Remember when Tekken was cool and underground?
No, 6 was my first.
>>723282695I do. I'm also having a laugh at all these secondary niggers having a meltdown over the new character
>>723282695I don't remember when it was underground but I do remember when it was cool
What's the consensus on 8? I just got 7 not too long ago and I'm getting infinite replay value just from learning moves in training mode.
>>723282695I remember when Tekken had character themes for music, stages that looked interesting instead of solely existing to serve the story mode, kino intros and attracts, and generally being aesthetic as fuck
>massive corporate product>undergroundHuh?
>>723282695>Tekken>Underground Did you forget that this was an arcade game first?
Remember when tekken had sick music?https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9wR4QIOX3cg
>>7232834788 is probably the most disappointing soundtrack in the series.
>>723283478I sure doI don't know what the fuck they were thinking with 7 and beyondhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NruNjhJkT00
Welcome to the Kino of Iron Fist Tournament 4
>harada and murray are total faggots that don't want to fix the game>namco are greedy money grubbing scumfucks that charge you for frame data>cut out characters to sell them back to you>game series is entirely knowledge checks and this is intended behaviour>standard FGC faggotry like corporate worshipping etc>genuinely pay to win DLC charactersI could go on but holy shit, I've never seen a series destroy itself so hard since MH World
>>723282695the models literally looked like they were ripped straight from virtua fighter
>>723283548Make some noise!
Why did everybody hate this bitch? She's actually pretty hot if you change her hair.
Tekken 9 will save FGS
>>723283636Heh, jokes on them I didn't buy any DLC.
>>723283636Still crying about world in irrelevant threadsLmao
Tekken 5 is the worst game to me because it brought THOSE people around. It's one that is pretty good and has a lot of content and innovated the genre but it also streamlined a lot of stuff from 3 and 4 and now we're stuck with full goof nuggets and the fucking ANNOYING ASS fanbase. Formless like water is still a bop though
>>723284151>thread is about the destruction of a once beloved series>retarded newfaggot fails to see how world is relevant
What's the point of learning all those moves when you can get decent results from just memorizing a few and abusing the rage shit?
>>723284220MH series is doing better than ever. Your kind will not be missed
>>723284246You don't abuse the rage shit. You abuse the heat shit and only use the rage shit when the opponent's heat shit becomes unbearable
>>723284336Tekken 7 and 8 are selling extremely well, but they're dogshitLike how World and all post-World MHs sold well but are complete shitThe average person like you is a fucking retard
>>723284447The average person is enjoying video games, like me :)
>>723282695>undergroundnever? you fucking clueless zoomer faggotyou were not even alive when tekken 1-3 were around
>>723284014Tekken lost it's identity. They need to reboot the franchise. Short combos, no meter, completely redone animations and models, cut down on the particles and effects, no guns/projectiles, all the characters based on a martial art. Maybe use the characters from Tekken 1 to start.I doubt they can do something like that, now that it's a "spectator sport".
Why the fuck is the dude from Walking Dead in Tekken 7? And more importantly, is he fun?
>>723284528YesHe needs to come to 8 already
>>723284498Juggling is what ACTUALLY killed Tekken
>>723284498>completely redone animations and modelsI tend to gravitate towards newer characters because their animations look nicer. Aren't the older characters using the same animations they've been using since the first?
>>723283478tekken 8 has great trackhttps://youtu.be/2g7KUg64Qe0?list=RD2g7KUg64Qe0s though
How many of you even fucking played tekken 5
i like T5 Bryan's laugh https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LyFrQ8nfuOc
>>723284741I've played them all since 2, 6 was a warning and 7 was the turning point
grabs ur cock
>>723284602>Ree I hate being juggled!Cry some salty tears, you won't ever beat a real gamer.
>>723284853You don't play though?
>>723282902Why? The character is horrible, Tekken 8 is horrible.
>Wah SoulCalibur keeps infesting my game>The Heat mechanic is not inherited from SoulCalibur, which reset to neutral>Which could cost you your super with bad meter management>Unlike Tekken, which followed MK's retarded design philosophy for some reason>Everybody keeps calling the new girl a Seong Minga clone when they saw her pole shit>Is actually Cervantes>But actually mostly True Ogre Stop blaming SoulCalibur for whatever the fuck Tekken is doing
>>723284602This is like when people say Sonic isn't about going fast.
>>723282695what? By two it was already insanely popular on PS1 even normies had it
>>723284689Not as good as anything from T5, 6 and tag2
Why are the skeet fighter input characters so OP?
>>723284498>Wah SF5/SF6 is bad why won't they do what I waaaaant>Ignore every other fighting game that do what I want>Waaaah Tekken isn't doing what I want>Ignore every fighting game that does what I wantYou deserve everything that happens to you
I like Tekken 8, but I hate that the season 1 character pass went on sale only once.
>>723282695>one of the best selling ps1 games>undergroundzoomers are so fucking retarded. larping faggots.
>>723284786Six still had some of the decent stuff, but yeah I guess I can agree. I still remember side stepping in 7 and thought I was being gaslit into thinking this was how it was suppose to be. It felt like shit.
>>723284741i started with tekken 5. I played tekken 4 recently for the first time and i really liked it
God I love making recolors.
>>723285048It was the vibe and emotional tech space of the game, not the sales numbers, that made it underground
>>723284962Post your favorite track from those games
>>723285014>only available on PS4 via PS+Anontachi...
>>723285160>emotional tech spaceyou just wanted to make this thread to say this, didn't you
>>723285213OK I was shitposting with that one, what with terms like "frutiger aero liminal vibe" being thrown around
>>723284853You never played older tekken
>>723284741I have it on the psp and tekken 6 as well.
>>723285212What the fuck are you talking abouthttps://store.steampowered.com/app/3112260/Virtua_Fighter_5_REVO/
No? Soul Cal & Bloody Roar were better.
>>723285373Well I'll be damned, I'm wrong.I could've sworn they made this PS+ exclusive
>>723283316Tekken fans are absolutely retarded.
>>723282695>Remember when Tekken was coolYes.>and underground?No?Are you thinking of Bloody Roar?
>>723285201https://music.youtube.com/watch?v=RRSAjbw2uds&si=P0QL2HtI0DVTBkS1
>>723284905See>>723285328Juggling was a high end skill that would result in one or two extra hits on your opponent. Now it's a requirement due to the bastardized mechanics of NuTekken. Ironic you mention Sonic cause going fast in older Sonic required skill and knowledge of the level, unlike nuSonic where it's a literal button press.
