Why do most remakes suck?
>>723454797Those are both great thoughbeit
>>723454873She needs those pits licked asap, by me, of course.
>>723454797only people with no taste hate the FF7 remake games.t. played FF7 when it came out
>>723454797because they're made for solely to cash in on memberberries and are very seldomly done with any love 7 demake trilogy is a great example of squeernix milking 7 yet again and making 3 shitty games to be as jewish as humanly possible and retards like >>723454873 eat it up>>723454873yeah i really like how they ruined aerith's death scene in rebirth and shoehorned in zack for absolutely no reason in these 5 minute segments where he does absolutely fuck-all
>>723454992A lot of people here will never be pleased with anything. If they kept it turn based, they'd have bitched about that too.
>>723454992prove it>>723455057/thread
hourly turd based schizo seethe thread.
>>723455104>If they kept it turn based, they'd have bitched about that toomust be why something like clair obscur sold 5 million copies and remake and rebirth probably haven't even reach that combined
>>723454797The only REmake I thought sucked was 3.
>>723455057>for solely to cash in on memberberriesI played FF7 for the first time in 2018
>>723455104nice false dichotomy faggot
>>723455150>clair obscurnormies first JRPG
>>723455145>still mogged by metaphor
>>723455145I love how this is the only image you have to spam>>723455150exactly kek
>>723455201what do you think FF7 was you braindead moron
>>723455201and FF7 isn't?
>>723455169It's true, though. You fuckers are never satisfied with anything. There are probably tons of people who whine about the RE1 remake, despite it being the best example of how to do a remake in the first place.
>>723455150Metaphor Retardio definitely didn't get anywhere that either. (and Remake sold 7 million sweetie)
>>723455218I played and enjoyed both last year. Still can't decide which I liked more
>nothing from RE fans aka normal human beings>just Final Faggots sperging out as per usualyou lot are so fucked up lmaohttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lFRjrLmc_4c
>>723455218>metaflopwho?
>>723454797>Why do most remakes suck?Whenever Sephiroth is not on screen, all the other characters should be asking, "Where's Sephiroth?"
>>723455290>and Remake sold 7 million sweetiecan you post square-enix confirming this themselves? i thought it only sold like 3mil or 4 at the very most.
>>723455285you're just doing it again
>>723455285
>>723455290>and Remake sold 7 million sweetiebollocks
>>723455267>>723455276How many JRPGs that have come out since the FF7? The people propping E33 up as some masterpiece have literally never touched the genre and think that Frenchoids made the first turn based game in 30 years
>>723455361>>723455361>i thought it only sold like 3mil or 4 at the very most. You thought wrong.
>>723455437people who love E33 love it because it reminds them of old-school JRPGs you absolute retard
>>723455437nah most people love it because it reminds them of when jrpgs were peakthere isn't an overworld like it
>>723455458>shipped
>>723455524soldformerly shipped
>>723455428that's right, anon. anything that goes against your opinion is completely fake.
>trying to use the "babby's first" card when you're defending a demake of FF7 of all games
>>723455471>old-school JRPGs>>723455517>when jrpgs were peakLike I said, people that are totally ignorant of the genre and haven't touched it in decades. You need that French Netflix coded wrapper around it to make it palatable
>>723455314the 7R fanbase are INSANELY defensive over their slop>>723455458>shippedkek>>723455609you're trying too hard to hate it that you don't even make sense anymore
>>723455608>tranime poster doesn't know the difference between babbys and normiesimagine my shock
>>723455575shipped =/= sold
>>723454797FF7R is OK. Its not perfect but I did enjoy it and liked more of midgar.FF7Rebirth - utter shit show. Boring start and the moment you leave Costa del sol everything becomes worse.Dead space remake -wasnt needed. Fags defend this when it's just DS2 in DS1s skin.Re4R - no one asked for this.Re3r - we've all seen the mess this one isRe2r - stolen from an indie dev and cut contentYakuza 3R - I dont have the words>>723455332No idea how anyone praises this crap. I completed it last month. Knew from the first dungeon the MC was the prince because of the mistakes the fairy girl says in her story.The ending is louise being proven right because the useless prince runs off after 1 year leaving the country destabilise because he wants to go on an adventure
>>723455652
>>723454873Not RE 4 DEImake
>>723455650Its not my fault you don't play JRPGs and think the hyped up FotM is gods gift to the genre
>>723455652why are you here if you don't like anime?
