Not only did they fail to address the sniper camping issue, they made it worse.Because of the open weapons, assault players turned into snipers.And assault players have three guns, plus those damn ladders and respawn beacons.
>Balance>In Battlefieldnewfag
>>723142904If you haven't gotten a refund on Steam, you must be an idiot.
>>723142787How the fuck is standing above a doorway advantageous for a sniper? And snipers are dogshit off of recon because of proficiency. Same with supports and LMGs. So really open weapons just means you can use an AR or SMG on any class which you could basically do with carbines anyway.
>>723143094>How the fuck is standing above a doorway advantageous for a sniper?No problem, you can now camp anywhere with any weapon.Close range, mid-range, long range—all good.Be a annoying asshole.
Giving assault the spawn beacon was the biggest fucking mistake. They took an already shitty class that offers nothing to the team/squad and made it even more useless. Recon with the spawn beacon at least made it more useful
>>723143380It made sense, too. Recons are far back in relative safety, assault is supposed to be at the very front in hand grenade range. Not a great place for a spawn point.
>>723143380>>723143457It also gave recon a justification for not camping behind their own lines and pushing behind the enemy lines. You could set one up and have your squad attacking from an area they wouldn't expect.They murdered my whole playstyle of sneaking behind to objectives, setting up and covering my squad as they try to take it.
>>723143595Literally did exactly that not long ago in BF4. There's no incentive anymore to even pick Recon to use it for teamwork stuff unless you want to do C4 stuff but unlocking C4 itself is a huge fucking grind
>>723143380>Giving assault the spawn beacon was the biggest fucking mistake.Im sorry what? Why did they move it from recon???
there is no reason to play any class that isn't support (objectively the best class) or engineer (purely for vehicles)assault and recon are entirely useless
>>723143851>Why did they move it from recon???EA imagined this would let assault players provide respawn beacons for teammates and push the front lines.Nope. Players just equipped sniper rifles and kept camping.In terms of results, this is even worse than recon.
>>723143958Recon has no revive on sniper headshots which is nice, but yeah open weapons has like 90% of the lobby being Support. They should have gotten Ammo, give Assault the Medic shit
>>723144107lol fuck. and theres even ladders too? How far weve fallen from bf4. its so sad.
>>723142787Watched some gameplay on YouTube and the guy had a sniper rifle, an assault riffle and a m320. How is that balanced? You can snipe at range, have an assault riffle for close to mid range and then you can spam your grenade launcher.
>>723144231>and theres even ladders too?And assault rifles can be equipped with 3 guns.Once he runs out of sniper rifle ammo, he can switch to CQB.
>We're getting this trash instead of Battlefront 3 with an online galactic conquest mode.Fuck EA and DICE foreverially.
>>723142904It existed in 2142
>>723142787kek this looks kino. shame i don't have a good pc.
They should have made the classes like how they were in Bad Company 2>Assault: ARs and GLs, has ammo boxes for self and team to stay in the front fighting and to keep pushing>Engineer: Same as right now>Medic (Support): Same as right now but box only provides healing>Recon: Same but with Spawn beaconIn addition to locked-class weapons this is the most "balanced" they can ever get it. I don't know why they just dont do it like this. Support in BF6 being able to heal and provide ammo is just busted. Literally everyone that plays it runs an AR with it and just plays it like a regular BF4 Assault that never runs out of ammo
>>723145479OK I get they were going for how classes were like im BF3/4 but honestly the BF1 and BF5 classes were also balanced designs as well. Could also easily be tweaked to work in the setting. Also add crewman and pilot roles when spawning into vehicles>Assault: Carbine and AT capabilities. METH>Medic: Assault rifles, med bag, defib and GLs. >Support: MGs, ammo box, repair tool, fire support and most engy gadgets. C4>Recon: everything recon always had and C4>Crewman and Pilot: SMGs, Repair tool Make SMGs, DMRs and Shotguns unrestricted so all classes could use them like how it was in BF3 with the other types locked by class. Also to differentiate between Carbine and ARs make it so Carbines are way better in short range with faster ADS and reload while having slow bullet velocity with less accuracy so its shit for mid to long range. Make ARs be a bit slower than Carbine on the ads but make them perform much better at mid range and even long with more accuracy (less bloom).
>>723142787The ladder is actually cool though. Sadly, you can't use it to get on the rooftops on half the maps.
>>723147940I can't accept combining medkits and ammo boxes, then handing the boxes over to support.With open weapons, DICE has created the most powerful medic ever.And assault has become the new camping sniper. Equipped with three guns, a beacon, and a ladder.What were they thinking?
>>723142787I like Recon being able to be a sneaky fucker with an automatic weapon, who creeps into the enemy backline and sets up a spawn point there. Fun gameplay
>>723148580>What were they thinking?All to bring the CoDfags for them to make "clips".I have yet to see a clip from BF6 that was on the level of the BF3 Jet swap or close to it...
>>723142904>the franchise should never improve
>>723144363>>723144107>>723143380assault having the spawn beacon is the dumbest shit ever. hes clearly supposed to be the anti-infantry spearhead that starts flailing when in contact with a vehicle. he is dependent on support, not supposed to be support. what even is the point of recon now? also assault is clearly codfag bait but i still like the class
sitting in a corner with a shotgun onetapping anyone that came running through was hilarious
>>723142904Class balance in BC2 was borderline perfect. There was always a healthy mix of classes.
>>723150013>what even is the point of recon now?The idiot who made this decision doesn't even play Battlefield. He has absolutely no clue why players would use the assault class to camp.
>>723142787Gaymers got what they asked for: No suppression. Now quit crying and enjoy getting sniped. You deserve much worse for handing EA shekels anyway
>>723150458>You deserve much worse for handing EA shekels anywayBecome meBuy BF6 on SteamPlayed for 1.8 hours and realized the game is garbage.All the problems that appeared in beta testing have not been fixed at all.Refund.
Soo whats wrong with giving assault the respawn beacon? I like using it in rush cuz I can flank around the point, drop a beacon behind cover and then rush in with no worries
>>723151086You answered your own question
>>723151086Its an item that should exist at all IMO. It sucked when it was Recons just camping with it and entire squads spawning off it, and it half-sucks now but only cause its way more limited in respawns. I guess cause they merged Ammo+Healing+Defibs onto a single class they had to figure out something for Assaults to get
>>723151217>its bad now because the class most likely to rush in with their repertoire of grenade launchers and extra shotguns n shit will drop a respawn point directly near the objective instead of on their favorite sniper spotUh? And yes you could just be a fag and run a sniper anyway but that would objectively be suboptimal because now half your kit is useless. Whether that's enough to stop people, I dunno, but i feel like there's enough incentive not to do that
>>723151689you can't have granade launcher and respawn becononly one gadget
>>723152625Yes you can. Just give up your shotgun and you have two gadgets
>>723142787Play closed weapons playlists
>>723149503>BF3 Jet swap or close to itjumping out of Jet, shoot RPG and go back in while A-Team plays? That one?At least there are no faggy killstreaks... that would be the end of BF.
You boomers sure are something else. You all are like women with your petty complaints
>>723153126you can?that's nice
>>723153312That's the "RendeZook"This is the Jet Swap which is more impressivehttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LrOIgxQ--Tc
>>723154884Yeah. Shotgun actually counts as the "weapon sling" gadget. I considered putting a dmr on it instead but I like running grenade launcher and beacon.
>we're rebooting battlefield>include the retarded gadgets from 2042 which are physically impossible nano technology
>>723155094Funny how 2042 being very shit actually had such moments like that happening early on even showed up in it's trailer whereas "Battlefield is back!" 6 does not
>>723155314>2042>"Battlefield is back!"This also happened during the first week after 2042's release.Those new players were fools, truly believing 2042 would be a masterpiece.They thought anyone who disliked 2042 was just a hater.By the second week, they realized 2042 was garbage.If BF6 lasts a month, everyone will start complaining the game sucks.
>>723142787Assault is the second worse class in the game behind recon.Yea you get 3 guns but no fucking ammo, and the gadgets are shit besides the thermo nade.Support is far and away the best class in the game.Just run the M4, which just out-DPSes everything, and constantly throw down bags for instant healing and ammo, and you”ll top the leaderboard everytime.
Bumping for interest
>>723144107The maps are too small to effectively use spawn beacons like that anyway.
>>723157862Exactly, I can't understand why EA made the Support class so overpowered.He even has a shield and a mortar.This gear and the light machine gun are completely unsuitable for a medic.If the Support player intends to camp out and play with the mortar, he won't be rushing to the front lines to save his teammates.
>>723142787I heard only the M4 is good and this is what everyone uses now
>>723143281>emdash
>>723142787No one even plays assault, they play engineer for rockets or recon for auto spotting, both with carbines of course
>>723159828>I heard the first gun you get is what everyone's using
>>723153784ur brown
>>723142787Meanwhile I play a sniper with a shotgun or a assault rifle, the motion sensors let me easily hunt down anyone who intrudes into the point I'm protecting.
