Which factions do you think need a buff/nerf? Which ones do you like the most?
>>723563095Uninstall wizards.Also, buy an ad
I'm just here to say i was wrong about Temple they're good indeed.
>>723563095>I look at the Gorgon>I read Olden Erayou kidding
>>723563703I used a hero like that with Dungeon. The +1 attribute every other level is great, maybe even too good.As for temple, I'm on my first game with them, so a bit early to say, but so far their faction ability has been great. I just split the t1 unit into 1 unit stacks and use them to break counters. Free 30% hp and 10% damage buff for everyone, awesome stuff. I'm not sure how will I handle it once I get all 7 units though. Btw, does that ability work with summon spells as well? Like the avatar?
The castle towers seem extremely overtuned. I kind of like it, but realistically speaking this is just too much.
>>723564113I only tried it with mirror image but yes any friendly stack. More insane is the carapace shenanigans though.
>>723565042oh shit, that's ridiculous
every modern homm game has been dog shit
>>723564870yeah... that's definitely too much
>>723563095I keep building up an army only to get stomped immediately by the ai teams. The fuck is going on? I had like two lines of 100 Poison liches, 49 knights a few dogs and a set of skeletons.
>>723565359Yea Daylight+Arcane is so good on Temple.
>>723563095i really enjoyed the game.my only complaint is that the sound is missing or odd in some cases. like with some units attacks or buying creatures.
>>723563095The whole game needs to be forgotten.Btw all factions play the same so your retarded question is completely meaningless
>>723565721What difficulty? So far I feel like all the map templates they gave us in the demo are extremely packed with dwellings and towns. You really need to play aggressively with multiple heroes and try to capture them early, or you'll get overwhelmed.
Which HoMM game has the best campaigns? I suddenly have an urge to play a campaign and I've always played only skirmishes.
>>723566936>You really need to play aggressivelyOh... See, the thing is I was sitting in my base until I got an army size I wanted. It worked in Homm3 when I last played so I figured that tactic would work again.
>>723567019Base HoMM 4 has some of my favourites.
>>723567019Homm4 & 5
>>723563703That twink is made for Dungeon Medusa mommies
Dungeon seems the most powerful. They have no bad units, and their tier 2 and 3 alone can carry you through the game. Their faction ability is probably the weakest, but still alright.Schism is definitely #2. A lot of powerful shooters and some really good faction laws. I haven't really used the summoning they've got much, but their faction ability is incredibly good. Having bonus units on each stack minimalizes your losses over the course of the entire game, and lets you snowball nicely.Necropolis and Temple are both ok, but didn't feel as good.
>>723566067And one last thing.Some people were saying their faction ability isn't that good late game but it is precisely good there because you can defend your ranged stacks from melee attackers way more efficiently. When they kill your defender they'll have to use another unit to kill the ascended copy again.
>>723564870It is kind of stupid. Taking castles will require a significant army or good spells.
>>723565042Huh? What causes it to work on everyone?
>>723563095It looks like a fucking mobile game trying to emulate HoMM3
>>723568112I feel as though the AI doesn't really utilize it much though. I haven't really had any difficult sieges where I'd be the attacker.
>>7235670193 is the best. Gradual progressing with cities, gives a lot. A bit on the easy side, but no crazy AI cheating of 4.
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>>723568790It can also then transfer all the buffs to another stack for 1 focus point.its fun but I'm kinda sad they lost the resurrection ability from previous HOMM titles. I guess it would be too much if it could also resurrect on top of all of this, thankfully it still has the purity aura which invalidates negative effects for surrounding units
They'll nerf my favourite.They'll buff my most hated.
>>723569243What will be Hive's gimmick?
Is it just me or is Daylight magic just way better than the others? Bless, Riposte, Arina's Touch and Radiant Armour are all fantastic, and it even has the strongest damaging spell for some reason - Judgement.
>>723568072Thank you shill for your contribution but Olden Shart is bland and boring game. All factions play the same, I know it because I actually played the game.
>>723567883The dungeon stance ability isn't super powerful, but it is immediately useful and remains good throughout the game. It is also completely unconditional, unlike the other faction abilities. I think the people overlook how stupid powerful the schism summon ability is because of how easy it is to win against the ai. Just spend a moment imagining how bullshit it is going to be to have a final battle against human controlled schism. If you focus down any of their stacks, you will be punished hard. It is a more powerful version of the phoenix resurrection from 3. It's not meant to bolster your army in the early or mid game, it is a trump card for the final battle.
>>723569547For some reason Light magic even got Implosion (Judgement)
>>723569547All the magic schools seem really good, except maybe primal, but it has some good options too.
>>723563703does the game actually mean what it says and this guy is extremely XP gimped, or is this ESL
>>723569620>If you focus down any of their stacks, you will be punished hardTrue. But also there's a whole bunch of artifacts, abilities, laws that increase the summon amount, so I feel like it could also be used to snowball hard. Especially if combined with diplomacy.>>723569864>except maybe primalYeah, the ice Bolt is alright early on, and chain lightning is ok, though again, they're both mogged by Judgement. I guess the biggest adventage Primal has is that one level 5 spell that increases your damage done and taken and gives you double attack.
>>723570485I assume he gains 25% extra exp.
>>723570485"Gains 25%" = +25%
>>723570691Primal also has wean, which makes it a very strong secondary option. Cave in has its limits, but it can have a massive impact on a battle. It also gets both, anti-magic and armageddon.
>>723567019SPAZZ MATICUS, A YOUNG KING ON A MAD QUEST TO RULE THE WORLD
>>723571110True, I haven't tried the anti-magic + armaggedon combo yet. Temple spellcasters can get no mana cost spells and you can use this gimmick >>723568790 >>723569040 to get anti-magic on multiple units quickly. Then you get that skill that lets you cast 2 spells per round at an increased cost and just spam, could be powerful.
>>723563095Ascension should be replaced by something that is relevant more often. It's too early to say if anything is too good or bad, but ascension sure is boring.
>>723571376Temple might end up needing to run anti-magic just to stop the opponent from weaning.
What did the rift mean by this?
>Take -25% counterstrike damage>Take -20% range damageWhich one do you all usually pick?
>>723572609-ranged
>>723572609Range. Doesn't that also include those 2 hex melee attacks?I feel like you ought to avoid counterstrikes in general, either by using spells or weakening enemies with ranged to kill the entire or most of the stack with your melee attack.Then again, maybe if you've got mass twilight, ranged attacks aren't even a concern for you, and the counterstrikes would be more useful.
>>723572839I don't think it effects the long range attacks
>play a match>Oh shit blue walked up to base>Attempt to defend base>Oh shit nigger you lost even though you have a defensive position and a fuck ton of units and magicAuto battle functions shouldn't exist.
>>723574670Auto-resolve is shit at defending, yeah. Also it doesn't use magic by default, though I think you can change that somewhere in the options.It's very useful for speeding things up so that you don't have to clear evey single shitter neutral manually, but every serious fight ought to be fought yourself.
>>723574670You can always do it manually if you disagree with results. It speeds up map ricing by a lot.
Fair and balance.
>>723574670You don't have to accept the auto battle results.
>>723574996Yeah, fucked me up the first time. You just need to finish them off with the hero.
>>723575012>>723574946That's not what I'm complaining about. I'm complaining that the auto battle function is the first thing that shows up. CA figured this out a long time ago.
>>723574996It's nearest creature, not nearest friendly creature. You can easily set it up as a free attack on the opponent.
>>723575201>It's nearest creature>my 5k skellie archers looking at my liches 2 hexes away
>>723575159Why wouldn't the auto battle results show up first? The main point is to speed up the games after all.
>>723575528Maybe I'll personally decide if I want to use the auto battle function after looking at the enemy army? Songs of Conquest even got this right.
>>723576005But you can simply choose to fight yourself. I don't understand what's the issue. Auto-battling and then choosing not to accept results if you take loses is the fastest and most efficient way of handling combat.
>>723576545Yes you can, but why can't it be "here's the army, would you rather fight yourself or auto resolve"? Also the ai is too stupid to handle anything more complex so it automatically assumes you'll lose in the tougher fights. That's not something you want to see everytime you go up against a larger army dude.>you're going to curb stomp an army>Auto resolve still says you're gonna lose.The Auto Resolve is always wrong.
