres so much you can do instead of doing the same shitty thing we already have seen before u6 is probably the most insulting thing from super because its the most lazy and copy paste shit ever
>>722996986>Could have had a cool Evil Space Wizard Goat as a bad guy using magic and shit>Nope, he's just Cell. You can a cool thing and ruined it
>>722999083There ain't a bra strong enough to hold them titties when she's whipping around in combat.
>>723003356>nowit always was hated the flaws are just more apparent now that its over
>>722996986The wait for more Dragon Ball and the possibility that this will never get adapted is making me seriously consider reading the manga. It’s been 4 fucking years since Vegeta got the Ultra Ego form and still nothing. Can I just hop in right from where the Super anime ended and start reading?
>>723004070>Can I just hop in right from where the Super anime ended and start reading?Yep>Dragon Ball MangaDragon Ball Kanzenban v01-34, Neko Majin v01 (Raw Scans) (Japanese) - 34 volumeshttps://nyaa.si/view/1933107Dragon Ball Super v01-23,101-104 (2017-2025) (Digital) (LuCaZ)https://nyaa.si/view/1965793>Dragon Ball AnimeDragon Ball - COMPLETE (001-153) - Color Corrected Dragon Box [480p][x264]https://nyaa.si/view/1691912Dragon Ball Z (Not Color Corrected)https://nyaa.si/view/1331089Dragon Ball Z Specials (Bardock and History of Trunks)https://nyaa.si/view/1924144Dragon Ball Z Movieshttps://nyaa.si/view/1885437Dragon Ball Z Kaihttps://nyaa.si/view/2006263>Dragon Ball SuperDragon Ball Z Battle of Godshttps://nyaa.si/view/1420876Dragon Ball Z Resurrection Fhttps://nyaa.si/view/1422758Dragon Ball Super (001-131)https://nyaa.si/view/1493140Dragon Ball Super Brolyhttps://nyaa.si/view/1954784Dragon Ball Super Super Herohttps://nyaa.si/view/1905937>DAIMADragon Ball DAIMAhttps://nyaa.si/view/2005548>Seed of Mighthttps://xcancel.com/seedofmight
>>723004070>It’s been 4 fucking years since Vegeta got the Ultra Ego formALREADY?
>Another Goku
>>723000459Pikkon is a top 3 most wanted for me. He would have been cool as fuck in DBFZ
Iyoku states that the faces of Goku and Gomah appearing on the final screen of Dragon Ball DAIMA are drawn by Akira Toriyama!
>>722996986Fanfiction and the only reason people like this is because they grew up with Supee
>>723003917>I want deviant art shitGood to know.
Why are Dragon Ball fans so hypocritical?>Orange Piccolo>Ugh bro I hate how Piccolo was forced to lower his pride to attain a new transformation through a cheap way. It's so stupid and I hate it. Garbage.>Majin Vegeta>OMG I LOVE HOW VEGETA WAS FORCED TO LOWER HIS PRIDE TO ATTAIN A BEW TRANSFORMATION THROUGH A CHEAP WAY! IT'S SO PEAK! I LOVE IT! FUCK YEAH!
>>723005634>Why are Dragon Ball fans so hypocritical?Only Bejita Stans are.Nothing wrong with Orange Piccolo.
>>723004182What a stupid fucking form. People honest to God got hyped for what is probably the worst form ever introduced in the franchise >HAHA, EACH TIME I GET HURT, I GET STRONGER! NOW I CAN'T JOB ANYMORE!>OH NO, I GOT HURT! NOW I'M JOBBING Ultra Ego is the definition of a form that exists only to hype up sales of that shitty manga and nothing more. Same with True Ultra Instinct and Black Freeza. All shallow forms that do nothing but give Twitter users a reason to "GET HYPED LET'S GOOOOOO!"
>>722997671GODulk.
Hilarious a year after Sparking Zero released and how they tried and failed to push that game to be the competitive Dragonball game they're back to support DBFZ instead
>>722992503Why the fuck would anyone play this ugly ass version when SS4 GT is already in. Companies / Devs are absolutely retarded.
>>722992503Why are they pushing Daima harder than they've ever pushed anythi,g Dragon Ball before? Battle of the Gods and later Super didn't get this much shilling and that was DB's return. Who's the fuck at Bandai that's in love with Daima so badly and why has nobody hit him with a brick yet?
>>723006059The fact that they ever tried to push Sparking Zero as competitive in the first place is already the funniest shit imaginable.
>>723005787Goku jobbed instantly to Granolah while Ultra Ego pushed him to suicide. The form is more effective than people keep memeing it to be.
>>723006272>when SS4 GT is already inanon...
The BEAST.
>>723006398Because Daima was the last show with Toriyama Involvement™Nothing they make from this point on will get the free goodwill from the retarded fans who think it's tabu to think anything Toriyama worked on was bad
>>723006398Muh Toriyama
>>723006767such a shitty looking form
The LEAST
>>722992503When's Orange Piccolo
Gokus (6):>Base Goku>SS Goku>SSB Goku>UI Goku>GT Kid Goku>Daima SS4 GokuFemales (5):>Android 18>Android 21>Android 21 (Lab Coat)>Videl>KeflaDefend this.
>>723006656Ah yes wow so effective, pushed the NOT MAIN ANTAGONIST into a suicide that didn't happen while doing fuck all against GasGreat form
>>723006953caulifla is just garbage
Daima killed the IP. Dragon Ball is over.
