VTMB2 Toreador Trailerhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p5bbHM5zSUQ
What the fuck is this shit?Why is everything le serious, moody and melancholic?Where is my campy and sexy vampire story Bloodlines is known for?
>>723319215I wanted to play as a Toreador but this video made me not anymore.Why isn't Malkavian a choice...
literally me wtf
>>723319345Exactly how familiar with Vampire the Masquerade are you?
>>723319479Nobody cares about your shitty gay tabletop game for trannies
It reminds me a lot of Swansong, which, as a game, was quite fixated on Toreador iconography, particularly the blood dens and stuff.Also that chick with the collar. If I'm not mistaken... is that the same chick from the mortals dev diary? The one who thought people were trying to kill her?
>>723319215That was way more fucked up that I expected a Toreador trailer to be. Not bad, not bad.
>>723319215Last clan to ever pick, not surprised.Still doesn't even look as bad as I expected
>>723319739It is her.
>>723319479>Exactly how familiar with Vampire the Masquerade are you?This is Vampire the Masquerade BLOODLINESA very specific production that has it's own, unique characterWanna make something totally different? Remove Bloodlines part and replace it with anything else
>>723320639It's not their fault that Bloodlines basically did nothing with the Toreador.
>>723319345....the game is about vampires
>>723321556Cool I'd still rather have the Lost Boys than Twilight
I can't imagine how ugly and sad and lonely people who pick Toreador are in real life. So many cool clans yet you're so devoid of sex irl you want to be the "oh my entire personality is flirting" vampireGuess it's fitting for troons since troons have zero pull irl and are porn addicts who wish they could flirt with people and people would like them back.
I want a thick creamy, glass of Patience juice.
>>723319215game looks fun, I'm not too familiar with the clans, I tried playing the first game but ohh the clunkiness ohh it's just so old ohh
>>723319215Games gonna suck..
Everything I've seen points to clan choice having a huge impact on quests involving those clans tonally. So when you're a Toreador, interacting with Toreadors, it matters. When you're a Tremere, interacting with Tremere, it matters.
>Fabian already annoying 10 seconds in the trailerVO mod when?
>>723322323Fabien is the protagonist, moreso than Phyre. You would essentially completely break the game.
>>723321618I like to play a Toreador who dislikes and heavily shits on the likes of VV, Jeanette, the black primogen in this case, shit art and posers, and lowly seduction and manipulation tactics. I'm not sure how well it's gonna work out in this game with regards to dialog options and what the other characters treat you like, but I'll grab the Banu Haqim outfits and abilities to be stealthy and understated and act as though all the other Toreador are annoying attention whoresI truly hate this direction of hedonistic "diva" Toreador that's forced in V5 and taken as a template in VTMB2. Isaac was a pretty cool guy
>>723322414You seem to think that I mind that in any way?
>>723319215wow very cool, thank you mr marketer
>>723322484You do realize your vampire toreador powers are kissing people and flirting with them, right?What a strange thing to do.I'ts like going "oh i'm gonna be a brujah in a suit who loves rules and hates anarchy"
>>723322671>B-but the writers intended for you to do things their wayLol
>>723322671>You do realize your vampire toreador powers are kissing people and flirting with them, right?Yea, that's the big issue for me as well. I'll see if it's possible to never level that at all and if so, I'll just go straight to the Banu trainer and be an assassin. If not, I'll either never use it, gaslight myself into headcannoning that it's just a profound stare in the guy's eyes, only use it on girls, or most likely roll a Ventrue.It sucks because Toreador is the finest option for Vampire dissuaded with bullshit politics, posers and manipulators, who actually has a goal and set of values and appreciates introspection and deep thought in others. >I'ts like going "oh i'm gonna be a brujah in a suit who loves rules and hates anarchy"Brujah were originally philosophers, but it's a reasonable point. However, Toreadors are split between "artists" and "posers" and the former are glad to shit on the latter (who would be VV and this spearchucker primogen)
>>723319215I really want this game to turn out good
>>723322913> I'm just literally going to close my eyes when my character attack is LITERALLY KISSING PEOPLE
>>723323040>It sucks because Toreador is the finest option for Vampire dissuaded with bullshit politicsBecause they are vapid whores obsessed with sex.