>>723577124>"here's the army, would you rather fight yourself or auto resolve"?But you can.
>>723577278then why is the auto resolve the first thing that automatically appears when a contestant shows up?
>>723577667To let you know how autoresolve went and asks you if you want to play the battle yourself.
>>723577760It's shit. the auto resolve should be a basic percentile on the side and leave you to determine whether you'd use it or not. Why are you defending it so fervently?
>>723578025>It's shitOh
>>723577760No Anon, I NEED to personally see the horde of pathetic t1 creatures facing down my massively snowballed army before I got the option to autoresolve. The fact that I can conveniently skip screen transitions and extra mouse clicks is a complete travesty!
>>723579952I see that now.
>>723563095I'm one of those cucks that cringe at older titles feeling unplayable. I liked the demo for this game though.Which of the other HoMM are worth checking out for me?
>>723580353Olden Era is 3 with extra features. Anyone who has played this demo already knows how to play 3. The HD version available on steam is bad, get the complete version on gog.
>>723580353HoMM 3 is the ultimate HoMM game. I don't think it feels aged, especially if you install the HD+ mod, but I've been playing it forever, so maybe my perspective is skewed.
The stacking meta turns the PVE into the easiest shit to get figured out to a point I got bored and uninstalled the demo, it's in a dire need for a rebalance . I played on hard, then apocalypitic and all I had to do was to give all units to a single hero while the other ones were just there to scrape resources around the map. You get a guaranteed town portal, flight and dimension door spells, to not mention that ridiculous skill that allow you to transfer ALL UNITS garrisoned in town to your hero so it's not even a challenge anymore.If you are playing necro, you also have the converter building to transform units from other faction into more undead, so by half of every game I was pressing auto on every battle without losing a single stack to even the strongest AI heroes and they don't have a chance of capturing a single town, since all you need to do is to portal then dimension door on their asses.The PVP mode is going to be 100% esports garbage.I did enjoyed the playeable heroes, but the whole game is braindead easy.
>>723581580>homm>esportslmao dude you have no idea what you're talking aboutl. HOMM-style games are not esports friendly and have never been popular.
>>723581580One big problem with difficulty is that it now also increases the size of neutral stacks, but doesn't boost the ai's ability to clear them. On harder difficulties the neutral stacks kick the ai players ass, resulting in them having smaller armies. Army stacking is still op on its own and i wish they would do something to make it a more risky strategy.
>>723581778I've played and collected HOMM games since the first one for DOS and it's beyond obvious those devs plan to turn it into esports garbage, the mobile UI is already a red herring.
>>723578025Then you'd never use it because losing a battle in Heroes means it's time to restart the map.>oh I have a 25% chance to lose all my shooters let me just choose that option!said fucking nobody ever
>>723582035whatever they plan to do or not is irrelevant, it will not succeed as an esport. The "general audience" doesn't want to watch two nerds doing a logistic-optimizer session on the same map for 3 hours for a 1-battle payoff that's decided by the second turn.
>>723581580>all I had to do was to give all units to a single hero while the other ones were just there to scrape resourcesI've had a different experience. There's a shitload of towns and dwellings in the currently available map tempates. You end up with like 12 towns or something like that. A single hero can't capture all the neutral towns fast enough, so the AI snowballs faster. I need at least two combat-capable heroes going around and actually fighting and conquering, while the others pick up scraps and ride around the dwellings each week.I do agree about the movement spells though. They're convenient, but also make strategy less important. I hope there are ways to disable them on maps in the future.
>>723582025Once I left my territory in my first run, I strolled around grabing a metric shit ton of free resources and exp while wondering if the AI had glitched and stopped playing, when in fact it wasn't trying to fight strong neutrals so everything was left untouched. This also explain why some enemy heroes got bloated numbers of stacks, some will simply never fight neutrals and lose numbers.
>>723581580I mean, that's how heroes have played in 3. Especially on Jebus Cross as it's the designated esports map.
>>723582541Using PvP templates for a PvE demo was a stupid choice. PvP maps need resource and town spam so that games end in one play session. I bet the ai is optimized to play on normal maps.
>>723563095I like Dungeon personally. Temple is pretty fun. I couldn't get into Necropolis that much (skeleton archers feel oddly weak). I can't wrap my mind around the schism.
>>723583106Schism plays in a very straightforward fashion. Just remember to keep communion stack high to mitigate troop losses. The summon skills are for turning the tables in big battles, not something you are meant to use constantly.
I'm playing at 125% and shit starts to get difficult. The AI comes packed with heavy artillery.
>>723585280Thanks for the bump
>>723563095is this launching in early access?
>>723572461You have to breed more tentacle monster somehow
>progress relies on a resource you can't minedropped
>>723574996This is why I eventually turn my skeletons archers into warriors
>>723581580This is more or less how HoMM games have always played. Except since dimension door and town portal weren't guaranteed, whoever didn't get them for some reason just straight up lost due to no control.Auto resolve has been a staple since HoMM5 and was even transferred over to HoMM3 with HotA.
>>723585685apparently so
thats a great marketing ploy ubisoft but all you have to do to sell HOMM is to make a good game and not cut corners.
>>723570932should say "gains +25%" or "gains 25% more"
>>723563095>back to original universe>they care about lore so much, they skipped inferno despite fan's demandAre we getting m&m1 remake next?
>>723585951>he can't mine artiesngmi
>>723585685what doesn't?
>>723581778>HOMM-style games are not esports friendly and have never been popular.Exactly. And yet, olden era looks very sport focused. All the things other anon listed are there just to balance competitive multiplayer, while majority of series' fans never touched online. They even added single-hero mode which is the most popular esport format for homm3
>>723588087The demo just uses PvP templates for the randomly generated maps. There will be classical scenarios in the actual game.
>>723580353HoMM1-3 campaigns. They all play basically the same.
Oh my fucking goooooooood there is so much fucking reading.I used to play HoMM 4 and 5 as a kid while barely understanding English so I was mostly just winging it and now that I'm actually trying to learn the game it feels so fucking overwhelming.
>>723589561Reading? Tutorials, I'm guessing? I just jumped right into the games, it's pretty straightforward if you had played 3 before.
>>723589561Gone are the days of>Angle look cool. It vreyy stron
>>723589730Yeah, I'm doing the tutorials right now. I meant to try the demo sooner but I've been busy.The last time I played one of these games was almost 20 years ago and as I said I never properly learnt them so I wanted to give it a proper go this time but I might just jump straight into it because I am NOT having fun with all this reading.>>723589787literally me as a kid
>>723589787Weren't archangels great on base homm3?
>>723590378Yes. But it's not like any one of us was comparing speed or health values and checking damage ranges as a kid.
>>723590493Ah yeah, absolutely. I just liked big angel dude because it was cool and free rez.
Fanboying over the angel in HOMM games as a little boy is a universal experience for everyone who played these games as a kid.
HOMM series isn't even strategy>unlimited monster stacks>whoever gets master haster or slow first winsno wonder this series is only played by eastern europeans what would you know about good tactics if you lost every war in your history
>>723590774I was salty that it was stronger than all the much cooler units.
Fug... How did CPU even get this fat? I don't think I even fought too badly (although still pretty bad) in this fight. He just came here with double my forces. If not my tactic, is my strategy wrong? Should I adopt a different build order? Expand more aggressively through tougher neutrals stacks? Or, the opposite, play safer so I wouldn't lose too many units?
>>723595178What week was this? Those ai numbers look like the result of grinding external dwellings.
>>723570485It would say "gains only 25% exp" if that were the case.
>>723595643I don't remember. But I don't think it's later than week 4 or so. I also witnessed the CPU using Shade Cloak on his fucking troglodytes, and it's infuriating. Seeing 400+ of those motherfuckers slowly crawling towards you, but unable to do anything.This is the default difficulty, so like 75% too. Shieeet.
>>723591067Makes me wonder why you're not pwning HoMM ladder.
>>723563095I haven't played yet. Are the factions cool?Have they commented whether we can we expect more as DLC?I checked them out and I saw there is no Academy, which kinda bums me out. Might still decide to buy it though. Sitting on the fence for now.pic unrelated
>>723572461Is she giving you a pie?
