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imagine paying $80+ for this shit LMAO
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>>723427185
ayy lmao
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and STILL!
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Idk that thing is pretty funny
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>>723427185
Mega starnie is the least of the games problems
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>>723427185
>that pose
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iunno cuh, it finna growin on me
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>>723427185
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It looks genuinely funny but it feels like somebody saw The Suicide Squad and just decided to put Starro in the game.
Which is kind of ironic, considering the Palworld lawsuit.
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It’s only $60 on switch 1.
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>>723427532
I wonder how many anons know what this thing is.
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>>723427292
Kek based image
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But I didn't?
No Serena, no buy.
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>>723427185
That's the only thing I've seen from that game that I kind of like
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>>723427806
It's funny because it's from Sword and Shield six years ago. And STILL not buyin it!
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>>723427732
>Dad starts talking about Pepe
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>>723427185
they're so hellbent of subverting expectations that the greatest enemy to good designs is people that do fanart for free
that starmie is fucking stupid but I kinda love it now
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Temporary forms/evolutions are fucking gay.
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>>723427185
Nobody even likes this pokemon why make it the same? Give is a ditto face like :) and it would be more interesting
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gamefreak has to be sandbagging on purpose, right? like, i get that they've never been the world's greatest programmers, but this level of incompetence is not normal. a team of professionals handed $20 million just does not turn in this embarrassing level of work unless something has gone really, really wrong, and they do it every single game
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>>723427185
THE STARMIE BROKE CONTAINMENT WTF IT WALKS
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It's funny, but given the state of pokemon, for widely different reasons.
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>>723428150
The alternative is making mons with 4 evolution stages which is somehow a bad thing.
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>>723427680
>considering the Palworld lawsuit.
Have you seen the gameplay? It looks just like palworld but with less player control
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>>723427668
we need the link up
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>>723427185
Why exactly are you getting upset over stuff like this? I don't think you'd behave like this about a similar character appearing in another game. Does the big cactus with a funny moustache from Final Fantasy 7 remake piss you off too? Or is that kind of silliness fine, but for some reason this isn't?
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>>723429268
because the cactus man feels joyful, while the new mega designs reek of bitter resentment. game freak hates its consumerbase
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>>723429334
That's not a very good answer.
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>>723429371
why not? it's clearly true. people can sense the intent behind artist's work, and ZA is absolutely dripping with malice
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>>723427185
Honestly better than the edgy OH MY GOD I'M IN PAIN WHY HAVE YOU INFLICTED THIS ON ME MASTER ones
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>>723427185
This one is unironically my favorite
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>>723429504
I really do hope you're just baiting replies. If not, it might be time for some introspection.
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>>723428792
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>>723427185
KEKAROOOOOOOOOOOO
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>>723429653
idk what to tell you man, gamefreak despises you
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>>723427185
looks awesome
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>>723427185
> people will ignore how fucking lazy this design looks because of muh earthbound reference and memes
its a shame that this is probably why we got this shit design, not to be interesting or cool but for fucking internet clout , its like DUnspace's evolution all over again
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>>723427185
Starmie/Staryu used to be my second favorite Pokémon, but this is so disgusting it's ruined them.
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>>723427732
pedobear
it's not special or some oldfag knowledge
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>>723429268
Fuck off faggot slop slurper.
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>>723427185
pokenigs paid $100 for this?
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>>723427185
That's pretty funny and references the old anime. But I guess /v/ermin shitstains born in 2000 wouldn't know that.
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>>723429840
>it's a good reference
but a bad design
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>>723427185
That's just a nigga in a star suit. you can't tell me otherwise
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>>723427185
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>>723429840
>we made it ugly on purpose, it's a reference
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>>723429814
Holy thirdie seethe...
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>>723427819
Non canon kek
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>>723429334
>while the new mega designs reek of bitter resentment. game freak hates its consumerbase
Take your anti-psychosis pills
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>>723430514
consoom your slop anon
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>>723428596
"Somehow"? Game ballancing?
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>>723429334
The cactus is more of a swastika than the fortnite dance
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>>723427732
It gave birth to my favorited retarded mascot, bepis
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>>723429772
Around Gen VII GF realized that shitpost meme designs are free advertising.
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>>723427185
>it's so bad it's good
No, it's just bad. Bad and lazy.
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Crazy how everything turned out for gaming.

It is what it is.
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>>723431014
Regional variations was probably the best idea Pokemon has had since gens 1-4. Of that picture, the only bad ones are Persian and the entire Geodude line.
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>>723431383
magnet golem is based
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>>723431014
It gave me my favorite Pokemon line so I'll take regional variants.
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Paying $59.99 for just a Mega Starmie? That is pretty insane, yeah
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>>723427680
It’s a reference to one of creatures inc.’s earlier games.
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>>723429976
>we made it goofy and comical on purpose
I remember when people liked gag characters and design. I guess everything has to look like "my fanart that i made in my head".
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>>723431774
there is no dick in the world you wouldn't suck if it was painted yellow to remind you of pikachu
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>>723431774
>its le funneh so it's good XD!
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>people pretending like Starmie and Staryu didn't have goofy limb movements in the Stadium games
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>>723427185
did they just wrap a starmie model around some humanoid skeleton?
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>>723431929
how many baggu in anus today?
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>>723431929
They also levitated
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>>723431721
They look, quite literally, nothing alike. They're both bipeds, that's about it. Nu starmie has more in common with blasphemous design wise
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>>723431809
Do you want me to suck yours too? Sounds like you do. If it'll make you feel better
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>>723432028
why are you offering to suck my dick?
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>>723429334
Mega Starmie is also joyful, especially in motion.
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>>723432119
were you beaten as a child? is this why you mistake pain for love?
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>>723431929
Those still didn't look nearly as weird as mega Starmie. It doesn't help that the Stadium games are over 10 years old at this point, and most of the time in the modern games, Starmie doesn't move much in its 3D model.
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>>723427185
I paid $50 for my Switch 2 copy, and even then I still don't see the issue with this. It looks good and in line with the Ultraman reference they were going for. Is this supposed to make pokemon bad? lmao
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>>723432005
They wiggled danced, walked and lifted off the ground like a throwing star in the old games, and in Sw/Sh DLC.
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>>723431383
The only sin of the Geodude line is that Golem didn't get a signature move that makes use of the railgun on its... head? shoulders?
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>>723431014
What did they mean by this?
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>>723432241
observe /v/, this is who modern pokemon is made for. he has won, and you have lost
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>>723427185
Someone give it the Half-Life crowbar
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>>723432168
Most of the rest of the megas are shit, Feraligatr especially, but Starmie is just funny enough to give you a smile. You can't hate it.
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>>723427185
its free on PC
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>>723427185
It's so stupid that I kind of love it tbqh.
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>>723431774
Name one new pokemon design that isn't a fucking Gag in 2025
From fucking ice cream to keys to the piece of shit Hawaiian punch mascot it's all a fucking JOKE

