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How actually easy is it to build a pc? Assuming it's some mid to high end shit
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>>723057479
My gpu has been lopsided for 50 years and I've given up, the fucking bracket doesn't even do its job properly. Its not badly bent or anything, it's just not perfectly level and I fucking hate it. I hate big gpus, I hate big fucking gpus, shouldn't technology be getting smaller the more advanced it is.
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If you can put Lego pieces together then it's piss easy.
There are also video games that can teach you.
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>>723057479
You can pick all the parts you want and they assemble it with warranty for what? Like 50 bucks? Im not gonna bother building my own or be bullied into it.
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some mexican or filipino dude built my PC for free
this was ages ago, idk he just seemed really excited about it and he did it pretty well
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>>723057479
>there were some pieces that came with my case and gpu
>ended up not using them during the first time build
>just have actual pieces collecting dust in my drawer, don't know how important they are
I hope they were just for cable management because everything has been working fine so far
pic rel is me side eyeing the drawer whenever my pc started to make weird noises
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Everything is difficult if you are a retard.
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>>723057479
Every mobo comes with a booklet on where everything is plugged in.
You just have to read.
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>Cable Management
Fuck off with this newfag shit
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>>723057479
Imagine playing games on a thing designed for work kek
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>>723057479
>How actually easy is it to build a pc?
EVERYTHING is keyed to only fit one way
cable management doesn't exist anymore, there's only 1 or 2 gpu power cables to "manage" anymore.
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>>723057479
It's kinda easy but there are various small things you can fuck up. You probably won't fuck them up, unless of course you're retarded. You're not retarded, right?
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>>723057479
Depends on parts. First time I ordered a cooler with retarded mounting system that didn't fit well. The biggest problem is cable routing and the start button plug it which requires reading the documentation of the motherboard. Everything else is just putting in connectors
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>>723057747
Imagine using a corporate slop machine designed to entertain clinically retarded american children.
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>>723057479
It's very easy. Maybe it gets a bit more difficult if you add open loop watercooling and all that other ricer shit. Personally never bothered with cable management. At most I pull the atx cable through the back since it's so fuckhuge.
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>>723057479
>decided to build a pc
>very scared so tried to overprepare myself
>spent weeks researching
>read up countless reviews and watched tons of vids
>learned a bunch of terminology and shit
>build the pc overnight following guides and using everything I've learnt
>immediately lose all knowledge of how the pc works and whatever else over a few days
>just have this flawless machine that I put together while no longer knowing how a pc works
>now too scared to take it apart when it needs cleaning or tweaks
Anyone else or am I just a retard with a memory leak
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>>723057479
All the parts come with instruction manuals that have plenty of pictures. You'd have to be phenomenally retarded to fuck it up. Just don't be intimidated and take your time reading the instructions and thinking about it before you do anything.
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what ever happened to the old configuration? back then you only needed an elastic band for all the wires in a bundle.
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>>723057479
Its more daunting than it is difficult
You have spent a bunch of money of complex and somewhat fragile parts and are scared to fuck it up.
The lego analogy is an exaggeration used by people that either have never built a machine (like when people that live on pizza critique food) or people that have built too many and are downplaying it.
With all that said, its about being meticulous and careful. Watch a video of soembody building a pc on the same case you bought and then watch a video of somebody building a pc with the same motherboard you bought.
Understand what you are doing, before you start you now know where the cables are supposed to go and why, you have an idea about the order of setting the shit up.
The bigger pieces have only one place and one position to go into, cpu, cooler, ram, nvme, extra hard drives, gpu they are all easy to sit on the motherboard, they only problem is then setting their cables from the psu, thats where those videos you watched come in, understand what cable goes in each piece.
Ppl overstate how easy it is, probably just to feel superior to those that are scared of trying but its not really hard either, its just daunting.
Just be careful and meticulous.
Barring that you could purchase the pieces and contact a store on your area to set it up for you, near me there is a store that builds your pieces and installs windows for 90€. For a lot of people that has is worth, i mean its 90€ to save you a couple hours of work.
I believe in you anon
If you have any specific question i would be so happy to help you.
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>>723057520
My 5070 ti included a GPU stand. You could buy one separately next time you upgrade if it's not included by default.

>>723057479
People underestimate the difficulty. Chances are if you are assembling your own PC you are also picking out the parts. Knowing exactly what to pick and why is going to take quite a bit of research and knowhow.
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>>723057479
You just need to read the motherboard manual, watch one or two yt tutorials and have a brain.
If you are not sure about something, maybe you can try asking chatgpt, but be sure to the specify the exacts models and specs of your hardware. Still should be a last resort.
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>>723057520
lots of people get a standoff because of a sagging gpu
they are like 2 dollars and u just put it under the gpu.
alternatively you can just find a piece of plastic or wood to lodge under it
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>>723057479
Buy a prebuild or ask someone to assembly it for you then tinker your way out disassembling/reassembling if you're too much of a pussy to build one like me
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It's completely trivial. Only a retard would have an issue, I built my first PC by reading the motherboard manual.
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>>723057614
Where?
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>>723057479
It's never been easier. The fact that zoomies don't even understand file systems nonetheless assembling a computer with less connections than just installing a hard drive back in the day is hilarious to me.
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>>723058056
why the heck did you buy a prebuilt? you could've saved money, even made some extra cash by just going to your local mcdonalds bathroom and charging random guys since you wanted to get fucked in the ass so much
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>>723058015
It's not as easy as legos, but it's certainly easier than it was 30 years ago, there are a lot more resources, guides and instructions to draw on these days, all at the tip of your fingers, and manufacturers have made their manuals pretty simple.
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>>723057479
building a pc is what you make of it
if you do something extremely basic, it's easy
if you have a complicated and nonstardard setup, it's hard

i will say that pcpartpicker made it orders of magnitude easier. that site checks the compatibility for everything for you
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The hardest parts are
1. Installing the CPU, not because it’s hard but because if you fuck up you can damage it severely, can be stressful the first time because the clamp makes a loud noise
2. Installing the CPU cooler, again, not because it’s hard but because depending on the dimensions of the case, cooler, and layout of the MOBO it can be annoying
3. Installing RAM for the first time, you really have to shove it in there, don’t be mellow
4. Front panel connectors because they are small so they can be annoying to install

Aside from that just read the instruction manuals, you will often find yourself needing to use a lot of force to make sure everything is connected
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>>723058178
>why the heck did you buy a prebuilt?
Because they are cheaper on sale
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The difficult part of PC building is knowing that all parts are fragile as fuck. Dropping the cpu a few centimeters to the ground is enough to damage a single pin ruining the entire thing. I got big ass hands so squeezing a pin into the motherboard can be difficult if I put them in the wrong order. Then you have situations where you do everything perfectly but the computer won't post so you have to diagnosis every single part only to find out the whole motherboard was faulty out of the box.
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>>723057479
If you do your research and choose sensible components, and are capable of following the straightforward instructions that come with the mobo, it's easy.
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>>723058230
so you'd pay less to eat shit and get robbed, instead of paying more to eat a guaranteed 5 star meal : [
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>>723057479
Assembling everything is easy. The most mistakes are done before assembly. There are quite a few traps you can run into when choosing parts.
Having too low wattage.
Choosing a cpu/moBo combination with incompatible cpu socket types. Coolers also can care about socket types.
Not realizing your huge ass graphics card does not fit into the case.
The cables you have are too short or you don't have enough cables of a specific type.
Etc, etc.
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>>723058198
>Nonstandard setup
N-slur (soft A) what's nonstandard nowadays? You put the M2 drives in, you put the GPU in, you put the 2 sticks of ram in (because 4 sticks is now unstable, thanks DDR5) then it's just the case USB connections and PSU connections in and you're done. It's a joke nowadays.
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>but it's certainly easier than it was 30 years ago
absolutely, nobody would argue that
the amount of cables you have to set up alone, the times of having to set up sata after sata
Im just against that sentiment of "its so easy its for retards" because you can fuck up and nobody wants to fuck up with a 300-800€ piece so i always recommend caution
I rather anon watch a couple extra videos that remind him to remove the cooler sticker and how to properly sit his ram sticks.
The information is out there but if people convince you is "just legos" thats disingenuous
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>>723058346
drives, cooling, drive expanders, multiple cpus + coolers if you're doing a proper server build
most of the nonstandard stuff happens in the part picking phase though i suppose
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>>723057479
it was nervewracking at first until i got the experience to know how to unseat/reseat certain connectors, learning how much force to use for ram, etc
it was infuriating at the same time because i had multiple parts fail on the first build so i didnt know if i had personally fucked stuff up and had no way to diagnose what was broken with no 2nd rig until i narrowed them down and then took a chance on buying new, better ones. this worked but in the end i spent a lot of the 'savings'
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>>723057479
use a website that calculates if your parts are compatible and if your power supply is enough for what you have and possible upgrades you may make later. watch some youtube videos for tips. Read about it for 30 mins to an hour or more then play around with a building calculator on a website or something.