Why does everyone hate Leeroy?
>>723284853>>723284896>>723285014Shut up, Murray. Your game fucking sucks.
>>723285478LEEEEEEEEEEEEROOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOY
>>723285014VF is boring as fuck
>>723285328I did play 3, 4 and 5 and then later 7 and 8... I literally have beaten some "tekken pros" in online matches with more supposed gameplay hours in Tekken than me, lmao. CRY MORE FAGGOT.
>>723285527Then you don't get to ask for a Tekken without bullshit in it if that's how you feel.
>>723285483Motherfucker I am literally shilling a literal different franchise are you illiterate
>>723285478Bit of a Gary Stu
>>723282695Tekken was never underground but it used to be cooler, true
>>723285478I dropped off in 8. Did they buff him? He wasn't really that good for a while there.
>>723285745I mean I didn't buy him just because he looks like he stinks but I was just wondering if gameplay wise there was something broken about him. The only DLC I have so far is Geese, Lidia and Eliza.
>>723284818Why did they make her a retarded sleepy vampire?Why is she even a vampire in the first place and in that situation of being in the tournament?She just isn't explained at all
>>723285201Electric fountain
>>723285886He was broken at release in 7 from what I heard. At evo Japan that year I think like 6 of the top 8 players were playing leroy
>>723285527I wouldn't say it's boring, but it's hard as fuck. It asks much more from the player than Tekken, since movement is so difficult (you can't backdash and block like in Tekken) and all the action is so close and fast. Most of the fight you're literally at dick-jab distance.
>>723285935She has some relation to Lily. I barely know any of Tekken's story, I just think she's fun.
>>723283268It's amazing how much worse the aesthetic of Tekken got over recent years.
>>723285201I'm fucking boring, I know. https://youtu.be/flVVZb3v5-U
>>723285527it's definitely boring to watch, and what makes it boring is the lack of spacing. Spacing creates tension. Apparently they're gonna repeat the same mistake in vf6
>>723285886>>723285947The reason he is "broken" is because he forces aggressive characters to turtle up and bait out his counter throws and only then attack. It slows the game to a halt. He's not strong by any other mean than being unreadable until you bait him. Wing Chun man of Tekken but done wrong. Wing Chun should be more aggressive and only employ counters during a string of a combo.
Tekken was never underground but 2 is still my favorite in the series. Top tier music, atmosphere and Paul still wasnt relegated to a joke character.
>>723286108You say this yet you want power-meter and super-move tag battle which is not what old heads want at all in fighting games. Third Strike solved this by allowing pure skill to dominate with parries to set up counters.
>>723286254
I used to think this guy looked so damn cool that if I ever found a genie I'd wish to look just like himStill think it's a killer aesthetic desu
>>723286184Doesn't that just lead to Geese
>>723282695Tekken 3 was the good tekken game
>>723282695remember when Tekken wasnt just about Heihachi's family?
>>723286334>MUH TURD STRIKE IM A VETERAN BROThere it is
why did tribal tattoos ever get popular
>>723286417Geese is a 2D character that doesn't belong in Tekken.
>>7232830658 is shit based on the demo alone. 1 button combos.
>>723286397Jin is the physical manifestation of the 00s.
I really don't understand why the top players always switch games, why don't they stick with the actually good games? Well I do know, it's because they have no integrity and are corporate whores
>>723286082That's just it though. Were told nothing about her. No explanation at all. ffs leroy has more of a backstory
>>723286456>I can't mention third strike.The fear zoomers have about Millennial gamers, you are going to be whooped all the way back to Street Fighter 1 in any real game that isn't slop fighter.
>>723286468They want to appeal to the American (negro) market.
>>723286582>generational gibberishYou don't play Turd Strike, it's a garbage crapcumshit game
>>723286494Okay? He's still a offensive counter character. Conceptually the problems would arise in whatever identity that kit belongs to. The issue is that because Tekken is a game built around trying to force a whiff punish that its a bit more telegraphed for counter characters, hence why lows fucking suck at high level play.
>>723286572She's tits and ass DLC with clothes that magically triple her breast size. What more do you want?
>>723286334no i don't want power meters, i hate supers and all this crap. But spacing is essential if you want to emulate what a real fight look like.
>>723286567>Why don't top players who are making money stop playing to make moneyI really don't know what to tell you but players don't have the influence to force corporations to make them bend. They'll just give money to whoever comes to the next game, so they just prostrate.
>>723282695>Remember when Tekken was cool and underground?tekken was the game people played if they were too cheap to play time crisis
>>723286715Like I said, zero integrityWhat they should do is see how garbage the new game is, then refuse to move on until it's fixed
>>723282695Tekken was never underground. Tekken 1 was on the cover of most every mainstream video game magazine, and was a top earning arcade game of its time. It debuted at #1 on arcade charts.
>>723286619negros can't get tribal tats it doesn't show up on their skin
>>723286683What you're trying to say is you want a game where you move around and try to force a whiff punish. Pretending that Virtua Fighter doesn't have spacing is ridiculous. Stages matter so much more dramatically in VF than Tekken because of this.>emulate what a real fight look like.Also that's just retarded to say
>>723284498The Tekken you want is pretty much dead and gone. You should look into VF6.
>>723282695I remember going over to my friend's house in 2002-2003 and playing Tekken 4. He was obsessed with it, but i had never heard of it before.
>>723284602this. the emphasis on juggling and knockdowns + all the stupid particle effects turned Tekken into a blender shitshow
>>723285584It's boring aesthetically. Music, graphics style etc. it's why it NEVER takes off. You gotta have somthing appealing to bring people in
>>723284741I did but I dropped it because it became all about juggles.
>>723286683Have you ever watched UFC or Boxing? The fighters create the pacing through their actions.
>>723286184just grab brab bro
Alisa my love.
>>723285582Yea yea I've heard all of this before. I also beat Tekken pros in my pass time
>>723286956Virtua Fighter music is definitely not boring. I deem you a secondary.
>>723285478cheap flurry combo moves that get all hits in. also pulls a weapon out of his ass. Nigger privilege
>>723285935She was always a sleepy vampire. She's a joke character that was hidden away in Lily's basement. Don't overthink it
>>723286839>tages matter so much more dramatically in VF than Tekken because of this.this can barely be called spacing. This is just choosing to sidestep in the right direction when you're against the wall. This is positioning. Spacing implies the gap between you and the opponent>What you're trying to say is you want a game where you move around and try to force a whiff punishYes what's the problem with that?