I'd be impressed if they actually made anything competent
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>>723427292
based
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>>723432347
Yep, cry about it, I guess.
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>>723432531
I can’t even be mad at Gholdengo.
>Oh, you want an incredible design for the 1,000th Pokemon
>Fuck you, here, eat your string cheese you stupid toddler
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>>723427185
>we NEED a motionless jpg for pokemon
millennial nostalgia is so tiresome
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>>723432241
that's koyuki
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>>723427185
I find the concept actually pretty cool but the animations don't go far enough. It does a flip with a pose and has a silly run but it's normal otherwise, there's a lot more they could have done with alien starfish trying to mimic humans.
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Would Pokémon games be better if if they just kept the same amount of Pokémon from Gold/Silver and just adding new or expanding up the gameplay mechanics?
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>>723427185
Yeah, imagine...
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>>723432531
>Name one new pokemon design that isn't a fucking Gag in 2025
Only one I can think of is the Mega Man looking ghosts from Gen 9, and that's only because I don't find Mega Man funny unless the 90s eng voices for him, X, or Zero are talking, or stuff like "Jacking in/off" is posted.
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>>723432995
No it'd get old very fast.
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>>723433073
That's a fucking digimon
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>>723432995
pokemon would be garbage regardless of what they did with this team
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>>723432531
>if it's not a 100% edgy serious design it's a gag
Is Pikachu a gag? Stop being mindbroken.
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>>723433239
The sword one can be both, since Battle Network Protoman is a thing.
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>>723433371
Don't even start because Gen 9 has the most fucking tryhard edgy designs of all of them
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>>723433947
do you fucking actually think this design is "edgy" you fucking retarded pokefag? You people have serious developmental disabilities because this shit is Bluey tier.
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>>723427185
It's growing on me...
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>>723434717
yeah, you say this every time a new pokemon game releases. it's called stockholm syndrome
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>>723427185
He won
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>>723433073
Shameful ripoff.
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>>723427185
Did they just dragged the bones of the Starmie 3D model a bit and called it a Mega?
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>>723436010
Shhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh
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>>723435669
He got that Falco upsmash.
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>>723431383
>he doesn't like the TIE fighter
Ngmi
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>>723427292
SPBP
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what is the chance this pokemon is added to mario kart
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>>723437673
who cares
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>>723428315
What's weirder is the game was originally set to come out last year, and this is the polished version of it. Just think about that.
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>>723427668
Mega Bazz
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>>723437748
it makes me think they legitimately don't care if the games are good. they've got their comfy sinecures sucking from the teat of a cashcow that can't lose, so they basically just fuck around all day and shit out the bare minimum. i know lots of people like that, it's just usually you can't get away with everyone in the company being that way
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>>723436487
>>723436692
>>723437552
So this image really is true, sad
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>>723427185
>>>/wsg/5998136
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>>723437869
their brains are completely cordycepted
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>>723437869
Have you considered most people don't see Pokemon as srs business
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>>723437863
They never cared. They're Illumination of the games industry
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>>723438083
>Have you considered
That you have zero fucking standards?
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>>723438101
i have no doubt that the first two games were an autist's passion project. i equally do not doubt that gen 3 was a work of great anxiety, by a man who feared he was not worthy of the magnitude of responsibility that had been thrust on him. i don't think it became obvious that everyone had completely given up until the switch era, when the fans proved they really would buy anything no matter what
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>>723427532
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>>723438227
All sequels have been quite uninspired with no real innovation or any groundbreaking graphical quality or really anything of note
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>>723438347
that's different from "nobody who worked on this game gave a shit from start to finish"
masuda made boring-ass template work over and over, but he did that because he did actually care about the product. he cared so much he never took a single risk in case it would make the whole dream crumble to pieces. but these new teams? man, they do not give a fuck. they'll shit on your face and tell you to say thanks
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>>723429786
ok, zoomzoom
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>>723438476
It has definitely gotten worse. I think sun and moon was the peak from what I've seen.
Personally I haven't played any of the games since emulating gba games 15 years ago
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>>723432347
we kneel, kneel to the superior consoomers and their eternal victories...
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>>723428315
2D Pokemon wasn't THAT good looking either, however the swap to 3D seemingly made them give up on making good games and just ship software now
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>>723438569
the games which tend to be put at the top of the rating tiers are usually either heart gold/soul silver, emerald, platinum, or Black/White 2. Nothing after gen 5
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>>723430127
>my dog every time I try to lock him in my room while I'm gone
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any buggy weirdness like with the last one? those were fun threads.
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>>723438638
the graphics are just one piece of it, the new games can't even fucking run like normal. the old games had bugs, but they weren't constantly in your fucking face all the time
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>>723427185
There are better looking phone games than this crap.

>>723428315
I think its delibetate because of nintendo. Nintendo always makrs poor hardware and GF has to release new pomemon games every 2 years or so that works in weak systems. If GF was to make grouns breaking games they would have to keep making them ag high quality which is probably no feasable.
GameFreak is making Beast of Reincarnation and it look good. And no Nintendo is not involved and the game is also not coming to nintendo.
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>game takes place in Paris
>plot is about whether we should keep dangerous Pokémon in their containment zones or allow them to roam freely with the population
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>>723438187
What are my standards "supposed to be" the design is entertaining
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>>723438772
Didn't sun and moon improve drastically on the world detail and story though?
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>>723438864
beast of reincarnation is going to be garbage. game freak has never made a game that was good that wasn't pokemon, and we know exactly how capable they are of making 3d games. but get your hopes up that it's just the hardware holding them back, i will really enjoy your reaction when the game comes out
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>it's a reference to-
kill yourself
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>>723438984
if you mean "the games added hours and hours of unskippable cut scenes" yeah, i guess technically
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Imagine CHADmie just facefucking her trainer
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>>723427185
A humanoid starmie is a fun idea but did they really just have to stretch out the leg bones and leave it at that? He looks like he has the wrong rig with the way the whole legs don't bend like its fucking gmod or something
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>>723439042
>game freak has never made a game that was good that wasn't pokemon
Drill Dozer but it's also the 20-year-old exception that proves the rule.
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>>723427185
You are poor?
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>>723439351
drill dozer sucks ass and only contrarian hipsters care about it at all
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>>723439384
>I can afford to waste $80 on a bag full of shit
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>>723427185
I don’t get why people keep using this to say that this game is bad. There already lots of obvious cut corners and issues either the game, giving a mega long legs is just dumb in a fun, silly way.
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>>723427185
>what's the cheapest way to make a mega evolution?
>just make the legs longer
>STONKS
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YOOO DAT NIGGA WALKIN LAWDAMERCY
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>>723439896
OOOO MASSA YOU GONNA MAKE ME SQUIRT
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>>723437869
It actually kind of is but usually it takes seeing them in the anime with some kind of personality to do it. I used to fucking hate Meltan but then seeing it act around in the anime actually kind of made it likable.
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>>723428315
it's simple. Pokemon already does amazing sales even with no effort. If pokemon somehow staggered and began to struggle with sales for even a single generation, then they actually step up the quality, which would be easy since the bar is so low. gamefreak is actually playing 4D chess.
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>>723440310
virtuous people do not merely work for money, they have a sense of pride in what they create. gamefreak staff are fucking leeches
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>>723427185
it straight up looks like patrick star wearing starmie as a skinsuit
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>>723427185
starmie's was funny, there are others that are genuinely bad.
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>>723427732
lmao@ newfags thinking pedobear is obscure
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>>723427185
https://x.com/tentenchan2525/status/1978797008807985604
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>>723440443
that doesn't look bad
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>>723438835
nah, you'll have to settle for spreging over the designs and 2% of the npcs being black
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Got my Lopunny stone and immediately went and captured an alpha bunnery in a luxury ball.
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>>723428315
Nintendo and Gamefreak see the Pokemon games as advertisements for merch. It’s a 20 million dollar ad to buy other shit. Pokemon games today are basically the equivalent of 80s cartoons which were toy commercials. That’s why they’re so cheap, they’re a means to the end of selling you more product not ends in of themselves
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>>723431780
wait my boy is in the game? I was gonna ignore it
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>>723428928
>>723437820
that's astroganger, you stupid fucks.
https://youtu.be/MRDVfqXl6WQ
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>>723440443
starmie's is genuinely bad
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>>723440586
Nintendo actually wants the games to improve. It's all on Game Freak.
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>>723433371
>>if it's not a 100% edgy serious design it's a gag
Who are you quoting?
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>>723427185
This shit is so incredibly stupid it flips back around into being based. Absolutely unhinged decision making
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>>723431383
>and the entire Geodude line.
>he doesn't like ALOLA AKHBAR
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>>723427732
That's the 4 chan meme bear, he runs into frame when a little girl does something funny
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>>723435669
Rugal-looking ass
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>>723437869
>you are not allowed to change your mind ever
>I say it's bad that means it's a universal truth
The premise of the image is dogshit.
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>>723435669
good ol' genocide cutter.
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>People keep wanking kaijumons
>Look baffled when we get Starmie as a monster from a 60's kaiju show/movie

Dude even runs like a guy in a suit, it's peak comedy and some fantastic toku flavor
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What sucks is discussion of these games is NEVER about the gameplay quality. It's always either porn or jerking off to sales, or bringing up console wars. The games are just terrible and even the fans don't want to talk about them.
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>>723435669
>>723436602
That's the Genocide Cutter from Rugal, King of Fighters. Sakurai is a huge fan of KoF as seen in several of his videos. Falco's kick is clearly based on it.
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>>723441179
People JUST got the damn thing
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>>723441034
>It's good because I recognize that reference!
Embarrassing
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>>723441179
The shift to 3D really killed Pokemon

Although I think if it stayed on a 3DS like platform it might not have been a mistake
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>>723441226
And how does that justify the exact same thing happening with the past 10+ pokemon games? The fandom does not care about the games, they just use it for console war fodder.
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>>723432531
>From fucking ice cream

