>filters people who suck at video games
The game that outed Naughty Dog as hacks who just chase trends
>>723249978>console game>into the trash it goesNext time post some pc games bud, okay?
>first game>unique platformer>second and third game>shitty ratchet knockoff
3 was too easy.
>>723250059Not really. They did that since their earliest games. Unironically uncharted 1 might have been the first time they were trend starters instead of chasers
>>723249978It's annoying at times, but not particularly hard.>>723250059>>723250079This. Instead of building up on a very decent platformer, it just bolts on some shitty driving and a plot that could have been written a by an edgy teen.>>723250081At least 3 had some driving that is actually fun, vehicles that actually felt different from each-other in significant ways, had some decent platforming and a couple of minigames that didn't suck.
>>723250081It also felt too much like a bootleg Mad Max game
>>723250059Does it matter if the game is fun?
>>723249978I'LL KILL PRAXIS.
>>723249978All I will say is fuck that jetboard bomb mission
>>723250614No, but for the most part the game is more tedious than fun.
>>723249978The entire series is great. Still waiting for Jak 3 to become fully playable on GOAL.
>>723249978fun game but fuck the mission where you need to escape the crimson guard in the water filled district of the city
>>723250059>>723250079>>723250448Get filtered shitters
>>723251628I'm at the point where my last 2 playthroughs I jet boarded past them on my first try
>>723250859It has more variety than 1 though. 2 and 3 are far less tedious unless you get triggered by having to travel to your destination which takes very little time considering the map sizes and objective placement
>>723252281I gotta look up how to do that, been thinking about doing a Jak series replay on my PS2 and CRT once Halloween is over. right now I'm playing SH3 for the first time and I wanna finish that first
>>723252369>It has more variety than 1 thoughIt certainly has more stuff, but for the most part it feels tacked on.>2 and 3 are far less tediousHow? 1 is a somewhat bare-bones platformer with some really well-polished mechanics, 2 bolts on some shit, while dropping overall polish.
>>723249978Fuck the level with the docks and the run to the final boss. Ran out of ammo and died so many times.
>>723251628It's not even that hard. The biggest fuck you mission in the game is the one in the sewers where you have to escort the idiots while the metal heads attack.
>>723253105that mission sucks too but I have an easier time with it, mostly because I am bad at avoiding gunfire on the hoverboard so I usually try to fight my way out
>>723249978>game was actually hard>scrubs complained>now ND only makes movie gamesbad ending
>>723252420Look into the open goal project. Jak 1 & 2 have been decompiled on Windows. Running them at 4k is a dream.
>>723250081It's the best post-timeskip Jak game no matter how much 2 fags seethe.
>>723252739Nice buzzwords but claiming it's "not as polished" doesn't mean shit
>>723253452it's a tough one because Jak 3 does start pretty strong and I do like the new guns but the city portion of the game is just kind of bad because the world design had to be split between the desert and the city
>>723250854DSP?
>>723253105>>723253232The one where you have to ride the board and turn on drills/pumps or something was ass also. It was a circuit and you had to press X at a veeeeeery specific time or your board didn't have enough momentum/velocity to get enough height for the tony hawk style ramps
as a kid, I love Jak 1 and 2 but thought 3 was boring and dull.as an adult... I feel the exact same way.1 and 2 are very fun and have a lot of great visuals and characters in addition to being challenging games. 3 is basically their beta for the PSP racing game and the entire game is driving around on sand.
>>723253669It's subjective but for me that's when the game gets good. I can do without the desert stuff, I always liked Haven City and the on foot combat missions thoughThe real problem with 3 is that it's made far too easy due to the new OP weapon upgrades, and Jak's health upgrades. Not to mention light healing just makes you practically invincible
>>723253770The jet board is one of those game mechanics that feels like it's broken until you actually learn it. Then those missions become some of the most fun ones in the game, jet boarding is fun as hell once you get used to it and learn how to trick/boost properly
>>723252216We aren't complaining because of the difficulty (i beat all three games), we are doing it because they completely changed the style of game.Jak 2 and 3 should have been an AU spinoff series and with us also getting a Jak and Daxter 2 collectathon platformer.
>>723254015Yeah once I got the sweet spot I could do the jumps properly every time but that mission was like the death of me absolutely infuriating "what the hell am I doing wrong" tier
>>723249978I finished it. I doubt I'll touch it again.It has a handful of good levels that got overshadowed by an over ambitious, under developed open city.Waiting for opengoal to finish Jak 3.
>>723249978Wanna know the secret of the Dock Level? Just keep doing this
>>723254180>we
>>723254326I just went into a fugue state after a dozen attempts and nailed perfect jumps while matrix dodging all the bullets couldn't do it again if I tried
holy shit that one dock level where you gotta escape with the hover boardi HAAAAAAAATED that mission
>>723254641>where you gotta escape with the hover boardYou mean the one in the Water District?
