Arc RaidersSuch a shame that this is another run of the mill extraction shooterThe game looks great, performs really well for UE5 and the cutscenes and premise are niceBut they just had to bow to Tencent didnt they
>Such a shame that this is another run of the mill extraction shooterTranslation from OP's native language (faggotish) to english:>extraction shooters le bad because I'm terrible at videogames and I get btfo by better players constantly, I need to play against braindead AI to have any sort of fun
I would McFucking KILL for a single player sandbox with this level of immersive sound and visual design. We're stuck with Fallout 76 and this shit instead of a truly immersive open world RPG. Life is suffering.
is boringflavor of the month maybe
The game looks good and it’s kinda funBut as with any extraction shooter, it just feels really really fucking bad to get wiped and lose all your shitAnd it makes me not want to play it anymore
>looks greatit looks like a game from the late 2000s
>>723563924is there a single player or coop mode? I don't care about pvp
>>723564281>leyou know where you belong, that's not here btw
>>723564649no they had a singleplayer game in mind but tencent said they had to change it to extractionnot even joking>>723564439samethe atmoshere is great but alas
>>723564815shameI'll keep playing Duckov then I guess
Please explain the concessions they made specifically for Tencent since you seem to know. Cite your sources
>>723565064https://www.pcgamer.com/games/third-person-shooter/embarks-next-shooter-is-ditching-free-to-play-so-devs-can-focus-more-on-the-fun-and-not-encouraging-players-to-make-purchases/OrAt timestamphttps://youtu.be/9OJEa_dzoDs?si=B7i24Yh48f4aJhOv&t=1253
>>723565168still waiting
>>723563924>BOOHOO OPEN WORLD SURVIVAL >BOOHOO BATTLE ROYALE >BOOHOO EXTRACTION SHOOTER >BOOOHOOO SUCH A SHAME!!!11The issue isn't the game. You're just a piss baby who stuck in early 00s mentality of consequence free deathmatch autism.
>>723565978oh my but she is a piece of sexy no..? *.* is there perhaps any p*rnography of her or instagram in sexynessa outfit..? i very much like to fap it on this vixen.. *.*
>>723563924It looked interesting as a PvE game. Then it feels like they slapped the extractionslop at the last minute. "Test players weren't having fun with the PvE gameplay" isn't a sign that you need to turn it into another extraction shooter of the bunch but to improve on your fucking gameplay. Literally a skill issue.
Extraction games are like NTR. You either are cucked and lose all your shit. Or you cuck other people and have an amazing time. Love it or hate it.
>>723565978fucking retard
>Play solo>Exfil camper rapes you while you try to dodge bots>Play in squad>Retards go straight to the center to pvp, proceed to get gaped by 2 team at the same timeit's just not fun
>>723564545Bonus points if it happens just before you exfil. Yeah, no tnx
>>723564281Nah, extraction shooters suck because 80% of the gameplay is running around rummaging through drawers for scraps.
>>723564815>a singleplayer game in mindAn actual campaign or the same shit we have now with no other players
>>723567781Actual campaign with story progression, the base you see in the game was your "hub" where you could walk around, upgrade stuff etc.
Where does the longevity come from in this game? Tech test 2 people had great gear within a few days and once you're kitted out, what loot is there to chase? Tarkov is slower to progress and still has to do wipes to get players back, how does this game plan to maintain interest without wipes and with faster progression?
the image that killed Tencent (tm) ARC raiders
>>723567963it'll die in a 2 months tops
>>723567963Yeah I was kind of feeling that. Game feels barren as fuck like a f2p EA game, but its $40
>>723565978briainless npc response
>>7235679638 week optional resets to grind cosmetics
The problem isn't that it's an extraction shooter. The problem is that it lacks any depth to be anything more than a FOTM.
Looking at clips, the map from the previous playtest looks more fun and inviting
>spend 15 minutes sifting through garbage>go to extract>the extraction process takes forever and makes a giant racket that attracts enemies and other people>die while extracting because I have no way to defend myself and there's no way to check for or flush out camperswhat a waste of time, at least this playtest saved me $40
>>723568842wait the release is not free
>>723563924trying to learn the areausing the single shot heavy rifle that can actually let you kill the bots as a solo player1 run successful extract with no backpacktons of runs died to either other players, or I aggro one of the fuckass alarm bots that summons 1 heavy rocket drone and 2 fuckass hornet dronesI got a sniper rifle from a little flare supply drop thing didnt even get to use it. was walking over a hill and alarmbot spotted me.I dont know how I will survive or extract unless I take a minimum of this heavy rifle in. I cant go in unarmed to try to loot. stupid gay ass tarkov shit.>>723568842theres a button on the elevator you can hold E on to make the elevator go down in 5 seconds.
>>723563924It's just more gay woke shit you retards.