>>723142787i love playing recon and just sitting and shitting drones out. Too bad the game lets you use only one before you have to die to be able to spawn another one. Man, most of the issues in this game are such easy fixes, why are they even a thing...
>>723159814Medic class had LMGs in Bad Company 2. The idea is if you wanted ammo, you need to go with the Assaults plus also serves keeping Medics somewhat at the front line.Prone with a bipod up on an LMG is a nice visual but realistically you get shot by a sniper before it matters.
>>723149804>the franchise should never improvet. EA executives
>>723160012>both with carbines of courseNow everyone is " Assault," yet real assault is just meaningless.The only remaining uses are camping and sniping.EA completely fucked up the class balance.
>>723142787thats what you get for buying meme games made by trannies
>recon gets wallhacks>engineer can repair and destroy tanks>Medic can literally bring people back from the deadBut God forbid assault get to climb into a 2 story window.
Just join in bf4 for tdm, which is objectively better than codfield 6
>>723160449>The idea is if you wanted ammo, you need to go with the AssaultsThe problem is BF6 lets Support classes carry both ammo boxes and medkits simultaneously.Combined with free weapon selection, Support has now become the most powerful assault-medic hybrid.Meanwhile, the actual Assault class has become utterly useless, effectively turning into the new " Recon."Climbing ladders to annoying corners, using sniper rifles to annoy everyone.
>>723142787Rightwing KEKS>never preorderPreorders>vote with your wallet, fuck EA!Buys EA game at full price>don’t pay $70 for a videogamePays 70>Fuck SaudisGives money to Saudis>fuck these dumbed down gamesBuys tiniest BF game with less vehicles, less gadgets, less weapons, no mods, tiniest maps, spam fest.>fuck always online gamesEnjoy being disconnected from singleplayer you fat nigger cows. Always remember that YOU are the cancer that ruined games.
>>723160840Well yeah I don't agree with giving "Support" both the Ammo and Medical gadgets. Assaults should get ammo, its such an easy fix.
>>723161001I am right wing and I didn't buy this game
>>723160840>>723161043>assault gets half ammo in exchange for having 2 primaries>wanting to give them the ability to supply themselves with ammo and negate their entire ammo economy on top of giving them snipers and laddersAre you two retarded? Half the complaints about "assault becoming the new recon" is negated by the fact they just run out of ammo.
>>723160649I can't believe that people are still sleeping on Recon. Autospot/ spot grenade/ motion tracker light up the map.
The only battlefield game that had good balance is BFV>medic is a infantry-focused stormtrooper that's limited by having to get close before they can kill everyone and revive their team, folds to vehicles>assault is the do-everything killer class but needs constant resupplies from medic and support to keep working>support covers various niche or defensive combat roles on top of being ammo monkey but does those things pretty well>recon is either DA SNIPER or the dedicated spotter since 3D spotting isn't universal because it sucks when it isno other game in the series feels as coherent in class balance
>>723161043>its such an easy fix.I bet it won't.The people making BF6 now are just a bunch a faggots who don't even play the game.It'll take them at least a year before they admit they were wrong and that the game needs rebalancing.
How the fuck do class challenges work?>play recon>spot enemy on capture point>check after game>no progress>got like 7k points>no points to the 10k pointswhat
>>723144107>we want the fortnite audience
>>723161312I regularly get top score just from putting down the TUGS on the point and using my drone to spot people on roofs trying to lay down covering fire. I end every match with almost triple digit assists.
>>723150139lol>https://youtu.be/vOxB7fnrdasgiving medic access to the all-around best primaries is just a bad idea imo
>>723161307>complaints about assault becoming the new reconWho the fuck is saying that, cause right now Recon players could just play Support and pick a sniper and have healing, ammo and defib their sniper cuckbuddies. The spawn beacon is tweaked down to not even be as annoying as old games with whole teams spawning on a roof top from them.
>>723161307>negated by the fact they just run out of ammo.Nah—if you're worried about ammo, just equip one sniper rifle. That way you'll have more bullets.You don't need a carbine when you're camping in corners anyway.
>bf6 players
>>723161628>the fuck is saying that, cause right now Recon players could just play Support and pick a sniper and have healing, ammo and defib their sniper cuckbuddies.This is really giving me a headache.Why on earth did EA think letting players freely choose weapons was a good idea?The game's balance is completely broken now.
>>723142787Not installing proprietary OS to play that fucking slop.
>>723161482You have to be level 20 before the challenge starts.
>>723142787Support and engineer are the only relevant classes right now. Weapon balance is also fucked right now with SMGs being more accurate than ARs and carbines.
>>723161839EA didn't think at all about making a good game.EA thought "oh fuck we're gonna go bankrupt, reskin 2042 into something slightly less offensive, give some meaningless token concessions to silence critique, astroturf it to hell and back with eceleb streamers to trick people into buying it, and above all MAKE SURE EVERYONE IS GRINDING FOR AS LONG AS POSSIBLE SO WE CAN SELL SKINS AND BATTLE PASSES"
>>723162006Serious question, Have you ever shot a gun before
>EA was likely going to do another 2042 with named characters that no one cared about. Until they realized how fast 6 would bomb if they tried it again. So they instead pushed their super cool character lore and backstories behind some random menu in the character creation screen.Why the fuck are they so obsessed with doing this? I can appreciate that someone at EA realizing that they shouldn't do it and telling them to cut that shit. But why not just get rid of it entirely and make a super simple character customization for soldiers? Instead you have this weird "hero" selection for character skins that even genderlocks NATO support to being a woman since no one thought to make a male skin for it.
I'm old and bad at videogames now. I used to be great at these but I am AWFUL at this one. It's been a while since I played an FPS but stillWorst thing is my friend I used to always play with is still excellent or possibly even better, always top of the leaderboard while I'm now the bottomfeels real bad man
>>723162695>Why the fuck are they so obsessed with doing this?because hero characters are points of potential marketabilityoverwatch, apex legends, etc. vince zampella (current head battlefield man) said in an interview that respawn was going to do hero characters in all of their games going forward more-or-less because people obsess over them and that has the potential to make the game way more moneyI think only recently with the success of stuff like REPO and lethal company and the snapback against stuff like 2042 has it occurred to companies that generic guys can also be marketable in their own way
>>723155314Personally I thought the rendezook showing up in the trailer was a bad omen. Like they aren't taking their own game seriously? Idk
>>723162893oh, can't forget helldivers 2 either
>>723162351It's a video game
>>723162921>Like they aren't taking their own game seriously?remember when BF3 referenced /v/ multiple times
>>723162695because that way they can sell you 1 skin per class instead of 1 skin you equip on every class. because you will grind longer on the battlepass to unlock skins for every class than if you unlock one for all of them
>>723162860you're not bad anon, it's just 15 year olds on adderall have all day to play, and there is zero benefit to teamplay or experience.
>>723161535I don't care about your hyperbolic video. Every class was viable and needed in BC2.>No Assault? Enjoy no ammo>No Engineer? Enjoy no vehicle sustain which was absolutely mandatory in the tight bottlenecks>No Recon? Enjoy no sensor grenades so you don't know where fuckers are
>2025>still crying about campersHow shit are you at video games? You get killed once, now you know where he is. Either go kill him or just go the other way. Actually, no. Keep getting farmed. You deserve it for playing any battlefield game after 4
>>723161862WHAT
Imagine still playing flat shit bf and not being fully immersed. Can it get more boring?
>>723163313nah lol my strongest memory of BC2 (and i love that game) is playing both into and as a four medic stack in the crater on the first point of port valdez and never fucking dying because medic has overpowered guns with assloads of ammo on top of being able to instantly get everyone upsensor nades are cool and all but everyone has 3D spotting at perhaps its most retarded so
Is "Get kills while using adrenaline injector" bugged?I'm using it every time to try and accomplish this stupid ass challenge and I'm not getting any credit
>>723143851Recon gets a hat on a stick instead.
>>723144504It's not like they wouldn't fuck that up too, you'd have to resurrect Pandemic and convince them to come back to game dev slavery to get a good battlefront game again.
>>723163589It's funny too because it doesn't even match the actual recon dude
>>723163350I do find it funny when people still complain about campers. The people camping are never near the top of the leaderboard anyway.These retards would probably complain about CTs camping in counterstrike.
>>723163512vr cucks are delusional
>>723161342TRVTH NVKE
oh its another 40 year old boomer bitching thread. the only people constantly crying about this game
>>723161342>>723164038Its literally the same as BF3 which was>Assault gets the defibs/healing>Engineer for anti vehicle>Support gets ammo>Recon is ReconWhich is the same as BF5 except they just called Engineer the Assault.
>>723163089That shits not showing up in the marketing approved by a bunch of execs though, that's just some texture artist having some fun.