>>723286254Paul was a beast in the originals
>>723286956> it's why it NEVER takes off.I actually don't even know what to say. This is a genuine fucking child who thinks he can just say shit without knowing the fucking history of the franchise he's talking about. Virtua Fighter FELL into obscurity, sure, but was one of the biggest IPs in the world. And it suffered like any other Japanese giant did and it was the needing adaptation to the HD pipeline. And you are hilariously out of your mind to think Tekken doesn't owe its entire identity to Virtua Fighter on its massive contributions to 3D fighting games.Get the fuck out of here, you fucking child.
>>723286468Mike Tyson>>723286751Wait, your Time Crisis machines cost more? That's rough
>>723287009Brown and ESL, get out monkey.
>>723286769>then refuse to move on until it's fixedBack in the day when economy, income, rent, bills and career situations were stableish that was feasible, but these days if you don't follow where the money matches are you just end up lacking in funds, relevance and awareness of what's going on.
Thoughts on Claudio? He seems a bit Jojo-esque.
>>723286683play the TOBAL gamesgrtdg
>>723287190He's one of the best male characters in 7.
>>723287258Nigger I know how popular it originally was and what it's legacy is, it's why it gets so many chances and new games. but your nostalgia googles are fully rose tinted if you think VF can appeal to anyone other than a small niche these days. There's nothing appealing about it anymore. It's like a sad dude that peaked in his highschool years and is trying desperately to relive them.
>>723287128This is a generalization but not every 3D fighting game needs to reduce character kits to just forcing that window for a whiff punish. YOU CAN LIKE IT and I won't deny that I don't see why you like it but not every 3D fighting game needs to obey that prerogative. I like stances, I like mixups, I like projectiles, I like counters, and they work in DOA, VF, and SC because those games are designed with them in mind.Pretending that there are characters that can't force distance or rush in Virtua Fighter is genuinely dishonest. As I said before, stages literally shape a character's gameplan so hard. Lei-Fei is a monster when he's on the larger stages but you box him in with a ring out on either left or right and suddenly he has to make up for this.You don't have to like Virtua Fighter but come on, man.
>>723287281>Called out>instantly chimpsNo u
>>723287190that's why he got nerfed so he wouldnt beat the shit out of Heihachis never ending army of nepobabies.
>>723287496I mean storywise. Now he's a designated joke character
>>723287601I know he whipped Kazuya into place but did he ever get a chance to go against Heihachi? It's weird now to think Kazuya and him were rivals
>>723287509Motherfucker, you and I both know everything you just said doesn't fucking matter. The sales are in the hands of the casuals and Sega is going to make the game photorealistic. Its going to sell. What's going to determine its tournament run is retention and you might have me there but Japan LOVES Virtua Fighter. VF3 tournaments are literally happening as we speak.Stop talking like you KNOW what you're talking about. Its fucking embarrassing. >Hur IPs can't come out and make money>Just ignore SF6 outselling SF5 >Just ignore MK becoming a giant despite after 9 despite the MASSIVE gap between 9 and its last game>Just ignore that Tekken 8 still did numbers DESPITE HOW LONG WE WERE STUCK WITH TEKKEN 7
>>723287621No he still kicks ass. Just because he acts like an idiot doesn't mean he's a joke character.
>>723283478Fuck this is very nostalgic hearing this, I loved Tekken 3 and I'm not even a fighting game kinda guy. Shark Attack for Yoshimitsu was my favourite move to cheese people with.
>>723287621cant have a white boy take attention away from japanese family drama.
>>723287720I've heard this tired fucking >I-It'll sell this time!cope too many times now to even care desu. Keep living in your sad bubble. It doesn't really matter to me
>>723287767Kek it does but whatever
>>723283478https://youtu.be/AFLu-g6z8S8?si=TPuW1NqUNG0Lgj_6
>>723288182>gets beaten by lili once>vanishes from the franchise
>all those coping comments on nutekkens ost about how "heh youve just gotten old the music is still great old man"People really are slaves to corporations
>>723287540i don't know what to say, i disagree with your definition of what spacing is. To me what happens in vf is positioning. >SCThe best example of how spacing can make something entertaining to watch. Each character has a unique way of approaching and keeping distance>You don't have to like Virtua Fighteri never said i dislike vf
kekken was never good
Who are the worst characters in the series?
>>723288262I don't know why either sides are pissing themselves when you have the jukebox to just pick whatever track you want since 7
>>723288349Extremely retarded postThe music was once iconic to Tekken, now it's replaced with retarded wubwub shitThere's a reason the only song from 7 people like is Infinite Azure 1
>>723288320Alisa. Just a shit character in every wat
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nhhey0DFvoM
>>723283478It still blows my mind how much gaming grew in last 2 decades. Original FF8 and Tekken 3 combined sold less copies than Hollow Knight.
>>723288396Cool, then play the iconic stuff
>>723288425How dare you.
>>723287767They should have him win the next tournament even if he doesn't save the world or whatever.
>>723288473You can change the music in 7?
>>723288479She's a character black hole. Destroys any interesting development of any character that chooses to befriend her
>>723282695the death of pride FC and the rise of UFC killed martial arts outside of kickboxing into ballsniffing grappling so tekken has had to become increasingly about magic super power shit instead of "yeah this martial art has a lot of fake bullshit but this punch will still kill someone if you land it square in their temple" stuff the series built its identity on
back when tattoos were edgy and rebellious
>>723288473t.
>>723288538Yea, PS4 only feature for some reason
>>723288568>I dont like it, so NOONE IS ALLOWED TO LIKE IT!!!>NO YOU CAN'T TELL MEN TO NOT LISTEN TO IT REEEEE CORPORATE BOOTLICKER REEEEWhat a manchild
>>723288667If you genuinely don't understand the point then that's sadGet Harada's cock out of your mouth
>>723288704The point is you have a certain taste and the modern games don't hit that taste, so you proceed to sperg and cry like a manchild. Get over it and use the jukebox, you absolute cretin
Tekken 8 is my first and I think it's fun.
>>723288769>listen chud the geniuses at namco never make mistakes, it's YOU that's at fault>there is nothing wrong with the music>there is nothing wrong with the gameplay>paying for frame data is fine>harada genuinely hating the series he's head of is fine>paying for legacy characters despite promises they'd be free is fine
Tekken's AI seems dumber than Soul Calibur. SCVI's AI absolute reams my ass on legendary and even very hard depending on the characters. But after only a week or so of practice I the only character that can stop me is the boss version of Kazumi.