>>723595961You need to prioritize creature production and capturing new towns. Finance your builds with looted resources.
>>723596375She didn't grow those hips by sharing her food
>>723596316I'd say they're pretty cool.Now that the creature icons are zoomed in, I wish apotheosis had a beard, though.
Thaumaturgy feels like a must have on every hero. Double casting and 10% spell point recovery per day are just too good to miss. The Schism law that also gives 10% spell point recovery per day also feels a bit unfair.
what's a good build order for Necro and Dung?
Dungeon is the only faction that can't pull extra units out of their ass (necromancy, communion, ascension). Does that make them the weakest?
>>723596942>DungFocus on upgrading t2 and t3, their respective laws included.
>>723572461How can you please a woman who has her own set of giant ribbed dildoes attached?
>>723596875it's balanced because it disables itself if you quicksave
>>723563095I had a lot of fun with Schizos having 3 stacks of Fat bastards and 4 stacks of Chain mistresses. Sniping everything with web shenanigans and bopping everything that came even close. Absurdly broken. Then again everything is broken here. It's gonna be a fun single player experience but a pain to balance the multi-player for sure
>>723597256What?
>>723597552>Casts twilight
Is Temple just the best faction
>>723597787nopmeh speciality, only ok laws, shit t5
>>723567019Story wise? Homm 4.its basically a visual novelHomm3 and expansions are great.I personally loved HommV even if the story is shit because everyone that isn't Frieda and Isabelle is fun to be around. Be aware that Heroes V on Heroic is the hardest Homm single player experience by far ( not counting fan made campaigns)
>>723597692you lose access to thaurmaturgy if you save or load the game
>>723597552Yeah, it's hard to say what will be good when everything has bullshit potential. The strategy you were using would fall apart from mass casting twilight or optical illusion.
>>723597787dungeon > schism > necro > temple actually
Which spell level is Counterstrike? 2 or 3?
>>723596957dungeon can upgrade scrolls to max level fairly cheaply which can give a big early game bump I hate the dungeon special ability it fucking sucks both gameplay and audio-visual wise
>>7235670194 has Emilia+Solmyr and Gauldoth, it wins by default.
>>723598276>I hate the dungeon special ability it fucking sucks both gameplayWhy?
>>723563703>When leveling up, gains 1 additional attribute point(s) for every 2 hero levels.That's insane. +6 Attributes at level 10, +7 at 12 etc.On another note, why do they call Tactics, Offense etc. Secondary Skills when they renamed Primary Skills to Attributes?
>>723598327Not even that guy, but I'm guessing because there's no audio for activating a stance.But the worst of it is that if you go with the activation -> +1 stat until end of battle route, you'll have to manually remember to reactivate it each turn. Thankfully, if you don't, whichever you activate first remains from round to round until changed.Not very engaging either way.
>>723569040The other angel upgrade should simply be able to resurrect instead. And not liches
>>723598798>+1 statIt's 4 per level of the skill+12 on Expert
>>723598875I mean the subskill that gives lingering stats from each reactivation during battle.
>>723598079I didn't mean it for finalka. But it's great for creeping. And If you substitute 1 stack for Stinging rashots you can farm them by recycling trash units you get from boxes or external dwellings, at least in the 1 hero format
>>723598497Is that supposed to be impressive? I not sure what the stats calculation is, but wouldn't 10% basic attack + 1% per hero level and 1% melee damage per hero level be much better?
>>723599290+6 attack is like 15% extra damage. And then you get another +6 next level.
>Spend 1 hour pveing>Get one good fight against another player>If you win, the entire rest of the game is pointless cleanup until they consneed>If you lose, you now have no chance and just get pummeled until you consneedI don't get it, why shouldn't I just play arena if this is the classic gameplay loop?
>>723598964It's better to get a focus point so infiltrators can shoot their beam sooner.
>>723599532>my conventional army gets wiped>my second hero with max spellpower and 1 black dragon enters to finish the gameThe depth of the genre
>>723599532PvP does suck a bit if you aren't playing a scenario with friends. Arena PvP on the other hand looks like it's going to be a ton of fun.
>>72359789714 initiative to start off on the blue upgraded cavalier is nothing to scoff at.That practically guaranteed speed prio.
>>723599532youll get it once you get more maps to play on
The artstyle is starting to grow on me.
>>723598114I'd dare to say TaurenGaySexDungeon =necronpolis=MyLittlePonyRidersTemple=hentaiporn=nu-conflux (called by mistake sylvan) =budgetzergsBut at least they added kittenhorns and a lot of gay heroes so olden era super fans can self insert themselves into the game.
>>723600909The art style is whatever, it's not as ugly as homm5 but it's also more difficult to immediately tell what's going on, regardless graphics are for tourists
>>723567019>Which HoMM game has the best3
>>723599532This is a single-player, campaign-first genre. Sweaty PvP is soviet mental illness.
>>723600978HoMM5 art was far better than this, at least Nival devs didn't want to turn HoMM into warcraft.
>>723599793>1 guillotine ends your lifenice comeback plan
>>723599846schizo T7 gets 15 with a law despite being a fat fat
>>723602041And only the cavalier upgrade can even dream of competing with that when it comes to the Temple roster.
>>723601978and what exactly are you gonna cast it on?
>>723601978>+1 creatine gives the black dragon enough cum in his balls to survive and gives the hero enough time to cast 3 hours after taco bell toilet break on the entire enemy army.
>>723599793>Equips red orb of no first turn casting and shackles
Are the 5 specialization skills (blue/red shit) randomized in each game? I've played for 25 hours and I haven't been able to get 5 for the bonus.
>>723602294Pretty sure they're always the same.
>>723602294Pretty sure they're set in stone. But yeah it isn't easy to get your super class
>>723602294It's just that usually they include a skill or two that are more rare for the hero archetype to get.Magic skills are rarer for might heroes to get and vice versa.But they are always the same.
>>723602138myself for forgetting that spell immunity is brokenwtf i could have sworn that level 4s affected it
UBISOFT IS GUILTY OF A NUMBER OF CRIMES:1. Unfrozen discord child groomer and Russian draft dodger Denis Fedorov gets his hentai OCs "canonized" before Ubisoft sells this shit to Hooded Horse for a kickback, so Hooded Horse cuck CEO Tim Bender and his CCP bug hotwife can fully pivot to CCP funded gacha data farming the Asian market. I hope you like all your Heroes to be anime school girls. Sorry Slavs your time is done. Ubisoft was bailed out by Tencent. Heroes of Might and Magic? More like Heroes of Data Mining and Kompromat (hi Timmy Bender blackmailed by bugwife)2. Hooded Horse is running a shitty gaslight (aka lying) campaign to get discord troons to buy this shit. See: the cat thing with the dildo on its forehead. Kittendildo, soon to be a Funko Pop exclusive Q1 2026!3. They are begging you to call them faggots so they can blame this controlled demolition of the Might and Magic IP all on TOXIC COMMUNITY, in fact they already have. They are also literally shit eating faggots.4. Unfrozen is not a studio, it's an agglomeration of disposable temps. Unfrozen CEO Denis Federov should be dying in Ukraine for Russia instead of commissioning tentacle rape porn OCs in troon color schemes.5. Ubisoft never changes even if their fist is up Hooded Horse's ass for now. If you aren't old enough to understand how awful Ubisoft is, then you were probably molested by their employees on various discord servers. If you find yourself defending Ubisoft without financial compensation, please seek professional help immediately.6. Ubisoft is now a Tencent/CCP subsidiary.
>>723601945It's a hotseat co-op first genre actually
>>723602754people don't interact irl anymore
>>723602754>I want to play as the cool Castle guys this time
Ylwari is the cutest
when does this come out? I try to avoid early access
>>723605040Only after early access, which comes after the current demo.It's a while off.
>>723602987>no prob lil bro, I'll just pick these skelly guys they're pretty weak
>>723571375MONGO...GREAT BARBARIAN FROM THE NORTH SEEKING TO CONQUER NEW LANDS FOR HIS KINGDOM https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c6MCjp4FyME
>>723567019
Schism is my favorite faction now.
