https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jAFUAEJXzyckino soon
>>723470737Hmm, looks good
If I had one criticism, I think the combat system could be a bit better tutorialized within the game itself. It takes players a while to get the hang of it, and better tutorials could help that. Heck just integrate this video into the codex.
>>723470737That's nuts.
>>723470737Not too bad, but the game could be darker you know? doesn't completely feel like it's night.
>>723471683malk squirrel
>>723471683Thanks for the squirrel.Maybe shizos and shills aren't that bad after all.
>>723470737I can't stand first person hand to hand combat. Since there are no weapons, i'd rather play full stealth/social because i will absolutely not play some faggot ass magic caster.
>>723472008>some faggot ass magic casterImagine disliking magic lol. You're a lame-ass nigga.
>>723472059Go put on a dress and wave your wand around.
>>723470737I didn’t even realise this was almost out I thought it was still stuck in development hell
>>723470737Reminder that this thread is made by an unhinged shill that just has been having a mental breakdown for 24 hours. He has gone full schizo.https://arch.b4k.dev/v/thread/723442557>>723358153
>>723472008first person slappers are the bestget some taste
>>723472127ogey
>>723472132>He has gone full schizo.I think it's more of a case of >oh god please be good please be good i've been waiting for this game for so long so it can't be bad right
those animations.these colors.this logic.goty 2025, 999.999/10
wassup bitches
>>723472226Dude, he spent the last thread replying to the same shitty cat image while pretending to be multiple people and discussing if it was ai. He has gone full schizo. He is still doing it >>723472346
>>723472404kotgod...
>>723472008they are just super rare and no-one is trying to make a proper one or innovate. It's always auto lock, qte, fatalities, auto combos etc.
>>723472404Okay, this has got to be AI.
>>723472404>>723472458>>723472537>already replying to himself and continuing the tantrum Wh>>723466482y are the mods so fucking useless?
>>723472537no they just trained this dog very hard
bisexual game for bisexual people
>>723472682Is that supposed to be a bad thing?
reviews are out
>>723472682do you consider bisexuals topdogs? lmao.desperate and depraved people, like trannies, loser.
>>723472828About what I expected desu.
>>723472828Bad, as expected.
>>723472919>above average score>bad
>>723472391What the hell is that animation style? Is it on threes or did you skip every other frame?
>>723472828Even IGN gave it a 7, wew.
>>723472945Yeah its shit, journos don't give average scores unless they don't get paid.
>>723472945the average score for videogames is a 7
>>723472828The average brain dead retard loves the taste of shit, who knows how it might end up selling.
>>723472828Shillbros... not like this...
>>723472828Not surprising.
>reviews are good (I don't like the game)Yikes, paid shills.>reviews are bad (I don't like the game)See? Told you it's shit lol.>reviews are good (I like the game)See? Told you it's great lol.>reviews are bad (I like the game)Yikes, normalfags don't get it.What are the reviews for, again?
>>723470737>no actual melee or firearm combat>invented a way for a vampire to use telekinesis to save animation>sold as a sequel that cut two-thirds of the features from the previous gameFrom what I've seen, this game looks like crap.
>>723472828AIIIIEEEE
Having a VTM game without Frenzy is crazy & I'm so, so sick of Unreal Engine cut-and-paste metropolises in games that don't let you explore for shit. Other than that it's a serviceable game, not one that I would pay $60 for though
>>723473078>>723473183>shill has to say that journos don't matter after saying they will love itIf journos think its mediocre then its dogshit. They exaggerate and sugarcoat everything
>>723472828Wasn't the first one also critically lambasted at first or was it always considered good?
>>723472987the same MAN that gave veilguard a 9. I'd say I'll try it for myself. (probably pirated)
>>723472828kekthe next cope will be "yeah it's bad but not as bad as Bloodlines 1 which was SHIT, VTMB was never a good game"
>>723473183If a game from a big publisher gets bad reviews across the board it must be seriously bad.
>>723472828its over
>>723473215>invented a way for a vampire to use telekinesis to save animationI think it's an elder Potence ability akshually
>>723473183I'm in love with this picture, all I can say about the topic.
>>723473357>VTMB was never a good gametrue. especially at launch
>>723472828>short>boring fights>choices don't matter>no inventory>almost no character development>terrible performance>enemies level up with you>tiny map >anything outside main story is fetch questsyep, it's about what I expected
>it doesn't need to be like VtMB>it doesn't need to have good writing and characters>it doesn't need good journo reviews>it doesn't need good user reviews>it doesn't need to sell well>it doesn't need to be popular
>>723472952Its amazing that the 'animation' can't beat a 20+ year old game. The game industry is dying.I'm pirating this shit but I'm expecting it to be god awful. Will be fun to laugh at it while drunk though, ignore the nigger shill
>>723473327They don't have the money to pay for a 9.
>>723472828>IGN: This is further limited by the fact that you can only equip four Disciplines at a time, and only one from each category – so, for example, you can't mix and match two different clans' movement abilities to create your own hyper-mobile playstyle. I don't see the wisdom in these restrictions at all. I also don't really enjoy that each Discipline can only be used once in battle before having to feed again, since they each have their own separate pool of power points, instead of having them draw from a common pool of stored blood that I could spend however I like. That basically killed any hope I had for the game, holy shit, how can developers be THAT stupid. Power fantasy was basically the only thing this game had going for itself
>>723473296The difference is that critics nowadays somehow have less of a spine and will give you a 8+ just because they got a review code.The fact they're giving it all sixes should tell you something considering how much they let slide.
>No NosferatuBoooooring, this retards couldn't be bothered to make something outside ordinary normie looking vampires, the original changed dramatically depending on what clan you pick, I bet in this is all the same just with slightly different attacks
>>723472828Eh, I was pretty sure this would be trash since the moment they fired the original writer.
>>723473726What did you expect from the walking sim devs?
YIKES
>>723472828Yeah it's bad, but not as bad as Bloodlines 1 which was SHIT, VTMB was never a goo-...Wait!..
>>723473774>Eh, I was pretty sure this would be trash since the moment they fired the original writer.The OG concept was shit too (Thin-blood wank) so I think its safe to say... THE GAME SUFFERED THE CURSE... OF CAINE... FROM ITS INCEPTION
>good writing and story>bad gameplayyeah it's a vtmb game alright
it's jober..
>>723473791Even for a group as dumb as TCR, mana systems are something so obvious and ubiquitous with these kinds of games I thought it would be a given
>no replayablity>shortjust like the original am i right
still pirating it, i have to see for myself
>>723473756Don't mind the shill, he's been saying how this shit will totally get mod support and a dedicated following like VtMB has. even though VtMB was rushed out the door on a new engine and this had six years and two devs on UE5.
>>723473726What? So, for example, as the mage vampire, you can only use an offensive spell once before feeding? That's completely retarded, every clan would play basically the same.
>>723473907u never played og, zoomy
>>723473849>good writing and storyYou just can't stop huffing copium. The story is dogshit the shitty "sequel"
>>723473907Kinda, yeah. The replayability of the 1st game is greatly exaggerated.
>>723473215>>invented a way for a vampire to use telekinesisSecondaries out
>>723472828oh no no no vtmb2 shill what now?
>>723473983>You just can't stop huffing copium.I'm summarising the reviews faggot. I'm not playing this game
>>723473954>you can only use an offensive spell once before feeding?WHAT?MY NIGGER YOU ARE PLAYING AS A ELDERYOU SHOULD HAVE A BLOOD POOL TO SPAM POWERSThis game's design is somehow worse than I imagined, holy shit.
>>723473969The shill just says that about anything. His go to cope when things fail is to just say "w-well its just like VtMB"
>>723473836I don't know what the og idea was but a good writer can make a stupid-sounding story actually good.
>>723472828>its getting lower
>>723473726>you can't mix and match two different clans' movement abilities to create your own hyper-mobile playstyle.That's not a problem. As an elder, you can have out of clan disciplines that your character learned back in the day>I also don't really enjoy that each Discipline can only be used once in battle before having to feed again,That's kinda retarded, but could work if the abilities are genuinely powerful. In VTM 1 I liked firing off all my dominate powers and feeding on the stragglers
>>723473726that's horriblekind of in character for v5 though, where you're useless if you don't feed constantly because hunger dice will fuck you over
>>723473907>>723473986You had like 3 different games depending on what clan you picked zoomies, try and play it one of these days
>>723474061>I don't know what the og idea was but a good writer can make a stupid-sounding story actually good.Fair enough I just hate v5's focus on thin-bloods and it comes across as DONUT STEEL-tier retardation. Maybe the writer could have made it work, we'll never know...
>>723473726sounds mega gay
>>723473726>each have their own separate pool of power points, instead of having them draw from a common pool of stored bloodEeeeeew what the fuck were they thinking?"What if player finds OP abilities and keeps using just those?"
