Why are there fans who still debate the moral decisions made in under.tale yell.ow? Don't they know that some foxes are beyond redemption?
>>723019519Reminder that Staroba is the endgame and will happen after pacifist
>>723021005Staroba with her autistic deformed head fox child...
>>723021421All of Ceroba's children are a bit messed up in the head, it's a given
>>723019519a. A character with serious flaws but an earnest intention will always spark that kind of debate.b. They wanna fuck her.
what did chujin do to ntr ceroba from starlo?
Saint Ceroba
I hope the Martlet guy comes back
reminder that ceroba is fat
>>723021005I feel like that just makes Starlo lame, he had oneitis for a married chick and just waited for her husband to die instead of moving on.
writerfag taking requests
>>723025046from the way he acts in game, it does feel like he moved on, but I could see with the confidence he gained as an adult him actually moving forward where he didn't before. or maybe shacking up with dinah or mooch, just anything but dalv. its such a nothing pairing its incomprehensible. every depiction of it relies entirely on starlo being the incorrect convictionless beta people who didn't play the game think him to be
>>723019519It's because she is beyond pathetic to the point you can't help but feel bad for her
>>723025218something nice with ceroba and a nondescript human male
>>723025238I like the character development of him being satisfied with being friends.
>>723025628thats reasonable, but I dont mind something new developing thats not based on the feelings he had from youth either. it developing that way wouldn't feel like its baggage from oneitis. its good though seeing all what he did in the wild east and that he wasn't just an orbiter simping for ceroba and makes it even more agonizing when he's written that way
>>723019519it's probably because she doesn't necessarily do things out of malice, she just doesn't think things through
>>723025843The worst kind of evil. Pure incompetence mixed with profound mental retardation.
>>723026092by that logic you can say that half the population is evil
>>723019519I realize that Ceroba has never been fucked by a real man meaning she's technically still a virginMaybe there's a human male out there who can make her feel like a real woman...
>>723026092hey we're all entitled to a couple "whoopsie doodle" moments in our lives!
>>723022452Low IQ specimens
>>723026262yeah but most people don't try to develop a vaccine in their basement
>>723019519Not a real game, so I don't care.
>Martlet looks like a character from a Soviet puppet show>she has the same color scheme as FC Zenith-Saint Petersburg>she joined Royal Guard hoping it will be a sinecure, and the word "sinecure" sounds like "blue chicken" in RussianIs this a coincidence?
>>723026917care to elaborate what you mean by a "real game"?
>>723023995he saved her when she fell in a hole
>>723027001at this point its clearly ritual posting autism
>>723019519Did you anons know Roba's birthday was three days ago?
>>723027932do any other characters have an agreed upon birthday?
>>723027932of course, there was a party and everything
>>723027932and today is toby's birthday
>>723023995Have money, a car, and fifteen more years of life experience.
>>723019519Did you know there's no report option for avoiding post/comment filters anymore?
>>723028108Is it really?
>>723028446yes
>>723025793What if he found... someone new?
>>723026278Anon, Chujin was a 7ft tall ubermensch.
>>723028568I don't know who that is, I just had a bad fe-wait a second
>>723028681yeah but he's also a FUCKING NERD
>>723028818A 7ft tall giga nerd. Face it anon, Chujin was a renaissance man the likes of which you'll never be.
>>723028720What's the matter, anon?
Post some music, I need motivation to finish a req.
>>723029183https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZOipoww-H3Uyou were not specific in your request
>>723025218Chujin being obscenely strong despite being a complete nerd because he's a boss monster. Optionally, not even knowing his own strength.
>>723029183https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A52--FKUQgUStay Motivated!!!
>>723029183https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Cv9NSR-2DwMJUST DO IT
>>723029438>Motivated
>>723029026I could probably shove him in a locker
>>723029026the anon above could totally kick his ass
>>723029026
>>723028481And I thought my signature was simplistic.
>>723030104I doubt he'd fit>>723030425He's taller than Roba, who is an absolute giant of a woman herself. Chujin is big. Roba could still probably bridal carry him if she wanted to, but I think she could also bridal carry Asgore if she wanted to.
>>723028568>>723029107Eh, would
we need to talk about Reddit OC's
>>723031495or we could just not acknowledge their existence
I'm still trying to get the hang of things but I've been thinking about the bird.
>>723022452Just wanna say that Chew-gin looks punchable in this pic. Maybe Ceroba too
>>723030038No, it works, and I could use more like it.
It's a shame well have to wait god knows how long until we get more art of these fangame girls
>>723032054https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-840keiiFDE&list=RD-840keiiFDE&start_radio=1
>>>/vg/
>>723032308have you ever been to one of those /vg/ threads?
>>723032368its irrelevant because this is not a general. it does not match what generals are as described in the rules, and in in fact a thread sanctioned by the part of the rules that discuss generals in the first place.
>>723031795Are you gonna play kick the baby with Kanako?
>>723032167The wait may not be as long as you think
>>723031251Would you still if it meant having this guy as a brother?
>>723032758Why?
>>723032185This, however, doesn't work.
>>723032758I've lost any and all hope for fan projects. I'll only believe it when I see it.
>>723032707It's impolite to kick children.But just being honest, even 'nako looks retarded like her parents here, unfortunately
>>723032897I took a swing but you're really not giving me a lot to work off of here. I picked that one because its from the same time period. I fear anything else I post will just be further off the markhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=USQGatcRPuM&list=PLFmdBbF3cYpzD5W_o0Lzr6KzG2nSBHjQz&index=13
>>723029183https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W7ne_sDTWCM
>>723033039Have a little faith on our devanons
>>723031251But she wouldn't.How would you expect to court this uptight cunt?
>>723033732so my instincts were correct
>>723029183Motivation, huh?https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1Mi11pfUUrk
>>723033732And here's what she's like in-person
reddit ruined these threads
>>723033901no it was all me
>>723033732>>723033893She needs correction
Happy belated burthday to the roba.
>>723033901what did reddit do to hurt you?
>>723034223make dogshit like that, i'd image
some new art showed up for cerobas birthday
So yesterday I read the "1000 years I love you" fic thinking it was kanaclover based but it was momroba instead, I felt slightly betrayed.And for some reason Roba is mega smart in it.Anyway it is a good setting, wish we kinda saw it used more often in a similar context to the story.
