HERES YOUR MEGA FERALIGATR, BRO
>>723063883Pokeslop
>>723063883that's just feraligator with a mullet
>>723063883There’s no fucking way this is realWait nvm I checked it’s realThere will be people that will argue that you are just a blind nostalgiatard genwunner if you think this looks bad btw
>>723063883
>>723064139Surely this has to be the real explanation. I don't see any other way this design makes sense.
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>>723064283Someone posted an image from the back in another thread and yeah it's a skull helmet that comes down when he attacks. Still looks dumb when it's up though
>>723064319unfortunately it's actually 1235
Now show how it looks with the dragon skull head on instead of flipped up. This could easily end up looking awesome.
>>723063883Can we go back and pretend nothing after 3rd gen ever happened?
>>723064412>This could easily end up looking awesome.
>>723064412…
>>723064412Congratulations on HAVING A BLAST but why did they make it flip up if it looks dumb
>>723064387I can get why some people dislike gen 5 but what's wrong with gen 4? It gave us plat and hgss both of which were pretty good and there aren't many obvious problems with it.
>>7230643195 > 2 > 3 > 4 > 1
>>723064872legitimately the wild pokemon battle music was so weak that it killed the gen for me even if it wasn't actually that bad
>>723064872The game is slow as balls. Even Platinum is still fucking slow. And they make you grind like shit especially in HGSS. This wouldn't be a problem if I didn't play this game on original hardware like I do any DS game instead of fucking around with emulating two screens on my PC monitor which makes it much less simple as opposed to Gen 3.
>>723065254>they make you grindlmao, have you considered not being dogshit at the game?
>>723064974>>723064872Platinum is still my favorite in the series and I stand on that. It introduced so much shit that I enjoyed like online multiplayer and GTS. I feel like people hate gen 4 because you're SUPPOSED to hate gen 4 on the internet>b-but long battlesEvery encounter isn't a Blissey with a 252/252 spread and perfect IVs
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>>723065416The only thing I remember about HGSS is the health bar speed, is it the same in Platinum where you're watching for 10 seconds while the health of a level 50 mon is going down?
>>723064872Plat is good but I really hate the layout and design of gen 2
>>723065254>And they make you grind like shit especially in HGSSYou feel the need to grind to beat a Pokemon game?
>>723065465I maingamed a Garchomp and Dragon Dance Gyarados and shit melted. The bar speed was directly tied to the hp stat, so I ever even ran into that when fighting bulky mons. Unless you were using shitmons with bad natures and shitty 45 BP moves, the KO speed is grossly overblown online.
>>723065573>ran into that unless I was fighting bulky mons
>>723065573>The bar speed was directly tied to the hp statBut then how is it my fault for using "shitmons"? I'm talking about oneshotting the enemy pokemon and the bar takes ages to go down because they have so much HP
>>723063883Looks great, but fuck you for spoiling.Faggot.
>>723064139>arms and head for, the bottom jaw>looks like a giant totodileI get what they’re going for, but the head up looks stupid
>>723064872>but what's wrong with gen 4?Weak music in general that does evoke a sense of adventureDropped from gen 3's 60fps to 30fpsSecret bases were ruinedContests were ruinedIntroduced the dumb pokegodsMonster designs were generally clutteredGTS didn't work. The post game content in DPPT was locked to seeing every pokemon in the dexSeveral cross gens were locked to the post game in DPThere's a lot of reasons to dislike gen 4. It has more obvious problems than any other gen.
>>723065416Frankly pretty much every pokemon game is unbearably slow at default speed and they haven't done much to help this to this dayJust set the emulator to like 500% speed or something it's the definitive way to play these games
>>723065747>Introduced the dumb pokegodshuh?
>>723065694I hate, hate hateeeeeeeee people like you>new design is unveiled >its 1/10 indefensible dogshit that almost everyone agrees is awful>that one guy: DAE ACTUALLY REALLY LIKE IT??? Also I just so happen to be a Gamefreak dick rider and imo there is no such thing as a bad pokemon design :3 stop being toxic, chud
>>723065747>Weak music in general that does evoke a sense of adventureWhatGen 4's OST is the only (mainline) OST I listen to
>>723065820seethe more, manchild
>>723065801The gen 3 legends were just the focus of the story, they weren't any stronger lore wise than the birds, lugia and especially ho-oh.Dialga isn't just a time travelling pokemon it IS timePalkia IS spacerArceus is the defacto god
>>723065646I always use Yanmega as an argument in these discussions. Yanmega has a base HP of 86 and gets vaporized when one-shotted. Most pokemon above that are either legendaries or really bulky like Snorlax, Wobuffet, Slaking, and Blissey. No one is arguing that gen 4 is not slower. It IS slower, but it's also overexaggerated and everyone who shitposts that gen (not you necessarily) use bulky mons as evidence of those games being slow and bad which is a bit dishonest when the 20-25% of mons with higher hp stats than a Yanmega aren't even found by normal means or aren't in the main games at all.
>>723063883INTERIOR CROCODILE ALLIGATOR
>>723065925I suppose one's gauge of "slowness" is subjective, so this is probably a pointless argument, but I do feel that gen 4's speed problem is way overblown considering platinum and hgss
>>723065924Yeah it’s a bit ridiculous, X and Y were literally life and death and ZA shows Zygarde is the planet reset button, a living nuke.
>>723065925Anon, the whole point of gen 2 (and HGSS) is that you're fighting an E4 that has higher level pokemon than anything any of the other games haveIt doesn't matter whether the pokemon has a base HP of 50 if it's level 88, you're still sitting there for 5 seconds just watching a bar go down. It's a baffling decision, the speed at which a bar goes down should be the same at level 1 and level 100
>>723065875Lick the corpo boot harder cuckold
>>723066041>trvth nuke pokemonkino ngl
>>723066051That's actually a good point. I guess I just don't mind too much, but I have a ton of patience, so I just didn't pay that any mind when I was playing.
Looks good I'm looking forward to thursday, reviews should be out in three days
>>723065924>>723066041Anon, both Groudon and Kyogre were literally weather-controlling gods whose mere existence could lead to the end of the world. Are you a retard?
>>723066142I guarantee the reviews are going to be low but it'll be a good game.
>>723066041Mega zygarde would be cool if it looked more like the ultimate weapon shown in the XY cutscenes and less like a texture glitch cylinder
>>723066130I assume the intended effect is "HOLY SHIT THAT DUDE HAS A LOT OF HP LOOK AT THAT BAR" but that doesn't work anymore when you know you just oneshot that mon and are just waitingBut yes of course there's degrees to everything, some people got mad that every action in E33 has a little animation and I barely even noticed it when playing
>>723066181>a little rain is kind of like time space and creation
>>723063883Looks fine
>>723066242>BIBLICAL floods
>>723065747>Weak music in generalShit taste post. Also>pretending anyone cared about contests (which were still more interesting in DPPT than in RSE)Lmao. Contrarian cherrypicking tard.
>>723063883giant red ravioli
>>723066247Are the people saying this just skimming over the comically large skull lid on its back
>>723066181Anon, Zapdos, Moltres, Articuno and Lugia are also able to control the weather.Ho-oh literally resurrected Suicune, Raikou and EnteiCelebi can freely travel through time.How is that any different to Kyogre and Groudon? They aren't the embodiment of the earth and sea, they aren't gods of the fundamental aspects of the universe, they're just pokemon
>>723066308Kids did. You know, the primary audience? Not minmaxing manchildren jerking off over IVs
>>723066292god flooding the earth is nothing, so paltry that other religions have floods without having an all powerful deity
I'm glad I'm not a poketard and don't have to constantly perform mental gymnastics to defend all their shit
>>723066242>flooding the entire world and causing eternal droughts that will kill all life on earth aren't godlike powers at all
>>723066378Most legendaries can do the same so no.
>>723066362>heathens ascribe the biblical flood to their made-up deitiesno shit
>>723066012I PEE INSIDE MY FERALIGATR
>>723066353>Zapdos, Moltres, Articuno and Lugia are also able to control the weather.>Ho-oh literally resurrected Suicune, Raikou and EnteiNone of those pokemon are said to be capable of creating world ending scenarios like Groudon and (partially) Kyogre. How can you not understand this.>Celebi can freely travel through time.You mean like Dialga can?
>>723066409No they can't you disingenuous retard, lmao.
>>723066485>You mean like Dialga can?That's quite literally unironically not an argument when the whole point of discussion is which gen invented pokegods
I really only care about my nigga Scrafty desu and he looks fresh af
>>723064412pokefags are so pathetic its not even funny at this point
>>723065924>The gen 3 legends were just the focus of the story, they weren't any stronger lore wise than the birdsThe lore of the gen 3 games was that you HAD to stop the box legendaries from causing the end of the world. You didn't have to do that back in the previous gens. You retard.
Where the fuck do I get NDS roms from nowadays?t. not a Nintendo employee trying to get sites banned
>>723066485>None of those pokemon are said to be capable of creating world ending scenarios like Groudon and (partially) KyogreExcept for, you know, lugia who can create a region wide storm with a SINGLE flap of it's wings. Kyogre and Groudon couldn't do that when they were awakened their abilities didn't spread to the whole region.>You mean like Dialga can?No, Celebi can travel through time.Dialga IS time. Time doesn't exist without Dialga.Do you understand the difference?