Its not that hard but it will take time to figure it out the first time.
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you dont actually need cable management in a full size case. as long as the wires aren't touching any fans it doesn't matter
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Motherboards are actually hardy as fuck. You don't have to be gentle with the connectors at all. I even spilled a drink on my old mobo and it worked for years
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Just remembered my CD tray sockets dont match my new motherboard and i have been unable to use CDs for the past 15 years on my PC because i never bothered buying a new tray.
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>>723057479
Building a PC is not that hard. Troubleshooting shit is the real test.
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>turn on computer
>usb devices keep disconnecting
>turn it off and on again
>problem goes away
Computers are so easy you never need to know how any of it works to assemble and use one.
If children can invent a computer, so can you.
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how do consolechads keep winning?
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>spend hours first time building pic
>boot it up
>display port no signal
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>>723057479
im seriously considering advertising pc building for £50 a pc. it seems we are surrounded by retards. im not technology literate but i built my own pc and have had an easy time troubleshooting. would anons pay £50 to have someone put it all together?
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NTA but i mentioned in a pcbg thread a while ago that i had found an actually decent priced pre built
Copying the build on pcpartpicker it came out to about 80€ more expensive on the prebuilt. Paying only 80€ to have it built, tested, windows installed seemed ok. In Austria if you need it to have it built by a random store they gonna ask for 150 or so.
The downside was not being able to pick up the parts, they were MSI brand prebuilts so everything was MSI.
So i know it wasnt for me, but i wouldn't feel bad recommending it to a friend that doesn't want to built his own
picrel is the copy on pcppartpicker from german amazon, you can probably save another 20 or 30 by picking a couple pieces on other stores, but that same machine prebuilt and straight from MSI was 2600.
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>>723057479
It's time consuming and not worth it. I'd rather spend 50 - 100$ extra to have someone build it for me. Saves you the headache.

t. struggled like a retard replacing a bunch of parts and later building a new PC
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>>723058530
my playstation 4 never has this issue
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>>723058530
That's why you get a mobo with a segmented display
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>>723058494
By being 35+ or under 14.
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>>723057614
Nigga that's like going to jiffy lube for an oil change. You KNOW you can't trust those niggas. Do it yourself.
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>>723058561
If you like doing it and think it will be easy money, yeah go for it. £50 sounds reasonable.
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Shit this was me.
>first build got to post
>very happy so I immediately start a big game once the pc is ready
>2 frames per second
>"nononnono everything was fine nonono"
>week long rmas running through my mind, am panicking
>several minutes of googling and trying random games but it's still 1 frame per second shittery
>start taking off and replugging monitor and pc power cables desperately
>realised I had my display port plugged into the motherboard and not the gpu
never felt that retarded and relieved in a long time, in my defence it was the tail end of 2 sleepless nightshifts at security, trying to build the thing with whatever time i had home
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>>723058040
mine was the incorrect length, either the extender bit was too short or with the attached part was too long to fit in. i had to use a medicine bottle to stand the stand on lol that was the palit gamerock 5070ti and corsair 4000d oldskool case
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>>723058530
Don't build a PC if you cant handle the most basic troubleshooting in the world.
>check for error light if your mobo has one
>make sure your dumb ass didnt plug into the mobo instead of GPU
>check PSU power switch
>check if the GPU is seated properly
>check GPU power cable
>check mobo PSU cable
Thats just off the top of my head and all of them are things you could find in seconds with a google search.
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>>723058561
a lot of people would
the problem is what does a reputable store near you charge?
if whatever the equivalent of a media markt type store is in the uk charges 70 then why would anybody pay 50 to a greasy fat virgin retard
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>>723058530
>display port no signal
Did you check to see if it was plugged in?
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>>723058569
thats not a prebuilt, thats a custom pc. prebuilts have the parts already in. they usually have the h motherboards and slowest ram and storage
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I built my PC years ago and haven't touched it since.
I'm constantly fear for the day it breaks because I completely forgot everything I learned about putting it together.
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fucked up my very first build when I was young, short-circuited to whole damn thing
it's pretty easy all things considered though, just a hassle
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>>723058736
Just learn again, you know you've done it before
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>>723058689
>why would anyone pay less
I get what you're saying, but there's always people out there looking for a better deal.
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>>723058689
there are no reputable stores near me. my city has two pc shops 3 miles away from me and none on between. id be the one that would come to your home and build it instead of you bringing the parts to me. and im not fat, greasy, or a virgin. however i did move back in with me mam a few years back
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>>723057479
It's easy. I avoided it for a long time because I was worried about goofing it up; I didn't build my first PC until I was 30. Turns out, I was paranoid for nothing.
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>>723058614
yea id just run round wih me toolkit and build the pc. mine took an hour and half with multiple cig and coffee breaks, so would get it done in about an hour tops if no messing about.
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>>723058054
I just built a pillar out of old lego.
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>>723058847
You're overcoming learned helplessness, good on you man
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>>723058561
I was thinking about this too, then I started thinking that at the end of the day im only human and a PC as simple it can be, still is an assortment of expensive gizmos, if someone pays me to put their shit together and theres a freak accident or whatever that somehow fries their gpu, I don't want to ever deal with that bullshit
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just get a non-standard case bro
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>>723057479
i gave up and just bought a gaming laptop, it can play most modern games and the only real issue is that it heats up like an oven, though i fixed that by buying some special external fans made for laptops.
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>>723058847
based
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>>723058801
>however i did move back in with me mam a few years back
nothing wrong with that
>there are no reputable stores near me. my city has two pc shops 3 miles away from me and none on between. id be the one that would come to your home and build it instead of you bringing the parts to me. and im not fat, greasy, or a virgin
Then you should charge more than 50 obviously
and not being that experienced (on your own words) might be a problem, having to watch a vid on youtube on your phone during installation for a part you aren't 100% sure of
That said, im sure there are people that would pay for that.
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>>723058930
>fan intakes are blocked by panelling
What did they mean by this?
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>>723058903
you cant fry a gpu by plugging it in incorrectly, it can happen if you spill water on it. plus if i were going down that route id get some sort of insurance or have them rma the card. building a pc is easy and the only issue would be physically breaking something rather than frying something. however you brought tomlight scamming cunts with dead 5090s getting me to build it and saying i broke it.
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>>723057645
>case
Usually it's brackets and screws for additional drives and other optional stuff. If everything you put in your PC is properly secured you didn't miss anything. Maybe you forgot a motherboard post (not a big deal). Sometimes you also get a buzzer for BIOS noises, which is mostly useless with modern motherboards.
>GPU
Hard to say without the model but some graphics cards come with cable adapters and support brackets. These support brackets are usually ass and there are far better options if you card ends up sagging.
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You know that by prebuilt people mean anything that comes.... prebuilt
And thats the whole point of my post the fact that its the best one of those i have ever seen, usually you see such shit configs in those pages with bottom of the barrel drives and ram and then a 500€ mark up
This one was... ok
I just went and checked the page and its now 50€ more expensive so about 130€ markup from german amazon. It was 2600 on the dot a couple days ago.
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>>723057936
>water cooling
will never get why its everywhere, on almost all the prebuilts I see, all my mates decided to go for it when they were building their shit, its constantly advertised towards first time owners and entry level pc gamers

I don't understand how water cooling even broke into normiesphere, you have very affordable and good fans like peerless assassin and others, and they're just generally safer and better than aios in every way, along with being easier to set up, why does anyone get water shit?
Are AIOs like the gaming laptops of PC building? first timers get tricked into using water coolers for their first time? because I can't see any other informed person making that decision unless they're into overclocking or something
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Also if the PC doesn’t boot up properly for the first time don’t panic. 99% of the time it will be because of something stupid
>Loose cable, or forgot to plug something in
>GPU/RAM is loose or wasn’t slotted properly
>Forgot to turn PSU on
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>>723058984
yea ive rebuilt my own 4 times now, new mobos and gpu’s and one deep clean, and they are all the same. i just see so many people commenting that they have issues that are pretty basic errors. but that anon brought up a good point that made me rethink my path forward.
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>>723059081
>will never get why its everywhere
Right now is about as easy to set up as an air cooler and it looks pretty.
I personally love the aesthetic of a big chunky block aircooler tho
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>>723059081
>will never get why its everywhere
It's mandatory in hot climates. If you live somewhere cold, of course a normal sink is gonna work for you because you're already dealing with low ambient temperatures. Me? I live in the fucking subtropics with no AC. Yes I need a fucking water cooler.
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I've been using the same PSU for like 15 years
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>>723059081
It really is just because its the hip thing to do.
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>>723059014
>blocked
There are massive open gaps for air to go in. Probably lower impedance than mesh+filter.
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>>723057479
>Want to upgrade my GPU
>But i would have to upgrade my PSU first
>Dont want to deal with all those fucking cables again
>Decide not to upgrade
I should've futureproofed my PSU
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>>723058530
>build PC
>lose a tiny fucking screw and spend more time to find it than putting shit together
>doesn't boot up
>almost lose my mind
>accidentally unplugged the cable that connects the power button to the motherboard
>>723058673
>why don't you use the computer to fix the computer?
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>>723059080
ok, sorry i was being pedantic. i very badly want a 9800x3d or 7800x3d to go with my 5070ti that’s currently running with a 10700 kek. prob gomwith 7800 cause im poor, plus i want to buy a sim racing cockpit and theybare massively overpriced.
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>>723059202
thats what i did when i bought my rog strix gold 850w bad boy with 10 year warranty
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If you pay for shipping and float me a Benjamin, I'll build it for ya. I'll even use my nice pretty colorful cable ties and get everything nice and tidy. Except the video card. Don't ship me that. You do that part on your own. I'll indicate the cables to plug in. GPUs are heavy and I don't want it flopping around cracking your mobo.
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>>723057584
i remember playing this game a few years ago before building my first PC and it was kinda shit. Tons of shit it doesn't teach you like upgrading bios, installing gpu drivers, motherboard drivers, cable management, nvme, proper ram placement, swapping CPU brackets, wattage, proper airflow, etc. (although i haven't played it in like 5 years)
i guess maybe it would be pretty useful if you had the exact same licensed parts so you knew where to plug in every component to the motherboard or something, but otherwise you'll have to read through motherboard manual and try and decipher all that shit.