>>723007048No excuses.
>>723001058Iyoku suggested cool shit Toriyama just executed it poorly (except for Kale and DBS Broly)
>Still no Mr. SatanCOME ON
>GODmics vs GODnga>capeCHADS vs ShonenGODS>Tokon vs FighterZGood luck.
>>723007180boys don't want to play with girl dollshow hard is that to understand?its always been like that and will always be like that
>>723001058>Future TrunksRuined him.>Kale (Female Broly)Ok, but maybe irrelevant since Broly himself became canon.>BrolyTarzan, but Saiyan.>Super HeroOk movien>Daima (GT 30th Anniversary)Bad.
Daima is ass and I'm glad Torishima spat on it
>>723006398They don't have much other choice. Dragon Ball is in a major content drought right now. The only other source they have for characters is DBS's manga, but they would have to appear in an anime first, which is a whole other can of worms.Unfortunately Daima's pool of characters is bad unless you really want to play as Clown Jiren. Shilling Daima won't work forever.
I just wanna point out how fucking hilarious this thread for a DLC not even out until next year for a over half a decade old game has gotten more posts than all /v/ 2xko threads combined.truly the savior of fighting games
>>722993754>One Piece FightersI'd like that, but I feel like it falls into the opposite issue of there being TOO many characters that the base roster would feel barebones and we'd need at least a couple DLC waves before things start being fleshed out:>10 Straw Hats minimum>Obvious fan favorites like Law, Ace, Sabo, Shanks>The 7 Warlords>The Admirals (not even mentioning other Marines like Garp, Koby and Smoker)>The Yonkou + affiliates people would want to play as, like Katakuri, Marco, and Yamato>The Supernovas And that leaving out a whole bunch of other characters who should also be there or would make for unique fighters, like Lucci or Perona respectively. It would be on it's 6th or 7th season pass by the time we start getting hype dark horse picks like Rocks or the Gorosei.
>>723007496Dragon Ball has been goat since 1986
>>723007496Nobody gives a shit about RiotSLOP. Only Tokon and now FighterZ matter.
How will Toyotaro inevitably continue Super?
We need a Dragon Ball Turn Based JRPG
>DragonSPICS got an ArcSystem game>now capeSHITTERS tooNot fair, One Piece is more popular than both.
>>722993720He's REALLY returning to monke
>>723007602>>723007683
>>723007332Why are you geh?
>>723007763Pretty sure the obvious plan was to continue with the Black Frieza shitProbably add some other universes characters and then have Frieza wanting to overthrow the Gods That or just have eternal filler arcs adding a bunch of new characters or reuse old non-canon characters
Cooler Corps soon
>>723007810Keep crying BITCH!!
>no super buu >no omega shenron >no mr satan as a joke characterThey've wasted the last chance to yet another Goku clone...
We are BACK.
>>723008504>also no playable champaWhat a weird timeline we're living.
>>723008504>no mr satan as a joke characterThis, you put in Videl but not the champ? Absolutely soulless decision
>>723008504Sparking Zero is thataway
>>722993720Bro turned on DK mode.
>>723000598Former player here.>Goku (Base)>Vegeta (SSJ)>Yamcha
>>723006907I still never going to watch KnY anyway. I always thought it's an overrated series carried by the animation.
>>722993720>that right oneImagine the sex with Chi-Chi.
>>723008504Didn't they give his copy ability gimmick to the booby scientist?
>>722993720His figures are bigger than your dick.
Where's HanBEAST?
>>723000598FriezaGotenksAndroid 16
>>722992503>Still no crossplayuselessn
>>722999328>Cast has been flanderized to the point of not having distinct personalities >Character designs are lazy and ugly >Wants to be a comedy show but it’s not funny >The “adventure” aspect is boring and there isn’t any actual exploration >Gomah is a joke villain
>>723004048>just more apparent nowlmao Even when it was happening it was incredibly divisive
Where's the BEAST?
>>722992503Guess they had to give Xenoverse 2 a break from extra DLC way after release
>>723002904niggayama did him dirty and almost every other likable character
what kind of future dragon ball game do you want to see?
>>722992503>daimashitNot buying it
>>723002904>How did he stay so weak after all this time?There's no proof he's that much weaker than Yamcha or Tenshinhan, especially if you look at the few feats he does have in Super (or even Heroes). And if you look at the Moro arc in the DBS manga, Chaozu was taking the same amount of damage from Bikkura Quoitur and Zauyogi as Tenshinhan and Yamcha were. Hence, his durability is at least comparable to theirs.
>beast wasn't good enough >heroes slop wasn't good enough >no other super slop was good enough >raditz wasn't good enough >bojack wasn't good enough>turles wasn't good enough >gero wasn't good enough>king piccolo wasn't good enough >tapion wasn't good enough >hercule wasn't good enough >super buu wasn't good enough None of them were good enough to revive the game, but our MONKEY GODKU CHADKU was. KNEEL.
Why on Earth wouldn't they just make a fighterz 2? The game is almost a decade old.
>>723010943because this is much easier and cheaper
>>722995676It doesn't matter. It is still part of the same era. Just like how GT is still part of the DBZ era. Unless something extremely drastic happens to the franchise that makes it feel like a completely different thing, just like what Super did to DBZ, it will remain the Super era.
>>722999830Way more moveset potential than Videl just based on that image alone, kek.