>>723254737yeah its early on-ish i think
>Docks>hardliterally just stop moving, stick back, and shoot every guard the moment they drop from their ship... your laser blasts will home in on the guards if you tap it and face Jak generally in their direction.
>>723254848they respawn infinitely
The Water Slums were my Vietnam
>>723254875The ships only drop off a few soldiers before they leave, then you move forward and then another ship ahead of you tries to stop you.If you approach the area the ships hover in while they are there, you get shot.If you do the same AFTER the ship leaves, it won't come back to that same spot.
>>723254848Yeah but if you die there is no way to get your ammo back unless you wanna try to melee the guards. Jet boarding through is the best way
>Jak 1Keira is your crush and showing midriff and toes>Jak 2Keira is distrustful of you and wearing closed-toe shoes now>Jak 3Keira is in a single scene and voiced by a different woman, Jak and her have no chemistry whatsoever anymoreSAD!
>>723253452Truth nuke.That being said I fucking love the whole franchise
>>723249978Some games are good hard and some games are bad hard. Jack II leans towards the latter.It has to do with difficulty curve and adequate signaling to the player.Castlevania feels like a gauntlet, Jak II feels like the game randomly decides it wants to fuck you
>>723256278Jak 3 is my favorite but also the most poorly written. The writers suddenly wanted Jak and Ashelin to be an item after 2 games of Jak and Keira and nobody bought it.
>>723250059thats literally what they did with jak 1, crash and Way of the Warrior before that. hell its all they ever do to this day
>>723256805Naughty Dog got into a spat with the voice actress for Keira. Not sure of the details as to what exactly was their issue, but as "revenge" they cut the character out of the series and its future while also firing her.
>>723254987The ships come back behind you as you go, you can't just slowly shoot through each wave, so you have to keep moving forward balancing getting shot from the front or the back, and the places the ships appear aren't just on a linear straight line, so its hard to avoid getting shot from one direction or another.
some autist did/is doing an entire series retrospective. Honestly the most in depth overview of the development ive seen for Jak. Dunno if people care about this sort of stuff but i really enjoyed it so i thought id shareJak & daxter (he's also got videos for 2 and 3)https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YWY-rX8rUw8
>>723257480First game is clearly goated. It's like Gen 6 Banjo
>>723256747>Jack
>>723253770>The one where you have to ride the board and turn on drills/pumps or something was ass alsoYOU ONLY HAVE TWO MINUTES
>>723257664I'm going to say it and I don't care if the tendies get mad.Jak 1 is the greatest platformer of all time.
>>723259167Jak 1 is a just ok Banjo Clone
>>723249978Why yes I did beat Jak 2 Hero Mode and got all Precursor Orbs alright, WITH a guide but even that would filter some tards, how could you tell?Only people who beat Hero Mode are allowed to reply to this post, if not, keep grinding scrub.Love this game to bits mah niggaz, for me it's the best Jak game, all "2" games were the best of the Jak, Ratchet and Sly trilogies, the holy trinity of PS2 platformers
>>723259509It has way more variety and scope. Worse pacing than Kazooie. Waaaaay better pacing than Tooie
>The on-rails shooter section out on the drill platform>First section where you have to shoot down multiple waves of jet-pack guys gets basically impossible on Hero ModeIt's funny that even with cheats the game finds a way to be bullshit.
>>723257228Holy shit you fucking shitter no they don't come back just like that anon said stop making shit up
>>723249978I need another J&D game and I need it NOW
>>723259875I just played it a few months ago, you are remembering wrong. It would have been way easier if it was as he described.
>>723260092Dude the reason why you think they "come back" is that the level has triggers you must walk into for dropships to appear, what you did was retread your steps someplace you shouldn't have and triggered one, but the triggers are not reset. I played this game since I was a kid and know it like the back of my hand
>>723250079There are a lot of mascot platformers, there are only a few mascot platformers with linear level design but nonlinear elements and guns, it's really just jet force gemini, jak, ratchet, and shadow the hedgehog of all fucking games
>>723250059This is the only good game ND has ever put out, you Philistine
>>723261193Erm, Jak 1?
>>723260420How could I have triggered a drop ship I haven't triggered yet by retreading my steps?
beat this game when I was 8 what are you people smoking
>>723250081Correction: It's too easy until you get to a random mandatory minigame that's 50 times harder than everything else.> Leaping lizard race> Daxter riding the missile> Daxter Pacman
>>723250081I felt this way too but I also did it to myself because I played it with cheats on since you could unlock them so early. Honestly don't know how 3 actually compares difficulty wise to 2 because of that.
>watch a bunch of videos on Jak 2>they all complain about how hard the game is>remember I beat it at 12 with relative ease
>>723249978I barely remember this game. was it good?
>>723262086eh, it wasn't BAD, but you can safely skip it if you were going to re-play the trilogy
>>723259565I agree, all 2 Jak gamesJak X and Lost Frontier
>>723261716Same I remember watching the fireworks and then coming upstairs to my siblings watching the finale of home alone 2. This was back in like 04 or 05, the fact that full grown adults on this board can't beat it is very telling
>>723250059You're one of the filtered faggots OP is talking about kek.