>>723323068I hope you enjoy the hecking and zany Malk quipping every minute in your ear while you're trying to get through the story.
>>723323141I will even mod/cheat those power on the clans I actually play and use ithem on every female target>limiting an Ancients power selectionskekaroo
>>723321490Nigga there is a hub with only Toreador.
>>723323469You mean Hollywood? It did fuck-all with the core idea of vampirism as addiction and the compulsive emptiness of the art/film/music allegory.VTMB1 is a good game, but it doesn't really go deeper into the dynamics of vampirism. At best you get fleeting stuff with characters like Heather.
I know VTMB introduced a lot of people to WoD, but holy shit have these threads been filled with tertiary retards who know fuck all lore. Literally the fags gatekeepers warn about.
>>723322671>I'ts like going "oh i'm gonna be a brujah in a suit who loves rules and hates anarchy"Paradox, I know you are scouting these threads, hire me as your shill instead.I actually know the source material unlike these pajeets.
>>723323412Talking of power selections, question for lore fags:Can a Tremere even have Ancient power without diablerie involved? Makes not much sense when they have the whole "mages that stole vamp-powers in the middle ages" background
>>723319215sexo
>>723323204Clearly not all of them
>>723324345Vampire The Masquerade - New Jersey
Dark horse GOTY candidate, mark my words.
>>723324740It's going to be SHIT, the only people who are going to even talk about it are goth hambeasts and normies who look at you like you're vermin if you're slightly critical of anything.
>>723325164Dark horse GOTY.
>>723323992tbf there also the problam that White Wolf themselves have rather shit the bed with their own franchise so the lore is a boring mess and every attempt by them to make entry-level products mostly fail
>>723319215safe horny
>>723319215Jesus Christ, just shit out that garbage game, fail spectacularly and go broke so we aren't forced to see these hideous garbage shill threads
>>723319215>causes the biggest /v/ rage ever seenyeah, its gonna be GOTY material.
>>723319215Toreador are chads and the schizo shill that haunts these threads seething about them is a fag, especially because you know he's probably a Lasombra weirdoTHAT SAID, he has a point that an ability where you run around kissing everyone is pretty retarded looking and probably a little gayPlay a chad Ventrue and make others kill themselves, especially the troons
>>723326095Be sure to collect your paycheck before the game comes out, shill. Bankrupted companies don't pay.
in 2026 people will be all like expedition thirty whaaa? Larian will release statements saying "we hope gamers don't expect the quality of bloodlines 2 as the industry norm, that's unrealistic"
>>723319215
>>723324605>north jersey: cammies> OOOH watch the fuckin mask'rade already JEEEZUS>south jersey: Philly Anarchs>man fuck the elysium downtown, lets just go to the one in gibbsboro. All the whites in the city are gay and Im not drinking another nigger until they learn to wash thier fuckin necks. And parking's dogshit.
Retards itt bitch and moan about the flamboyancy of a clan that's literally known as the clan of divas.
>>723324107When did they start write them into >"Brujah? Those are my classwarring comrades, booyah!"
>>723319215When are they releasing the Malkavian trailer?
>>723327092fucking based
>>723327092Anon's gotta type.
>>723327535the malkavian trailer is inside the protagonists brain
>>723323376I wish I had a malk in my head
>>723327341kek
Huh they managed to make a game where playing as women seems slightly less gay than playing as male>got another guy inside all the time
>>723319215>sexiest outfit is for la sombra.fuck
I'll day one pirate, fuck paradox
>>723327645Fuck. At least I can fall back on nosferatu when they get released.
>>723319215please tell me they give us a ghoul to bully
>>723328036that typo in "brujah" bothers me way too fucking much
>>723319215Animations look rough. Guess its on brand for the series. Will check out to play out as tremere edgelord but certainly not on release.
>>723328147I hope it's the charming kind of janky and not the "wtf is this shit?" kind of janky
>>723328036instead of a Ghoul, we apparently get to sire someone.
Are there gonna be romances in this shit?
>>723328419well that's lame. what gen is phyre even supposed to be? 7-8?
