It is also essential just the mobile version ported to Unity, not original engine.20 dollarydoos btw.
I have anti-AI fatigue
>>723505783>troon at war with aievery time
>>723506138hope it kills you DESU
>>723506138>>723506398Good morning saar
>mods found the thread and are defending himYou can't make this shit up
Just make another Garden Warfare you fucking faggots, I hate modern Popcap holy shit man.
Copyright and its consequences have been a disaster for the human race
>>723506478they warned me tooI think they just don't want you talking about things that aren't video games
>>723506138I find it really funny.
>>723505783>>723505876kill all trannies
>>723506526make a product that the pvz audience would actually like? stop being transphobic and racist chud
>>723506138>>723506398>saar leave the corporation taking shortcuts for a shitty full priced product alone saar
I’ve been sad to see PopCap be so absent for so long. They were cranking out one hit after another in the 2000s.>Big Money>Alchemy>AstroPop>Rocket Mania>Zuma>Mummy Maze>Heavy Weapon>Chuzzle>Dyno-Mite>PeggleAnd Bejeweled and Bookworm, of course. They seemed unstoppable for a second there.
>>723506138I have 'pseudo anti-[x] fatigue' fatigue.Fuck off.
really looking forward to ea getting gutted once that saudi deal goes through, couldn't happen to a more deserving company. though unfortunately all the execs won't suffer at all and will just bail with a ton of bonus money of course, but oh well, can't win 'em all
>>723506138no saaar leave the multi million corporations alone!
>>723507318I have sneed fatigue
>>723507923Chuck my balls.
It's so sad PvsZ has been mishandled this bad
>>723506138>>723506398
whining about ai upscaling is fucking retarded. you cant even use the art theft argument, its just bitching about nothing
>>723508364They'll call him names but they'll never call him wrong..
>>723508406>you cant even use the art theft argumentYou can, because it was trained on images. It's a fucking retarded argument regardless of how you use it though. The only art theft is plagiarism(saying a trace or 1:1 copy of an art piece was made by you) or outright literal physical theft is art theft.Downloading images and teaching a computer about their patterns is not theft. That's fucking retarded.
>>723505783yes and? I don't really care
>>723508406ai upscaling doesn't have a moral problem, it has the problem that it turns into a smeary mess. the issue isn't "THEY USED AI TO GENERATE NEW ART" it's "the billion dollar corporation couldn't even hire someone to redraw the old art and instead they just threw it all into waifu2x and it looks like shit." especially since isn't the original game a bunch of flash files, ie it should be vector art that can be infinitely scaled up?
>>723508364>Crimes and punishment with jewggle corporate art>L'étranger censored when the arab gets killed and the story going offroad about the malignancy of white people >Notre-Dame de Paris getting fully shafted because obviously all the shit happening in this book couldn't be more distant from the Disney slop people are familiar with>Le Compte de Monte Cristo twisted because according to jews and Altman white man going on a revenge: BAD>Maldoror getting the mein kampf treatment >Germinal's moral about the repulsing greed of capitalism being reforged about white blue collars stealing work opportunities from heckin minorities and being ungrateful chuds>Nana now is a book about empowering womenI can't wait for AI kikes to murder books with the blessing of indians.
>he fell for the ultra wide meme
>>723505783It already looked pretty shit, this just seals the deal. Nothing of value was lost
Did Sam Altman kill somebody? He seems capable of it.
>>723509781I'm tired of brown coded bots digging for info in the most unsubtle way
>>723505783kys tranny
PVZ is a dead franchise. Just bury it with Crash Bandicoot, Spyro, Conker, Cole McGrath, Sackboy and Sly Cooper already
>>723509496The distance between the house and the spawn is a core part of the balance, don't know how ultra-wide would could be backported to something like that without fundamentally rewriting that system.
>>723509192>provocative and intriguing modern twists on dusty old stories with next to not bearing on modern affairs... le badAnd this is why books are going the way of the dodo.
>>723507058they got too successful so EA consumed them. malicious acquisition
>>723510248Draw more of the house and the bushes.
>>723506984>full priced>$20???
>>723505783Bros this can't be happening. Not PvZ.
>>723510724ive given up on this franchise since the release of battle for neighborhood. its just jews parading something they didnt even makd originally
>>723506138I have 'fatigue' fatigue
>>723510693The original PvZ release in 2009 was 19.95
>>723510509We only have three shades of shitpost in the current dystopia: brain shattering baits so stupid you wish for an instant skullfuck surgery with a jackhammer, barely disguised threats, and misleading/muddying/slide posts. All jew coded.