I think these threads finally did me. I've developed severe case of Cerobarot. Despite knowing that all her suffering is self-inflicted.
>>723034152Happy birthday, Grimace!
>>723034654just from a glance I got the feeling it was more over the top edge so I haven't touched it yet. I need to go read more of shattered decade but seeing all this art crop up makes me want to spend time learning to draw even more.
>>723034729Having compassion for self inflicted problems is important. We all want to act like we're incapable of horrendous levels of stupidity but the dumb can come for us all.compassion for the truly stupid but lovable fox is a sign of being human.
>>723034830It isn't that edgy besides Flowey showing up as a rogue AI and fucking everything up, it was pretty wholesome until then.Unfortunately that's also when Clover and Kanako kinda take a backseat to Axis and Roba.And I was surprised at how much Mooch was relevant.
Would (you) give Ceroba a hug, after everything is said and done?
>>723034939>compassion for the truly stupid but lovable fox is a sign of being human.She's not stupid, she's just inexperienced with technical stuff and was blinded in a moment of weakness with Kanako, I've seen worse.
>>723035172no because shes divorced
>>723034941edge itself isn't bad, but you know the kind of edge I'm talking about, the absolute insanely tuned up misery porn you see in a lot of fanfictions. I just assumed based on the premise thats what I'd be in for.>>723035229I'm sorry anon, but you see if number of tails represented intelligence then well
>>723035229How do you explain her repeating the same mistake with Clover?
>>723035363a lapse in the writers judgement because thematically that should be where she recognized all of her mistakes, but it also should have been when martlet took a stand too so I forgive them all for being fairly dumb, and just imagine post barrier revival stories where they come to term with what they did
>>723029320>be me>noodle armed NEET>lost job after child murdering robot prototype malfunctiones>8 times in a row>use it anyway >malfunctions horribly and mangles a toddler>still got the SOUL tho so suck it ASSGORE>been running tests on it all night>go upstairs to refill on green tea>hear glass shatter downstairs >run back>it’s just floating there menacingly>think about wife and daughter >can’t let them find out that dad doesn’t actually have a job and is wasting stimmy checks on the secret gooncave>slapofgod.exe>impact creates a crater the floor >put it back in pickle jar>it never tries to leave again
>>723032167That fucking slime girl has been living in my head rent free this entire weekI hate the wait
>>723035274>I'm sorry anon, but you see if number of tails represented intelligence then wellNot canon, doesn't count.>>723035363>How do you explain her repeating the same mistake with Clover?Context was different, and as I argued in the previous threads, Clover was the one with the power there, and they felt they had the responsibility to do something about monsterkind's situation.Even if their friends didn't agree to let them sacrifice themself, Clover almost certainly would've just ran off towards Asgore's castle by themself the second they had the opportunity, probably with Flowey's help.
>>723035821she isn't actually a slime, she is a sea slugalso I really want to see the fire girl, naranjanon said she will get a "date" even if its a fake one like papyrus' (and I hope the other chars get them too)
>>723033732Where's that one image with Susie and it just says "mating press" next to her multiple times
>>723035923you didn't even respond to the right post! Anon do you take after ceroba by any chance?
>>723035303i feel bad for giggling at all the images people make of ceroba being a dumbass
>>723033354That's good. Just anything energizing. That other song was too relaxed.
>>723036937they're pretty funny all things said
>>723035303>the absolute insanely tuned up misery porn you see in a lot of fanfictions. I just assumed based on the premiseNah it is relatively chill on that front.Kinda wish the fic dealt a bit more on that before Data Flowey.
>>723037132true...
isn't that game pretty old now? is your dedication this powerful? will this continue for decades?
>>723037112https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HgzGwKwLmgM&list=RDHgzGwKwLmgM&start_radio=1and I don't know how you are about the ani mays but https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=scohx9trwrw&list=RDscohx9trwrw&start_radio=1gets me pumped on the way to the gym because of oendan not FMA
>>723037230it's already been 20 years
>>723037230do people still discuss their favorites from childhood from time to time? discussion will naturally decrease over time but as long as there are people still working on fan games it will add a little extra life to discussion. Plus keeping the discussion spaced out instead of doing a general makes it refreshing to come back and discuss the actual game.
>>723036764Oh. In my own defense, I am fucking tired.I also nearly just wrote the captcha in the comment field, so I'm probably much more tired than I thought I was even as I wrote this.
>>723037431I wont be retreading that whole argument from last week because its honestly no fun to do that multiple weeks in a row, but Dumbroba is funny.
>>723037534Yeah, I can understand that, I just wish so many people wouldn't treat it like it's 100% accurate.About Ceroba's intelligence I mean.
if Ceroba was a dude i feels like she would be more disliked
>>723037871didn't you see with alphys and noelle? women can get away with anything if people want to fuck them
>>723037871there's a turning point between characters like ceroba and alphys. I think if alphys was a guy she'd be liked more, but for ceroba she gets the hotness pass from some. that said regardless of that I think ceroba is a good character even if dumb
>>723037953Nah, I see a decent amount of people who dislike those two.Honestly, I dislike Noelle for being annoying more than anything.
>>723037953>>723038071Much more people would hate Noelle if she was a guy, Noel would be seen as a disgusting creep who is stalking Susie, and people would shit more on the fact that the story seems to be rewarding his freak BehaviorButsince Noelle is a girl we get Yurifags defending her shitty ship with Susie
>>723038376KANAKO STOP ONLY ONE OF YOUR CHILDREN HAS EYES
DRYanon2 here.i would just like to say that even with [zero] progress, there is no risk of me canceling the project.the fangame's on my mind more than my own personal setting, dont think i'd be able to just drop it.while this is the part where i would offer greens, scream fortress consumes me!so i will instead shill another one of my favorite games: https://corru.observer/tl;dr: web based exploration game set inside of a starving alien biocomputer. i would say more but it'd ruin the experience, so just give it a try.
>>723038786>there is no risk of me canceling the project.That wasn't on my mind before.It is now.
>>723039154All things in life are fleeting, hold on to what you can.
