Is order of ecclesia good? Has anyone even played this fucking game?
>>723448308still don't get how other games didn't use its quick magic rechargeit's the best post Rondo Castlevania just for that
STUPID DISCIPLE
>>723448308It's pretty good. I'm not a huge fan of the level design, though. If I'm being honest it's simultaneously the most interesting of the three DS games and also the most boring. I like it the least, but I get the appeal.
>>723448308It's a mixture of old school and new school castlevania. That's icky to some people. Who knows, you may like it.
>>723448308Yes anon lots of people have played it. I've beaten it. It's pretty good. Here's how I rank the metroidcastlevanias:1. SotN2. Dawn of Sorrow3. Aria of Sorrow4. Order of Ecclesia <- you are here5. Portrait of Ruin6. Harmony of Dissonance7. Circle of the Moon
>>723448308The art, music, and combat are top tier. The level design is pretty mediocre because it tries to mix linear and nonlinear Castlevania in a single game and both sides suffer for it. Half the linear levels are recycled and Dracula's Castle is tiny.
>>7234483081. Symphony of the Night2. Curse of the Moon 3. Ritual of the Night4. Aria of Sorrow5. OOE
>>723448875Mine:1. Symphony of the Night2. Aria of Sorrow3. Portrait of Ruin4. Dawn of Sorrow5. Circle of the Moon6. Order of Ecclesia7. Harmony of DissonanceCotM is kind of a chore at times so maybe I have it too high. I'm more of a Classicvania guy though anyway.
>>723448308It starts horrible if you're a dirty casual who's firmly stuck in your SOTN/Sorrow comfort zone but (hopefully) you'll start growing fond of it's classicvania method of stop giving a fuck to stats and gear, instead resorting to learn the boss and styling all over him no-dmg'ing his ass even if you got nothing but chip damage.then again, you don't need to be afraid of going naked into everything. Just don't shit yourself until Skeleton Cave and you'll already have a decent grinding zone if you really want to turn it back into a SOTN clone again.In fact, NG+ in this game is even more broken than Soma's games. If you beat Hard and unlock 255 mode, Ecclesia gives you the biggest cakewalk in the series by far.
>>723448570HOW DARE YOU
>>723448875>>723448998>>723449136>1. SOTNhaha oh wow
>>723448308>Is order of ecclesia goodit's ok, play portrait of ruin
>>723448875>2. Dawn of Sorrowbased
>>723448308Shitty crab fucker ruins the game
>>723450409>Getting filtered by simply doing a few reps of crouch-falcis and dodging SHAARNGMI and would never bask in the glory of beating Eligor
>>723448308It's the second best Igavania. This moment alone hasn't been surpassed yet.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vj3T7cVy5eA
>>723448308Overall it's a good game. Fuck Blackmore though.
>>723450409You can cheese that fight though
It's the best DSVaniaNiggas mad because there's shit before getting into the castle
it's the weakest of the DS vanias but it's still ok
>>723450846The shit before the castle is part of why it's so good though. It plays like classicvania by exploring exotic locales on the trek to the castle and has an emphasis on skill vs leveling grinding.
>Enter Dracula's Castle>Immediately get Holy Laser Beam GlyphsI figured it would be a little harder to get the best Holy Glyph in the game, but whatever.
>>723450894>WeakestThat's Portrait tho
>>723448308I liked it.
>>7234483081. Harmony of Dissonance2. Symphony of the Night3. Portrait of Ruin4. Dawn of Sorrow5. Aria of Sorrow6. Order of Ecclesia7. Circle of the Moon
>>723448308other vanias don't let you shmoove around while spamming nitesco so it's objectively the best igavania
SHOANOAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
>>723452430Albus Dumbledore was one thirsty nigga
1. Aria of Sorrow2. Symphony of the Night3. Order of Ecclesia4. Dawn of Sorrow5. Portrait of Ruin6. Circle of the Moon7. Harmony of Dissonance
>>723448308It's one of the best
>>723448308Played it 16 years ago when it came out and was obsessed with it. Best 2D Castlevania game of all time.
Say what you want about the game, but Order of Ecclesia blows the fuck out of all the other games in story and characters.
DIE, SHANOA
>>723449628EVEN FORGETTING
>>723450775I will steal your shadow!Didn't like being stuck in a corner, but I think design wise he was pretty cool
>>723448308It's good but portrait of ruin is the best one of the ds trilogy
>>723448308I wanted more characters. I wanted to see other glyph girls...Also I fucking hated getting the pneuma glyph.