>>723010943There's hardly any DB characters left to warrant a FighterZ 2. I guess there's Raditz, Super 17, and Omega Shenron but no one's really begging to play as those guys, even so they might as well just be DLC, a new game just for three guys?
>>722992503Only one character or are we getting a new season?
>>723010694I want Tao in Fighterz. I would remove every Super character in the roster just for him.
>>723011565Just one. I don't think they want to commit to another season.
>>723004070No, read it from the beginning, there are a lot of differences between the manga and the non-canon shitnime.
>>723011524>Raditz, Super 17, and Omega ShenronRaditz's cheap ass can burn for all I care, not big on the other two but I'd take them both if it means no Raditz
>>722999921better for fingering Chi-Chi at night
>Torishima (Mashirito): “Hmm... Sorry, but what’s his name again, the one who wrote Dragon Ball Super?”>Others: “Toyotarou.”>Torishima: “Yeah, Toyotarou. Him, and even Shibata (the editor for Beet the Vandel Buster), they’re both bad at manga. They can’t even do the basics.”>“Things like: why do you divide a page this way, how do you guide the reader’s eye, how do you compose a scene? Editors don’t even understand those fundamentals, so they can’t check it. As long as there are drawings on the page, they think it’s fine, but it’s not real manga.”>“So it’s not that the Super manga is bad, it’s that the editors are idiots for not checking properly.”>Torishima (Mashirito): “Honestly, just like with Dragon Ball Super, they should’ve just done a Vegeta story instead. That whole Daima thing is crap. If they’re going to make an anime like that, they’d be better off making Vegeta’s story. That’s what people would actually want to see. Even overseas, like in France, it’d blow up.”Source:https://www.youtube.com/live/7DaeJ3TFMFM
>>723011817>he thinks that the manga is canon.
>>723011524The other issue is, if they do a hard sequel, they'll also be forced to support it and add a season pass to that as well, and then more season passes. The game is already batshit insane as it is, do you really want to have to worry about 60+ matchups and over a million kinds of overhead mixups?
>>722992503Why did they abandon Sparking Zero?
>>723004070>Can I just hop in right from where the Super anime ended and start reading?Yeah, none of the differences in each arc result in any real changes so there's no need to read them. In fact a lot of the changes will make you scratch your head.
>>723011605SameI need him in gekishin squadra too
>>723012083He's a miserable asshole but he was by Toriyama's side from the start, he's the only dude I trust the IP with.
>>723012083timestamp or it's bullshitin any case toriyama was excellent at panelling so if he's your frame of reference then yeah toyotarou's is shit
>>722992503Oh, look who comes crawling back after they failed with their shitty Sparking Zero game, that completely snubbed 21
>>723012697Even without Toriyama as a comparison, Toyo is still dogshit at making manga pages even after over a decade. I could probably do better and I don't even draw manga.
>>723012937No one gives a fuck about your shitty fan character lil bro.
>>723012697Timestamp: 1:07:00 of Torishima talking about ToyotarouTimestamp: 1:21:00 of Torishima talking about Daima
>>723013060Keep crying.Your shitty game ends up in the dumpster
>>723013251But enough about fighterz
>>722996986literally who
>>723013224To be more specific, Torishima said, "Daima nanka kuso anime" in Japanese. He literally called Daima shit and right in front of Iyoku and Nakatsuru's faces
Is it me or is Daima just unremarkable? Aside from getting canon SSJ4, which I have mixed feelings on, Vegeta SSJ3 and Kuu, Daima is just unmemorable to me.
>another chance to save best girl from low tierThanks Daima
>>723013532Daima isnt canon. The canon goes DB to Z to GT.
>>722992503>People really love ssj4 but we hate GT and don't want anything to do with it, maybe if we made it look a bit more primal...>"Should we give it ssj3 caveman brows to make it look a bit different from GT?>Nah just enlarge his hands, monkeys have big hands!
>>723006953it's indefensible and is part of why i haven't played this game since like 2018.
>>723013401>we are literally in a thread about a new updateabout FighterZI know your list of arguments is very limited but maybe don't act like a complete dumbass in the most obvious way.
>>723007590lets be real, nobody wants to play as shitters like usopp, chopper or moria. and the only marines people care about are the admirals and garp>>723001561based, imagine him controlling a begging bellamy
>>723013802>has to be saved by daipa slop of a literally worse transformation that existed 20 years prior OHNONONONONO, F*GHTERZSISSIES!?!?!??
>>723006953Dragon Ball has always been a sausage fest
>>723014231>thinking bellamy would be in the game at allLMAO
>>723006953Nobody cares.
>>722992503Will they ever sell a complete edition?
>>723014402Are you talking in general or just the games?
>>723013624Why is 21 so FUCKING hot bros
>>723014719>arcsys>complete editions
>>723014743In general
>>723013626>DB to Z t-Nice try, GTard. Super 17 is still the worst arc in the ENTIRE franchise btw.
>>723014917Then no. DB had plenty of girls.
>>723013532Prequel-sequel stuff is always hard to make interesting. We already know the beginning and end so who cares
>>723015061Super 17 trashes every single arc in Super. Resurrection Freeza especially is the worst.