Imagine unironically posting screenshots of victories over AI.
>>723588431>There will be classical scenarios in the actual game.Not sure if I want to try scenarios made by people who made this
>>723563095necromancy is incredibly broken as expected
Whats the best faction to play if I just want to zerg people with huge stacks of t1 unitsI'm torn between Dungeon because Trogs feel like they'll get more surface area with their ranged alt attack and Schism because jellyfish stacks multiplying when other jellyfish stacks go down
>>723610020Naturally Necropolis.
>>723610086>Ranged/Melee upgradeable skellingtons AND units that summon T1 skellingtonsSOLD
>>723610150I doubt it's going to persist past the demo, but you can maximize skeleton farm by having a stack of each form in your army: basic, ranged and warrior.Each stack will get separate increases.
>>723563095Dungeon kinda underwhelming.Dragons doing no damage.
I'm curious.. would the demo help me get a good idea on how to play HoMM3 or nah?
>>723610302I've never played HoMM3 but other than a general gameplay flow idea I can't imagine it being helpful. Just fucking go pirate it dude.
>>723610302Probably.The main difference aside from any additional features is that OE doesn't have two hex sized large creatures.
>>723610351yeah it's about 80% the same game as 3
>>723601963Yea, they turned it into warhammer
>>7236019635 was literally warcraft>>723610685and warcraft is warhammer
>>723563095>Humans>Dead Humans>Elves>Dark elves>AIDS elves>Zergs but with fire instead of acidthe only good faction is necro and even then it looks silly as fuck with the phoneshit graphics and UI, they could just remaster 5 or some shit
>>723610758>and warcraft is warhammerNah, Warcraft is way too gay and capeshit to be warhammer.
>>723597783>he doesn't know AI actually cast twilight in some of my games but there's always a counter for that.
>>723611207It never had the grit that WH has, but it wasn't always the gay & lame shit it is today either.
>>723583009Except OE have shitton of trash objects on the map, which is crucial for timings on Jebus.And map in general is very hard to read.
>>723610020just skellies and maybe liches (to minimize troop bleed)5k skellies early 2nd month ez
>>723611508But you still cannot point out anything from WC in HoMM V which wasn't in WH, except of cut-scenes made on in-game engine (they certainly were inspired by WC3 cut-scenes).
>>723611461Nu-uh. My spellpower raises the duration to 14 rounds. Check mate, CHUD.
>>723599793In homm3 I exclusively played against 7 computers.And I agree, 1v1 is pretty boring. It's just snowballing until the end with no catch up mechanics.
>>723597787They're all pretty busted in their own way in PVE tbqh but we'll know for sure when multiplayer comes out.Once temple gets rolling and has enough tools like high level arcane/daylight magic with cascade and ridiculous buffs then its really hard to stop them considering purity aura can cover both of their ranged from debuffs etc . Getting to that point and not getting rushed is the issue imo which will also depend on the map size. So my opinion is like this on larger maps:Temple=Necro>Dungeon=SchizoOn smaller maps:Dungeon=Schizo>Temple>>>NecroAlso I wonder if they'll add war machines in the actual release.
Temple depends on 1 stacking
>>723613349I'm pretty sure heroic strike is the stand in for the ballista. If you get all the possible boosts for it, swashbuckler etc. it can be pretty effective. Not HoMM5 triple ballista effective, but effective nonetheless.In general many of the focus abilities seem like stand ins for war machines. Like necro eternal servitude, which isn't all that, but in the hands of that dread knight specialist, for instance, the ability to raise any one of your knights should one fall makes the early game pretty easy as far as protecting your skeleton archer stack goes. Not to mention the loads of focus 2-3 dread knights can generate with double strikes.Kinda falls by the wayside once you get your liches, though.I would like to see actual war machines.
>>723611761I played shamrock 200% difficulty and had to savescum a lot because both of the enemy factions went after me immidiately.Had to pull out a lot of cheese to take them both down. Still it was satisfying.
>>723596957You can still get 10%bonus units from the defence skill, or 20% if you combine it with diplomacy. But Dungeon just has fantastic units all around and to me it feels like the strongest faction. >>723597552Yeah, this fat bastards are ridiculously good. Schism in general is pretty powerful. >>723602294I don’t know how I feel about the subclasses. The bonuses are very powerful, but the skills you need to get them are usually suboptimal, and it’s not uncommon to get like 4 of them and then just get unlucky and never get the last one. So you end up getting mediocre skills and then no reward purely due to being unlucky.
>Temple faction ability is totally useless once you get a full army
>>723615458Works on summons. And it might be a good idea to split your army between two main heroes to capture things quicker, in which case you might just give each hero different unit tier and leave some free slots.
>>7235670194, no question about it, always loved the one about a peasant girl becoming a queen and founding a nation
>>723615695Thanks you community manager
why can't I build multiple of a given building to increase the number of weekly units I can makeI feel like I want to build more units than this game wants me to be able to
>>723616606If you have a second town, you can.Map template or scenario imposed limits on production are a given.
>>723616790Thank you community manager
Damn I underestimated how much damage and hp upgrades help low tier units>Basic skellingtons deal 1-3 damage>Damage tree increases it by +1, +2 if you also know Nightshade magic>There's an item to increase it by another +1>There's hp upgrades to basically increase their hp by 33%This feels kinda legit
I still like 5 more to be desu.
>>723620018So far I think this one could be better, but I did like how unique the faction abilities felt in V. They were genuinely significant, while here they seem fairly minor. They are useful of course, but they work somewhat passively and do not actually change the way you play. I hope they can somehow rebalance things to make those abilities feel better.
I don't know if I could ever play Temple without expert arcane magic.Carapace multibuffing and the occasional rewind life seem essential for a smooth, lossless early to mid game.
There's no way this guy makes it into the live game, right?
>>723621295>Casts >>723611461
>>723621373the game is about killing neutral stacks without losses, the pvp part is very minor
>>723621673Many ways to do that.Marl's speciality's just one of them, and it specifically can't save the player from shooters.
>>723621295The heroes that modifies spells are my favorite due to how broken some of them are>Arina's Chosen (unit has double action)>Umbral Grip (+100% damage)>Rewind Life (can rewind above total, they don't stay but it's real good at preventing combat losses)
>>723621295>places all of her melee army near the mid field>has innate initiative bonus +3 or +4 or higher on ALL units>roflstomps you with every single unit before you even get a turnThis bitch is even more busted. Don't care about your mass slow if I've already killed your army.
>>723597787They got big booty snow bunnies so yeah
>>723621295>>723621979I like a lot of the hero specialities, they all seem pretty significant. I basically never took the creature specialists in 3, but even they are very good now. The master spells are really cool, but I don’t really like that there’s an artifact that just gives you all master versions of spells, basically rendering them redundant if you’re playing larger maps.
>>723577124>"here's the army, would you rather fight yourself or auto resolve"?That's literally what it's doing you fucking mentally deficient half brained chimp. It just shows you the auto-resolve results during the choice so you can make a more informed decision to either go with auto-resolve or manually fight the battle yourself.
>>723622327it's different from homm3 so it's bad
It seems to me that whether a faction is strong or not is almost entirely dependent on whether they have good T1/T2/T3 units for breezing through the early game with minimal loss. If we look alone at the T1/T2/T3 early game situation the ranking is Dungeon > Schism > Necro > Temple and coincidentally it's their ranking overall. The Dungeon situation is particularly broken, all you have to do is upgrade one unit (T2) and then all three can deal damage without retaliation.
>>723581580Stacking is literally the only way these games are meant to be played you masssive retard. Split army = casualty = no snowball
>>723623547Hive?
200 is way too easy and boring now
Its way too easy to cheese the demo with Op stuff. >>723623547You can also just pick the hydra hero with dungeon and you can auto battle without losses at start even at 200% difficultly
I've not looked at pvp yet. Is this game gonna have stuff like 3v3?
>>723624050You should be able to do 3v3. The way it used to work, you had a number of players and a number of teams. By default the latter is equal to the former, meaning free for all wafare. But you could toggle the player (or AI) teams to match, and create various group scenarios. Like 3v3, 4v2, or 2v1v1v1v1 etc.