That's from the 2010s and Vanillite is ice and snow that makes itself look like ice cream. I can't believe people are still complaining about this shit.
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>>723441034
it's a good design but the animations ruin it
it doesn't look forced enough to be a dude in a costume
it looks like a premade asset from the unreal store
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>>723441264
Unironically yes, context adds flavor.
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I bought physical but man it looks really shitty compared to digimon
I will finish my playthrough and decide if I should just sell it or not
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>>723440731
(You). There's no joke to Vanillite or Gholdengo.
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>>723433049
Imagine the thighjob and the leg lock sex
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>>723441974
Where's the gameplay discussion?
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>>723440704
>Nintendo: Everyone is lynching at us, and it is all YOUR FAULT. So outsource some development or e-
>Gamefreak:NOP
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>>723428150
is this not just more stuff that nintendo is stealing from digimon?
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>>723442069
>Talk about gameplay
>"Noooo that's too autistic"
>"Lol who cares the single player is easy"
>just use pkHex
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>>723442520
Alot better than spamming the same sales and console war shitposts.
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>>723432531
Who the fuck in the HERE I COME EYE AM CEENA MON lookin ass is this?
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>>723442069
There's not much to talk about it's like 80% story
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>>723442765
That sounds an awful lot like a snoy movie.
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>>723442694
Yeah guess what? People got tired of those stock responses to efforts at gameplay discussion, so they started posting like that to spite (You). You were asking for it whore
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>>723432531
Skeledirge is a good design that does day of the dead fine if a bit over the top..
Ill give you your point though since it also looks much better because its also stuck with the 2 faggiest starter final evo designs ever made to coincide with it.
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>>723443214
>efforts
That would imply that effort was ever given, at any point.
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>>723441179
>What sucks is discussion of these games is NEVER about the gameplay quality
Because then they'd have to admit that pokemon is the best monster tamer on the market right now.
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>>723443719
Not even you believe that.
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>>723441185
>That's the Genocide Cutter from Rugal, King of Fighters. Sakurai is a huge fan of KoF as seen in several of his videos. Falco's kick is clearly based on it
I didn't know this. Thanks for the info, anon.
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>>723443837
The only reason why you wouldn't believe that is if you're a die hard pokefag who's never played another monster tamer before.
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>>723427732
Way to out yourself as both a newfag and underage.
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>>723440704
Holy BASED
>PLEASE make a better game gamefreak, we will even let you use other companies that use jeets
>No thanks, us japs will make everything
Mad respect. Because those companies wouldnt have done any better.
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>>723444089
I think you may want to re-read what you posted.
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>love Starmie
>excited it's finally getting something after years of neglect in comparison to other KANTOOOOOOmons
>stupid fucking meme mega
GOD
FUCKING
DAMMIT
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>>723438917
>my standards are Idiocracy-tier and this is fine
lol
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>>723444159
I know what I said. Playing more than just pokemon gives you a better perspective on the genre as a whole rather than just saying
>oh the graphics are bad so the game is bad
Meanwhile if you're a hardcore pokefag you'd only know pokemon and would eventually grow to hate it.
Why do you think the shitposters never talk about gameplay? It's because they literally have no frame of reference for comparisons.
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Imagine being GameFreak. They are literally in the best position for a company to be. They can release garbage, just absolute unmitigated garbage, garbage made of repurposed old garbage which saves even more money. They release it. It sucks. But it doesn't matter. The product was so fucking cheap, so utterly minmaxxed that even if it sold "poorly" they'd still come out on top. People are so pokemon obsessed, the products don't even matter anymore. They are laughing at everyone every single release.

>AHAHHA CAN U BERIEVE IT
>WE PRUT ONE DORRA INTO DEV
>WE MAKE IT BRAD AS A JOKE
>POKEMON FAN GIBE US 5 BIRRION YEN
>HAHAHHAHA FACK U WAITO PIGGU
>NEXT GAME WE MAKE WORSE HAHAHA
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>>723444327
You think the complaints are limited to the graphics, and don't also encompass the boring casual trash that is the basic gameplay loop? How about the horribly written and drawn out boring stories in previous Pokemon games? Or the abysmal lack of anything worthwhile to find in the empty and boring worlds? The series has been trash for decades.
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>>723444226
You have aspergers
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>>723444676
You play pokemon in 2025
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>>723427732
his name is Kuma
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>>723444469
>and don't also encompass the boring casual trash that is the basic gameplay loop?
What's your ball rank?
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>>723427292
HOLY based
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>>723427292
*black woman lip smack*
DAMN FROG BOY HE KINDA CUTE
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>>723444469
We're talking about gameplay anon, graphics and story are irrelevant meaning that this is the only thing you actually said that that was on topic
>and don't also encompass the boring casual trash that is the basic gameplay loop?
>Or the abysmal lack of anything worthwhile to find in the empty and boring worlds?
Does this sound like you know what you're talking about? Or do you sound like a disgruntled pokefag who hasn't played anything other than pokemon.

Hell, I haven't played ZA yet so let's use SV vs Time Stranger for a moment
SV
>Open world exploration focused gameplay
>the three maps have several biomes with specific areas for mon to spawn in incentivising exploration in addition to the collectables relating to the four legendaries
>400 mon in the base game including forms it crosses 470+ including dlc this becomes 820+
>5 different minigames with different levels with the dlc adding two new ones for a total of 7
>evolving monsters is a very simple task often only requiring specific levels or one specific task

Time Stranger
>linear chapter based gameplay
>maps are short and mon have no special spawn zones so rather than searching for a spawn you would just go back and forth
>>if this were necessary since evolution in Digimon practically eliminates the need to search for mon unless you need to fill a party slot in the early game
>almost no post game outside of unlocking the final megas but the game is already done so there's no point
>450 or so monsters with dlc that adds 15 making it 465+
>only two minigames
>evolving mon is locked to your rank and they have stat requirements to making it a matter of grinding up stats to get the mon you want
Needless to say once you compare them it's obvious which one comes out on top as a game.
But you're a pokefag, you'll never actually try time stranger to see if what I'm saying is even true, hell, you're likely to just go tl;dr and ignore this
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>>723427185
What am I supposed to be murdering my parents and siblings in mindless shrieking fury about here?
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>>723445745
>Open world exploration focused gameplay
The fact that you actually opened with this, like it was a good thing, immediately gives me ample cause to discard the rest of your post. Someone who legitimately thinks open world slop is good can safely be laughed at.

>explore these empty worlds with nothing in them except filler mons that you'll never use because 99% of the roster is useless

LOL
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>>723428315
The creatures are no longer designed as monsters first, they are designed as merchandise first. That's why modern Pokemon looks so ass. They're more focused on designs that are easy to produce shitty figures and plushes of.
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>>723427292
BASED
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>>723443719
Whenever the new f2p Hoyo Pokemon clone comes out, it's probably going to be better because Hoyo has $100m+ budgets for their mobile games and it's going to make Pokemon seem low quality on top of being free. That's an actual threat and a very dangerous title, TotK sales were much lower than BotW sales because Genshin happened and there was a free alternative.
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>>723428596
The best solution for Megas is to make them all actual evolutions with stat modifications. Your Charmeleon can evolve into three different Mons.
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>>723445892
>immediately gives me ample cause to discard the rest of your post.
Which is just telling me that you don't quite understand this genre and this cements that fact
>explore these empty worlds with nothing in them except filler mons that you'll never use because 99% of the roster is useless
Monster tamers are partial collectathons you explore to collect the monsters and fill out the compendium for the reward. So as much as you want to kick and scream thay they're "filler", which isn't a thing unless you're hyper focusing on competitive a uniquely pokemon element proving that you people are just disgruntled pokefags, that's something to find on the map and again you have the collectables for the legendaries to find as well a a where they are.

But yeah, my point was proven. You don't talk about the gameplay because talking about the gameplay makes pokemon look vastly superior.
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I literally gave up on this slop after getting rank Y. it's ugly, the battle system is awful MMO shit, it's ugly, everyone is black.

violet was better but still not good.
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>>723433239
No it fuckin' ain't.
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>>723446423
and I was emulating on citron. it's shit. SHIT.
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im selling all my pokemon games for switch and never buying another pokemon game again. i'm done with this shit.
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I give up. I used to like pokemon and ever since they stopped making DS games it has been dogshit.
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>>723446176
I doubt it. They couldn't even figure out jumping in genshin and just completely lock your mid air movement like it's nes castlevania. Not to mention it's going to be bogged down heavily by gacha mechanics you can't really have a monster tamer gacha, they're two opposing concepts. Even pokemon dropped that aspect with their gacha.

What you need to understand is that a large budget ultimately doesn't mean anything unless they put that money to good use and looking at their other games, I doubt they know what they're doing.

By the way
>TotK sales were much lower than BotW sales because Genshin happened and there was a free alternative.
It had nothing to do with genshin. They're two completely different games.
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>>723446327
>you don't get it! the genre is supposed to be shit! that's the point!