>>723284896but she has the one talim move
>>723288819I'm not reading your sperg out. Usethejukebox
>>723288320all the Mishima babies,, robogirl, Bryan(Bruce variants), Raven, all generic kickboxing titty girls, spider-bitch, Claudio, Lee, angry spanish man, Sagat-man, any devil characters, off the top of my head.
>>723289046Is there anyone you actually like?
>>723288542yeah UFC rules favor jiu jitsu, A LOT. Unfortunately it's what became popular over the years
>>723288793yeah/ like that ugly tranny that sucked your dick in middle school
>>723282695>undergroundno. what a weird zoomer revisionion. tekken was always extremely popular and enjoyed by everyone from loser weebs to dudebros alike.
>>723289107most of the OG cast cuz there was variety in the move sets.
>>723289179Jokes on you buddy I'm a virgin.
>>723289323Half of the original cast were reskins with clone movesets lmao
>>7232826952?
>>723289121unified mma rules removed most of the Vale Tudo stuff out of the UFC. that's why Ufc got flooded with Dagi villagers
>>723289413which was the style at the time
Why is it that some people can autistically count frames while others can't play fighting games at all? What is that mysterious component that some people just seem to have?
>>723289326even more pathetic. self-own.
fighting games peaked with Def Jam Fight for NY
>>723288456And yet, the overall quality of games has sharply decreased as the medium became overrun with normies and soulless executives shitting out slop to feed those tasteless normies
>>723289529you already said it. autism.
>>723289529The game tells you the frame data now. But regardless, it's the desire to play better. Your gameplay improves drastically when you know what you can punish with what moves.
>>723289574Shut up chud the games are perfect, just fix them yourself, like this guy suggests >>723288962>>723288667
>>723289529Giving more a shit about developing a skill, than appearances/ego.Almost anyone can skate, but only people who aren't afraid or ashamed to fall flat on their face in front of others will learn to skate well, or at all.
>>723289543>you didn't get a blowjob from a tranny? Loser!Damn bro pick a lane.
>>723289529Interest in understanding the underlying system. Wanting to understand why you lost an interaction/fight, and get better at the game without relying on gimmicks and parlor tricks. Most people don't want to invest that time.
>>723287258that's like saying sega saturn was the most popular console in the world. Japan is just one place that is irrelevant to us, we didn't live there dammit
>get better at gimmicky party game without relying on gimmickTekkucks are so cute
>>723289685I spend a lot of time in training mode. I was always better than anybody I knew IRL but if I ever went to a tournament I'm sure I'd get rekt pretty quickly.
beating Kazuya in Tekken 2 put hair on my chest
>>723289121>>723289482>fight starts>bjj niggas immediately:i hate this so much
>>723289813that gut punch was pretty cool back in the day.
>>723289742Yes, when I played Tekken 3 back in the 90s I had to learn to play against Eddy, or I would lose to anyone that picked the controller and mashed the buttons.
>>723289852its fun watching these buttscooters get slept when they try bullshit like the imanari roll.
>>723289884it still is. i'm a zoomer but i started with tekken 1 and ive been plaything through the series with breaks. tekken 5 is next on my list. tekken tag tournament is my favorite in the series so far. just such a amazing game. has not aged at all
>>723289543Are you retarded?
>>723285014You don't even have arcade endings, dead or alive is just superior to VF in every way
>>723289617Don't put words in my mouth, you little seething nigger rat. I hate everything else about nuTekken. But the music problem literally fixes itself. If anything, I'm surprised they didn't sell the old music as dlc
>mfw I had to endure a Street Fighter elitist telling me why Tekken is shit
>>723289940I have no shame being as cheesy as possible against Eddy. One of my greatest weaknesses is combos that start low or alternate low and mid.
>>723290126>starry eyed 12 year old me: It looks so real
>>723290126SF ex is one of the greats.
>>723290276So sickhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OM7AKydOV70
>>723282695>undergroundI remember when Tekken was incredibly popular and mainstream starting with the very first entry. Is that what you mean?
when did they stop focusing on the story and single player modes and focused on online instead?
>>723290432See >>723285160
>>723290719T7. 6 was a nice blend of both
>>723290719The story is still there. Nobody cares about it because nobody cares about single player modes in fighting games after like 2005. That niche has been completely eroded by action games.
>>723282695Tekken was taken over by niggers. It's a niggers game now.
>>723282695>Underground>Tekken 3>One of the most popular games of one of the most popular consoles ever.well personally I prefer this little hidden unknown gem
>>723290809That's just fighting games in general.
>>723290908The vibe of the series was underground, like Wipeout
>>723290934>This AAA game? Total underground vibeslol
>>723290934It ceases to be underground when literally every kid around you has the game.It's most played multiplayer game after like smash or Mario kart in an entire generation
>>723287274Time Crisis & Initial D were a dollar, MvC2 & Tekken were 50 cents. You played fighting games when you had more time to kill but if you were just trying to do something for a bit before the movie you played Time Crisis. Initial D was played by weirdos
>>723290980Zoomers just don't get it
I was the only kid in my school that played Tekken. I even tried to get some of my friends into it and nobody cared.
>>723290927>That's just fighting games in generalMaybe that's why fighting games are dying out, people don't want to play with niggers.
>>723291018>yeah only the coolest gamers play this underground game that sold millions of copies and was an international successDuped by marketing award.
Remember when soccer was cool and underground?
What causes the brain of the Tekkuck to be so small? Thinking a million selling series is somehow underground is just absurd
Yugioh? Such an underground series.
Come the fuck on my entire school had tekken as one the main games in replay.If you went to a 64 kids house you psmash, Mario tennis or Mario kart and if you went into a PS1 kid house you played tekken 3, winning eleven or tony hawk pro skater
Anyone ever play this little gem?
Tekken is more popular than mortal kombat if you think about it
Settle down dude
yeeeeeeeeeep they sure don't make hidden obscure gems like tekken 3 anymore
>>723291272The kids in my class that owned Playstations had shit taste. They all had sports games and dudebro shit like Tony Hawk.
>>723291328Mk would have been more popular if they ever put out a coherent story.