At a certain point, it's just "click the highlighted button" simulator
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>>723059239
>why don't you use the computer to fix the computer?
But none of that required a computer.
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>>723058561
Ever thought about bringing this up on a scientific/economic forum? Seems like you're onto something with this idea of getting money for doing things you can do that others can't or don't want to do.
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>>723059239
>what is any phone made in the last 18 years
>what is a smart tv
>what is a wii internet browser
>what is a 3ds internet browser
>what is a free laptop from an e-waste facility
You shouldnt be touching a PC, let alone building one, smooth-brain.
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>>723059440
I'm pretty sure doing a google search requires one of those fancy machines
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>>723059367
Okay I lied. If you pay for shipping I'll do it for free. I fucking love building stuff and putting it together. Have an organizer for a board game that came in the form of a bunch of sheets and puzzle pieces? Send it to me and I'll build it. I fucking love that shit. I'll even sand down sharp edges and spurs, it's all part of the process and I adore it.
But I am NOT finishing it. As in staining it and applying a finish coat. That shit is a pain in the ass.
Okay I'll stain it at least.
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>>723059539
obviously not because /v/ is infested by consolegroids
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>>723059493
no, its not something that requires bringing up to other people, its a service for retards that can’t understand how to do it themselves. did you really think I was the first to come up with this idea?
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>>723059539
Oh. Use your phone if its something little while building it. Everything should be in the instructions though.
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The first time I built a PC it was installing the RAM that got me, PC wouldn’t boot and it was driving me nuts, I tore everything apart and put everything back together again only to find out I didn’t insert the RAM hard enough because I was too afraid I’d break it. Lol
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>>723059508
I'm not just going sit around here and be a called a retard on the Miiverse by someone who uses a smart TV
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>>723059576
cool, post address and ill post it to you
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>>723059508
>what is a free laptop from an e-waste facility
HUH?! That's a thing? What country are you from, anon?
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>>723059741
>i take laptops from exwaste facilities
e waste facility? never heard of such a place.
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>>723059649
you tell him buddy
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>building your PC
this is easy
>buying the right parts, for the right price
this is the nightmare bit
some gpu OEMs are dogshit/fail/low quality
PSUs can and will fry your shit in the big 2025, even if you buy from a decent brand some models are good some are chinkshit
asrock motherboards frying cpus
intel 14th gen CPU degradation
samsung SSDs killing themselves
anything related to the fucking 12VHPWR connector
the list goes on
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>>723059741
United States.
Im talking laptop from 2010 nobody in their right mind would want type of shit. Something you would only ever use if you needed to do the most basic web browsing at best.

>>723059810
Also I mean places that take old electronics to recycle them. Some of them let you buy old stuff thats going to be junked for almost nothing, I was exaggerating when I said free.
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>>723059081
>friend is building one and bragging about the stuff coming in the mail
>multiple 5090s, full send “workstation” build that’s just burning money
>water cooled
>say I’d be too afraid of it bursting and destroying everything
>he tells me that’s stupid, I’m stupid, water cooled is the best and they can’t break
>he has a cat
>cat chews through it the third day after he builds it
>$4000 in GPUs alone completely fried
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>>723060048
>US
Well obviously. It's just weird for me hearing about things like "electronic waste facility" since I live in Russia and people just throw their old/broken shit in the trash
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>>723060064
I find it hard to believe someone is simultaneously rich enough and retarded enough to build such a PC.
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>>723060202
Yeah I made it up
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>>723060175
Most people throw their shit in the trash here too. The stuff they have is almost entirely from businesses and universities after they upgrade their systems.
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>back then putting together a PC was just a thing that people did
>then PC gaming went mainstream
>now you have retards trying to smugly brag about putting together their PC and trying to judge the way others do it
>even though it's the simplest, retard-proof process and there is absolutely nothing to be proud of
i fucking hate normies so much
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>>723060363
Same thing happened to cars 50 years ago.
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>>723060363
>>even though it's the simplest, retard-proof process and there is absolutely nothing to be proud of
You're right, but as you can see in this thread and other places online, they do fuck it up, and badly.
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>>723059945
Nah tools like pcpartpicker have made part selection way easier. If you make reasonable choices and don't shit your pants over every "My PC blew up :(" post on reddit, it's not a big deal.
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>>723060048
fair enough, we probably have them in England i just dont go outside anymore.
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>>723057479
"It's as easy as putting lego pieces together--"
>WOOOOOW MOTHERBOARD DOESN'T SUPPORT THIS TYPE OF RAM
>WOOOOO YOUR RAM CHOICE HAS CRIPPLED GPU PERFORMANCE
>WOOOW THE PLACEMENT OF PARTS IS FUCKED AND ONLY THE HANDS OF A CHINESE FETUS CAN CONNECT THE CABLES TO THE PSU
>WOOOOOW YOUR PSU CAN'T SUPPORT THIS GPU WITH BOTH SSD AND HDD PLUGGED IN
>WOOOOW THERE'S NO SOCKET FOR THIS CABLE TYPE ANYWHERE BECAUSE SOMEHOW THE STANDARD HAS CHANGED
>WOOOW THE REPLACEMENT CABLE CAN'T REACH THE MOTHERBOARD BECAUSE IT'S TOO SHORT
>WOOOW, THE CASE DOESN'T HAVE ROOM FOR A LONGER CABLE BECAUSE YOU CHOSE TOO SMALL
>WOOOOW YOU CHEAPED OUT ON THE FAN NOW YOUR CPU IS COOKED
>WOOO BIOS CAN'T TELL WHICH DRIVE YOUR WINDOWS IS INSTALLED ON BECAUSE YOU FUCKED UP THE PLUG ORDER
>WOOOW YOU PUT THIS FAN BACKWARDS NOW THERE'S NO AIR FLOW IN THE CASE THE DUST BUILD-UP IS HUGE, EVERYTHING'S ON FIRE
AAAACK
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>>723060751
Yes, you are one very stupid man. You shouldn't be building a PC.
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>>723060751
>>WOOOW THE PLACEMENT OF PARTS IS FUCKED AND ONLY THE HANDS OF A CHINESE FETUS CAN CONNECT THE CABLES TO THE PSU
american post
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>>723060751
Making sure your components are compatible is step one of building a PC. None of that shit should be a surprise. You do that before you even start ordering parts. You are a full blown retard.
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>>723057479
>How actually easy is it to build a pc?
My sister's dumbass little brother built his own PC to play Roblox better.
If you are being beat by an ipad kid it's over for you.
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>>723060751
You used a lot of words just to tell everyone you have under 100 IQ.
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>>723060920
*girlfriend's
You get what I mean anyway.
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>>723058471
>using CDs in 2010+15
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>>723060952
hold up a fucking second
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>>723058000
This happens, I don't know why but it's common process to lose all you learned like that
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>>723058530
Reminds of when people plug their monitors into the mobo port when their processor doesn't have a inbuilt.
It is even funnier when their processors actually do have an inbuilt and they can't figure out why their games lag to shit despite having a good video card
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>>723057630
it's fun i like doing it too
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>>723058000
This you?
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>>723060918
>it's so easy anyone* could do it
>(*anyone with a degree in electronics)
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>>723060064
never leave the cat inside the case. rookie mistake.
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Fuck pcpartpicker, why won't it let you choose a default currency
So many times I put together a great bang for your buck pc on pcpartpicker, thinking i scored a great deal, only to realise the currency changed to usd for some damn reason, I change it back to aud and watch the price jump up by 1.5k at the least.
I hate it here
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>>723060751
how much would you pay to have someone build it? for market research purposes
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>>723058623
this was me but with constant stuttering the cause was the cpu throttling because it was constantly at 100°C. the stock fan that came with the cpu was shit and had no heatsink
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i literally had chatgpt guide me through it lmao
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>>723061269
>you need a degree in electronics to figure out that an AM4 socket won't take AM5 CPU's
Double digit IQ or baiting? Call it.
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>>723061356
Obvious bait but any part picking website worth their salt will warn you if your parts are incompatible (wrong CPU socket on mobo, too low wattage on the PSU etc.)
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>>723057479
>it's easy peasy dude lmao like lego
>forgets to peel off the heatsink plastic cover
>shits n farts
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>>723061295
You use the site for the compatibility checker, not to shop around, buy parts that are in-country you retard
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it's pretty easy, just don't be a mouthbreathing retard
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>>723061321
Nothing. A local computer store has an assembly service for free when you buy from them. They give a package discount for the parts too if you ask for an offer. I imagine this is standard practice in developed countries.
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>>723061409
you dont need to remove the plastic. the plastic should just melt, leaving the cpu and heatsink to contact fully
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>>723058603
You just gotta find the right guys anon. Got mine assembled and not a single problem nearly 9 years down the line.
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>>723061445
>450W PSU
It's funny how quaint this seems today.
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>>723061459
>i imagine
>for free
the price was included in the total, not free.
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>>723061321
i got a 1800 bucks PC which had 1650 bucks worth of parts in it if i bought them separately.
i consider the remaining 150 the fee for assembly on their part and i'm satisfied.
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>>723061550
it's overclockable
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>>723061556
>$150
fair, thank you for your reply.
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>>723061409
literally one of the examples i mentioned earlier of somthing that should never happen yet happens often enough to have become a meme
its easy, its just not that easy
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>>723061590
you think that's a good idea?
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>>723061551
You think I don't know how to read the receipt?
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>>723061598
>>723061556
maybe i should get a £10k loan, buy some pc parts and sell prebuilts, but then its not going to very busy. im not even bothered about making tons of profit, would prefer to help White anons and make just enough to buy myself a new cpu in a few months lol
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>>723061657
it's already included in their mark up
components are more expensive, so they assemble it 'for free'
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>>723061598
To give you two different references.
In my area my brother contacted 2 places before finally asking me
he was quoted 90 and 85€ for building and win11 install if you delivered the pieces to the workshop
This was in central spain.
A very good friend in Linz (third biggest city in Austria) got quoted 130€ for building from a large retailer near him with him delivering the pieces and 150€ for a dude to come to his house and build it in site
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>>723061621
i'm a professional gamer
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>>723061605
>just get a rocket science degree
>it's easy
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>>723061696
nta but its not only that the parts are more expensive, you are also spending 2k on the store instead of 1900 in amazon
thats 2k worth of business they wouldn't get otherwise, its a hard act to balance to keep prices attractive enough to compete while high enough to make a living
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>>723057479
It took me a few days of researching the parts to buy and a few hours to actually build it (im retard)
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>>723061696
The parts were worth 1,200. I asked for a deal and paid 1,150. Whatever they managed to squeeze out of that sure wasn't much.
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>>723061717
awesome, thats really good information, thanks. guess i could throw an ad in the local newsagents and offer the service. like i said im not wanting to get rich, just would like to buy myself a 78 or 9800x3d and the parts needed to run it. bought a new gpu and having to wait another 6 months to buy a 9800x3d. thank you.
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>>723061864
>im retard
not as bad as a lot of reddit pc enthusiasts.
have a nice day anins, im off to cut the hedge
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>>723057712
doing cables in a particular way is how iv been able to tell if a customer has messed with the insides of their computer (for warranty purposes) for like 30 years dude.
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the hardest part is screwing shit in hard-to-reach places
it feels like i'm doing an open-heart surgery where if i move too fast or bump the screwdriver into something the screw will fall into some secret, unreachable nook
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>>723058561
You'd probably need to get to them while they're still picking the parts, otherwise they're just gonna tick the box on the partpicker website that says "pay us 100+ bucks to put it together for you" and never even consider your existence. The amount of clients that buy a whole ass computer and then discover they're too retarded to put it together are probably very slim pickings. You could probably massively overcharge people for installing upgrades into their existing PCs pretty easily though.
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>psu cables all look the same
>connects gpu
>$1000 gone
i'd better buy a prebuilt from wallmart
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>finally assembles everything right
>BEEEP BEEEP BEEEP
>it does not pass the post test
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>>723057479
the """hardest""" part is to get the right parts that all fit into the case, mainboard and get enough slots for your PSU or hard drives/ SSDs but thats also not an issue anymore since there are tons of sites where you can just emulate your build and it tells you whats missing or whether it works