>>723451152Globus is better
>>723448308I didn't like it.It basically took the souls idea from Aria of Sorrow/Dawn of Sorrow and turned them into your only weapon. The big problem with that, is it means your using your MP meter to make attacks, which effectively leaves you either sticking exclusively with weaker souls to attack continuously or just rarely using a bigger soul and needing to hop around while your MP regenerates. The exploring part didn't work well either - each area is broken up into much smaller stages, each which take a few minutes to walk thru individually, which means that looking around for finding something new involves selecting a stage from a menu, walking thru it in a few minutes, then getting kicked back out to the world map and selecting another stage.I didn't get to the True End area so perhaps that location happens to completely fix all the issues in the game, but I wasn't motivated to bother at that point.
>>723452646>Best 2D Castlevania game of all time.Well it's not like the 3D games matter.
>>723451240>1. Harmony of Dissonancereally nigga?
It was fine. Glyph system was neat I guess but I'd rather just have normal weapons. Level design is very hit and miss.1. SotN2. AoS3. DoS4. PoR5. OoE6. HoD7. CotM
>>723455239Nigga how can you say you didn't like OOE if you didn't even reach Dracula's Castle? It's the second half of the game.>finding something new involves selecting a stage from a menu, walking thru it in a few minutes, then getting kicked back out to the world map and selecting another stageHow is this meaningfully different from walking through a stage to find the teleport room and using that to choose where you want to go?
>>723455637A good game is going to present different areas distinctly and place them in a memorable place that makes sense. Do I have a power that lets me walk on water? Well the waterway runs under the castle, so I'll go to the bottom of the castle to find it. Do I need to go to the tall tower area? Well there's only one spot on the map the juts upward that much.It's not as good when it's "I need the location with the boat, I guess think that's the second from the left icon, I'll check there first.">how can you say you didn't like OOE if you didn't even reach Dracula's Castle?So you're saying that the entire first part of the game was shit and it stopped being shit after the GameFAQs-required story break? Yeah, I'm not going to bother. I'd literally played every other Castlevania by that point, I wasn't going to do it again even if the castle turned out to be decent.
>>723448308Mork thinks it's the best metroidvania. I haven't played it or any other game really, I just listen to what e-celebs say haha.
>>723448308I beat the whole game like 3 days when it was released. Haven't touched it since and can barely remember it other than the crab fight and the guy you're working for betrays you. Also Dracula shows up at the end for very forced reasons.
>>723448875Are you me?
>>723456132That's not what that means and you know it you disingenuous faggot.
>>723450801How? I beat this game but recall I did not have trouble with the crab and beat him first try. My habits have always been to take the cheese way out so I must have done so back then.
>>723451240>1. Harmony of DissonanceUnfathomably based
>>723455454yes problem?
>>723448308I like it the best of the seven main games of that style.OOEAoSSotNDoSPoRCotM<large gap>HoDOutside of Harmony, I would replay any of those games right now. Just wish SotN was easier to play but Konami apparently doesn't want that easy money.
>>723448308I bought it new in my DS and still love it.Outside the castle more than half the areas are glorified hallways (or simply hallways) and it starts once you leave the mountains.But I really like the attacks require MP system, how annoying is to get some of the glyphs and most bosses. Entering the castle as at high level character is pretty fun because all areas are lategame. You can also start playing as some kind of action black mage pretty soon and stop bothering with the magical weapons.It's also low in the grinding for items. And it's the game with the better plot in the series even if it's like five scenes.
>>723448308It's ok but way too hard, especialy the final bosses
>>723448308I don't mean to stir shit but I am highly unimpressed if this is one of the best castlevania has to offer. It's a good quality game but the actual gameplay is not that great
>>723461336The whole game is designed around shit people were bitching for years, if it's not something you're looking for it's just a weird game that looks like an Igavania.
>>723452627Based, are you my doppelganger?
guess what?double hammer
Other than SOTN I don't remember any other castlevania. I have play pretty much all of them and beat them, it is just that most of them just blend together due to sheer lack of inspiration. This is one of them. And no, it isnt because I hate metroidvania or anything. I find metroid dread and silksong refreshing. It is just that castlevania after SOTN are just that lacking.
>>723461336there's not much to these games, they're fine and all with nice art but the endless ranking and threads is the work of a few autistics.
>>723463832>It is just thatyou remember your first one better.