>>723567963YupTarkov if you want quest and gear progression and a decent reset cycleHunt if you want actual good balanced gameplay and pvp without wipesHunt also looks better, sounds better and plays better. Arc raiders sounds like shit despite the shilling, I don't even understand why "sound design" is one of their paid shilling points
>>723567963>once you're kitted out, what loot is there to chase?that's where the loop peaks out and now you're just out for other players. The game does have the Queen but I think today's update patched her out and made her a chance % spawn.
how do I use a free loadout
>>723569618>woke>GOODNESS NO THE LOGO HAS COLORS IN IT ITS WOOOOOOOOOKEyou
>>723570770>body type 1 and 2You dumb fucking retard lol
>>723570812OH GOD NOT THE BODY TYPES
>>723570853Everyone hates you, you stinking tranny demon.
>>723570853not buying
>>723570962go touch grass or something once in a while
>>723566145>>723565978Sar any way to showboob vagene? sar? i hate woman sar
>>723571010You're not a woman your skeleton will always be a male skeleton.
>>723570812>>723570853>body type 1 and 2Thanks for the heads up, not buying. Kudos..er..."my dude"
I'll wait until it becomes F2P PvE.
>>723564769Straight over your head. YOU belong there, faggot.
on one hand, this thread reeks of casualon the other hand>$30 looter-shooter extraction game
>>723571632Anyone going into a PVP game expecting to not deal with PVP is a retard. I agree though, looter shooters are gay. Shame we dont get many TPS PVP games anymore.
I'm guessing the robots have weakspots, because dumping 3 mags into them isn't the right way to go about it
>>723573431The flying ones you go for the thrusters and they'll end up spinning and crashing down. The rolling firebomb one you wait for it to open up and its a one shot. The big ones? Wolf packs which are a PVE quick-use or weapons we can't even use right now
>>723572128peeking around the corner with hover cam is gay
>>723563924It's woke, so I'll be skipping it.
I don't care about the troon faces. Just why no option for actually pretty faces????
>>723573976normies (devs) dont care about cool characters. they cant imagine roleplaying or decorating their dudes. it's 2 gamer
>>723563924cant believe in a 3rd person pvp game they do not have line of sight for the players. peeking corners because of god mode camera is a bad mechanic.
It's been fun enough so far but the fact that it's a TPS bothers me someAlso that your inventory gets cluttered with basic materials really quicklyThis feels like one of those games that within a month of release there'll be a meta that everyone will follow and every engagement will feel the same, so I'll cherish this playtest phase where there's forty thousand people who don't know what they're doing
>>723569707It has great sound effects. Everything is loud and you can really feel and hear the boom depending on the weapons. Plus the VOIP sounds amazing too. Go away hunt shill.
looted a full backpack and went to one of the exits. giant spider and a bot patrolling around. call the elevator and hide, some guy takes a sniper rifle shot at me, misses my head. one bot engages him. I see him sprinting away and tag him once. I rush in while the bots are distracted and call for the 5 second evac on the elevator. Dude charges in trying to magdump me, misses all his shots. As Im rounding the corner to fight him, the 5 seconds expires and we both escape. lol
>>723573862>>723574241the sound is so loud in this game, it's really easy to hear everyone. and the ttk is high enough that little tip-toe faggots aren't rewarded for it. it's really a blast desu
>>723569707I love Hunt but ease up with this shit, play a little bit or Arc Raiders, find better guns, realize that guns sound exactly how they should sound as in early pieces of shit sound weak because they are.
>>723569852its always a chance unless you have the harvester event in which case its 100%
I didn't want to play anyway
after playing for awhile and dying a lot initially its better
This game is the most casual slow paced piece of 3rd person console shit I’ve ever seen. Leave it to the faggots here to cry that it’s not casual enough and they want a single player mode lmao
>>723574130This is retarded too, just make it fp.
>>723564281cope.The game is not fun, at least yet. And the character designs are all ugly
why would i play this when tarkov exists?
>>723576226>"you can't play because we can't track your browser's history"LMEOW
Im playing the free one that got to steam recently...arena breakout.Legit fun and challenging...and i found pretty fairin how you can recover your lost stuff or safe ways of playing without losing much.For the people that played both,its hard to recover your loss in ark riders?
>>723575179>play a dogshit game because it sounds goodease up with the shilling
>>723578752Of course first person is way better and show always be the first option but if a game must have 3rd person, at the very least they could have that mechanic so people cant peak corners.
Anyone fought the robot that summons a rocket robot and 2 gun drones? If you kill him fast enough im assuming he doesnt alert.And how do you beat the rocket robot?Ive just been using the ferro but im solo so I get wrecked every time. Have you killed him with friends? Are there any gadgets that make it easier?I have the cover deployable but havnt tried to use it yet.
>every complaint about the game i've seen so far boils down to "WOOOOOOOW I DIED TO SOME GUY AFTER LOOTING FOR SO LONG"so how is it actually though
>>723578870tarkov is dogshit
>>723563924I stopped at the rainbow.
>>723579109why do you write like a boomer>>723579238why do you write like a bot
>>723579602If they wrote like fags there'd be no variety in this thread.
>>723579475>so how is it actually thoughit's one of the worst games I've ever played
>>723579602Are you mad because I didnt reply to someone
>>723579781that doesn't mean anything when you say that about literally every game
>>723579123It's objectively not dogshit, the whole looting/crafting/hideout shit is not my cup of tea either but you have to appreciate a well-made product when you see one.