>>723455702I do
>>723455057>Flawless deep combat >Great characters >Great story >Great art direction >Great OST>Waifus >Good graphics >Lots of content >Memorable moments that stay with you long after the game ends This is a 10/10 game
>>723455654just ignore it says both anon, you're doing great
>>723455741stale copypasta is stale
>>723455290I bought Metaphor from the sale. It's very Persona-like and it's fun but also suffer from same Persona-vices. The combat system is cool and the job and abilities system is great but after Opera House it drops the ball. The end feels more busywork instead of adventure. The social link quests tend to get repetive and flat. The game improves Persona formula but i'd still pick Rebirth over Metaphor
>already seething over E33toppest kek
>>723455750I'll accept the 3M digital sales they announced, but not this "shipped" bullshit.
>>723455750nta but I'm ust ignoring the shipped part
>>723455825>E33 fans are obnoxious and are incapable of not bringing it upyeah, we know
At least post bad remakes, OP
>>723455650>the 7R fanbase are INSANELY defensivederanged*
>>723455872rent free
>>723455057Yea, you sound mentally healthy and happy... I can see why your mocking the Anon who had fun over a paltry 140$ cost for 140 hours.
>>723455872>we
>>723454797Resident Evil 4 remake was made with the same framework as the remakes of resident evil remakes 2 and 3.Unlike the original that was hugely different from resident evil 2 and 3 on the PS1.Similar to the FF7 Remake trilogy, it's effectively Final Fantasy 17,18, and 19.It's not even close to FF7 as a game, even if it uses the characters and world. It's hard to call it a game even.
>>723455940cry harder bitch nigga
>>723455940why do you care what this resetera guy is saying?
>>723455940>why your mockinggo away ESL
>>723455923>game was brought up unprompted
>>723455986>It's hard to call it a game even.Is this what YouTube, gatcha and roblox has done to a generation?
>remake part 3 will come out in 2028 or 2029 and still use UE4 what a shitshow
>>723455940Rebirth alone is over 100 hours
>>723456039They just have an irrational hatred of the game. Where this stems from is anyone's guess.
>>723456025>simply used to refute the retarded notion that people would still hate remake if it was turn-based>made you lose your fucking mind
>>723456025it was used to btfo >>723455104 and you're still seething about it
>>723455987>>723455994>>723455996WTF, is this a tranny discord or does some schizo have 3 IPs, LOL!What a fucking loser. This Anon has never touched a vagina.
>>723456089what would an unrelated game have to do with whether FF7 rebirth would be hated if it were turn-based?Their primary hatred towards the game has nothing to do with its gameplay.
>>723456153>LOL!
>>723456153Mindbroken
>>723454797Both these remake are better than original unc
>>723456169see >>723456114again, it was used as a counter-argument to that retards argument that people wouldn't even want a turn-based game - hell you can even use metaphor as an example - you'd probably cry over that too
>>723455996Actually monolinguals are the ones that use homonoms as they type what they think.
>>723456251Metaphor is a better game than E33
>>723456298fuck off retards
>>723456298>homonoms
>>723456313genuinely insane opinion
>>723456313didn't fucking ask
>>723456298stop posting
>>723455524>>723455654>denialismat least cope properlyIf i were you, I woulda pointed out that RE2R sold 15 million copies by "being a more faithful remake" than FF7R. Of course that's a bad faith comparison, but still an infinitely better cope than what you're going with. lol
>>723456352>>723456353Its the truth
>>723455873OP here, I meant to post this.
>want to talk about how the RE4 Remake pisses me off>it's just squenix retards fighting insteadoh wellnon-guaranteed stuns is retarded. that is all
>>723456205>>723456225Literal tranny discord in the wild. Never seen one of these, LOL! You guys just obsess about random jrpgs and how you'll never know the touch of a woman?Seriosly, what is this turd worldness?
>>723456396I don't think anyone defends this remake. At least nobody who actually played FES.
>>723456396I like that game as well. This is just a "Good JRPGs" thread
>>723456318>>723456339>>723456363Always 3, same low IQ punctuation. What faggots.
>>723456459>FES>Can't control party membersdropped
>>723456493>same low IQ punctuationThese modern newfags are insane
>>723456383only cope here is pretending shipped means sold
>>723456557nigger it says BOTH
>>723456493Are you okay? You aren't making sense.
>>723456493take your meds ESL
>>723456545I think turdworlders. Probably street shitters or favela monkeys.
why are ff7 fans so unhinged?