>>723448875>Dawn above AriaOpinion disregarded
>>723450909>It plays like classicvaniaYeah with infinitely worse level design
sotn is the one I enjoy the most. the post ps1 castlevanias do weird shit like make the weapon a spell or something. just give me an item with damage numbers and I'm happy
I’m playing circle of the moon with the card mode hack and it’s fucking kino
>>723461336The good Castlevanias are the linear action-platformers. SOTN and its followups are mediocre titles with japanese gambling addiction seeping through them.
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>God tier, polished and unique1, Portrait of Ruin2. Aria of Sorrow3. Order of Ecclesia>Great tier, fun but flawed4. Dawn of Sorrow5. Symphony of the Night6. Circle of the Moon>Garbage tier, massive falloff 7. Harmony of Dissonance
>>723448308It's the single best Castlevania game there is, so you tell me
>>723452761WHO RAISED YOU
>>723448308>>>/vr/12100143
It's not only good, it's the best of the exploration Castlevanias by far.
I consider Order of Ecclesia to be the best they ever made.
>>723450736"Main theme comes back as a stage theme during a decisive narrative moment" is such an unbelievably kino trope it's unreal
>>723448308Replayed it and Portrait last year when the remasters came out. Both games have bad level design and a lot of copypasted areas. Ecclesia is a bit better due to the MP bar basically acting like stamina in modern games, so there's no need to spam MP potions like a retard, and the bosses are generally a lot better (though Portrait's final boss is amazing). The games are still hopelessly archaic though, the movement sucks and you only get 1 attack animation per weapon. The dash is an END GAME UPGRADE in both, while it's the first ability you unlock in basically any modern MV, many games even start you with it. Things like this just make you scratch your head.The farming/loot aspect can tickle a certain brand of autism though, if you have gambling tendencies. There's a lot of random junk to collect, even though half of it is the same reskinned weapons or recolored projectiles.
>>723448308I played it a few months ago and it was pretty fun, though a few enemy drops were insanely annoying to get.
>>723448308I can't stop thinking how hairy she is down there
>>723448308Yes its good i beat it yesterday. It has some bullshit bosses who are harder than dracula himself.The level design is different in the beginning and you dont feel like youre playing a true metroidvaania because you never feel like you need to backtrack to unaccessible areas once you get a new move. The game actually feels like OG castlevania games at times. I think this is why lits of people dont like it.The story and characters are also very barebones
Also. Why do faggots on /v/ love pretwndung SoTN is shit or that AoS is the best? Fuckung cintrarians. Might as well say Bloodstained is better than most castlevanias because in reality only SotN beats it
>>723467573Bloodstained IS the best thoughever
How are the DS games on the Switch? I was thinking of getting the collection.
>>723467573The games are all more or less the same so it's just a nostalgia wankfest for a long dead series.
>>723448308Overall really good but has some uninspired levels here and there and TWO water levels. Difficulty is also all over the place, it's pretty challenging
Save states and rewind make these games brain dead easy. But I just recently found out that the original Castlevania japanese release had saves. lol
>>723467691Pretty great
>>723448308Exceptionally good, all the GBA and DS castlevanias are a must play.
>>723448308Yes it's a good game but it's still a low-tier 'vaniaAoS > PoR > SotN > CotM > DoS > OoE > HoD
>>723470532>4 hour game with no difficulty curve is the best oneWOW, way to out yourself as a complete shitter
>>723448308I played it back in 08. It was fun.
>>723450909It plays worse than a Classicvania, has awful level design, and like most of the bad Igavanias, has way too much grinding for drops.
>>723448308Marathoned the handheld Vanias this year after only ever playing SotN and Lament in the series, and I'd say it's a little middle of the road. Idk if it was that I was just burnt out by the time I got to it (I played them in order of release) or what. I'd say it's definitely the joint weakest of the DS games with Dawn, however Dawn has Julius mode which kind of ekes out a win for me personally.SotN = Aria > Portrait > Dawn >= Order > Dissonance > Moon
>>723448308Top 5 in the franchise, easily
I've come to accept that we're not getting any major announcement this year and that the 40th anniversary event might just a collab with the new Bloodstained game or the chink mobile game finally being officially announced. I hope I'm proven wrong, though.Captcha ORRRA.
>>723471751We might get the 3D collection. Curse of Darkness is really gonna fuck with tourists, though, and I'm all for it.
its great but i got filtered in the castle at the end.
>>723472150The show's dead, Jim. There will be no more tourists, the moved to Devil May Cry.
>>723472565Well, Devil May Cry survived DmC, so I'm sure the fans will be fine.