>>723161342Honestly if it wasn’t for that retarded trailer and comments from that dev, BF5 would be looked on way more fondly.Honestly was one of the best playing BF games.
>sets claymore>runs in, dies>get claymore kill waiting to respawnyeeeeeeep, we are so back
the terrible thing it they re introduced the bad hitreg from beta 1they fixed it in beta 2but its back now
>>723143768Recon for team in bf4 lol. I use an sks with a red dot. I am not support, i am lead.
>>723164301>sets drone>floats in, sees landmine and someone lying next to it>remotely trigger mine>they go flying into the airyeeep
You've completely f*cked over Recon Class...Playing Recon back in Beta was the greatest of experiences...We had the spawn point for our squads and to help us get into position.. That's somehow assault now? (that's the stupidest decision to ever make.. Fix the assault class instead if you think he's lacking... )Now Recon class is stuck with a bunch of very plastic toys.. Which honestly works pretty good.. Cause you can scout out their whole team.... But it's sh*t for getting points... I spent an entire match scouting out their team and making sure they wasn't allowed to used their vehicles by "painting". Basically found a way to just help carry my whole team... And for that i got about 4300 weak little match points... Which didn't even let me show on the leaderboard when i tabbed with 0 deaths and around 52 assists...Sure you CAN play Recon... But the time to level up compared to ALL other classes will be some f*cking bullsh*t...F*ck this ruined class i was here thinking to myself after the game.. (The class i most played during beta). Then i decided to just take a look on what it takes to unlock all it's stuff just to get it done...Now imagine this.. To get the best stuff as Engineer... You need reach something like "rank 32" and have repaired around 2000 points on a vehicle... Then catch a couple good tanks with a couple land mines.. Some kills with an SMG (class specific) Voila... As soon as you've reached rank 32 then you've unlocked "the Engineer..." You have his best tools... All his best guns.. He can finally start to really shine, and he can start to focus on attachments..
>>723164629Now what does the Recon class need to do to get his best stuff?Well first off.. You gotta reach rank 42 (numbers in this post may vary).. Get a bunch of headshots with a DMR (suckiest gun in whole game... It can't hit sh*t, and when it does it deals no damage.. Also not a class specific... Recon gets bonuses for using SNIPER not a DMR.. DMR is just a cool side gun with no added benefits.. So i gotta use a suckier gun that's off-class to even get to use my main one..On top of that.. I gotta get 35 people to be stupid enough, to shoot at a fcking dollface.. Which might be fun... But Do you realise how many games that sh*t might take?On top of that. There was something about having to spot people or shoot them while they are inside the capping circle.. That's not too hard, but it's still very specific... That's a weekly quest... But as a challenge to unlock all the weapons then it is just a waste of time..Engineer basically has to enter a match. Jump onto a tank. And lay there for 5 minutes and his main quest will be completed.. He will get well over 2000 repair points and At rank 32 which is very low level he will get all of the good stuff...As a recon.. I've gotta join 100 games and try to get 35 people to shoot a fcking dollface.. Make sure i see 500 people inside a point.. And then also use an awful weapon that's not for me?..On top of that they didn't even get to keep the spawnpoint. So not only are they less useful, it's a class that plays best afk.. Cause i was promised... I was gonna be able to put my Drone up in the skies and then just leave it so it can scout the people for me. But that is bugged.. So as soon as i leave the drone screen and try to get some kills myself it stops to tag...So i am basically forced to afk if i am even gonna use my stuff.
>>723164703Step one.. Give the spawn beacon right back to Recon... You can even keep it on Assault, since the spawn is squad bound. And then maybe give them a f*cking Manpad. So i can choose if my playstyle is gonna be "sniper/anti tank" or a "sniper/anti air" And stop making Recon's way of progression compared to all the other classes so f**king long and rough..
i wish there was a training mode to practice flying the helicopters and fighter jets. i am fucking horrible at it, and i feel like i'm throwing the game by taking them from my teammates and either suiciding within 30 seconds or getting immediately shot down by some cracked out pilot who's been practicing for years
>>723164762Go launch a private game, put a password so its only you. Then go practice. That or there is a few aerial theme custom maps out.
>>723164841i had no idea that was an option, thanks anon
>>723164629Recon was always the worst class in this shit series, maybe even worse than support. They have been at this for decades and still don't know what they are doing.
Why did he do it?
Bitch all you like, but storming a point with three tanks and some other infantry at the beginning of a match with this blowing up everywhere is fun.
if you play assault with snipers you get more sway https://www.twitch.tv/stodeh/clip/HorribleInspiringKaleJebaited-fxgMjT7tAWhnwB6V
>>723165708Wait you actually played the campaign?
>>723166513Yes
>>723142787>OP makes a thread about a game hes never playedyou literally cannot use the bolt action rifles on any other class but recon, the sway makes it fucking unusable on anyone further than 50m
>>723161278You support Saudis and pedos through other means
>>723166680Wait shit is there any unlocks worth playing the campaign for? I don’t care about skins/emotes/whatever the fuck.
>>723166976No.
>>723164841Does that work to get the "fly 10000 meters" challenge?
>>723165708Got left behind, caught, and Stockholm Syndromed.>>723166513You didn't?
>>723166685>you literally cannot use the bolt action rifles on any other class but recon, the sway makes it fucking unusable on anyone further than 50mSkill issuesPractice more, kid.
>>723166887Nope :)
>>723164282what about the stuffed dinosaur in the tank mission (prominently featured in a trailer) that was almost certainly inspired by the meme thread where everyone said they wanted dinosaurs in BF3
>>723167153You can complete almost any challenges on portal servers vs bots.
>>723167269see>>723166328they made it so if you are not recon there is a cone of spread and increased sway, its rng if you even hit
>>723167331Double think.
>>723167224>We're involved in a mission that'll kick off an international incident if something goes wrong so if we get left behind>Get left behind>WHAT THE FUCK HOW COULD THEY BETRAY ME I'M EVIL NOW
>>723167582thrud cope
>>723167512No, the better choice is to fucking disable free weapon selection.The game's current terrible balance is 50% caused by this.
>>723167778>No argument. Enjoy being NPC that cant rotate an apple I guess
For me it's the MP5.
>>723168237Why does this lighting look as disgusting as oil?It reminds me of UE3.
are you guys shilling all the fun things that are going to be removed and nerfed in 3 weeks or nothing still?
>>723167331No no of course not, you just support the people that can’t stop licking Saudi ass and raping kids.>n-no I don’t!!!You do. And you most likely always will, since you’re a rightwing cuk. >no! I hate Saudis!!! Qatar and Israel are my new daddies.
>>723167508Which ones can't you complete on portal against bots?(Besides the campaign challenges.)
>>723159828I mean that's probably because most guns take longer to unlock? >>723168237When do you unlock this?
>>723168237>mp5based>grinded 2042 all the way to get the engi skincringe
>>723168634I will gladly have them change everything including the maps.
>>723167776But there was already an international incident, Paris got nuked and NYC almost got nuked. WWIII nearly kicked off but Blackburn fragged his commanding officer.
Ladderbros...we laddering...step it up...get laddered! Ladder2heaven4you ...
>>723167086Then why did you play the campaign???
>>723168756>all the way to get the engi skinI went farther than that though
>>723168778i know how multiplayer games worksi just want to see the usual fun stuff that gets shilled till it gets removed because no fun allowedjust like killing people with the mav in bf3
>>723168981>funI think it's no fun at all when assault players use ladders to climb onto roofs, pull out sniper rifles, and annoy everyone.
>>723169403dont worrygive it a month and you'll have invisible walls at random spots just like others bfs no fun for youno fun for them
Will there be any other Initiation modes besides Breakthrough? Fighting half bots is surprisingly fun, they actually use squad tactics.
>>723169637initiation modes stop working after lvl 10 or 12 or somethingthey also are the most consistent in terms ot hitreg ttk ttd
>>723168237I kindof hate how they tied this skin to 2042, Im not touching that shit. im really hoping future content isnt just neon color shit like the high level unlocks would suggest.
>>723169669So I should be taking advantage of it while I can?
>>723169964yea
>>723169786>giving a fuck about cosmeticsmay i advice you some cod?
>play different game mode on same map>the points have different namesWhat in tarnation is this? Should I be less stupid so this doesn't throw me off or is it just retarded of them to do this?
>>723170006I dont care, its just nicer to have is all. More of what you like is better than nothing.
>>723169637>Fighting half bots is surprisingly fun, they actually use squad tactics.Damn I wish my teams were all replaced by bots, my teams have been awful. Probably have a 3+k/d and a 0.25 w/l
>>723158653Is there anything Golmud sized?
>>723168703Some thing s require a squad: reviving squad mates, squad mates spawning on your beacon, shit like that.