WE GONNA BE OKAY
>>723013532>Is it me or is Daima just unremarkable?No it's not just you. Even when Daima was airing, people were noting that there were no stakes at all in the story. The new lore was either uninteresting or didn't make much sense like Glinds lacking gender even though Shin has a sister with fat tits. People liked the new SS4, but if you ask me, Daima wasted its chance of having a real identity by pandering to GT instead. The villains were just paranoid retards that kick off the plot for no reason, and Gomah's final form looks way too much like Jiren. Daima is the least memorable of all the DB series.
>>723015061I still don't get why people defend GT.I watched it a a kid and even asked my mom to transfer my old DBZ and GT VHSes to dvd when I was older and I have absolutely zero nostalgia for it.
>>723015250>Resurrection Freeza especially is the worst.And yet it not only looks better but also has a better story that makes way more sense.
>>723015320This looks terrible post something good from it. I'll wait
>>723014448no i meant bellamy would be one of his attacks or as a puppet, like in pic related. dude literally retired from piracy to make flags lol
>>723015072List them
>>723015378Oh right you want to see some "good" animation.
>>723011112extreme Pedro post
ENTER
>>723000598It's been ages since I played but I think it's something like this>Bardock>Gotenks or Krillin>Goku(Base)
>>723015474I can feel more passion here than the entirety of Super slop
>>722992503>Still no Raditz
>>723015392Bulma in several different outfitsMaiChi-chiLaunchRanfanAnninPanchySuno
>>723015479
>>723015712Yep, so much passion that they can't even animate it properly. You can't find a single scene from GT that matches the worst of super, that's how bad GT was.
>>723016038Why does Gohan just kind of go down and up in the most janky way possible?
>>723016130Because GT is the worst piece of DB media to date.
>>722993754PLEASE FOR THE LOVE OF CHRIST ARCSYS GIVE US A PROPER NARUTO 1V1 FIGHTING GAME I BEG YOU
>>723000598>Broly (Z)>Broly (S)>C-16
>>722996986Because they are autistic about doing it before an anime adaptation happens. Retards responding to you aren’t aware that the manga has been referenced for a load of shit in the games already.>Gamma Burst Flash in SZ>Black’s God Bind in SZ>Manga Infinite Zamasu in Heroes as an event>Goku’s Hakai scene in HeroesSo they clearly have no issues with using original content from the manga like moves and scenes but going past what has been adapted in the anime is a big no-no. So no Moro or Granolah.
UWAAAAAAAAAAAAAABEJITAPROOTER HURT MY HANDAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
>>723016404You WILL get another Ultimate Ninja Storm type game by CC2 and they WILL fund another furshit game with your money.
>>723016404For the sake of denying that Sasukenigger, I will gladly accept Naruto Ninjaz never existing. Besides, you thought 11 Gokus and Vegetas was bad, when the roster would look like this >Naruto (Young) >Sasuke (Young) >Naruto (One Tail - Young) >Sasuke (Curse Mark - Young) >Naruto (Early Shipp)>Sasuke (Early Shipp) >Naruto (Sage) >Sasuke (Cloak) >Naruto (Sage Form Mastered)>Sasuke (Izanami) >Naruto (End Shipp)>Sasuke (End Shipp)>Naruto (Boruto)>Sasuke (Boruto)
>>723005787That’s not what the form does. His power level continually rises while he fights faster than a Saiyan normally does. Vegeta just let the power get to his head like he always does. Beerus explains that he is always in this state so he is always growing stronger and we never see him stupidly charging into attacks like Vegeta was.
>>723016807>Goku’s Hakai scene in HeroesSpeaking of, can we talk about how it makes no fucking sense on multiple fronts?For starters Goku never saw Beerus use it in the manga, ever, and now with the granola arc Beerus is all>destruction releases energySo what the fuck did Goku do when he turned him into fucking sand?
>>723017154We see that exact variant of Hakai used several times in the same arc and Whis states Beerus tweaked his Hakai to limit its destructive effect against Vegeta. Seems like Hakai’s own energy release can be controlled by the user.
>>723016986it would just beNaruto (Young) with a 1-Tail UltimateSasuke (Young) with a Curse Mark Ultimate>Naruto (Teen) with a Sage Form Ultimate>Sasuke (Teen) with a Kirin Ultimate>Naruto (Teen) with Bijuu Mode Ultimate>Sasuke (Teen) with Amaterasu Ultimate>Naruto (Teen) with a 6 Paths Ultimate>Sasuke (Teen) with a Rinnegan Ultimate>Naruto (Boruto)>Sasuke (Boruto)so that's what, 5 each? and there are 5 Goku's in FighterZ before counting the new Daima Goku?
are they gonna make local party mode and 1v1/2v2 unstuck on the Switch version?
>>723017368Chances are Baryon Mode would get its own slot. For muh DLC profits.
>>722999328Toriyama just wanted to send a love letter to Dragon Quest. Ultimately? The ending finale completely undermined what I wanted from Dragonball: good fights. Goku screams, powers up, then there's interesting fight choreography that follows. The villain no-sells everything from chibi Goku who then becomes an adult and powers up only to...wind up performing that exact same punches and kicks that continue to get no sold. I'm basically getting myself excited to watch a man scream and then perform karate with a couple of lasers fired from his hands every now and again. When you give the audience enough time to come to that conclusion then you're not charting your action properly. It was overall decent but yeah it was just Toriyama's excuse to mess around with the Dragon Quest formula since drawing goofy stuff for that universe was essentially what he was living for it seems like.
>>723015250It's so obvious that GTpedros haven't watched their own shitty show since they were 7 years old.