>>723474040No shit you are paid to do damage control, and will say this trash is like VtMB to cope nonstop. Get fucked.
>>723474129You can squeeze out two unique-ish playthroughs back-to-back (malk and non-malk), if you really like the game. No more than that.I replayed the game several times, but each with nearly 5 year long gaps.
>>723473658>the 'animation' can't beat a 20+ year old gameIt's blatantly unfinished, man. You usually have animators do the important (key) frames, and have juniors do the inbetweens (transition) frames, while you step in sometimes to make sure the intent carries into the finer motion. Whereas here, it looks like someone stopped the juniors mid-work and just said whatever, ship it.>I'm pirating this shitYa, can't blame you. Fucking Paradox doesn't deserve money anyway.
TOTALTHINBLOOD(final) DEATH
>>723474174I wish I was paid for posting on 4chan but you are mentally ill accusing every poster of being a shill. Take your meds or throw yourself off a bridge
>>723474173imagine playing a powerful elder vampire in your powerful elder vampire roleplaying video game
>>723474174Meds, now
>>723474274>WAAAH STOP CALLING ME A SHILLYou just went apeshit for hours, saying "nu uh" and crying crazy isn't going to work. Take your own advice and drink some bleach.
>>723474254Nosferatu is also somewhat unique from the others, sadly they weren't added in this
>>723474254>inb4 nosferatuBarely changes anything other than making navigation miserable.
>>723474401I have no idea who you are on about. Log off and get some fresh air.
>>723474321>shill gets called out>immediatly starts spamming replies and samefaggingSpecial kind of freak you are, diate mutant.
>>723472952probably ai framegen. this is the future we´re expected to be exited about.
>>723474023he already tried "bloodline 2 is just like bloodline 1 and will become a cult classic" and "bloodline 1 is absolute dogturd anyway", sometimes in the same argumentso a mix of both
>>723474467>i have no idea about shit that was posted in the thread just a retarded lie, you always play dumb when you fuck up. >>723472132 You really are fucking braindead
>>723472391>>723472952It's completely unfinished, only key posses frames and basic computer calculated movements between those. Artist is supposed to go back and keep adding and tweaking frames, to smooth it out, but I guess they've ran out of time lol
>>723474615I see you in every vtmb thread screeching. Do you have anything else to do?
>>723474484Seriously, take your fucking meds
guys my game flopped what do i do now
reminder that this website runs on unmaintained 10 years old code the current team inherited from moot and they treat it as an ad farmthe only recent updates to 4chan has received:- removing IP counters in threads to hide and empower samefagging- removing the public bans page to hide unjust moderation- removing the mod feeedack option from the feedback page to hide mod abusemods have no accountability, bans are arbitrary and vague, the ban page often doesn't even show the post in questiontherefore you are ethically obliged to shitpost and ban evade as much as possible
>>723474752>>723474765>i-i don't know what youre talking about>okay i do but uhhhhh>waaaah medsCrying I'm crazy after spending hours samefagging and doing everything I have said just rings like you being a psychotic toddler.
>>723474173Players can't be trusted. They will use 1-2 abilities and then say game is boring. Gotta make them play the as intended, force playstyles and variety. Look at Skyrim, it's all stealth archers. Developers know what's fun for you, shut up and eat your peas.
>>723472828It will have tons of DLC and will be good after 2 years.
>>723474120>you're useless if you don't feed constantly because hunger dice will fuck you overExcept hunger and frenzy aren't even in the game (even the first had THAT bare-minimum), so it's even more retarded than it seems
>>723474948IP counter was removed specifically so deranged faggots like yourself would stop screaming about samefags any time the post count went up without IPs climbing up with it. Didn't help much, as you can see. Nice self-report either way, cancer.
VTMB 2 confirmed as a good game
>>723475059both paradox and the chinks said they want nothing to do with the game once it releases lmao
inb4 its goty writing and journos h8 it cuz they didnt get itbet on the chance% /v/?
>>723474901>It isn't a flop, there were 60,000 players on gamepass>We flopped due to bad marketing, our game is fundamentally good>There is no demand for a Vampire game unfortunately>We flopped due to an unjust hate campaign of hateful fascist nazi gamersPlenty of cope still available for you my friend.
>>723472828>yellow by paid reviewersThats like 3/10 in real metric.
>>723474948Pretty much, and of course you have bottom feeding faggots like >>723475104 support it because it lets them do their pathetic bullshit and cry schizo whenever they get called out.
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how can a vtm game be boring? kys paradox
>>723475251>"A cobbled-together walking simulator with a dead world and poorly paced linear narrative that’s unconvincingly pretending to be an action RPG. Vampire: The Masquerade – Bloodlines 2 is a disaster and not the sequel its legendary predecessor needed or deserved.does he post here?
>>723475304easily, just hire a mediocre walking sim dev team that's never made an rpg before.
>>723472828Ruh roh shillbros. How do we spin that one?
>>723475201
>>723475246You're more than free to go to 8 or whatever else stillborn imageboard any time, since you dislike it here so much to the point of encouraging further enshittification. Win-win situation for everyone involved.
>I should have been the one to fill your dark soul with LIIIIIIIIIIIGHT!!!!!
>>723470737>All those attack delays for the player to dodge and samey animations.This looks so fucking bad
>>723475437I like it here just fine. What I hate is faggots like you that come here to fuck shit up and then cry when they get called out.
>>723475456
>>723472391>>723475456Amazing quality, top-tier animations, award winning writing and dialogue, 10 out of 10, what's not to love?
>>723475568>I like it here just fine>I encourage everyone to shit up the board and ban evade btw :)Whatever you say, schizo.
>>723475456You wanted Tzimisce - you got it
>>723475668>brings up ban evading out of nowhere when the topic was about samefagging >schizoProjecting way too hard you pathetic faggot. If the IP counter was here still you would be frothing at the mouth even harder. But i suppose it doesn’t make a difference since you’re so fucking stupid people can spot your bullshit on its own.
>>723475456anon, pls plae VMTB2 is the best, vomper is goot and bets in geaem play game p,.lsVMtB1 is baed pls donf itlko play gam 2 betttr, Anon plox
>>723475797Are you dense? You replied to the post that literally said "you are ethically obliged to shitpost and ban evade as much as possible" with "pretty much". Do you read what you're replying to selectively, or what the fuck is your problem? Other than paranoid schizophrenia, that is.
>>723475956When did I say that you fucking dolt? If you want to cry about ban evading then do it to the person that said it. You were bitching about how people knew about you samefagging. >Other than paranoid schizophreniaThe funny thing about you saying this is there is a link to your last thread where you went apeshit and showing that you not only ate the same retard that’s in every thread but that you can edit you replies. So ultimately you are a samefag and you can’t prove other wise. In short get fucked you pathetic retard. The games going to flop and you spent all this effort for nothing. Here’s a glimpse at your future, don’t keep it waiting.
>>723472828>form = returned tohow long before the shills start claiming bad reviews is actually a good sign and means it's faithful to the original like they tried to do when stalker 2 released with all the hype of a wet fart
> trash mobs are ez> bosses are overtuned uh oh.. seems like this DEI slop getting out of hands
>>723476343Next thread or the one after that.
>>723476258>When did I say thatHere >>723475246Not even gonna read the rest of your spergout, you've shown that you're being disingenuous right from the start. Or maybe you're actually demented and can't remember what you wrote 5 minutes ago? Doesn't matter either way.
>>723476343Emergency meeting will take a while to organize because of time zone differences.
>>723476537>ignores what I said so he can double down on his retarded copeYou really are the same faggot. >Not even gonna read the rest of your spergoutYou already read it you’re just too much of a bitch to address it because you know that you’ll just end up crying like a faggot again like the last thread. But go ahead and run off or pretend to be another faggot. You’ll just end up getting trounced again like the pathetic piece of shit you are.
Guys I failed a frenzy check.I'm going into a Bloodlines 2 frenzy. I need MOAR Bloodlines 2!
>>723472828The Chink Room specialHijack a popular game, put your own shitty story that can't stand on its own, market it as a sequel rinse and repeat
>>723476739Did agree with the post that said that one is "obliged to shitpost and ban evade"? Yes, you did. The posts are up there. I don't care what schizo narrative you just conjured up on the spot, that's irrelevant. Now piss off, I'm not wasting any more time on you.
>>723472391was this made in SFM
>>723472404truly majestic creature
>>723472391This really feels like the quality of a low to mid tier SFM porn animator.
>>723476802still mad at them at ruining the chance at a good amnesia sequel, the first game was great
>>723473907No.
>>723472391honestly I would have been fine with the janky animation but the writing is so much worse
>>723474445>Masquerade violation every time you're seen by pedestrians>Barely changes anythingRetard
>>723476802>HijackThey got hired as a contractor by paradox, retardo.