>>723170006Cosmetics are THE single most important part of a game to a majority of people. They won’t admit it but it’s true. Take the exact same gameplay, exact same everything, but put a skin someone doesn’t like and they will scream and cry and shit their pants about how dogshit the game and gameplay are. Skin they like? Holy shit this game is so goooood!
>>723170563for me it isn't, specially if its a fucking game pretending to be about warwhat the fuck does the game have rick and morty in a war
>>723170319how autistic are you that you care about what letter the points have
>>723144107Lmao they still kept open weapons for every class and didn't think this would happen? Who is in charge of these decisions
>>723170697Well every time I hear the Carly Simon song I can't help but think 'the song is about him,' although lately I'm thinking maybe the song is about Carly herself. Does this answer your question? Also the announcer will say things like, the enemy is assaulting E and i'm like, I don't know which one that is.
>>723170803that would be the first thing anyone with common sense would thinkanyway i see nothing wrong with it
>>723170840You listen to the announcer? I literally go where is most convenient/path of least resistance if I'm doing something like conquest, or follow the flow of my team to have cohesion. The only game I cared about the announcer was BF1 because she sounded hot as fuck saying "apple", "baker", etc.God I wanted to missionary-breed her deep
>>723171034I don't do what he says but I hear him speak
Can we all just agree to re-download BF4 and play that instead?
>>723142787If you use a sniper on a non recon class you get triple the sway and cant steady aim, all you shitposters dont even play the damn game
>>723142787Bow to your king
>>723171212Last time I tried, the map rotation was very stale. I could play Shanghai/Zavod/Flood all day long, but it was all the massive maps for vehicle lovers.
>>723169964play the infantry only operations or whatever the fuck tis called now community gamemodeits mostly bots also hardcore conquest in off hours is bots in vehicles so you can level your up quick
>>723171618>achievementsyou also take pics of the shit you make in the toilet?
>>723171212BF4 is shit
I'm ashamed of all my former battlebros saying this game is a return to form. battlefield died shortly after the release of the pacific DLC in BFV.
this game is a return to form
>>723144107>Westoid Devs>We listened to your feedback and ruined the game! :D>Nipoid Devs>We didn't listen to your feedback and ruined the game! :D
Hitreg is abysmal once againThey fixed this shit in the 2nd beta
>>723172738bf died when bc2 was released
>>723142787Ladder memeing is the only fun thing in the game and no I won't stop doing it
>>723173286any good glitch spoits?
>>723173151lel
imagine paying to play this open aka TRANNY trash
>>723173373Actually haven't found any glitches that were helpful but getting into apartment areas around corners that probably aren't intended is the best use. Cairo and the blue city one are unplayable without memeing. In fact most maps are so atrocious that fucking around in them is far more fun than actually trying
as someone who stopped playing around the release of BFV, looking at streams, the scale of everything just seems way off (it's smaller). vehicles don't seem to matter as much. and map design looks like ass. it's less BF, and more COD-like.RIP BF. you were amazing in BF3, and most parts of BF1.
>>723174140its bf mw19 basically, with worse hitreg and netcode
>beta>they make closed weapons and open weapons servers>the default quick match only puts you in open weapon servers>closed weapon is a completely separate gamemode that is hidden behind a second menu>beta ends>>>according to the data from the beta, open weapons servers were MUCH more popular so we are sticking with open weapons
>>723168482They're still using last gen lighting methods so the thirdies don't bitch about being unable to run the game
>mfw recived my refund even after 8 hours of gameplaygod fucking bless, fuck this game
>SMGs are better at distance than assault rifleslmfao
>>723174140This game maps are honestly worse than most BFV maps. I recall people during the beta saying this was just a bit better than 2042 and they weren't wrong. It's literally that minus the slopperators. RIP.
Assault is the worst class by a wide margin
xm7 needs a buffthe no damage drop off is cool but it's just not good enough
can those folding ladders be destroyed?>pic for attention
>>723142787The real issue is how little fucking ammo the assault class has, its like laughably bad. take 2 weapons? ok enjoy 3 mags on each. BF6 also needs a hardcore mode ASAP.
>>723163725doesn't really have to
>>723163313No he's right. BC2 was a medic-coded game (just like most of them desu). I played with randoms and most of our teams were just 3-4 stack medics lol
Do LMGs ever get better? I wanted to try maxing out the default before trying other guns, but it's actually so bad. RoF is low, damage is mediocre, spread is actually ass. Every single duel I lose to some faggot with an smg or AR at pretty much any range.
>AssaultShould have access to Assault rifles, carbine. SMGs, and shotguns>engineer Should have access to SMG, Shotguns, Carbines, DMR>SupportLMG, AR, Crbines, DMR>ReconSniper rifles, DMR, SMGs, Carbines I have spoken and I am RIGHT.
>>723175730DESU i have never played a BF game were LMGs were anything but pure dog shit.
>>723175730second one is great
Anyone tried the cpu high temp fix with the file?Thread.ProcessorCount 8Thread.MaxProcessorCount 8Thread.MinFreeProcessorCount 0Thread.JobThreadPriority 0GstRender.Thread.MaxProcessorCount 16
Are they gonna add more factions or is support stuck with only women forever? Who the fuck greenlighted that in a fps with a mostly male fan base? Just let me choose you fucking niggers...
>>723161342>>723164252It should not be like in BF3 where the Assault class can also use the best weapons in the game.BF5 is actually pretty good in terms of class balance like the other anon said.Mainly because the medics can't use the best guns in the game.Medics are limited to close quarte machine guns and they need spray controll on long ranges.BF5 has other problems though. The tanks in that game are impossible to kill, unless you can run to them and stack C4 on them.Also the assault rifles are clearly the best weapons in the game as well.The AGM just straight up shits on the whole Recon class alone, except maybe you have god-like aim and just headshot everyone with the heavy snipers.Otherwise Assault just beams everyone on the map with their semi-automatic rifles.
>>723142787So was BF4 just the last good modern battlefield game?
>>723175730>>723175850>>723175892LMGs and SMGs are both OP right now, if you can't fry with the DSR-IAR you might just be terrible
I say that recon should NOT have the spawn beacon, it is fine with assault.Putting a respawn point in some gay ass sniper spot where they are all jerking each other off for being fags doesn't help the rest of your team. Giving it to assault who is going to provide an extra spawn point in an actual spot that helps you win the match (something a sniper wouldn't know about) is a benefit.Don't agree? Well you are wrong.I do think the weapons should have been restricted to classes like the old BC2 style days.
>>723176616>fry with the DSR-IARIt’s okay, but it is just a shittier M4
>>723176680people who play assault are braindead retards who don't use their gadgets in the first place let alone play with any sort of tact as to position a spawn beacon in a tactical position if they did use it in the first placeget snipe into oblivion faggot
>>723176837it has way less bloom
>>723176837which you get perks for to use you FUCKING retard
>>723176893Assault is the cuck class>Oh a wall I need to destroy!*Fires launcher*>No damage>Fires laucher>Half the wall collapses>Has to run over to the support bag for 50s to get a new shot>Fires again>1cm of the wall finally collapses
>>723176346>The tanks in that game are impossible to kill, unless you can run to them and stack C4 on them.So just like in real life. You need dedicated AT guns to take down panzers.
>>723144107This is dumb enough I'll stick to BF4.
>>723176837This
>>723177060>So just like in real life.have you...have you not seen any of the Ukraine footage where we are popping tanks left and right with shoulder mounted launchers?
>>723175520>destroyedtake a guess considering how random destruction is in this shit franchise
>>723144107Huh I was wondering how snipers were getting on top of buildings on maps with no aircraft.
>>723177174BFV is set in WW2, Anon.
>>723177263>with no aircraft, A lot of buildings have ziplines up.
one of my favourite BF strategies is using smoke grenades and supply crate, and just smoke screening my own hillniggers. it's hilarious to see them wiggle around a bit in prone confused, then eventually get up and move slightly forward towards the front. you can eventually heard them into the actual battlefield like little lost goats. but smokes look fucking terrible and nerfed in this game since its a shitty CoD clone. so i'm not gonna buy it. not that i would spend 60 bucks on half-assed EA shit with 5 maps.
>>723162921Do you have your head up your ass? Of all the problems with 2042, the trailer having one of those "only in battlefield" moments based on a mega popular video from the community was not one of them.
>>723176837>this is an LMG
>>723163313>bc2>pretending recons ever did anything but hide a hundred miles away to snipeNah, not one team was burdened by lacking in bush wookies. Even /v/ has a few people who actually play videogames, so you can't be getting away with bullshitting here.
>>723176893Spoken like a true fag sniper providing no benefit. You run your fat ass back up that mountain bitch
>>723175792>AssaultEverything>engineer Everything>SupportEverything>ReconEverythingNo refunds
Why dont they just go back to having more than 4 classes like in BF2?
>Join game>Losing by 400 tickets>Check squad>It's 3 snipers camping several hundred feet away from any victory pointBattlefield never changes, huh?