Actually sold less than T3>>723291475Mine would usually have a soccer game, tekken, tony hawk, some KOF (mostly 97), and Jackie chan stuntmaster.I remember also renting with my friends a lot of Rampage
>nu-tekken is so fucking bad people have abandoned talking about it in favour of memories of the good games
>>723291652The most fun we had at the Playstation kid's house was playing the demo discs.
T8 is fucking dogshit. I hate it so muchThank god i stopped long ago with it.Still, I miss tekken. Yeah sometimes I play tag2/6 online (thanks emulator), but there's not a lot of people there
>>723290934These tards (most likely brown third worlders) don't understand what you mean by underground
OK then genius, explain to us plebs how the fuck a super popular series that sold millions with each entry be underground?
>>723292447It doesn't mean underground in the definition of obscure. That's all I'll give your, turdie
>>723285014The new face models are so fucking ugly, they killed the old stylized faces for this dogshit.
>>723290980>>723291012It's not underground as a reference to popularity or profitability, it's the aesthetic and tone. That's how people sometimes used to use the term underground at the time, like Playstation underground or Need for Speed underground for example.
>>723287190>>723287621No one cares about stories. They care about the gameplay.
Need for Speed Underground was called that because it was representing the actual underground sport of street racing.It wasn't of course actually underground
>underground aesthetic and toneLiterally what the fuck does this even mean
>>723292835TO THE WINDOOOOOOOOOOW
>>723292868like 2000s shit, lots of tribal tats and low rider jeans
>>723292828Shut up you insufferable sperg. You can have both
>>723292868Zoom zoom
>>723282695I remember coming home from school in 1997, probably March, and seeing pic related in my bookcase. My dad had been and bought it during the day. Didn't knew what it was but I popped it immediately.
>>723292978Tribal tats were above ground appealing to normies.> here you can have your safe and non-offending non-gang related tattoos that look edgy and cool uwu.Normieslop.
Alright, we've busted OP's tekken balls long enough, I gather by "underground" he was referring less to reception and more to the ever vague modern mindset of something's "vibes", with how the cast appeared to be a blend of self interested, stoic and seedy brawlers.Unfortunately even there he's off mark, anyone who was born before the beginning of this sentence likely already knows or has been told about Street Fighter taking from popular culture. The same applies with Tekken, Devil Kazuya lifting from Devil Man, King from Tiger Mask, the Jacks from Terminator.The thing is with time the references began to draw from more modern pop culture as it went on which is why we got Naruto's creator on Lars, two faced influencer elements with Lucky Chloe.Honestly though I can't think of many fighting games with a roster and image that isn't affected by pop culture reference and shifts, aside from maybe Smash Bros of all things but that has its own direction hurdles.
>>723292656>Stylized Faces.Were only as such because of hardware limitations.
>>723282695Tekken 4 = best TekkenTekken 5 Dark Ressurection = best gameplay.
The vibes bro...the underground vibes...
>>723293789>Best tekken.No, 5 was best hands down.
>>723293156Nigger underground aesthetic is not the same to underground regarding popularity. How many times do you need this explained to you?
>>723282695Tekken was never good.
>>723294265>is that a backdash??>AIIIIEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
>>723293036Dude. I've been playing Tekken since 90s. Yeah, the intro movies and ending movies were fun. But they didn't define the experience. The experience was defined by actually playing the games with your friends and improving and learning. The stories and endings were just there to show the characters but they had absolutely nothing to do with the actual game play. I don't care the reasons Paul had to enter the tournament. I don't care about Steve being Nina's son. I don't care about Xiaoyu's obsession with amusement parks. They are fun tidbits but they have nothing to do with the actual gameplay. I don't care if Paul's story is more humorous and Mishima's stories are more serious. They don't matter in the fights.
>>723284741I did, it was good but has much bigger issues than Tekken 8 has but all the poser faggots pretend it's a perfect Tekken game
>>723294371>much bigger issues than Tekken 8Elaborate
>>723283461Unless he's a japanese geezer, probably not. It was practically a simultaneous release with the PS port in most places. I figure he's either saying back when the PS1 was underground or a refernce to pic related.
>>723294414Damage being overall much, much bigger, character balance is much worse with Steve, Feng and Devil Jin being ridiculously strongInformation spreads much faster now so everyone could easily find the mixman 80% damage combos off one launchJust off the top of my headMost people who clamor for people to play that have no idea what's in store for them
>>723284741I played 4 and 5 in the arcades. Had the data card. Mained baek, and dressed him like a 1920's showa chap.
>>723294370I played since T1, I did all the same stuff but also thought the plot stuff was cool. Especially since you never really knew the "true canon" until the next game came out. It was fun to speculate with friends on the playground. So again I i tell you to shut up, you insufferable sperg. I don't give a fuck what you like and dislike
>>723284741Yes?
>>723294312>>is that a backdash??No, not really. The backdash is constantly being canceled, which makes her look like she's moving without walking, just with her legs constantly twitching. It makes the game look like shit.
>coolNo. Never was. Still isn't. Never will be, because fighting games have actually gotten less and less popular.>undergroundAs "underground" as any fighting game that isn't Street Fighter, Mortal Kombat or "current popular thing" I suppose.
>>723294960And to be fair, Tekken was "current popular thing" once. The third one, I think?
>>723283268Seems like a world away now.
Tekken 3 was anything but underground what the fuck. Everyone who had a PS had it.
>>723295053But...le vibes...
>>723282695>when taken was undergroundas someone who has been a nerd for longer than this franchise has existed, it was never underground. It had a massive marketing push in Japan for arcade and ps1 copy went platinum in the first year, every ps1 tekken went plat. The only not overly successful tekken games were ttagt1 and tekken 4 because the only major selling fighters at the time were mortal kombat and musou series took its place for 'you get what you expect and its good'
>>723282695Tekken 3 is still peak Tekken
>>723283065Noobs will mostly never get into it because it's a mountain to learn everything, so only legacy players will like it. If you lose them, then Tekken 8 might as well not exist. So it's a dying game in a dying genre.
>>723282695>first time playing Tekken was 3>loved it since>became my favorite franchise>T5 happens>didn't like the story direction but the content made up for it>T6 happened>whatisthisshit>animeshit characters introduced>juggle up the ass>once I platinumed it never went back to it>TT2 happes>freaking loved it>also looked damn good even to this day>T7 happens>the graphics looked worse than TT2 somehow but the gameplay was still fun albeit a bit casualised>Season 3 releases>insane damage/juggles/wall carry>T7 officially ruined>T8 happens>My least played Tekken game to date at only 22 hours of playtimeI don't think T8 will ever get fixed, the devs are doubling down on anime themes now.