>>723473726so you play already a ancient sucker but you´ve been sucked dry of your ancient powers which leaves you being a regular sucker, except your telekinesis, cant be bothered to use your hands like the mortals.@ shill, explain yourself!
Vampire The Masquerade Bloodlines 2?more like Vampiss The Masqueraids Bloodshit Poo(poo instead of 2, haha)
>>723474948Correct. Jannies are faggots who farm engagement from bad threads to keep the site afloat, and jerk off to interracial pornography in IRC. Completely delusional troons that contribute nothing to the site. Niggerbrains like >>723475104 are bitter losers who cannot move on from this site and possess an unjustified loyalty to every retarded thing about it. >>723477580Paradox hijacked WoD and attempted to replace all of the old content with V5, because they wanted a money generating property that's cheap and requires off-hands approach. As you see, they mismanaged it like they do their other games.This entire discourse is about multiple entities puppeteering a corpse.
>>723477429Right back at you, retard. That's a part of making navigation miserable, which I did say was the case. This is hardly something that's worth a whole playthrough after you've just finished another one, the novelty wears off the moment you enter the sweres for the 5th time in one hour.
> STALKER 2 was ass> World of Goo 2 was ass> Homeworld 3 was ass> VTMB 2 is confirmed to be assAll my dreams have come true and they're all complete shit.
>>723477969Stalker 2 was alright after a few patches.
>>723477969Oh no. Whats wrong with World of Goo 2?
>>723477768Based and correct. By the way, IDs are a one click toggle for rapeape the Indian admin but he refuses to enable them on /v/ because schizos and discord cliques drowning out legitimate users with spam artificially increases engagement stats for ad revenue. The IP counter was removed so your favorite boogeyman can push a thread to 500 posts without getting called out and jannys make and protect fetish porn threads while mods will always approve their ban requests for using nono words because /v/ is a discord colony moderated by transsexuals like naemuti
>>723477768And how does that make it so TCR >hijacked a popular game? They're a hired 3rd party. That's like saying Obsidian hijacked fallout to make new vegas.
>>723472828 i expected the early (paid) reviews to put it in the 70 range. now i can't wait to see just how low it will drop after the reviews that had to wait for a release copy, and shill's suicide vid of course
>>723473183Paid marketing. All of them. If a game scores this low regardless it must be total dog.
this is what they get for not adding nosferatus
>>723472391The Team America sequel's looking good
okay but can I romance she? i dont recall buying this game for the shitty gameplay
>>723472391So all the leaks were 100% correct
>>723478336>The IP counter was removed so your favorite boogeyman can push a thread to 500 postsA singular IP can only bump the thread 3 times consecutively, cancerous newfag. Your schizo theory has no basis in reality.
>>723478727There is no romance gameplay either.
>>723477969STALKER 2 is still in early access lol
>>723478727At least we'll get blender porn of her.
>>723478781what the fuck is romance gameplay
I wonder if the guy is an autist who is legitimately excited for this pile of junk or just paid to shill it.
>>723472391>introduce the only cute girl people would want to romance>HAHA GET FUCKED CHUDS
which clan does the vtmb2 anon belong to
>>72347825240% of the game is a rehash of the first game down to winking at you with signs going "well, this is a reiteration of the popular level..." and some story bits along with the OST, 30% of the game is interesting shenanigans with liquids and Extra Hard Levels and another 30% is complete shit where it takes a detour from the actual game and makes World of Goo's chapter 4 but shit to make a commentary on how a World of Goo sequel would be bad, actually, replacing it with gravity puzzles, golfing and a mediocre point 'n' click adventure. The ending ends in absolutely fucking nothing. I wish the entire game was the optional Extra Hard Levels because that was the game at its best. Also the OST is the best part of the game throughout it and it's just the community banding up to remake the OST of the first game. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pdDQsXOPBf8&list=OLAK5uy_nt1eqbbZ4HQjQUfuTCuhdBhGUHCKvgasQ&index=15https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PVbwVUqGk1U&list=OLAK5uy_nt1eqbbZ4HQjQUfuTCuhdBhGUHCKvgasQ&index=6https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uA2pX7FcchE&list=OLAK5uy_nt1eqbbZ4HQjQUfuTCuhdBhGUHCKvgasQ&index=46https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6CVgRghzNUA&list=OLAK5uy_nt1eqbbZ4HQjQUfuTCuhdBhGUHCKvgasQ&index=13
>>723472391thus unironically looks like a bollywood moviewas this made entirely by indians?
>>723478904Saar do not redeem the card buy the vampire masquerade saar
>>723472828Im not surprised its shit, im surprised shills are saying its shit
>>723477429>cope by people who didn't play nosferatuThe Asylum has no sewer entrance. The game you think you are describing would be impossible to complete.
I don't trust the opinion of people who enjoyed troonguard
>>723478851Thishttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JToJi76LI8g
>>723478748>some shit I never saidlol. Did you know that naemuti the janitor is a tranny, ERPs in irc, has a bluesky account with the same username and was groomed as a child and is well over 30 now? He was also responsible for deleting stopkillinggames threads and getting the OPs banned. What’s your next larp after epic oldfag calling out the cancer, outsider?
>>723478748glad to see newfags continue to share their headcanon about the function of a 10+ year old site easily hacked with a stinky pdf
>>723470737I'm so deprived of vampire content, Call of The Night s2 ended and I've already finished the manga a while back.despite the reviews, will it be good enough to play Day 1, wait until it goes on sale, or is it just that bad?honestly from the gameplay vids it looks decent but idk
>>723472828>nice try, lets see if reviews are actually out>check Meta>it's realWTFIt's shocking that many review outlets actually mention how it's not VTMB or that it doesn't live up to original. I expected something like SH2 remake, where everyone's praising an objectively worse version of the game.
>>723479176>>some shit I never saidI directly quoted your post, underage shartard. A singular person can't push the thread to 500 replies. Your nonexistent problem is solved by simply ignoring the threads that you think only have one person posting inside them.>>723479253Go make a thread right now a reply to yourself on cooldown, retard. You'll see it stop being bumped unless somebody else replies.
>>723470737looks janky as fuck but might be fun
>>723479580Torrent, play few hours and uninstall most likely,
>>723470737I still remain positive but cautious. It looks solid at the very least, might even prove to be good. It's not Bloodlines though that's for sure. Then again, part of it has to do with the time and circumstances the 1st game was made if we want to be realistic.At the very least it managed to warm its way somewhat, based on what's been known and showed compared to the circus it was few years ago.
>>723479580I'm pretty sure there's quite a few videos of people playing the first couple hours of the game. They're mostly fans of Vampire the Masquerade (or World of Darkness in general) so they'll be hyping it up but you can see how it looks and runs.
>>723479737Yeah I think it might be enjoyable as a vampire game but not as a VTMB sequel
Is it gonna be better than playing a modded vampire in Skyrim?
>Mirror's Edge (dead)>Deus Ex (dead)>VTM....why do all my favorite series get put on the chopping block ; ;
>>723479669stop whining about your boogeymen newpiggy, better use that time to provide a source for the claims you've made earlier>inb4 newpig gonna start whining about muh schizos and muh splinters because honest administration is not allowed
>>723470737ultimate shill guide when?
>>723480004Why not both?
>>723480058Which claims exactly?That you can't keep a thread afloat from one IP? That's easy to test, go do it.That you're an underage sharteen? I can tell by how invested you are in the mod team drama and the language you use.I think that covers everything I said.
>>723478048>>723478802i'm waiting for it to get all the big patches, because personally, i liked stalker, but not enough to get into the russian gun mod autism.how is it in the "i'm creeping through this abandoned underground secret lab and there traps and monsters around but also if i get that artifact behind the death tornado i get mad cash" kinda feel?
>>723479669>such a mind broken simp for indians that he thinks everyone who shits on 4chan is from the shartyabsolute kek.>still talking about shit no one saidkek squared. I’ll spell it out for you ESL. A schizophrenic like Barry can go into an FF thread, reply to literally every post with some incoherent garbage about FF14 or 15 and keep the thread bumped with ragebait. Nu4chan is engagement farming like twitter and rapeape would rather use hiroyukis money to pay a dev to try to stop vb than tick a box for IDs on /v/ or implement a implement a minimum character limit for OPs to stop threads beginning with “.” and a twitter screenshot. You’re white knighting for a lazy and moronic indian currently begging the FBI on twitter for help stopping the ban evasion site while his staff are troons with cp collections.go and call me an election tourist next lol, I still remember being on 8 laughing at people like you trying to defend the janny irc leaks
>>723480169I always had more faith in this fucking mod than in VTMB2. Each passing day I'm proven more right.
>>723479737you unironically think that this looks better than what was originally pitched? do you work for TCR?you´re exposed to a obvious downgrade and still say with a straightface that it´s a upgrade?What are your thoughts on the original CP2077 pitch? Was probably to dark and mainstream for you right?