>>723177569NTA but honestly in BC2 I played recon as a front line using the common weapons and no sniper, was a lot of fun actually.
did they actually keep the open weapon selection for bf6?
>>723177174Retard.
>>723177831yep.
>>723177831Yeah but now you get class perks for certain weapon types so you're still incentivized to stick to certain things. Although everyone just runs around with an M4A1 anyways.
>>723178228So it's exactly like 2042, but now you can't change your attachments in the field.
>>723174140The big maps are really just medium sized but they're designed to be big so they're fucking awful.Most of them have a central tower somewhere where fags just sit on top of with snipers and assault rifles and laser beam fags from the top and since the map isn't big enough, they're within everyone's kill range and can see everything.The smaller maps are actually good because they have tons of corridors and levels so you can generally be safe enough wherever you go and not have to worry about getting beamed over 100m away from someone you could have never seen.Also SMGs are OP and if they get the drop on you or you have shittier latency you're almost guaranteed to be killed every time unless they fuck up.Pretty much it feels more like COD and less like Battlefield a lot of the time.
>>723178228>everyone just runs around with an M4A1 anyways.that's because you don't actually start unlocking other guns until you get to rank 20 or something
>>723178275Never played it so I can't tell you, but I heard 2042 has heroes which was dumb.
>LADDER ASSISTok this is epic
>>723178394It had Battle Royale/campaign characters as subclasses of the main four classes. It wasn't as bad as people say, but it's obviously not how it's supposed to be.
>SMGs have the highest ROF but are more accurate than ARs at mid range>Somehow they also don't have any damage falloff within 30m???
>>723145479I think id just make more classes and more restricted.>Assault- Rifles- Spawn beacon, Flashbangs>Medic- Carbine- Medpack, Revive, Smokes>Support- LMG- Ammo, Incendiary>Engineer- SMG- C4, Rockets, Repair tool, land mines>Recon- Sniper- Mortars, Laser, Personal minesAnyone could use shotguns and frag grenades. The logic here outside of keeping the game simplified is that assault is on the frontline advancing, snipers with no reason to get close at all, medics only focus on health and survival, supports on ammo and wasting ammo, and engineers on destruction and repairs.
>>723178602>Personal Defense Weapons are good at personal defense
>>723179278in what world is an smg a better rifle than a rifle
>>723179545in battlefield
Snipers seems extra gay in this battlefield. The other games you were constantly hearing the misses because people actually missed with them.On this one, you get domed no matter how many shots you’ve suppressed them with. I can’t even count how many times I was lighting up a sniper just to have them flick me with 1 hp left.
>>723142787>People paid for this firpslop
>>723177831not only that but closed weapons only get one pity playlist that's mixed modes and filled with bots
>>723142787Giving in to whiny faggots crying about suppression killed the game, snipers how have 0 downside to camping a mile outside the map, they can't be suppressed like in old games so their aim just works 100% properly even as you shoot toward them, so they get free kills.
>>723175536>take 2 weapons? ok enjoy 3 mags on eacYes, you absolutely deserve only 3 mags for getting a fucking second primary, fuck off you shotgun faggot
>>723177569>Didn't slug shotgun wookie in BC2Missed outGayCringe
>>723178275Why do people keep saying this? I don't have this problem on my xbox, must be a skill issue
>I have an idea! We'll merge ammo and health kits into one then remove weapon restrictions so you can now have the top meta weapons on the same class that has infinite ammo and heals and can revive too
Literally who gives a fuck this is a dead series
>>723181209>low quality trolling6 doesn't have the feature where you can hold a button and change underbarrel, mag type, scope, and barrel type while on the map. Changing it in the respawn menu is not the same thing.
>>723181318you don't understand bro, assault was overpowered in BF4 so that's why we need to make that class on steroids
>>723142787The gun balance is also dogshit, like 75% of the weapons are fucking terrible due to dogshit bloom.Somehow SMGs are better at long range than ARs simply because they have less bloom. Are the devs at DICE fucking retarded???
>>723178228is that mentioned somewhere?because i dont know what fucking weapons does anyone use besides snipers
>>723181919blind fanboys who support franchises not improvingjust like every other 5+ years old franchise
Did they fix the mouse input? It felt like ass in the beta.
>>723182945It's literally on the screen every time you select a class, Anon.
>>723182428He's talking about support.
>>723182428>assault was overpowered in BF4great, now we have Assault with Ammo, Medkits, Spawn Beacons, ladder that negates map design AND he can use every single weapon in the game. fair and balanced, way better than BF4
>>723183365i dont have 6 and i didn't saw it on 2042
>brother got bf6>it doesn't show on my steamjews
>>723183468why did they make BF3 recon a chinaman
>>723177031>Pick engineer>throw one AT grenade>entire building collapses
Where the fuck are the COLORS?Every single map has BF3-tier filters and only a single color pallette. Yellow or blue or gray. I don't want to have to change maps just to see another color
Is anyone else drone-pilled? I fly my spy drone high in the sky and give my team wallhacks by doing it, and collect endless XP. I end each mission with like 3 kills 3 death and 200 assists. This is insane.
>>723183562>BF3 recon a chinamanbecause they reused models. Assault's model is from BF1 and Recon's is from the japanese army in BF5
>>723183670of course, they're just trying to copy BF3 because they know everyone liked it but they don't actually know why people liked BF3 (it wasn't because of the fucking blue filter)
>>723183470ok
>Manhattan Bridge>Two of the points are on top of buildings where a single team can just camp the 4 rappels to the roofWhat the fuck is this map?
>>723183743>they're just trying to copy BF3in marketing and presentation, maybe. But it plays nothing like BF3. The gunplay, maps, class and vehicle balance are significantly worse. The people that made 3 knew what they were doing for the most part.
>>723143380Just delete the Recon class and sniper rifles already
>>723159960I use emdashes regularly, it's fucking hilarious that zoomers just found out about them and now have decided anyone using them is AI
>>723143281Ok cool, so the assault fucks off some where, fires maybe 20 shots since his ammo is halved, contributes hardly anything to his team and then virgin walks across the desert because none of the other primaries he can equip are effective at range? Oh nooooo
>>723184065>What the fuck is this map?no idea but how does it play compared to other urban maps with like Rotterdam and Devastation? The maps are literally the only reason I'm not sold on BF5. The ones in the beta were dogshit.Balance/gunplay/vehicles can be patched. Maps can't.
>>723184148>the people that made 3 knew what they were doingsure*queues up for Metro and equips a USAS12 with frag rounds*
So what's the USAS 12 in this game ?
>>723185348annoying faggy gun everyone uses?m4a1
>>723177607I get kills so you can camp safelynow play the objective faggot
post em
>>723185102>joins server>chooses loadout>has funyeah, they knew what they were doing
>>723187116is that the beta skin for the recon?
>>723187261i think so he kinda looks like a scrawny bitch compared to the UN recon we need a whiteboi recon skin
>>723185102Funny how this game was shitposted to death by /v/ (who was jerking off Vietnam and BF2 at the time). Guess it's true that zoomies don't know any better.
How do the drone spotting works for allies? I'm having trouble figuring out what shows people on the map and what shows markers on top of enemies.Is the drone marking enemies on top of their head or only the minimap?
>>723185102I loved Operation Metro. Trying to push through a literally wall of explosions and machine gun fire was a blast.
>>723187470>he kinda looks like a scrawny bitchwell, to be fair, half of the playable characters are literally bitches. I can suspend my disbelief but seeing a raill-thin 150lb carrying a fuly-loaded LMG + 50lbs of extra kit + ammo box does crack me up a bit
>Playing the campaign>Seems alright enough>Builds up this big conspiracy that the PMC attacking NATO was somehow funded by the CIA>Big climactic moment with a fade to black>Oh but that's the end of the story actually, no closure on anythingWhat the fuck
>>723163512Never played this one. Always wanted to try the Tarkov copy, though. Only primarily online game I ever played was Rumble, that shit's amazing. It's a real shame that VR still hasn't caught on, there's some real cool shit.
its good you know https://youtu.be/DfHvoKRSawg
>>723165708did nothing wrong
>>723187617They teased metro so hard in the campaign.
>Spawn in a Jeep>Run over a motorcycle on the street>The explosion disables the Jeep enginesasuga
I don't know what it is, but something about this game just feels really unpleasant to play from the beta. It's separate to the class and map changes etc, even when you're winning something is just off about it.
If battlefield 3 and 4 are so good then why don't people just play those?
>>723189215only servers that are left are the ones hosted in brazil and cheaters>>723189138i think the aiming in this game feels so weird. it just never felt right to me
2042 is and will always be the best bf. Was even better before they removed 75% of the variety by introducing aids classes. I bought 1942 new and played them all. It was for real fans that liked big maps, knew 4 classes was baby console bf, and wanted gameplay that wasn’t faggot metro meat grinders.