>>723472565>The show's dead, Jim.If a new game gets announced next year, we'll really be living in a good timeline.
>>723472678DmC got fucked over by Itsuno and his team helping in the definitive edition and Capcom pitting DMC4SE vs DmCDE in salesNow you have the retard show, Itsuno is gone and even if Kamiya wanted to get back into DMC they're working on Okami 2 at the moment so it's at least another 5 years before a new DMC game.
>Metroid stole Mercurysteam from CastlevaniaPoetry
>>723473147I'm glad DMC4SE won the race.The next DMC will probably be a remake, spinoff or God forbid, another reboot since the story doesn't exactly go anywhere after 5.
>>723473367Itsuno said DMC5 was the end of the Sons of Sparda saga in one interview. Not that he'll have any say in what happens next since he left Capcom.
>>723448702Thing get interesting once you reach the castle.
>>723466979Heh
>>723473256Well, not exactly a big loss. Bloodstained outselling Lords of Shadow was proof that Konami was wrong and that people still loved the old formula.
it's alright
>>723448308It had a touch screen mechanic I absolutely despised. Aside from that it was okay. Kinda boring, coop setting and characters. I'm unsure if I like it more or less then Harmony.
>>723473256It was the best thing to happen. Mercury Steam is way better at making Metroid games than Castlevania games
The next Castlevania game might be a Dracula's Curse remake.
Man, fuck Konami, they don't announce anything for Castlevania then troll us with this.
>>723473993are you thinking of dawn of sorrow where you had to draw glyphs to defeat bosses? In OOE you don't have to use the touch screen unless at all
>>723473993>It had a touch screen mechanicit doesnt.You're thinking of dawn of sorrow with the shitty magic seals
>>723474775The Albus mode is ass on any device without a touch screen as you need to tap on the screen to blink teleport. No idea how the remasters handled it, probably just a virtual cursor on the right stick, which is nowhere as fast as you need to be in order to own bosses with Albus.
>>723474610>remakeVile.
>>723448308Easily the best of the DS IGAvanias, it filters retards and SoTraNnies, makes them seethe because they can't spam attacks.
>>723474951Well, you know Konami.
>>723474775>>723474868You needed to touch the screen to paunch Shanoa around. It would show up in boss fights and sometimes for navigating. Anyway I hated it. A lot. I would hope they just fixed the whole mechanic in the remaster but I dunno.
>>723475057>paunchLAUNCH fucking hell.
>>723475057>>723475123You mean the Magnes glyph? I never used the touch screen for that.
>>723475164I dunno that's just what I remember from my time with the game when I played it back when it came out. It had these little floating balls in some locations and you had to use them to launch Shanoa around sometimes. And these annoyed me. Maybe you didn't need to use them at all fuck if I know it was years ago.
>>723474871kek this was me first time I played it for about 2 minutes, then my neurons fired and realized how absolutely kino everything was about to become.
>>723475301Yeah, that's the one. I never needed the touch screen for it.
>>723448308It's kinda boring but has some nice art and music.I get that it wants to be a classicvania, it really has like zero interest in igavania shenanigans, even Draccy's crib is just a big wavey line, you get flight endgame and it's literally worthless. But it's a pretty boring one if judged next to them. Also the chest grinding is pretty bad. It's not Dawn of Sorrow grinding bad but otherwise might be the worst grind system in an Igavania.>>723475057It's just controlled with character movement entirely now, and I think you could in the DS version too.
>>723475057The touch screen was 100% optional in the main modes for both Portrait of Ruin and Order of Ecclesia, but there were specific optional uses for them like directing your partner character, or the Magnes glyph.The touch screen let you do some pretty major sequence breaks in Portrait of Ruin, since mid-air characters after a character swap have a small window to perform a coyote jump.It was the secondary characters like Sisters Mode, which was touch-screen centric, and Albus mode, which uses the touch screen to perform teleports, that actually did require the touch screen.Thankfully Dominus Collection has controller support for that, and if playing on a Nintendo Switch in handheld mode you can use the touch screen.
I hated Dawn of Sorrow's weapon crafting system, I liked just fucking around with random drops and whatever you could find in terms of weapons in Aria of Sorrow.
>>723448308it kind of scares me how many people rank one of the worst (still good though) Metroidvanias as number 1, like, talk about fucking absurdly overvaluing presentation over gameplay, damn
>>723448308Worst beginning of any 2D vania game, first third is so shit before it starts getting good.