>>723564281Lmao, you actually play extractionslop?
>>723563924>extraction shooterDon't mind, I've been looking for something to play with the bros. The real issue is the shop and battlepass bullshit in a paid game AND it being an extractiom shooter.>buy sum advantage dood!It gives me mega death aids
>>723568141Yeah, the outfits really look like shit lol
>>723564281The funny thing is they spent years remaking it for faggots like you who won't buy it anyways.
>>723579929>omg you heckin literally say that about every game XDhow many video essays did you watch about how amazing this painfully mediocre game is?>shit loot>shit guns>shit AI>shit 3rd person>shit art style>maximum DEI>>723580052>It's objectively not dogshit>can't elaborate furtherreally makes you think
>>723576000Yesterday, I kept spawning in and there was the harvester waypoint on the map -- after the update I only saw the queen once.
>>723566623Its a mix of the two, get competent teammates (rare if randoms) and you show up late to find people already fighting and third party them. then you wait until you find the next one dealing with bots trying to extract
>>723580483How old are you? genuinely
>>723580058You saying it like there are other extraction games to play. It's literally 1/2 which has solid game design. The other one is Hunt Showdown. You can't criticize a genre which barely has any examples to prove or disprove the concept.
>>723579750True>>723579837No
>>723580736>tell me your age so I can deflectCan't defend this slop without a strawman? lmao
>>723581032I'm not interesting in discussing anything with a literal child
>>723576226Autohotkey is detected by most respectable anti-cheats because it can be used to make anti-recoil scripts and simple aimbots (colour trackers which track player emblems).
>>723563924They should do 'whatever is not looted returns to you' and assembling new loadout to be killed in crossfire 5min later makes me wonna quit the game...
>go extract with 0 ammo>theres a camper but whatever im goated>somehow managed to live until the elevator shows up>camper kills me>he gets thirded>I use the distraction to crawl on the console and start the fast countdown >as soon as im done he finishes me>he has 3 seconds to loot mesome people are just completely retarded, there must be a final solution to this kind of behaviour
>>723563924Wtf is an extraction shooter?
>>723579238idk man I don't think you're supposed to be able to properly solo shit like the Rocketeer with the low-tier guns/upgrades we're stuck with in this playtestprevious playtests had higher level workbenches etc
>>723581138you're not interested in discussing anything, just want to cope about how this shit game is actually good and can't do it without resorting to calling me a child like a shit eating redditor.my first console was a Sega Master System, can we discuss how dogshit this game is now without anymore deflections?
>>7235813521) you enter a map2) you shoot/loot3) you (try to) leave the map
>>723563924hmm this game runs really well for an UE5 title i wonder wha->it's another NvRTX game like The Finalsfigures, the only time a UE5 game runs well is when a special Nvidia branch of it
>>723578752there is also FP in the game, it removes the issue of it having TP being a complaint on your part u retort
>>723581352>Wtf is an extraction shooter?It's the latest trend creatively bankrupt devs are chasing after BRs died
>>723581343how is that retardedhe denied you loot you could have used against him laterfuck you :D haha loser
>>723581343bare in mind this is the same idiocy that has people chase you into doors you purposefully left open and are aiming a shotgun at. it cant be helped you just have to treat them like rats at every opportunity
>>723581701>laterwhen, theres 200k people on the server
>>723563924>another run of the mill it is anything but that you faggot, just say you don't like extraction shooters instead of crying for pve modes on the steam forums
>>723564439But open world single player games need to have real content unlike a Skinner's box disguised as progression. That's why you don't see them.
>>723581453Sure it was buddy, maybe learn how to talk without spewing nothing but buzzword vomit
>>723581343Well its a free test right now so you have a lot of low iq thirdies and slavs running around
>>723581886>it is anything but thatIt's generic run of the mill slop, nothing innovative or unique about this game>just say you don't like extraction shooters instead of crying for pve modesI have 2k hours in Tarkov, this game is dogshit
>>723581853still not 0% chancefaggot
>>723579475Isn't that issue enough? Do you really want to spend 20 minutes sifting through trashcans for meaningless stuff? It's the kind of thing I did as a kid on GMOD Roleplay servers before realizing how fucking gay it is.
Im tired of these shitters thinking they can just fight drones and then beg for bullets. No im not giving you bullets. If you ask for bullets im extracting.
>>723582097yes is it, I did all the quests in the beta so I'm uninstallingand my loot wont stay for the release
>>723579475Shooting doesn't really have a skill gap to it, very basic.Shield-style healing means its hard to come back if you get your shields blasted off from behind cause even with a full recharger it takes a decent amount of time. Unless the other person chokes all his shots I guess.The loot itself is kinda boring, partly because of the setting. People care about finding barter loot in Tarkov but no one cares about futuristic metal thingamabobs. Also not a ton of loose loot, its like 95% container loot from what I've noticed which means it can be quite tedious even compared to Tarkov. The skill tree is actually nice, especially if you won't be able to make all 3 trees. I played the last test and the other maps are also cool but I actually still am unsure if Ill buy it.