>>723505783>plants vs zombiesDo not care>Ai upscalingDo not care>Fake concept artStill don't care but wow that is really fucking scummy. What's the fucking point?
>>723507058>not mentioning the absolute best gameIm learning 3d modeling to made my own insane aquarium cause no one else seems to care about this game
>>723511332Not so fast
>>723505783>>723505876>we finally get a new Popcap that isn't mobileshit >It's a lazy remaster of the first gameYup, that company is dead. All the original staff have already left>>723510196The big difference between these games and PVZ is that there's a strong community support for mods and fangamesIt's pretty much 2010s Sonic
i buy
why can't they even use one of the modern upscaling modelsit's all waifu2x and esrgan as far as the eye can see
>>723511525>that isn't mobileshitWell...
>>723511332I knew I was missing something! I even have it installed right now.
>>723509781He killed some Indian whistleblower from his company. He also molested his sister
>>723510152>>723510509
>>723510248make new levels.woah!
>>723512050>game ported from mobile to unityWhy tho?Did they lose the source code for PVZ PC version or what?
>>723506138kill yourself
And so, my "fuck remakes" mentality remains unchallenged since CTR Nitro Fueled. A shame too because the announcement of this game made me cautiously optimistic, seemed to be a straight upgrade with no bullshit changes.
>>723505783I genuinely can't even begin to fathom whether or not this or the Deus Ex: Become redeemed is the worse demake.I don't even believe my eyes anymore, is this all a simulation? Am I a science test subject in a lab?What's even scarier is that there are "P E O P L E" buying this shit.
>>723512630mobile was probably a newer, more modern codebase they were familiar with, rather than a 17 year old proprietary engine that hasn't been used in ages
>>723506138fuck off, tranny
>>723512630Because modern developers can only use Unity and Unreal.
>>723505783more like trans vs reality
>>723512050>downgrade animationsLITERALLY, HOW?
>>723509496kek this is hilarious
I might as well make my own "Garden Warfare" esque 3rd person shooter slop then.
>>723505783why would i care about this tranny shitim playing it
When was the last time EA made a good remaster/remake?
>>723505783Who do you side with? Jeets or Troons
Why are people still expecting shit from EA? Just play the original with the widescreen patch or just the original ratio.
>>7235141565 years ago
>>723514229I can fap to tranny porn, jeets are useless to me and far more annoying.
>>723512951>>723507923
>>723508364why are they like this
>>723508364I want to live in The Giver universe so I can live out that bath scene with the girl the MC had a crush on
>>723505783>20 dollars for an ai upscaled mobile port of pvzthis series lived and died with pvz1
>>723506138Ravish who said you could take a break from MS call center?
>>723514675Based
>>723505783>troon makes new mountain out of molehill to delay his inevitable suicidenews at 11
>>723515136>supporting EAslop to own the trannies
>>723515315>make fun of a trannysaarsaar you're ea support
>>723506138I love seeing them seethe, they literally can't do anything to stop it despite their constant crying for the last few years. Anti-AIfags eternally lost.
>>723506138i am just tired
@GORK IZ DIS TRU?
>>723506526Popcap Vancouver shut down after bfn flopped so unless they decide to open other studio the pvz shooters are dead. Most of the devs got moved to other ea studios or left the company.
So are there any good mods/fangames for pvz on PC?
>>723508364If it wasn't for the fact that they're all taking the piss and using this language solely to try and trick retards into buying into their companies I'd be jealous of them.That whimsical thought pattern of "what if thing, but really cool and idealised" is a beautiful thing when it isn't being crushed by the rational and obvious facts of life and tech and where they're up to.
>buying an ea remaster of a $1 pc game from 2009what?
>>723516035There’s pvz 2 Gardendless. It’s just base pvz2 ported over to pc. No leveling or microtransacrions and it has some of the Chinese pvz2 stuff ported over. Most pvz mods are either super hard pvz1 mods that are only in mandarin or pvz2 stuff that only runs on android or emulators.
>>723516035i saw theres a decompilation with fixes but theres no compiled versions to download so i dont know what to say about any of themhttps://github.com/Electr0Gunner/PvZ-Quality-of-the-Lawn-Decompilehttps://github.com/Electr0Gunner/PvZ-QotL-Widescreen
>>723509496>ultrawide support for a game inherently designed with a fixed number of tilesYou're as dumb as he is if this is your reason.
>>723517023>Android modsI fuckin hated playing Reflourished I swear, I remember making it all the way to Big Wave Beach and deleting it because of the sheer difficulty.