>>723017490i thought it could be Naruto (Boruto)'s Level 3, but that's also possible. he could be the Mastered Ultra Instinct character. that or they could just sub Boruto Naruto out all together and give Baryon Mode the whole slot. lol
>>723000853>Vegeta actually gets stronger the more damaged he getsWhich is stupid because he's written as throwing all of his combat experience out of the window. He's just tanking hits like an absolute idiot and this "form" doesn't even land him victory. By the time Granolah is firing his big f-u laser at Gas it's only Goku who is in a powered up state. Vegeta is contributing pitifully in his base. This form was stupid and the hair should have been like Bebi Vegeta.
>>723015250don't do that. i'm a GT guy but the whole Super 17 arc is only like 7 episodes. lol
>>723017751Not impossible but I feel like they’d still do Adult Naruto mixed with Naruto from The Last. It’s also a real possibility that they would do pre-Sage Shippuden Naruto with melee Rasenshuriken and Four-Tails.
>>723001561>/v/ isn't brownoids
>>723017337>We see that exact variant of Hakai used several times in the same arc and Whis states Beerus tweaked his Hakai to limit its destructive effect against VegetaThat's the problem, to make it weaker and contain the blast from the release of energy would take more skill than not doing it so the question still stands, what did Goku do and how did he learn it when the granolah arc was the first time he saw it.
>>723017873The Last characters would just be kinda redundant when they could simply be costumes for the Boruto versions.
>>723017629I guarantee a lot of GTards are zoomers acting like hipsters. Never even seen the shit but will endlessly defend it.
Should I just wait until the winter sale to buy it? You get fuck all with the FigherZ edition but the Legendary edition still costs a shit ton.
>>722992503Who really liked Daima? Who in their right mind was like "OMG I LOVE HOW GOKU WENT UWAA UNKOOO 5 TIMES" or "OMG THEIR SHIP BROKE AGAIN HOW FUN" I sat through the whole thing wishing I was doing something better, what a miserable and boring experience.
>>723018026Yeah, I’m saying they’d have The Last moves used in Adult Naruto’s kits. And like you said Baryon Mode would probably be the equivalent to Ultra Instinct Goku DLC.
>>723018042Cringe artist. Base Goku is enough to handle these clowns.
>>723017337>Seems like Hakai’s own energy release can be controlled by the user.NTA but no, read it again. He didn't tweak it to make the released energy weaker, he tweaked it to only destroy Vegeta's armor which means that any instance should have created an explosive force.But Goku didn't. He just did something else entirely.
>>723017980Granplah wasn’t the first time he saw it. He identifies it when it’s used and says he ‘messed up’ at using it. Implying that the version without energy release is actually the unskilled variant. >inb4 failing to erase ZamasuTo clarify in the raw text Goku believed Hakai could kill immortals. He heard Beerus was going to deal with Zamasu for Trunks and goes “I knew it! You can destroy immortals!” Just for Beerus to say “What? No.” Viz just goofed it up.So in short, Goku didn’t fail Hakai by not erasing Zamasu. Because Hakai isn’t able to erase someone with Super Shenron’s immortality. Meaning when Goku says he ‘messed up’ in Granolah he’s talking about something else.
>>723017098Nice headcanon as per usual DB fan
>>722996808no stupid faggot, back then people gave a shit, there were multiple games of multiple genres not just a single game getting upgrades.
>>723018042can't white luffy literally bend reality?sorry I've only seen posts about one piece, don't really know much about it.
>>723018231Regardless of any of that it isn’t some special Hakai variant that Goku has. Granolah and Beerus both show they can do it the same way. And Goku states he ‘messed up’ when using it on Zamasu. So clearly that variant is a lesser version.
>>723017368The young versions would have Nine Tails Awakening and Sharingan installs so they'd have to be separate.
>>723018638Go read the scene where Beerus lectures Vegeta. He tells him he has no limits to his power because his mind is always on destruction. When Vegeta goes Ultra Ego he refers back to that scene. And he even states his power rises as his ‘battle soul’ burns. The only one who ever suggests Vegeta has to take damage is Granolah. Who has no context for it.
>>723018042mugetsu is still the strongest ichigo has ever been, this artist is retarded
>>723018656No.
>>723018656He can manipulate things a little, but he hasn't done any reality warping as absurd as The Mask. He has turned some clouds into goggles and a tree into a bat, nothing crazier.
>>723018227He’s done tons of artwork with similar theming. Even stuff like Greeza, Cell and Buu fighting in all their forms against eachother. It’s primarily rule of cool.
>>723018568>Granplah wasn’t the first time he saw it.It is. Prior to that he never saw Beerus use it in the manga because zlZamasu getting Hakai'd happens while Goku is in the future if I remember right. That means that Goku is reference an event that never happens when he first used the technique.>Implying that the version without energy release is actually the unskilled variant.That's not how that works. ANY form of destruction releases energy because it's not the skill doing it but the erasure of matter Goku was clearly erasing the matter that made up Zamasu but no energy was being released.In other words, it's just a plain retcon for that one arc. It's also worth noting that it only ever releases energy in an explosion in that one arc across all media every other time in the manga and even the anime it's breaking them down into sand or some kind of small particle. >He heard Beerus was going to deal with Zamasu for Trunks and goes “I knew it! You can destroy immortals!” Just for Beerus to say “What? No.” Viz just goofed it up.That's irrelevant to the point because the skill was very clearly working as it was shown before and after, just slower. Most likely because it was half black who wasn't immortal but that's an assumption.>Meaning when Goku says he ‘messed up’ in Granolah he’s talking about something else.Of course he's referring to zamasu anon. That's the only time he uses it.