>>723066201Idk most of the previews have been pretty positive so it'll probably be reviewed like Arceus at least
>>723066610In other words, the gen 3 legends were just the focus of the story, they weren't any stronger lore wise than the birds
>>723066610gen 3 legends powered up by team magma/aqua
>>723066616just dig around, you best dig for full romsets (probably)it's not hardat the very worse, just find a torrentleech invite, they open every other week or someshitand leech a fuckload of rom packs (nes > wii u, all the playstation n shit) then just fuck off
>>723066529Jfc you're an actual moron.
>>723066610You're confusing story and lore you fucking moron.
>>723066628>Except for, you know, lugia who can create a region wide storm with a SINGLE flap of it's wings.That literally doesn't happen, lmao. You're literally pulling your headcanon out of your ass. >Dialga IS time. Time doesn't exist without Dialga.That's never stated in the games.
>>723066713Pokeballs actually limit the strength of the Pokémon caught so trainers can’t destroy time and space or cause floods
>>723066830>It sleeps in a deep-sea trench. If it flaps its wings, it is said to cause a 40-day storm. What, you're now saying Pokedex entries don't count because they BTFO your argument?
>>723066673Lorewise they were clearly more powerful because Hooh and Lugia never created any sort of world ending scenarios. Even the whole revival thing with Hooh is mostly just a legend within the game. You're a pathetic retard kek. >>723066729Story is part of the lore, you retard.
>>723066901He's trying to say that the god of time isn't the god of time because it isn't explicitly stated in game despite the game saying Dialga is the representation of time in game.He's actually retarded.
>>723066840You know, I never really thought about it but the next time I play a pokeymen game I'll get a slight sense of amusement when some team rocket fag brings out his level 15 rattata and I counter by attacking with the literal god who made the universe
>>723066901The actual story that happens in the game matters more than pokedex entries which are bullshit and inconsistent 90% of the time. >>723066628Also Kyogre flooding the whole world is more significant than Lugia causing "region wide" storms.
>>723063883Eh, I only like pokemon that are legit retarded, this one is just bad.
>>723066906>Story is part of the lore, you retard.No, no it isn't.Story is what you as the player experience.Lore is additional information that doesn't necessarily have any relevance to the story.We don't see Ho-oh revive the beasts but we know that happened making it loreWe are a part of the awakening of Groudon and Kyogre, we see that happening that makes it the story.Understand?
>>723067026>pokemon that are legit retardedexamples?
>>723067023>Also Kyogre flooding the whole world is more significant than Lugia causing "region wide" storms.And yet we never see Kyogre flooding the world, according to you that means it's weaker than Lugia.
>>723066956No, I'm saying you're a braindead moron for thinking gen 4 introduced pokegods when gen 3 already legendaries who could end most/all life on earth by simply waking up. You're an embarrassing retard.
>>723067097You are right in terms of gen 3 drastically increasing the power scaling but you also have to admit the difference between endless rain and fucking god itself
>>723067097Yeah sure, that's why you're having a temper tantrum right now, not because you're precious gen 4 is being criticised.
>>723066956>reddit spacingKek, of course. No wonder you're so retarded.
>>723065747>Weak music in general that does evoke a sense of adventurebait, gen 4 has the best OSThttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dLLDvcp4lsM
>>723067175Does it say in gen 4 that Arceus made the entire universe or was that new lore added later?t. never played itAlso why are its stats so boring then, it should have 300 in every stat
>>723067050>lore>a body of traditions *and* knowledge on a subject or held by a particular group, *typically* passed from person to person by word of mouthYou're genuinely an illiterate retard. And even going by your definition, Groudon and Kyogre still have more impressive feats than anything from previous gens, because the "lore" from previous legendaries never said that they could end the world.Pokemonfags are so fucking braindead, holy shit.
>>723066552Why'd he do it?
>>723067097Dude, pokemon have been on that level well before gen 3. Even if they were then they would still be terrestrial level at best.Time and space are concepts that embody the entire universe and Arceus is THE god. Even if you think Kyogre and Groudon can destroy the planet how it's that the same as having the potential to destroy the universe and start it from scratch like cyrus was planning?
>>723067247It's simply stated that that's what "mythology says". Even the dex says that.
>>723067247>Does it say in gen 4 that Arceus made the entire universeyeah
>>723063883NuPokeslop is just "WHAT IF THING ON POKE IS LONGER OR BIGGER"
>>723067339>googled definitionOh, you're a spic. You should have just said that in the first place.
>>723067401Well to be fair, if the designated in-game lore device says so, it's true. Same as an item description in Dark Souls going "it is said that..."
Starting White 2 for the first time ever, what am I in for?
>>723065446>It's not like this is a highlight for me either
>>723066221There's an indescribable rsge that this post just woke up in me.>battle frontier>YOUR OPPONENT HELD ON WITH FOCUS SASH>*another mon barely survives*>sitrus berry>leftovers, drifblim, snorlax, and dusknoir in general>online>slowking, skarmory, ludicolo, and the other stall-starsGen 4 online and post-game were legitimate tests of patience.
>>723067356Because it's objectively true that gen 3 was the one that started the "overpowered legendaries with godlike powers that shit on everything that came before them", so it's retarded to see people constantly blame gen 4 for doing that. >pokemon have been on that level well before gen 3Also not true, there is literally no pre gen 3 Mon that was said to be able to cause the end of the world. You had stuff like Mewtwo who was just a strong lab experiment and Hooh who revived the dogs (which is mostly a myth), and that's about it.
>>723067247>In the beginning, there was only a churning turmoil of chaos.>At the heart of chaos, where all things became one, appeared an Egg.>Having tumbled from the vortex, the Egg gave rise to the Original One.>From itself, two beings the Original One did make.>Time started to spin. Space began to expand.>From itself again, three living things the Original One did make.>The two beings wished, and from them, matter came to be.>The three living things wished, and from them, spirit came to be.>The world created, the Original One took to unyielding sleep...You could argue this as Myth but the fact Arceus and create a fresh creation trio member from scratch alongside the plates existing in the first place only supports the fact Arceus is god
>>723067683Where's the part about it fucking humans
Why is everyone disregarding the cool grounded legendaries from these same gens>ancient golems>just an alien>hyper-rare pair of dolphins (but they're dragons)>heatran is just a rare species like manaphy (I guess)
does anybody actually use legendaries in their team? I never use a mon that isn't at least medium slow levelling speed
>>723067871Never made it in the game, this is the closest poke fuckers got
>>723068013I like to use regirock because of the design
>>723064872Funnily enough Diamond was my reintroduction to Pokemon after never finishing Sapphire years prior, and I hated everything about it. Most of Sinnoh's Pokemon look ugly to me and still do, all the gen 1 Pokemon that gained evolutions are just obese (though I'd eventually come to like some of them like Rhyperior and Magnezone), battles are slow, having Bibbarel on my team 90% of the game fucking sucked. By that point in time I was sick of seeing gen 1 and 2 Pokemon everywhere so Pokemon Black locking all previous gen Pokemon was a breath of fresh air to me... only skip Black 2 becuase it brought all previous gen Pokemon back because I guess not having Pikachu for a game makes people have a heart attack or want to kill themselves.
I’m not even exaggerating when I say that I, someone who has never used blender or any kind of 3D modeling software, could easily make that shit. What were they fucking thinking?
>>723068098That literally applies to all of the leaked megas. This was the one thing that I did not expect to see them cut corners, but woops
>>723063883People always gloss over the fact that the designs are only bad because of how big the fakemon community is. The most obvious designs that make the most sense have already been made by some OC donut steal fag and the community will cry and attack GF with misinformation and slander if a GF design looks like a fakemon even in passing.
>>723065801Unironically just folklore monsters. Really strong ones, but Mewtwo would lorewise be stronger.
at least they can still make musichttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nFxDzFg_eFchttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tst-2z7420whttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ugyONbAGE8Ehttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Pvm5yDtaGiYhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PQMf4ezKdJkhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LE30s3d7W-w
>>723067051The keys are great, unironically.
>>723067673>Because it's objectively true that gen 3 was the one that started the "overpowered legendaries with godlike powers" The problem with the logic is that if you consider weather control a "godlike" ability then you can't say that gen 3 started it since they've existed since gen 1 hell if you want to take the anime into account Mewtwo was controlling the weather there too. Needless to say we've had multiple instances of that type of ability.In other words, if you believe gen 3 started it, you would have to believe gen 1 started it for the same reason since the only difference is the fact that it wasn't the focus of the story. >Hooh who revived the dogs (which is mostly a myth)Anon, it was an event from 100 years prior not some ancient lore. There were eyewitnesses to the death and rebirth of the beasts.I don't understand why you're so defensive about this. When the gen 4 games released no one had a problem with saying that it introduced Gods to pokemon lore.
>>723067960What are you even talking about right now?