>>723039154oh. i figured people would be concerned since i've kinda stopped with progress for a long while.as i said there is no risk.this is like a [worm] that [worm]s its way into my mind, im hostage to the [worm] until i give it what it wants (5 payments of 10.99)
I think that the hate for reddit ocs here is pretty overblown.They’re not even most of the sub’s content. Most of it is momroba or some variant, which pisses me off more, but I guess it’s less interesting to talk about than someone’s oc.
>>723039386I get that, but it's a little bit like if you flying in an airplane somewhere and the captain came on over the speaker and said "Just want to let everyone know, we have *not* lost an engine, and we are *not* currently going down over the atlantic. Alright, enjoy the flight.". You'd have just a few questions about things, wouldn't you?
Gothlethttps://files.catbox.moe/lt9q1a.png
>>723039603you know the composition of the yellow reddit?sounds like you need to go back!
>>723039627Oh, sup Azimuth, nice stuff.
>>723039604i'd say its more like "hey this is your pilot speaking, i am currently not in the cockpit but i'll be back soon"
>>723039685NTA, but I think the biggest reason why people here know so much about the subreddit is because of how much stuff from there gets reposted here.
>>723039778oh how the turntables
It's been a while since I showed any actual progress from Naranja, so have this, I've implemented random battles and finished the first generic enemy, now I just need to finish two more, make a miniboss and add more rooms, among other things.I still hope I can have a gameplay demo ready by the end of November
>>723040359nice, I know some people are up in the air about deltarune itself, but grazing as a mechanic is such a nice addition to the systems.
>>723035274she is a widow, that's not the same as being divorced
Damn, thread dying down already?
why does he crave the sink juices>>723041472I'm learning about hands
>>723041686>I'm learning about handsWhat, for drawing?If that's the case, I'd recommend studying your own hands for a while, using photos of them for references and whatnot. Eventually you'll get good enough to draw some pretty decent hands on the fly, without even needing a reference.
>>723041917for drawing, I dont want to be that person who never bothered to learn hands and just finds reasons to hide them from the picture, wings are basically hands too right? I dont want to avoid learning hands just because I want to draw the bird. I was watching a proko video about them and felt overwhelmed real quick. I'll work on what you said though, nothing better than reality to show me what something is supposed to look like, I'm just freezing up when I try to break it down, and then making it all look wonky
>>723042230If you want, you could always try tracing photos of your hands in whatever pose you need them in. Now, tracing is a bad thing if you do it with someone else's work to try and pass it off as your own, but tracing a photo of yourself or something for the sake of handling some difficult anatomy or geometry is fine.Anyway, tracing your own hands can help you develop some experience with drawing hands properly, since eventually you'll build up a better idea of the general geometry of the hand as you do it, so I'd say it's worth doing when you're starting out.By the way, what are planning on making?
>>723032167>>723032881This is why.>>723033039I have no game for tonight, but I do have a monster girl for you.>>723029276>>723029438>>723029778>>723033579>>723033859Thank you, anonsThis is a req I got in the previous thread. To the one Wikifag out there, sorry for making you wait.
>>723034469This guy's art is pretty good, shame they're a bit of spaz.
>>723042649that's pretty dope anon
>>723042705I've made a point of not engaging with the communities around artists outside of here. I have no idea what this particular artist is like but I just mentally filter out any words they post, and avoid clicking on the comments because its never worth the misery
>>723042771Yeah, that's a good idea.
>>723033893>>723033732So what's she really like? She's portayed here as being basically the female equivelent of Shu. Super pretty and confident, rich as hell, every man wants her. So I'm thinking in reality she must be an average looking girl with an over inflated opinion of herself, who pretends to be rich and uptight in the hopes that it will make her seem like a commodity.
>>723042641just trying to learn to draw so I can contribute towards my obsession with this game productively.>>723031785this is all I can do at this point, I'm trying to grasp the basics of putting a whole person together. I see the art anons make of the characters and I want to get there one day
>>723042649that is pretty sick, I saw this character posted a few times in the last thread when it was requested, who is it?
>>723042916>So what's she really like? She is a very normal girl just a bit anti social, but since she doesn't tolerates Shu's bullshit he portrays her as a petty bitcheither that or she is just like you said, someone that larps as a rich woman of high status but in reality comes from an average family
>>723035172Sure, always wanted to hug a furry woman.
>>723041450No, its the same. She has to kill herself viking funeral style to regain her honor as a woman.
>>723043251At least this point of view is so utterly ridiculous as to not be worth arguing, thank you anon.
>>723035967From the way he described her, I think she's meant to be both.
>>723035821You could pick up a pencil (or a mouse) and draw some fanart.
>>723041686don't tell me you've never wondered what it tastes like
>>723037230Its like 2 years old. A lot of the discussion here is about the fangames currently in development like Deltarune Yellow (1 and 2), Undertale Wildfire, Undertale Naranja, and Oldentale, as well as a bunch of others.
>>723043445only after seeing that image, and only briefly while I thought about how acids and bases are different things.
>>723042279
>>723037251>and I don't know how you are about the ani mays butI spent an hour listening to traitor's requiem on repeat the other day while writing.
>>723043445>>723043531it doesn't really taste like anything, but it feels like drinking boiling water and it leaves a sour taste in your mouth>sourceI drank bleach once thinking it lemon soda, pic related is me
>>723043707
>>723038034>I think if alphys was a guy she'd be liked moreIts because of Alphyne isn't it?
>>723035172I would hug her womb with my cock if you know what I mean
>>723038071I regularly call Noelle a horrible person in /v/ threads, but I still want her and would indulge all of her fantasies if she asked. The mind control is real.