I never realized there were this many autists (non-pejorative) passionate about PvZ nowadays until OneyPlays played it, I honestly thought it had a reputation on par with Candy Crush.
>>723516035I. RULE is short but very polished roguelite crossover with Binding of IsaacMinecraft vs Zombies 2 is bigger than it sounds, worth a blind playthrough, there's a Gamemaker and a Unity version each with different content
>>723517495I think the problem was it was advertised with ultrawide support as a bonus.
>>723506138I only partially agree insofar as it being a boogeyman used as the end all be all of modern evils in business.The AI issue works hand in hand with the pajeetification of the business world, but the Indian aspect is the quiet part you don't say out loud in mainstream spaces.AIslop really does suck shit and I'd love to see it gone, but the world wouldn't noticeably improve if it poofed out of existence tomorrow with no other changes.
>>723506138You had retards having meltdowns over Pokémon having an AI team when AI in games is just another word for CPU characters. Apparently having characters not controlled by people at all is now unacceptable.
>>723517819I figured that too, the least EA could've done was add to the hand-drawn assets, but what the hell else would support have added?
>>723505783Nothing wrong with AI upscaling or Ai usage in general if it's not done by pajeet.I know almost 0 coding and work a lead programmer for last 4 years on many big projects that many of you probably use.It is in idea and ability to understand/check AI code, which I can.Pajeets cannot, they jave no ability to create a real idea
>>723514675I only recently found out there were sequels to this. I plan to check them out after I finish the next two books I'm working through.
Is AI upscaling bad?A lot of those PS2 to PS3 remasters used it at least a little. Okami heavily.
>>723514536exclusive on wallmart
>>723519376AI upscaling is only good when there's someone to oversee things and make sure the end result is goodWhich surprisingly is never
>>723509496mobile game tier
AIjeet won
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G18aikj2d9cWould you really still have confidence in any game if it had a trailer like this?
>>723523934The relentless negativity on every upload relating to this is killing me
Hey guys, piligos from /funkg/. i bring replanted for you guys! me. piligos. g-drive link, not sure if it works, some fuckers over twitter shared it and some ask for a "dummy unity exe"https://drive.google.com/file/d/1V4tMf-sLv8NwOMVyMWhQW-BddI_wqTMe/viewhere it is. i'm gonna pili my gos to the sunflower lol
I always find it odd when the creators and/or artists involved with the original development process are totally onboard with helping out for remasters if asked and companies just... don't even bother. This isn't some Star Wars tier captured fandom that will just buy up whatever slop you throw on their plate. It just reeks of bad management decisions.
>>723523934We must be crazier gardeners.
>>723524682What language is this post in
>>723524853>I always find it odd when the creators and/or artists involved with the original development process are totally onboard with helping out for remasters if asked and companies just... don't even bother.and it's not even like it's been 60 years like Star Wars.it's been 16 years? and it was a small team.
>>723524853Higher ups don't care. They just want to shit something out at such a cheap budget that it can barely sell and still make money.
>>723524853Corpos simply do not care Anon. NOBODY asked for a PVZ 1 remake. The original game looks absolutely amazing even on modern tech, PVZ fans wanted another shooter or a better PVZ 3.
>>723524979>a better PVZ 3it's called PvZ Fusion.
>>723505783kill yourself tranny, you radicalised me on AI
>>723525010I looked up PvZ Fusion and the first result was a Reddit post saying>thousands of you ran malware pretending to be the game, btw if you want the real link just join the discord, hope this helps
>>723525163yes because malware sites still flood google's first page with SEO abuse
>>723525163>>723525248https://github.com/Teyliu/PVZF-Translationthe github works as always
>>723524979>>723524968I know but it just frustrates me with how easy it would be from a business perspective to score brownie points with the fandom with just a small pivot in your approach to the product.
>>723524853He actually applied to work on the sequels too but was rejected.
>>723525163>redditor: erm just join my dicksword for the link lolWhy don't people upload files onto mediafire anymore? Why do I need to join your shitty server just to download a PVZ mod?
>>723519376zoomers think AI upscaling was invented along with chatgpt
>>723525385it's not even theirs, its made by chinks on bilibili and wherever else.the fags on discord just make the translation.
>>723525153THANK YOU SAAR! YOU DID THE NEEDFUL!>>723525447The AI upscaling here and used by most lazy remasters look like shit and deserve to riddiculed.
>>723509192>Le Compte de Monte Cristoimagine being such a pompous ass that you dont just write the count of monte cristo
>>723526041Yeah, what a Dumas.
>>723516035PvZ Fusion if you like the original PvZ
>>723526146
People whining and putting themselves on a cross OH SO BRAVELY DEFENDING AI have become just as annoying as AI itself.