>>723064139Frogzard if he blue
>>723065292Its my fucked up compulsion to have my Pokemon exactly mirror the opponent's team. My starter being the highest level of the opponent. Not one higher and not one lower
>>723063883What is the fuck? I was waiting for a Godzilla-like mega-evolution, not.... whatever the fuck this is.
>>7230643191 > 3 > 2 > 5 >>>>>>4>>>>>>>>>>>>slop
>>723068982It's totodile you blind fuck
>>723068883>Anon, it was an event from 100 years prior not some ancient lore. There were eyewitnesses to the death and rebirth of the beasts.Nta but it’s mostly a myth, there are also multiple legendary beasts
>>723068982It's cubone you blind fuck
>>723067960Heatran was originally supposed to be the last of a 3-stage fire/steel line, but his first two stages never got finalized and they shunted him into a cave as a legendary.Honestly pretty unfortunate, DP really coulda used a midgame fire type.
>>723068076>not having Pikachu for a game makes people have a heart attack or want to kill themselves.It's actually Magikarp and Gyarados, the only pokemon with a near perfect record of being in games.
>>723069043Anon, that's like saying world war 1 was a myth, also no one said there weren't multiple beasts. They weren't created by Ho-oh, they were always the beasts before they died.
>>723069196Pikachu is in every game as well, people just don't count gen 5 because they don't understand the difference between "unobtainable in the main game" and "unobtainable"
>>723069204>world war 1 was a mythYes.
>>723063883It's a toilet bowl
>controlling the weather is a godlike powerIn that case, it was Gen 2 that introduced pokegods. And it's all of them.
>>723069375Feragtolet10 chars is still the limit yeah?
>>723064412Pretty much this. It's like some faggot leaked the worst possible pose possible.
Lugia was a local sea monster and Ho-oh was a lesser Kami in terms of how they're presented in the story of their gamesyou need to go out of your way to even find themMeanwhile Groudon and Kyogre have the plot literally revolve around them and are actively presented as a world ending threat
Why are EVs so gay?
>>723070497It was only there to make your Pokémon different, not to be grinded out by minmaxxing eugenics fags
>>723064872>saving a lot of data>battles are slow as molasses>dex selection (lmao fire types) for DPThat said it had the postgame island even in DP which is more than games that came out after the DS era can say and HGSS are the gold standard for how remakes should be done (besides its flaws inherent to the DP engine)I don't hate gen 4, I actually quite like it, I'd rank it above everything after the DS era, but the other gens have one or two things that eke it out
>>723070608>train your high spatk water or grass mon against rock and ground mons>they all give atk EVsgay
>>723070663meant for >>723070551
>>723065747>Weak music in generalI agree with the rest but what the fuck are you smoking, it's inarguably the best aspecthttps://youtu.be/GPvji52ciMghttps://youtu.be/mYfWW-5Ufmchttps://youtu.be/tK1PWoWdUXYhttps://youtu.be/NqXq3_2SI1whttps://youtu.be/SE5dBmWml34https://youtu.be/I_57ptO3TKchttps://youtu.be/cho2NsCKZZchttps://youtu.be/rXefFHRgyE0
>>723069887Which means they all have incredible powers but aren't gods like Dialga and Palkia
>>723065747No one posted any good music from gen 4.
>>723066041why did he turn into a fag and lift some kind of dude weed lmao bong?
>>723067530A fuckton of contentGreat musicSolid pokemon selection one of the better entries in the series really
>>723071053I recommend taking your brother's dick out of your ear then
>>723069204>They weren't created by Ho-oh, they were always the beasts before they died.Were they the beasts they are now? Or are they turned into the beasts they are now? What were they originally?
>>723070951or gods like Groudon and Kyogre They literally created the lands and seas, that's divine power
>>723067530for the love of god, restart the game and activate challenge mode use a gameshark code if need be to do so
>>723071359>What were they originally?The beasts were always the beasts.They didn't have a name until the burned tower incident so people (see: retards) thought that meant Ho-oh transformed pokemon into them.
>>723071441>or gods like Groudon and KyogreWho aren't gods. Just powerful ancient pokemon. They also didn't create the land and sea.
>>723071760According to the internal dev lore they actually did create the sea and land, nothing in the games say this though
>>723071525Won't that be too hard
>>723065747TRVKE
>>723063883Obviously Deen and Eric and the snoys designed it to sabotage the game because they work for pocket pair. Or only they hate it, and we need to defend it. What's the agenda, folks?
>>723071525>challenge modeIt increases opponent levels but not stats, so with the exp curve in gen 5 you actually get more XP and the game becomes easier than in normal mode, retard
>>723071876The Post Gen IV internal dev lore*, i.e. the beginning of nuPokemon.
>>723072009it changes movesets and EV's on all important trainers normal trainers have never been a challenge in any pokemon game ever
>>723071760>game says they created land and sea>devs say they created land and sea>every piece of promotional media says they created land and sea>"they' didn't create the land and sea"
>>723063883>uridile
>>723071525Looked up an AR code and Hugh's Snivy is now level 9 instead of 8Can't wait to get raped by all the gyms
>>723065747The Dialga/Palkia battle is the most kino moment in the series. Especially if you fight them in the late afternoon so the background is dusky.
The absolute state of pokemon
>>723072515it's mostly gyms that change, gym leaders have an extra pokemon, all their pokemon have items and they have improved movesets
>>723071876>According to the internal dev lore they actually did create the sea and landThere's no internal lore like that by the way.
Surprised it hasn't been dumped yet, but no worries cause I'm still obsessed with FFT right now. In end of Chapter 2 finally.
>>723072537There is no Dialga/Palkia battle.
>>723063883I hate Gamefreak so fucking much it's unbelievable.
>>723074132Just don't use the Mega then you fucking pansy.
>>723063883>do millions of cool eeveelution design>gamefreak reveal in the leaks they can't make any new eeveelution because all the design they created look a lot like some fanart>fans still in some way keep creating a lot of cool mega evolutions design>the same fans now complain why gamefreak can only release really basic bitch and lame designThis is our fault
>>723063883>Urinalgator
>>723063883>>723064139We desperately need to see this fucking thing in motion.
>>723063937FPBP
>>723074319it's over
It's Feraligatr with a retarded oversized helmet.Why is this a thing.Who thought this was a good idea.Why did they think that.I don't understand.
>>723075862>Why is this a thing.Cause it's a good idea>Who thought this was a good idea.I did
>>723075886Back to the basement, Masuda
>>723075862>he doesn't know
>>723064371>Someone posted an image from the back in another threadCan someone post it here?
>>723076034Masuda hasn't been at gamefreak for years
>>723077210Not the same thing at all.That's Druddigon's actual head and it fits the rest of the body.This is Feraligatr wearing an oversized helmet that JUST looks ridiculous.
>>723075862Why are people calling this a Helmet? It's clearly something strapped to the back, not the head.
I like it
>>723077742Because it's supposed to come down over the head
>>723064139>Mega evolution>Reverts to the base form???
>>723077742>Why are people calling this a Helmet?Because that's what it looks like.>It's clearly something strapped to the back, not the head.Covering Feraligatr's whole head.Kind of like... you know.A helmet.
>>723077742Because it literally is a helmet
>>723077742I think it's cause it's a helmet
>>723077806>>723077987>>723078043You wouldn't call an umbrella glued to a backpack a 'helmet'
>>723078117see >>723064139
>>723063883So what's its ability? Dragon's Maw? Strong Jaw?
>>723078117You would however call apparatus that goes over the head that's attached to a backpack a helmet
>>723078182PLA didn't have abilities so we probably won't know until gen 10 or that mobile game
>>723064139>>723078167There is no way this is real, not even Gamefreak would be that stupid to make this happen it's just big totodile.
>>7230643191234TURTLES
>>723078332>PLA didn't have abilitiesIt actually did.There's abilities still set in the code for each species. GF just NOP'd out most of the ability effects save for a specific few like Regigigas' or Cherrim's.
>>723078415MUTANT CHAIN REACTION
>>723066221Like FFXII which people insist is unplayable without the ADHD speedup feature in the remaster when I beat everything just fine on the PS2 version. Everyone's attention spans have been fried the moment Netflix let everyone speed watch movies. The new generation is fucked because of this
>>723068013I have a set team I decide on before each new playthrough of a particular game. Legendaries feel like cheating to me
>>723064139This doesn't make it better, its actually more stupid
>>723078117I mean you just make the design sound even more fucking stupid, so good job.
>>723077742>>723078117>He doesn't know the design gets even more stupid lookingTo live in such blissful ignorance
>>723077897they were taking "mega as pre-evo's traits reemerged" too far
>>723064412God the cope from Pokefaggots is next level, no other fanbase can compete
>>723074278that's the whole selling point of the whole game though fagatron
>>723077245>Can someone post it here?
>>723066041Cool concept, middling execution. Digimon did it better 25 years ago.
>>723078645>tfw even in a game (effectively) without abilities regigigas gets fuckedWhy did they do it
>>723081104This guy was so cool that the guy who made this short film remade it into an actual film because he didn’t want his concept to die with digimon
Everytime I see something new about ZA I get less excited for it. I think the thing that cratered it was the Kalos starters megas being locked behind ranked pvp seasonal bullshit.