>no malk no buysimple as
>>723328419Totally the first thing you want to do when your powerbase and powers are so depleted that you gopher for today's thinbloods.
>>723324184All vampires are capped power-wise. No vampire can ever have real magic or super high-tier vampire powers, if that’s what you mean by “ancient powers.”Gen 4-5 can still be powerful as hell, but Gens 1–3 are the godlike ones.Everyone else is basically gimped.>mages that stole vamp powers in the Middle AgesBecoming a vampire came at the cost of losing their magic forever and replacing it with cheap, bootleg “blockbuster” magic. They might look cool, but in the magic community, they’re basically the LARPers who gave up real magic causeThey had shitty foundation and had to relearn everything from scratch but couldn’t actually do shit. It’s like a rich guy who inherited a company but has no clue how to start or run one himself. Rich boys to stupid to learn and too stupid to actually do anything
>>723328142It is how you meant to pronounce Brujah though
I hope we get some vamp hunter nemesis that repeatedly shows up.
>>723329046Ik, but that's not you spell it. You write brujah, you say bruhah.
>>723328685we do not know,only that they're around 400 years old.
>>723325164You're not critical of anything, seething retard. You're just a little bitch seething at the game you haven't even played. A truly critical man would first experience the work in question first-hand before forming his own opinions. You are NOT that man, faggot.
>>723328919>if that’s what you mean by “ancient powers.”Proud secondary, so most WoD nomenclature escapes me. "Ancient" was some Ravenloft title/rank, and the sale pitches claims Nomad is some centuries old elderThanks for clarifying anyway
>>723324740it very likely won't be a GOTY contender but if it's even close to a 7-8 /10 game I'd be happy. world of darkness is a severely underused IP
>>723328036>MalkavianDo not put it in crazyDo not put it in crazy..Do NOT put it in crazy!Ah fuck here i come
>>723329908>Do NOT put it in crazy!That ain't advice, that is FUD to cut down on the competition
>>723324740Way too many competitors for that unless the story ends up being amazing.I'm just hoping it's decent. Would love a fun vampire game.
>>723329908malkavian founder a cute! CUTE!!
>>723329998Bruh, you almost made it.>>723329842WoD is such a cursed franchise as a whole. Paradox brought back White Wolf publishing recently to deal with WoD, so who knows, maybe they'll finally do something decent.
>>723328036Lasombra for me
>>723328036I find the cappadocian misleading, given how cute the one in Redemption was
>>723319215garbage face for a garbage game
>>723319215PURE SEXOOO
>>723319215Tell me that at least the music is good. If it's not good the game's DOA.
>>723319215why does this game looks so shit?
Game is pure shit, post goth girls.
>>723319215It's gonna be great
Game looks pretty cringe from the two trailers I’ve seen. Characters just seem the same as your standard personalities in modern Netflix slop, but vampires. no charisma or cool factor to any of them. VTMB was largely enjoyable for its characters. even if a character didn’t look cool they usually were charismatic or had an interesting personality. not sure what I expected from a modern game though by millennial devs.
too much purple red blue, not enough darkness
>>723333605>millennial devsOne of these days you zoomies will become literate enough to read the credits and figure out these"millennial" devs are actually gen x/boomers.
>>723319215is that supposed to be a femaleit looks like an italian with gyno
>>723332810>why does this game looks so shit?You have shit smeared over your eyeballs.
>>723333636What kinds of shadows do you prefer?
>>723319215Can't watch it. Too much cringe.
>>723333758fuck you saucyalso stencil shadows or the ones from splinter cell pandora tomorrow's multiplayer spies vs mercs
I think this is going to be one of those games that everyone ends up playing begrudgingly and then discussion dies out completely in a couple months, like borderlands 4 or avowed
>>723319215FULLBODY TATS OF BONERKILL!!
>>723333818The shadow maps in DOOM 2016 were pretty good comparatively, but I do like your taste in shadows.
>>723319215>The characters from a 21 year old game look better and more attractive than this slop
>>723319424because then you'd have two voices in your head
>>723334009it's not just that they look better, the animations are better which is just sad
>>723327092Based lonely porn addict obsessed with fictional women because no pull with real women
>>723333709I am a millennial it’s gen x and millennials. last good entertainment was in the 2000s.