>>723043736>recluse>weeb>fuckupif alphys was a guy she'd be the perfect self-insert for nerds on the internet
>>723038594Its normal for humans their age
>>723038379I feel like Noel would still have fans, since a lot of /v/ would either be endeared by his weirdness or think "literally me"
>>723043038>just trying to learn to draw so I can contribute towards my obsession with this game productively.Ah, I've done a bit of that myself around here, nice to see new life in these threads.>this is all I can do at this point, I'm trying to grasp the basics of putting a whole person together.Hm. I actually do have some advice on this which may or may not be helpful, but I'm not too sure how I can convey it without breaking out my tablet to make an example, which I can't do right now. Basically, try and focus on the geometry of a person when you're drawing them. Literally, try assembling a person, or the rough figure of a person, out of basic 3D shapes. It's best to focus on the base, the foundations of a character before trying to add detail, since the details can always be added once you have the geometry and proportions done.I think the only example I have on hand is this, from when I first learned how to draw muzzles by drawing a sort of parallelepiped attached to a sphere, which served as the foundation for the rest of the head. Don't worry about what the rest of that image is though.Anyway, I hope that helps, but I understand if it sounds a bit obtuse.
>>723043951there would be a subset of anons who would want to fuck him too
>>723039154If its any consolation, Oldentale is making progress now. I think I may actually be able to meet that something by Halloween deadline I set
>>723043795Fair, same.
>>723044074Cool, but never say you'll have it done by a certain time unless it's *already* done, and you're just waiting to release it, you're invoking disaster otherwise.
>>723039604Someone post the comic of roba on a plane
>>723044000> Don't worry about what the rest of that image is though.got a laugh out of mebut yes I do comprehend what you're talking about, and I'll keep working on it. I was only able to get that image out after advice in the previous thread, because I've been mentally getting stuck on what those basic building blocks should be which I think is probably dumb and just holding me back from putting something on the paper. I see people say to "break things down into smaller shapes" and I keep getting stuck on "ok what is the right shape this thing is supposed to break into" which is probably the wrong way to think about it since different people seem to build this stuff differently, I'm just getting stuck in that fallacy of not starting something because I'm scared to start it "wrong". I'm working on that part though, and I appreciate the advice
>>723039627
>>723040359>the waku waku smile on encounterskek
>>723041686You can tell from her expression that she also really wants to taste it.
>>723042738Thanks. Its a shame I got the size wrong, so I can't even use it in the game.
>>723043094That's Wiki, a character from Oldentale. She's also Toriel's older sister
>>723044323>because I've been mentally getting stuck on what those basic building blocks should be which I think is probably dumb and just holding me back from putting something on the paper.That's understandable, fear of failure is a common problem for a lot of people, you'll get past it in time.As for what shapes you should use, like you said, that does vary from person to person depending on how they like to go about things, but I think I have something that might help.This image helped me get a decent grasp on the basic, simplified geometry of a person back when I first started studying art as a hobby. It's not tremendously detailed, but I think it gives a good idea of what things should be shaped in what ways, and how they exist relative to each other.It's also a drawing of a Homestuck character I found while looking for NSFW of that character, but that's besides the point.Anyway, once you're able to assemble the basic foundation of a person's form, adding the specific details of a character is pretty easy from there, so I doubt it'll be too long before you start making some really good stuff once you grasp it, you just need to get over this hurdle.If I get three-day'd for this I swear to god.
>>723044904>That's WikiWould I be mistaken in assuming her last name is some play on "-pedia"?
>>723019519WE love the 'roba here though
>>723044904>wiki>torieloh jesus fuck I just got it, I thought you were saying the anon requesting it was part of some wiki team or something.
>>723043707Ceroba...
>>723043795>teacher robathat entire class is gonna fail
>>723044981it would be absolutely stupid if you got got over that image, but I do recognize what that is, and thank you anon. I'm not letting the fear of failure stop me entirely, I'm just moving forward at a glacial pace, so once again I sincerely appreciate the advice.
>>723039603>faggots who cry about momroba all the time are from redditthat explains so much, now go back
>>723044148I set the deadline so I would actually work instead of procrastinate. If I had something finished I'd just release it with no wait.
>>723045152Along with all the male students developing severe zinc deficency and falling ill.
>>723044981>>723045196also as a side note, Hussie when he's not crashing his own career and works into the ground was a genuinely skilled artist. I dont remember where the archives of his super old stuff, but I remember hussie had some art tutorials way back, like pre problem sleuth days way back.
>>723040359>>723044074might as well talk a bit about my own progress in DRY1, there is about 3 ish rooms left to finish all the new rooms, and then after that I just need to finish the movesets for the new miniboss and add a few new moves to bearing and foxlace, then make the new events for late ch1 and the bulk of the new ch 1 rework will be finishedthen after that I gotta play test and rework the dialogue with a friend and it should be readyspeaking of, I'm thinking I still need to add an enemy or two to increase enemy variety but I am drawing some blanks here>>723044148I'm trying to get to the "deadline" but there is still a possibility I'll miss it, but if that does happen I will definitively deliver it next month
>>723025218Ceroba drinks bleach thinking it was lemon soda>>723043707>>723045078
>>723044000>Don't worry about what the rest of that image is though.Is Roba involved?
>>723045034You would. You've got to remember, she shares that maiden name with Toriel and her parents. It wouldn't really work as a pun name for all of them.
>>723045412>Is Roba involved?No.Like I said, don't worry about it.
>>723045152I don't get why roba becoming a teacher/scientist is a common headcanon
>>723045660I'm going to leave you to your secrets, but the statement still makes me laugh
>>723045285>Hussie when he's not crashing his own career and works into the ground was a genuinely skilled artist.Eh, he can still make some decent stuff nowadays, whenever he actually draws something, which is admittedly rare.Also, he seems to have turned public perception of himself around again with the Homestuck re-release and the discord and all that, people don't seem to be too angry at him anymore.
>>723045074Did you actually think an unreleased fangame from /v/ had its own wiki?
>>723045753Well, the full image is over on the funny blue site if you really wanna take a look, but be warned that the image in question was created only for my desires.
>>723044000...This is cropped porn, isn't it?
>>723045792I thought that perhaps someone was working on a wiki for the sum of them and had simply not made it live yet. >>723045762thats kind of what i'm getting at, he has the skill but over the years he does less and less with it as he did the things we know
>>723045896Yeah, obviously.Still, for the purposes of the advice I wanted to give, it was the only thing I had on hand.And hey, the other guy said it helped, so I'd say I've done my job.