>>723477969>Dragon's Dogma 2 was ass
>>723480169I dunno why not both. That's why I'm confused how random nerds can make something better than payed group of professionals. And TCR had a lot of work done for them beforehand aswell.
why can't I grab a gun lmao
>>723480673If you're talking about Hardsuit version, then yes.That game looked like absolute mess, and just because they made promises that it'll be a "true RPG for true RPG fans" doesn't make what they's actually shown any better.
>>723480169What mod?
Is Jeanette's outfit still a pre-order DLC for the game, or they went back on it?
>>723481075That was the old studio.
>>723481045
>>723480589>keep the thread bumped with ragebaitAs I said, this isn't gonna happen unless somebody esle replies, you can't continuously bump from one IP. And if somebody else DOES reply, how the fuck does an IP counter or addition of IDs help? You think a schizo'd stop posting and others'd stop replying if everybody could tell that the posts originate from one IP? Fucking delusional is what you are.
>>723470737is this woke? I will trust whoever replies first.
>>723480673Yes I work for TCR was it that obvious? What's your specific grievances between pre-TCR and after? What are the downgrades?
>>723481161maybe
>>723481208I don't know what to do with this information
>>723481161No.
>>723481237You should ask /pol/, they are very knowledgeable and hold no biases.
>>723481161Game's about vampires, it's literally all about sleep.
>>723481183no tremere waifucan't use guns like a non-retarded person
>>723472828>>723474074The shill will say the OG was slammed on release too. As if the shitty TCR version is comparable. >>723481075It was cut and you cannot wear any skirts
>>723481157Of course it wouldn’t stop them posting. Like I said, the point of removing the IP counter and not using IDs is artificially boost activity by enabling the worst people on the site as well as culture war ragebait and twitterers coming here to make le epic shitposts. /v/ is the second biggest board on the site and activity collapsing because it was actually moderated for once, like bring back the primary/secondary/tertiary content rules, would be bad for hiroyuki’s ad revenue and paying his debt to goodsmile.
>>723481527>tremere>dresses and acts like a t*reador whoreNo thanks.
>>723481554V5 troons have already been throwing BL1 under the bus to try and prop up this obvious shitshow
>>723472391this doesn't look like a finished scene, I assume this is just early concept?
>>723481151Thanks. The phone front end sucks
>>723481682They will be quiet once it flops
>>723472828oof, I didn't think it would be that bad, thought it would be good enough for the masses at least
>>723472391This looks shit wtf. Like a SFM animation.
>>723472391What the fuck is this? Why does it look like every second frame is missing?
>>723481579>Of course it wouldn’t stop them postingOk, so it doesn't matter.>the point of removing the IP counter and not using IDs is artificially boost activityAnd what the fuck do I care? You yourself admitted that it wouldn't change anything post-quality wise. What are you counting other's money for?>enabling the worst people on the site as well as culture war ragebait and twitterers coming here to make le epic shitpostsIt didn't change a thing. Actually, no, it did, it made posts crying about samefags whenever the IP counter didn't go up far less frequent, so that's a positive.Another positive thing they've done is adding a cooldown to make ban evading on cellular networks harder, though for you that's probably a negative going off what you posted earlier.
>>723471003>>723471323>>723471683>>723471823completely organic posts btw
>>723482334So now you’re back to simping for the trannitors and explaining why nothing needs to change and that’s a good thing. Kek, that’s why there are multiple communities and innumerable autists that do nothing but shit up this place. Clearly adding more captchas will work if we pretend most of the spam isn’t caused by the fact that everyone knows the jannys make the porn and chuds lost threads. The issue is trust in moderation and people here have none because they know the janny applications are fake and used to cover up discord nepotism for people who hate them. You’ll probably make some faggot point about how I’m just suggesting more moderation in a different way, I’m not. I’m suggesting things that staff would do if they didn’t hate you, even /pol/ is treated better lmao. People like you encourage the ban evaders even more than the actual mods do, this place is full of beaten animals that are happy so long they get their janny approved brap, fat fetish or 3D black woman ERP threads.
So is this the Ysabella ERP thread, or...?
>>723483858>simping for the trannitorsShan't be reading further, I'm off.
>>723483858Let’s not forget gacha threads. Janny protecting all of those except the horse girls one is perfectly fine with the mods since the only thing they care about is posting rate and fighting the culture at against their users. Some janny hating a particular game or squatting in an erp thread that’s permanently on the board is fine if they do the important things like making the board worse >>723484225lmao you will never be a woman
>>723472391YOU FUCKED UP MY FACE
>>723472391is this the ending?
so how is it
So this buried the chances of another wod game for at least another 2 decades right?
>>723484798>>723472828
>>723474445the navigation is not miserable at allthe dialogue for almost every NPC changesplay the game retard dipshit ignoramus neanderthal
>>723472828>Bloodlines 2 isn't your typical RPGin fact it isn't an RPG at all!
>>723485086>the navigation is not miserable at allIt is.>the dialogue for almost every NPC changesNo it doesn't lmfao. The initial reaction of some NPCs changes, the dialogue trees not so much.>play the game retard dipshit ignoramus neanderthalYou first, LARPer.
>>723484854Mage was never going to get a video game.
>>723485359You are literally lying. You are a detriment. I don't like you, die!
>>723485204Subverting expectations!
>>723472828>b-but the original wasn't received well too!lol imagine it came out the same day with half-life 3, the way the original did with HL2, you wouldn't hear a single fart about this slop
>>723484770yepthere's also a very short slideshow epilogue with how you influenced the city
>>723488180Grim
>>723485204I love walking sims!
All they had to do was call it something other than VtMB2 and people wouldn't have complained about it not being an rpg like VtMB1. It's hilarious that trying to tie it to VtMB for money is exactly what makes it flop.
>>723488558They couldn't do that for this due to all the money paradox got from pre-orders when they announced this game so they legally had to make the game and call it Bloodlines 2
>>723472828There was a little guy in the far back of my mind still with a sliver of hope that this would be at least decent, and he's quit his day job.FUCK this cursed IP man.
>>723472828Fully expecting that the daily shilling threads will suddenly die out soon
>>723485479I'm going to Will it into existence.
>>723489668you will face Paradox backlash
>>723472952That entire cutscene blatantly unfinished, despite the multiple "polish" delays. HOWEVER, whoever made that webbum skipped every other frame to make it look even worse than it actually is.Unfortunately, it seems like the original uploader got all of his videos DMCA'd since I slept, so now I'll be called a shill with no proof that the extremely twitchy animations are obviously sped-up by video editing software.NIGGERSI DENOUNCE THE TALMUDDON'T PAY FOR THIS GAME
>>723470737I have no expectations for this game and will be buying it when it's more than 50% off, simple as that.
>>723489668WTA will easily get a game before MTA does, but it's at least not as never ever as MTR
>>723490161Werewolf already had a game that no one played, a new Hunter game is more likely than a new Warewolf
>>723490161WTA has a game already lolMTR?
>>723473296First game's writing was so good that it single handedly saved the game. I don't seem the same thing happening here.
>>723470737>Deep Dive No. 3 with (C)HuddyWhat did they mean by this?
>>723490263Mummy the ResurrectionAlso the fairy one, forget what it's called
>>723490326Changeling the Dreaming I think?A Demon game seems less likely but Wraith did get game after all
>>723490449It DID? What game?
>>723470737honestly, Chinese Room was a poor studio to ask continue the project, considering they have little to no experience with ARPG gameplay.they should've gotten someone like Techland or Ubisoft (worst case) to continue it's development
>>723490486Wraith: The Oblivion - AfterlifeIt was a VR Horror game that didn't really have anything to do with how Wraith played on the tabletop
>>723490161>WtA game We already got that one, turned out to be mid at best. Gimme a Hunter game, simple enough for normies to enjoy and WoD fans get something
>>723490326>>723490449These splats are just too esoteric to work.>you are a ghost and you get to do burecrautic work in a darker and edgy version of the real world!
>>723478871Caitiff, obviously>THAT'S NOT A-Shut up.
So this leak was 100% accurate and Outstar knew and was just running interference
>>723489443Aisling, my love...
>>723491570did she demand they made her self-insert uglier for the release?
>>723472391So wait, your dorky waifu is a final boss? Jesus Christ, it's so dumb.
>>723491595she wouldn't spit on you if you were dying on the sidewalk
>>723491752The joke is that Aisling Sturbride is probably one of the nicest vampires in the lore. To the point other Tremere are creeped out by her. She's also hypercompetent to the point of being a deus ex machina character.
Brehs...VTMB is done. No one will ever touch this IP again. Fuck...
>>723492063I mean, V5 happened almost 8 years ago. You are only noticing this NOW?But the good news is that RPGDrivethru is still selling V20 rulebooks as print on demand, so you know what to do.