>>723333709This game genuinely was written by Millennials though. It's not Gen X in tone at all, there's none of that glib snark.
This franchise is a magnet for lonely oPorn addict transexuals. I can already see all the Agp troons spamming their female toreador Phyre on release day trying to avatarfag as her so others see them as a woman.
>>723323992I mean OP is literally a shill that has never played either VtMB or any of the other table top games.
>>723335120not enough customization for that if youre talking about the play modded skyrim guys
>>723329597As said by the corporate wage slave that is here exclusively to suck it off despite not playing it.
>>723329597not to defend the schizo guy but like i dont gotta eat a turd to know im not gonna like itthat said i think this game is gonna be fun but i have only marketing materials and my own surmise to form that opinion>>723328036is there any basis for this stuff like how are settites even supposed to work also what era is this from it feels stuck between v20 and v5
>>723328919Gen 7 and below gets to put 6 pips in stats which is where you start getting into genuinely high-tier
>>723329061It'd be funny if bloodlines 2 somehow had even less different supernaturals or factions than the original>no werewolf>no demons (eastern)>no kuejin>no hunters>no zombies>no ghosts>no Tzimisce >not even crumbs or hints towards mummies or ancient bloodlines
>>723330183>Paradox brought WW backIt's purely a PR move I think, although their renewed focus on "traditional and dark" probably means they'll hopefully scrap v5 entirely and go back to oWOD. Paradox has been shilling nWOD and v5 and clearly it hasn't worked out
>>723319215no asian clan?pass
>>723328685like 6-7 and she's older than LaCroix and genuinely seems to be more powerful than other vampires in the local setting. At the absolute MINIMUM gen 8, since she can't do Thamaturgy above the 5 pip cauldron move I think
>>723336247kuwaygin got memory holedhunters are indunno about the other stuffi personally like the idea of mummies but the weird its not actually from egypt except everything about it is the same as egypt is pretty fuckin weirdi feel like a mummy might fuck a vampire up tho kinda like a wereyiff
>>723336106Yea but who really cares when your opponent is a reality warper who didn't even notice you when he accidently anal vored you when he went to sit down
>>723336437>Banu HaqimIt's Asian/Arab, it's the successor to the Assamite middle-east assassin clan I'm pretty sure. Likely no Kue-Jin though despite Seattle having a sizeable asian population
>>723328919Well, those "powers" also mean that you'll be stuck in a torpor for most of the time or wake up stark raving mad like the jeet antediluvian did
>>723333709>>723333605I'm fairly certain everyone in the writing team after they got rid of the Avalone and the other dude was probably a millenial
>>723336535is this a reference to magesi remember a friend who had a joint mage/vtm game and talked down a vampire by saying he was going to turn his skin into white phosphorus and worry about getting fucked by paradox while the vampire was burning to ashmages are pretty much bullshit
>>723332282they got rid of the original composer for a new one though allegedly they kept some of the old soundtrack
Why is Vampire the only franchise that kind of works as a game? We got two pretty solid Vampire games, they tried with Werewolf but they keep giving it to z-list studios. Why can't they do a Changeling or Mage game?
>>723336692>>723336535Mage bullshit is directly proportional to what the DM allows, but also the ones that CAN turn your skin to phosphorous or morph you into a chair probably aren't on Earth anymore>>723336483Mummies in WoD are everywhere since they're fighting their own weird war against Setites and doom cultists, it's just they originate from egypt. Mummy's start off very high-power but a vampires tend to catch up. It depends on what the mummy can do as they're often some sort of sorcerer
>>723336247Werewolves are 100% in. During the revealed gameplay, there's a mention of "wolves" in some park. I'm assuming TCR is going to do inversion of Bloodlines 1, and instead of having to escape a werewolf, you kill one (or multiple) as a boss fight.