>>723045890I'll not chase it. you got trips and requested it be left alone. it was just humorous seeing the reference image for learning purposes with the caveat "dont think too hard about this by the way"
>>723045910>thats kind of what i'm getting at, he has the skill but over the years he does less and less with it as he did the things we knowI mean, to be fair, he had been doing that stuff for a really long time, I don't blame him for wanting to take a back seat these days.Honestly, I imagine Hussie now is a bit like what Toby'll be like once UTDR is all wrapped up, just coasting off the money from one of the most successful things on the internet and occasionally popping up with something new every now and then.Mark my words.
>>723046085Hussie did a lot more than just "take a back seat" leading up to when he took a back seat. it's also hard to say what kind of money he has with how the kickstarter fiasco was, but surely enough to keep him going. that said I'd prefer not to get too far into that topic and get our threads associate with it. the primary goal was just pointing out that while many haven't seen what he's actually capable of, he's got genuine skill
>>723043848which is probably why toby changed it
>>723045972Alright, cool.I would've tried to grab something a bit less questionable, like something from one of the requests I did a while back, but I didn't actually do a proper sketch for any of those, I just went straight for the kill with drawing the actual characters in most of them, because I love not following my own advice for no reason.The only other images I have on hand that actually would've worked are even more questionable, so it is what it is.
I WANT ROBA TO GET A GOOD ENDING AND A HAPPY FAMILY
>>723046246Some day, anon.Patience.
>>723046239>because I love not following my own advice for no reason.I imagine you can do that more easily when you have built up a certain level of groundwork and understanding. I figure that eventually if I keep at it these underlying structures become second nature
>>723046218It was that on top of dating Undyne, if its a guy its a wish fullfilment fantasy, but if its a girl then its wholesome Yuri romance that can do no wrongToby must have discovered that yurifags have insanely low standards which is why we are getting Alphyne 2.0 in Deltarune
>>723046340>I imagine you can do that more easily when you have built up a certain level of groundwork and understanding.Yes, but it was mostly because I wanted to try and get them done faster than was actually feasible and thought trying to set up a whole sketch would only slow me down.I was wrong.>I figure that eventually if I keep at it these underlying structures become second natureYou're right, but the underlying structures are still useful to have, even if you have a good idea of how you want things to be. Just trust me on this one.
>>723046489>Just trust me on this one.I'm fine with that, I'm not against using this, I need everything I can get here. it was mostly curiosity after all that unfolded. I will probably go to sleep soon but I'm going to sit down tomorrow morning after breakfast and approach practicing with what you shared in mind
>>723046596Have a good night anon, I hope your practice goes well.
Fartlet
>>723046652many thanks anon, have this Martlet whether you want it or not.
>>723046731fentlet
>>723046239>like something from one of the requests I did a while back,which ones were those?
Would you like your bird with fat or fluff? Or both?
>>723046905Obeselet
>>723046905I don't think birds look good with fat.
>>723046848That RDR2 DRY one, and the sleeping DRY Martlet.I said last time I was gonna have the rest done before the end of the month, and that didn't pan out. I'd like to try and have the last request(s) done before the end of this month, which by all means should be possible, but I get the feeling something's gonna get in the way of that again.Currently I'm just working on a drawing for myself to cool down a bit, and that should be done in just a day or two, so theoretically™ I could get to work on wrapping this all up fairly soon.
>>723046905martlet is for fit, ceroba is for fat
>>723046809clover should have tried the fent drillhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cTYRB17btr4
Whatever happened to that guy who said he was gonna do that Shu as Mr Satan req? Did he quit? I wouldn't blame him if he did, but it'd be nice know.
>>723047321The one with Shu being punched by Val like Trunks punching Mr.Satan?Yes, that's next on my list after I'm done with my current project.Like I said, things came up.
>>723047434Are you at liberty to discuss your current project?
>>723047481I have no problem being open about it, I just sincerely doubt anyone here'll wanna hear about it.
>>723047561Is it boring, or off putting?
>>723047662Eh, could be either depending on your tastes.It's just an NSFW and very self-indulgent image of Ceroba and an anon, nothing too special.
>>723047785That sounds like something the thread would be very interested in, depending on what kind of tags you mean by self indulgent. (hell, some people here would probably like it even if it were the bad tags)
>>723047969Well, I obviously can't post it on a blue board, so you'll have to head over to the funny blue site if you really wanna see it.By "self-indulgent", I mean paws, and related things.
>>723048054Do you not know what catbox is?
>>723048116honestly with the stuff thats happened lately with the threads I wouldn't blame the anon for not even doing that.
>>723048054can you at least give me a name to search then?
I THINK UNDERTALE YELLOW SUCKSbut seriously, flowey was the highlight of the whole affair, and just because you shipfags want to fuck anthro women doesn't make them very interestinggenocide overworld laser beam was also pure comedy
>>723046905Hmmm... a little fat is alright but she should be fit and fluffy. She is a royal gaurd and a carpenter, and she does need to be able to fly. Fat makes for better cuddles though but the cost outweigh the benefits.
>>723042649>To the one Wikifag out there, sorry for making you wait.Oh, don't you worry, it was worth it. Thank you.>>723044795FUCK
>>723048468dont worry anon you'll get the martrot soon enough
>>723048468martlet, ceroba, starlo and axis are interesting characters regardless of who wants to fuck them. Flowey is fun but characterized very differently from how he is in undertale. Just because people want to fuck the other characters does not change the fact that the multi route nature of the game giving them more rounded personalities.
>>723048116>>723048278I'll admit, catbox did slip my mind, but I've seen people get obliterated even when they posted something through catbox, so I don't consider it 100% safe either.
>>723048328All my stuff on that site's been UTY related so far, you could find my stuff pretty easily just by searching through that. Hell, my Chujin image is the third most recent search result for him in general.Don't expect anything too great though, like I've said before, I'm no Sig.
>>723048574>FUCKDon't worry about it, anon. I can always make another one. Just enjoy the drawing.
>>723023995>>723021005Chujin is not terminally autistic like Starlo he’s just arrogant, crazy, and a boss monster. That’s why Chujin can pull
>>723048468Since you have a relatively unique take on UTY, what would you want out of a prospective future fangame?
>>723049221>Chujin is not terminally autisticHe literally got himself killed chasing a crazy pipe dream with no real foundation whatsoever, I'd say what he had was pretty terminal.