the actual building part is piss easy if you arent a complete retard, most parts only fit into their own slots and if you arent smashing everything together like a gorilla you should never break aynthing
the mainboard can bent quite a lot before breaking, I know this from experience
most people overthing the cooling paste on the CPU, dont fucking worry and just spread it around like butter on a toast
>what if I put too much
who fucking cares nothing will happen this shit aint conductive
>what if I put too little
hardly ever happens even if you use the one drop method but just check your temp the first time launching and if it does, open it up again and put some more
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>>723057479
It's too hard, don't try it. Only the top 1% of intellectuals can do it. Stay out.
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has anyone here actually bent the pins on their cpu? I remember flat out dropping mine and getting rough trying to unstuck it from the cpu cooler's thermal paste but never bent any pins

how serious is that shit really? everyone says shit like "DONT EVER BEND THE FOOKING PINS!!" but then also "yeah if you bent them just bend them back carefully", what if you fuck up? how easy is it to fuck up straightening the pins? if you bend the pins, and don't straighten it out, is your cpu just completely and utterly fucked? thats it? its never clear how serious or non serious the pins are
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>>723062991
CPUs don't even have pins
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>>723062991
>pins
this is an Intel board, if you wanna talk about amd cpus head on over to /cm/
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>>723063058
amd had pins up to AM4
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>>723063445
Well that's stupid of them, I assume they had it that way thanks to the american patent system or something equally retarded.
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>subzero's your entire rig despite it being middle of the summer
my fucking beloved
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>>723062991
>has anyone here actually bent the pins on their cpu?
I accidentally destroyed my first cpu
the fucking clamshell packaging wouldn't open so I just kept pulling and pulling until it suddenly popped open and launched the cpu 5 feet into the air and landed on my tile floor pin side down
completely ruined the cpu, entire rows of pins flattened
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>>723063632
I can feel your pain from here
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>never overclocks anything in their entire life
>installs top of the line most expensive fans and/or water cooling
why are people like this
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>>723063779
so it's quieter
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>>723063779
so I don't end up like this guy >>723059202
very glad I splurged on a peerless and an 850 w psu
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>>723057479
After you got the parts with a tool that makes sure they all fit together the only hurdles I had were:
- The fucking creaking of the CPU crank unnerving me.
-The RAM sticks legit taking a hammer beating to go fully connected into the slots
- Not forgetting the damn BEEP and power button to connect with those tiny pins at the corner of the motherboard
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>>723057479
its easy, circular plug goes into circular hole, square plug goes into square hole, red plug goe- wait nevermind, nothing is color coded anymore.
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>>723063779
In summer, temperatures where I am can reach up to 40C, and are usually ~35C as a rule.
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>>723063779
I legit way overspend on my first case and I am still using it. Shit has like 4 fans in the case and dust departments and storage. But in summer I just turn up the fan speed with the buttons on the front and enjoy a nice fresh breeze. The PC itself doesn't need it.
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you didn't fall for the RGB fans and strobe light rig memes did you anon? yes you, your case doesn't look like the inside of a cantina in star wars, does it? like it belongs to a literal child?
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>>723064127
holy shit a talking monkey
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>>723064462
Worse. Australian.
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>>723064506
get an ac cunt
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>>723064404
My entire rig is black with the only lights being a soft hue change gpu and light green memory, it's a lot more dim in person. But I like the sleek look, no rainbow fans and what not just a bit of life inside the machine
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>>723064404
Well my motherboard has a few small RGB lights I didn't know it had when I bought the thing, every other component apart from the sink temp display is dead dark.
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>>723058000
Nah people only retain like 10% of shit unless you're exposed to it repeatedly.
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>>723064604
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>>723064404
Insecure niggers like you are why part manufacturers have realised they can upsell on shit that's just plain black
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>>723064610
>case on desk
desu I hate your soultion
>screen reflections visible in case
>stupid rgb lights taking away your attention
my case is on the floor and I turned all lights off
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>$5 for a firework
:(
>Buy one get one free for $10
:o
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>>723064669
The pessimist will say "Ten bucks more for a black paint job."
The optimist will say "Ten bucks less for a cheery paint job"
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>>723057479
It can be a bit fiddly and I always dread mounting the CPU heatsink but just do your research and you'll be fine. It's easier than ever nowadays since there's so much learning material online, videos of people working with the exact hardware you want to use etc.
Go for it anon, I believe in you.
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>>723059081
Lol everyone I know who have used watercooling have had problems with it, one person had liquid leaking over hardware after a pump broke

Lol total waste, my CPU never goes above 50C and it's air cooled in a sff case, minimal maintenance and no noise, just get the biggest cooler your case will allow
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>>723064669
plain black has been a sell over colours in general, everywhere. retard
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>>723064669
im not spending thousands on my pc to end up being lgbt coloured
who the fuck actually enjoys strobing lights, shits distracting as fuck
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>>723064672
they're really proper dim in person
>case on floor
>mfw
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The worst thing about RGB lights isn't that they're distracting or whatever gay shit you people come up with to justify being a contrarian. The issue is that they're an unnecessary power drain.
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>>723064963
I mean the desk has a stand a bit above the floor, but the case is still at legs level, not eye level
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>>723065004
Shut up you faggot ass hippie.
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>>723063969
Haven't had a RAM slot be difficult to me since last time I bought ASRock about 20 years ago.