>>7229993281.- Toriyama wanted to replicate OGDB but failed miserably by lacking the dark humor and violence that made it so special. 2.- Slow, boring and retcons everywhere. The demon realm was a big missed opportunity. The biggest threats where giant hamsters and giant toddlers... Goku who has a power level in the billions needed to be saved by Glorio in the stupid ship from the giant dog or whatever, it pisses me off just by remembering it.3 -The opening/ending shows them sleeping outdoors and shit as if it were this big and magical adventure, when in reality the whole thing took 2-3 days and when they finally got to reunite the whole "adventure" was practically over since they went straight to the last Tamagama or whatever the fuck and subsequently to fight Gomah.4.- Zero stakes, boring characters and jokes that fall flat... Gomah was kind of cool but ultimately just Pilaf 2.0.
>>723018709>So clearly that variant is a lesser version.It's not, Toyo just retconned it because sand doesn't make for. Interesting and bombastic fights.
>>723019560>Toriyama wanted to replicate OGDBTori didn't write it.
>>722995270>SSJ4 whitewasnt that the april fools version of SSJ5?
you really thought they wouldn't after making a native "next" gen version several years late?
>>723006953Women just make things worse, we need to remove Lab Coat and Kefla
>>722995270>somehow Goku transforms into SSJ4 BUT goes straight to SSJ5 in order to beat GomahThat's how you break the interner, fucking pussies, fucking neanderthals who are so creatively broken and afraid.
>>722999682>after Super BrolyWhat a random bar
>>722992503Well at least this version is muscular and cooler than GT SSj4.
>>723020350>discount SSJ4nah
>>722992503Canon SS4. Cool show. Better than GT by 10x. Don't @me South Americans.
>>723020278It's hardly random considering how dumb everything has been since then.
>>723019487>>723018568goku used hakkai in BoGhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pWDHF2vaZGwis the first time we see anybody using it, wasn't even reffered as such because there was no name for it, but we knew it was related to the gods. The sand stuff was later made FOR the anime when beerus was looking for the SSG and destroying random planets, and toyo implemented it that way as well.The generic purple blast was later made by, again the anime, during the ToP and is when toyo started making generic energy blasts as well.tl;dr toyo follows the logic of the moment, probably was even instructed to use it that way-
>>722994021>the graphics wouldn't improve muchFighterZ is still running on the Xrd engine, upgraded has since upgraded to the one Strive uses so it would definitely be quite a big graphical leap
>>723020512Daipa jobbed to Spongebob btw
I would have preferred Dabura
>>723020754Why did you post a video claiming Goku used it when no one used it in the video?>The sand stuff was later made FOR the anime when beerus was looking for the SSG and destroying random planets,It happens at the beginning of BoG you idiot, why even lie about that? This scene happens in the first 11 minutes of the movie several years before Super. >The generic purple blast was later made by, again the anime, during the ToP and is when toyo started making generic energy blasts as well. That's an entirely different destruction based skill it isn't relevant to this conversation and I'm pretty sure Toyo didn't have that anyway. >toyo follows the logic of the moment, That's just another way of saying he retconned it later on. >probably was even instructed to use it that way- No, he clearly wasn't we know that both the Moro and Granolah arc was almost entirely him with Tori playing clean up.
>>723020278>Moro>Granolah>Gas>niggas using the Dragon Balls to raise their power levels>Ultra Ego>Giant Red Second Form Cell>Gohan Blanco de Grande>Piccolo Naranje (Gigante)>Goku becomes a kid again (again)>Gomah>Kids Next Door parody Vegeta>Temu Super Saiyan 4
>Beast>Ultra Ego>Daima SS4>SS3 Daima VegetaNu-DB has the same problem as Nu-Pokemon in that they prefer to make the new designs/transformations more goofy and ridiculous than cool
>>723021825sir this is DB
>>722992503Doesn't give us Beast but gives us Daipa Goku yeah ok lmaoHurry up with the sequel
>>723022064They are both trying to steal the success of GOD piece.
>>723020713>>723021825It was already full retard since Revival of F.
>>723022241Goku Jr is growing inside that
>>723021510>Why did you post a video claiming Goku used it when no one used it in the video?because goku makes beerus' blast dissapear. That's very obviously hinting hakkai>you idiot, why even lie about that?why are you crying now.i remember that scene i just thought it was from the anime because it's been like a decade. Still point granted, but is not necessary to sperg over this
>>723022250Not really. There was bound to be a super saiyan god super saiyan the moment Toriyama decided on the base hair for SSG and Golden Frieza was going to happen both as a contrast to meta cooler who's silver and to give Frieza something new after god knows how long.
>>723022490is luffy pan's son?
>>722998520Lol, you should pray that Bandai doesn't tarnish JJK with a shitty fighting game at this current point in time, especially since ArcSys have their hands tied with Tokon at the moment. The shitty HxH kusoge fighter should have any anime fighter hopeful scared shitless atm.
>>723022583>because goku makes beerus' blast dissapear. That's very obviously hinting hakkaiNo, no it isn't. Where are you getting this from?Beerus questions what he even did, if it were Hakai then Beerus would have identified it as such.>Still point granted, but is not necessary to sperg over thisYou're the only one making a big deal about this acting like it wasn't a retcon in the manga
>>723017368>Amaterasu as the Ultimate>Not the Susanoo arrow he used against Danzo and KakashiWhat?