>>723475335>yfw GO TO HELLhttps://youtu.be/QfecIgaCD7w?t=217Best girl
>>723474951If it's made by M2 then it's certified kino
>>723475492Dawn also has random drops and weapons you could find around too, doesn't it?
PoR > AoS > CoD > HoD > SotN > DoS > OoE > LoI > CotM
>>723475492I don't mind it in principle, in practice with the dumbass dupe system and absolutely awful drop rates it's really bad.
>>723475492Yeah, it was seriously annoying how you couldn't just go find the best weapons, and had to sacrifice boss souls for the top tiers of each weapon class.The Claimh Solais was massively underwhelming in DoS too.
>>723475057>You needed to touch the screen to launch Shanoa around.I always did it manually with the dpad which was a pain in the ass but it got the job done. I never even knew you could use the touch screen to control that, that makes it even worse of a gimmick imo.
>>723475592Crazy how Konami just dropped an entire new game with a collection. >>723475641Yes, but they all suck and only exist to upgrade with crafting. Armour and accessories, however, are the same as Aria.
>>723475714>Yes, but they all suckI don't remember having issues in Dawn, and I didn't use weapon fusion at all when I played it
>>723475683Yeah, it was a chore to do, especially since getting 100% weapons and souls required multiple playthroughs, I'm an autist, so of course I did all the playthroughs. >>723475689Agreed, it made earning new weapons less fun.
>>723475756Without the weapon fusions, a lot of the best weapons are locked behind it, though the rapiers and spears didn't require boss souls, so a Chaos Ring run isn't as annoying as it seems.
>>723475501This, SoTN is not even close to the best.
>>723475861>Without the weapon fusions, a lot of the best weapons are locked behind itI don't mind that, to me they're more like the souls. I can grind them if I want for something extra.I do have to admit that it was fun getting the Solais in AoS the first time, but after that, god damn it trivializes the game.
>>723475592Revisited is decent, not great, but the original arcade game is awful. Castlevania III is already great.
>>723475957The soul drop rates in Dawn were horrible, but they were fun to play around with.
>>723448308it ishas some clever platforming gimmicks i haven´t seen copyed elsewere and it´s a solid entry in the seriesit starts by levels on a world map that you can revisit until you make it to the castle which is a propper metroid labrinthit deserves more fame
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>>723476089I think that's the fault of the luck system being broken.Did they fix that in the recent re-release?And speaking of re-releases, where's fucking SotN, Konami?
>>723476156Would be funny if she peed too herself haha
>>723476156I know where those tentacles could be goingRight into her ear__
>>723470606>4 hour game with perfect pacing is the best oneCorrect.
Seriously where is the 3D collection?It's easy money for Konami.
>>723476178>Did they fix that in the recent re-release?No.
>>723476510>Lament of Innocense>Curse of Darkness>C64/Legacy of Darkness>JudgmentAll of my money directly to Konami's bank account!
>>723465219Bump Order down to the flawed section and I agree. Aria and Portrait are legit masterpieces, but the others are still great games. It's just Harmony that's truly shit.
>>723476178Yeah, the luck system sucked and to my knowledge, it was never fixed in the collection. Man, even phones have SotN, so a PC port wouldn't kill them.
>>723476510I don't see anyone EVER talk about the PS2 games, only the N64 one, and only in the contrarian "fuck you I riked it" threads. Are the PS2 games REALLY that bad?I played the first game for a bit 20 years ago and it was basically a jank action game in copypasted JRPG dungeon, not unlike Persona 3's Tartarus. It played nothing like the 2D ones, and there was no actual castle to explore, just corridors, so I dropped it right there.
>>723476510For the 40th anniversary, maybe since I don't see Konami doing anything bigger.
>>723477152Bads a strong word, just boring in a way that's not even fun to complain about.
>>723477097>mfw we're gonna get the decomp before an official PC port of fucking SotN
Is lords of shadow worth playing ? Also why the fuck is it $30
>>723477232>picrelAlucard's design was the only thing I liked about Nogturd.
>>723477256The first one's a mishmash of whatever was popular at the time, the 3DS game was fun and 2 could've been fun if not for the stealth sections.
>>723475057>>723475301>>723475490>>723475693>You needed to touch the screen to launch Shanoa around.Just for the record, no you did not. In fact you literally cannot control Magnes with the touch screen if you wanted to. It looks like something that would be touchscreen-controlled, but in fact, it's controlled with the D-pad only. Emulate the DS rom right now and see for yourself. We've had this same discussion countless times at this point and Magnes being touchscreen-controlled is a common case of the Mandella effect when it comes to this game.