>>723492209a bit pricey
>>723489443>>723492063as long as it's managed by people that write like this it will never thrive
is the ora ora rush attack tied to a clan?
>>723491570Outstar works for Paradox, can't trust anything she says
>>723491570It's slimier than that. She was running interference by harping on a specific aspect that a series newbie didn't understand.Years ago, when Brian Mitsoda was suddenly fired without any (public) explanation, she made one off-the-cuff remark that implied he deserved it. Something to effect of, "you don't know what was going on behind the scenes" in response to someone complaining about his firing. /r/ing a screenshot, if anyone has it.I get it, shilling is literally her job, but there has to be better ways to handle these things. The Discord messages she was responding to in THAT screenshot were deleted by mods shortly after, even though they were correctly spoiler-tagged and included a "these are unsubstantiated alleged leaks" disclaimer. That server's a fucking cess-pit.
>>723492005lol wat
>>723492884Is this the same server that bans pepe emotes or was that an exclusive Hardsuit labs thing on their discord.
>>723492636no
>>723493039I don't know about that, but I saw them delete a message (and give an official warning for the entire server) over saying "ree", with the explanation that it mocks autistic people.
>>723492509I read the latest WTA CYOA novel and it's wild how they write their politics into the story. Werewolf as an IP is pretty receptive to that I suppose since werewolves are a bunch of retarded rejects from modern life but even if you accept that some of the stuff they write just jumps out of the page and screams "this was written by a crazy person".
>>723493219Sounds like the server I was part of once but left once I heard Mitsoda had to go. Plenty of warnings given for people posting pepe react emotes. Really faggy.
>>723493272>heir politics into the story. Werewolf as an IP is pretty receptive to thatEven then, WW fucks that up the entire thing with the Get of Fenris being super Evil Neo Nazis in the new edition, or the removal of Native American Tribes because they were problematic, is a clear example of writers not even getting an IP which is just Grimdark Captain Planet
>>723493219But Vampires Scree all the time
>>723492636Its a statrting Brujah ability but you can unlock it on any clan and it apparently doesn't even take very long
>bad reviews>means i can buy it for $5 on a key site next year
>>723492884>The Discord messages she was responding to in THAT screenshot were deleted by mods shortly after, even though they were correctly spoiler-tagged and included a "these are unsubstantiated alleged leaks" disclaimer.I thought as much. I made those posts originally and when I saw the above webm with Safia, I went looking for them again, only to find nothing.
>>723494104:/
>>723493460>the removal of Native American Tribes because they were problematic, is a clear example of writers not even getting an IP which is just Grimdark Captain PlanetWhen you're playing a big 2.15 meters tall regenerating kinda dumb raging murdermachine communing with gaia, the question of if the evil capitalist respect pronouns or is a vegan ethically sourcing his own produce should really, really, really be the last question you would ask.
>>723472132I'm not saying you're wrong, but I have seen people go to truly ridiculous lengths to troll.
>>723472132You are right. I am glad this shit is getting negative reviews already,
>>723493460The main antagonist was a wyrm spirit or something like that and a black spiral dancer. I don't remember exactly how they worked but it was somewhat obscure/esoteric but in a good way. Then there were the Get of Fenris guys who like you said are right wing now. I didn't mind it as much because I was never invested in the old lore. It's lame but it is what it is. What really got me was how much contempt for polite society the characters had. Like, I remember they were building a police training facility which apparently is basically demonic (wyrm tainted) and pure evil on every level. Or like how the spiritual conflict neatly lines up with mean right wingers being rude to all the homosexuals, trannies, and other freaks who are of course the good guys. I kinda buy it, even though it's annoying. Werewolves are modern mortals who are forced into the periphery of society by their conditions. I buy a crazy hobo high school dropout who spends his days with other social rejects being into all that stuff.
ngl even if the writing was shit i would play it if the aesthetics were 90s focused, but they're not
So, Safia is a Tzimisce, right? And that fact somehow flew under the radar of every Tremere in the area, even though the Tremere are widely known for being paranoid fucks?
i wanted it to be good
>>723494881I played VtMB 1 at release here when I was far younger. I would have honestly bought absolute dogshit if it had been done half way competently. As in, "we tried", participation medal award tier. Put some skills, some mechanics, try to get a half way VtMB 1 successor. I would have bought the new game if it had shit quests, shit maps, and shit characters, as long as they did.What anger me is that TCR didn't even try. Or failed so much and so hard it's as if they didn't even, once.
>>723472828>positive reviewsstory is good characters are good>negative reviews*liberal adult tantrum voice* REEE IT'S A SEQUEL IN NAME ONLY JUST CALL IT VTM: THE NOMAD THEN I WOULDN'T BE ARBITRARILY BAD
>>723472201Condemned was good. Knocking the homeless' teeth out never gets old.
>>723495281Shill-kun you lost. People wanted a Bloodlines sequel not TCR wanking off.
>>723495221You played the game already?
>>723476802I still like how this killed Amnesia forever
>>723495169arn't basically all the Tremere dead in Seattle?
>>723495584>Amnesia Rebirth>Amnesia The BunkerAmnesia still seems alive.
>>723495208I wanted a walking simulator with big tiddy vamp gfs. They fucked it up, all of it, even Christina Hendricks.FUCK YOU CHINESE ROOM.
>>723495653Never heard of either, its dead in the popular conscious. Thank you TCR!
>>723495731The tremere clan lady had a cute goth lolita dress, what was lost...
>>723472707Faggotry is sin, repent or perish troon
>>723495949>>>/pol/ is that way, tradlarping cringelord.
>>723495731I still hope the HSL version leaks fully one day
>>723495208
>>723495731I didn't realize Pandora was a butchering of the Tremere waifu...
>>723495608LA only had one fucking Tremere, but it didn't mean the Pyramid had to stop keeping tabs on him.
>>723495731I actually wonder what happened to Elif. Her design was too distinct to just ditch her alltogether.
>>723472391S H I TS L O P
>>723470737>>723472828>>723473529So let me get this straight. The game is short as fuck and barely has any content. To make this even worse, half the content is taking you away from the character you created to play as the developer's retarded little pet character Fabien. Now the DLCs, instead of making up for the lack of main story content as Phyre, all force you to play as OTHER other characters again, further splitting the content between multiple fucking nobodies? Why didn't they just, I don't know, MAKE A FUCKING RPG WHERE YOU PLAY THE CHARACTER YOU CREATED?
>>723472828>sloplines "2" isn't your average RPGToo bad, I wanted an average RPG. Dropped.
>>723495208yeah, me too
>>723496472>Her design was too distinct to just ditch her alltogether.That's probably why they ditched her imo. Same with Mr Damp, that long haired cleaver dude on the promo material. They're too distinct and people associate them with HSL vision. Thus they got the axe.
>>723496506The Chinese Room can only make walking sims.
>>723496657Why couldn't they at least stick to a walking sim with one (1) POV?
>>723496649I assume Safia is supposed to be some tortured version of Elif, but it's still a letdown.
>>723472391I'm getting Homeworld vibes kek
>>723496694They seem to be in love with the idea of Fabien. I don't know its weird.
>>723496964Because its the fucking Chinese room they dont know how to make an rpg they make walking simulators
>>723496964Can we please stop doing "you have another personality in your head" plots already?At least Johnny Silverhand was fun.
>>723495208>>723496348>>723496627Sucks to suck. Get a real job next time.
>>723470737Is the soundtrack out? Rik Schaffer composed some new tracks for this
>>723497260This is the only thing I care about too.
>>723472391Oh Lord.
>>723497156I see people shitting on Johnny but it was refreshing to see a character to have a unrepentant, soul-crushing hatred for big corpos.
>>723496964>>723497095>>723497156>~12 hour game>~6 hours as Phyre>~6 hours as Fabien>DLC with ~3 hours as Benny>DLC with ~3 hours as Ysabela>Playing as your protagonist unironically has less content than playing as other characters What did they mean by this?
>>723497452He's a type of asshole that eventually grows on you. And you can tell Keanu had fun with the role. That helped.
>>723497452I was really surprised by how kino Johnny was. I went expecting to dislike him but nope, ended up liking the guy.
looks surprisingly pretty decent, i just wish some of those npc attacking animations were a bit better. i mean some are good, but they clearly used an intern or something for stuff like 0:35. Fucking baby steps, no dynamic posing, distance moved isnt matching the urgency or movement of the animation, just weird amateur shit. which is bizarre because some of the other npc attack animations look fine. must be a wide array of animators working on npc combat
>>723472391Welcome back homeworld 3
Holy shit, this is GOTY for sure.
>>723496964It comes with being a walking simulator company, and not a RPG. Two completely different mindsets. With a RPG you give players the choice and mechanics to create their own stories, and to play their own characters. You're happy when they do so. In a walking simulator, instead you embody a very present main character which talks about himself in a narrative that talks about himself with disembodied voices talking about himself in long walking sessions.TCR were nominally forced to create a RPG but really didn't want to. They "fixed" this contradiction by having you spend 50% of your time in flashback playing as Fabien in the Fabien walking sim. They really didn't want you to play a RPG.