>>723262243>but you can safely skip it if you were going to re-play the trilogyFuckin zoomers man
>>723262681What? For all intents and purposes, it is a trilogy. Daxter is a spinoff, Jak X is a racing spinoff, and Lost Frontier, let's just not talk about it.
>>723262873>if you replay the trilogy you can skip 1 out of 3 of the gamesDumbass
>>723262873Anon, they were talking about Jak 2.
>>723263030>if you replay the trilogy you can skip 1 out of 3 of the gamesYeah, it's not really worth the time investment if you've already beaten it before.What's your issue again?
>>723263346You are not "replaying a trilogy" if you skip a third of the games kekNot that hard to grasp
>>723261986It's not that the game is necessarily hard, though getting gold on some challenges can be a bit of task, but rather that the game has weird spikes in difficulty, goes from being a fun breeze to suddenly having missions where you actually have pay attention, giving the illusion that these sections are harder than they actually are.
>>723263420Are you so retarded, that a concept of a hypothetical plan and an advice on that plan eludes you?Well, I guess that's what you'd expect from a Jak 2 fan.
>>723263346I feel you anon I just replayed the whole mass effect trilogy but I skipped 2 and 3
>>723249978Hero mode that one mission where you're in the turret and have to shoot the flying guards was utterly ridiculous.Fantastic game though.
>>723263528I'm gonna go rewatch the whole Lord of The Rings trilogy but I'm gonna skip 2. I'm still rewatching the trilogy though
>>723263636>>723263539Yeah ok, I'm going to rephrase it in a way you retards can understand.If you'd tell me you wanted to ride your bike, hit your self in the nuts with a hammer, and then eat some ice-cream I'd suggest you skip the hammering part.
>that one escape mission at the docks
>>723263980Upvoted!
>>723250059That interview confirmed it.
>>723263980Those 3 things aren't an established trilogy though anon. If you're having this hard of time understanding the logic behind all of this then it's not surprising the game was too hard for you
>>723264315I'm sorry you have the 'tism, anon.
>>723263981I glitched my way out of it years ago, escaping in the water with the hoverboard and the turret that was supposed to attack never appeared.Imagine my surprise when years later some retarded speedrunner discovered this strategy and it became "widely known" that you can just glitch yourself out of that mission.
>>723249978Imagine if Naughty Dog went back to making cartoony games like this
>>723264364I'd rather have tism than be a jeet who doesn't know what the word trilogy means
Naughty Dog cinematic hollywood platformers are barely even games, they're like Sock'em Boppers to boxing gloves.
>>723264420>Daxter is just a human in a fursuit>Jak gets killed by Erols daughter who they wrote in to subvert your expectations>You play as Ashelin who now has small titsHere's your modern Jak and Daxter bro
>>723264420DELET
>>723250059https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=uhmYENdFZc8
>>723264603https://www.myautism.org/autism-help-hotline
>>723264735>zoomie calling Jak and Daxter "cinematic hollywood" gamesWut lol
>>723264763Kek
>>723264851Ask them what the word "trilogy" means while your there
>>723264896They are. There is zero depth or nuance to any of the mechanics, all the hitboxes are massive, the timing windows last forever. They put more emphasis on voice acting, facial animations, and cutscenes. If you compare them to any "hardcore" scrimblo of that era or before they just don't hold up.
>>723265343Mario's gay as hell pal, hate to break it to you
>>723264763You just reminded me of the story of Jak X Combat Racing. Thank you.
weak
>>723250063>console board
We were robbed
>>723263430I never beat a bunch of those gold challenges, fuck the races speciallyI remember being hopeful when I saw the times were "easier" on a bunch of tracks that unlocked later until I found out that was because you had to drive them in reverse to they were still hard times to beat for me at the time anyways, maybe they're not actually hard
Jak X was the best game in the series. In fact, ND was better at making racing games than any other genre they worked on.
>>723266557Some of the races is basically just keep doing them until you learn every single mistake, and avoid them.Not hard from a technical point, but requires you to sit there and keep doing them over and over again, until you learn every single trap, and then dodge all of them.A bit like a shmup in a sense.
Which developer do you think can make a proper Jak game that takes place in an alternate timeline where all the future shit doesn't happen and is instead a direct sequel to Precursor Legacy?
>>723253105That one filtered me on my most recent playthru
>>723267305Asto Bot devs
>>723256993Least spiteful jews
>>723261716>>723262419Kids are naturally better at games
>>723267587
>>723249978My little 10 year old armhairs rose when Jak said: ''I AM GONNA KILL PRAXIS'' and turned into a badass dark demon with claws. I don't care if this is just some trend chasing shooter. I can count on one hand the amount of games that made me feel as hyped as I did when playing certain parts of this game.
>>723251628Its easier to just hoverboard your way out of there.
>>723266141There's no way anyone unironically wanted this