>>723477541Shanoa is so squishy because she's not a fighter, she's a mage. Miriam is part demon or some shit but Bloodstained's universe is even less grounded than Castlevania's
>>723477336>implying he liked the original seriesYou're not above Nocturne by any stretch, slop-eater.
>>723478030I hated the original Netflixvania even more.
Good timing. I'm about to start Castlevania 1 and will probably get totally filtered.
>>723448490It's literally a stamina bar with a different name
>>723478286Just saves cum :)
>>723476510I mean the 3D games are shit. Even Konami understands this.
>shields>You have to equip healing items and use them as weapons>No weapon varietyAnyone placing SotN in any of the top 5 when every game improved in it in some capacity is suffering from extreme nostalgia.
>>723448308Yes.
>>723478238The show's dead, so it doesn't matter anymore.
>>723478689Good.
>>723476753>Judgment I'll only accept a Judgment remake or remaster if they fix the character designs to actually look like pic related and not Deathnote-vania.
>>723477152>Are the PS2 games REALLY that bad?In an absolute sense no, but they don't excel anywhere outside of the soundtrack either, and for all the pearl-clutching in response to Lords of Shadow, Lament of Innocence in particular is itself very derivative. To put it another way, if the original game or IV is your baseline, Lament of Innocence has about as much in common if not less than Lords of Shadow does. Kojima's designs give more continuity with the series as a whole, but the translation to 3D is awful. Leon's character model is just horrid even if you like the design on paper (or canvas). Curse of Darkness is more novel but the level design is a similar injustice to the audience and the combat isn't particularly good.The real crux of it is that the fifth and sixth generations were rife with 3D action-adventure games of all stripes and quite a few of them are far better than the PS2vanias. It was true in 2005 and it's still true now. The fact they failed to capture the essence of the series or whatever is almost beside the point. I think most people defending them (they're few in number but they exist) are largely doing it out of loyalty to the good ol' days.
Yeah but the hitboxes are dogshit.
>>723479265
>>723479265>let the crap touch you>take damage MOM THIS GAME CHEATS
>>723477152The level design in them is absolutely bottom of the barrel to the point where encountering shit like a switch, a flight of stairs or even a fucking gap to jump over is a standout moment.It's not uncommon in CoD that you traverse rooms that are just corridors with nothing in them - they're just there to waste your time.I put that shit on twice the speed on an emulator and it was still tedious as fuck.
>>723448308I love how Dracula didn't take Shanoa seriously in the least and he only loses because she's literally an anti-Dracula nuke and then goes all WHAT THE FUCK THIS IS BULLSHIT
>>723479018I kind of liked Death design
>>723448308I have. I'd say it's good.
>>723477879Is it a Mandella effect or is it just a mistake? Cause I'm sitting here now thinking about replaying OoE because I never even had to use the touchscreen at all apparently so all I've learned is I'm retarded. Not again.
>>723476510Japs have no concept of the future so they get rid of the source code when the game ships.See: Silent Hill
>>723480503Too much naked bone, needs his cloak.
What is Michiru Yamane doing nowadays anyway? Still working with Iga?
>>723480613It's just SoTraNnies conplaining about a game they never played.
>>723480613Stop feeling sorry for yourself, bitchass
>>723480613I remember using the dpad but it makes sense you see a DS game with an angry birds mechanic and just assume it's a stylus thing.
>>723480613You can use the touch screen to place pins on the map screen, at least.Intended as a reminder system, speedrunners discovered this shit allowed for some serious memory corruption shenanigans when you use it in boss rush mode and load a normal save.
I can't believe Hornet STOLE Brachyura's signature catchphrase
>>723481368You use magnes in a couple of places at best and endgame you have the flying metal boomerangs and you can pretend to be Spider Man
>>723448308I played it. It was fun
>>723481854I'm glad the Bloodstained sequel is coming out months after Silksong did, nigs comparing the two and being assholes about it would've sucked.
>>723448308The best Castlevanias are Aria of Sorrow, SOTN and all the DS games. How you rank them is in large part subjective as they all represent a very high level of quality.
>>723448308its ok, its the worst of the DS trio
I'm glad we all agree Circle of the Moon is dogshit, classicvania movement with metroidvania design is a terrible choice
HOD Would be the easiest money glitch in the world if they ported it (correctly) on pc people would farm that shit like there is no tomorrow!