>>723581654>game started with all high, rtx on high? and it was stuck at 50fps>with a 9060XT at 4Kso that's why? It's a special branch that no one uses?
>>723581936>noooo I can tell how old you are by muh buzzwordsYou're getting offended because people are calling this game dogshit, you pathetic faggot. Maybe don't make mediocre video games a part of your personality?
>>723582307apparently only these developers use itit's kind of alternative fork of UE5 made in cooperation with the jews from nvidia, making it work takes more time and tinkering than standard UE5 but the end result generally runs a lot better
>>723570853I will not pay money for games that features "Body Types A and B"
>>723563924Had they not run the server slam I probably would have bought it on release since I liked the last playtestBut the server slam is so bad it kind of made me reconsider
DON'T extract in the swamp there's no fucking cover for miles and you can't see shit from all the bushes everywhere
>gun trader is a gook roastie with a british accent>gadget trader is a basketball american>material trader is a dyke>security trader is a brown mutt abomination (also a roastie I think)>meds trader is an androidDEI Raiders
>>723563924this could been AAA warframe btw it was supposed to be a f2p pve looter shooter but somehow they decided to kill it to make a full priced extraction shooter
This game flopping would be overall for the better, engineers and senior devs are unironically doing magic to get this performance out of UE5 and its a waste for them to be doing shit like the finals and this when they could been working on cool projects
>>723569618Arsch Reiter
I want a PvE extraction shooter.
>>723583660Looter shooter is even more low iq than extraction shooter
>>723575074First time i played gunshots almost blew my fucking ears off
>>723580075>>extraction shooter>Don't mind>AND it being an extractiom shooter
>>723581654pretty insane this and the finals are the ONLY ue5 games than run this goodat this point just give other developers this ue5 branch and get rid of the shitty one
>>723583660Could have been a really cool scifi singleplayer game but nooooooo
>>723582481>>723571008If having Body types instead of genders is all it takes to not have you retards in the game then I'll take it.
>>723583964Play HOLE
This game will be forgotten when Eve Vanguard comes out.
>>723584590WHO?
>>723583964Witchfire
>>723584590It'll be forgotten after the play test given it's basically made for the retards in the East Asian market
>>723584261body types are just the tip of the DEI iceberg in this pozzed game.
I had fun.The game isn't pozzed, it's just Sci fi which has always been eclectic.It has a unique style and interesting enemies. The pve physics and ways that enemies react to being shot or damaged is really interesting and immersive. The sound design is incredible and a whole element in itself that lets you detect people brushing against dry sticks or crunching gravel.I kept proximity chat on and talked to lots of people and made temporary truces,l. It was very immersive.I also murdered lots of people remorselessly once I had a set of gear worth protecting. I did a bit of camping and then a bit of fucking around with IEDs and explosive spam.Overall im glad I gave the game a second chance after my bad first impression. I love the setting and aesthetics so much I will probably buy it.
>>723584103>the finals>runs goodfor a game with max 12 players, it sure as hell does not run good. Literally every update since release has been demolishing graphics performances and now they add denuvo anticheat to boot.
>>723587050who's behind this post?
>>723587326I got banned from bf6 for a week for calling chinese yellow niggers in chat so I tried this game out. Went in with zero expectations and made my own fun.Turns out it's fucking funny chasing around little nighers while spamming adrenaline shots and spamming an inventory full of grenades.
>>723587286It does tho
>>723587050>the game isn't pozzedit couldn't be more pozzed. Concord levels of pozz
>>723564281there is genuinely no extraction shooter that captures the magic like tarkov does, and tarkov is ran by the most retarded person alive. arc raiders is fun, but it's fun for a week and thats it.
>>723563924boring ass gameplay
>>723587750>arc raiders is fun, but it's fun for a week and thats itThere's no way to tell considering how limited the game access has been so far. Who knows what late game looks and plays like?
>>723587286The Finals runs fairly well.
>>723587954>Who knows what late game looks and plays like?this beta is the perfect glimpse of what the end game will look like when you run out of things to do.
>>723581190it's a browser though, I think librewolf uses it for autoupdates
>>723584261Don't care, still not giving ideologically compromised people money.
>>723587662I don think you understand the comparison youre making hereconcord was generational
>intrigued by the universe>runs great, looks great>gameplay is picking stuff up, maybe shooting a drone every once in a while>encounter player>fight lasts 4 seconds>get smoked because I don't have 3K hours in previous extraction games>run's overLove the aesthetic and performance but can't for the life of me enjoy this genre.
>>723588404This game has as much pozz jammed into it as possible, it's only less pozzed than Concord because hero shooters have more room for pozz
>>723583964A PVE only game like this would be nice but it would need a mechanic forcing players to stay together. Helldivers 2 kinda comes close (also no loot) but there's zero sense of templay. Everyone just does their own thing most matches.