>>723472391this has indicators of a potentially decent animator, because the key poses are good, but like the other guy said, this reads like he was rushed or ran out of time. they are letting the computer interpolate a lot of the performance without having proper breakdowns. given the decent composition and story poses, im willing to believe this was someone being rushed rather than outright bad at their job
>>723497460silver lining, the protagonist sucks
>>723497647>looks surprisingly pretty decentNo, it doesn't.
>>723497715>eh, it gets the job done>9/10.I guess the journos are easy to please.
>>723492884The seethe from bootlickers like Sharkey has been sublime. Can't defend any of the rough shit in BL2 without going "wah wah wah, nostalgia" about the first game.
>>723470737I don't get, this looks fun for at least for few hours. Why is everyone saying it's shit?
>>723497882i like how combat looks like it feels. i like zeno clash and dishonored so this seems to scratch the same itch. im sure if you want a proper rpg focused sequel to the original, this probably looks like shit, but as someone who didnt really like the original that much aside from the story and characters, this combat seems much more interesting to me
>>723493635Comic books are so fucking dumb, it's honestly incredible they still exist.
>>723497752You see this is theri other choices like the gun telekinesis thing, that's how they think a vampire should be played/should act, so they force it on the player, it's not a skill that you pick up because you think is cool.
>>723497715the Relaxed Action genre is finna take off, just y'all watch
>>723492884I followed the HSL version closely before it got axed. Outstar got to play the HSL version and she said it was amazing. This was years ago and im sure she deleted the video. She was fangirling over Mr. Damp and a cut Tremere dude back then.Funny to see her switch up and say Mitsoda deserved to be fired and this new one is good!
These Chinese people should just write a book at this point. Why do vidya game, when you try real hard to make it not a vidya game?
>>723497715>gets the job done>9/10
>>723470737>combat guide>for VtMClearly we went wrong somewhere.
>call you game "Bloodlines 2">Bloodlines was already the second game in the VTM series>filthy Swedish parakikes make the retarded game the hill they die on>the game is a waking simulator with rudimentary baby's first FPS combat>has absolutely nothing to do with the game whose name it's abusing, not visually, aesthetically or gameplay wiseI'm having a hard time trying to think of ways this could have been worse.
>>723498106Outstar is literally a corporate shill with no spine.She literally got fired from CDPR for lacking intergrity.
>>723498121They're not Chinese its a reference to the thought experiment called the Chinese roomhttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chinese_room
>>723498176It has Damsel.See? It's a sequel.
>>723498206>lacking intergrity.What did they mean by this
Gamereactor UK – 8/10;PC Gamer – 78/100;Wccftech – 7/10;IGN – 7/10;Dualshockers – 5/10;PCGamesN – 5/10;Pushsquare – 4/10;TheGamer – 2,5/5;Eurogamer – 2/5;Gamesradar – 1,5/5.Jesus fucking Christ. CDAction was right all along.
>>723498231what a stupid name for a company
>>723498206>She literally got fired from CDPR for lacking intergrity.Quick rundown?
>>723497948Play the first game and you'll see that this """sequel""" is barely anything like the original.
>>723498294Can you bite or fugg her?
>>723498231Which in itself is grim when you consider that they were made to make a sequel to a game they've never played, from a genre they've never developed in and with themes they've never explored. "Bloodlines 2" is a Chinese Room experiment where Paradox tells them what they're supposed to make but they never once understand the thing they're making.
>>723498121>These Chinese people should just write a book at this pointThe issue is, they're not good at books either. There are some walking sims with genuinely pretty decent writing, like Edith Finch. TCR never managed to land one of those.
>>723495208>>723470737
>>723498694METALUDOKINO
>>723498694That sounds like Paradox's responsibility too. Where do they find these terrible developer choices.
>>723499765TCR pitched the plot concept to them and some Paradox suit that has no idea what VTM is went "yeah, sounds great. make sure there's room for DLC"
>>723499980Grim
>>723474145>thinbloods are donut steelsYeah, they're kinda just bootleg vampires until plot setting forces you to be a real one. TBF v5 is sort of drawing a logical conclusion from the offset of the first vampire saying blood is getting weaker and weaker but nWoD is shit because it's trying to have their cake (simplify game mechanics, write new lore, remove "problematic" lore like the sabbat or the rapists and whatever) but also they want to eat it too (keep the same continuity so that it's recognizable instead of some whole new setting like DnD did)>>723474129>>723474254eh... even Malk is more unique in terms of it's adding some neat foreshadowing and responses but the majority of the game is fairly similar. It's a good approach to a class system where each class gives you unique-ish opportunities but it isn't it's own wildly different game they have to program and design separately. When you combine that with the character specialties of your social stats and what you can put on it does end up fairly unique but even then the events don't change. It's got replayability but it's not a>wizard/int class is entirely separate game and series of events into the endgameWhich never happens either other than VN type of games like Disco
>>723475025I think the stealth archer is a symptom of magic being dogshit in Skyrim tbqh
>>723495169V5 lore. The Pyramid is gone.>>723495608The only other in the entire city is Ms Thorn, and Lou clearly hates them and wants them all gone.
>>723475382this sounds like an anons work yeah but probably because anons have been having that critique since the first trailers
>>723477580>>723477768As I understand and have heard from anons it was the TCR parent company that told paradox TCR could finish their game fast and for cheap and paradox just wanted it over with
>>723477969>>723480846This is the price for chasing le graphics outside of a 400+ man studio like Rockstar, gamedev takes too long
>>723491405Hunter already had a game series and surprisingly it was actually rather good>>723491531Anything that isn't Vampire isn't really popular enough to sell off of name recognition, and takes WAY more work since it significantly changes from the gothic real world aspects of Vampire>Mage has a bunch of stupid shit like hollow earth and space and outer planes and all that while also having the normal world>Werewolf pretty disconnected from large cities and you need to have a big focus on corporate pollution and other dumb shit that's clearly too high effort for modern writers as proven with Earthblood>Wraith is one-half crapshoot emotional cbt and one half DnD but ghost bureaucracy and slavery>Changeling basically doesn't take place on Earth>Demon and Mummy are feasible but a lot more abstract than Vampire in terms of modernity but muh ancient death cults
>>723500314The Tremere pyramid getting the shaft is one of the biggest crimes of V5
>>723500169>Yeah, they're kinda just bootleg vampires until plot setting forces you to be a real one. TBF v5 is sort of drawing a logical conclusion from the offset of the first vampire saying blood is getting weaker and weaker but nWoD is shit because it's trying to have their cake (simplify game mechanics, write new lore, remove "problematic" lore like the sabbat or the rapists and whatever) but also they want to eat it too (keep the same continuity so that it's recognizable instead of some whole new setting like DnD did)In early 2000s, Thinbloods were basically the character you rooted for because they were at the absolute bottom of the vampire hierarchy, the sad reflection of _you_ because you were at the absolute bottom of the vampire hierarchy while still being a vampire, a source of envy for some because of their resilience to the curse of Cain, and plainly well written. We had rules for playing those, not that most players wanted to play those, but they were like an ideal. Like Golconda: you're not supposed to play a Vampire Buddha in normal play, but they still exist, and by their own existence they shape the world and the setting, etc.How did we go from "Thinbloods are more pathetic than you and that's very pathetic" to fucking Thinblood alchemy and collecting disciplines like pokemon and V5 expecting you to play Thinbloods and fucking getting all the Elders jailed in a castle just to make it happen.
>>723500491Paradox said they will never make another rpg after this lol
>>723472391>we want the tiktok audience
>>723498231>reference to the though experiment called the Chinese Room>somehow never tie that into their games and also still fail to produce anything functionally more solid than a 7/10 even on the standards of being low budgetAre they just retarded or are they adverse to actually having to think about mechanics for once?
>>723470737first of all, kill yourself retarded shillgame is dogshit, has nothing to do with VTMB, only uses its name to salvage some money off the trainwreck they produced and are about to shit out>even down syndrome journos say its trashcheck'em
>>723499765>HSL was a nepo hire>TCR was pitched to them for cheap>all this while they had 2-3 studios with good working relationships or owned that they could have asked to make a CRPG for themParadox is just retarded anon>>723501175kek, classic case of>fuck up horribly because you don't understand genre>don't learn and just don't try againGuess this means WoD as an IP is dead outside of the text games and indie titles
>>723501289The user score will be worse.
>>723501091They actually walked that back, because that's unsurprisingly one of many V5 changes everybody hated.
>>723501091Hard disagree. The Pyramid is neat for lore, but terrible for character-building in an actual RPG. "Woah, unsanctioned fledgling!" like VTMB's magebab is the only way to do it with the Pyramid in play, and that gets boring quick.>>723501530How so?