Nah, Palworld mogs this series.
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>>723441413
>digimonkeks shilling a ps2 game

lol
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meanwhile in digimon land, the city actually looks like a city and the graphics are beyond 2002 tier:
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>>723427185
They're actually mocking the people who are still buying the games by doing shit like this.
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>>723427668
fucking kek
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>>723427185
Motherfucker looks like a gmod playermodel
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>>723446008
They aren't even designed as merchandise first. Their merchandise partners have to be dreading making toys out of the clusterfuck that is Mega Feraligatr. What they're actually doing now is designing this shit for memes on social media. Like, their new barometer for the success of a Pokemon design is if enough Redditors say it's goofy, made them laugh, and it's growing on them.
In the end, it's all that hack Sugimori's fault for his bullshit rule that "if a Pokemon is too cool, it won't capture a player's heart," which he pulled out of his ass without any evidence to back it up but still forces all the other artists on staff to adhere to anyway. That, and also their deranged fanbase's fault for calling anythng that looks good "overdesigned/a Digimon/etc." and therefore bad. Pokemon fans actively want worse things rather than better things at every opportunity. They are batshit insane and deserve the slop they get.
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>>723446765
this looks like shit
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>>723446659
Because?
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>>723427732
Who hasn't played Tekken 8 dude
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>>723446659
We're not talking about Palworld but it's at rock bottom along with series like Spectrobes because you barely interact with your pals as a gameplay element
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>>723446892
have you seen the flat Z-A buildings with balconies and flowers that are just a flat texture
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>>723446984
And?
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>>723444372
If you dont have a single shred of professional passion then being a GF employee must be awesome
>sit your ass all day
>do barely any work
>when you do, its quick and poorly done
>dont have to test for bugs or glitches
>release date, great success
>go out with the boys to celebrate another shitty job badly done
Its like shitposting but in gamedev form.
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>>723446984
and the alternative is hyping up some bland digislop that looks like an early ps3 game? even free chink gacha mogs them both
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I'm not following why most of these megas can't just be normal evolutions, most of them aren't for pokemon that had two evolutions prior so don't use that excuse
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>>723446717
Time Stranger mogs Pokeslop deal with it
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>>723447007
and? it's a fucking 2025 game that looks like a 2002 game.
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>>723447120
...and then you woke up
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>GIVE ME MORE SLOP GAME FREAK
we will never have a heartgold again.
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>>723447129
And?
Who cares?
It could look like a ps1 game and it wouldn't matter.
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>>723446717
you say that as if Pokémon ever made it off the New 3DS.
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>>723444372
Holy fucking TRVKE
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>>723427732
Spurdo's better thougheverbeit
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>>723446918
There's more to do
Better variety in Pals
Combat has more depth (it's not amazing, but hell anything is an improvement over Gamefreak's vomit)
Better overworld

The list goes on and on.
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>>723447129
it's a switch 1 game
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Do I even dare say that I enjoy the game?
The models for the pokemon and the characters look the best they ever have, even on the base switch.
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>>723447207
the gameplay is dogshit too, not just the city of 95% black people.
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>>723443545
Skeledirge fucking sucks and ruined the Fuecoco line
>>723440704
Considering Nintendo was the one who sued Pocketpair instead of trying to compete or collaborate, I doubt that. Nintendo knows how much Pokemon sells, and they don’t have to lift a finger to make the games. Why would they care about the quality of the games?
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>>723440482
This shit never fails to be funny.
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oh boy, what a fun game.
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>>723441179
>What sucks is discussion of these games is NEVER about the gameplay quality.
Most threads about this game have been shitting on the awful new combat system that's reminiscent of mobile trash, as well as the mindnumbing hours of handholding and tutorials, so you're either lying or oblivious.
For previous games, WTF did you expect people to talk about? The combat system had literally not changed one bit since 1996 and it was already ten years out of date back then. Any complaint you could make about it had already been made a gazillion times over.
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>>723427532
Same energy
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>>723433049
Oh, i get it now...
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The thing is, if you removed all of the pokemon branding, this game would still be fun and still be successful.
If something can stand on it's own merits, it's not a bad game.
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people should just accept like Star Wars, it will never be good again.
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>>723446638
> Not to mention it's going to be bogged down heavily by gacha mechanics you can't really have a monster tamer gacha, they're two opposing concepts
Not really, you can gacha for items instead of monsters or have a cosmetic gacha. It's not an antithetical concept. It depends on how much Hoyo can steal and get away with, or what they can innovate on to improve the formula. Genshin improved on BotW's combat even if the combat does have issues and removing slipping and weapon durability were positive changes.

>It had nothing to do with genshin. They're two completely different games.
F2P alternatives have been impacting sales across the board. Gamers playing f2p games and older games they already own is a major issue with gaming right now and that's a repeat of the 2000 era PC crisis that made Epic start making Xbox 360 games instead.

Cheap games are currently winning hard and the more cheap games win, the harder the $70 games become to sell. When people can buy E33 and Silksong for the same $70 a new game costs, if that new game isn't insanely good it's going to sour consumer perspectives on buying $70 games. A game like Megabonk that's $10 is another example of a cheap hit and you have Hades 2, Peak, Schedule 1, etc all being very popular this year. Peter Moore was most likely right that the $60 game will die, although it's the $70/$80 game now.
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>>723447373
No way this is real
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>>723447257
>There's more to do
You build bases and do those platform raid things. There's almost nothing to do in game which is why players have been complaining about it day one. It's not even worth exploring the map
>Better variety in Pals
That doesn't mean anything, how are you defining variety? By quantity? Because there are like 180 non recolors.
>Combat has more depth (it's not amazing, but hell anything is an improvement over Gamefreak's vomit)
It's a third person shooter at its core where you don't really have any control over your monsters. It's not even really a monster tamer if I'm being honest.
>Better overworld
The map has like 4 different biomes and nothing to find in them.

>The list goes on and on
Clearly not if this is all you had.
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>>723447478
behold, the mind numbing spam anything to win gameplay.
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>>723447257
The Pal designs are better too
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>>723447454
If you took the Pokemon branding off this game, it would be one of the countless shovelware indie games on Steam that nobody notices their existence as they scroll past them. You know, like Little Town Hero.
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>>723447532
they gave it mmo cooldown based combat? it's like lidl ff16 lmao
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>>723447532
Realistically speaking what are the tactical advantages of seeing the gender of our enemy's pokemon?
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>>723447454
normalfags would be bitching that it looks too anime
>>723447765
knowing whether a charm attack will work
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>>723427185
>paying
Nigga I'm playing it for free in PC.

Anyway, check out my cool bug that I just got.
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I haven't found a Pokémon that is cooler than wargreymon im sorry
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>>723446892
>sees tits
>calls it shit

Anon being a faggot as usual
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>>723444372
>NEXT GAME WE MAKE WORSE HAHAHA
they will too, is the best part
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>>723447525
>You build bases and do those platform raid things. There's almost nothing to do in game
Stopped reading there. No use arguing with you if you're gonna straight up lie.
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>i cant afford this game
unovafags lose once more
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>>723447473
>you can gacha for items instead of monsters or have a cosmetic gacha
Anon, you and I both know that's not going to happen, why do you think they haven't shown off any capturing mechanics in the trailers?
>It's not an antithetical concept
It is, the monsters are what you're selling if you roll for the monsters in a gacha then you're not going to be finding them out in the field like a monster tamer, you either have to commit to the tamer aspect or remove it for the gacha aspect.
>Genshin improved on BotW's combat
It didn't even make the attempt at having the same combat let alone improving it given Genshin plays more like DMC or Bayo than it does Zelda. In fact, the only thing that really ties them together is the glider otherwise they're completely different games.

>F2P alternatives have been impacting sales across the board.
There's no real evidence of this actually occurring anywhere.
More often than not F2P games are carried by a small amount of players whaling on it constantly bloating download statistics by reinstalling the game over and over to reroll their units.
Also you're not taking into account the amount of f2p games that fail and are shut down.

>Cheap games are currently winning hard and the more cheap games win, the harder the $70 games become to sell.
You're going on a complete tangent now, this has nothing to do with monster tamers or genshin or anything we've talked about. Also unless you're comparing them to western AAA games games like Silksong and E33 will always come up short compared to full priced games in length and mechanics. They're not really designed to push the bar or be new ventures, they're just there to be more of the same which is why they can be produced on the cheap.
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>>723448127
I was going to argue it too, but yeah good point.
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>>723448127
>>723448228
In other words you're admitting there's nothing to do In Palworld.
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>>723448273
Stay mad, lying retard
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>>723448273
You're just gonna shit on anything that gets brought up. You're a zealous console warrior and/or famitsu baby who only cares about sales and metacritic. You're not here for genuine discussion.