>>723081104Diablomon doesn't use the same concept the fuck are you talking about?
>>723063883>just normal feraligatr with a giant lid glued on
How is it that the first legendary they made still remains the coolest concept to this very day?
>>723081360>oh no he's gonna launch a nuke and destroy us allsame shit
>>723081521He’s the antithesis for the whole franchise, being friends with creatures of nature who help you fight vs a artificial creature made by man forced to fight.Mewtwo is the opposite of what the series pushes
>>723064319>>7230643871245, fuck off gbabbies.
>>723081585Are you retarded?
>>723081813
>>723081521Stolen from Mother.
>>723081521>How is it that the first legendary they made still remains the coolest concept to this very day?It isn't, deoxys took his crown years ago.Even did his whole artifical pokemon shtick better
So glad I jumped ship for Digimon this year
>>723081989>pokefag buys other games out of spite rather than loveNever stops being true.
>>723081983I'm too lazy to look it up but I remember whichever game I played had the speed version (useless) and I'm still mad
I'm still upset the fake sinnoh remakes robbed us of a proper remixed soundtrack
>>723082147That would be EmeraldLeaf Green was defenseFire Red was attackRS had the normal form
>>723082196>fake sinnoh remakesqrd?
>>723082291NTA, but a lot of people don't like BDSP, the DP remakes.
>>723081983deoxys is cool, but the fact he's a space alien sorta ruins his whole conceptand still doesn't quite give that same feeling as mewtwo does, of being so obviously different but in a restrained way
>>723082053Pokemon sucks can't blame them
>>723081983>shtick
>>723081983I think defense form is my favorite
are all of the new megas just shit? Megas were always a bit retarded looking but this is ridiculous
>>723081989SEX WITH KANON
>>723081989digimon designs started at a level pokemon is only now sinking to they're the definition of overdesigned crap
>>723082608Mega Zygarde is alright but he’s the selling point so you’d fucking hope he was
>>723082053>pokemon games have been garbage for 12 years and get drastically worse each game>People move on to other series that are higher quality>spiteful niggas - you don't enjoy things you are petty and mean!
>>723082473>but the fact he's a space alien sorta ruins his whole conceptThe fact that it's an alien ruins the concept of a mutant space virus from space?I don't think you quite understand what you're talking about anon.
>>723081989Based
>>723082608>are all of the new megas just shit?No. There's a number of them that are pretty good, like Chandelure's, Hawlucha's, Chesnaught's.
>>723065756there's romhacks that speed the hp bars up too.
>>723082549Of course you can, only pokemon only faggots think that pokemon is bad because they don't know what the other tamers are doing so you get dipshits playing their first game that isn't pokemon going WOWOW THIS GAME IS TOTES AMAZEBALLS! when it's extremely mediocre by comparison and only has graphics or something holding it up.
>>723082678>Mega Zygarde is alrightUhh...
>>723082698it's just another bit of trying too hard to be cool by making him an alien space virus which is a very real issue with a lot of legendaries, they just try too hard to make them cool
>>723082989Anon that doesn't mean anything
>>723081521The movie, obviously.frankly, i don't think any other pokemon is anywhere near in terms of actually considering him a person instead of either an animal, a machine, or a force of nature.except possibly team rocket's meowth but he's decidedly on the not-cool side
>>723082825That doesn't change the fact that Pokemon games suck now
>>723082989As opposed to being a genetically modified foetus?
>>723082826I like the whole nuke thing, I think it’s a smart way of explaining why Zygarde is the one that puts the others in their place. Him having a way to stop overpopulation/mass death via mutually assured destruction is cool
>>723083272I haven't cared about the lore of Pokémon in ages.It just looks funny, idk. I hope we get good quality pictures soon.
>>723082826I wish they just made it an even bigger Megazord thing this is kind of whatever
>>723083272>a way to stop overpopulationDELETE THIS ANTI-INDIAN SENTIMEENT SAAAR
>>723083148Anon, you'd only think they suck if you only played pokemon because you're not comparing pokemon to the competitors you're comparing pokemon to pokemon.Take the outcry over dexit for instance, dexit is an issue with pokemon and Pokemon alone because it was the only monster tamer to make every monster available in every game up until that point.
>>723082687>pokemon games have been garbage for 12 years
LEAK THE ROM
>>723071359>What were they originally?
>>723083875It's insane how terrible every single one of these betas is aside from tigerball.
>Playing USUM >Cutscenes…Oh boy, is the whole thing straight lines and talking?
>>723084006Mhm. Lots of handholding and you cannot skip them even on second playthroughs.Enjoy.
>>723083973Beta Octillery is the best thing ever
>>723084072>Hau just picked starter that was weaker than me?????Game freak, are they really scared kids could give up if he picked the stronger one? Lmao glad I pirated this
>>723065924>The gen 3 legends were just the focus of the story, they weren't any stronger lore wise than the birds, lugia and especially ho-oh.they literally had the power to flood/dry the entire earth
>>723084102Looks like it's hatching from an egg, which is dumb.
>>723084169Anon, they were talking about that like five hours ago.Shut the fuck up and stop being so butthurt that someone shat on your precious gen 4.
>>723083829Here>>58381132
>>723084490yes and it was 1 idiot saying they weren't that powerful and everyone else pointing out he was an idiot
>>723084156Yes actually. Around ORAS they revealed they had a weird fear of kids getting frustrated and returning to smartphone games.
>>723084675nigger
>>723084675Oh FUCK
>>723084490>uh my posts are 5 hours old you can't reply to them>you aren't allowed to disagree with meAre you a newfag?
>>723084675faggot
>>723084918He's the spic trying to bury his embarrassing defeat.
>>723084931That Anon doesn't know how to crosspost, please don't bully him.>>>/vp/58381132
>>723085091Yeah I just knew it was from vp and copied it, no need to bully them lol
>>723085091>It's realI concede
>>723082989>it's just another bit of trying too hard to be cool by making him an alien space virusAs opposed to le edgy experiment that ran away and stays alone to suppress its extreme power?
>>723085091Thanks now I can test out how shit this game really is, fuck you Nintendo
funny thing is that despite everything it seems that even arceus can't resurrect the dead while ho-oh can
>>723085091uh, i tought it was a SW2 game. May play it after the performance mods.
>>723084682>and it was 1 idiot saying they weren't that powerful and everyone else pointing out he was an idiotWhy lie about that when you can see that it was just you calling them gods? >>723067097You have three different people replying to you here.
>>723085482It's on Switch 1 and Switch 2
>>723063883Were Megan'salways this bad?I remember enjoying the majority in Gen 6; is it just nostalgia?So many of these new ones are insultingly bad, what the fuck are they doing, or trying to convey? I think Hawlucha is the only one I like this time.
Did Mega Falinks leak yet?
>>723085575Gen 6 had its share of shit megas but for entirely different reasons than the garbage ones we're getting nowGen 6's bad megas were largely just busy and pointlessly spiky. The current bad megas are incomprehensibly bad concepts>>723085585Technically >>723085476
>>723085575>Were Megan'salways this bad?yeah
No....
>>723081908A bunch of GF's original staff were ex-APE employees, they stole it from themselves.
>>723085804It was dumb that a sheep became this dragon thing to begin with.
>>723085804I kind of like it. 7/10. It's nothing compared to say Victreebell.
>>723085824ENTER
>>723085824Ayo, what the FUCK?!
>>723085824This is just truly unbelievable. I 100% believe they are fucking with Pokemon fans. They laugh every time Joe Merrick logs on to Twitter dot com to defend shit like this
>>723085575Nah, most of the bad Megas in 6 were just overdone. Stuff like Mega Aerodactyl and Garchomp were bad because they took a strong design and make it hard to look at. While the good ones feel like reasonable additions or the next evolutionary step for that concept (Audino, Absolm Mawile, Lucario, Ampharos, Pidgeot).Megas here in Z-A are VERY hit-or-miss, there's a clearly different design intention and goals with them that doesn't work out. Instead of adding something to make them more "metal" or standout or following a logical extreme, Z-A Megas are more about exaggerating a pre-existing trait that can either make them really good (Hawlucha, Delphox, or Emboar) or incredibly goofy (Chandelure, Malamar, STARMIE). Megas as a whole are going to be hit-or-miss by their very nature, but Z-A seems to...not get why people wanted them back? At least with these pretty rough screenshots and not seeing them in action.
>>723063883>push slop>try to patent slop>Now I that I have a monopoly, I will get even lazier with my slopHow low can they get?
>>723085824Lmfao wtf were they thinking?
>>723082826Platinum should sue, that's just Platinum Robo using Shirogane's Comet to whipe out the GEATHJERK Federation in Wonderful 101.
>>723086270>Our fans are animals, feed them slop.
>>723082652Although I think pokemon and digimon are comparable I don't think there's design philosophy are.In-training>Rookie>Champion is comparable to pokemon lines but digimon asks what comes after that? And then it asks that question again and the answer is usually godzilla>DBZ character
>Darkrai mega confirmed Fffffuuuck bros I'm so scared... the only other gen 4 mega for ZA is Froslass which from the descriptions looks cool af.
>>723085824This is so bad it wraps around to be funny. Like Dudunsparse.