>>723482179>I'm glad we all agreeThe fuck we do, maybe it's just you and your gay pleb friends. CotM is fucking kino. You'll understand when your taste in vidya matches your taste for dick.
>>723482593Grimoire of Souls would've bene great if they didn't cut so much content, like Soma as a main playable character or familiars.
It was mediocre.
>>723482179Don't talk shit about Circle gaylord. It's top tier and the Dracula fight slaps.
>>723483763They used Circle's Dracula final form for Dead by Daylight.
>>723484079I'd be happier to hear they used it for a good game instead.
>>723483763>the Dracula fight slapsIs there a Castlevania with a shitty Dracula? Even the bad ones at least have a good Drac, that's usually required.
>>723478560SotN is the best metroidvania and it's not even remotely close. PoR is a distant second, and the rest are all below that.
>>723484849I didn't care for the one in HoD. Still, he has an insanely good track record.
>>723484849The original Haunted Castle had a very unimpressive final form.Literally just a giant derp face. The remake actually does something cool with the concept tho.
>>723484849belmonts revenge's dracula was ass
I remember liking Dawn of Sorrow and Portrait of Ruin and I was hyped for order of ecclesia day 1 but when I played it I didnt like it and dropped it after 2 or 3 hours. I hated the way all the weapons were linked to the magic meter thing. Also it was way harder than dawn and portrait.
>>723485351forgot to add. I think I should give it a second chance with the steam port. If it ever goes on sale for cheap I'll get it.
>>723485351>I hated the way all the weapons were linked to the magic meter thing. Also it was way harder than dawn and portrait.That's a good thing tho, it actually makes you pay attention to fights instead of spamming weapons to insta win.
>>723485351Think of it less as a magic meter and more as an attack stamina bar.
>>723485240Looking like a gigachad edit lol
>>723485560>>723485583I'll give it a second chance if it ever goes on sale for cheap on steam
>>723485617Remake gets a lot more crazy with it.
>>723467087Eh I like games where you get the dash upgrade letter. Makes it feel like a meaningful upgrade when you finally do get it. I played Maverick hunter X for the first time last year and hard mode switched around all the upgrades. It felt so good finally getting the dash that it actually trivialized the rest of the game along with the chest armor lmao
>>723485675The game has 2 parts to it's story.The first half feels like Simon's Quest and the second half is one big castle to run around in.
>>723485351I replayed it on Dominus collection and the water nymph boss actually stonewalled me for a while. The first two bosses are really easy (SHOOOO is more of a puzzle boss) then after that the game throws bosses with loads of hp and damage at you.Elements matter in OoE though. If you're fighting an armored enemy, bonk it and it'll go a lot better.
>>723485560At least until you get nitesco pretty much everything is weak to either fire or holy.
>>723486110Mainly I use double sword gyph with strength boosting equipment.The swords are quick enough for some decent dps.
>>723486285The true early game bullshit is the axe.Due to its arc you can safely attack enemies above and below you, turning most encounters into a cakewalk.
>>723486285You'll only need maces and hammers when you get to eligor and the colisseum otherwise armored enemies are pretty scarce
>>723485891>Elements matter in OoE thoughElements matter a surprising amount in most Igavanias, always surprising to have to switch to a bonk because you're flat out doing no damage to a giga skeleton or armor guy.>>723486420A very slow cakewalk. It's not 2006 anymore, I think most players are fine with taking the dangerous, faster option these days, I know I did when I played it for the first time like last year.
>>723486456>maces and hammersMeant maces and axes lol>>723486420Early game you can only throw a couple of mid axes and wait for a bit so while it's effective it gets kinda boring.
>>723448308yeah, it's the best of the franchise.
>>723448308I really liked it. Unfortunately I think its budget restrictions are more apparent than the other games with maps being essentially reused (like PoR) and some places just being straight lines but the atmosphere is great and the mechanics are cool. It came out when I was old enough to drive to FUCKING GAMESTOP and when I got home and played it a movie called In the Mouth of Madness came up on the SciFi channel and that was a pretty damn nice combination.
It was OK. Not a fan of the stamina bar or the gay boss medals.
My problem with Eclessia was at the process of changing glyphs most of the time, specially when you want you familiar glyphs to stay there around without switching to fucking MAGNES glyph, fuck that Glyph and fuck Eclessia. And fuck Shanoa too.
>>723474871>left claw suddenly hits you in the lower left platform in phase 3Archaic game design, especially since you cant react to its attacks the first time since you dont know where it is swinging. Also being limited to two spaces four times is awful
>>723448875damn, a list of the only worthwhile Castlevania
>>723448308I played it for a bit. Remember some giant enemy crab.