>>723170478On the plus side the people on the other side are awful too. Hop into a tank and just run people over and no one on the other side will switch to Engineer and try and stop you.
>>723189347the aesthetic is gay af. future shit forever will be gay
>gay faggot challenges and unlocks because literal retards need the dopamine rush from unlocking shit instead of enjoying being able to play with any weapon you wantmodern gaming is fucking AIDs and I hope the devs who implement and perpetuate these dumb fucking ideas die in excruciating pain
>>723189215Only players with 5000+ hours in the game are left. BF1 still has players though.
>>723170498You can't have an AI squad like in campaign? It would be nice to have teammates who actually responded to squad orders.
>>723189554I want to play bf1 but I don't want to give EA money, nor do I want to download the fuck EA app. Shame.
>>723177569I was a medic main in bc2 but if I was using the m1 or the thompson I would use recon for the shit's and giggles.>>723177569Sensor grenades did not even 3d spot in hardcore mode. I played HC and I had to keep a mental stack of where all my squad mates were and occasionally pause to check the big map
>>723144505The DICE that made 2142 is not the DICE that exists today.
>>723183541so anyone knows why?
>>723183541did he get it on steam
>>723183541kikes didnt allow family sharing on steam for that game anon
>>723164629Nigga you give wallhacks to your team
>>723191337How? I've only seen it happen once and I was puzzled by it.
>that guy who shoots the Battlefield theme with mounted turrets
>>723189215people still play 4
>>723144107this flys, but the grapple hook from 2042 was le bad i guess
>>723188250That's for battlefield 7.First time? That's exactly how all the campaigns go. 3 ended with you knocking out the feds who were interrogating you, killing the CIA goon who was trying to start WWIII, and sitting next to the nuke he was going to set off. Nothing in the later games with campaigns followed up on that.
>>723183270No its still fucked
>>723191993
>>723144338Assault can carry 2 guns, so they chose a sniper rifle primary, a carbine secondary and the grenade launcher is part of their kit.
>>723150139>Class balance in BC2 was borderline perfect.>Screams about Karl Gustav users.>Get easy K/D ratios of 5/1 or higher with Recon by switching sniper to a shotgun and throw mini radars everywhere.Oh yeah VERY balanced kek
>>723189215They're fucking dead in my region. I have no choice but to play whatever is new
>>723191206yes>>723191262oh well
>>723142787How many large maps did the game end up with? I haven't been following anything.
>>723194043operation firestorm is the only one that feels like a large map, and even that they made the spawn zones huge and shrunk the playable area and added clusters of cover and bullshitevery map plays chaotic as shit
why is every map littered with random dogshit junk and rubble and obstacles and dirt moundsit's claustrophobic even on big maps, feels so fucking ass
>>723194704That’s what people begged for. Just like they begged for smaller maps.Just like they begged for singleplayer that they don’t want to play.
>>723142787>t. Hasn't played the gameStop bullshitting. I've played for ~ 10 hours by now and have died to exactly 0 camping snipers. Assault is only good in cqb maps and modes, everyone runs engie and support. Haven't even seen one spawn beacon yet.
>>723143595>"they murdered muh camping" kys with extreme prejudice
>-200k concurrent players on their launch weekendWhy did they mean by this?
>>723159814Tbf the mortar could move to the recon, since all they do is camp backsides and rooftops anyway.
>>723191993What are the chances it was me.. I think I've done it in every match I've played :-}
>>723187116I'm having fun
>>723197012>buy game at release>having funno shit sherlockevery person you meet is a wonderfull person right?
>>723197090like you yes
>>723177831Yep and to "win the argument" they deliberately sabotaged the implementation of a fixed mode so that no one plays it and they can go "Look we told you open selection was better".Their shit game is already hemorrhaging players and will be completely dead by the end of the month, right when COD releases.
>>723193503>Carl GustavYou mean the shit that was nerfed within like 3 months after release? The Gustav fucking sucked against vehicles, the RPG-7 became the GOAT for anti-tank.
>>723197090Does it piss you off does it make you mad what are you my mother
>>723197341no it doesn't piss me off or makes me makeit makes me feel sad for you
>>723197407Uh huh bet you wish you could have fun huh well guess what only for me
>>723197546>wish you could have honeymoon phase like mei dont, dont worry about me pal
>>723197779I'm worried about you dude you're going to go back to eating glass or putting your hand in the oven or whatever
>>723175730The M60 feels really satisfying to use, nice gun sound.
>>723142787Medic needs to be it's own fucking class
the maps are so bad in this game.im not gonna buy it just because of the shit maps.
anyone else got disconnected?
>>723177404the obsession with giving everyone the same gun is hilarious
My only real complaints with the game are female soldiers and half the challenges being 'out of your way' shit that you'd never get in a million hours of normal gameplay.Maps I was initially skeptical of but most of them have grown on me. Balance wise I think the complaints are overblown, I still see a good distribution of classes in my games, even if some classes have strictly better tools than others (Support).
>>723199847a game like this should have 20+ maps on release, not fucking 6
>>723199923BF4 had like 10, this has 9. BF has, to my knowledge, never had 20 maps on release.
Imagine playing this slop
>>723142787>tell devs in beta the class balance is shit>>YOU HAVENT EVEN PLAYED THE GAME YET SO HOW COULD YOU KNOW!!!!!!>its exactly the same if not worse in the full gamekill every "its just a beta" faggot on earth.no exceptions
>>723170486no
>>723142787I regret buying the game.
>>723192819BOTH ARE BADretard
>>723142787I'm having a blast
BF1 was peak class balance>Assault is anti-everything>Support gives ammo and has artillery/explosives>Medic is Medic>Recon is Recon
>Join KOTH game>Columbia Heights>Leave game
>>723201162Trvke
BF4 was peak class balance>Assault is a medic with anger issues>Engineer is anti-vehicle>Support has ammo>Recon spots people
>voice chat is a bunch of dads yelling at their kidslmao its actually fucking true
>>723201440>voice chat are wagecucks complaining that there should be unemployed/employed servers because they "work too much to be good at the game"
>>723201162is BF1 still playable or are servers overrun by bots?
>>723161001>be right-wing wannabe nazicel>worships the migaturd movement and all the jews lovers Why are they like this
>>723200113NTA but the budget for this game was $400M and you're settling for 6 - 10 maps. Youre retarded.
>>723201776>>723200113And just FYI, Battlefield 4 cost 140m to develop, that is adjusted for inflation as well. So BF6 cost nearly 3 times as much and has i would say probably 2/3rd the content. Because 4 actually had a decent story to it, the story mode of this game is fucking non existent, like it liberally just ends with fuck all happening. Campaign for BF6 felt like a tech demo.
it's still class based, you just don't see the classes anymore, just weapon types
if it ain't broke don't fix itboth DICE and Infinity Ward had winning formulas and took a shit on it to try and innovate what didn't need innovation
>>723202197>If it aint broke dont fix it.What i would give for the industry to fucking learn this lesson, that all players want 99% of the time in a new iteration of a game is.>Graphical update>Bug fixes>New items/more items>New/more locations >new/more mecahnics What i wish they would stop fucking doing is>Changing existing working/like mechanics >Remove mechanics >Focus only on graphics and nothing else>trend chase.
>>723201440>Join match>Console nigger with a hot mic breathing into my ears with some retard screaming in the backgroundDo these fuckers not understand how microphones work? Every other match I've joined so far has had one of these dumbshits. I have never experienced this many people in a row who have never heard of a fucking push to talk button before.
>>723201440>>723202414this is why i instantly turn off ingame voice and or crossplay.Everytime im with a console player its always >Shitty nig nog music in the back>Some mongaloid chewing and eating into his open mic>Some one having a fucking conversation with another person that is not even playing the fucking game>Some retarded kid screaming>A domestic violence taking place.
>>723202414Push to talk should be mandatory.
>>723202409in the case of battlefield i would add>more destruction>dismembering
>>723202734Im indiferent to it, DESU i grew out of my "OMG GORE!" phase a while ago. Because eventaully it just gets to a point of its comical not even "OMG LE EPIC!" and i really would not wanna suffer more performance hits then need be.THAT SAID, depsite BF6 being extreamly mid, there is one thing i will give this bitch mad props for. BF6 performance at least for me, has been AMAZING. IDK how, i dont know why, and i sure as hell have no clue as to what voodoo magic they did under the hood, but im some how getting 60+ FPS on a 32:9 ultra wide 5k x 1440p monitor, using a fucking 2080 super. So like hey your game might have shit mechanic, but at least you optimized it so well done.
>>723202889>and i really would not wanna suffer more performance hits then need be.i can agree with that partbut if we follow that route we may aswell play like the retards who disable every texture in all multiplayer gamesi'm fine with disabling foliage and shit effects like smoke/screenshakein a ideal world we would have the option there for people who like it
>>723203223Personally I think graphic fidelity peaked in BF4, and honestly beyond that, its just epeen stroking and needless feudality on shit no one really sees.