I don't know but the mega old dragon looks actually good in my opinion.
Here's your new Megas lmao
>>723086713If this is real, yeah. He looks alright. Angry storm cloud.
>>723086854Starmie can NOT be fucking real. I can't comprehend how Flygon had "artist block" but that Starmie gets through.
>>723082652pokebabs are so scared of monsters with actual detail, that's why you keep getting blobs with smiley faces and rehashes of old designs
>>723086854Wtf did they do to Excadrill?!?!
>>723086854Gamefreak is fucking with pokefags, this is shit a bad fan pokemon hack would make. This has to be a massive ruse.
>>723064319>remember when 4 was the death of the series and the worst game everOpinions on 5 are already mostly positive literally everywhere but veepee, i wonder how many years itll be until fucking gen 6 is largely considered great
>>723086854Clefable has a giant tumor on its head?
>>723086854So instead of making mostly cool Megas like they did in XY they went with making making most the Megas look goofy this time
NOT A HELMET fags btfo
>>723085824mega starmie my beloved
>>723086854>Kalos starter megas locked behind seasonal bullshitAnd people defend this shit.
>>723087341kekYeah I'm taking Totodile.
Do all new Pokémon games have cutscene spam like USUM?
>>723085476Better quality one.
>>723086854>Zygarde can just mega into its giant robot formFuck yeah that shit is so cool but it was so hard to win with Zygarde in Swsh
>>723064139>>723087341So Feraligatr's mega is just him dressing up as his previous baby form? Why?
>>723087498Shiny variants.
>>723085891It's a pun mega anon. It's Japanese name is denryuDenki = electricityRyu = dragon
>>723087550That's all people remember his line for anyways literally JUST Totodile.
>>723085804I dont get why everyone shit on mega amph gor getting hair WHEN HES LITERALLY A SHEEP. Hes the only one where growing hair makes sense>>723085891Something something japanese bullshit dont think about it too much
>>723087550Looks like it uses the disguise to bait prey in with its cuteness before eating them
>>723087480No, they backed off cutscenes after Gen 7 got mixed reception in Japan. Gen 8 has story stuff but it's not really prevalent until the last hour. Gen 9 has more cutscenes than 8 but it's really front/back loaded.
>>723087115Probably never, since Gen 6 just didn't got anything that actively fixed its problems. ORAS was mainly a sidegrade, overall an improvement but had its own assortment of dealbreakers for people. Meanwhile, for all its own problems, BW2 was such a big step above BW1 in the gameplay department, people can just enjoy it. Having things like a real postgame (if the Battle Maison doesn't count, the Battle Subway REALLY doesn't. Also if you had White you were just FUCKED on money...), a better selection of mons, less linearity, more sidecontent, it was just a way better game than ORAS was.I like Gen 6 a lot, it is still the second-most played gen (and I played a lot of Gen 3 ROMhacks), but it is very flawed thanks to being rushed for the 3DS. Any form of revisionism is going to get a lot of pushback, far more than Gen V revision does. No one slanders N the same way they do the Gen 6 Friend Group.>>723087341That's actually pretty damn cool. Some of these Megas, for as much I shittalk them, I do want to see in motion, given how important their animations are this time around compared to Gen 6.
>>723087341>four armsThat's actually kind of cool.
>>723087591>it's a pun cuz he has a sister named Roll!I don't think Japs actually know what a pun is.
>>723086854God starmie looks so fucking bad holy shit.
>>723087341This is actually good? You really need to see him wearing the head first.
>>723087341Ngl bros i like the concept... the 4 arms is a bit weird though
>>723086854Skarmory has been replaced by Corviknight in the recent generations and now he's FUCKING PISSED
Will Pokémon ever stop being popular?
>>723086854that's it? are there no new mons at all? just this handful of in-combat form changes?
>>723087813ENTER
>>723087974>we want the earthbound audience
>>723087974>Starman poseKEK
>>723087550Because nu gen design must be funny and ebin and goofy
>>723087974It's fucking starman.That instantly redeemed it for me.
>>723065801Gen 3 legendaries are just weatherfags.
>>723087974losing my mind
>>723087974THIS IS SO EPIC IT'S LIKE STARMAN FROM MOTHER DID YOU GET THE REFERENCE
>>723088052>>723088059>>723088074Oldfags>>723088112Zoomer
>>723087957Megas are effectively new mons not sure what else youre expecting man. If its taking place in the modern day in a city youve already explored they can exactly just say "ohh these new regional forms from a region youve already been too were hiding in a basement teehee"
>>723087550Reminder that Feraligatr learns Fake Tears.
>>723088193yes, they could
>>723087957Depending on how you view stuff like Kleavor, it wasn't like Legends: Arceus had new mons either. The game isn't supposed to be Gen X, it is strictly another in-house spin-off that tests different concepts and feeds back into the new game. Regional Formes do play radically different and have more longevity than Megas, so I do get the indifference to just getting more Megas. But also...the game always said "This is the game with new Megas, never ask us for anything again".>>723087974Still don't know how I feel about this. It does look better than the 144p webcam screenshots of it mid-walk frame, but it still feels like a big waste. Starmie never felt like something that needed legs.
This thread was made by Eric. He's a giant OoT fanboy and snoy that's spamming /v/ with anti-Nintendo pedaling for a good decade, he's a weekly villain in Famitsu threads and he reports them over and over for calling him out or for spreading facts he thinks needs to be hidden from /v/ (namely sales of Nintendo hardware and software compared to PlayStation and Steam)If you see posts saying Sonic CrossWorlds is better than Mario Kart, World, it's Eric. If you see posts saying GameCube games are better than Switch games, it's Eric. If you see the same anti-Nintendo threads popping up over and over, it's Eric. If you see the same posts shilling piracy and emulators, it's Eric. If you see someone denying the existence of Eric and calling him a made-up boogeyman, it's Eric. If you see someone unironically using terms like "tendies" or "Switchfags" and making hyperbolic statements, it's Eric. If you see a red OP image with a Nintendo-related thing, asking some dumb open question, it's Eric. If you see the same repeated lines over and over again, it's Eric samefagging. If you see a massive wall of replies to one post, it's Eric samefagging himself, they'll all be a minute apart. He's always resetting his router and ban evading, and flooding the catalog.He's also a massive GameCube fanboy that was so buckbroken by BotW's commercial and critical success that he's determined to make it the most despised game in history, he wants to change the narrative and erase the perceived damage against him
>>723087341You just know their going to give this thing strong jaw even though it has no good moves to abuse it>crunch, ice fangLame as fuck
>>723087974>Does the starman poseSo there's still someone left with Sovl at GF....
>>723087974Its not a starman reference and I'm not laughing
>>723088261Never design a long running game series
>>723088298Shut the fuck up nigga
>>723087974>>723087341HOLY SOVL
723088428You first, Eric.
>>723088428Actually reading and replying to the schizo babble
>>723087974kek i like it
>>723088468I know >Don't reply to baitBut I did it anyway, Fanboys need to fuck off
>>723087974Meme starman pose aside it really feels like GameFreak didn't even try with this one
723088468>Eric replying to his own postsShut the fuck up, Eric.
>>723088528You see its a reference so its actually cool and epic
>>723088528I find the concept of Starmie just becoming more humanlike interesting, but it could have used maybe just a bit more detail.
>Xernas/Yveltal RemixHOLY FUAAAAAAARKhttps://vocaroo.com/1ntN2TddsUJb
>>723088265>so I do get the indifference to just getting more MegasI mean, yea, not to say arceus was anything exciting but new forms and evos are at least palpable when megas are just a slight combat upgrade which, let's be real, unless you want to see the animation in each battle, you'll realistically only even use them in boss fights
It's always funny how you'll have these people who get SO upset because Pokemon are monsters rather than animals>N-no this is based off something in pop culture that's not realistic reeeee
>>723088397as long as it was gamefreak you'd defend it anyway
>>723088393Whats the term for being willfully in denial. I think its cope
>>723088740>i said something retarded so that makes you a gamefreak shillKay
>>723088857yes, you said something retarded so that makes you a gamefreak shill
>>723088397To his credit, it's not like every regional form had real meaning. Alolan Raichu got that way from eating too many pancakes and being loved. Alolan Exeggecutor became a dragon because of excess UV radiation. We already have a timeskip, so you can just bullshit some reasons, especially with how many uncharted places there was in XY.Again, there is some debate on how much you can consider Regional Formes as "new mons". And convergent evos like Kleavor are definitely a weeeiiirrrdddd case. But it is silly to expect brand new mons in a game like the Legends titles, especially given how weird they have to be to accommodate the different systems.>>723088713There is also an additional bit with Megas COMING BACK, so to say. With Champions coming, and this game having its own multiplayer suite, you will be using Megas a lot more than just boss fights. The idea of getting real support on a gimmick that people thought was two-and-done is very exciting in its own right.And the Plus Move system does push you into using Megas for more general combat, too. Since it comes from the same bar as just using individual attacks on such, might as well pop it.
https://pomf.tv/stream/Kannalo im streaming if anyone wants to watch
>>723088946I do hope they implement some way to just at least start battles with mega turned on in general play as a toggle, that was always my biggest issue with the system
>>723088946>There is also an additional bit with Megas COMING BACK, so to say. With Champions coming, and this game having its own multiplayer suite, you will be using Megas a lot more than just boss fights. The idea of getting real support on a gimmick that people thought was two-and-done is very exciting in its own right.I hate that this shit is coming back, I never liked megas they completely warp team building in a way that's not fun
>>723085824Kino
>>723087341Still looks fucking stupid
Is there a full picture of Mega Skarmory and Excaladril to know if they suck or not?(Not just their heads like in the image with all Megas)
>>723089271I kind of agree in a vacuum. I always felt, even as a kid, Megas were way too overcentralizing. There is really no good way to pivot or experiment with them, especially with the HUGE gaps in power between something like Salamance and AUDINO. But in a big battle sim like Champions where you have access to all gimmicks and pit them against each other, it is a lot more feasible and malleable. Running a Mega and a G-Max on the same squad means you have real diversity in options without needing to change the entire team. Plus in something like Legends, the different mechanics and ideas means you there is far less teambuilding considerations, so I'm fine as is.I still prefer THE IDEA of mechanics like D-Max, general power boosts that helps any composition of 6 mons than just one dude and his la squadra of jobbers (since god D-Max was bad). But also I can't say it isn't exciting to see more megas and their potential abilities when they are free from Legends.