>>723295990Do you retarded normalfags even understand what you're saying
>>723295990no opinion on tekken 4?
>>723295990The only good point in your post is your image showing how Asuka is ruined
>>723296124I very much do have an opinion on T4..>over hated>underappreciated>the best OST in the franchise>damn good story (the last Tekken game with an actual story)>no animeshit whatsoever>great aestheticsIf Namco could combine the gameplay of T5DR with everything I listed above from T4, would have the greatest fighting game to date.T4 Paul's story alone outshines whatever dumbass shit they've tried to do since in terms of story telling, it's just a mess at this point.I mean look at this:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xqms1K6Gm6sI really, really miss when Tekken was still grounded, now Jin is flying all over the place.>>723296068>>723296136We have arisfags on the loose here, but got more of bad modern Asuka design for you tho.
>>723296474Fuck wrong pic.
>>723296474amazing sound design and atmospheregreat single player contentreally loved the tekken marathon against flimsy robots game mode.also lets not forget the most iconic character designs imho.
>>723283316Tekken and Tekken 2 were underground. Nobody gave two fucks about the franchise before Tekken 3, the game basically everyone knew and played, and that put Tekken on the map.
>>723296685To me the character designs too a massive dump, in the past they always looked cool yet simple, now they are all over the place.
>>723288456Yeah because Hollow Knight is AAA game and had 60 dollar price tag at the time of it's release.
>>723296884Good lord tekken 7 was ugly.
>>723286751>Yoko TaroWait, really?
>>723282695just rerelease Tekken 5 with good netcode and modern QoLthen keep adding Soul Calibur and Final Fantasy shit to T8
>>723296840Every T8 design has been a dud. But it's a trend across all fighting games. SF6 and GG Strive are just as bad.
>>723297267T5DR is so good I'm inclined to believe Bamco does not dare bring it back because it would diminish T8 player numbers and thus DLC sales.
>>723297281Reina is a great addition though. And a chunk of older characters look the best they've ever been.
>>723297391Achievable natty?
>>723297404Nope, you can't turn your head into panther's head and see through your new eyes nor make panther sounds.
>>723297482Maybe you can't but I can because I'm built different
>>723297324It'll take away from their TWT esports thing too
>>723297391King looks alright precisely because he's barely changed over the years. But look at Jin, Paul, Hwoarang, Yoshimitsu. All look worse. The females generally look better though.
>>723296840>Tekken 7 HwoarangHonestly what were they fucking thinking with that design?
Now that I think of it, why couldn't they give rework Tekken's counter hit system instead of tacking on more mechanics like heat and rage arts plus drives?
>>723297725Because the dev philosophy is that casuals love to button mash and keep giving them more options to button mash.But when I play the game with my casual friends, Heat and Rage Arts is precisely why they get angry and stop playing.
>>723297653T8 Hwo looks really good though. I think both Yoshi and Jin are better in 8 than 7 but both also have pretty good designs elsewhere. I'm not a fan of them to begin with though. Paul's haircut is a pretty rough downgrade.
>>723297869I confused T8 and T7 Hwo. Yeah you're right.
>>723297725How do you rework a counterhit system? I will say it seems like the entire cast needs like 3 less counterhit launchers at minimum. Counterhit mini combos like a guaranteed followup is much preferable than the fear of pressing into Bryan leading to near certain death.
>>723283268Tekken 2 was my first, sometimes I'd sit in practice mode with Michelle, Kazuya, Heihachi or whoever just to listen to the song on repeat whilst I did whatever. Last one I picked up TTT2 and it was mildly fun for 10-15 hours but couldn't get invested.
No, I just miss when tekken had fun rosters that werent just generic humans.Didnt get Tekken 8 because of how boring the available characters are.
>>72329823290% of Tekken rosters were always human. If anything they've gone too far with the outlandish character designs and movesets. Nobody feels supernatural anymore. Even Devil Jin is grounded compared to some other characters.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PjAIN4sNr5w
>one string into oki does like a third of your healthI do not understand the appeal of older tekken
>>723298335I wish Tekken went back to being visually comprehensible again.
>>723298408>get launched and watch a minute long comboDon't think anybody could ever understand how that could mean fun.
>>723297941Different scaling, effects, depending on what move they beat out. I agree that counter-hit fishing shouldn't be prevalent amongst all characters.
>>723283819because it's just gender swapped raven and nothing more you coombrained retard
>>723285582>I literally have beaten some "tekken pros" in online matchessorry i had to go afk because my house was burning down
>>723298283Im the faggot who liked to play Ogre, Alex, Roger Jr, Gigas, Jinpachi, Yoshi and even Bosconovich.All I got is Yoshi now, and thats not worth an entire game for me.But I see what you meanMonster just arent popular, I get that...
>>723299147Roger Jr should have been in the roster IMO. Instead of Panda which is just a Kuma clone.
>>723297653>>723297717I think T8 Hwoarang is the best he's looked honestly, at least since 4. Jin and Yoshi look really good too, Paul is unbelievably awful though.
>>723299298Paul's Karen energy made his populary sky dive in T8. I'm glad though because he's utterly brain dead overly evasive unga bunga machine in T8.
>>723298408Oki that you do yourself instead of the game doing it for you
>>723298335>Beat Heihachi Round 1>1:00 >"Round 2. Fight" >2:00 blasting while the instant replay goes Fuck yeah
The new generation of artists have done the series a huge injustice.
>>723296840seems like every game series goes down this route and its likely heavily correlated with a game becoming popular and its board directors then pressing the big profit button.the designs like in pokemon are just throwing in a whole bunch of random colours and lines as if the extra detail makes for good design but it looks cluttered and fucking stupid. they look like deviantart fan designs
>>723298519The funny thing is that people were already complaining about combos getting too long in Tekken 6.
>>723282695which one is better for playing tekken?
>>723302585My brother complained about it in T5 when he got launched lelI think it's part of why Tekken lost its casual mainstream appeal. It got too bloated.
>>723302691Depend on the character:Mishimas: stickEasy input characters: Alisa, Lars, Asuka, Lidia...: padHard input characters like Nina, Bryan... I don't know. I never play them.I never try hitbox either.