>>723336786vampires are more popular as an idea than werewolveschangelings don't even rate on that scale try telling someone yeah this game is rad you get to be a fairymages are bullshit because like its not being a zap muthfucka wizard its just kinda some ontological stuff and thats gay and bullshit
>>723336786>does only vampire workthe short answer is No, the long answer is that>werewolf keeps getting given to Z-list studios and most of the people in charge of the IP fundamentally misunderstand the game and the appeal>mage CANNOT be adapted without a lot of creative liberty as it's much more roleplay and TT focused>Wraith, Changeling, Mummy, and friends are unpopular>Hunter got good games already but Paradox only has eyes for BloodlinesThey can all work but they'd work better in a CRPG format mostly, I think only Vampire and possibly Hunter can work as bloodlines-styled action rpgs. I'd love to see a Wraith RPG but the farther you go from vampire the more obscure the setting and lore get. Earthblood for instance basically skipped over the entire spiritual nature of the umbra and all that cool shit, a Mage game could not do that, let alone Wraith existing in fantasy-undead real world
>>723336860no i got the book right in front of metheyre not from egypt theyre from some precursor culture that nevertheless is one for one ancient egypt like why what is the benefit of this extra step of nonsense like its already not the real world just say its egypt
>>723336692Tzimisce (Zao-Luo, The Eldest)Can reshape entire continents of flesh and bone like clay (Vicissitude beyond comprehension).Could warp reality into a grotesque living landscape — think “body horror world.”Allegedly merged with the Earth itself in Torpor.Lasombra (Lasombra himself)Manipulates shadows on a cosmic scale; could blot out the sun in localized regions.Rumored to have merged with the Abyss itself, making him partially a godlike shadow being.Toreador (Arikel)Can create art that literally reshapes the emotions and minds of everyone who sees it.Possibly able to “paint reality” altering perception, mood, or even physical space.Tremere (Tremere the Antediluvian)Mastered Thaumaturgy to near-divine levels.Absorbed Saulot’s soul and body, gaining True Faith and Golconda-level powers twisted into vampiric magic.Can rewrite Blood Magic itself.Nosferatu (Absimiliard)Cursed to reflect his monstrous nature upon his children his power is tied to maledictions and disease.Capable of turning entire populations hideous or unseen.Malkav (Malkav)Shattered across all Malkavians his mind exists in every descendant simultaneously.Can see and manipulate probability, madness, and truth itself.Every Malkavian’s “insight” is a fragment of his perception.Set (Set / Typhon)Commands storms, darkness, and serpents.Can travel through dreams or underworld realms.His presence spreads corruption and chaos on a mythic level.Gangrel (Ennoia)Can merge with and become nature earth, animals, even the planet’s essence.Could command legions of beasts and alter natural disasters.Brujah (Troile or Ilyes)So strong their frenzy shakes cities.Rumored to channel pure rage into physical and psychic cataclysms.Could cause mass uprisings or psychic rebellion in mortals.Salubri (Saulot)Attained Golconda. a form of vampiric enlightenment.Could heal, purify, and even redeem other vampires’ souls.Had both divine and vampiric aspects.
>>723337030Well, you are an Elder so it makes sense you'd be more on the same level as a werewolf, but the leaked achievement list didn't involve them at all>>723337040Mages are actually very easy to add into a game if the game is more of a CRPG/VN like Disco Elysium. It's almost impossible to include them in an action game though with the way spheres work
>>723336786all the other wod lines are niches within niches, it wouldn't make any money
>>723319215>Everyone charmed by Toreador trailer except the guy that calls you pretentious >Everybody impressed or scared of Brujah trailer >Ventrue trailer is all about people treating you like a piece of shit, OTHER Ventrue out-ventruing you and nobody being intimidated or respecting you at allThe typical antifa-leaning devs let their politics leak through again. This is why we can never have a kino Ventrue experience that isn't ruined by the the dev's personal views.
>>723335212I wasn't aware of the autistic shill lore, just constantly see people shitting on VtM or being ignorant of it. Fascinating stuff.