>>723049221>Chujin is not terminally autisticBut anon, it was terminal. That's how he died.
>>723049313The funniest part of all that is that it would have worked if he just wasn't doing it out of his basement with no safety procedures. Really. all of his projects would have worked if he had just taken his time and done things properly, instead of rushing and throwing caution to the wind.
>>723049313>>723049359Ok. Correction. Chujin is terminally retarded. Starlo is maybe terminally retarded depending on his fate (what type of 30 something year old man asks a kid if he’s still his friend)
>>723048695>Flowey is fun but characterized very differently from how he is in undertalethat is exactly what makes him the most interesting of the bunchyou do remember he "did everything, helped everyone" when fucking about with determination reloads? if anything, i'd be more interested in seeing flowey NOT fight you at the end, even as he remained just as suspicious>[OCs] are interesting characterswhat does axis have going for him exactly? some tenuous relation to the late kitsune engineer? who himself is only as relevant as ceroba's backstory? big fucking dealthe rest have too much presence, their stories sweeping up clover so that the devs can gush about their OCs, as if core/alphys wasn't the most annoying area of the originalmartlet has some fun stuff in pacifist, "fun" being realizing how tragically inept she is to do anything, which is an interesting take on a more explicitly comedic characterceroba herself is whatever, i don't care, the fact that her daughter that's barely present gets just as much fanart proves that most people don't care eitherstarlo is somehow an alphys remix, just a westaboo and not a weeaboo, the whole wild east section is annoyingly protracted
>>723049428Axis, sure, just needed to iron out the kinks (and install a proper IFF) and it would've been fine.His project to make a serum to convert other monsters into boss monsters by making a serum out of the essence of a human soul infused with the essence of a boss monster's soul?Insanity. Seriously, where did he get that idea from? Like, does the game ever actually explain how he came up with the idea exactly, or did he just pull it out of his ass? If the idea was to make a serum to make monsters stronger by extracting the essence from a human soul more straightforwardly, he would've been onto something, because that would basically just be an artificial version of Undyne's DT boost that we see in the genocide route of UT, and then it would've had some actual ground to stand on, but as it stands Chujin kinda just threw shit at the wall to see what stuck, saw none of it stick, and then vehemently denied that was the case and said it stuck anyway, and then he died and passed his doomed project along to his wife.
>>723049662Chujin isn't retarded. He's autistic. He's very smart and very capable, he just neglects things that he really shouldn't neglect.
>>723049662>what type of 30 something year old man asks a kid if he’s still his friendSomeone who exists in the UT universe, that's who.
>>723049763That's what makes it funny. He had literally no reason to think that would work, but when someone with proper funding and equipment made a soul serum, and it was injected into his prime candidate for serum testing, it did exactly what he said it would do.
>>723049727>what does axis have going for him exactly?burgeoning emotional comprehension which is my favorite plot point to explore for robots in the first placeyou've taken the most uncharitable look at the other characters, I wont try to sell you on them if you dislike them so much but I think they have a lot more going for them if you do not start with these assumptions. to arrive at "alphys remix" on starlo is honestly such a wild statement that there's no grounds to discuss on how who he is, and why he does what he does fundamentally differ from alphys as a person.
>>723049789>He's very smart and very capable, he just neglects things that he really shouldn't neglect.He's retarded in the same way Ted Kaczynski was retarded, in the sense that he's very technically intelligent and capable of seeing things and coming to conclusions that people of lesser intelligence wouldn't necessarily be able to, but chooses to go about addressing what he thinks are problems in the absolute stupidest way possible that will achieve nothing at best and actively discredit his ideas at worst.He's retarded in the way only a smart person can be.
>>723049945Anon, that's called schizophrenia. It makes you do stupid things, but its a distinct thing from retardation.This has got me wondering if Chujin was an undiagnosed schizophrenic.
why do these threads keep evading word filters, it's not like jannies give a fuck
>>723050112We're using "retardation" as a pretty generic term here, by that standard, Starlo isn't even retarded, and that was the source of this whole chain.
Martlet lets you test her puzzles and doohickeys to ensure 100% human deterrence (with hidden switches to deactivate them of course, in case you or another friendly human gets caught out.)She just got off of probation for her efforts and its nice to be proud of her and see her celebrate. Though its never all good, some of her peers have grown suspicious of her unexplained leap in skill and work ethic, but shes kept a tight beak and explained that shes just had a shift in mentality and is starting to take the underground struggle more seriously to stick it to the humans. She feels like filth, both for lying and having to humor the Royal Gaurds hatred. But its nice to know your in her corner, and her, yours.
>>723049727>starlo is somehow an alphys remoxStarlo? I'd understand (and disagree) if you mentionned Chujin, but Starlo???
>>723021005to be freak Ceroba at best ending up as a depressed alcoholic, or more likely either commits suicide or simply fall down. >>723023995Having a job, maturity, and not larping all day.>>723049428To be fair it not like Asgore is ever going to listen, and the soul would have been taken first thing. Ironically it would have been better if he had just given the soul over with Axies with him as it would have forced Asgore to do something.
>>723048695Much as I like waifuposting I agree with the other anon. Outside of a few rare moments, most of the characters aren't very engaging or funny. You're all looking at them through gooner glasses, so you don't realize that the devs messed up by not planning things ahead.Martlet is a rehash of Papyrus with half the energy. Her humor is milquetoast and less zany overall.Starlo is the most interesting conceptually, but he kind of acts like a dick early on and doesn't get enough screentime.There's already a million complaints towards Ceroba so I'm not gonna retread old ground. In short, she's stupid, but on accident, so it's frustrating.Axis is genuinely one of the only characters who's both unique and funny, but by the time you get to him it's simply too little too late.
>>723050485>Having a jobUh oh>maturityUh oh>not larping all day.UH OH , UH OH
>>723050615He didn't do any of that when he married her. That all came after his midlife crisis and protracted schizo episode.