>bing bing bozos still waiting to play their shitty pokemon shovelware at 360p>pc chads already playing at 4k>its fucking trash worse than a $5 steam game
>>723089647>pokeslop is garbage as alwayssurprising!
>>723089112cant see shit
>>723089749its broken?
>>723089749should work now i think
>>723089873I hear you playing but I only see this
>>723087974Alright, I admit it! You did good, Fox.
>>723089647Find a game better than it then.
>>723085824This is so ass....
>>723088946>And convergent evos like KleavorKleavor isn't a convergent evo, it evolves directly from Scyther.
>>723090007still?
>>723090324Whoops, forgot that Kleavor can be evolved into. Thought it was just solo, got mixed up with that random boss Kleavor in the SV DLC.
>>723065747>Gen 4 music>WeakI'm a gen 5 shill and you're still retarded. Game speed is my only real problem with Gen 4.
>>723090421works now!
>>723063883>take body part on old pokemon>make it extra bigthe nadir of creativity, and that's really saying something for TPC
>>723090521Ehhhhhhhhh, I can see it. If you don't like the synth piano focus and how it ties the overall Grandpa/Grandma vibe of Gen IV, you can call it weak. I wouldn't, but it is fair to say its not for everyone. Gen V really had excellent music and tracks, a full assortment of genres and styles that match its dramatic mood. While IV doesn't really have many standout tracks, more consistent with its theming and pacing. It took 'til HGSS for them to experiment around with the instruments and even then you can kind of say that's cheating, only needing to remix tracks.
>>723090521Anon, saying you like gen 5 doesn't mean that gen 4 is good.It just means that you can't defend gen 4 without deflecting.
>can use photo mode from the moment we gain controlthis might be peak... also holy fuck, Taunie's legs are so fucking hot, i might just cum from looking at her.
>>723082825this is such a weird strawman.been playing other monster collection games since DQM on the GB and Pokemon is in fact irredeemable dogshit now now matter how hard you cope.
>>723083649Kalosissy...
>>723065747>It has more obvious problems than any other gen.Not really. Most of what you said just amounts to you not liking some minigames and stuff being postgame. I never cared for secret bases, they're especially useless now, so the Underground with its unlimited fossils and evolutionary stones is a very worthwhile addition compared to prior content.
>>723064872>I can get why some people dislike gen 5 but what's wrong with gen 4?take everything wrong with gen 6 and make it 2x worse and you have gen 4
>>723068013Did in order gens but stopped in gen 5. Was fun in Black since I deliberately lost to N to check my Reshiram's stats then left it in the box to fight N without it.
>>723091303nta but while there are other good monster taming games none of them besides Pokemon have good multiplayer and if you play the genre a lot you rapidly run out of the non-Pokemon games
>>723087341Shit... seeing it in motion is convincing me. Emboar still won my heart.
Any renders of the other new mega mons?
Rate my team
>>723087341literally my mom's bakugan battle brawler
>>723082337Even Gamefreak was ashamed of them considering they made it very clear in the reveal trailer that they didn't make them.
>>723066206ZA should have been a story about the past of kalo they keep teasing the pokemon war in both games and anime yet no lore drop I want to know what happened with AZ I want to play as him
What's even the point of Legends ZA?There's no new pokemon at all right? just Mega evolution gimmicks. At least Legends Arceus had those new Forms or whatever that sorta kinda made them new pokemon, but Legends ZA has nothing.
>>723092339>What's the point of Legends ZA?To play? What the fuck kind of question is that
>>723092339Its PokemonYou're going to buy it anywayPay up piggy
>>723091947Kinda gay ngl
To be honest, the best part of ZA will be all the new porn of pokegirls/mon getting HORSEBUG’d by mega scolipede
>>723092339>What's even the point of Legends ZA?to end the zygarde plot started with XY
>>723092339Pay up goy. You'll eat the slop anyway - GF
>>723092626just like your mom
>>723092339there are new megas, but the games act just as advertisement for their other products like cards and plushies. Think of Pokemon games as Pepsiman
>>723065747>Weak music in general that does evoke a sense of adventureJust plain wrong with shit taste. Won't even address this >Dropped from gen 3's 60fps to 30fpsThis is unfortunate yeah>Secret bases were ruinedSecret bases are extremely overrated and like the other anon said, the unlimited fossiles and shards more than make up for it>Contests were ruinedI liked gen 3 contests, and didn't care for 4s but also don't care enough about contests in general for this to matter at all>Introduced the dumb pokegodsThat was gen 3 lol>Monster designs were generally clutteredGen 4 is on par with 3 in monster designs, and 4 has way better ones in terms of being actually usable.>GTS didn't work.Worked on my machine.>The post game content in DPPT was locked to seeing every pokemon in the dexI literally had to see a finneon and that's it to fill out the dex just playing the game normally.>Several cross gens were locked to the post game in DPAnd gen 3 you couldn't even get most gen 1 and 2 without trading
>>723092339The point is to see if you'll happily pay $120 for a Pokemon game if we cleverly split the price up between day 1 dlc and online membership for access to some of the Pokemon.
>>723092339Minimum Viable Product with as little effort as possible.And it will still sell like hotcakes and top the charts
>>723064139ok but why?
the hotel is giving high Persona 3 vibes rn...
>>723089647runs like shit and sutters like crazy on my 3090 even after shader compilation and dropping the res to 1080pif you play on pc you're probably getting the same experience as switch 1 players
digimon won
>>723087570>skin turns back to orange>hood goes purpleruined to be quite desu senpai
>>723064319I agree but 3>4>2>1>the rest is the only correct order
>>723092339>There's no new pokemon at all right? just Mega evolution gimmicks.Gamefreak considers Megas to be new Pokemon. They do have new stats, abilities, designs, and animations, they practically are new Pokemon.
>>723092968The DLC isn't Day 1, only the pre-order for the expansion pass. Which, while annoying, is technically fine. And you can't really argue that it is the Dexit issue, given how Z-A is a clearly smaller title than a mainline game with full budget. Online Membership is more on Ninty than GF's part (how much of a cut do you think GF get out of a $20 fee?), so it is really only a Home subscription that is Jew-ery on their part. And holding off on that is at least reasonable compared to "LOL LMAO BETTER PAY ONLINE FOR KALOS STARTER MEGAS"This is all bullshit and problems with modern game, it just technically more fair than how most people would put it.>>723092951>Worked on my machine.I'll bat for that anon, the problem wasn't GTS not working functionally, but the concept and execution. It was essentially an auction house with little oversight, no one used it for valid trades nor there was incentive to. You either get little Timmy asking for Giratina for a Budew or a bunch of hackmons. Wonder Trade just functions far more better in getting unique mons from around the world with little cost to yourself. GTS always been an awful system and the fact it has been one of the longest running mechanics in the franchise is kind of absurd when you think about it.>I literally had to see a finneon and that's it to fill out the dex just playing the game normally.Why is this a consistent issue, I had the exact same problem in my old Diamond save?? What the fuck is with that mid-ass fish that made it impossible to find casually!?
>>723087115People have been praising gen 5 for a long time now. XY didn't release that later, accept the fact that BW2 is kino and the last good games in the franchise
>>723087115>i wonder how many years itll be until fucking gen 6 is largely considered greatYou're under the assumption that there's a cycle but if that were the case it would already be loved
>>723087115Gen 5 was ambitious and had identity even if it didn't always hitGen 6 started the Kanto pandering and was half finished
>>723094254>Gen 6 started the Kanto panderingGen 2*
Im not sure why im even downloading it, i dont even like new pokemon games
>>723087498>>723087570that's the whole dex?
>>723094263Where do these untextured mega assets even come from?
>>723094254>Gen 5 was ambitiousNothing says ambitious like dropping the Battle Frontier and berry planting and walking pokemon and having a location called Charizard Bridge despite claiming to be against Kanto pandering.