>>723526447i'ts lame as fuck.
>You're either a tranny AI doomer or a pajeet AI gooberI JUST WANT TO HATE BOTH!
>>723508364>Feed IT to it>FBI knocks on my doorThanks Steven King
can someone modify the .exe of the replanted build and post it here? i wanna play it as much as i wanna play 17bucks lol
>>723526687You must choose a side.No, "I hate all sides" is not an acceptable answer. Now choose.
>>723505783Only faggots hate AI. If AI can make old games look better, that’s a win. Modders are already overhauling entire textures with AI.So why are you mad, faggots?
>>723527829Because Patreon/commission artists and "artists" were threatened by its existence, so they went on a never ending campaign to destroy the public image of AI and anyone/thing that uses it. This double benefits the established artists because any new or improving artists are immediately suspected of using AI and thus effectively removed from competition. You can't get away with openly making something with AI, even partially, without getting shunned and boycotted.
>>723515485AI is burning money at an alarming rate and is nowhere even remotely close to being profitable. The bubble will burst, soon and hard.
>>723505783AI upscaling won't be bad unless you're lazy fucks outsourcing to turd world pajeets >>723506984>we want some of those AI money you guys gave to nvidia/openAI
>>723527829>look betterBut it mostly looks like shit
>>723506138get back into the zip disquette, LLM huskI have dead internet fatigue
>>723519753who would've thought that the ability of the artistic director has always been the bottleneck, and offloading the grunt work to GenAI instead of employees who can actually potentially learn and develop naturally through mentorship and shared experience leads to dogshit aesthetic choices due to the director's actual workload increasingwe had NO IDEA this would happen!
>>723505783Meh, don't care, already pre ordered it
>>723525153Good, some fresh blood in the ai upscaling community can only be a good thing...
>>723506138DO NOT REDEEM THE GOOGLE PAY CARD VISAJEET
>>723505783Using AI to help in upscaling stuff is fine, that's one thing that it's extremely helpful with.>>723505876...But why the fuck would Remaster fake concept art? If there's none, just don't put any in!
>>723506138I can agree most of the time with these fatigue posts, but not this one.
>>723528953I hate ai upscaling because you simply cannot create visual fidelity where there is none. All you can do is blend it in a way that is half-palatable. I don't care WHAT leather jacket man says, it's not the same as a fully rendered image. The duck lies as well, no scaling is lossless
>>723528320AI Upscaling doesn’t look like shit. Image upscaler is actually more proven than DLSS, which like 90% of gamers are already using.
>>723506138>all these troons in the responses seething over someone going against their autistic antiAI crusadeNone of you niggers care about the environment, artists, whatever else you can come up with and you will be reduced to begging for pennies for your shitty art that you say you don't want to draw anyways because it makes you mad
>>723527829it's the new way for a company to make a worse product faster and cheaper a free emulator having an AI upscaling option to play legend of zelda 1998 in HD is okaya billion dollar company like EA reselling an old game by slapping an AI upscaling filter on it for easy money when hiring a real artist would've made a better looking product in every way isn't okay
>>723527829>If AI can make old games look better, that’s a win
>>723527829Why do old games "need" to look better? Why can't they just stand on their own visual merits with the context of the era they were created in?
>>723529582At least AI filters don’t completely fuck up the original art direction like most of those ‘modern remasters’ made by interns on UE 5.
>>723505783What I don't get is how funny people think they are about AI, thinking it is trans vs not trans.is this baby's first gaslight/ reverse psychology 101?
>>723527829>>723528134>>723529443>>723529561>>723529765THIS. AI upscaling doesn't look bad you bloody benchods!
>>723527543Enjoy your extended government shutdown.
>>723527829Every single AI upscaled old game I've seen looks horrendous, I literally stopped watching this one dude that played the classic RE's a lot because he filled them to the brim with awful AI mods.Its especially awful in RE2 with the blatant AI character portraits, and the ending screens are atrocious, Leon's head looks like it was ripped out of some HD thing and plastered over the PS1 image, and Sherry's legs are fused to the bike in Claire's ending screen.
>>723506436>ACK!
>>723529871Upscaling ur screenshot to see what the fuck went wrong.
>>723530405Just look at the seed packets, jeet.
>>723505783I have anti AND pro ai fatigue, I just want to stop hearing about it at this point. >>723509192>Blood Meridian but it's just a blank screen for entire chaptersNothing will ever beat the imagination unfortunately.