>>723064669
>Noctua
You're getting scalped regardless.
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>>723065043
Fuck you, I'll fight you 1v1 irl I sware on me mam
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>>723057479
It's somewhere between "duhhh it's like legos for adults" and actually being complicated. The hard part is actually picking the right components that can actually work with each other. The assembly process itself is daunting to do for the first time alone because you're easily psyched out over the knowledge that each part is probably worth quite a bit of money so you're overly cautious and really nervous, the best way to learn how to assemble a PC is to just have someone who knows what they're doing walk you through it on your first go.
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>>723063198
>she still buys intel
ngmi
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>>723058015
Ken-sama is that you?
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>have built all my pcs from day 1
>still do so
>even help others with their needs
>even help fix some fucked up issues sometimes
>also moved to HEDT/server bullshit now
the only thing that really makes life hard is the space you have available to you and how much shit youre trying to shove into that space. builds where i have 2mm of room to play between a gpu and radiator is NOT what i want to put up with but if it can work then so be it.
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>dude pc building is like legos it's piss easy lmao
>ram isn't going in
>remember people saying that you should just push until it clicks
>push as hard as I can
>mobo snaps in half
Fuck you /v/ never listening to any of you faggots again
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>>723064610
THIS NIGGA USING AN ELECTRIC TOOTHBRUSH
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>>723057479
i don't even know bro i built the pc i'm using now 10 fucking years ago and i can't even remember if it was hard or not. probably not. just b urself
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>>723065219
Did you undo the socket latch first? RAM and video cards have latches that need to be undone before you socket the part, then the latch automatically locks the part in.
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>>723057479
It's easy if you aren't a retarded zoomer who haven't touched a PC before.
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>>723057479
The difficulty is less in the assembly and more in making sure you're not making very expensive mistakes by buying incompatible parts
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>>723065083
>she still b-ACK!!
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>buy parts
>assemble pc
>it just werks
it's really not that hard
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>>723063198
AM5 is LGA not PGA, get with the times, it was AM4 and below that was PGA.
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>>723057584
Lego doesn't cost $500 a piece and isn't easily bent and rendered useless when you put them wrong.
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>>723057479
>gpu was too big for the case because of some plastic edge for the design
>have the option to be stupidly retarded or be smart and simply remove everything and get another case
>
>grab a hammer and start bashing the crap out of the case's metal bracket inside for 30 minutes straight WHILE all the components are inside
>this slowly works as I'm able to lodge the gpu in snugly
>PC has been working fine since built
I really don't wanna upgrade because I'll have to open up that shitshow and possibly face the consequences
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I got a 6950xt and so far it's working completely fine over a year, every update has been seamless, maybe it's cause I have an Intel CPU and not an amd. Either way, all these fuck amd doomposts just has me waiting for my turn, feels like my days are numbered and I really don't wanna deal with bios shit man
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>>723057479
It's pretty fucking easy but it it's also very stressful.
Like it's seriously unlikely you'd manage to fuck anything up...
BUT if you DO fuck anything up you're out hundreds of dollars instantly...
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>build 1 (one) budget PC 5 years ago, and occasionally swap out parts
>friend thinks im some tech wiz now and hits me up about every single minor thing about his computer
>i dont know what the fuck he's talking about 90% of the time
I've told him i don't know shit about computers but he still does it
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>>723062991
Yes, I've had my AM4 come off with the heatsink three times, the last time I dropped it while separating it. Good news is it was a very short fall and I can't spot the bent pins, bad news is I can't spot them. 30 minutes cooking on Prime95 with the fans nearly off to the point the upper half of the case got very warm apparently wasn't enough.
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>>723065732
many keks
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>>723058575
cool, stay on your literal baby toy console.
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>>723065346
not even him, but electric toothbrushes are fucking bomb.
they clean faster and better with a third of the effort of standard ones
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>>723062991
The worst mistake I ever made with pc building was fucking destroying one of my mobo's pci ports when taking out a shitty budget gpu in order to replace it with a better one, but it ultimately didn't matter because the mobo had 3 other pci ports
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>>723057479
Don't fucking make your first build ever out of the most expensive parts you can find. You'll be too scared to fuck with it since a stupid mistake will mean possibly bricking the whole thing (if you really fuck up) and losing thousands.

Get on craigslist or ebay and buy a piece of shit some guy is getting rid of for $200-$300 and take it apart, put it back together, confirm it works, then do it again.

Lose the fear of touching the inside of a computer on some cheap piece of shit. They don't give year 1 sculptors prime fucking marble to make mistakes with, neither should you be fucking with good parts on your first try.
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>>723065883
nta but why do you people repeatedly gloat about le master race but then shun anyone trying to join and learn to build, not even buying a pre built, they express the desire to listen and earn a pc but a lot of times the same pc elitists start trying to gatekeep. make up your mind
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>>723063779
Intel basically comes out of the box overclocking itself to thermal throttle so your performance is directly correlated to your cooling. That said, most people would be better off disabling the shit because running double the watts and 35c hotter for a 1.4% fps boost is retarded.
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>>723065732
dug up a pic i took of this happening
I also forgot to include i was up for 25 hours
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>>723058413
>use a website that calculates if your parts are compatible and if your power supply is enough for what you have
Which one do you recommend?
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>>723065912
But... le legos...
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>>723058885
My man
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>was having system stability issues
>look into everything
>eventually find out it was the RAM
>buy new ram
>shows up
>have a huge CPU heat sink that sits right over the RAM
>think I will have to take apart the whole thing to get in and just swap out the RAM
>become lazy and put off changing it for an entire week
>just deal with the occasional crashes
>eventually get tired of it and go to finally swap it out
>turns out I misremembered and there was room to take the ram out without having to fuck with the heat sink
Ooops.
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>>723065912
>become experienced handling shitty cheap parts and fingering 2nd hand pcs
>first time with expensive brand new pieces
>overconfidence leads to accidently destroying the cpu
>delicate gpu and many other parts shatter into a million pieces due to being used to handling sturdy already well worn parts

yeah what now smart cunt what now
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>>723063779
>better thermals and acoustics BAD
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>>723065732
The great Grug in the skies is proud of you.
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>>723060426
>Same thing happened to cars 50 years ago.
Newer cars these days are fucking hard to repair because manufacturers don't want you keep car for the next 20 years.
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>>723057479
I'm not reading the rest of the thread. it's easy enough that most people who aren't retarded can figure it out. you have
1. motherboards that are compatible with specific chipsets and RAM
2. you need to get said chipset and some RAM to fit into it
3. then you need to take your motherboard's size into consideration, which will inform the size and amount of space in your chassis for things like graphics cards and your heatsink.
4. all of your components are going to consume electricity, so you need to consider the amount of consumption and choose an appropriate PSU according to your needs
5. you're going to need storage, usually two drives is the standard but you could have more
6. you need to get thermal paste for the CPU + heatsink, you need to get zip ties for cable management
7. you're most likely going to use an air cooler heatsink, but later on you might dabble in liquid cooling, which has its own requirements.
8. you're going to need peripherals and an OS

once you get all this, it mostly just werks. it can be more complicated, like if you're on linux and you're trying to use nvidia cards, you're gonna maybe have a bad time with drivers, but these are specific problems that arise out of your configuration, and can be accounted for ahead of time if you have a fucking brain.

it really is just like legos in the sense that these parts all fit together in a specific way so as to be pretty much fool proof, but you're going to need to think about software and hardware compatibility + stylistic decisions if you're into RGB lighting or whatever bullshit.

tl;dr it's more or less easy enough to do but you need a brain.
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>>723066306
tldr eli5
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>>723066048
the absolute madman
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>>723066048
I have that exact case and all I can say is... Did you consider rotating the GPU slightly to clear the lip there? Because that's a big fucking case.
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>>723066048
insanely fucking based
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>>723066396
no
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>>723057479
It's literally impossible.
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>>723066048
based hammerGOD, for all the little innocent cases out there getting gaped by upsized gpus, I kneel
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>>723057479
Legos can actually be really fucking complicated
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>>723066445
Based retard
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>>723066103
Yeah, legos with tiny pins, capacitors, and fragile circuit boards that don't like to be touched by oily ape fingers.

I wouldn't let my own father (PhD) set a brand new $500 CPU, even if he had the instructions on his lap. He has no experience with it and it's actually kind of easy fuck up tiny fragile electric things. Just turning it 90 degrees could spell disaster.
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>>723065126
Ozeki in november Yokozuna in 2026
The era of Dan can't be stopped
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>>723065912
>waste money on a practice build so you're not afraid of wasting money
stupidest advice i've ever heard, same with retards who tell you to start out with Ryu for 30 hours in street fighter before finding a character to play.