WHERE IS THE DEMON GAME
>>723337161WoD is kind of wishy-washy with the way it uses old cultures. Technically mummies originate from Osiris and Set the vampires who existed around the time of the 1st city which is in the biblical middle east pre-history, but Osiris and friends still founded Egypt so technically they're from Egypt. Wraith namedrops Egypt and egyptian gods like Osiris like a motherfucker too
>>723337163ravnos 9some fag in bangladesh or whatever0can get fucking nuked by magic orbital laser
>>723337323so yes im correct it is a retarded distinction
>>723337163Not so fast, Tremmy lost the battle of wills to Saulot, he got cooked for his hubris>>723337197Wraith has potential if they make it more like fantasy-undead DnD instead of le spooky sad game for the emotionally vulnerable I think. Everything else is uber niche though yeah
>>723337186I don't think the achievements are listing side quests, although I haven't looked at them very hard. I think fighting werewolves is fine, especially since it would be a form of homage to Bloodlines 1. Similarly to how the entire premise of Bloodlines 2 seems to be that someone opens the sarcophagus, again as a inversion of Bloodlines 1. It's just that you are inside.
>>723337335Did he tho?Did the master of illusion who can make reality accept his illusion as real actually die?
>>723337087>>723337040>>723337197Man I just wish companies weren't so risk averse, god forbid we get something mildly fresh in this modern sea of remasters, remakes and the shambling corpses of AAA franchises.
>>723337396pretty much. Could be worse, the 1st city plot is even more retarded
>>723337404>Not so fast, Tremmy lost the battle of wills to Saulot, he got cooked for his hubrisoof another L for Tremmy. First magic now this
>>723337407That is a cool distinction, technically you did fight a wereshark in bloodlines 1 (not a real demon) but it remains to be seen. The entire wolves in the park shit could unironically just be Gangrels fucking around, which we haven't seen in Bloodlines 2 yet despite being a Cammy clan still
>>723337473To make matters even worse man, Paradox has the plug with multiple action-rpg studios and at least two full time CRPG developers and they hand off Bloodlines 2 to two meme studios for cheap in HSL and TCR. Risk-averse is underselling it, more like chronically afraid of risk
>>723337251this is why all devs need to hire me as a writerim personally committed to giving players exactly what they want good and hardit is my highest idealmy second highest ideal is making the world kind of shitty overall so theres a real struggle to rise above it>>723337483the first city is okay in isolation i guess but its an awkward fit with everything else>>723337413man he sure subverted expectations by fucking off meekly after getting his anus torn by the technocracy>>723337473bro i sympathize but man earthblood was pretty hot garbage
>>723337484Yeah, Tremere is really turned into a victim by the lore. It sort of shows the danger of diablerie and hubris but at some point it kind of rapes the entire purpose of the Tremere and Blood magic. Mages and their avatar re-incarnate too so Tremere basically tried to cheat on his exam with vampire blood
Really wish they didn't go with a voiced protagonist.
>>723337750Earthblood was pretty ass yeah>Keep funding and cancelling werewolf games including a WTA sequel to bloodlines>finally get one off the ground>it's some literal who studio who has no idea what they're doing>have 0 oversight so all the RPG mechanics get purged in-favor of action slopIt's funny too, the game has it's moments but it just clearly had no WW or Paradox oversight>Red Talons are the pacifist faction in EarthbloodLmfao even
>>723319215This looks like an incredibly generic game
>>723337750Yeah...
>>723336786Mage is challenging as hell even for a human to run. A computer stands no chance of getting it right. Any attempt would inevitably be so constrained as to be boring and pointless. Control and Alan Wake 2 are probably the closest we have to playing in that kind of space though. Changeling could absolutely be done though, and glamour even naturally lends itself to being a game mechanic. See parallel world stuff in the Medium for example. The closest to an actual changeling game thematically though might be The Wolf Among Us.
>>723337959there are three things i remember about earthbloodcurrent year killer woman nurturing man bullshit its so damn tiresomeregular human hippies just kind of hanging around with werewolves like it aint nothingthe last bossfight bugging out and rocketing me through the ceiling right when i landed the final blow and leaving me wandering around outside the map until i fell through a spot with no collision and reentered the boss arena and repeated the fighti only kept going out of curiosity
>>723338185>yeahoh shit i thought i was back in /k/ for a minute
>>723337750>devs hire you as a writerSorry broski, video game writing is pure nepotism otherwise I'm sure your average anon would be hired
horrid. just terrible. every step of the development of this fucking game has been a mistake from the very first. the way the nigger delivers her lines 50 seconds in sounds like tommy wiseau. these people have no idea what to do with toreadors, but that's like saying you can't un-fuck a raped corpse. just let it come out so it can be forgotten already
Give it to me straightwill mods fix it like they fixed the original?