>>723456582see>>723455841
>>723456493>ESL gets called out>suddenly cares about punctuation
>>723455841>I’ll accept 3MYou’ll accept 7M and like it, bitch.
>>723456661
>>723456616>>723456612>>7234565451, 2, 3. 1, 2, 3. 1, 2, 3. Glad you dumb fucks started using some capitals. Still wont get you laid you poverty perma genetic deadends but its classier, LOL!
>>723456708every fucking timeimagine caring about that on a fucking imageboard
>>723454797It’s to make you upset
>>723456749sybau
>>723456749there are 4 replies you schizo
>>723454873Rebirth was great, could have done without 4.
>>723456709nah i won't accept "shipped" from anyone
You always lose something when you're making a derivative of an original
>>723455790Metaphor shouldn't have had a calendar system like Persona
7Rfags are insufferable. So are Fatlusfags now that I think bout it. I'm glad AstroturfBot won.
>>723456493>>723456821There are 5 replies. Can you not count you fucking retard? This is why women wont fuck you.
>>723455923>>723455948It sucks
>>723455790it's just gimped persona in a boring setting
>>723456906exactly
>>723456881Astro Bot is similar to E33. In that the people propping it up don't play platformers, so Astro feels like some crazy innovative thing. When in reality the worst mainline Mario game is still better than it.
>>723456892i c wat u did thar
>>723456892HE'S SEETHING
>>723456313>Metaphor is a better game than E33
>>723456943man E33 really does live in your head rent-free huh
>>723456991it makes weeaboos seethe because it's not made by glorious nippon and is more successful than their recent slop
>>723456906>boring settingMetaphor's setting and world is one of its strongest aspects. I hope they expand on it more. I liked the idea of planning out quests using the calendar system. I think if they made the dungeons better and had more rewards/consequences for spending days on the road it would be even better.
7R and Metaphor are both shit, but I feel Metaphor is a much lazier game.
>>723456959Your ok for a discord tranny>>723456961Your sad even for a discord tranny, tell your ESL buddy to suck my your.
>>723457035ok
>>723454797Pic not related
>>723457035it's shit
>>723454797Zack being on the cover pissed me off so much. I fucking hate that generic faggot.
>>723456991Its just a similar phenomenon I've noticed. Mostly from snoys and casual gamers. They've been exposed to Last of Us derivative shit for so long that they've forgotten what else is out there, so when games like E33 and Astro Bot get critical acclaim it feels amazing for them because they know nothing better.
>>723457106same. he doesn't even do anything in the game. just shoved in there to cater to secondaries.
>>723457126jrpgs is the most casual genre out there
>>723457059>>723457079Great counter arguments sisters. I'm sorry it didn't have a 2 minute dating cutscene for you to goon to
>>723457126you're just obsessed
>>723457174argument for what? i respect your opinion. i just don't agree with it.
>>723457157That doesn't refute my point at all, but that sure is an opinion
FF7R is great if you play it with the nude mods. Also Yuffie is 18 in my head canon.
>>723457126Or maybe astro bot is just a really well polished and fun game
>>723457226you don't have a point
>>723457226E33 isn't even a Sony exclusive you butthurt fucktard
>>723457240>astro bot is just a really well polished and fun gameIts okay. It has way too much playstation branding in it. Feels like a big ad at times. If the sequel does away with all that it would be better for it.
>>723457157>>723457175>>7234572401, 2, 3.
>>723457126>shit I made up is fact haha
>>723457259I do, you just don't agree with it or it upsets you>>723457279I never said it was. I said included snoys with casual gamers because there are a lot of casual gamers on playstation
>>723457298fuck off already sperg
You're trying to chase that high you got as a kid when you played these games but the reality is that you are old, bald and a virgin, you're mixing up your own depression with the quality of the game.
>>723457298Still counting there, huh buddy?
>>723457336>I doWhat is it? You just hate popular things because you're a contrarian faggot who thinks he's a hardcore gaymur.
>>723457323What did I make up?
>>723457361I already typed out what my opinion was, and I like plenty of popular games
>>723457369this casual gamer scenario most of these casual gamers you speak off were put off by E33 because they got filtered by parries
>>723457369>>723457406fuck off retard
>>723456991>>723457009>>723457157>>723457175>>723457323E33 is the most plebbit game ever made and the people who like it don't play real JRPGs, it's just trendy cause they played a turn based game for the first time ever, they don't touch real JRPGs cause they need le UE5 graphics, E33 is normie shit propelled to great heights by most casual normie non gamer audience
>>723457126>snoys>asshurt over TLoU and Astro Bot while seeting that E33 isn't on the Shitchkek spotted the nintoddller
>>723456864Mentally ill.