>>723094263utter shit
>>723093243wheres mega ranamon?
>>723094263utter kino
>>723090007yo niggi, how much have you explored? how big is the map?
>>723095232do you like walkable cities?
>>723092157wasn't he raped by Typhlosion?
>>723095320yes, i'm not american
>>723087550the "baby" forms always look better than the mid and final evolutions
>>723095445good cause that's all there is in this game apparently lmao, you are forever surrounded by blocks with pngs of windows on them
>>723065747Secret bases were better with the Underground and MUCH easier decoration trading, the OST is amazing, contests are for trannies or ribbons, seeing all of the mons in the game encouraged exploration and would have been done naturally anyway.No, it doesn't have more obvious flaws than any other gen. RSE are shittier for cockblocking Ditto until Emerald, making you constantly switch bikes, and having a small ass bag so you need to constantly run back to the PC and drop shit off, a move tutor you can only use in the postgame. GTFO>>723091614Not at all, Gen 6 is fucking trash and where everything went to shit
>>723090785sinnoh has way better music than hgss, you must like shitty marching band music lol
>>723092951>Just plain wrong with shit taste.The fact that no one who posted music replying to that anon posted anything good proves the point.>Secret bases are extremely overrated and like the other anon said, the unlimited fossiles and shards more than make up for itNot really, you're losing the best method of training and the ability to make your own gym for... Nothing.You're realistically only going to need one of each fossil then you can just breed which is infinitely superior. Shards are only used to get the weather TMs in DP and for move tutors in Platinum. The tutors are useful but it's not worth the grinding required which is why people just cheated the shards in or genned mon.Bonus: we lost unique layouts. >but also don't care enough about contests in general for this to matter at allNot an argument, it doesn't matter if you like it or hate it, it's objectively worse.No move combosNo jamming movesNo status effectsIt's just shit in gen 4.>That was gen 3 lolIt was gen 4. If you want to be that>YEA KYGORE AND GRUDDON MAED THE ERF! DEY GODS! kind of retard then yeah sure whatever believe what you want but the fact is that Dialga and Palkia are time and space. Those concepts didn't exist until they were made by Arceus. It's a whole new level than just controlling the weather which most legends prior could do.You even had giratina tearing a hole in the universe to drag people into it's own universe.
>>723092951>Gen 4 is on par with 3 in monster designsIt's not, it has some of the worst designs in the series and it was the whole reason people started calling pokemon over designed because they were covered with unnecessary features and lines that they didn't need. >and 4 has way better ones in terms of being actually usable.On what planet? There's Garchomp and that's pretty much it. Most gen 4 mons didn't become "good" until they introduced hidden abilities in gen 5 and they were still outclassed by mon introduced before and after. Like no one is going to choose iron fist infernape over speed boost blaziken.>Worked on my machine.No it fucking didn't. The GTS was riddled with glitches and didn't work properly until gen 5.>I literally had to see a finneon and that's it to fill out the dex just playing the game normallyWhich would be a lie because it requires scouring the region and fighting every single trainer, even ones that are hidden.>And gen 3 you couldn't even get most gen 1 and 2 without tradingWhat does that have to do with anything? Gen 3 was made from the ground up and being on a new system that handled communications simultaneously fucked up trading between games.How does that excuse gen 4 from making mon that it introduced unavailable until the post game? It makes absolutely no sense.This is why everyone hates sinnohsperm, you are the quintessential pokefags who can't handle an ounce of criticism without deflecting.
>>723069397Ho-Oh literally brings a kid back to life lol.
>>723094527it was named after John Charizard
>>723096041>This is why everyone hates sinnohsperm, you are the quintessential pokefags who can't handle an ounce of criticism without deflecting.Stop ending your posts with such faggy statements. This isn't your fucking safespace, people can and will disagree with you and your criticisms. It's not deflecting to compare Gen 4 with other gens when you are saying it's worse than other gens.
>>723096403>not a safespaceSo why are you so angry if somebody disagrees with you?
only newfags dislike gen4 desu.its been praised for ages and all the whiny is new so you know its some broccoli head fucktards coping.
>>723095729>Secret bases were better with the UndergroundSaid no one ever, I'll take sharing bases and battles, a variety of layouts, better customization items and no input lag over capture the flag and grinding to remove boulders.>RSE are shittier for cockblocking Ditto until Emerald, making you constantly switch bikes, and having a small ass bag so you need to constantly run back to the PC and drop shit off, a move tutor you can only use in the postgame. Nice minor nitpicks you have there but they don't come close to the problems of gen 4. Hell you're complaining about the bike but you only need to switch about twice, pick acro, play the game normally and explore then switch to mach when you've found everything and you're set. Ditto was also in FRLG so you could get it before emerald if you really want to have a rant about minor shit like that then complain about how Magmar and Electabuzz weren't available in DP without fire red and leaf green inserted into the gba slot effectively making the communication pointless since you could transfer them directly from those games so you didn't have to deal with their 8% encounter rate. Anyway, that means that if you didn't have those games you had to either wait until platinum or buy a Wii and battle revolution.And I'd take gen 3's tutors over gen 4's because they all required shards and they were so fucking tedious to get because they were tied to the underground.Gen 4 is a fucking mess.
>>723087045Turned him into this
>>723096403>This isn't your fucking safespace, people can and will disagree with you and your criticisms.Nigger, you're the one getting pissed because your shitty game is being criticised. How is your self awareness this fucking bad?>It's not deflecting to compare Gen 4 with other gens when you are saying it's worse than other gens.You aren't comparing it you moron, going>gen 4 isn't bad because gen 3 did something completely different for a different reason!Is the definition of deflecting.
>>723096768nice peepee
>>723096714>Said no one everSaid everyone ever. I'll take the digging minigame + co-op, and grinding for infinite evolution items, fossils, and shards instead of being limited to just one in RSE over a faggot ass layout and battles you can already do over link lol.>Nice minor nitpicks Says the fucking faggot actually crying over having to see Pokemon in a Pokemon game.>And I'd take gen 3's tutors over gen 4's because they all required shards and they were so fucking tedious Nope, the tutors in Gen 4 aren't locked until the postgame and you can easily farm star pieces to trade for shards which is 10000x faster than BP.
>>723096403>This isn't your fucking safespace,Then why do you think it's yours? Talk about the pot calling the kettle black, the only reason you're so angry now is because your favorite game is being criticised.
>>723064953I'd take 4 off the list but otherwise you are completely correct.
>>723096768This is fake, right?Please tell me it's not real.
>>723096041basedignore the literal children who are crying because you pissed on babbys first pokemon game
>>723094263>what if clefable had a cock on his head?
>>723096041Why do gen 3 faggots have the worst taste imaginable?
>>723065446>>723067596top zozzle
>>723096945>and shards instead of being limited to just one in RSENTA but you know you're also limited to one in DP, right?Also because the underground is segmented with I think at least three different chunks? it gets in the way of co-op. For example you can't go down in Hearthome and play with your friend who went down in the snow area.
>>723064139>Agumon Burst Mode
>>723097180He never even said he liked gen 3.
>>723097287He's spewing all this crap about how gen 4 is bad and ruined everything, ergo he's a gen 3 faggot. Gen 3 is easily the worst of the first five generations, hands down without contest. If you point this out, people get really defensive and have chimp outs like he continues to do throughout the thread.
>>723064139>>723087550It's like pottery, it rhymes
>gen 1 comes out when you are young. Pokemania everywhere. What a time to be alive. Gotta catch em all. I must catch em all. I need the Tiger Electronic Pokedex for Christmas. I need to explain to mom what a link cable is. I hear rumors of Mewthree and Pokegods. Will the wonders never cease?>gen 2 comes out a couple of years later. Pokemania is dying, but the thrill of having more Pokemon and seeing where Togepi, Marill, and Donphan are from is intoxicating. The nighttime glow of windows in Goldenrod on a cold Autumn night fills you with hope and calm. I love this game.>gen 3 comes out and it's no longer safe to be a Pokemon fan. Classmates are calling it and you gay. You operate with the last few classmates still playing it at the lunch table and in the shadows. At least the games are still fun and full of mystery. You're even starting to get into "competitive battling", however that works. The anime seems to be not as fun, but at least May has nice titties. Having recently entered puberty, you like those a lot. Pokemon still rules.>gen 4 comes out and Pokemon is a minefield. You're in high school now and you wouldn't be caught dead playing it outside of home. You talk about it with friends, and are thankful online has arrived to save the day. But you're falling out of love with it. Here come excuses as to why it's the game's fault, and not you growing up. It's okay, I guess. A lot of my favorites got evolutions. That's rad.>gen 5 comes out and you're in college or working now. You glance at it like a jealous lover. You eventually pick up a copy to play, ironically of course. A lasting tie to youth. You don't like all of these unfamiliar Pokemon cleary aping your childhood friends. These routes are so linear. But the fire still burns somewhere down. You'll let go if you must. This isn't the joy you used to have. But it's so ingrained within me, I...I'm a Pokemon fan, right?>Time marches on.Many such cases.