Speaking of which, why don't you sod off back to your famitsu thread and jerk off sales some more.
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>>723448273
There's nothing to do in Pokémon.
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>Another pallie thread seething over Pokemon
What's wrong? Can't sustain your threads organically anymore?
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seriously though, why have they not made a good game since the DS?
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>>723448367
>You're not here for genuine discussion.
You're saying that as someone who didn't even make the attempt, you saw criticism and just reacted incredibly poorly to it.
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im actually enjoying it
it's a way better experience than s&v and it looks great on my switch 2
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>>723448478
>you saw criticism
Calling people palsnoys is not criticism.
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>>723448352
>>723448367
>>723448403
>bring up palworld out hoping to make tendies mad
>get someone who just gave it the basic run over
>proceed to get mad and pull out the tendie/consolefag card even
Damn, that really backfired on you.
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>>723448489
Yeah it's a decent game for sure. Runs at a solid 60fps on the S2.
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>>723448563
Neither is attempting to gaslight.
Look, I'm going to do you a courtesy and not reply after this so you can at least try to end this with some shred of dignity.
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>>723428150
Replacing good designs is fucking gay
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>dude its mmo combat
I like that though. Finally buff moves aren't useless for a change. Its seriously the same turn based combat otherwise.
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>>723448573
>>723448676
>>723448624
This is why I stopped playing Pokemon. The fans just can't stop lying and attacking other fandoms.
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>>723448563
Hi ACfag.
Got tired of posting CP in the famitsu thread I see.
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>>723427185
>Start playing Pokemon ZA
>the very first fucking thing that happens after you get to not-Paris is your bag getting stolen by one of the local "Dark" types
i thought you guys said this game was woke?
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Humiliation ritual
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>>723448573
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>>723448468
Because that's when they mutinied Masuda and installed Ohmori as director
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>>723448728
>The fans just can't stop lying and attacking other fandoms.
>attempt to shill palworld in a pokemon thread
>bail after getting it thrown back
>play the victim blaming those big bad pokefags
I wonder why you're getting so mad today in particular.
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>try to play sun and moon
>just hours and hours of cut scenes
>they decide to do this for every game since
when did you guys quit pokemon?
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>>723448751
ACfag.
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>>723448815
>you can't name a single game better than pokemon
>*recommends Palworld*
>AHHHH STOP SHILLING PALWORLD

Do you have the brain problems?
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>>723448863
Animal Crossing?
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>>723448834
it's actually amazing how much they've made me hate Rotom because of this shit. Rotomdex and Rotomphone are the most annoying motherfuckers in the universe.
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>>723448885
He definitely does
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>>723447862
which emulator?
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>>723447257
>Combat has more depth
Does Palworld even have competitive? What's your metric for this?
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>>723446187
Megazard wasn't made a real evolution because some dev I don't remember said "but what if I miss it being Charizard?"
Nevermind that if you apply this logic to Charmander or Charmeleon, you're shit out of luck because you can't unevolve Pokémon.
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>>723447345
>Why would they care about the quality of the games?

Nintendo is very protective of their image of being trustworthy with your money where you can pre-order and know you're getting a game that's exactly what the advertising says and is polished experience from day 0. Now contrast that with how every recent Pokemon game has turned out and the fact that most people don't understand that Pokemon technically isn't a Nintendo product.
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>>723448885
You can't even remember the thread you're in. No one asked for recommendations you just jumped in with Palworld for no reason
>>723446659
You can't gaslight people on a forum anon.
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>>723449029
>some dev I don't remember said "but what if I miss it being Charizard?"
It's wasn't that, it was the poor reception of gen 4 cross gens.
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>>723447765
Some moves and abilities have varied use depending on if you're using a different gendered pokemon than your opponent but I don't think any of those are in this game. Typically it's mostly just for seeing what gender it is before you catch it, either for if you're trying to get something like Gallade which can only be evolved from a male Ralts, or if you're autistic and want something like a female Lopunny/Froslass
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>>723448986
Eden.
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>>723448367
>Y-You're just going to disagree with me you big meanie!
So much for the tough Palworldfags.
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>>723448834
Fucking this. I wouldnt have an issue with this if I could just skip them on another playthrough. At least for pla it wasnt so bad.
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>>723440704
why doesn't nintendo just find a competent studio for their series? What the fuck does Gamefreak have on Nintendo?
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>>723449130
>you jumped in with Palworld for no reason

>>723443719
>Because then they'd have to admit that pokemon is the best monster tamer on the market right now.

Yeah, totally unprompted, right?
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>>723449220
>What the fuck does Gamefreak have on Nintendo
Ownership of a third of the fucking franchise you retard
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>>723440689
Nice Chinese bazz clone
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>>723449220
pokemon is a three way split between nintendo gf and tpc
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>>723427292
>and still
Oh no....it's ESL
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>>723429772
No, they've explained again and again that the rrason they're having trouble coming up with megas and regional forms is that they can't ressemble fanart for legal reasons, so the more fanart is out there the more limited they are with what they can put in the game, same reason why Paldea had almost no regional forms.
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>>723427185
The biggest thing I took away from this game after playing it for 8 hours now is the multiplayer is fun as fuck, and I didn't expect that
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>>723449226
>original anon brought up Digimon and Pokemon on his own to facilitate his point
>come out of nowhere several posts later just to say PALWORLD MOGS!
>anon asks why to which you give a nothing answer
>get btfo'd when it turns out he played it
>refuse to even try and make the game sound better because you can't make miracles
Yes out of the blue.
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>>723427185
It’s literally a reference to its Pokemon Stadium animations. Did any of the zoomers complaining about this even know about Stadium?
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>>723446765
Yhis looks way worse than ZA, people hyping a low budget Namco game as the Pokemon killer are fucktarded, at least show an actual AAA like Elden Ring or Zelda or something, not this fucking Unity asset flip.
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>>723449226
If you didn't want palworld to be criticised you shouldn't have brought it up in a reply chain where tamers were criticised.
Plus it's a low hanging fruit, palworld is currently the worst tamer on the market, even worse than siralim.
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>>723427185
>imagine PLAYING this shit LMAO or any other ninetenyearold games
ftfy n1gg3r
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>>723449376
>get btfo'd when it turns out he played it
It's obvious from his incorrect observations that he didn't.
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>>723449376
>>723449448

>original anon shat on every single monster tamer
>cries victim when someone says that pokemon isn't a 10/10 masterpiece
>bring up that Palworld is better in many areas
>you just go "nuh uh"

Please, tell us some more lies about how palworld fans are snoys, despite the playstation release not even being a thing when it was first released.

This is more embarrassing then you guys calling people OOTsnoys because they don't like Breath of the Wild.
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>>723449527
>>original anon shat on every single monster tamer
And when did anyone say that the other tamers were bad?
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>>723449516
Yep, that's why you didn't correct this presumably obvious issue and instead threw a temper tantrum.
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>>723449608
He's an ESL. They don't always understand that better doesn't mean good or bad.
He's also the one behind the Ootsnoy spam so cut him some slack.
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>>723449608
see>>723447525

You're a liar that doesn't play games.
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>>723449676
You're the only one throwing a temper tantrum here
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>>723449340
>they can't ressemble fanart for legal reasons
No, that's just a lame excuse. Some dweeb from DeviantArt is never winning a lawsuit against Nintendo's shark lawyers and they know it as well as anyone.
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>>723449286
you're telling me they have billions and yet their slop quality is lower than indie studies worth 1/1000th of them?
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>>723449813
So are you trying to say Sega has a worse legal team than some dweeb on deviant art then?
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>>723449856
Considering how lazily they handled the whole Archie Comics/Ken Penders situation, yes.
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>>723449738
Anon you linked to a post criticising the game, not one saying its bad.
Are you really that sensitive?
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>>723449909
>are you really that sensitive
What's the answer, sealion?
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>>723427185
I don't get it, isn't the low hanging fruit way to do a mega Starmie just changing its gem to something more elaborate?
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>>723440704
If Nintendo really wanted the games to improve, they wouldn't be trying to sue and patent troll any potential competition out of existence. They also wouldn't demand a new mainline Pokemon game from Game Freak every other year.
Nintendo is equally as culpable as Game Freak for the decline of this series, but of course, none of you are willing to admit that because then your "team" will lose face in your imaginary console wars on the internet.
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>spam abilities like they are MMO cooldowns
who asked for this shit

who DESIGNED this shit
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>>723427819
Can't even get her hat...
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>>723449971
That's why they didn't do it.
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>>723429786
I met someone who didn't know what London? meant today, so...
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>>723449956
Oh I'm not ACfag. He doesn't actually address what people say.
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>>723427668
This animation probably took more time and effort than what they put into animating that model.
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>>723447454
This is what Game Freak games without the Pokemon IP look like.
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>>723450151
Neither do you, sealion.
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>>723450025
>If Nintendo really wanted the games to improve, they wouldn't be trying to sue and patent troll any potential competition out of existence
When did they sue bamco over Digimon?
I don't think they've ever sued another competitor.
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i'll bet star wars fans feel the same as older pokemon fans.
>becomes far worse
>some people still buy it
>it never improves
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>>723431721
That is... quite a reach.

Besides that the influences ended at rby
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>>723450197
Right.... You know I directly acknowledged your claim of people shitting on other monster tamers and pointed out yeah criticsm isn't saying it's bad, right?