>>723338448yeah i know im shitpostingill just keep forever dming
>>723338216I could make a mage game, though the spheres would have to basically be basic abilities in gameplay and in dialogue you do some topical funny magic shit. it's monumentally rather hard to write though without it being boring. I think Mythic paths from Wrath of the Righteous would probably be the closest to the mage experience>Demon tries talking shit>you smite him by being the goodest boy from orbityou should feel powerful but topically powerful, not>life wizard 5 gets to combust people or summon blackholes
>>723337302Just play Pathfinder: Wrath of the Righteous. Nobody needs all the Christian bullshit.
>>723338257The human hippies were kinfolk, though it's poorly communicated to you. it has solid imsim-lite mechanics at times but yeah, it's a hot mess of a game. Unironically white wolf missed out on having Arkane make games for them at their most free before they got perma-shackled to Bethesda and big daddy microsoft. I'd say Arkane was maybe the closest game dev to Troika at the time of it's dissolution
>Still no playable SalubriOne day SalubriGODs, one day.....
>>723338463I think this game will likely be a mishmash between>boring talking segments with terrible characters>mediocre combat>So bad it's good plotlines>occasionally inspired atmosphere and references or plotI expect a 7/10 game at most though I don't think it'll be irredeemably shit, just boring outside of>those parts
>>723338703>solid imsim-lite mechanicslol not even its a beat em up with like some very limited metroidvania stuff>arkaneredfall lmao
>>723337302>>723338661>demonDemon is probably even more niche and obtuse than Wraith>>723338767I thought v5 killed off the Salubri. I'm actually more surprised no playable Hecata since v5 wasted so much time setting it up
I played it at Gamescom and I had a blast
I still think the TCR version will be objectively better than the HSL version, but that's like saying a 5/10 is objectively better than a 4/10 game.
>>723338537maybe one day anon, there's always indie games
>>723338853theyre still around just supposedly very tiny in number>>723338894lol look hes doing the meme
>>723338909 Better game but worse rpg perhaps.
>>723338851Earthblood and all the planned WTA games came out long before redfall happened and Arkane was shackled up with DEI hires tbf
>>723319215Are we still pretending VTMB1 wasn't a buggy pile of shit with a rushed ending? Oh, VTMB2 is gonna have such a hard time competing with that!
>>723337750>man he sure subverted expectations by fucking off meekly after getting his anus torn by the technocracydid he tho?did his anus get fucked?>>723337824tremere are nothing more than a pyramid scheme vampire larping retard group. anyone with an I.Q over -1 knows not to fuck a anti. They prob would have gotten more power by not sucking the 3 eye nerd off.Their avatar is prob facepalming at the fact the nerd is the wearing the body while he is the avatar now watching the nerd jerk it with his dick
Does anyone really like the modern aesthetic setting? I mean like being set in 2020s
>>723338909>>723339006>game is playable but has no soul>game has soul but isn't playableBloodlines is just a fucked IP
>>723339176>She relaxed
>>723328774MC is an elder, whatever you sire is going to be way above at least half the city in terms of generation.
>>723337959>cancelling werewolfWho cares. I don't wanna play the Furrys who fucked everything up and uses gay ass sex to give birth to more.
>>723339176I don't think anyone is capable of defending the final leg of VTMB even ironically, but it's still an exceptional experience (especially with the lite patch nowadays) that I'm glad I got to play.
I hate the Twilight books/movies so much, they made vampires lame and gay to the general public and now cool vampire media is very rare including vidya. Something really popular and cool with vampires as the focal point needs to come out to repair the general public's perception of vampires.
It's gonna be great
>>723339256vtm is very of the nineties to meif i ever played itd probably be as a dumb nineties sucker still trying to live like its that erathank god for retrowave i guess>>723339416vampires started gay and lame with carmilla and they got like a little less lame but still very gay with bram stokers dracula anyway the point is they havent been not gay since vlad the impaler and remember hes famous for shoving stuff up turkish assholes
>>723339416Bleh!Vampires have always catered to stupid women. Now, Werewolves...that's the thinking man's creature of the night.