>>723097421>implying 4 isnt the worstintroducing some core changes isnt enough to save it from being a shit show
>>723097214What items you talking about? You can get multiple shards and stones in RS, but it's a lot slower than DP. Only one fossil though, DP lets you get infinite. It's also impossible to get Lucky Eggs in RSE without tradingYou can all be down in the underground at the same time but you have to be in the right 'chunk' to interact with each other, yeah. Barely matters since it's local
>>723097643It's not, I'd rather replay Platinum than Emerald any day of the week. You have a terminal case of shit taste, I'm afraid there's no cure.
>>723097096>excadrill is a drill>it has a metalhelmet and metal claws>mega makes it a bigger drillhurr durr, please tell me it's fake? i am retardeduuhhuuhhhhhh
>>723097643>implying it's the worstAnything before it is more of a shitshow
>>723097618nahgen 3 was gay, 4 was based again and then it went to shit when they made the 3D games and hasnt been good since.your post is just fanboy cope. ever wonder why people didnt react that way to mario games over the years?its because they managed to stay quality.
>>723078786TURTLESLIVIN' UNDERGROUND
>>723097949>hit too close to home>lash out in angerPokefag, please.
>>723096041>worst designs lol literally every gen is le worst>No it fucking didn't.the gts still works to this day dude, i got a glameow from it earlier this year. you may genuinely be retarded
>>723098019>asshurt because his gay post was called out as being gaypokemon is dogshit now.
>>723096945>and battles you can already do over link lol.Dude, the whole point was to have your friend's team saved so you can battle it when you AREN'T linked up.>Says the fucking faggot actually crying over having to see Pokemon in a Pokemon game.Anon, he's complaining that you CAN'T see pokemon that should have been in there, magmar for example should have been in the base game both because it had an evo that gen that was all over the marketing along with Electivire but also because sinnoh had a major lack of fire types.>the tutors in Gen 4 aren't locked until the postgame and you can easily farm star pieces to trade for shards which is 10000x faster than BP.To get BP you just have to do a few battles and you get more every 21 battles after you fight the frontier brain.To get the shards in platinum you have to find star pieces which is a fairly rare item as it is and then go to fuego and trade them for a grand total of one shard per color and to use a tutor you need a total of 8 in multiple colors. For example signal beam requires 2 of each color. In other words, to use at least one tutor you need to find 8 star pieces and from what I can find there's only two daily guaranteed spawns so you have to deal with the RNG of the underground for the other 6 just to use one tutor.Granted you may find more shards in the underground but that's just more rng.
>>723097757Sorry to hear that
Finally some representation
>>723098052>asshurt>gen 3 was gay, 4 was based again and then it went to shit when they made the 3D games and hasnt been good since.lmao.
>>723097980TURTLESNINJUTSU ACTION
>>723084181where do pokemons come from retard
>>723092339>What's even the point of Legends ZA?https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m37G-06ibAU>There's no new pokemon at all right?Every mega is a new Pokémon.New models, animations, cries, stat spread and so on.>At least Legends Arceus had those new Forms or whatever that sorta kinda made them new pokemonIf you consider new forms to be new Pokémon then you have to consider mega evos new Pokémon too. They're different ways to introduce new forms of existing Pokémon lol.Anyway Arceus did have is a handful of new species. Kleavor, Sneasler and such, but Z-A doesn't have any new species as far as we know.
You always wanted a ghost cock sleeve right anon?
>>723098121thanks for agreeing.
>>723098239>have to smell it with odor sleuth to touch it
>>723098239Going full Yuki-onna
>>723098208They already have Toegepi for the concept, nigger. Plus it's a fully fucking grown octopus.
>>723098054>Dude, the whole point was to have your friend's teamWOWAHHHH, can already do that through the WiFi tower, still not worth it over infinite faster fossils, stones, shards, etc anyway + DPPt actually has a Lucky Egg in the campaign if I gave a shit about leveling up my team>Anon, he's complaining that you CAN'T see pokemon that should have been in thereNo he's not you fucking moron, follow the reply chain. He's bitching about the postgame requiring you to see the entire dex and this issue is resolved in Platinum anyway>tutors I can not believe you typed all of this gibberish lol. No retard, fighting a stream of 7 is not faster than clock switching than running through Iron Island for shards. And again, having the tutor before the postgame already makes it better.
>>723097740>>723097806found the 2000 babies whose first games were DPPT
>>723098239they will never top pheromosa.
>>723098397my first game was fire red thoughever
OH NONONO
>>723063883Why do you still post pokemon? I never played anything past GEN II
>>723097757Not retarded just blind and sleep deprived (also a bit retarded), thought it had a giant drill on its stomach at first.
>>723071053Must suck being a contrarian with shit taste
>>723098386>can already do that through the WiFi towerWhat? Anon, you know that online connections are still connections, right?Either way, the grind you gain is definitely not worth the loss of battling. >He's bitching about the postgame requiring you to see the entire dexWhich is a fair complaint no other game before or since had that arbitrary requirement to access the post game, the closest was FRLG and I think you only needed to have 60 mon?> and this issue is resolved in Platinum anywayIt's not. In fact, because of the increased dex it's even worse since there's more mon to find before you can start the post game content.>fighting a stream of 7 is not faster than clock switching than running through Iron Island for shards.Yes, yes it is. Especially with the slow speed of Gen 4 and the fact that they only respawned daily in two of four locations and the fact that saving a lot of data took even longer in platinum than it did in DP that's why no one bothered doing that. You're not exactly proving your point here.>And again, having the tutor before the postgame already makes it better.Problem is, once you have the post game unlocked in Emerald that becomes a non issue and iron island is like halfway through the game anyway. Also one of those tutors is post game anyway.
>>723099321really anon? by that angle I could only imagine it was a big penis until o opened the image
>>723096563>>723096818>>723096987Is it brownoid hours? When in my post did I say you're not allowed to criticize Gen 4? Learn to read retards.
>>723099856>says if someone is angry with disagreement, he's looking for a safespace>still hasn't realized the irony
>>723099856English definitely isn't your first language if you can't see the hypocrisy in getting mad at your favorite game being criticised and then trying to call people out for wanting a safespace.You know you don't have to say something in those exact words to say something right?
>>723099856>When in my post did I say you're not allowed to criticize Gen 4?Right here >>723096403>people can and will disagree with you and your criticismYou clearly don't like criticism.
>>723095729>Gen 6 is fucking trashand yet it's still objectively better than gen 4 and 5
>>723071161Z for zeppelinit's a blimp
>>723100031>>723100084>>723100163I'm really going to have to break this down for you Pedros aren't I?I did not reply to your criticisms, I didn't take issue with that, it's this part:>This is why everyone hates sinnohsperm, you are the quintessential pokefags who can't handle an ounce of criticism without deflecting.I found faggy in particular. You've been saying a ton of gay shit like that all thread.>Shut the fuck up and stop being so butthurt that someone shat on your precious gen 4.>ignore the literal children who are crying because you pissed on babbys first pokemon gameObviously just being mad at anyone that doesn't agree with what you write.
>>723100451>still crying that someone criticized his favorite gen
>series gets worse with each entry>retards who grew up with the shit ones praising them years laterWhat are some other franchises like this?
im not buying this shit and I have a switch 2, I can just emulate the jank switch 1/2 stuffrom out yet?
>>723100712All of them. Pokemon just has a consistent release schedule so someone is always growing up with the games.
>>723100959yes>>723085091
>>723099456>Either way, the grind you gain is definitely not worth the loss of battling.Yes it is, if I gave a shit about battling my friend, we'd do it over wifi, link, etc the feature still exist in the game and I'd take the secret bases+ what you get through the underground any day over Gen 3's. >Which is a fair complaint Nope, and it never will be. You're literally just complaining about playing the game, fighting trainers, and exploring the map. Just say you hate Pokemon, dude. Also good job dropping the "HURRR CAN'T SEE ELECTIVIRE AND MAGMAR" because you knew you were lying about that, fucking retard.>It's not. In fact, because of the increased dex it's even worse since there's more mon to find before you can start the post game content.Nope, pretty much ALL of these Pokemon are added to important NPC teams through gyms, elite 4, galactic, etc and it's even easier because shit like Finneon is used by more than some obscured trainer on the water route. You didn't actually play the games.>Yes, yes it isNo, no it isn't. Fighting 21 Pokemon and sitting through a shit load of text is NOT faster than running through a cave, at all. You are a disingenuous faggot to even imply so.>Saving a lot of dataWouldn't happen after going through Iron Island, lmfao. And Gen 4's overworld isn't slower than isn't slower than gens 1256789. Why are you such a lying little faggot? >Problem is, once you have the post game unlocked in Emerald that becomes a non issue and iron island is like halfway through the game anywayWell, it's good thing there are loads of shards you can pick up and the Underground still exists then, huh? And no, it's still an issue, since BP takes much, longer to farm.>Also one of those tutors is post game Yep, good thing there are still much better ones earlier than what you'd find in RSE. And none of them need fucking BP.Stick to crying about muh god pokemon since you obvious don't play the games and need to lie about everything else, faggot.
>>723100451>I did not reply to your criticismsNo shit, the point is that you replied to the act of criticism and were deeply offended by it.