>>723457475I'm sure it will be on the switch 2 someday
>>723457475
>>723457490yep it's obvious as fuck
>>723457435Maybe casual is the wrong label. I've seen a lot of E33 fans talk about it as if we haven't had a turn based game in decades. I can only assume they think that because they are ignorant to what is out there.>>723457490speak English please
i liked rebirth despite the retarded shit like keeping the dumbass ghosts and fucking up aerith's death scene but man i could've even finish metaphor because it was so fucking dull.
>>723457589or maybe because it having parries made people enjoy it because they are reminded of legend of dragoon
>>723454797They don't. If they released back with the originals at the same time, you'd say the remake was better 100% of the time; nostalgia blinds you.
>>723457589>speak English pleasethere was literally nothing wrong with that post
>>723457589>as if we haven't had a turn based game in decadesnot one as original as E33
>wahh Sony
>>723454797They don't. You just expect a remaster when they're remakes then cry that they're different.
>>723457664I've literally read several posts of people saying things like "turn based is back!" as if it had left at some point. It didn't go anywhere. They just weren't keeping up with the games keeping it alive.>>723457671Can you translate it for me?
>>723454797Both of these games are great, especially RE4. Rebirth has its issues fucking around with the original story and shitty sidequest but its still better than most modern games.
>>723454797All art, comes from another realm. Everyone can perceive that realm in one way or another, but some see it much more clearer, and are able to bring back things from that realm in the form of art to our reality, for others to experience. This is why art is associated with words like "forms" and "mediums", something in between the realms of reality and creativity. It's incredibly important to think this way about art, because it helps you understand the artist and what they are trying to create. So now that we know this about art, we can better understand why remakes tend to be bad. There's several reasons, but I'm going to chalk them up to a few for brevity. 1) The original artists are not involved. Knowing that some people are more keen to the realm of creativity, if those people are not involved, then their abilities will not be present, and therefore it's possible the project will lack "soul". 2) If the original artists are involved, then it's possible what influences their ability to enter the creative realm is altered in some way. There's a million and one ways that alter the influence, I won't bother listing them.3) If good artists are chosen, perhaps the original ones, then their abilities might be hindered by people who believe that changes must be made, for a number of reasons, most of them about not offending others or potentially not making enough money.4) A combination of some or all of the above. I could make a 12 hour long youtube video about this subject. Maybe I should.
>>723457782>I've literally read several posts of people saying things like "turn based is backpost them
>>723457782>Can you translate it for me?you're a nintoddller who hates sony and is mad that E33 isn't on the Switch or Switch 2 so you blindly hate on it
I am the only one who loved original RE4 but could not finish RE4 remake?I don't know the remake just felt bland and generic.
>>723457868I'm not that type of autist. I don't know how to pretend I've played games I haven't. I've played most the games mentioned in this thread other than E33. I actually want to play it at some point. The discourse around it is what I take issue with because of what I've already laid out.
>>723454797there's no passion, is just for the money.
>>723458061>some retard on xitter posting some dumb shit means everyone thinks that
half of the posts ITT are mine and defending ffviir. it's actually very easy to see once you know that.
Why are there so many posts about Metaphor and E33 in this thread about bad remakes
>>7234593497R fanbase is entirely schizos
>>723454797Most remakes are made out spite or a lack of love for the original.Remakes should be reserved for mid tier games that had potential but were ruined by flaws that could be easily improved on, like imagine if they remade Red Faction Guerrilla, a game with great destruction physics but open world slop makes the game way worse than it should be. No one should remake masterpieces, you can't improve on near perfection, it just shows you how arrogant and subversive these people really are or how much they don't give a shit that they will exploit peoples nostalgia.
>>723454797The RE4 remake might be the most pointless remake ever made.Any game that was produced in the middle of the PS2 era is modern enough in graphics and gameplay to not need a remake whatsoever, remakes should stop at the PS1 era games, and even then we could make exceptions were the graphical limitations of the PS1 were the entire point of the artstyle (for example Vagrant Story, the unique artystyle only benefits from the PS1 and any remake would destroy it).
>>723455994why are you crying over 4chan posts