>>723050485>To be fair it not like Asgore is ever going to listen, and the soul would have been taken first thing.NTA, but if Chujin had just publicly presented the soul to Asgore along with Axis, things could've gone way better for him. It would clearly display that He's a competent engineer in spite of his past failures, since it would show that he built a machine capable of killing a rampaging human that had gone almost entirely unopposed at that point, and that would be a pretty big deal at the time.Asgore was so impressed with Mettaton in UT that he made Alphys the royal scientist as soon as he could, and granted, Alphys lied about what Mettaton actually was, saying it was a robot with a soul, but I feel like if Asgore is willing to rapidly promote someone over something like that, he might've been willing to grant Chujin some resources or helping hands if he was able to capture a human soul with his own creation.
>>723050587>You're all looking at them through gooner glasses, so you don't realize that the devs messed up by not planning things ahead.you're simply wrong. I am very good at seperating the desire to fuck, from my opinions on things. the devs made a lot of missteps, fucked up in a lot of places but you can see a lot of the whole picture by comparing the characters across the routes. Martlet struck me as "discount papyrus" originally but adding in her behavior in genocide you get a lot more well rounded understanding of who she is as a character. I didn't care for her until that point when I started seeing the picture of the virtues vs the flaws. starlo we have something really good in how he picked up the persona to do good and got lost in it, he's a dick early on and thats as a result of him getting lost in that persona.also on ceroba, I've argued this before, but certain moments in steamworks, how she's short tempered, thinks shes fixing things when she's actually doing absolutely nothing, I think some of that stupidity is on purpose. I think they made her short sided with decision making tunnel vision, its just all the pieces around that are very messy since she got completely rewritten.so yeah the devs definitely made a mess of things, but they left enough coherent pieces that I think the characters have a lot going for even with post nut clarity
fartlet is the only character who is almost entirely carried by people wanting to fuck her and this doesn't actually matter in the first place because crying about muh coomer wojak boogeyman is gay discord shit and it always was
>>723049273i am not a regular in these threads, and never engage with the """community""" at large, so my ideas might not be very appealing to any fangame player in the first placei don't know what or why you want to borrow; it may be themes, mechanics, iconography; but act/fight-spare/kill system has probably exhausted itself since undertale said everything it wanted, which is why deltarune is barely engaging with the ideamaybe try to come up with a new system that adds more depth to generic encounters, maybe getting monsters to specific high/low hp, maybe bullet patterns that encourage standing in specific places beyond simply avoiding things>>723049938>>723050354>starloinfatuation with a certain human culture while putting on a front to stifle the feelings of inadequacy leading into a kind of weird "hostage" situation with a fallen human who eventually confronts their other friends sounds pretty "alphys" to meobviously starlo's gimmick and place in the plot are all very different, and that is why he is a remix, not a copy
>>723051327I just fundamentally think you're wrong and she's a good foil to clover in how her view of justice is individual instead of broad, and we were robbed of the ultimate realization of this when they cut the scene of her being dragged away by the royal guards out of the game.we see how her sense of right and wrong clash with everything she's told, how shes the only monster to choose to spare you and end a fight, how she struggles with the desire to see the potential value in people even to a fault leading her to wait to long in genocide. she's probably the most well fleshed out character in the game.
>>723050615Ok, please explain the last one to me? >>723050884I was sort of thinking the same, but I get the feeling that Asgore would still holding a grudge over the whole catching his son grave on fire but also be horrified at not only having to do something, but the the prospect of an robot or worse an army of robots that can defeat a human. Feel like he would do everything in his power to stop chujin.Also Asgore (and to a certain extent Chujin too) is an retard demonstrating a killer robot in the throne room and not some where safer.
>>723051498>so my ideas might not be very appealing to any fangame player in the first placeI am glad for things to not be an echo chamber, for you to express these opinons, I just do not agree with what you're saying character wise and enjoy the discussion that comes from that. I would love to continue my side of the discussion but its absolutely time to go to sleep.
>>723051628>Ok, please explain the last one to me? He pretended to have "retired" from the steamworks to maintain his image in Ceroba's eyes, I'm arguing he was just as much of a pretender as Starlo was, except Starlo at least put on his act for other people's sake, not his own.>I get the feeling that Asgore would still holding a grudge over the whole catching his son grave on fireEh, maybe. Asgore doesn't seem like the type to genuinely hold a grudge against someone unless it was for something major. He isn't even willing to go through with his plan after the death of his own children, I don't think he'd be on the warpath against Chujin for what was ostensibly an honest mistake.>the prospect of an robot or worse an army of robots that can defeat a human. Feel like he would do everything in his power to stop chujin.Asgore did still want his people to be safe and protected, and he did still want their freedom, which is why he was still trying to find a way to break the barrier and secure his people's freedom. I feel like having a robot army wouldn't be something he'd be inherently opposed to, at least if Chujin wasn't acting like a bloodthirsty warmonger and planning on reenacting the ending to AC: Nexus.In an alternate timeline where Chujin wasn't an idiot, I could see Axis variants being used as a sort of mechanical royal guard, a stalwart defense against human invaders deployed all throughout the underground.
>>723051498>so my ideas might not be very appealing to any fangame player in the first place>i don't know what or why you want to borrowNot him but I'm also working on a fangame. I like to hear these opinions from those who don't like UTY, so I can (a) avoid the same mistakes, and (b) learn what might garner the interest of someone who likes UT but isn't into fanworks. Such a perspective is valuable to have
>>723051498>maybe bullet patterns that encourage standing in specific places beyond simply avoiding thingsI did have an idea to incorporate a mana system, but instead of doing it like TP in Deltarune, where its based on grazing, mine would be based on standing still. So your mana only regenerate while you're standing still. encouraging you to not move until the very last second. Maybe I could incorporate areas of the battle box that would increase the rate you gain mana.On the subject of the mercy/fight system. I think it might be fun to keep just to use to mess with the player. Having the player get locked out of the good ending for sparing everyone would be an interesting twist I think.
>>723051498Any things you'd want from the writing side of things?