>>723022826>No, no it isn't. Where are you getting this from?my eyes, what else would it be>You're the only one making a big dealwhy, because i dare to speak? faggot>acting like it wasn't a retcon in the manganever did such thing, i'm just saying toyo is retarded and just does the thing of the moment. It is a retcon, everything is, DB is constantly retconning itself, who cares.
>>723022826Don't reply to spics
>>723023540that anon probably remembers when amaterasu was a one shot move, good times
>>722996986>non-canon promotional toilet paper
>>723023945>can't reply to anyone in a db thread
>>723023945nenaza
>>723023970daima flopped
>>723000819syn shenron seriously looks like a 2nd grader's attempt at drawing the most generic DB villain possible, he's hideous
>>723025367Omega Shenron is a bad attempt at making a cool humanoid Dragon villain.But I don't blame them, it's hard to make a humanoid Dragon design look good. Especially one based on Shenron.
>>723025659Damn this is based.
>>72300059818 (assist B)Cooler (assist A)Yamcha (assist A)I tried to make cooler assist B work but couldn't. Thinking about switching to assist C for the easier pick up.
>>722992503God, Daima fucking sucks.
>>723025367All the GT dragon designs look like assMost of them are designed as gag villains and the other are just hideousSyn looks like a bad combination of Cell and Cooler
>>722992503>New character for DBFZ>it's from DaipaThe Oozaru paw curls>>722996986because they suck and no one wants them. The only fags that want them are people with completionist mindsets>they MUST be in because they need to represent the next arc!
I was excited at first, but then I remembered Arcsys didn't really work on the last few patches, it was Bandai, plus they're busy with Marvel. So now I'm depressed.
Wait so the feud between Arc System and Bamco is over? Does that mean they're finally making more anime games?
Ok so what time is the patch actually supposed to release tomorrow?Seems kind of silly that they didn't just release it today on a fucking Saturday when people could have played it all day on their day off.
>>723004070>Becomes a god of destruction>nothing happens>Freeza becomes Beerus-level (if they don't retcon him stronger AGAIN)>nothing happensWhat's the point?
>>723026750I like how people still think that Beerus' power was retconned just because they want Goku to be stronger.
>two +400 replies Dragonball threads on the catalogCalm downThis franchise is supposed to be dead
>>723027209Its just shows how mexican this board is now
>>723026551patch is live right now
>>723027481>now
>>723028289Prove it
>>723026551right NOW
>>723028701
https://en.bandainamcoent.eu/dragon-ball/news/dragon-ball-fighterz-patch-notes-140
Monkes
So is this a one time one character update or another season?
>>723030773Only one character
>>723019612To the contrary, having it be disintegration IS interesting and unique, having it blow stuff up makes it no different then normal ki attacks
>DLC characters didn't go on saleYeah I'm good. Not paying $100 to have access to the whole roster.
please let this game never die like xv2 LOL
>>723026447No fool bandai was willing to pay arcsys for another single dlc character and arcsys accepted. Bandai is still doing the balancing and other retarded shit for the game like android 21's existence and onwards while arcsys still wants little to do with them.
>>723031545There was just a sale last week dude. They're always on sale.
>>723032668Ok? Last week this patch didn't exist you stupid cocksucker. Why the fuck would I have bought the DLC characters last fucking week?
>>723026447>>723032614I am so sick of this baseless rumour of Arcsys and Bamco supposedly being on bad terms with each other. It's completely baseless and it doesn't even make sense.
>>723032724You had all the time in the world and now you're crying like a bitch, its not my fault you were constantly poor for 7 fucking years.
Where the fuck is my husband Champa??
>>722992503Stfu Disney SWfags
>>723027481ESL mutts hand
>>722992503What the fuck is with Arcsys? Why do they keep updating games instead of releasing new ones? I'm so fucking tired of Strive. I want them to go back to Xrd mechanics
>>723034273It's a joke, autist. Calm down.
>"Tales of my death were...greatly exaggerated"There are more people playing FighterZ than Strive
>>723034501You're retarded for not understanding the concept of continuously updating or adding things to games that did well and you're downright delusional to think they will do anything Xrd like or related again after it's failure, the success of dbfz and strive, and after Xrd's own battle director not even feeling doing shit Xrd like again as seen with granblue and now tokon.
>>723032724These dlc have been dirt cheap from sales and keysites for years retard
>>723025367Yeah, but that just made him and the rest of the Shadow Dragons more fitting to me. Made out of evil energy, and all.I mainly think he could have some sort of cool gimmick with the Dragon Balls
>>723036482and I didn't want to play this game years ago you fucking faggotkill yourself
We never died.
>>723035256>You never knocked me down Strive >You never knocked me down
>>722993720>right: grandpa's hands
Buddy bandai bamco is still doing the balancing that shit's gonna drop to pre Evo update levels in record time.
>>722992503based
>>722993720dayum finner lookin ZESTY
>>723011112>GT>same thing as DBZIs this for real where some people actually parked themselves at.
>>723011521Right looks like he's wearing a diaper under the pants.
>>723006907Mugen Train such a shitty movie, how did it outperform the last 2 Naruto movies lmao.
>>723038948At least UI is cool now
>>722992503Glad both Super and GT are not canon anymore.Daima won.