>>723506138I have anti-anti-AI tranny fatigue
>>723529379I'm personally working on an anti-dds artifact modeland it is really impressive what it is able to fixIt's not perfect (and probably won't be even when I'm done), but its ability to reconstruct info from shitty DDS compression is almost like magicBut will devs use this? Fuck no, they'll just extract the old textures, upscale them with waifu2x, and compress them again to create a smeared, yet blocky, shitpile
They should make another garden warfare instead and I'm dead serious.
>>723532378soul / soulless
>>723534536who would've thought soul can be created by saving an image with dxt1 compression
>>723534805I knew it all along.
>>723505876why the pink margins ?
>>723505783based fuck trannies
Is 20 dollars really that unreasonable for this game?
>>723528306why does this make you so angry? lol
>>723529561>REEEEEEEEEELMAO
>SAAR SAAAAAAR DO NOT REDEEEEM SAAAAAR MADAM SAAAAAAARIsn't PvZ huge in China, a country that also love AI?
>>723506138This post is brought to you by Big Tech. PLEASE use our AI slop!!
>>723507564>generate something locally>i am now multi million corporation
>>723536095It's just that simple. Our computers are also drinking all the water.
Why the fuck would you fake concept art?Why would you fucking aishart fake concept art?The entire point of concept art is getting to see in-production shit for studying.AI shart is literally negative value in a concept art position
>>72353548220 dollarinos gets you a fucking massive masterpiece metroidvania (silksong)PvZ should not be more than $1 or $2
>>723536414>The entire point of concept art is getting to see in-production shit for studying.That's not really true. It's a style of art showing off the concepts, fundamentally. It can come after the game or designs are created.
>>723536508Definitionally it can't you fucking retard.
>>723536565What do you call concept art that comes later then, just art? Something like OOT's art for example.
>>723536731Official or Production Art is probably the best term.
>>723536414from what I understand, it's not ai concept art, it's concept art from later titles, presented as if it was initial concept art from the first game
>>723506138well said the bloody benchods besmirch good tech sir
>>723528306two more weeks
>>723505783>AI
>>723506839>stop being transphobic and racistNo.
>>723528306"AI" isn't burning money they're building the infrastructure of the future and getting people hooked on it.>tons of nuclear facilities being built meaning energy will eventually be much cheaper in America and wherever else this is happening>tons of data centers being built meaning faster/better/cheaper internet and AI services for everyone online>tons of models are being trained meaning more and better AI applicationsLet's say it takes 10 years for the ground work to be done, at that point at least a billion people will be paying for AI stuff every month. Making the companies that spent a lot right now the new overlords of money. This bubble isn't popping because the technology is too useful and it's proven to work, there's also a shitload of room for it to grow and become more useful. It barely does anything useful right now and it's already got almost a billion using it. And most people don't even know how to use it, what to use it for, or that it even exists.
>>723540890>tons of nuclear facilities being builtThey aren't. Americans aren't capable of building anything anymore. At best they're restarting some old plants. The overwhelming majority of modern nuclear reactors come from CNNC and Rosatom.
>>723529561>>723506138WHY DID YOU REDEEM IT
>>723541136I've seen tons of news articles saying over half a dozen corporations are building them.
>>723541235They haven't started building shit. Westinghouse is cozying up to Trump to announce BIGLY NEW NUCLEAR SOON (in 2050) because last time they tried to build nuclear reactors they went bankrupt. They just want the idea of new power generation soon to exist in the media sphere to drive speculative AI evaluation for a bit longer since it's the biggest investment bubble in history.
>>723541408?https://www.reuters.com/business/energy/helion-energy-starts-construction-nuclear-fusion-plant-power-microsoft-data-2025-07-30/
>>723541591>fusion, not fission>He-3 aneutronic fusion at that>OpenAI>SoftbankScamming money must be so easy, I'm ashamed for not being as rich as I could have been.
>>723505783>Computer, generate fake concept art. Make it extra soulful, with shaky hand movement and smudged ink. Also generate a video of the developers working in a garage on CRT monitors and 90's keyboards. Upload it on social media with a motivational message about the value of the artistic human touch and never giving up or selling out your dreams. Yes, perfect.
>>723541591>a fusion energy startup-
Man remember when Windows Phones were a thing?
>>723513137Probably because most of it was originally rendered in Flash and that doesn't exist anymore/no modern dev would know how to work with it.
for this game you can buy 4 PvZ GOTY's
>>723529695
>>723543860bruh just use sothink decompilerAS3 was also so easy it's basically functional pseudocode
I'm starting to think /v/ might be getting a little too fixated on trannies nowadays.
I just wish they would make a new Zuma game.
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