>>723624050a 2-4 week long 1v1 pvp game already takes an hour
>>723623547Dungeon is fantastic, but Temple also has good t1-3 units, probably second best. Very tanky t1 with decreased ranged damage and protection for allies, fantastic no range penalty or double shot crossbowmen and griffins, which are a pretty solid all rounder.
>>723624050If it’s going to be anything like the previous games (it almost certainly is), then you’ll be able to play with up to 8 players in any team configuration you want. So yeah, 3v3 are certainly going to be possible.
>>723624374Thank you community manager
>>723624374I really like templar, but I feel like their t6 unit is quite weak compared to the other factions. They always feel really "meh".They should also do so the priests (t4 unit?) buff doesn't take a turn to use and they would be great.
>>723563095i HATE the mobile game aesthetic
>>723624680Yeah, I agree desu. The t6 are quite tanky, but don’t really feel very useful.
>>723624680>>723625343Buy an ad
>>723625343Defensive, stay at home stack.
The game needs better ai. On apocalyptic, the ai should be cheesing you with 1-stacks and using spells in the most cancerous way possible.
>>723625843You can't really cheese a player with 1 stacks.Even the AI would, and often does, just ignore them if they weren't forced to come to you.
>>723625843I haven’t played at 200% yet, but the AI seems to play pretty much the same way between 100 and 175%. They just end up with larger armies, I’m guessing due to some economy buffs they get. Haven’t noticed behaviour differences.
I don't hate the aesthetics of the game but HoMM 5 Dungeon is still peak and nothing comes even close to it.>dragon>hydra>two sexy bitches>a badass minotaurAnd the two lamer units are decently cool too.
>>723626508Homm 5 had better art direction all around.
>>723626508These bitches wish they had the hips concubus has
>>723563095You asume I've played this garbage, you are wrong.
>>723626508That's the worst looking hydra i have ever seen
>>723608669>: 17606290499340.png>meanwhile 19 yo gamehttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wrp1hEtU0ys
>>723626508Olden Era really suffers from the art style and some really poor units choices.Necropolis is the worst victim>Skeletons - Great>Wights - Crap lantern not even utilised>Dogs - Very Meh>Grave Robbers - Great>Liches - Catastrophically aura mogged by the HOMM V version>Dread knights - Lame as fuck design>Vampires - The worst tier 7 choice in the entire game, don't even turn into bats or teleport. I cannot stress how stupid this was.
>>723627906The loading screen dread knight looks so much better than the actual unit
>>723626508Yeah, visually speaking, that game is by far the best of the series. I don't even know why it got a negative reception.
Heroes of Rape and Sodomy: AIDS Erahttps://www.gamesindustry.biz/three-ubisoft-former-execs-found-guilty-of-sexual-and-psychological-harassment-given-suspended-sentencesFormer Ubisoft execs Thomas François, Serge Hascoët, and Guillaume Patrux have been given suspended prison sentences for sexual and psychological harassment.As reported by The Guardian, the trial – which began in June – saw an "overwhelming" amount of evidence of harassment against Ubisoft employees from the three former executives.During the trial, employees described the company's offices in Montreuil, Paris as being run "with a toxic culture of bullying and sexism".François, former vice president of editorial and creative services, received a three-year suspended sentence and fined €30,000 for sexual harassment, psychological harassment, and "an attempted sexual assault". He left Ubisoft in August 2020 following allegations of sexual misconduct.Former CCO Hascoët was found guilty of psychological harassment and "complicity in sexual harassment". He was given an 18-month suspended sentence and fined €45,000. Hascoët, who oversaw Ubisoft's editorial team, resigned in July 2020 following a number of accusations.Former game designer Patrux received a 12-month suspended sentence and fined €10,000 for psychological harassment.As reported by France24, lawyer for the civil parties affected Maude Beckers described the ruling as "a very good decision today, and for the future"."For all companies, it means that when there is toxic management, managers must be held accountable and employers can no longer let it slide."François, Hascoët, and Patrux were arrested by French police in 2023 – along with two other employees – following a year-long investigation. All three former executives denied the charges.
Ubibased
>>723626508Olden era is just downgrade in every way. Even coomer baits were better back then and Olden Era is made literally by discord groomers, lol.
>>723626508Really? I hate the visuals of HoMM V, the worst looking heroes game of them all. And Dungeon is especially bad, since they’ve just turned them into generic Warhammer shit instead of the mythological creatures of 3, or even just the warlock dark magical creatures of the previous ones.
>>723629374Ubi et Orbi
>>723626508>HoMM 5 DungeonPleaseHoMM 3 Dungeon- classic D&D5 Dungeon- BDSM elves
>>723629968>>723630138Here come the subhuman zoomer contrarian who just HAS to ragebait and the tranny.
>>723630138yeah and?
>>723629374>former exec>left in 2020 during the metoo bullshit>nothing done about it beforeyeah so the employees in question did that in early 2000s, they all consented to suck dick to get easy promotions and now that the guys are worthless they sue them for extra cash because the new execs are all womens or jeets.this is so common it's almost standard, remember kids, never sleep with a coworker, you don't eat and shit in the same place.
>>723630284Kinohttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SVx_ZD8eoYEWhat went so wrong? H6 had more budget than H5 but they STILL couldn't do animated town screens or get half the things H5 got right
>>723631354Sylvanhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IulxW1pCbEM&list=RDIulxW1pCbEM&start_radio=1
>>723597897>meh speciality, only ok laws, shit t5Get angels quick and abuse their speciality to have single target spells cast on every unit. Another anon mentioned using it to put anti-magic on all of your units and then spamming Armageddon.
>>723598240I can't tell you because they renamed every fucking spell. Counterstrike is called Riposte, but if you get it from a spell scroll, the spell scroll will call it Parry instead. It's like just before the demo they opened up a thesaurus to see if they can find a more random name for every spell, when "Slow" would've worked fine.Fun fact, Heroes 3 did the opposite, they made many units and spells have simpler names. For ex. Haste used to be called "Tail Wind", Slow used to be "Muck And Mire", and Implosion was "Decay" (which explains the animations and school affinities a lot more).
>>723631947>"Decay" (which explains the animations and school affinities a lot more).That makes sense but where did you get this info?
What will be their gimmick?
>>723600978I just want creatures to be better sized. Everything is the same sized, a tier 7 unit is barely larger than a tier 1. Plus the battle map is small as shit, 13 speed gets you across the entire thing diagonally, you can't do any tactic whatsoever that relies on speed difference unless you are fighting a single Graverobber and put Slow on it.I remember back in Heroes 3, fighting a large stack of Behemoths while defending a siege, and casting slow on it for like 50 turns, running around on the map until the castle towers finally nailed the thing.
>>723632153>shooters with parry ability
>>723627280Heroes V had so fucking good town screens.dat HDR sun
>>723627906>>Liches - Catastrophically aura mogged by the HOMM V versionThe lack of death cloud sucks, but you have two things in return: they are no longer the only ranged unit (Skeleton Archers), and the Blood Liches can cast an extremely powerful resurrect spell that scales with the amount of liches. Also their attacks heal every unit, just because.
>>723632036>That makes sense but where did you get this info?From leaked beta build.https://tcrf.net/Heroes_of_Might_and_Magic_III:_The_Restoration_of_Erathia_(Dreamcast)Lot of stuff got renamed:Treefolk -> Dendroid GuardBriar Treefolk -> Dendroid Soldier Caliph -> Master Genie Order of Pain -> Order of FireEternal Effigy -> Deity of FireKing of Terror -> Soul PrisonRiver of Blood -> Guardian of EarthStone Wall -> Force Field (even the icon still has some stones on it)Sacred Breath -> Destroy Undead
Where are the dwarves/fortress? Where is Academy/Tower? (is Schizo really a replacement? doesn't really seem like it) Where are the orcs/stronghold?Maybe DLC material?
Which town has the most sluts?
>>723565721You are not leveraging Necromancy. Necro units suck ass but that is because they can easily get a week's worth of stacks in a few fights against large enemy stacks. Also Blood Liches > Poison ones.>>723569445Hive seems to get bonuses if you keep your stacks together. Hope one of those bonuses buffs their resistance/defense heavily otherwise AoE is gonna ruin their gameplan.