>>723491549*blocks you're path*
reminder that ooe isn't hard it's tedious
>>723491896This.
>>723448308Yeah I think it's my favorite from the handheld Castlevania games. Good challenge and they actually put some effort into sprites and didn't just rehash them from previous games.
>>723490473Wallman medal, my one and only
They tried making it a hack n slash by copying Devil may cry in Curse of Darkness, and Lament of Innocence. Then they tried to copy God of War by outsourcing it to some spanish development team to make Lords of Shadow.Konami had the big opportunity to make a Castlevania in the souls like vein because Souls games are just Metroidvanias in 3rd person environment. Little zoomie kiddies would call it a rip off but if Konami played it right we could have a had one of the best games ever. Now that ship has sailed and nobody cares about souls likes.The last thing we had fro Castlevania was a partnership with vampire survivors and some Dead by Daylight shit.
>>723491342You can have several setups loaded though, and magnes with the boomerangs is fun as fuck.>Fuck ShanoaWould. Definitely would.
>>723493439We had the haunted castle remastered.
>>723493448you mean 3
>>723448308my personal opinion: portrait > ecclesia > dawn
>>723494649>regular setup + Sword/rapier & Rapidus Fio>magnes setup + Axe/Hammer>volaticus setup + Light/DarkWhat else do you need?
>>723494649I only need one
>>723494897>volaticus>no nitesco setup???????????????????
>>723484849The one in Dracula X
>>723494897>enemy is resistant to slash/blunt/light+dark magic>no paries>no dominus buffyour going to have to waste time changing your setup in your speedrun bro, too bad
>>723448308Yeah it's good. Some people hate it (like all games), but most like it.
I wish castlevania games had more skill based gameplay
I tried playing 4 and rondo of blood, but I'm getting filtered, it's too much trial and error.Should I move on to the n64 and ps2 games? I've already played all the metroidvania castlevanias.
>>723448308I recently finished Bloodstained. Recommended way to get into Castlevania?
>>723495238Nitesco takes over the main setup once you get it. >>723495673>enemy is resistant to slash/blunt/light+dark magicName 3.
>>723495957The Classicvanias exist.
I enjoyed it. What out for that fucker with the gun. Thats about all.
I don't think any of these Igavania has great leve design but OoE somehow manages to have the worst of them all. You don't like OoE, Shanoa just makes you hard as a diamond.
>>723465219Put SotN on the first tier and switch CotM with HoD
>>723496582>SoTraNny mad
>>723474508>Mercury Steam is way better at making Metroid games than Castlevania gamesthe main reason why dread is good is because of nintendo tard wrangling
>>723448308Everything about that game is perfect ut the fucking gylp system with the stylus is fucking ass it completly ruins the game sometimes. You beat a hard fucking boss if you fuck up the gylp mini game the boss comes back to life and you have to beat him again. The rpg elements is kinda pointless you can be level 99 but the damage output is very little. Still one of the most fun castlevania games out there. Story is kind a dumb. I had to give up my emotions to get gylp powers and in the end she smiles. So fucking lame also you play as a grill which didnt really bother me that much. Still worth emulating
>>723495995Just start with SotN like any sane person.
>>723497075You're thinking of dawn of sorrow's seal system. Bosses just die normally in Ecclesia.
>>723448308Was told by the internet this was the best castlevania and the best castlevania on ds I played it was okay. So what's the best castlevania on ds and gba?
>>723497146ty
>>723497264aria of sorrow
>>723497212I think you are correct it's been a long time since I played it
>>723448308I liked Portait of Ruin and Dawn more because OoE boiled down do doubling up on a glyph and spam alternating the two attack buttons until enemies were dead.
if konami remade ooe I hope they make the gameplay better and more fluid
>>723497454As opposed to spamming ONE attack button? I mean, I guess you can argue OoE has a superfluous attack button if you're just spamming the same glyph twice over and over again, but you don't have to do that.
>>723493439The collaborations with Smash and Vampire Survivors are so funny to me, because it's insane how much love those two poured into the projects. Meanwhile Konami just doesn't give a fuck.
So, Konami asking for Iga even as second party to make or remake a new Castlevania game would mean that they were in the wrong the whole time right?
>>723473256Mercury steam is a shit tier dev, Mirror of Fate is easily the worst 2D CV game and Dread is mid as fuck, inferior to fucking fusion.,
>>723473625that's like the last hour of the game, anon.