>>723302585they were getting too long in 5 already
>>723298519>that retarded comparisonlmao, only faggots will fall for thisthe combos are just as longT7 and T8 have rage arts, which for anyone with working eyes are the cutscenes shown in the video made for ants and are a staple of fighting games for almost 2 decades nowdo yo also complain when a finishing move is used in SF, KOF, MK, or literally every other fighting game?my god, when even jeets can play tekken better than the tekken /v/tards, you know this board is a laughing stock
>>723302843Nah leverless all the way gramps, leverless is good for the new inputs. Lever is good for the old games though.
>>723303015"The Boost" or whatever the garbage 2D shit is what Tekken 8 added and Chip Damage with Damage Recovery if you stopped a combo and juggled back.
i remember playing tekken 3 against my grandpa lmaoofc i was the obnoxious idiot who chose eddy x+o spam
>>723302843>Hard input characters like Nina, BryanAhahah, what? How the fuck are Nina or Bryan hard? :DDD
>>723283512bad ragebait 8 has the best music out of all the ps1 ffs
>>723302695>Each character has access to a list of 10 hit combos, some easier, some harder.Just pick the one you can smash 24/7 because how EZ it is. But yeah, too long combo strings are bad gameplay, like 15 combo should be the max unless its an anime game that does the rule of cool with it and its actually fun to watch what happens because its absolutely shitty on purpose.
>>723303229Tekken 8 background music is just trash kiddo. Annoying music made for toddlers grown on coco melon and ADHD meds.
>>723303015>do yo also complain when a finishing move is used in...KOFDepends. When I pull off Chain Drive it's peak, if a long MAX is pulled off on me, it's trash.
>>723303314i uhhhhh misread your post anonthought you meant final fantasy 8 lol
T3 and 4 are masterpieces.Also I love my wife.
>>723285014VF has no style. The cast look like background characters in their own game.
>>723284741Tekken 5 vanilla sucks ass, I would say it was my least favourite Tekken until 8. People confuse 5 with DR which basically made 5 into a functioning game with a semblance of balance.
>>723303535Tekken 5 was awesome for 99% of players who didn't bother looking up all the broken shit online. It was the perfect local competitive video game. This was the days before online patches so stop pretending it was somehow an outlier in being broken compared to the Tekken games that followed after.
>>723303015i complain about cutscenes in any fighting game and i especially complain about them as combo enders
i always thought tag 1 was the shit and i was surprised from t4 and onward it never became a standard to have a tag mode in the games like doa did.
>>723303015you could've made a case that it's an unfair comparison (average t6 combos vs. t8 combo that requires two resources) but you completely botched it with a non-argument about cutscene supers not counting for combo length because they are a "staple" in a bunch of other fighting game franchises. who gives a shit?
>>723303780Yes it's criminal how they were too bad at implementing Tag mode into the mainline games.
>>723303380So crazy how Tekken 4 has the best design for literally every character in it and after it they went in the exact opposite direction for everything.
>>723283268>stages that looked interesting instead of solely existing to serve the story modeDon't tell me Tekken 8 stages are not interesting? They're as good as ever. That's probably my favorite thing about the game, I just never get tired of the Coliseum, that dojo with walls and nioh statues, the Paris stage, the beach (especially at night), the Heihachi stage with autumn leaves. Most of them are super cool.
>undergroundTekken the most popular fighter and the only one making (good) money from 1996 to 2008. Until SFIV.All thanks to its appeal in consoles where the sales were.
>>723283819OG Raven was deleted because Wesley Snipes got fired.Then she was shoe horned in.I still miss her but we will never get her back.>>723283478https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EEw6LZ_bh_I
i love the way kuma and panda look in 3 it's so charming
>>723305118and still more 3d fighting games use VF's control scheme rather than Tekken'si have never understood their obsession with a dedicated block button and not just holding back like tekken and SF
>>723284741>last mainline game where Baek was still playable Rip
>>723305378>Kuma>Panda >Rodger>Alex>True Ogre>PJAww yiss
>>723305118SF2 was never an console game. It sold on Arcades.SF3 was the same thing it sold on Arcades, later it became the cultural game on few arcades (later emulated to FightCade in 2014 where it lived off).Also the knock off games like Alpha Fighter or the 3D games were forgotten in to redundancy when Capcom tired to try new things.SF4 was the first big console release making Street Fighter relevant first time in consoles. Mortal Kombat was also on fire and Killer Instinct. It's only real rivals. All this time Tekken 2-6 dominated on the console with no real rival. It was mix of Smash and SF where people tried to play casually and competitively. Now later Tag 2 releases and with Tekken 7 making Tekken very relevant on the competitive scenes.Then Murray released Tekken 8 and killed the whole franchise
>>723296840Tekken 3 Hwoarang in his training white and blue stripe getup followed by biker Hwo in 5 are still his best iterations.
>>723305432I think Tekken is the best but I understand the allure of dedicated blocking button because with that you need to make the conscious choice to block, not just do nothing or step back.
>>723284741Tekken 3 is the only good game in the series
>>723283478https://youtu.be/aDYNrEBdkQc
>>723305835I think it might make sense if there also was sometimes a reason to not press or hold anything. But usually in the block button games, if you're not pressing or moving you should be holding the block button. So at that point it's not much of a "conscious choice" but just what you do by default.
>>723306064https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MdVSemGR_vo
>>723302691All the best players use stick and none of the gay leverless homos.The 2nd placers are using controllers.
>introduce a new brown>but no Katarina, Christie, etc.
>>723306064mecha dale gribble is my favorite jack
>>723306258>later iterations removed early model screams and bullet casings ejecting during his machine gun tauntsI don't like it
>>723306240One brownie pie per installmentThough I think Josie will drop too.
>>723305378>game lets you play as an old Russian scientist with a freestyle movesethttps://youtu.be/gZ67nwCfow0
>>723286905spastic range 0 framefighting is Tekken's failure mode but it's where VF starts from
>>723284987get cancels in a game without cancels
>>723285449tekken juggles were always easythat said they were definitely shorter and fuck bounds
>>723296685Tekken was one of the first games to sell 1 mill on ps1 poser kun
>>723282695it was never undergound retard, pretty much everyone with a ps1 had atleast one of the games and the series was massive in the arcades
>>723307984It was underground in its presentation.
>>723303015>do you complain when there's a cutscene in a fighting game?kek what a retarded point. Yes you moron, i don't want to watch a cutscene mid fight
>>723308421What does that even mean?
>>723303380>T4I think you meant to say T5.