>>723563924The only feedback i can give is that they don't give any inventive or way to play in a friendly way, on the "survival" mode of the division, they gave you the option to go on friendly mode in which you would have a green outline around your char and the first 5 shots you receive you would receive -30% damage from the bullets, but if you tried to shoot someone first in friendly mode, your first 15 bullets would deal -50% damage, and also, there is no way to recruit someone to your team let's say, fi you're playing solo, or make some sort of alliance.also the community is absolute trash, i've never seen a more self-destructive community since the creation of >>>/lgbt/but yea this play test saved me 40$ dollars , the game is raw and has nothing new in the end.
>>723565978What is your point here. On one side of the spectrum you have Battlefield 6 which just launched to millions of players, a contained no consequences PvP game. On the other side is Helldivers 2, a PvE jump in/jump out third person shooter.Both are going to be more successful than Arc ever will. Because extraction shooters are not popular. They're always poorly made and always lacking any depth for many reasons. Its simply not a good game idea.>but tarkov!Is a pure PvP game (due to AI being wet noodles) with a pure PvE mode. Its not forced PvPvE like Arc.
>>723588440>get smoked because I don't have 3K hours in previous extraction gamesnah, you got smoked because you are a shitter who can't into most simplistic shooting mechanics
>>723588932except the division is a PVE game first and PVP game second and Arc Raiders is vice versa
>>723569504Its actually funnier than that. If you get inside the lift, dying lets you keep your gear. You can also interact with the console while alive or dying to escape. So just run in circles, walk/crawl inside and you win. Its stupid like all extraction shooters.
>>723588440>>723588958This is every Arc thread summed up>Game looks great, love the art, sound and enemy design I would buy it but >the PvP ruins it for me I would prefer more PvE>NOOOOOB FUCK YOU Pick any post, it fits one of the above
>>723588440>get smoked because I don't have 3K hours in previous extraction gamesYou fags do this for any game that pits you against another player.
>>723588935>Battlefield 6, a contained no consequences PvP gamebut not really, theres ticketsif you get into a tank and fuck it up you cant just get a new one right away, cuase you fucked up your team has to waitif you ignore objectives you lose
Why are redditors and resetera fags always this obvious?
>>723589293>PvE shitters get filteredGood
>>723563924Never understood the appeal for this genre.
>>723589293to be fair, that particular anon was making excuses and shifting the blame instead of accepting his skill issues. I get that some people prefer PvE games and don't want to fight against other players, it's fine. But this >>723588440 loser can go fuck himself
>>723589356PVE games are harder than PvP. The only exception would be games with extreme progression requirements like Eve.No human can beat AI chess. Any human can beat other humans in PvP. Its just a question of how quickly do you devolve to no skill maximum reward game style.
>>723589512There isnt any excuses in his post hes saying the same thing most people are. Great game, beautifully designed, terrible PvP.
>>723589524>PVE games are harder than PvP.lol
>>723589603>get smoked because I don't have 3K hours in previous extraction gameskill yourself, samefag scrub
>Looting and PvE is boring as fuck>PvP is the only fun part and still plays like diet Tarkov or HuntAt least Hunt was clever enough to realize that if you don't have a deep progression layer you might as well trim the fat and focus entirely on the PvP.
>>723589524lol retard
>Be me>Never played an extraction shooter>Try out this beta>Just get mulched instantly by players, even when I started shooting first>PVE enemies are too tanky for the crappy weapons you get>Healing is too slow and cumbersome>Manual shield recharging>Free loadout doesn't include a safe pocket so you have to try even harder to keep your stuff for quests>But you're disincentivized as a new player to bring your better stuff into the field Fuck this I'm going back to Megabonk.
>>723589813Maybe try going back to r*ddit instead.
>>723564281i can see why the game will die though.I had a bunch of fun in the 3 rounds i played, but i can see the writing on the wall.By the time of the end of my third game, the other parties werent even bothering to loot anymore, they just run around trying to find the other parties. We got ambushed at the extraction site, i survived and got away somehow, but it was a literal miracle. Don't get me wrong, i had a blast, but if that became the norm, where you're exposed and easy prey for campers, i know i would quickly get sick of the game and quit. Getting out of the buildings, and getting to extraction is supposed to be the relieving part of the game, not getting ganked at the last second by a lazy camping sweaty.
>>723589881Extraction shooters are an inherently reddit genre.
I've already seen players co-ordinating in solo queue to gank actual solos at elevators>took out 2 raiders and heard "come to the elevator he's not looted me ye-">left a trigger nade on his corpse>elevator arrives>ferro retard misses my back as I walk in>press extraction button>blow up the trigger nadehope I killed the tard, not going to bother buying if solo play is pointless to discord retards.
>>723589885No wipes will kill the game, in 3-4 months people will just be running full loadouts and steam rolling any potential new players cause the PVE will be "solved" essentially and the only joy after is PVP
>>723563924>it wont do well because it won't attract the zoomersThey need to reverse fortnite it
>>723589943People will always do this >discord retards>using proximity based retard
>>723574130it makes zero sense for a looter shooter, losing all your gear to someone that was watching you 3rd person peeking, why would i want to go through looting back up just to have it happe again?