>>723050947You pointing out that Ceroba's writing is a mess is why I'm pissed off at her in the first place.She's just a nothing character. She has no wit, no charm, no humor, hell even her looks aren't much to gawk at (canonically).And depending on which part of the game you're playing it's like she was written by three different people (lol). I'm getting mixed signals that portray her one way while showing her acting completely different later on.For example, her introduction in the Wild East shows her as the calm, cool girl, who's the voice of reason and is always right. Then suddenly in the Steamworks she's a turbo-retard who can't even walk through a basic puzzle but expects you to do all the work. Also she trauma dumps her whole story to you midway like you're supposed to care.By New Home, she's a straight up villain. But then the game still expects you to care when she's all "woe is me" with her transformations while she's ironically trying to kill a child. Multiple times, I remind you.And of course, she does nothing to prevent Clover from killing himself at the end so she's just as complacent as the other two and has learned nothing.I'd love to dig into my problems with Martlet/Starlo, but this post is getting too long so you can accept what I have to say about Ceroba.
>>723052108>pretended to have "retired"oh forgot about that one>I don't think he'd be on the warpath against Chujin for what was ostensibly an honest mistake.Then why fire him, granted it could another rash decision moment.>if Chujin wasn't acting like a bloodthirsty warmongerI feel like a lot of people forgot that Chujin views were not only consider normal, but rather tame compared to what other monster wanted to do I think chujin is good there. The fact that Chujin wanted to capture the human alive and felt regret to what happen them despite how many monster they kill and how close her own daughter nearly died is down right saintly. Also Asgore seem fine with Undyne... you know that being up even more questions...>Asgore did still want his people to be safe and still want their freedomWhile true, he still just sit on his ass doing nothing and just waits until the human comes to him. He so paralyzed by fear, grief, and regent to what he promise his people "the whole genocide of humanity part which everyone also way seem to forget about" that he will do anything to put it off. And a army of robots, shit people might depand to send one out to gather the remaining souls.
>>723053232>And a army of robots, shit people might depand to send one out to gather the remaining souls.That's only if they're used offensively, and IIRC the Axis models were designed to be used defensively, so that really shouldn't be a problem.Basically, I think that if Chujin thought things through and decided to deliver the integrity soul to Asgore publicly, he could've repaired his reputation and demonstrated his competency enough to maybe ask for some funding to continue his work, and not get himself killed working in the dark.
>>723052932>Dunes RobaMeh. No flavor.>Steamworks RobaSeemingly less intelligent, and fully blinded by her husband, but it gave her more personality by...association? Chujin is more characterized than her, weirdly enough.>New Home RobaPleasant boss fight, but I didn't care for her sob story. She didn't even make it to the Lab.>Geno RobaFuck off, this is a dual between me and the sheriff.
>>723053771>She didn't even make it to the Lab.How many people misread that scene and thought she was doing it to save Kanako? I know I did. I was surprised when I only learned recently that wasn't the case.
>>723049927>but when someone with proper funding and equipment made a soul serum, and it was injected into his prime candidate for serum testing, it did exactly what he said it would do.What? That's not what happened. First, the DT serum in UT is just determination, none of the other stuff Chujin was using, second, it wasn't made for the same reasons Chujin was making his serum for, and third, it didn't actually do what he wanted to do.Assuming you're talking about Zenith Martlet, that DT syringe didn't make her a boss monster, it just made her a bit stronger than she was normally, like an artificial version of the DT boost Undyne gets when she becomes The Undying.
>>723054034>How many people misread that scene and thought she was doing it to save Kanako?Apparently lots of people. Like, a ridiculous amount of people.At least you know better now.
>>723052312>>723052571hot damn, who knew i'd be the koolest kid in klass after a single non-spergout criticismqrd on my thoughts on yellow:1. hanging out with flowey after killing bosses is better than grave silence, so even murder routes ought to focus on different characters (say hi to dagda)2. feeling like you're stuck and aren't allowed to make progress is annoying, so even if you can't make a "ignore everything and go straight to finale" route work, something like wild east should be an optional diversion and not a mandatory section3. creating big branches for WHAT things happen is not as important as creating extra flavor for HOW things happen; the latter is way too expensive and complicated to manage, while the former is merely keeping track of player's (often limited) choices; i'd be much happier if i could mock ceroba in steamworks for being outsmarted by a kid, or if i could tell starlo and martlet that they truly don't get what humans are aboutflavor also goes for something silly or interactive: how long you were solving puzzles, or how much money you spent on candy, how much damage you took in battle, etc.>>723052492>keep just to use to mess with the playerthe idea sounds fine, but the sentiment does nota gotcha, like any twist, better be very clever, otherwise the player will get frustrated with characters rather than feeling dramatic suspensebut if you can properly setup and thematically support CAN'T BE NICE TO EVERY NIGGA then players can accept heavy consequences for sparing some millions "total human death" knives sort of monster
How long and polished is the Deltarune Yellow fangame floating around gamejolt?I've been meaning to try it, but if it's going to be updated shortly afterwards it's not worth it.
>>723053232>picThat's the look of a certified groomer
>>723054327get that pedo shit outta here
>>723054327One Size Too Small (but it fits your weiner just right)
>>723054450Ask Chujin why he does the things he does
>>723054571ask whatever deranged person who wrote this
>>723054587You ever actually read the damn thing?It's clearly not sexualizing the situation at all, it describes everything like it's trying to disgust you, which it is. Not everything depicting something nasty is endorsing it.
>>723054487>>723054587Should I post it? Do you want me to post it?
>>723054034>>723054124roba not going to save kanako makes her even worse though
>>723054806Not the point, my point is what the story is actually about, and saving Kanako isn't that.Nor should it be, really. That would've been a complete non-sequitur and it would've driven the entire story further off the rails than could've possibly been salvageable.Sometimes the non-character should stay dead.
>>723055098>Sometimes the non-character should stay dead.glad that we have fanfics and even fangames trying to fix that
>>723055352Yeah, fanfics are fine, I ain't got a problem with that, the problems only start when people can't see the obvious fact that Kanako was never meant to actually have a direct presence in the story itself and only existed to build up other characters. She's a non-character, she isn't actually important.
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>>723055571Big mistake by the devs, too thirsty for roba to not see anything elseI will continue coping and you cannot stop me
>>723056149Cope all you want, that doesn't change the fact that she literally has no character and is only shipped with Clover because they're both around the same age and can't be shipped with anyone else unless you age them up.People who shipped Frisk and Monster kid back in the day had more ground to stand on, at least those characters interact with each other.