>>723203353for me it doesn't matter much if we talk only about graphicsdoesn't feel like shit changed much since ps3 daysbut i guess its my fault for playing since 90
>>723203486Nah im the same way, Honestly which is why i think many games have regressed or just not gotten better and why i think a lot of younger gamers, including people in this thread dont understand why they never experienced. A lot of kids or young adults who grew up with xbox as maybe their first console or the 2nd gen xbox 360 and ps3 have only seen graphical improvement and even then its slowed down. Vs people who have been playing video games since the arcade and SNES days its been leaps and bounds. I remember going from 2 d to 3d and almost blowing my mind when i played jet force Gemini or Perfect dark, then playing the dreamcast, then playing PS2, then getting an xbox 360, like those leaps in tech were massive. Now its just "Oh here is 100 more pixels for 10 FPS please.
anyone having issues doing the support 3 challenge with the incediary launcher? seems to not register flame burning damage at all
>>723143380That's not all they did btw.
Do you have to subcribe to play online ?Who do you pay to ?
>>723183670>only 2 maps feel like true battlefield maps>one is a remakegrim. this might be the worst launch lineup in bf history. was 2042 or v any better?
>>723204728I thought they made you pay monthly to play these games
>>723144107>zoomies forgot about the best content to ever grace the series is from BF2:SF >they never got to use the grappling hooks to ambush entire squads with ease>can just continuously grab it after you use it to throw againJust look at this video. It's even more abuseable than this stupid ladder.BOOMER SERIES. ZOOMERS OUT. IMAGINE WHINING ABOUT LADDERS
>>723205315I FORGOT THE VIDEO LMAOhttps://youtu.be/PtBFnCmsf1U
I bet within a month, all those newbies who've never played the Battlefield series before will start complaining.The game is riddled with balance issues, and the map design is absolutely terrible.Then EA will announce they'll spend a year rebalancing the game systems.
>>723181318and the only class with smoke grenades
>>723205414What do you mean a month, already the steam reviews are slowly falling and every forum is complaining that the maps suck, progression with challenges sucks and the 'feeling' of BF isn't there at all.
>>723205315>hooksHooks are everywhere in 2042, no one needs them, and no one needs 2042.
>>723204708This pisses me off so much because one of the biggest issues with the bad map design is that it turns into a meat grinder front line, with 0 possibility for flanking. Rarely you could get around as recon and if you were lucky get your beacon down and let your squad start attacking from a new direction.Thats all fucking gone now, even if you do sneak around the device is fucking gone after everyone spawns.
>>723205508I'm not talking about that piece of shit, what are you on about
>>723205315>BF2:SFThats a funny way of saying BattleField 2142
>>723205480>already the steam reviews are slowly falling and every forum is complaining that the maps suck, progression with challenges sucks and the 'feeling' of BF isn't there at all.This is a good thing.It shows that players with real brains still exist.Many people have indeed realized this isn't Battlefield—it's an extremely terrible Call of Duty.
>>723205594the only vertical gadgets you could use in 2142 without flying in a transport were spawn beacons, the titan, and launch pods from an APC. Are you talking about something else???
>>723205315>boomer series>defending the most zoomer friendly entry that plays like CoD
>>723161535Medic was good but assault and support and recon were also sorely needed since they couldn't do anything with vehicles and had no access to destruction.
>>723202041You can but there's hidden aim nerf if you're using cross-class weapons.
>>723205734>battlefield 2 plays the most like CoD>more than BC2, 3, 4, Hardline, 1, V, and 2042????????????????????????????????????????To be clear I've enjoyed most of the series but????
You lost.
>>723205690No im talking about him saying "The best content to ever grace the series is from BF2:SF"The best content in the series is BF:2142I was being a shitter anon.
>"its just cod">its actually just an inferior version of the modern warfare reboot ground warhow can dice not compete with a 6 year old game?
>>723205984Ground War had better maps despite just being the Battle Royale map.
>>723205528>Thats all fucking gone now, even if you do sneak around the device is fucking gone after everyone spawns.Without the freedom to choose weapons, Assault can indeed help teammates push the front lines.No, these assholes are just using sniper rifles to harass you.
>>723205984Its not about competing, its about selling the same product. Why would you want to spend exponential time/effort when you could spend less and just do marketing? CoD/BF do the same thing, one appeals to 'authenticity' and the other appeals to fortnite. Then they switch.
>>723205935well honestly you're really wrong I'm just also being a shitter. SF and 2142 were both top tier and about as far as they could realistically push the reactor engine. I was so happy when 2142 revive was up, RIP
>>723206098BF2142 imo was just peak Battlefield, it was fun, it was silly, it had mechs, it had titans, to this day literally regarded as the greatest game play mode ever to hit a battlefield game and i would even say all of multi player shooters.
>>723206202I just don't understand. Do they think it's such a risk making another game like 2142?
>pick support>get an M4 (the best weapon)>Infinite revives>Infinite ammo>smoke grenadesBesides Engineer, why would you play anything else? The spawn beacon is also garbage see >>723204708
>>723206202>top tier sound design and soundtrack>cool as fuck aesthetics>despite being all about an ice age apocalypse, it also had desert/tropical maps since that's realistically what humanity would be fighting over if a giant fucking ice wall was making the entire northern hemisphere inhospitable>each faction had unique weapons and vehicles. They played entirely differently to the point of the PAC have a goddamned HOVER TANK. Honestly PAC had a broken AR>active defense systems allowed vehicles a little more counterplay but the alarm system on said vehicles could be bypassed if you used a goddamned ANTI TANK RAILGUN instead of your wire guided missilesJust cool as fuck all around. I could go on. I miss it so much
>>723170563this is true to an extent but no amount of cool skins will get me to play fortnite. there's a balance
What are you supposed to do here exactly except afk and wait for your dumb fuck teammates to die out to turbo fags abusing crouch firing, shotgun jumping around corners or get abused by vehicle fags who have nobody keeping them in check?
>>723206314>What is 2042?
>>723206089this latest product is inferior to the old one, but i suppose youre rightmw19 and 22 are long dead, so why bother?
>>723206564this isn't a good post
why does it seem like the more zoom you put on the starting AR it has terrible accuracy and more bloom?
>>723206550I just farm KDA at that point and stop caring about objectives.
>>723206519BF2142 also IMO had the best flight controls of any of the BF games i have played.
>>723142787Very tempted to buy this. Just looking for a mindless shooter to mess around in and I've always enjoyed Battlefield.
>>723206705when every time I go out there's a 3 squad that's covering every corner preventing me from sneaking up on anyone, any time I see an enemy, there is at least 2 of them aiming and shooting at me. Or I'm really far away and some fucker gets me with a lmg at 100m distance. How does this shit attract cod fags if it feels worse than cod?
>>723206742The VTOL was pretty fun and the TV missile for the gunner doubly so. That said the fucking rockets that would turn into proximity heat seekers were not really intuitive and had issues with tracking due to server lag. It was fucking annoying to see your missiles spin around the enemy VTOL in a giant arc like 5 times before self destructing. Still enjoyed it
>>723206697i think higher zoom just gives higher recoiltry putting any gun in semi auto and it recoils way less, its just balancing magicthe real issue is the bloom
every fuckin map blows so much ass on breakthrough and its always attackers that fuckin suck the most. and it seems to be the most side i get
>>723206550you could change classes or weapons to deal with people shitting on you in fact there's an entire class dedicated to destroying vehicles that you say aren't kept "in check" you dumb fucking shitter
>>723206960Yeah it's pretty much impossible to get brown zoomers to capture a point
>>723207058its ironically all niggers playin recon on most of the maps.or the tank just never spawns for us on marek
>>723142787Just play TDM, Domination or King of the Hill and all your problemas are solved.
>>723206651That was their intention and everyone hated it. Which makes sense because the operators were cringe and ruined the game. Now everything wrong in 6 is because they want to do the opposite of what they did in 2042.>2042 has high player and vehicle count with ridiculously big maps>6 has small player and vehicle count with small claustrophobic maps>both have open weaponsNevermind I guess that cancer was good enough to stay.
>>723207152>Just play TDM, Dom- ACK!
>>723207293the post I was replying to was implying>2042 is simlar to 2142it's in no way similar other than the fucking title. Fuck off
man the number of cheaters is increasing
>>723192851I'm only on the fourth level, but they mention Blackburn and Solomon at least once, the protagonist studied the incident during training and it's part of your commander and the bad guy's backstory.
>>723207028refer to the part where every time I play this game, the stars align to have at least 2 people aiming at me at the same time as I meet literally any enemy. Doesn't help that the game is light brown with shades of brown, have fun differentiating slightly different brown from lighter/darker brown apart!
>>723206550Nothing except wait for the game to end and accept you had a shitty team. Conquest is a garbage mode because there's only so much you can do.