A real extraction shooter hasn't been tried yet.
>>723580651>bots trying to extract-farmThe chicken scavenger mechanic will probably fix that, potentially at least, you have a chicken in base that passively finds trash-loot for you, so you can always manufacture basic weapons, ammo and accessories even if you get rekt and lose all your good shit.
>>723589943making shaky alliances during matches is one the best things about the genre
>>723563924Its better than any shooter thats out, or coming out. So I will be buying day 1
>>723590067I know 3rd person peaking is kinda cringe but you can do it too, theres no power imbalance here, lock intheres also a button (x) to change the shoulder youre looking over so you can get sweaty with it too
what's the lore behind PvP?Righ now I see no reason for raiders to kill other raiders, because you all come from the same town and work for the same people
>>723590062the dumbass probably made the prox bind the same as his discord ptt>>723590141they queued to join the same game as solos, it was too obvious.
>>723588958>>723589302Nope, I play a variety of shooters so I know what my average skill level is, but BR/extraction games attract a certain type of sweat I have no chance against. Also, because of the nature of the game, it would take me hundreds (thousands?) of boring hours to git gud, time I just don't want to invest. Knowing I'm not alone in this boat and that it's launching with a $40 price tag, I predict these core mechanics will change sooner than later.
>>723590441>Also, because of the nature of the game, it would take me hundreds (thousands?) of boring hours to git gudHow? It has very arcadey shooting and not particularly complex throwables, what exactly are you talking about? Map knowledge?
>>723589615>>723589734And no counter points, because im right. Thanks for conceding.
>>723589881Shittid loves extraction shooters, you go back noob
>WOOOOW WHY DIDN'T YOU JUST LET ME LEAVE STOP KILLING MEwhy the fuck are some of you even playing video games kek
>>723590075>Death deletes the save fileThe funny thing is this would probably work better than the half assed version we have now where you stockpile loot
>>723590268The Publisher demanded the game be switched from PvE to PvP. There is no lore. Its a failed attempt to make money.
>>723590268you don't even "kill" each otheryou just knock them out
>>723590660humans cant beat AI in chess because its an unrestricted computer, AI in games has limits on it or otherwise it would be literally unbeatable for the good chunk of the playerbase, when setting the limits on AI devs usually overcorrect, or just dont bother making anything complex in the first placein games where this happens you can usually see "hardest" difficulty AI has to have some form of cheat resources to cope with its lobotomyso no, by design PvE will not be harder than PvP, in equal standing people simply have higher int over the AIin this game you can literally just enter buildings and the fliers wont dare come in so you can heal up and shoot the wings at your leisure
this is the most casual extraction shooter ever made, not joking- super slow character, stamina bar for sprinting- low TTK- very slow healing / reloading / recovery from fights- extremely tanky and aggro AI punishes solos and griefs their ammo/meds, groups can melt them- third person camera for sitting at corners and receiving perfect intel / shutting down any aggression- casual ADS shooting that takes away your already low mobility- takes 1-2 seconds to get full accuracy after ADSing- extreme bullet dispersion even then, shooting the revolver past 10m is literal gambling- bias towards generic automatic guns, the sniper sucks cock and does as much dmg as four AR bullets- downed players are tankier than a full HP player, good luck killing a group as a solo
>>723584261ok enjoy unemployment
>>723591158The fact AI has to be limited is why PvE is harder than PvP. Its that simple.
>"Beating AI enemies designed to lose to a bottom 10% player is harder than PvP against players who could be the #1 in the world"This is your brain on PvE gamer dad mental illness. Bet this retard plays WoW and considers it really hardcore
>>723584261Woke = sexist = illogical. Its why the game is poorly made, the devs dont know what they're doing. If you cant figure out humans are equal and male/female is normal you cant make good video games.
When is Tarkov coming to steam?
>>723591535who even cares, it's chink/ruspig cheater heaven with p2w packs
>>723591445The top 10% of any gamers, cant beat unrestricted AI in any game. If Arc added a PvE enemy, with the same requirements as players (gather, extract) but instant reaction time it would kill them infinitely. You can do this with any genre. AI can always perform better than players period.
>>723591575No other good ones, Hunt is dogshit now.
>>723591445>Designed to loseYou proved yourself wrong flawlessly.
>>723591601>unrestricted AIwhat the fuck does this even mean you retard. it doesn't exist. everyone can beat PvE enemies in PvE games. they are designed to be beatable by retards (ie: you.) you are a casualthe mental gymnastics here are macking me cackle like a demon, why are casuals so mentally ill? it's like they really really really want to be seen as hardcore super serious gamers while they play candy crush and beat bots designed to lose to them
>>7235915352 weeks after this releases, the 15th of november>>723591601>well what if (scenario that will never happen)
>>723591663It improves with every update and is in a great state right now
>>723591445>People are already complaining the PvE element is too hard>Devs already said they're looking to nerf Arc enemies >HURRRR PVP HARD
>>723591601>If Arc added a PvE enemy, with the same requirements as players (gather, extract) but instant reaction time it would kill them infinitely.if pve games added spinbotting aimbot enemies, pvefags would not play them. because they are mentally weak, submissive, and hate losing. hence why they play pve games.