It's damn near impossible to fuck up putting together a PC outside of bending the CPU pins, or using a bad PSU or the cables from a different PSU. At worst, it won't start, and you'll look like a retard troubleshooting for a while.
The main place you'll fuck up is actually before you get the parts, where you check to see if the parts are compatible and if your wattage is under the limit

>t. spent $1500 on my first PC build
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>>723066048
Based. Case designers need more focus testers like you
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>>723066306
>usually two drives is the standard but you could have more
getting just one big drive has been the standard for years hasn't it
>you need to get thermal paste for the CPU + heatsink
should come with the cooler, often pre applied even
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>>723058174
Red line of death and misery
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>>723058283
>food analogy
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It's relatively easy, but with anything hardware related there could always be really obscure problems that you will never find the cause of and that may or may not make your system unusable.
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>>723066510
>little innocent cases
It's not little, it's a Phanteks Enthoo Pro and it has a GPU clearance of 18.583" (472 mm), more than enough for a long card if you rotate it slightly to get it inside the drive bay lip there.
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>>723057479
>How actually easy is it to build a pc?
It requires enough brainpower to open youtube to find a 15-minute video and watch it without tabbing back to league, subway surfers or whatever the fuck your adhd ass is playing right now
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>>723058885
This poster is smarter than most /v/
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>>723066589
It's not about how easy they are to put together, it's about building confidence for the people in this thread that complain about being "scared" of messing with their PC. Honestly, they should be scared, at least a little. If they're too careless, they could be out $200-$1000 on a nice part, even honest simple mistakes can ruin a part.

>play Ryu for 30 hours
You should if you want to develop the fundamentals in your brain and make connections in your long term memory. Fighting games are more about developing good instincts rather than committing combo #24 to muscle memory and using it beat scrubs until you hit a wall (players with strong fundamentals) and then have to go back to the Ryu training anyway.
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Which video was it for you guys

This guy was my damn hero, got me through my first 2 builds
>https://youtu.be/PXaLc9AYIcg
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>>723066790
4u
but actually looking at it now If you look at the image i posted, the actual drive chassis is bent too, I had to beat that shit in with the hammer too now that I remember
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>>723057479
I just bricked my pc by upgrading the CPU.
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>>723066871
mine is from hard cardboard tubing that we use in constructioncut to the measure i needed
sort of looks like a roll of toilet paper, i then put an apposite cut in half for it to rest on the case and the gpu. One of those apposite for the heel when you are breaking new shoes
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>>723057479
>AUD
There are very very good prebuilt providers in Australia (unlike America)
Guy should kill himself.
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>>723067039
please, continue
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>>723057479
Don't forget to wear the cuck leash
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you only bother with pc gaming if you enjoy tinkering
otherwise just get a console
something WILL break one day or another and you'll have to fix it
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>>723067232
fantastic post anon, you sure told us
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>>723057520
>Bracket I got with my GPU keeps fucking slipping out from under the thing
Fucking garbage these things.
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>>723067271
im on arch derivative btw if you're curious :^)
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>>723067216
this has to be a meme
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Building a PC isn't totally retard proof and I won't claim you can't mess things up, but its probably not as hard as many think. A PC has relatively few parts.

CPU (brain)
RAM (short term memory)
Hard drive/Solid State Drive (long term memory)
Graphics card (visual projector to your screen)
Power supply (the thing that gives energy)
Motherboard (the body all your parts connect into)
Case (the house alll your parts live in)

In layman's terms this is really all a modern PC is, excluding stuff outside the box like monitor, keyboard etc; you can technically simplify it even more but that's not really necessary to know. If you can wrap your head around this, you have a general idea of what a computer is. There's tons of good building vids online so if you follow along with those its relatively easy, it's how I built my first PC
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>>723067005
That doesn't even make sense, that specific card model requires a clearance of 310mm, your case should have fit it no problem. Unless I'm wrong about the case model and it's a smaller version of the one I have.
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>>723067426
i dont think it matters anymore at this point
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>>723067216
Bro just touch the side of the case.
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>>723057479
>That fucking horror when pushing RAM into the slot and you don't know if the MB is going to snap
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>>723067232
I've only had one PSU go bad over 20+ years, and that was after a storm took out my power (user error). A modern console takes way more maintenance heavy wearing out thermal compound and getting choked up by dust in their claustrophobic casings.
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>>723057479
The parts come with instructions. It's monkey work
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>>723067451
Yeah you're probably right, get a big case next time though, you get a better temperature out of it and it reduces the load on the CPU sink if the ambient inside the case is lower. To say nothing of having higher clearances for shit.
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>want to add another ssd
>have to take off cpu cooler to access the fastest slot
>have to take the mobo out to take off cpu cooler
jesus christ, so much work
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>>723067515
maybe because you've been using a pc for 20+ years and knows what you are doing
its not just about the hardware but the software too. how many times your friends asked you how to fix a specific issue on their pc?
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>>723067685
>have to take the mobo out to take off cpu cooler
What? Post cooler, what the fuck.
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>>723067685
>have to take off cpu cooler to access the fastest slot
>have to take the mobo out to take off cpu cooler
Post setup because I can't imagine how doing that is actually necessary.
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I put my CPU fan the wrong way around and my rig fans aren't even plugged in and this bad boy has worked perfectly for almost a decade now.
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>>723067749
Never, I conceal my power level.
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>>723067750
>>723067774
I've got a Dark Rock Pro 4 + lancool mesh 2 performance. Mounting it while mobo is in the case is a bit of a pain in the ass.
I've done it a few times, but I really hate it.
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>>723067847
CPU throttled performance due to heat damage.
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>>723067912
Yeah, that makes sense. I am so sorry.
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>>723067913
No way, probably the most throttling thing would be the fact that I haven't vacuumed it either for all that time.
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>>723067972
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>>723067912
>>723067957
Can you really not reach the screws in that? Fucked up.
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>>723057479
it's easy and nobody should ever try to help the mentally disabled retards that cant do it themselves even with a guide.
all i can think of when i hear them is that fucking tool on 4chan that built literally everything in his pc wrong. cpu fan pointing downwards/upwards, storage free-hanging, etc. anyone got that screencap?
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>>723067913
My CPU fan wasn't doing its job and it was incredibly noticable due to sporatic stutters when something intense happened and the temperature shot up. Got myself a peerless assassin and holy shit that thing's a fucking value monster
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>>723068016
You could with specialty computer tools designed to get around internal clearance cases, but most people aren't gonna have a set.
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>>723067508
I think the creaking noise made when you seat the CPU down is far more unnerving.
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>>723068010
It's not that bad.
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>>723068073
My Scythe 2 shipped with a long screwdriver just for mounting it, assumed that was standard.
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>>723068017
I got you. I don't believe it though, it has to be bait.
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>>723068153
yeah I've got a loong screwdriver from thermalright and from bequiet
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>>723066684
>getting just one big drive has been the standard for years hasn't it
if you have two drives and one goes bad, well at least you have a backup. that's my view on things. these days usually people get a regular HDD + solid state drive for better performance. I usually stick with HDDs because it's not a huge deal.
>thermal paste should come with the cooler, often pre applied even
yeah, you can go that route, but people will often buy aftermarket coolers because they offer better performance than the standard OEM coolers, for which you will need thermal paste. plus not every CPU is going to come with its own cooler, especially if you buy from certain retailers like aliexpress or something.
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>>723068119
what in the fuck and im not talking about the dust
i mean what in the fuck
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I've done it 5 times now and tt's easy but stressful and I wouldn't do it myself again
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>>723068181
>>723068119
not bait, huh? no, some people are clearly that fucking dumb.
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>>723068283
Hey, as long as it works.
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The biggest factor in making tinkering with your PC enjoyable is to invest in a good well recieved case. Don't make my mistake and buy some black friday PC deal where they throw in a shitbox because they know you're just looking at the inwards, invest in a good case.
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>>723068232
>but people will often buy aftermarket coolers because they offer better performance than the standard OEM coolers, for which you will need thermal paste
those come with thermal paste too though...
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>>723068428
yeah but there are some autistic people who think that standard thermal paste isn't good enough, they're willing to pay for quality like thermalglizzy or arctic silver or whatever.
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>>723068589
I do like a paste that lasts a bit longer than the standard stuff if only because I hate pulling the sink off to reapply it every year or so.
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>>723068671
yeah it makes sense.
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>>723068119
>CPU fans cooling the GPU and pulling the air towards the top fan
could work, except there should be 2 fans on a cooler like that and one didn't fit
that PSU fan should be pulling the air from outside the case through the bottom holes btw
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just make someone else build it
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>>723069687
My precious...
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>>723058471
Just buy one of those USB cd/DVD players, they're like 20 buckaroos
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>>723067972
>probably the most throttling thing would be the fact that I haven't vacuumed it either for all that time.