>>723501167Thinblood were well written back when they were a natural part of the game's coming doomsday scenario but then WW was like "muh metaplots" and actually went through with it, so the only conclusion left is playing perpetual victims and leftovers. Surprisingly Night Road handles the whole v5 post awakening thing rather well though the game fucks up at the later half. Someone said it was because Paradox and WW took the leftist copium and decided you should either play victims permanently or pay for being privileged like with W:tA. I can only shudder at how terrible any 5th edition that comes out for Mage and the other splats will be
>>723501008>Mage has a bunch of stupid shit like hollow earth and space and outer planes and all that while also having the normal worldPeople really don't understand mage, you don't need to show every single aspect in a Mage story, it's kind the point to have too many stuff for one single story to ever cover it all.Even the extreme reality destroying magic isn't really supposed to be in the hands of a player character either, it's like if every vampire game was about antideluvians.
>>723501553Vtmb's unsanctioned fledgling was an exception and there's plenty of ways to work or start in the pyramid and then have your character divorce himself from it later. It was somewhat stifling in terms of how your Tremere was forced to participate in it but it made them unique instead of just being "vampires, but wizards" and supplemented the Tremere having a relatively mediocre clan curse in relation to them getting many different types of magic
>>723501553>How so?For one the destruction of the Vienna Chantry was a 5d chess keikaku by Lord Tremere, and the Camarilla branch of the Tremere recreated their own Pyramid anyway. And everybody in Camarilla is keeping tabs on those Carna retards and even support her movement, hoping she will just kill herself eventually and save the Tremere the trouble.
>>723498206You don't get fired from a corporation for sucking their dick like a spineless shill, what planet are you living on?
>>723501750A mage game would be really boring if you don't try including any other that other stuff somehow or a glimpse of it, yeah it's a style of play different more grounded newer-mage detective action but it isn't Mage without Mage things happening, otherwise you're just kind of playing normal dudes who have a bit of magic
HAS ANYONE LEAKED THE SOUNDTRACK YET. I JUST WANT RIK SCHAFFER'S MUSIC!!!!!
>>723501923She actually wasn't sucking their dicks, quite the opposite. She allegedly couldn't keep her mouth shut and kept revealing the company watercooler secrets to the public. So they fired her.
>>723501861>Lord TremereYou mean Saulot now anon, Tremmy lost the battle unfortunately. Although it could have been a chess move by him before he lost
>>723501750Consensual reality breaks all crossovers with Mage and anything else in oWoD. WW tried to patch it, badly, by saying consensual reality only impacts real humans (supernal something something whatever real reality vampires are real whatever whatever God), but it is a fact, that MtA, utterly cancer everything it touches in a crossover in the oWoD, badly patch put aside.I don't think it's a bad thing. I happen to adore MtA. But let's not pretend it's not a shitshow when you want to integrate it into a crossover with Vampire, Werewolves, fucking Gheists, Mummies, oWoD Changeling, etc.
>>723502028>Rik SchafferAnon I...
>>723502168He got partially rehired so they could use some of his tracks.
>>723502104No, he didn't. BJD reveals that while Saulot took over his worm body and took control of the Council of Seven, Tremere managed to transfer his consciouness to Goriatrix. Again, because he keeps doing that. Than the nuking of the Chantry was the final "fuck you" from Tremere to Saulot, that solved the Salubri problem once and for all. Now Tremere is living in Gortiatrix's body, supporting his clan from the shadows.
>>723502127WoD in it's entirety is a bunch of incoherent schizo-babble because WW wanted the ST to pick and choose what type cosmology he wanted for the campaign. Yeah it's an incoherent mess but you aren't supposed to be using Caine and the Wyrm in the same moment
>>723470737target locking and dodge lmao. this game is DOA
>>723502395That seems pretty silly but very in-line with V:tM metaplot shenanigans
>>723502168After all the outrage, they decided to let him have a few tracks in the game.
>>723501983I didn't say no mage things, but you don't need ALL mage things, people act like the player character has to be an archmage with 10 dots in all spheres.
>>723502575Who wants to bet that Schaffer's music is better than their composers?
>>723502079That means she was hostile to the host company not that she's a "corporate shill with no spine" as the person I was responding to said. Revealing internal things is the exact opposite of being a good little shill.
>>723502723Well of course. I dont even need to bet. Because I know it is. Rik's music is fantastic.
>>723502127When doing a crossover you choose which splat is the base one and any contradictions are solved by defering to what it says, it's that simple.
>>723502723Knowing how passive aggressive and annoying TCR has been throughout this whole thing, I wouldn't be surprised if they basically only let him have like some small segments where he wouldn't even be allowed to shine.
>>723502756First and formost, she's an opportunist that does things for her own benefit primarily. If this includes being a good little shill, she'll be one. If she decides it's not worth it, she'll throw you under the bus like she did with Mitsoda.
>>723502756maybe she was just incompetent
>>723502684no yes that's totally fair, you don't need EVERY mage thing but it isn't mage without some ridiculousness going on. The real struggle in adapting mage is the Spheres though>>723502991TCR has been like that from the start, I'm sure Paradox and them knew there would be a pretty large amount of backlash
>>723502489The Wyrm and Cain can coexist in the same setting with few bolts and nuts being bolted on forcefully. Nothing a few good midnight oil will not solve. The fact that the entire reality is dreamed on by normies and the laws of physics are literally written by humanity is far more intrusive in any crossover.NWoD threw all of this to the bin for "you're a mage, you get magic powers, stfo" and is far more easy to understand and crossover with. I wouldn't say it's an improvement, but many people are loudly speaking it is so. I think NWoD mages are a waste of space and anyone playing it is retarded, but I must regretfully admit that there is a decent sized amount of people who just want to play a dude casting fireball, not entirely rewriting the rules of the universe.
>>723470737I don't care about the combat, I care about the characters and immersion in the fantasy of being a vampire. VTMB was never famed for its combat.
>>723470737I like how the combat looks. Will buy.I swear the combat didn't look this good before, it looked really bad, wtf happened?
>>723496964They gave Fabien this mystery dungeon ass death where there's a long drown out goodbye after he sacrifices himself so Phyre could survive in the sun enough for him to escape. By that point there's only like 30 minutes left to the game...
imo ultimately this kind of shows that trying to work a TTRPG series known for having a focus on roleplay and worldbuilding into a combat-centric ARPG is just doomed to fail, why no one wised up and tried adapting this to a CRPG or something is beyond me. I guess CRPGs were dead in the water until Larian and Owlcat proved they could be successful
>>723481527>tr*mere and a turdroach at the same timeWhat a fucking awful combination.I would say that I hope diablerie is an option in this game, but I dont want that fucking abomination living inside me for my entire unlife.
>>723503270I thought Mage hasn't been adapted for newWoD yet
>>723503481you got a brain tumor, should get that checked out.
>>723470737>Can't carry weaponsImmediate super mega ultra deluxe hard pass times infinity +1. I'll give it a fair shake if it gets updated in or if someone makes a mod, until then, -11/10.
>>723503660Elif got cut
>>723497752Ironic then the WoD walking sims have been made before and have been made better than this with Wraith Afterlife and Vamp Justice
>>723502395Does BJD explain why he has/had a worm body?>diablerieYeah, but WHY did that turn him into worm-Tremere/Saulot?
Early copy arrived. I'm having a blast!
>>723503693There's Mage the Awakening, but we don't talk about that and there's M20 that is the updated version of Owod Mage.
>>723503852Pics or you're lying.
>>723475142It probably was too hard for a gay boy like him.
>>723475184They probably hate it cause the combat is hard and they suck at it.
>>723503270Awakening mage is not exactly bad, but to me it feels like if you took one single tradition and made the entire splat about it pretty much, it's very limiting, also the metaphysics are less interesting, it's basically gnosticism but instead of the demiurge, it's a small group of super powerful Archmages that control the physical world and don't want anyone to ascend to their level.
>>723475142>>723504069>>723504185shills you lost
>>723470737So, now that it has flopped (as everyone here predicted), has the jeet shill who was pushing it here been fired?
>>72347518425%
this is clearly a dumbed down, walking simulator moviegamewhere you collect outfits and shit and spend most of the game with the controller shoved up your assenjoy the "narrative" lmao
>>723504287I haven't seen the shill the last few days. Either I missed the threads he has been in, or it's actually over.
Is V5 a solid way to get a DnD group into VtM?
>>723503852Is it a return to form?
>>723504287>jeet shill get firedHe'll just get hired by a new company. The shilling is never-ending
>>723504347No lmao, either market Vampire 20 to them as a Noir-ish vampire game heavy on politics or Hunter as a Supernatural RPG and introduce the vampire stuff. V5 has a lot less cool stuff in it and it's a bit of a mess to run
I would have pirated if it had at least one cool or hot vampfu like the original tremere girl but TCR only added brown middle eastern ugly women.