>>723339256time to change your diapers and accept you peaked 30 years ago... unc
>>723339183The Toreador founder got nuked from Orbit somewhere in South-East Asia yeah, though iirc he was fighting off Hunters and other groupsYeah, Tremere's avatar must be Kvetching daily if it still exists
>>723339272>MC is an elderThey really shouldn't have done this if everyone treats you like a shitter. Look at the Ventrue trailer. Every single character shits on you. There was no point to making you an Elder.
>>723319215she's kinda hot. i'll fuck the lesbianism out of her
>>723339581based hopechad
>>723339652Source, pls?
>>723339692I wasn't alive 30 years ago
>>723339726>flat chest>short hair>paleoh my fucking god...
>>723339256Modern aesthetics work fine for this one with the snowstorm. It's still a bit gothic anyway>>723339275WTA is actually kind of interesting though, if a Bloodlines version got made you'd probably change your tune. Yeah being a furry is unfortunate but being a regening perma mad tank is cool
>>723339726Damn this just gave me flashbacks to a girl I knew in college.
>>723339753Fright Night 2.
>>723339717Everyone agrees the MC shit is pretty stupid>Phyre>Elder>Amnesia
>>723339272Even at best you still actively nail an instant teenager who is your responsibility to your knee, while being in a precarious position yourself.I am not sure the teen being able to hulk-out on most other vamps will make that situation any better.Are vamp that you have embraced as much of a liability for you in WoD as in some other RPGs?
>you're playing as the universe's version of a walking nuclear warhead capable of leveling entire cities if he wants to>treated like dirt by everyone you meet
>>723339828>voiced by a troon
Maybe expansion later that includes Gangrel, Nosferatu and Tzimisce?
>>723339726Haha I'd spend some blood points on her IYKWIM
>>723340013so? it's still a woman. don't care if she thinks shes a dude, ima fuck that KEKAROOOOOOOOOO
>>723339726>>723339828It's unironically a tranny
Based on achievements>Damsel comes back>There are five possible endings depending on who you side with, one of them involves Phyre controlling Seattle>You can kill the Prince
>>723339707>Toreadorravnos>>723339726played by an ftm>>723339831itd take a lot of creativity to make a bloodlines for wta because yiffs mostly solve all their problems by chimping out rather than talkingbook of hungry names keeps all their hubs/locations small and/or rural so the inevitable chimpout doesnt strain belief that youre able to escape or cover it up
>>723323992I remember WoD had at least one lore reboot since Vtmb, maybe more.Their new lore isn't particularly interesting.
>there's a clear waifubait in the game>even without knowing spoilers i would've guessed she's a twist villain because modern devs are incapable of giving players what they truly want
>>723340079>it's still a womanIt's 2025, I thought we were past this
>>723336549Arabs are not Asians, get out
>>723340137Don't remember the specifics to the founder that got nuked mb mate. As for the werewolf bit the delirium effect makes anyone that isn't peak human willpower basically pretend you don't exist the moment you initiate the chimpout. The actual WTA game has a fair amount of talking and RP elements still but it is the most combat heavy game
Lou is the hook to get chuds to buy the game
>>723340113>>723340183if it has a pussy,i don't care if she thinks she's a man.I. AM. GOING. TO. FUCK. THAT.
>>723339707>Toreador founderRavnos Antediluvian>Hunters and other groupsTechnocracy>nukedmagic learn le lord tard
>>723340145three actually>vtmb was a soft lore reboot as it happened after the avatar storm>CofD complete reboot>nWoD partial reboot>bloodlines 2 is a partial reboot of the partial reboot
>>723338498no, the rot runs to deep
>>723340013a pooner actually>>723340010i dunno if some bigshot got knocked into the gutter and i knew they were weak id be tempted to get some licks in too so to speak>>723339967mostly a social liabilityfor one thing population is strictly controlled outside of the sabbat to prevent overfeeding or breaking masquerade and usually cammies have to beg the local prince to sire someonewhen you do sire one youre responsible for everything they do for a long time