>>723591705It means that when you design something to be beaten, it can be beaten. I can design an enemy with the same mechanics as any player that always beats players. Doesnt matter how good you are, AI wins.
>>723591780>>People are already complaining the PvE element is too hardthis can happen, yes, but players are harder to beat still, and they cant be nerfed
>>723591780you mean PvEfags whined that killing bots was too difficult, like usual, and it's being made even more casual? hahahahahawhy are they so pathetic and bad at games, just don't play games if you're too shit for PvP. watch movies
>>723581660>there is also FP in the gameWhere? There is no way to enter first person in Arc Raiders as far as I know.
Why couldn't they just make a story mode? The story and premise are interesting but I don't want to interact with other players that will no life the game and ruin it for employed gamers
>>723590087by bots I meant the robots, people are busy doing that and you just get them with their pants down.
>Finally use the zipline>crucial moment as players and drones shoot at us>place it right below the big tower>ping it and zip up>both mates pinned>use binoculars to ping raiders>they're both down>pick the remaining ones off>jump down to get the last guy>he revives ones and its 2v1man the one time I use the zip and its actually worth it we die immediately after I set it up
>>723591793You seem very insecure. Because anyone who played PvE and PvP games equally would know PvE games are harder.
>>723591793And pvp children would get mad that they cant rat or spawn camp which is all they do in extraction shooters lmao
>>723564281Extraction shooters all suffer from the MMO-tier fetch quest BS.Like in EFT you need gorillion pieces of random junk just to fix a lightbulb.I dont look at maps and think "damn I want to go there because its a cool spot".I go to a spot that spawns the specific kind of crayons I need for my kitchen sink upgrade.
>>723592053AI will never be at the level of a human being as far as challenge is concerned. There is always a predictable way to beat them. Even when they're super overtuned like in Tarkov.
>>723592123>NOOOO, HUMANS (UNLIKE THE BOTS DESIGNED TO LOSE TO ME) USE EFFECTIVE TACTICS, IT'S NOT FAIIIIRRRRRRRR!!!!pvefags are so pathetic, i love bullying them in PvEvP games so much. i masturbate to PvEfag tears in prox chat
>>723591859Yes they can. You can increase the TTK for example making it harder to PvP because it takes longer to kill someone.
>>723592123>People are engaging me in a circumstance other than pistols at high noonsoulsborne honorfags have polluted the PvP mindset of gamerdads.
>>723590335I recognize that gay blowjob
>>723592178I find shorter TTKs are harder. I've always had more difficulty getting into CoD than Halo.
>>723592148Not even remotely true.
>>723592175Yes yes, you get bullied and cant get laid and take it out on others. We know, maybe if you got /fit/ or admit youre gay you could move on with your life.
>>723592207>Nooo i cant camp wtf nerf bots!Literally you lmao
I really hate the quirky one liner death messages.
>>723591856Not much of an AI if you're just talking about chess engines
>>723592439Oh yeah that just happened
>>723563924>looks greatIt looks like Safe Concord
>>723590268the original plot was a coop pve game but they cant be arsed to change the whole plot to make PVP fit in the story
show trees
>>723564281>I need to play against braindead AI to have any sort of funThat's me. No money from me to let 12 year old twitchy ADHD kiddies have a good time kicking my ass.
>>723592436I actually hope they double/triple the bots so I can throw lure grenades at people in buildings.
I'm gonna play Marathon beta test just to see how shit it is, I have to know firsthand.
>>723592175>>723592365You're both pathetic retards.
>>723592178but it makes it harder for you to kill too so youre just back on the same page
>Extraction shooter thread devolves into mindless shitposting Every time lmao
>the enemies are too bullet spongey!Stop using the wrong ammo type and stop shooting their armor.Drones get flipped and die if you destroy 2/4 of their rotors.Light ammo isn't doing anything unless hitting unarmored weakpoints. So leave anything but wasps alone really.Hornet's back rotors are unarmored so go for those first.Turrets can be onetapped with just an impact grenade so if you can, just do that.If you need/want to kill the stronger robots bring a heavy ammo weapon(you can craft the ferro if you don't have one), and shoot its weak points. The ferro onetaps unarmored rotors.I'm 90% sure the direct underside of a rotor is unarmored and can just be damaged, but its hard to actually test that, but if you're stick with a pea shooter and being cornered it doesn't hurt to try.
The AI is still way overtuned from the beta. They're seriously more lethal than other raiders.
>>723593276the rocket drone will tank 50+ sniper shots on each rotorthis game is untested garbage
>>723593362No it won't, I took one down while cheesing it from inside a building with far less shots. You were missing your shots.
>try the game out>realize 90% of the retards in this thread are actually dogshit at video gameswhy does this always happen regardless of game
>>723592605As opposed to risky concord?