Well you probably can't see much through those tears can you.
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>>723447532
>>723447373

Woah..!..this your first time playing a pokemon game?
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>>723450301
>You know I directly acknowledged your claim of people shitting on other monster tamers and pointed out yeah criticsm isn't saying it's bad, right?
Lying is not criticism. Neither is calling people palsnoys.

You DO know what criticism is, right?
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>>723444196
It could be worse, you could like Victreebel like me.
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>>723450357
that must be fucking brutal, it's crazy how hard he got fucked
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>>723450251
Eh, not really. As a SW fan pokemon is what we want SW to be. More of the same but new, none of this palpatine returns baby yoda glup shitto shit.
Why did they even think Grogu was a good idea? Baby anything outside of Three men and a baby is always a bad idea.
Older pokemon fans just haven't played more than pokemon so they hate it for just being pokemon and have no idea how good they have it.
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>>723449069
>Nintendo is very protective of their image of being trustworthy with your money
They are one of the most anticonsumer companies now with shit like two Wii ports costing $70, Mario Kart being $80 and not having the content to justify the price, $100 for Virtual Boy plastic, $20 for DK Bananza DLC that is just a shitty minigame mode and half-assed recreation of DK Isle, etc.
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>>723450354
>Lying is not criticism. Neither is calling people palsnoys
Neither of which happened here mind you.
Anyway, unless you're actually going to prove anyone was lying or called you a palsnoy I think we're done here.
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>>723450215
PalWorld has been more successful than those, and that makes Nintendo mad.
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>>723450331
normally you pick 4 moves and take turns, instead of doing MMO tier slop.
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>>723427185
they gave up 20 years ago
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>>723450690
Palworld isn't competing with pokemon though. That's why Nintendo didn't even glance at it until Palworld fans threw a hissyfit on twitter.
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>>723428150
what'd you say bout my momma
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>>723450676
>Anyway, unless you're actually going to prove anyone was lying

>>723450215
>I don't think they've ever sued another competitor.

>>723447525
>there's nothing to do in Palworld outside of raids
>there's no monster taming whatsoever
>there's nothing to find in the 4 biomes

Mind you, you called me a shitposter for implying that Pokemon's world was empty, and yet here you are making baseless claims.
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>>723450849
Yeah none of that ever happened. Are you okay or is this some kind of schizophrenic episode?
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>>723450763
They clearly see it as a threat and are doing everything in their power to shut it down even if their patents hurt the rest of the gaming industry. Nintendo used to innovate and compete, but now they’re just a law firm that makes shovelware games on the side.
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>>723451045
>already giving up
I accept your concession. Next time you shouldn't spew lies and call people snoys.
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>>723427185
>$80+
Why do you have to keep lying about the price?
You know that you are admitting you don't find the actual $70 price bad enough, right?
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>>723427185
i'm not buying ZA cause there was nothing really new to catch
no new mons, no new forms, no new legendaries, and even if it did it'd still be a tossup
but that said i absolutely love this design, it's so fuckin goofy, like a stupider version of pic related
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>>723432978
I like the silly run, it’s literally mecha Patrick Star. It’s okay for a Pokémon to be funny, someone needs to shop the long leather boots that Patrick had that one time on it.
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palworld won
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>>723427185
Built to land sick down-throw up-air knee combos in Smash
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>>723427185
he cute
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>>723451090
>They clearly see it as a threat
Had they saw it as a threat they would have been paying attention to it when it was revealed and sued them the moment those mechanics were shown in a trailer. Instead they didn't.
They just let it exist and run it's course until Palworld fans brought their attention to it because they were confident that there was no actual plagiarism going on which backfired on them.
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>>723451446
>Nintendo wasn't aware of it until Palworld fans brought the game to their attention
>even though they've been paying attention to them the whole time and chose not to do anything because ?????
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>>723449178
But they kept doing cross-gen evos too?
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>game has multiple dialogue options
>they're all the same choice
FOR WHAT PURPOSE
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>>723451446
The lawsuit has nothing to do plagiarism. They’re suing them over game mechanics that they themselves didn’t create. Both Dragon Quest and Megami Tensei predate Pokemon which basically copied their designs and gameplay mechanics.
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>>723447407
>The combat system had literally not changed one bit since 1996 and it was already ten years out of date back then.
Kill yourself. This mentality of "turn-based bad!" killed Final Fantasy.
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>>723451537
NTA but a gap of what 13 years isn't exactly what I would call "kept doing"
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>>723427185
You know, I can' tell anymore but this might be real in the current state of things.
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>>723451362
This
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>>723451557
Illusion of choice, bad game design, basically.
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>>723451642
>The lawsuit has nothing to do plagiarism
It's literally about mechanics Pocketpair plagiarised. And no, DQ and SMT never used those mechanics.
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>>723451642
how come pokemon didn't get sued then
that sounds like an open and shut case man
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is the digimon game even playable if youre already not a giant digihead?
it seems like an extra grindy collect them all jrpg for the more advanced weeb
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>>723447923
>see tits in an ugly hallway game
>lose all taste or nuance
This has been brought to you by SMT chads where we deal with the ugliness and aren't won over by tits, unlike Digifags.
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>>723451508
I'm not that anon but thing about what you just said
>Nintendo wasn't paying attention to palworld
>that means that they were always paying attention
Are you retarded?
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>>723447902
Wargaymon.
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>>723451557
>>723451739
I hate it but unfortunately they're not the only ones who do this
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>>723451815
That's what he implied. Nintendo was somehow aware of Palworld, but never took action until the fans annoyed them on twitter or something. It's as retarded as people blaming Nintendo's crackdown on piracy on people flaunting it, as if Nintendo doesn't salivate at the chance to take down all rom sites.
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>>723450037
There are no Abilities in this game, tourist.
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>>723451772
>it seems like an extra grindy collect them all jrpg for the more advanced weeb
I wouldn't say "advanced" since it's arguably a mechanically simpler pokemon game with the FE weapon triangle. It's just kind of restrictive when you want to use mon you want.
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Nintendo could price their games $160 and tendies will still buy them
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>>723427185
Does the vast majority of the game take place in the city? It looks so fucking drab.
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>>723451772
its comparable to a somewhat simpler SMT, but with digimon. i enjoyed it with only surface level knowledge in digimon
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>>723451906
not everyone's poor like you
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>>723451896
>That's what he implied
No, that's on you.
He's saying they didn't care about Palworld and didn't see the infringing mechanics until it was publicly brought to their attention.
You're saying they saw the mechanics, did nothing and just waited until it became successful.

I'll ask again, are you retarded?
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>>723451924
>its comparable to a somewhat simpler SMT
There's nothing remotely similar to SMT other than it being a turn based monster tamer.
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>>723451982
>He's saying they didn't care about Palworld and didn't see the infringing mechanics
So Nintendo, one of the most litigious and strict companies on the planet, a company that would burn down an orphanage if it had an unauthorized painting of Mario on the side, just magically didn't notice their supposed stolen patents in a new game. And they would've NEVER seen this if the fans didn't bring it to their attention. A magic forcefield would've permanently blocked Palworld from their view, if not for the fans bringing it up to them.

Very interedasting.
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>>723451896
>but never took action until the fans annoyed them on twitter
Yep Nintendo fans were frothing at the mouth for Nintendo to sue Palworld, enough for them to release this official statement
https://corporate.pokemon.co.jp/media/news/detail/335.html
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>>723446423
>everyone is black.
so like the real france
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>>723452068
It's almost as if Nintendo isn't litigious and strict and only act when they have no choice.
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>>723452093
I'll never understsnd why Palworld fans though publicly shitposting like that was a good idea. They literally shot themselves in the foot
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>>723452068
this guy living in some sort of weird mirror dimension
... or just his demented mind, take your pick
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>>723427668
O LAWD HE COMIN
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>>723452204
>Nintendo isn't litigious and strict
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>>723451937
see what I mean
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>>723452246
Are all pokefags this retarded or is it just you?
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>>723452279
Name one time in the last 25 years that Nintendo had gone after someone and it wasn't the result of people speaking loudly on twitter
Go on.
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>>723446423
World's most hardened white supremacist (Mexican)
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>>723452246
You're talking about people who cry about how pokemon fans are attacking them when there are no pokemon fans around. It's like that one comic with n the trannies and cardboard cutouts.
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>>723427732
Pedobear is one of those cases where a meme almost completely overtook the source material.
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>>723452367
Are you kidding? Nintendo is literally the reason why rentals are outlawed in japan, and they were behind the push to outlaw rentals in America. They literally sued Lewis Galoob Toys because someone wanted to modify their own copy of a video game with cheat codes. How do you not remember this?
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>>723439324
It feels like more of a regional form honestly, Mega forms are supposed to be expressions of temporary POWER.