>>723503828That was a part of the even older lore.He has a worm body because fuck you, why not.
>>723498294Is she actually in this one? I knew she was supposed to be in the previous version, not sure what they brought over.
>>723504571Brown women are hotter than white women its time to face the truth
>>723504358It's everything I wanted after I just finished watching the new Interview with the Vampire series.
>>723504571i'll pirate it just out of morbid curiosity and hopefully get to carve some good memes out of it
>>723504571yeah this looks so bad its not worth tormenting my SSD with 200 gigabytes of moviegame
>>723504723Yeah, recasted. I think Nora from Fallout 4 voices her now.
>>723504785Its 30 gigs. Which is honestly worse
>>723502395So saulot is dead?
>>723504726Not in vampire works. Name one cool brown female vampire.
>>723505060Onda
>>723504571Lou still remains hot in a "dimitrescu mommy vamp" kind of way. For the rest though I think might agree based on what we know, unless you like ebony or mulattos since there's also that Toreador leader with the big butt and pretty enough face.
>>723505909Doesn't she get killed if you decide to kill the hunter instead of turning her?
>>723506287Don't know bro I intentionally haven't looked for anything lorewise more than the basics. So no spoilers please if you will.
>>723504859>any antedeluvian>legitimately meeting final deathlol, lmaoEven Ravnos' blood in vials is still active. Saulot survived it, somehow.
>>723506287It SEEMS like you get locked into that ending based on that choice, yes.>>723506413Get out! And when you see more Bloodlines 2 threads, remember: don't open it!
>>723505909>>723506287Wait. How do you make sure she survives for mommy milkies?
>>723473296first game reviewed well. the only problem was bugs
>>723473726isn't the whole premise of the game that you're the most powerful kind of vampire? wtf??
Does the setting have a plot that moves forward or it's mostly fluff?
>>723506605Embrace the nigger hunter when you're given the option, or else the Second Inquisition razes the city and burns Lou unalive (heh).
>>723472391failguard vibes
>>723471683Nigga
>>723479665I do think there's some kinda paid review cabal in the games journo industry. People pointing out that the eurogamer reviewer gave veilguard a 9/10, but that just reminded me of shillup's video where he said that all his journo friends hates veilguard as well, but he was the only one to give it a bad score. maybe the critics only get to say how they feel because paradox didn't want to pay the toll
>>723507081Absolutely there is. Why wouldn't you make a monopoly if there aren't any actual rules against it.
>>723506978The ugly one? Gross! Is Lou at least grateful?
>>723507253No idea. There's only been one leaked, complete playthrough posted, and he made the decision to simply murder the nigger hunter.
>>723500276the history of bethesda can be neatly summarized as todd getting really mad that magic players were having fun in morrowind and dedicating the future of his design decisions to shitting on them and pissing them off specifically
>>723507356I don't want to embrace the obese black woman. Why would they link that to the good ending? Why does everything have to be so ugly?
>>723472391I kind of like the animation. It fits an inhuman vampire.
>>723506948VtM as a franchise or just Bloodlines 2?VtM is very well known for its Metaplot ,which led to problems in more recent editions with the new writers backtracking on a lot of things that happened due to the Metaplot
>>723507438I wonder the same. It's very odd.
>>723507081>I do think there's some kinda paid review cabal in the games journo industry. Even after Gamergate and all associated shit that transpired, you merely "do think"?
>>723507472It's a bit anime and stiff when it's not at billion times speed. It looks "okay" but it's a bit shoddy
>>723507472the only part that works in that sense is the bite.
>>723507562Gamergates a stupid fucking example that doesnt even apply here. Jeff Gerstman got fired for giving Kane and Lynch a bad score when there were ads for it all over Gamespot. Thats all the proof anyone ever needed.
>>723507472>I kind of like the animationit looks awful how
>>723507367Yeah a lot of things really got dumbed down between releases but I find it weird that alchemy stacking and exploits never got fixed but god forbid players wanted magic that's actually customizable
CABAL?DID SOMEONE SAYCABAL?MARANAX PALLEX
>>723502991I still remember the "bioware director makes VTMB2 protagonist voiced!" headline. thats when i knew the TCR version was gonna be dogshit.
>>723507691>Jeff Gerstman got fired for giving Kane and Lynch a bad score when there were ads for it all over Gamespot.Then he refused to review KCD1 for being homophobic and racist. Then KCD2 introduced gay romance and an invincible black superhero. What a ride.
>>723507472>It fitsNo, it doesn't, because the rest of the game isn't animated so poorly. Did you forget? That's not a short film, that's the cutscene after the final boss of an entire game.
>>723508145Gerstmann still a threat
>>723508143And they chose a shitty VA
>>723507472>>723508158if it was a storyboard or first draft instead of a finished product, id be kinder towards it
>>723507472Is this going to be your new shilling strategy?>>723507607You keep calling this game's horrific animations "anime". You posted the bossfight with the Toreador Sheboon calling it "anime" I don't think you've even watched one.
>>723508349im willing to bet they made "Phyre" (lol) a Turkish elder for the sole purpose of making us hear a shitty ethnic accent all the time.
>phyre Who writes this shitThey should never write again
>>723508481why would you want to play a boring white person? there are so many races to choose from
>>723495208Dumb Green Alien.
>>723506895no and i don't even know where you got that from. your an elder of around 400 years or so.
>>723508371Realistically, it probably is a "first draft", given the lack of key frames. Animations take time to make, and it's not uncommon for developers to put less effort into the later stages of the game. It's the early shit that gets hyper-polished.
>>723508942i remember reading an interview where their explanation as to why you don't use guns is "you are an elder, and commoner tools are beneath you"
>>723508960It has key frames retard its the fact that the obviously intrapolated the key frames together that makes it look shitty
>>723509060well, yes. but that ain't the most powerful type of vampire, not even close. the most powerful type of vampires are often gassed up to be eldritch horrors in power
>>723508942It actually is plot relevant that you were the baddest motherfucker around even getting called the "Slayer of Cairo" and everyone knows who you are and what's your deal and you need to get your powers back because surprise some Tzimisce bitch marked you. The only reason why Phyre is an elder despite having to go through the same journey a neonate does is just to have him diablerize Fabien so he can be in your head.
>>723501289oof, looks ogre
>>723509608see >>723509231
>>723509694>>723509231ok well even if you arent THE most powerful the power fantasy was a big part of the marketing at least, shitting on that for balance purposes is just another banana peel this game slipped on.
>>723470737any info on the voice acting?should i play fem or femboy phyre?
>>723509694I'm not talking about Caine or the Antediluvian or even a Methuselah , and neither was that anon. You took it too literally. Phyre is supposed to be the most powerful vampire in all of Seattle, just that he was handicapped through shitty plot contrivances. You could've very well been a neonate but they needed Phyre to be an elder so Fabien could exist in his head.
>>723509809Femboy Phyre ofc
>>723509795i think you give too much credit by saying it was done for balance reasons, laziness and incompetence are far more likely causes>>723509953this is 4chan, you should expect that level of autism by now
>>723495731>literally designed with gamers in mind and designed with activists in mind
These threads are cancer. They are the most blatantly astroturfed and inorganic shill threads I have seen since the trannyguard threads last year.
>>723510187I like that we get to talk about wod with non-gay people
HSL version may have been a complete kusoge, but it just looks so much more interesting
>>723510334yeah I still want it
>>723510262Where is that happening. Its mostly just one schizophrenic shill spamming shit and talking to himself for hours. For fuck sake most thread barely hit 300 regularly yet these reach the 500s almost every time This shit has been up for twelve hours and the shill has been at it for longer.
>>723510334>safety>empathy>equality>knowledge>empowerment>reformSounds like House Carna garbage. Are you sure?
>>723509809I haven't listened much from fem Phyre, but male Phyre has the shittiest accent ever because he's from some vague ethnic background. And for an elder he's actually such a corny wuss.
>>723510467Take your meds.
>>723510586I'm not some mentally ill faggot like you that has to spam the same deranged shit everyday on 4chan. You even admitted to being the same retard in the other thread and made this thread to seethe and cry after getting btfo there. The archive link was posted and everything
So did Mitsoda and co get fired because they weren't woke enough? What really happened?
>>723511009>Mitsoda and co>they weren't woke enoughAnon, they are woke as fuck
>>723510937Take your meds.
>>723511203>NOOOO YOURE CRAZY SCHIZO WAAAAAAH>he says as he spends twelve hours spamming the same shit and talking to himself>KOTGODS WON!>replies to himself 20 times just to jack himself own post off and make it look like hes not a pathetic sperg>can only cry the same cope while his tantrum gets worse
>>723511263Take your meds, sperg. Just do it.
>>723511185Sure, but compared to modern day WW/Onyx path?