>>723208093>because there's only so much you can do.The best option right now is to get a refund and wait a year until EA finally fixes the game's balance issues.
>>723191865You can use the laser designator or the recon drone and spot the whole enemy team. Or just ADSing will auto spot for you.
>>723208704Yeah, but what do they do that makes you see the entire outline of the enemy running around behind walls instead of just a dot over their head?
>>723168853The ladder is unironically my favorite gadget
This game gets real comfy after you start unlocking the good weapons and upgrades.
>>723209246which CoD map is this
>>723142787Nobody snipes with assault retard. You can't hold your breath with a sniper unless you play Recon. Combine that with Rangefinder rebinding and sniping is braindead and bullet drop is none existent. Have you even played since the Beta?
>>723209246>good weapons>posts the worst weapon type in the game
When I installed and first ran the game, it showed a video about the state of the world in universe. I remember seeing a sign saying "ALL EYES ON NATO" ('all eyes on' being a commonly used IRL slogan to distract leftist protesters from what's really going on). But I got called away by the cat, it wouldn't pause, and I assumed it would play every time I started the game. But I never saw it again. Anyone know how I can get it to trigger? Or if it's on youtube?
>>723142904If I can’t get 100 kills with the saiga12 on Noshar Canals is it really battlefield?
>>723209356You just said it yourself that sniping is easy. Even more of an excuse to not play Recon.
So with the open weapon system I can understand an Engi not being able to hold his breath when sniping; but how does it affect smg/ar use?
>>723209486It's easy specifically with the advantage Recon has, retard.
>>723209356There's also a bunch of videos in twatter showing that recon weapons have fucked up aim if you're using them on a non-recon class. It's not just that you can hold your breath.
>>723144504>online galactic conquest mode.how would that even work
>>723209246Such as?
>>723206839It sounds like a skill issue on your end. Most maps have flanking routes around each objectives that you should be able to pick off one or two enemies at a time as you move through them.
>>723209373that's the point, it's shit at the beginning, but becomes powerful after you get the right attachments
>>723187116how do you change your soldier on the profile page? I'm stuck with the porch monkey
>>723184238On 4Chan, though?
Can you change the recon nigger into a human being?
>>723210572Yeah, win 5 rounds of domination.
>>723142787I just play closed weapons hardcore anyway. You can enjoy the official COD playlist and stay away from the funzone.
>>723210572>sniper>humanI don't understand.
>in a party>want to edit loadouts in between matches>gameplay is instant from one match to other>exiting to main menu without party leader separates you from group>have to queue up to join their match>only way to edit your loadouts properly while not risking getting kicked is to have whole party exit with youwho the fuck designed this garbageALSO WHY THE FUCK IS MY COMPUTER LOUDER IN THE MAIN MENU THAN IN THE GAME ITSELF
>>723189138>I don't know what it is, but something about this game just feels really unpleasant to play from the beta.they turned up the bloom and now the gunplay feels like shit
>>723202414Stop being racist towards black people.
>>723210867You can change your loadout any time you spawn in. Read the prompts.
>>723144107lol
M60 is so fucking good. When playing Breakthrough on attack I am the fucking ROCK of the team. Infinite smokes and brutal suppressing fire.
>>723161342BFV did have the best classes and weapon types
GIVE ASSAULT BATTLE RIFLEESHave them have a slower rof than AR but damage between AR and DMR
>>723192851>>723207793Just got up to it, start of 4th level>Murphy: Haz? About Kincaid... What's the deal? You look like you'd seen a ghost.>Carter: Have you heard of Farouk al-Bashir? Henry Blackburn?>Murphy: Yeah, there's a whole module on it at the academy.>Carter: Yeah, well... I was part of that operation. JSOC. The plausible deniability kind. Border of Iran and Syria.>Murphy: The JSOC mission. What went down?>Carter: It was an SAS and Delta joint op. Gathering intel on Iranian chemical weapons.>Carter: Except there was a comms snafu. We got cornered by an IRG battalion and shit went down like you wouldn't believe.>Lopez: Losses?>Carter: Too many. US blamed the UK and vice versa. It was a whole diplomatic clusterfuck.
>>723211176>spend 3 min editing loadouts>get kicked for being afk
>>723211674>>723207793>6's campaign is the BF5 we would have gotten if they didn't decide to go to WWI and WWII with COD 1-3 campaigns
>>723143851Assault also doesn't get smokes, so the pushing class that's meant to push objectives doesn't have smokes to push. Medic has it for some reason
>>723211634So the 33 damage ARs?
>>723189138might be the bots and it might be that most of the players are bots
>>723205984Games don't try to compete with their predecessor anymore, they just stop support for the old one, turn off anti-cheat and let the hackers kill it for themNothing to compete with if the old game is unplayable. Imagine wasting time with things like new features, game design or listening to feedback from the previous title? lol
>>723142904Some of us played BF1 where they fixed it.
>>723177367Nah he's right. I remember finding it slightly weird and it was blowing up everywhere like DOOD THE BATTLEFIELD DEVS PUT A RENDEZOOK IN THE TRAILER THEYRE JUST LIKE US!!! and then I was vindicated when the game came out and turned out to be shit. Maybe it would've been fine if the game was actually good but something about explicitly trying to appeal to the core fans with shit like that and then not including a leaderboard on launch and calling it a "legacy feature" really fucking irks me.
>>723216017Really what you're describing are separate decisions from desperate departments.
>>723210572they have been trying to do that for 15 years
>>723216017>it's LE SHILLS and INORGANIC for people to be excited when they see something coolGet off 4chan for a few weeks and clear your mind.
WHATS THE BEST GUN AND BUILD
>>723210572remember when you could instantly recognize what role someone filled by a simple glance
>>723207786Anti-cheat bros….i thought this game was going to be hacker free…
>>723217338The people justifying the secure boot shit on /v/ even 2 months ago pisses me off right now. They said this wouldn't happen
>>723144505Literally a different era>>723142904Fpbp
>>723209246evil nigger
>>723142904BF5 had the perfect balance
>>723210147This. I was always a recon main in battlefield and it was the first thing I noticed. I have to look at ugly fat gorilla nostrils when trying to customize my solider. Why can't they just let us make our own guys to this day?
Playing sniper for the first time. I thought these sniper rifles were supposed to be powerful, but a chest hit at mid range does 80% and the bolt action gives them plenty of time to gun me down with their assault rifle. Do they get better?All the spotting tools are dope though. Is it worth it calling for a medic and slowly bleeding out if it keeps your motion sensors and drones spotting? (and typing this post)Also what button do I press on Xbox to switch to canted sights and back?
>>723218236Given how fast the ttk is and how blatantly overpowered smgs are you'd think the snipers and dmrs would kill in one or two hits.
This gun is so good, I think it's gonna get nerfed as soon as other players discover it.
>>723217209+15 Lightning M4A1 DEX FTH build
I find the matchmaking to be aids, 3 good games with my squad and we get sent to liberation dogshit. Now everyone on our team wants to Helen Keller cosplayers. Every fat fuck blueberry support doesn't know how to revive and they crash all air support start of the game. Squads keeps getting gunned down from enemy air and we get a full take over in record time. Never been more miserable with a game.
>>723218593change your tampon woman
>>723218236>I want to hide in a corner and kill enemy combatants from a distance of 500 meters with a sniper rifle using only a single bullet.You see how annoying shit can get if you made it that way.
>manage to nab the transport helicopter>anyone with an LMG can just shoot it down by themselfs>it dies to ONE RPG shot>every point has 2 AA guns on it, and the gunner operating them is fully protectedi dont care if the little bird was busted, choppers didnt need to get nerfed this fucking hard in this game.
>>723218593Just custom search and remove liberation???
>>723196312Learn to read, you third world nigger
>>723218890Annon we did that and still put us on maps and gamemodes we didn't want after a few maps. So as I said, matchmaking is dogshit
>>723217108i've been chasing the high of hot swapping between the zeller and the lambert in 2142 depending on if i'm doing silos or the titan, for 20 years. recon in 2142 was perfection and it's only gotten worserecon used to be so fun.
>>723217174Erm that's not even what I was complaining about. People can like it if they want I just didn't like the fact that they were putting it in the marketing knowing how fucking barebones their game is but at least you can do epic rendezooks LMAO!
ngl game is kinda ass
>>723219935grenade launcher yourself faggot
>>723218709Not even, I'm coming in close to plant motion sensors and I'm shooting these guys square in the chest from less than 100 meters away.Maybe I should be out in a far corner of the map until I level this gun up enough that it does real damage or unlock something better.
>>723219935yeah but retards will claim it's good until the next fotm captures their interest
>>723187116How do you change what character shows on your profile page? Mine shows the NATO Recon even though literally 99% of my playtime is Assault
>>723221298It's under the customization screen; something like "highlight on profile" when they are selected