You're joking...
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>>723057479
It's really not that hard, assuming you can follow instructions, I'm not super into hardware or anything and when I built mine I just used the Mobo instruction manual to learn how to plug everything in for stuff that wasn't literally obvious because it only goes in one obvious socket.
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guys the hardware assembly is the easiest fucking part. the hard part is the software troubleshooting. your pc is not going to work exactly like other anon because you chose different parts and software from them. every windows 11 is not the same, neither is your pso cache.
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>>723058736
This just happened to me but it was stupid easy. You take the things out of the boxes and put them in the slots. Modern parts come with retard oriented diagrams so you don't even have to remember where they go. PCPartPicker exists so you don't even have to match the parts anymore
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>>723071285
This.
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>>723071285
>he still uses windows
might buy a prebuild or gaming laptop at this point
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>>723071285
I don't play PSO.
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>>723071349
masterful bait video
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>>723067317
Not a meme. Static electricity used to be a bigger problem, and could fry your components.
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>>723072234
a person i know lost to the fake download button literally the moment i wasn't walking them thru how how pirate shit. they're out there
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Building a pc is easy modo.
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>>723072503
Did that guy take his PC for a stroll at the beach or something??
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>>723058000
I'm in a similar boat (even went with a prebuilt originally because I was worried and kept telling myself I'd fuck something up) but recently decided to take the plunge and in all honesty it's really not that bad. Just be careful and aware of things like touching metal objects to discharge your built of static to avoid ESD and follow MB guides and you'll be fine. Watch a few PC build vids too so you can visualize how others do it.
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>>723059081
zoomies build led show cases with glass panels so a pump looks good in their shit setup
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>>723057479
Making a functional PC is easy and most people, even retards can make it work after following a guide. Having an aesthetically pleasing result needs enough experience to know which cables and how much to bend them, which ones can go to what place in the case to be hidden, and enough soul in your body to put effort in it in the first place.
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>>723058228
That's pretty much it, especially the CPU part. I spent twenty minutes going through every scenario in my head of how I could fuck things up before doing it.
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>>723061445
Just challenge the people to even identify the components in the picture, even that would be an uphill battle for some people.
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>have no idea what I'm doing
>buy random parts online
>plug the cables and stuff in the only place that fit
>It just works(tm)
It's actually even easier than Lego
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>>723057479
Bro if you spent 2k on a PC you can afford the $100 installation fee. It's okay. Not everyone is skilled in everything. Letting others do stuff for you that you can not do yourself is alright. Better to lose $100 than to lose $2k. People are just stupid and greedy.
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>>723058000
>>>immediately lose all knowledge of how the pc works and whatever else over a few days
that's how I am with coding. Unless I do that shit literally every day it disappears immediately. It used to be really bad and shit I wrote a week ago I couldn't remember a single thing about.
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>>723057479
i've had 4 seperate builds, with my first build around 2008. i'd say building a PC has only gotten easier. i remember CPU coolers being a headache to install, but my most recent one has a AIO cooler that was stupidly easy. motherboards now have a fancy button that releases the GPU latch. m.2 ssd's mean less cables to manage. no more chonky HDDs and disk drives. modular PSUs are now a lot more affordable so you only use the cables you need without loose cables getting in the way. front panel no longer needs so many tiny connectors. no more molex cables either. display port is a lot less of a hassle than vga/dvi. RAM only has latches on one side.
the only build i think would actually be difficult is one with custom loop water cooling.
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>>723057479
building one is easy

building one with good cable management is a pain
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>building a PC is hard
>but if you hire someone to do it they'll 100% steal your parts and replace then with literal garbage
>pre-builts are shit too
Are you just fucked if you don't have someone who can actually teach you to build?
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>>723076584
I think it has to deal with knowledge retention in general. Even if you spend decades upon decades of honing something, certain things just don't take root too well due to either results of poor practice, poor methods or just a lack of processing capacity in the noggin'. It's very common with programming, heuristics and math in general. Most of those involve an I/O logic, but at the same time you're looking at problem solving for things you might have forgotten or did not take vast time to acclimate to. Those with high IQ or ridiculously good memory tend to have less problems with such issues, as i have a literal schizophrenic friend who might as well be a walking encyclopedia when it comes to arcane comp sci topics and math.
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>>723076986
>building a PC is hard
if you're retarded
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>>723076986
>but if you hire someone to do it they'll 100% steal your parts and replace then with literal garbage
Who the fuck are you hiring to do it lmao
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>>723076986
>but if you hire someone to do it they'll 100% steal your parts and replace then with literal garbage
huh?
All parts are branded as fuck anon, you can just peek throught the side panel and you will see the names on all the shit
If you see your GPU says Jewforce then start worrying
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>>723064404
Mine's lit up, but modest. I keep it on green, all the time.
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>>723077821
the fur of the cat cools the fans
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>>723064404
RGB isn't THAT bad so long as you keep it a pleasant solid colour and don't go overboard. Or just dim it a bit so it's more of an ambient glow.
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>>723077114
Tony "Two-Time" Sticcifingarelli. Seems to be an upstanding fellah to me
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>>723076986
>>but if you hire someone to do it they'll 100% steal your parts and replace then with literal garbage
unless you're having it mailed overseas or some shit to be built no one is going to do this
it is very obvious to prove it's not the part you gave them and then they'd get sued, it would not be worth the risk
that said, building a PC is not hard lol and you should do it yourself, not having that skill in the year 2025 is a huge failure. plus part of the benefit of being on PC is you can upgrade parts individually instead of buying a whole new PC, the effort of packing up your PC and taking it somewhere to have someone do it for you quickly becomes greater than the effort it takes to swap one thing out.
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>>723057479
>How actually easy is it to build a pc?
Easy.

You get a motherboard, and you get a case it can fit inside. You install a CPU, you put on the heatsink mess, and you attach a heatsink. You get memory, a graphics card, and a power supply. Put everything in the case and screw it down. Then connect everything to power, including the front panel of the case.

Add installing a wireless card or something similar if needed.

There, you're done. The biggest problems are making sure everything is compatible (most good computer stores should have people willing to help with that) and getting the motherboard to screw into the holes of the case with sometimes narrow places to reach.

>How important is cable management?
Not much. Have some twistties with a plastic outer case (not paper outer case) to tie them together. The cases I've used have plenty of holes so you can hold the cables in place.

Seriously, putting together a PC isn't a big deal.
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>>723057630
This was me for a friend. I was just happy to do it. It's a cool project to do together. At the end of the day you get to see it light up and do graphics.
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>>723071942
It's developer term for shader cache you dolt.
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You slide shit into slots, it's all marked on the motherboard and everything has a different shape, you can't accidentally put ram into a GPU slot unless you apply too much force, which you shouldn't do. You can Google videos for reference too nowadays.
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>>723078626
It's even become much easier as time has gone on.
>HDD's less prelevant so not really much faffing around with ATA cables.
>Most of the things that used to be non-integrated peripherals (like sound cards, CD drives, zip drives and modems) tend to have been made obsolete or integrated into mobo functionalities.
There's literally not much left beyond installing your CPU, GPU, memory and PSU. It's gone from moderately modular to brain dead easy over the years.
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>>723058015
>watch video on psu replacement
>the parts dont even fucking resemble the Power supply units in the video and the wire thickness difference is a literal 4cm in radius so they dont even fucking fit through the hole that reaches to the gpu
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>>723057479
Like 90% of the difficulty comes from software and driver issues, the hardware is the easy part and may take a week of research and checking compatibility
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If you don't appreciate your computer give it to me.
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>>723079220
I just took the (relatively new) SSD out of my decade old machine and stuck it in my new PC and it booted up
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>>723065985
Because you have infinite resources with a dozen lifetimes worth of content on the subject, and you still can't figure it out. Learn or don't learn but stop pleading for sympathy because you're retarded.
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>>723057479
The difficult curve and the money curve aren't things a sensible person can get comfortable with without practice. I think I'm going to have to do part time in a place that builds and/or repairs PCs before doing my own
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>>723077069
It's actually simpler than that. The brain's plasticity means that skills, as expressed by specific arrangements of neural pathways, that aren't frequently exercised are remapped into arrangements you do use. Essentially Use-It-Or-Lose-It. People with good memory are paradoxically less adaptable since their brains have low plasticity, people with high plasticity don't know how to do anything unless they're doing it frequently.

Now for the existential horror part. Your memory works in exactly this way. If you have high plasticity, odds are if you're not referencing your memories frequently, you're losing them. You depend on episodic memory to retain your self identity.
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>>723057479
Affording the components is more difficult than putting them together
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>>723064610
>putting the PC on the desk
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>>723065703
Ni ether are computer components, retard. Plus, a LEGO piece can go anywhere, whereas a PC part can only go where it goes. You can't accidentally put a drive into a DIMM slot or some shit. So it's easier than building LEGO.
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>>723081797
>he sits on his pc
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>>723057614
It's really not hard and doesn't take very long to build yourself. It's silly to pay someone to do it, it's also nice knowing how to do it yourself so you can easily upgrade parts later. Like you aren't going to pay someone to replace your CPU down the line, right?
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>>723082538
It's really not that scary. The scary part is getting it in there without touching the contact surfaces
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>>723082538
[laughs in socket 7]
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>>723082397
I'm gladly paying those 100 bucks to someone else, who then will have to make sure that everything works correctly and also do the cable management
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be sure you get that paste on
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>>723082538
Just slam the fucker down and let fate handle the rest
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>>723082538
>bought a used amd cpu
>bent two of the pins trying to put it in
>opened a return request and claimed it arrived bent
>got me moni back
Yeah I'm Based

>>723082731
Big think right here
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>>723082538
Git gud.
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>>723057520
stop being a npc and use your brain
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>>723057479
Modern builds are easy, everything slots into place and the most you need to do is work with small screws.

Get a full sized tower if you can fit in wherever you're putting the computer. That gives you the most space to work with when putting it together, and has the best airflow when the build is complete.

Basically you screw in the PSU (power supply unit) and motherboard to the computer case. Then the other parts slot into the motherboard. Last you have to plug all the cables in, which you can use twist ties or rubber bands to try and keep things tidy but you don't need to.