>>723040737Nothing after the ending of the manga is canon
>>722992503Does this mean I can still hope for Great Saiyaman, Mighty Mask, and Mr. Satan to be added?
>>722996321>Gameplay changes?DBFZ has already had a ton of gameplay changes that have basically rendered it FighterZ 2.0 already, you fukken dumbass
>>723032724You retarded faggot. Stay mad.
>>722993720Ew
I hate tag fighters.
will this shit get me banned? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ipgQBwinFhQ
>>722992503>Super Iyoku Jín Fase MéxicoI sleep.
>>723012937bubblegum armpits
>>723045537Buff this
>>722996986Nobody gives a fuck about the FLOPnga
What are some good teammates for Majin 21? Are there any particular dlc characters I should invest in for her? Bonus points if I can run SSJ4 Gogeta
>>723027209This only shows people want more Dragon Ball, but it needs to be done right and by people who give a damn.
>>722997308I wasted that twice because i gifted a copy to sokeone
>>722992503Hopefully the balance patch unfucks the wacky shit they did like 2 years ago.I'm flabbergasted, however, I thought they stopped after Labcoat? I'm down to replay this again at some point
>>722992503Did ArcSys finally find time to fix Bamco's mess?
>>723027209I mean, even during the other dead period of the late 90s-late 2000s, it was still a merch machine
>>723048230>>723048251Dude the patch is already out and bandai are still the ones doing the balancing they just got arcsys to add a character.
>>723048230>Hopefully the balance patch unfucks the wacky shit they did like 2 years ago.Anon...
>>722992503i don't care about Daima or gameplay changes, did they fucking fix Raid Mode or is it still busted? that's literally all i've asked of them. fix Raid Mode.
>>723048587>>723048601Fuck
>>722992503Why does everything in Super and Daima look so shit?
>>723000967i hate super more than GT, dragon ball lost the sense of urgency saiyan or android saga had , but to be honest since buu saga dragon ball turned into wacky villain and wacky characters but db super is putrid garbage
>>723007810not an one piece fan but is extremely weird to me that with the lvl of popularity Op has in japan and worldwide they never got a single decent fighting game all op have is musou putrid garbage galore, but to be honest better no game that getting an abomination of a game like us Hunter x hunter fans got
>>722996986I don’t get why the Moro arc had a Vegeta redemption arc again when it’s THAT far into the series and we already had that with Buu.
>>723052139Would you prefer it if he got another new useless form instead?
>>723000967DBS is alright, Heroes makes better use of all it's content, Super Broly was tremendous, but everything after Super Broly (when Toyotaro started writing almost everything on his own) has been a steady decline in quality down to creatively bankrupt mediocrity. everything up to Super Broly was like 8/10 characters and forms trapped in a 3/10 story.DBZ > GT > Heroes > DBS & Super Broly > > Super Hero > Daimaeverything after DBZ and GT gets POWER GAPPED because of the wildly inconsistent modern art styles and quality of animation, and an utter absence of blood & gore. no, Moro doesn't count, it's a manga only arc and you know for a goddamn fact in your heart that they are not animating the gore if that arc ever gets adapted.
>>722999328Felt too short, didn’t flesh out the demon worlds that well. Tried capturing the sense of adventure og db had but failed terribly. Also did not care for children adults
>>723052394You forgot normal Dragonball.
>>722999328>we can't just solve the entire plot in 5 minutes because the air is too heavy to fly in!Oh fuck off.
>>723015261Even the big fight at the end lacks any tension as it's just "well, you powered up even more and beat the shit out of me even harder, but I have infinite HP, so whatever" repeating a few times.
>>723005634Because Majin Vegeta is just Vegeta with an M on his head and cool character development, while orange crush Piccolo (like everything else in the abortion that is Super) is fucking ugly.
>>723052561>Well shoot, now we've made it so that most of the series is just them sitting in a plane, whatever will we do to add incident?
>>723052708>Because Majin Vegeta is just Vegeta with an M on his head and cool character development, while orange crush Piccolo (like everything else in the abortion that is Super) is fucking ugly.Super Saiyan God, Super Saiyan Blue, Super Saiyan Rose, Ultra Instinct, Orange Piccolo, and Gohan Beast only exist to sell toys Toriyama's designs
>>722992503>Super's artstylelol
>>723030773and thus was born the legend of the hero of the new centuryYOU WA SHOCK
>>723034501you think that's only arcsys that does thatlook how long sfv was updated for before we got sfviand then come back with this bullshitthe only company that really goes short is snk and that's because their new games never sell
>>723052897I legit loved Revival F's designs for Vegeta and Goku, that could have been another way to distinguish Super from Z and GT and I'm mad they didn't stick with those designs after Revival F's retelling, that was the first sign they dropped the ball, never mind recapping the two movies in general.
>>72301362421 is low tier? i knew the recent patches have been wild but wtf happened
>>723052473I could never get into Dragon Ball as a kid because the tone and soundtrack were super different from DBZ, but I'm sure it's just as good and would assume it belongs in the top tiers with DBZ and GT.
>>723053917Anon, you got time. Go read and watch Dragon Ball and you'll probably look at Z and GT with different eyes, for better or worse. Whoever you like in Z that was introduced in Dragon Ball, you'll really like them there.
>>723053917>and GT
>>723053790She was overnerfed in the last patch before this one. She received huge buffs tonight