>>723627906It's difficult to argue any of these. I was going to say something about the liches not looking bad but I googled the V one as a reminder and holy fuck. Olden era liches got shat on.
>>723633586Honestly, all the designs from HOMMV onwards sucked ass. They turned the game into Heroes of World of Warcraft.
>>723630284>hot dark elf sluts with whipsyep, that's the stuff. also loved annihilating stacks with lucky empowered slipper implosions. god, the animation for implosion was pure sex.
>>723634103Seeing how the units, hero portraits, UI and general art direction looks it's a miracle the overwlord looks as decent as it does.
>>723602526>CEO is using game money to fund tentacle pornDamn now I HAVE to support the studio...
>>723626508I liked faction specific mechanics the most yeah it limited your playstyle a bit but boy was it fun.
>>723634515
>>723630138>BDSM elvesYou say it like it's a bad thing>>723630284Exactly
>>723634203The adventure map looks decent because they copied most of it from Heroes 3. The new/original buildings and towns all look like crap, or have weird dimensions. Like the Dragon Utopia is way too small while some like the research lab (that houses skeleton dragon hydras) is super big.Speaking of which did anybody get to build the Lich Dragons yet? Maybe try the Chimeratologist to combine dragons and hydras?
I think the game looks pretty good, except for some hive units.
optimal build orders?
>>723636115Maximizing unit production is always optimal if you can afford it.
I never know when it's the right moment to build economy buildings
>>723636115metafag maps like jebus cross are very rich so you always spam out heroes and rush big unitssomething like fair n square you might consider gold first
constant shill unorganic threads, game utterly mogged by 20yo h5 in every single way
>>723636897>I THINK OLDEN ERA LOOKS GREAT>can't ever articulate what looks great>says nothing else>posts it a dozen times to keep this sad ad going
>>723636897counterpoint: loading times
>WOW THE ART IS REALLY STARTING TO GROW ON ME>DID YOU KNOW SKILL GIVES YOU +5% TO THIS AND -5% TO THAT?>buys a million wishlists>replies to self on /v/
>>723636897coolshow me which building does anything?
>>723634695>You say it like it's a bad thingOver classic D&D? Absolutely.
>>723632854I bet there will be expansions with new factions as per usual. Tower was always one of my favourites, so I hope they add them. Schism has the ice terrain, but I like the HoMM 2/5 desert style, too.
>>723636992>>723637115>proceeds to bump you're thread for 10 hours straight posting the same cyclic shitposts over and overnothing personnel kid
>making gay schizo claims about his mobile game ad with zero organic engagement in hopes of creating organic engagement>zero results after a week of running ads for a single player mobile game demo
>>723637840hey, thanks for the bump :)
>>723596375Oh boy! What flavour?
>>723563095I like Dungeon and Schism the most. Temple is the only one i don't like playing as.
kek, this retardditor contrarian is literally pissing+shitting his pants as we speak, you can actually pinpoint the moment he started his meltieEmbarrassing to even look at lolmaoYeah, I think I will try the game now
>>723638951Breast milk yoghurt flavored.
>>723639330He has been melting down since the game was announced.
>>723637467u can clearly see since game has actual UI
>>723640131>e since game has actual UI
>>723599532And almost every PvP will end after the defeat of the main hero, all sweaters know that it's pointless, it's easier to surrender and start a next one. Only a very minority of players would try to comeback.
>>7235635921 million wishlist=10000 euro (probably 8k if you negotiate right)
>>723640348That's why the one hero mode ends after defeating the enemy hero without capping all his towns.Pooh is retarded.
seething trannies cannot replicate this
>>723636897ive been starved for new heroes game for a long time after all last release was october 2007. its also in jadame and im huge might and magic fan and want to know what will they do with the plot. more than heroes so you can suck my dick, faggot. im in every thread always posting with others that actually want to check out the game.
>called a dancer>looks nothing like a dancer>doesn't even show any skinI'm not saying the game is woke because it clearly isn't completely devoid of sex appeal but this character needs to be made sexier.
>>723640708What do dancers look like?
>>723640697>want to know what will they do with the plot.spoiler alert ruin it with a bunch of discord faggot shit
>>723640905theres not a single homo thing but keep seething mentaly ill retard. show me proof of one single fagshit. be it hero unit/item description whatever im waiting
>>723636840>>723636115Depends on the resources available and the faction. Generally I want to get some basic units first, and once I’ve got enough to conquer neutrals around, I just leave to explore and focus on the economy in my town.
>>723641272-tranny flag kittendildo-tentacle porn tranny gooner in tranny flag colors-Zenith's manipulative gay discord groomer brother, "Bottom"-all the other fag heroes (gay liches, theater kids, twinks, infested bugchasers) that look straight out notorious LGBTP game League of Legends
>>723640875Like this.
>>723640708>Dancer is fully clothed>The priestess has a big uncovered bubble buttMaybe they suffer from some kind of dyslexia.
>>723640708Most of the characters looks extremely mediocre, bland, boring and forgettable. Like any fantazy slop, this dancer could a character from Dragon Age.Still at least it's not as bad as characters from new Disciples series.
>>723641272>>723641629>furry pedophiles are your marketers for this game
>>723641630Well.you know those "in soviet russia everything is backwards" jokes? Yeah...
>>723631354My man, 6 didn't even had town screens on release
I don't even read what heroes do, I just play as hottest bitch faction hasrate
>>7236419686 and 7 seem like fever dreams.
>>723642091Honestly all specialisations seem solid, I haven’t seen any “shit” heroes. So I’d say you’ve got the right approach
>>723641614i asked for descrption that says it you deluded freak. otherwise everything i dont like is a tranny/fag propaganda because i say so. you are as fucked up in the head as all the trannies you screech about and should follow their advice in killing yourself
>le anti-shill predittor absolutely fuming>check game>skimpy chickslmaoPicked up.
you must like my lower than h5 pixel rate from 20 years back 3d sloppa or else you are a shill also you must like my ai generated hejro portraitslol + kys
>>723643108I hope the game gets popular and there is a lot of art of the monster girls.
>>723642810>asked for one example>got four (including Nadir's hero description)>moves goalpostExtremely homosexual behaviour in defense of an LGBT single player mobile game demo published by UBISHIT
>>723643316more like: if you like the game you are a shill. nah scratch that. if you discuss a game you are a shill - /v/
>>723643576it's a turn based strategy game it won't be popular
>>723643108>tranny gooner unit cuts his dick off for "the abyss">still has GIANT MAN FEETlol tragic
>>723643690not one example had text to prove me wrong retard. nowhere in the Nadirs description does it say that he is gay, retard. as for the colors. lmao neck yourself. trully mindbroken
HOMM 4 mogs
>>723643576the only thing that I care is whether or not the game is good, popularity won't account in the fun I'll have playing
>>723643108>tfw you can't think straight because your fucking brains are imbued in your tentacles.100 bucks say they suck at poker.
>>723633586the homm V lich melee attack is truly the slickest shit
>>723643956i agree. im also always looking for more people to play with. interested?
>>723640708Looks like M&M8 dark elf
>faggot still sperging outAnyway, why are vampire waifus like this? yjk
>>723645123They're a bit batty.
>>723637671lol eunuch
>>723645123She looks like she just got trolled.
>>723642348Some heroes are definitely shit tier. Especially those with masterful spells that get a stupid bonus.>Tellaris the Betrayed>Starts with the spell "Masterful Early Start", which is like Early Start except it can't be dispelledHow often this spell gonna get dispelled and it makes you go awww naw? This has legit less than 0.1% chance to happen in a full game, when you fight enemy heroes you're casting shit like twilight or barrier or mirror image not a basic initiative buff. Tellaris The Betrayed? Yeah the devs betrayed that guy alright.
>>723645539>Yeah the devs betrayed that guy alright.the devs make mobile game clones of already successful games, what did you expect?
>>723645539That looks like an awful skill. Does he at least get initiative bonus with each level on enchanted units or something? You could argue there'd be some value in that.