And that's all there is to it for 90% of builds. Should only take like a half hour to an hour.
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>>723082630
>there without touching the contact surfaces
You can just clean them? Most people that build a PC tend to have a cleaner capable of removing thermal paste you can use that before you do the heatsink to make sure it's clean.
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>>723083287
No I mean the contact surfaces to the motherboard. You cannot touch those. The underside of the CPU is lava.
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>>723068181
Remember that thread
It eventually turned less in to making fun of the guy and more understanding that there was something genuinely cognitively wrong with the dude, and people started to offer help. Some anon figured out that he lived close by to the dude and ofered to come over and see what he would do for the PC, wonder what ever came of that.
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>have autism, struggle with puzzles and any chore more complex than laundry
>have my coworkers build my pc and install my new parts for me
>sometimes just buy their old builds flat out
>they also homebrew/hack all my game consoles because I suck at that as well
I've offered them money as compensation but they never accept it.
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>>723083060
>the most you need to do is work with small screws
Hell, they're not really that small. I never need a different sized screwdriver or anything
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>>723058000
are you a tech priest? lol
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>>723078438
Cool, still not joining your guild.
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>>723060363
Me and the anons bullying lil bird gups who can't put together legos.
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>>723082048
>You can't accidentally put a drive into a DIMM slot or some shit.
not with your tiny, weak, nerd hands
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It's easy enough IF you know what you are doing.
If you can buy and disassemble some old garbage desktop PC you can get some good practice. If you're in doubt, ChatGPT and youtube are your best friends.
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>>723086941
>If you're in doubt, ChatGPT and youtube are your best friends.
Devilish.
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>>723059202
>>Dont want to deal with all those fucking cables again
You need to plug in 3 things.
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>>723065584
You're not supposed to use actual data, only anecdotes.
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>>723062991
it depends, you can fuck it up.
my older brother when I was a teenager accidentally bent the pins on my cpu when we were building my pc together, he was fucking around and then realized he fucked up.
luckily he was working at place that did mobo repairs and was an electrical engineer, he just took it into work the next day, bent it back, tested it, and it was all good.
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>>723057747
youre indian. lmao. brown.
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>>723057520
50 years?
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It's not so easy as it seems.
1.It begins from buying a motherboard;
2.Then you buy an appropriate processor;
3. Connect the processor to the motherboard;
4. Then buy power box and connect it to motherboard;
5. Then buy appropriate RAM according to motherboard manual and connect it;
6. Then buy SSD;
7. And final step -- buy the steel system box with fans.
Buying parts step by step excludes a mistake.
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>>723094968
4. Buy appropriate GPU and connect it.
8. Buy power box.
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>>723058346
4 sticks of ram has ALWAYS been less stable. It's not inherent to DDR5, simply that memory controllers and interconnects might not be able to handle it
as far as stability for Ram Overclocking goes (WHICH IS ANY XMP/expo/DOCP PROFILE FYI) it goes from most to least stable
>2 sticks of single rank in dual channel>2 sticks of dual rank in dual channel>4sticks of single rank in dual channel>4 sticks of dual rank in dual channel
I'm not even getting into shit like quad channel or HEDT/workstation or ECC builds because none of you will ever work a day in your life. Go enable Raid0 on your NVMEs or something
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5070ti or 9070xt?
or wait for next year
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>>723088826
ChatGPT is an advanced search engine that scrapes reddit.
Youtube has enough indians updating the most specific parts of old laptops for you to learn all there is too it.
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>>723057479
>brainlet spends 2k without spending like an hour to prep
a fool and his money are easily parted
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>>723058014
>what ever happened to the old configuration?
big video cards and the movement of hd bays/optical drives from the front of the tower to the sides(usually)
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>>723057479
/v/ seems incredibly less intelligent than ~10 years ago, and most people here were retarded children then.

So ti's probably too tough for you. For normal functioning adult males it's quite easy, if you struggle with legos you'll have a bad time.
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>>723057520
>shouldn't technology be getting smaller the more advanced it is.
I forget the term but its a matter of the sheer laws of physics stopping us from making smaller electronics, we hit absolute wall on sophisticated small tech and the pendulum is swinging back now with things getting bigger, correct me if im a wrong stupid nigger
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>>723099619
It's not physics, but a lack of advancement in transistor tech. They're as small as we can get them, so now the game is simply adding more of them (bigger components) and running them faster (better cooling).The technology to make molecular valves exists and could be used to replace transistor tech, but it's not reliable enough for computing yet.
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>>723065584
>>723091968
>Only one outlet
>Every other source says otherwise
>Intel forced to extend their warranties to compensate
Not one of my AMD CPUs have failed. You don't win just by ignoring the overwhelming data, backlash, and aftermath. Got a 14700k for free after one seller tried to sell me a dead one as new. It was still under warranty.
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>>723100559
>sourced article vs random anon on mongolian basket weaving forum
yeah I think I know who to believe
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>>723057479
easier than ever with guides and stuff, well just stay away from water cooling or multi gpu setups
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>>723057479
>AUD
masterful
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>>723101735
>Intel family -- 5 socket types
>AMD family -- 5 socket types
>DDR -- 4 types
>PCI -- 3 types
Easy-peasy.
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>>723057479
if you can put legos together you can build a PC.
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>>723103715
yes, pretty easy. If you are not functionally literate, you will have a bad time. But you'll have a bad time with everything in life, so that's no surprise.

Please break out of your conditioned uselessness.
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>build new pc
>have to update mb bios so it works with my 9800x3d
>update fails halfway through for some reason
>oh fuck
>simply try again
>update seems to work but now computer is stuck in a rebooting loop
>oh fuck i messed up my 2000 dollar machine
>try a bunch of shit to get it to work. Nothing helps
>as a hail marry i try the power drain trick and just hold the power button while its unplugged
>computer booted up flawlessly and works perfectly now
Ngl bros i moght retarded cause i dont understand why that of all things fixed it
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>>723104007
I didnt want to go with ryzen because of that bios update shit but luckily i didnt have this issue
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>>723057479
If your shit doesnt look like a rats nest you arent a gamer. Youre a fag who explicitly wants to show off for reddit karma & (you)'s
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>>723104007
bios updates just be like that. Every motherboard manufacturer just does the worst job imaginable at everything they can.
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>>723104007
Is it an old pc or something don't they all have bios flashback now
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>>723104007
Your fault for buying a 9800x3d as recommended by Linus race mixing tips
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>>723104007
just so you know, after a bios update it has to do ram training again. this can take anywhere from 2 minutes to 5 minutes. some retards shut off their pc early thinking its broken.
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>>723057479
Extremely easy. Been doing it since 10 years old. Learned by myself.
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>>723057479
Does anyone else here hate how pretty much every part has that RGB LED bullshit? I purposefully went out of my way to get parts that dont come with that, i dont care how my pc looks and i will never understand why people would want a window on their case instead of just getting one with some noise dampening foam. I just want a boring black box not a tacky glowing box.
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>>723104612
you can turn it off. also leds can be programmed for functions. think how a chinese handheld has leds on its analogs. the analogs turn red instead of blocking your screen saying battery low.
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>>723103881
Most people just buy ready setups, press buttons and don't give a fuck about electronic specifications that change every 3 years. Don't give people stupid advises, boy.
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>>723105085
Yes, most people are stupid and can't do anything. I know. You're programmed not to think, just to buy.
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>>723066048
lmfao I did the same thing to my old case but instead of using a hammer like a caveman I used a wrench and bend it open
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>>723057479
If you can build something recognisable out of Lego you can probably build a PC.
It's literally as simple as plugging a few items into their designated sockets.
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>>723057520
My man, just lay your PC on its side.
>>723067274
<--- Get one of these.
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>>723105162
People enjoy life, post media in socials, watch films, porn, play games, instead of figuring out, how much RAM can MB hold or how a newer OS Linux can be installed. Steven Jobs and other electronic businessmen made their billions on it.
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>>723057479
It's pretty easy but if you're like me you will stress out over every part of the process because the parts are so fucking expensive and if things fail to boot the first time you will freak out. Usually it's something stupid like the RAM wasn't seated correctly or you didn't plug something in the right port.
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>>723106601
yes, people consume instead of think, that is what I said.
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>>723058623
>>realised I had my display port plugged into the motherboard and not the gpu
Many such cases
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>>723057479
Cable management is important but not that important unless you’re building an sff pc. Mid tower and bigger are piss easy ro build nowadays except for custom water cooler systems.
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I swear, I should start a service that step by step guides /v/ users how to put PC's together over video.
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>>723107419
just send them to The Verge
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>>723057479
Probably easier than ever, you just have to be very carefull if something doesnt go in smoothly just stop and check 10 times
I bought some RAM and it had a small defect of millimeters and it wouldnt go into the slot no matter what, noticed it carefully grinded 1mm off and it went in.
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>>723104612
>i will never understand why people would want a window on their case
My CPU heat sink has a temperature display, the window lets me take a quick glance at it to see where it's at. All other lighting can kindly fuck off though.
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>>723057479
That's what gets me all the time too. You have to be pretty rough with some of the parts but it's expensive as shit and if you lack the experience you don't know what to do. Luckily I had a tech friend who built mine for me but he's not around anymore so I don't know what I will do when I upgrade.
I feel like I would have to buy some cheap parts to practice building a PC but I don't want to spend 200-300 dollars just to practice building a PC.



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