Like, staryu and starmie have always had some space-ish origins but I fell this 'supplant humanity' angle is a strange way to express Power

If this thing showed up as a Hoenn-ian Starmie I'd get it. Hoenn has a bunch of space and meteor shit going on. Maybe regional starmie have had longer to concoct this humanoid form/communication thing than other starmie.

As for a Mega starmie, a lot of its dex entries mention its core, its core, as long as it core is fine starmie is fine. They should have focused on that.
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>>723452246
>>723452420
>Samefagging
Shameful
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>>723451937
Crazy how much the quality of these sorts of threads increases once you blanket filter the word "poor".
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>>723452563
there's two posts total in this thread calling someone poor, the fuck you going on about
get a job
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>>723452629
It also filters the chain of post that follows which are generally low quality too.
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>>723427668
He makes her pussy Misty
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people that praise modern pokeslop are as bad as disney/star wars fans

we'll never have a DS quality game again btw.
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>>723452675
that's 4 posts total + whatever garbage you continue to pump out
mayhaps filter yourself if you wanna improve quality
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>>723452706
Pokefags are actually worse than disney/sw fans
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>>723452823
They're already in the famitsu thread, gloating over sales before the sales are even out. Really shows their priorities.
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>>723452851
Which is odd since the famitsu thread doesn't have any sales gloating, it's just you screeching about how Nintendo lost.
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hows the digimon game?
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>>723452965
You lie with such conviction. It would be admirable if it wasn't so sad.
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>>723447373
How do they calculate cooldown times? There's zero precedent for this kind of gameplay in Pokemon games.
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>>723452475
>How do you not remember this?
How did you not remember this
>>723452367
>Name one time in the last 25 years
You had a time span of 25 years and not only did you pick three instances that were sparked by notoriety but were also outside of that time frame.
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>>723452516
>Like, staryu and starmie have always had some space-ish origins but I fell this 'supplant humanity' angle is a strange way to express Power
I think it's a joke because of the goofy design.
>Invasion of the Goofy Pajama Kaiju!

iirc there was an Aether npc in Sun/Moon who said if Starmie really was from space, then they must be chilling on Earth because they like having people look after them.
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>>723452695
Weird how you didn't use Meganium and Emboar for this
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>>723453054
And yet
>>723440735
Didn't even have to scroll to the end to find one.
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>>723427292
Very rare good frogpost and frogpic.
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>pokedex is just a phone app now
its so soulless man
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>>723453118
Meant for >>723453019
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>>723453054
>it doesn't count because of this arbitrary timeframe that I set up
>I support Nintendo suing people for modifying their own games
>I support Nintendo stopping people from renting games!

Average fanboy.
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>>723452851
I cant figure out why they dont buy out the palworld studio and have them make a game. it's that easy.
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>>723427732
Swedish bear
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>>723427732
That is running bear, he likes to run
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>>723427185
Just what the fuck is this new Captcha???
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>>723447407
retard
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$100* with the dlc plus tip
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>>723447532
Was Arceus like this?
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>>723452982
Time Stranger is... aite. It's nothing ground breaking, it's just standard turn based stuff.
I played it around 40 hours, evolving like 40 digimons at once so im taking a loooota time.
The story is kinda meh, but it's a good game if you really like Digimans.
Im not a fan of the fact that it's just a bunch of zones split between different map selections... kinda lazy but anyway
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>>723453241
>>it doesn't count because of this arbitrary timeframe that I set up
It's almost as if I picked a timeframe being fully aware that they were scummy in the 90s giving you the chance to avoid the obvious
>HAHAHAHA YOU COULDNT EVEN NAME ONE THAT HAPPENED THIS DECADE
response.

But you just nosedived in and embarrassed yourself anyway.
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>>723452982
I've heard mostly good things about it
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>>723453328
So are you going to post the starmie or did the captcha eat you
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>>723431780
Who cares about Venussur
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>>723453328
you have low karma
try making some quality posts
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>>723453101
It's based around the idea of starters pokemon getting the dragon type when mega evolving.
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>>723432074
Hahaha Sex with Anon funny
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>>723453557
But you said they were never scummy at any point. And I quote:

>It's almost as if Nintendo isn't litigious and strict and only act when they have no choice.
You're the one who lied through your teeth, and then backtracked when called out. But hey, I can find a few extra cases of them being overly litigious douchebags.

https://www.vox.com/2015/1/29/11558312/nintendos-youtube-revenue-sharing-policy-is-here-with-lots-of-strings

Demanding most of the money from streamers who so much as use even a few seconds of Nintendo music in their videos.

https://www.gamesindustry.biz/two-joy-con-lawsuits-against-nintendo-are-dismissed

Nintendo actually uses lawfare to intimidate people who are angry over their joycons drifting, using loopholes and technicalities to avoid paying out. They have to be threatened to offer a free repair service.

I could bring up their autistic hate of fan works or mods like Project+, but I wanted to focus on the really douchebag notions.
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>>723437869
>no fun allowed
i dont even play pokemon but you should kill yourself if you're this jaded about everything.
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>>723447532
>those """""windows""""
i puked in my mouth a little
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>>723453815
Man, Mega Feraligatr is a dragon?
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>>723433947
I love this mfer though
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Yo is that my nigga Patrick
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>>723454202
The entire city is one model and you can't expect gamefreak "artists" to know how to add detail with textures
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>>723454472
>The entire city is one model
I dunno if i should be impressed that an entire city is a single model, or be utterly disgusted. I guess a mix of both
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>>723454648
I mean it's not that impressive, considering each block of buildings is practically a 5 poly cube
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>>723454691
Floatzel-looking motherfucker
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>>723453838
>But you said they were never scummy at any point.
Nta but if he did he wouldn't have given you that time frame.
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>>723427292
Is this when /v/ pretends a game is failing because games not flopping literally causes /v/ to develop mental issues?
You fags still havent gotten over RDR2 and Doom Eternal not flopping lmao
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>>723454770
Well, the joycon lawsuit falls within the timeframe, so I'd love to hear his retort. He'll probably blame the palsnoys or OOTsnoys or something.
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>>723454209
Yes, Water/Dragon type.
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>>723452823
That's just because Star Wars is dying, Pokemon isnt, and that's literally what determines /v/'s mood, whether they were right over their latest prediction that a game would flop or not.
Nothing causes /v/ more seethe than being proven wrong, which is why you are still seething that RDR2 sold well and that Metal Gear Survive flopped hard.
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What's the most hilarious part about /v/'s seethe is that it proves time and again that /v/ is full of adults who actually, unironically want to play goddamn Pokemon, the Hello Kitty of videogames.
Why is the videogame industry so harshly affected by the manchild menace?
Every other industry like literature, cinema or music doesnt have people engaging in stuff that's clearly for toddlers.
Meanwhile videogames have adults playing Pokemon, Palworld, Mario Bros or Animal Crossing.
Fucking embarrassing.
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>>723427668
a daring synthesis
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>>723427185
To be fair, /v/ has so many people who spend hundreds of dollars on jpgs they had to make a containment board.
>>>/vmg/
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>>723447068
It being better isn't hyping it, it is just true
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>>723447068
Monster catching fans are all in a state of stockholm syndrome, not just Pokemon fans.
For them the ideal game is Palworld, a game with PS3 graphics who's gameplay is just the exact same as in every other "early access survival crafting grinding" game.

I wonder what these people would say if you showed them how actual modern games look like.
Or even aging ones like Arkham Knight or RDR2.
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>>723454691
This actually looks kinda cool
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>>723454775
What is this schizobabble?
>Eternal and RDR2
People call them shit, not that they flopped or not. Who cares what cattle buy?
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>>723455293
People here have a schizophrenic obsession over RDR2 and Eternal because they insisted they would flop and didnt, that's it.
/v/ doesnt have any deep tastes, we have goddamn phone gacha, FNAF and Deltarune threads in the catalog right now, dude, even normies who only play COD and FIFA have better taste than this board.
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>>723453838
Okay, so strike one
>But you said they were never scummy at any point
No one made this claim and that quote you just so happened to grab proves that. Even then your examples were still retaliatory.

>Demanding most of the money from streamers who so much as use even a few seconds of Nintendo music in their videos.
Your link says 30-40%, which is the standard for partnered tubers. Now I'm just a humble native English speaker but I don't think the definition of "most" is "the smallest percentage".
Also no recorded litigation ever happened regarding the partner program.