>read Iratus reviews on Metacritic>a lot of 9s from accounts that only reviewed Iratus>muh wishlistslmfao it rhymes
This schizoid appeared surprisingly late (probably was sucking dick too much), we even had more or less civilized thread which hasn't died even without his bumping
>read Iratus reviews on metacritic>read the real reviews>"dark unreadable black/brown/gray" messhow do they do it?
>>723646202>I don't suck dick you suck dickSir you are on a discord filled with faggots and furries trying to sell a scam to /v/
>>723641614>-tranny flag kittendildo There's no tranny flag, and it's a horn, you porn obsessed freak>-tentacle porn tranny gooner in tranny flag colors There's no tranny colors, no tentacle porn and hero isn't confirmed to be trannoid or gooner>-Zenith's manipulative gay discord groomer brother, "Bottom" What? Anyway, stop using discord and bringing discord drama since it doesn't involve game in any way>-all the other fag heroes (gay liches, theater kids, twinks, infested bugchasers) that look straight out notorious LGBTP game League of LegendsNot a single confirmed tranny, gay and other lgbtshit hero or unit.
>>723645123Cute vampire but>Undead PetsThis bothers me. Someone somewhere sat down and seriously pondered how to design a cool necromancer army and they wrote down "undead pets" instead of bone wolf or hell hound or whatever. How?
>>723646734Maybe they add summonable bat swarm. Ha-ha. Or some neutral units.
>>723646096>>723646283Unfrozensissies, our response????
>each faction has just a bit of titty sprinkled in>no actual titty factionI should report this bug. Priestesses dress like they belong in an RPG Maker game tagged with free_use btw.
>>723646734>Olden Era> cool necromancer armypick one
The best waifu from Temple, Necropolis, Schism and Dungeon respectively.
I like the schizo, it adds a nice ambience to the threads. Like village idiots of old.
>>723647412the medusa stacy is cute
>>723647412>can't make a real video game>have to try and sell weird shit to discord gooners
>>723647412Dork Elf
>>723647542It's even worse according to insiders.
why does this game look like it belongs on my tablet
>>723647690Because when Russia attacked Ukraine plenty of Riot and Blizzard outsourcers from Russia ended up in Unfrozen.
>>723647083if you go deeper into the reviews, another Unfrozen trademark is apparently "terrible UI"
>>723647793holy shit hope they get drafted and stop making games
>>723647690because the developer only made one game. It was a Darkest Dungeon mobile clone. If you take away the reviews the developer/publisher paid for, it might have even been a solid 5/10.
UI looks like shitbattle screen and units look like shitmap is fucking unreadablevery cool game nigs
>>723647457There are two medusae but I assume you mean the one with the hydra? She has nice expression. Mildly angry and pouting.>"why are these bitches not dead yet? keep attacking, just throw all the snakes at them"
I only ever played V, how does this hold up in comparison?
>>723647989>I have nothing to say about the game I'm advertising: the post
>>723563095>as we work on our Early Access releaseWhy can't they just release it when it's done?
>>723648045looks and plays worse, just try h3 HOTA instead
>>723647989You forgot Ylwari, the poster girl for the series. You can see her in the op image.
>>723648051I think the game is rather mid and I'm not going to buy it. It's mildly distracting as a free demo but as a product it has flaws too bit to ignore. It clearly wasn't made by real fans of the franchise and it shows. But here I just want to discuss the cute girl portrays, that's okay with you boss?>forgot one of the medusaeShit. You know what, all of the medusae are top girls. Snek OP.
>>723648052Financial reasons i assume.
>>723641629>looks nothing like a dancer either>doesn't show any skin eitherwhat did he mean by this
>>723647412Dungeon and Schism mog, they have more choices.>how do you do fellow channers, aren't those gooner games yucky?lmaoGo back faggot.
>>723647986i agreedisagreedisagree. just need to play enough like with any other game or with open eyes
723648749good opinionshit opinionshit opiniondont reply to me ever again retard
>>723648749>you just need to waste time playing an unplayable game to really appreciate itNOT HOW SALES WORK
>>723648052That's how now it works. They are working on a product and it's clearly not the hot shit they were hoping and the investors are noticing. So they release a demo and then they write fake internet reviews and pay influencers to say this game is great and then they select only the positive crap and show it to investors during next board meeting and then they get more funds. When they release the game they don't care if it flops. They still got paid working on it.
>>723648749>i agreeYeah no shit shill
>>723648871>That's how now it works. They are working on a product and it's clearly not the hot shit they were hoping and the investors are noticing. So they release a demo and then they write fake internet reviews and pay influencers to say this game is great and then they select only the positive crap and show it to investors during next board meeting and then they get more funds. When they release the game they don't care if it flops. They still got paid working on it./threadif you are not a totally brain fried faggot participating in the Unfrozen discord cult, this is glaringly obvious
Alright I've beat the game with all factions multiple times on 200% difficulty now. I need new factions.
>>723649018you can't play videogames on the schizo thread, I'm sorry
>>723647959As someone who played it. It's 4.5/10 Cool idea, decent enemy variety, a lot of brown and gray. Becomes boring quite fast. UI is superior to Olden Era one at least.
>>723649018Oink oink
>>723648826ive played plenty of turn based strategy games where i wasnt able to read the map from the start. it takes time. just like knowing which unit is what. its ok to be retarded faggot, dont worry
>>723648871put me in the screenshot when release flops/never happens
The game says that Heroes generate Law Points and I want to know how much except I can't find that information anywhere. There are upgrades that modify how much Law Points heroes give and they are probably pointless and stupid but I'd still like to be able to hover my mouse somewhere to see whether Heroes contribute 1% of Law Points or 10% or maybe even a big fat zero.
>>723648871>>723648972>That's how now it works. They are working on a product and it's clearly not the hot shit they were hoping and the investors are noticingbut it clearly is hot shit based on the demo interest. also hooded horse is privately owned so what investors and what board meeting?
>>723649151>ive played plenty of turn based strategy gamesLike..?>it takes time.As that anon said, it's not how sales works, especially if the UI of game from the same series which came out 30 years ago have more utility and readability.
>>723649185Combat exp also generates law points.
>>7236491124.5 or 5 out of 10 is respectable for a studio's first attempt at copying someone else's work with an "original" (sort of) IPYou can't take that to Might and Magic in 2024 and then delay until 2026.
>>723649250>demo interestfake metricsplease stop LARPing that you "don't know/understand" how to fake hype for a failing project.>IT'S NOT FAILINGthen it would have been released already, not delayed twice
>finally won a gameturns out dread knights are the real necro snowball
>>723649303such as fucking disciples 1 and 2. heroes 4 and 5 (5 to a lesser degree) for example. all closely related to this game. if you say it was all clear from the start or you knew what all units did from just one look you are lying through your teeth
>>723649250The demo interest tells me this is unpolished. And unless the owner of the franchise is literally doing all the coding all by himself then yes the concept of investment funding still applies. There's a top brass and there are people working on the game who have to convince them this is going to be hot shit.
>>723649654i forgot. that being said UI is a fucking disgrace and the devs should kill themselves for this shit but in no fucking way is it enough to warrant negativity to this degree. it looks dogshit but that doesnt make the game unplayable mess.
>>723649509so steam metrics are rigged because some minor publisher convinced gabe to fake interest in some forgotten IP?>>723649774>And unless the owner of the franchise is literally doing all the coding all by himself then yes the concept of investment funding still applies.owner of the franchise is ubishit who basically gave it to entirely different publisher to manage it>There's a top brass and there are people working on the game who have to convince them this is going to be hot shit.someone is completely unaware how long lets hooded horse keep games in EA and how successful they are on release despite that
>>723649392>You can't take that to Might and Magic in 2024 and then delay until 2026 I think they are passionate about the game at very least. Contrary to what schizo implying. But holy fuck the game looks like absolute shit. And delay is not going to fix UI. But at least people are interested enough. So not bad. Considering how forgettable the first game was.
>>723649917>is it enough to warrant negativity20 years of Ubishit+Unfrozen's aggressive NO MY SLAVIC BRUDDAHS I AM NOT TRYING TO GET YOU TO PREORDER INCOMPLETE GAME ad campaign=very warranted negativity
>>723649379Only from combat? A little disappointing considering so much early experience comes from chests and obelisks, but at least it's not zero. Thanks for the answer buddy.