>>723309623You had to be there to know.
>>723309623nta but i think he's talking about the aesthetic and atmosphere, but as far as i remember, T4 was the only game that went with the underground aesthetic
PSone era tekken was the goat, right balance of goofy, camp and cool factor. Now, its straight up fanfic 10 bucks worth animu shit
>>723282695>Underground
>>723282695>undergroundI really wish this was true, but...https://youtu.be/s_gBxse0Xoc?t=143https://youtu.be/s_gBxse0Xoc?t=170
Tekken 6 is where the series truly went full retard. I don't know why Tekken feels the need to go bigger and bigger with each new entry. Now you have events going on a global scale, characters transforming and destroying cities. What's wrong with a simple tournament with big bad at the end? Characters having their own personal reasons to be in that tournament. It doesn't need to affect the entire planet, stop with this Mishima shit already and the rage mechanic is fucking retarded.
I miss miguel :((
>>723285014based vfshill
>>723286334it's incredible how vf fans go full defense mode as soon as someone dares to criticizes their game. It looks bland, yes it's fun to play, but it needs to be fun to watch as well. >b-but they need to cater to the REAL fans and not newcomers How is that working out for you? vf5 is dead, no one plays this game, no one watches this game, which means that it will lose support eventually if vf6 follows the same path
>>723305432in VF you break throws by holding P+G and then the direction of the throw which is why holding back to block just wouldn't work in VF without a major revamp to the controll scheme, you need to be able to press back at key momentsso its not an obsession its just how it bei wouldn't hold out any hope that vf6 changes this in any way
>>723282695Harada just have shit taste
>>723298519special style yoshimitsu is peak fun
>>723282695You do know that Tekken 3 was one of the most popular PS1 games, right?Probably more popular than 8, even today
>>723310353>Remembering short one-off references on a single-season show from 1999 that never reran.Impressive. Eidetic memory?
>a bunch of fighting games got new characters and updates>the only fightan thread up is about tekkentekken wins once again
>>723283512Very bad take, no Tekken game has bad or disappointing music.
>>723282695Yes I was there 1996-2002
genuinely what happened to tekken? i feel there was a shift around 6 where they started with all the shit we have now, by that i mean god awful anime characters, taking its weird anime story seriously, longer combos, rage, etc. it used to be about exagerated martial arts, with a sprinkle of anime, movement felt much better and moves had a LOT less range and uses in general so you had to think more since commiting to moves had risk, even the graphics looked better, now its a bloated 100gb game that looks like shit because of UE5, plays like shit and every characters is a stance machine, you only want to get in someones face, mash endlessly and steal as many turns as possible because as soon as you stop they start doing the same thing to you
>>723305712>SF2 was never an console game. It sold on Arcades.obviously you weren't alive in the 90s in Europa.
>>723318121Tekken 5 fucking happened you dumbass
>>723318121Bad decisions and a growing snowball of stupid complaints in the internet.
>>723310904As someone who cares too much about the lore, it really bugs me that the last three tournaments all got cancelled because the Mishimas were busy with their war.
Tekken was always mainstream. A huge arcade title an a major series for the playstation.
>>723321857What do you think about King becoming bff with the murderer of his mentor? Personally it made me stop playing King and I started maining Armor King II instead.
This is your cute new Ogre/True Ogre, please be nice to her
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8BeZnwyYsQ0This was the real deal
>>723324702TT1 endings were kino
>>723285014This shit is more mashy than murray could ever hope
>>723283478i get why fighting games have bangers but man when you are playing a long set against someone that is close in skill level you really want the well paced esoteric tracks https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eZruuChErXo
There's a weird balance with Tekken where 8 is in a bad place due to unrelenting stance pressure from characters like Anna, but a large amount of people complaining are complaining about it are doing so in the context of eating 20 year old Junkyard mixups and not stepping extremely steppable moves.
>>723283478now add the 130 million piracy copies
>>723284689generic, i can't even tell this is from a tekken game by the style.
TEKKEN has been an institution for as long as I've existed.
>>723285014What fighting game is doing what I want from SF?Every game has some retarded drive rush function now. The only modern game I like is KOFXV.
>>723291123It's not underground in the "indie" sense of the word you retarded nigger.
>>723326707The only black disks I ever saw were the demo disks kek
The dojo has an amazing tune in tekken 8 fr no cap.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D-EfmNm7XLo
Can someone explain why they decided to put Forest Law in Tekken 3 when every previous and later Tekken games have Marshal in it?
>>7233313623 tried to do a next generation thing. Everyone hated Forest so they brought Marshal back.
>undergroundYou mean Urban
>>723284741I did and still do.
>>723322416>Marduk wears AK's mask to bait King into a rematch>"I've changed my ways."I forgot how dumb T5's story was at times.
games used to mean shit
>>723332190What is even the difference between them
>>723285430He means the 1990s London underground music scene.
Tekken 1-3 was leading the culture of videogames at the time, the characters were one of the only things ever from Japan that were not anime dragonballz inspired stuff, they were drawing on fashion, music, real life and culture, kind of in the same way that only Yakuza does now, Kazuya being a Yakuza style character only affirms this point. That music and style in those games was appealing to west and east at the same time, unlike now where it's bifurcated.The reason Tekken is a shadow of it's former self is it no longer gas that appeal. Character customisation I'm particular, was the final nail on the coffin.You have to admit even if it's the same team leads, Tekken 5 onwards and maybe even Tekken 4, is like as if a new studio took over the franchise, like crash 4 it's about time. They just lost the magic of it. Whatever they do with the series now it's legacy tributes to things that were once iconic. They wont recapture relavancey because Tekken was once more than just a fighting game, it was a pioneer into 3d gaming and the millenium era, just like Lara Croft, solid snake and the rest of the beautiful works if art of that time.What we have now, if you think videogames are art, which is debatable, is like getting new teams in to make sequels to the works of renaissance painters. Tekken was a third place before it was a fighting game. Now it's just a parody of what it was, and not even a loving parody. It's like a Chinese car boot sale knock-off of the original thing, but with great "gameplay".We need to realise while gameplay is King, there are things more transcendental than regalness.
>>723322416I could see it as it's in King's character to forgive and help people at their lowest point like when Armor King helped the first King get his life back together. Though he did beat the shit out of Marduk.I still don't like Marduk as he feels like a background character from another characters ending that gets beat up.
I still haven't heard wtf an "underground aesthetic" is