>Nintendo actually uses lawfare to intimidate people who are angry over their joycons drifting,
Yes, Nintendo used lawfare to sue people and not the plaintiffs who sued Nintendo.
>using loopholes and technicalities to avoid paying out.
Did you even read your link? In the case or the parents suing Nintendo it was the parents trying to use a loophole to get a payout by trying to pass their child off as the owner of the system to bypass the agreements.
Even if it was exactly what you said it would have still been retaliatory since it wasn't Nintendo suing them but the other way around
>They have to be threatened to offer a free repair service.
Yep, they were totally threaten when they opened up free repairs before they were even sued. That which study thing happened like two years after they had already started doing it.

In all seriousness, even with the ball in your court you couldn't find a single example.
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>>723431721
Nooo its not
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>>723454851
>the joycon lawsuit falls within the timeframe
Why would you being up something Nintendo was sued for as an example of Nintendo being overly litigious?
They were the one getting sued, not the other way around.

And why are you just tacking snoy on to everything? You know that only you say that right?
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>>723428315
>i get that they've never been the world's greatest programmers
Zoomer reeeeeeeeeeetard, the first two generations were programming masterpieces, the shit they did was above and beyond
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>>723455212
>who's gameplay is just the exact same as in every other "early access survival crafting grinding" game.
You don't know what Palworld actually plays like
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>>723455675
The fuck? The amount of ways you could completely corrupt your save and the ease to access glitchmons was staggering in the first gen.
Red and Blue are held by ducktape.
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>>723432247
>>723432005
>>723431929
Same as the tranime though, not this creepy shit lmao
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>>723455729
I know very well because I fell for it.
Only a tunnel visioned pokenigger could find anything engaging in a game thats just grinding so you can develop better grinding tools so you can grind more efficently.
That shit got old by 2012 with Minecraft.
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>>723438347
All sequels except gen 2* ftfy zoomer tranoid
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>>723444372
>The product was so fucking cheap
That's the thing tho, it's not cheap and it never gets any discounts, but the rest is correct, pokefans will buy anything, arguably one of the worst games in the series still sold nearly 30kk copies a few years ago!
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>>723455546
>Your link says 30-40%, which is the standard for partnered tubers.
They were also taking a majority of ad revenue.

>Did you even read your link? In the case or the parents suing Nintendo it was the parents trying to use a loophole to get a payout by trying to pass their child off as the owner of the system to bypass the agreements.
And Nintendo was refusing to take responsibility for their shitty joycons breaking. If you advertise your console as a children's console, then it doesn't matter what name its under. The damn joycons shouldn't have broken in the first place, and Nintendo shouldn't have fought against it. They could've just simply accepted that their hardware was absolute shite.

>Yep, they were totally threaten when they opened up free repairs before they were even sued.
Again, because of pressure. They refused to do it until the damn thing became too much to ignore.

you're defending them willingly selling broken products, and then only offering free repairs after threats. Pathetic.
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>>723455902
>I know very well because I fell for it.
yet you make such an extremely inaccurate assessment
curious...
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>>723446423
Taunie sex
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>>723447052
All of that applies to gacha shit, and yet there's no one on the internet who slurps up gacha crap like 4chan.
The truth is /v/ has no care for graphics or quality, people here are just mad Pokemon is immune to the usual "I SWEAR THIS GAME IS GOING TO FLOP, YOU'LL SEE" shitposting.
After all, what makes /v/ truly mad isnt shit games or SJWs, is being proven wrong, likely due to the overwhelming presence of third worlders.
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>>723456275
What part isnt accurate?
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>>723456316
you don't grind for shit in palworld, and you don't need tools
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>>723456402
Forget it, anon. That guy is a disingenuous, gaslighting console warrior. He'll make up anything about non-nintendo games just to make them look bad. A sad and pathetic individual.
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>>723456402
How the hell do you develop things or build bases then?
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>>723456454
>gaslighting
I forgot I'm in /v/, a place so influentiable by social media fags here use Newspeak unironically.
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>>723427185
>Implying mega starmie isnt kino
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>>723456402
>you dont need tools
That's like saying you dont need to kill people in multiplayer shooters.
Go on and ignore it, that wont change the fact that the game design is centered on it.
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>>723456538
>implying you dont suck dicks for a living.
Dont pretend.
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>>723456489
I wonder if pals, perhaps, have harvesting capabilities...that even run faster when you aren't in a base...
>>723456583
you aren't even trying
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>>723456663
Like I said, the supposed "expert" has never touched the game. He's just here to shill Pokemon.
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>>723456663
So you build a farm that you will eventually be capable of automating, which is basically the endgame and the point where you have basically nothing to do except for fighting bosses.
Sounds like every single survival crafting grinding game to me.
Seriously, have you fags ever played anything beyond Pokemon?
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>>723456813
Try playing the game first, and you'll have your answer. :)
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>>723456704
Anyone but you pokefags are experts in this type of game, they've been fucking everywhere since Minecraft.
Try Kenshi, that's Palworld except its not made for turbo casuals who want to ñet the hecking doggo since the monsters look like actual monsters and not plushies.
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>>723456902
>Kenshi
Ewww, no thanks. I prefer actually playable games.
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>>723456872
I have

>>723456953
Aka you got filtered by actual depth and difficulty.
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>>723457028
>10 hours
you have no excuse to be so full of shit
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>>723457293
What? You said I was right, that it's a run of the mill early access survival game where the endgoal is automizing resource gathering.

Try playing something beyond Pokemon and Palworld, because I bet you even think it has good graphics.
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>>723456280
??? I dont think those are the same at all.

Gacha shit is lazy too dont get me wrong, but for entirely different reasons, though i cant say much as i've only played one to see what the deal was (fgo for like 1 year or so since i like fsn), but gatcha products dont lack polish at all, as they live and die by the pulling of retards with shinny shit like cute girls or fanservice, sometimes both at the same time, they are also not buggy as letting bugs come coul possibly fuck up with their gatcha system, which would be disastrous to them, and lastly the success is not guaranteed at all, tons of gatcha shit dies every year as while the content they create is minimum, server costs a lot, making many barely profitable.

Pokemon is the exact opposite, everything they make is low effort and low cost as well but theirs differ in that is low quality, stupidly so. But thanks to the pkmn brand(or maybe battle system, some spin-offs did underperform after all), it never fails, its always a guaranteed success unlike gatcha that can and constantly fails because of fuck ups like fujo pandering or weaker designs or whatever.

Gatcha shit main problem is being excessively predatory and basic gameplay wise, pokemon issue is being incredibly shit but not failing despite of that so it keeps lowering quality with each entry, completely different problems. Though i do guess pokemon is also somewhat predatory with pkmn home and now overpriced dlc which was in the past 3rd versions.
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>>723457595
Gacha niggers spend hundreds for a goddamn jpg dude
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>>723456176
>They were also taking a majority of ad revenue.
Anon, that 30-40% Is ad revenue.

>And Nintendo was refusing to take responsibility for their shitty joycons breaking.
Anon, Nintendo took responsibility for it well before they were sued. In fact they acknowledged it in a 2018 and contrary to what you believe, they started offering free repairs without being pressured with lawsuits.
>then it doesn't matter what name its under.
Of course it does. That's why the panel didn't side with the parents trying to loophole an argument with their kids.
>They refused to do it until the damn thing became too much to ignore.
They didn't refuse anything. They were acknowledging it the moment they were getting reports. The only reason people think Nintendo ignored the problem was because of that animation by that washed up newgrounds pony animator guy. Which he put out a year after Furukawa apologised for the drifting and that itself was a year after the free repairs.

It's not about defending Nintendo, it's about getting information correct.
Obsessing over a company to the point where you lose sight of that is utterly pathetic.
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>>723456176
>They were also taking a majority of ad revenue.
Why lie about that?
>Approved channels — which may include non-Nintendo videos — will receive 70 percent of the ad money their videos create, while individually approved videos will net their creators 60 percent of the dough.
That's not saying Nintendo gets 60/70% of the ad revenue, it's saying that the CREATOR gets 60/70% meaning Nintendo gets 30/40%.
This article words it in a weird way but there's no way you can read it as Nintendo getting the majority.
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>>723457658
Yeah, and they are retarded or gamba addicts, i didnt spend a single dime while i was playing fgo and was able to "enjoy" the free experience just fine. Dont see how players being retarded has to do with the original point though? The exploitation? I dont disagree that both gatcha and GF staff are both amoral demons in the way they treat their fans with the products they put out, but my point was about professional passion, and while its predatory and evil, gatcha games dont feel passionless at all, the effort in the cute girls or fansevice (and by this i mean obscure pulls in smaller IPs that have gatchas like og demon designs for SMT as an example) is extraordinary.

You cant look me straight in the eye and tell there was any love for the craft put into any of these modern pokemon games.
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this shit is some of the cringiest AI slop ever made

how do you even turn a pokemon into a human like creature
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>>723458709
Well that all goes back to 1996 when a little game called Pokemon Red and green released in Japan.
It had an odd monster named Jynx who was very, very humanlike.



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