>>723650080why are you quoting only part of my post, retard? shit mobile UI is not enough to say this game is dogshit -1/10. you cant even beat AI on 200% so you better shut the fuck up.
>>723650147I'm not 100% certain that it is only from combat.
>>723650080I would rather play early access game made by people that know the franchise more than you, than any modern slop that is "complete".
>>723650478Don't bother arguing with the schizo.
>>723650080>NO MY SLAVIC BRUDDAHS I AM NOT TRYING TO GET YOU TO PREORDER INCOMPLETE GAMEpeople want their FELL FOR IT AGAIN awards
>>723650046Holy shit I don't give a fuck. All I said was that the demo was released to generate (questionable) positive reviews for this work in progress which I don't think is doing as great as could be. I do not need to know anything about the company to see this pattern. It's like me pointing at someone's clothes and telling my opinion of their current fashion and you start telling me their life story. What the fuck.>ASHCKTUALLY IT'S PRIVATELY OWNEDThe fuck it matters? I just told you it don't matter and you just change the conversation to stupid shit like you forgot what you were trying to say.>UHOHH SOOOMEONE DOESN'T KNOW...I still don't care. I never asked. The fuck is happening. You're an actual shill aren't you? Could at least try be subtle, shit dude.
how do I get overland spells? I'm still confused by the magic system
>>723650518No sweat, I know it's vague, this is why I wish there was a clear indication in game. It's like the thing about how the heroes can upgrade their class if you select certain skills, feels like they forgot to plug that info in the character screen UI.
>>723563095What's the 6th faction? Other than infernobugs.
>>723651128Build up your mage guild and have high enough level on your hero (9 for TP, 12 for DD if I recall)
> why is the graphics so fucking meh and soilless> made by a Russian teamдa блять кaждый paз
>>723651240sylvan
>>723651240Sylvan. The green haired chicks with bows. I went to check their unit roster but I'm disappointed that it's mostly monsters rather than elves. >Faun>Hoplet>Vine iriyad>Aqualotl>Herbomancer>Qilin>Phoenix
>>723651798All elves are monsters.
>You can build angel generating structure in the first week basically guaranteed>Crossbowmen double shots generates focus twice so you can spam heroic strike a lot to help early gameYou know what? I take back some of my criticism, Temple isn't so bad as a faction. The extra heroic strikes helps make up for their T1 unit being a glorified dead weight, and having angels in week 2 is bonker since they are so strong even without upgrade. On the other hand the inquisitors and joosters are still kinda meh. Also I noticed that the summon avatar skill is pretty good for triggering ascension for free.
>>723647137>only black girl unit in an empire of white menwhat did the devs mean with this
>>723652598The inquisitors may be black too but we can't tell
>>723651798>>723651773So, no barbarians? LAME
>>723652668That's pretty weird ackshually. Barbs were in every single HoMM since the start.
>>723652998
>>723632446>The lack of death cloud sucks,One of the upgraded versions has it.
>>723632446Death cloud is still there but now it hurts all units, even your own undead.
>>723650061>I think they are passionate about the game at very least.Well may be whoever is responsible for art design, but it looks like shit
>>723652998>>723652668Now hold up, so it's a fantasy game with elves and dragons, but no goblins or orcs? I don't miss them, they're overdone but still that is odd.
>>723647412There are better ones for Necropolis.
>>723647412Mata has amazing speciality, wish she was Dungeon.
>>723653450This part is actually insane to me. Everyone told the game looks like shit >"Uh Oh it's Ubisofts models we can't change anything" C'mon. Now.
>>723632446>they are no longer the only ranged unit (Skeleton Archers),Existed in V>Blood Liches can cast an extremely powerful resurrect spell that scales with the amount of liches.Existed in V, but was way more balanced.
>>723653658Basically the only reason why Ubisoft made deal with Unfrozen is because Unfrozen CEO shared Ubis vision of Olden Era as revamp of the original setting (Enroth) on the same manner as Star Wars Sequel Era.
>>723653457Stronghold was in every game they might add them later on.Fortress/Dwarves are also missing.
>>723653798also he's a gay easily manipulated retard
>>723649513I won my first necro game with skellingtons and liches playing the skeleton unit guy. Skellies get surprisingly strong with just a handful of upgrades
>>723654218Cope harder shill
>>723643975This is about jerking off, not playing
>>723647412>Schism waifu>That frosty bitchWRONG
>Web is -4 speed when maxed, limiting most basic creatures to 1 movementWell that's not OP at all
>>723648439>>723645123>>723647989>>723654774It looks like portraits and design was made by a woman, judging by how uninspiring new towns are.Not my HoMMhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=whjFjwF47tc
>>723654878It's not a mass spell any more, except for one hero so it's not as bad.
>>723655025It's retarded game-deisng.
>>723655079k
>>723647412for me, it's the redhead.Not even irish.
>>723563095I tried HoMM 3 and got bored really fast. The comabt is too simple, I expected it to be more like FFT, but only the map movement matters, making it essentially Warcraft lite. How is Olden Era? is it the same thing?
>>723656045Same but a lot worseH3 had a working UI for example
>t1 specialist>+1 growth>t6 specialist>+1 growthHOW IT'S NOT PERCENTAGE BASED?!
>>723655079You could also cast a spell that bricks all enemy ranged units or makes the enemy army suicide. Homm isn't an esport
>>723656416if you never intend to release a game, you never have to balance it
>>723639330It cracks me up that he will literally just seethepost for hours and nobody bothers replying to him anymore lmao
Wait. There is no difference between your unit having 100 Def, and your unit simply having +1 Def over the enemy's Atk? My Def stacking has been a waste?
>>723657957I'd love to know, I cant find any rules for how the attack-defense math works
>>723657957>>723658267In 3 each point of attack over the defenders defense would boost damage by 5% and each point of defense higher than the attackers attack would reduce damage by 2.5%. It works similarly in Olden Era. You can easily see the impact of defense when comparing the predicted damage against different unit tiers.
>cast negative spell on enemy stack>enemy hero's turn>he casts a different aoe buff spell>your completely different spell now disappeared for no reasonnice demo
>>723660345Shrink shadow is overwritten by enlarge shadow and vice versa.
>>723660781[citation needed]
>>723660875Hold shift and click one of them. The effect gets added at spell level 3 if i remember correctly.
>>723661161m8 b8 Ctrl-Alt-Delete?
>>723660781why does heavenly blade dispell everything?
>>723563095test
I don't understand what I'm supposed to do here. Clearly I'm meant to grab the resources on the map but I don't have any spells and I can't get any either.
>>723663594It's retarded. You only need to hold 10 of each at some point, not all at once. Buy 10 of two with gold, then trade them for the third.
>>723663594nvm I figured it out
>>723665093That works too? Huh, that's not how I did it. You can grab an extra ability for your hero because you had an unspent level-up thing and you can make your hero count as an extra market.
>>723665249How do you use unspent levels? That was my first assumption for a solution but i couldn't figure out how to do it.
>>723665603You gotta click the level indicator at the bottom of your hero portrait (the 3 in that image). I was furiously clicking everything on the screen lmao.
>>723666169The ui really does need some work. It was more intuitive for me to find a way to exploit their spaghetti code than click there.
>open spellbook>accidentally click on the field instead of the open spellbook>unit moves and you lose your turn
>>723666392That's the first thing I struggled with regarding the UI. They should make the glowing around the number more apparent.
>>723666458How? You have to double click for movement and you only need to click the icon once. Also, you can press B.
>>723666458It just happened to me but sillier version, I was hovering my cursor and checking spell descriptions and I accidentally clicked on the field with a spell and yes somehow you can cast a spell with your book still open. Like my hero was just reading his spellbook while scratching his chin and OOPS, blasted some dude with lightning bolt without looking. I have thaumatology-something so I followed by casting the correct spell I was looking for but that was a bruh moment.
>>723666458Misclicks are always fatal in tb games.
>>723666938All that was during battle so my unit moved into an empty space
shill thread, likely publisher paid as is its custom
>>723668502I shill this game for free. My next move is to go make an off topic shill post in the stealth Uma Musume thread.