>>723593276I tried the ferro gun which says is heavy ammo but it doesn't do anything to them and takes 10 seconds to put another shot in. But when I pull out my light ammo machine gun they go down in 5 seconds. Explain that
>>723593362the cluster nade does 166dmg per rocket with 12 rockets on it, they can die for sure
>>723593458you were shooting an entirely different dronethe rocket drone has absurdly more health than the others
>See youtube video essays about how this amazing game will change gaming>it's the most generic and mediocre slop imaginableI will disregard the opinion of anyone who shilled this slop
Some anon in another was saying more extraction games need an actual open air flea market where you can sell your shit to people in person and I agree with him honestly.
When will pvptards and pvptard devs realize any game pvp game is gonna die unless it reaches the normie audience
>>723593657Your spray and pray was doing a better job of pegging the rotors than your slow aiming?>>723593729Anon I am not literally retarded, it shot rockets at me, when I pinged it, it was called "Rocketeer"
>>723593771too hard for indians to code, please understandbest we can do is UE5 1:1 clone of tarkov #9572
>>723593362You can see how much life drones have in the after raid screen. There is no way you're getting 50 good hits (2000 damage with a ferro) before killing a rocketeer, a drone that has fucking 400 hp.
>>723580934There are tons of extraction shooters, hell, just in this next fest alone there are like 4 other extraction shooters.People don't talk about them because they all fucking died after a month or 2.
>>723593517I look forward to seeing you post "I spent $40 and the game was so good, why did it die" in the threads mocking this game in 2 weeks.You are very likely underaged, so you don't know what a good or bad video game is. This is one of your first video games other than Roblox. It's only natural that it would be new and good to you.
>>723593820>Your spray and pray was doing a better job of pegging the rotors than your slow aiming?Then what's the point of heavy ammo
>>723593771>we need more RMT so players can funnel all the best gear to streamers JuSt LiKe TaRkOv
>>723563924The core combat and looting mechanics are like 6/10. The art style is an uninspired 4/10. Almost as bad as Concord.
>>723594013>frogposter with a /lit//frog (pseudboard)>thinking his opinion on quality matters
>>723594013Hes telling the truth tho, this board is all casual scum that doesnt actually plays video games, they just complain all daygame is fun as fuck, the gunplay is tight and satisfying to land shots
>>723594047Not what I said but I'm sorry that happened or whatever
>>723594045Being able to actually reliably kill anything other than wasps?
>Be Tarkov>Be considered the peak PvPvE extraction shooter>People ask for PvE>Seal clubbers get mad>Tarkov dying>Devs give in and put in PvE mode >Second coming of Tarkov game is saved >Seal clubbers even more mad>Be Arc>PvPvE>We all know what comes next
>>723594013I think Arc Raiders will find it's audience just like Hunt eventually did. There is clearly a demand for pvpve extraction shooters but Tarkov is run by criminally incompetent developers and played only by cheaters.
>The Cycle: Frontier is sure to be the next big thing!>Hyenas is a blast!>Concord looks to be the next big IP!>The Finals is looking really fun and unique!>ARC: Raiders is looking hella lit, senpai!
>>723564281you are delusional if you actually think the biggest issue people have with extraction slop is the fact you have to play with other people
>>723594251What's the PvE mode like?
>>723594047Consider this.>streamer wants a free epic purple blimbo blaster>loads into The Bazaar(tm)>starts looking for the guy whos trying to trade it to him>someone see his username and recognizes hes a streamer>*ting ting ting* "Ahem. NIGGERNIGGERNIGGER">streamer banned from twitch for daring to broadcast the forbidden word
>>723594230You want free market to trade with players, these always (yes always) turn into vectors for real money trading and scamming for fake items. You're fucking retarded for even suggesting it.
>>723594269i doubt it only reason the playtest its remotable playable is because unlike the previous closed tests you cant craft snipers or heavy shields and there is enough retards that actually play pve and try to loot, expect the release to be a massive campfest around extraction as all the pvers quit, third person extraction shooters is a retarded idea because you can be fully behind buildings or bushes and abuse the camera to peek without risking yourself, it will get very old the moment the casuals quit
>>723592743Going for the 10 points on the left in Mobility, then going for field crafting in the red tree cause I definitely run out of bandages/shields sometimes in long sessions.
>>723594386RMT always happens and the risk of scams is part of the experience IMO. Caveat emptor!
>>723593734Technically the enemies and sound design is special. Most games don't have dynamic sound systems like this (they just play 1 sound clip regardless of where you are, or load 2 for one outside and one inside, Arc is dynamic and changes the sound based on multi factors).The enemies also uses AI to animate, which is why the spider can lose limbs and still move around and look good rather than it being a set animation which clips/fucks itself up. The air units also do this, so when you pop one of the jets off they fly sporadically but its simulated not just the same animation over and over. That indie Rain World did the same thing, but not as technically impressive. Rest of the game, garbage. Lets be honest PvPvE extraction doesn't mean shit this isn't special as a concept. You need depth which means mountains of content to get into, a reason to play. Instead you just enter, grab rubber/plastic/metal and leave to upgrade increasingly pointless crafting stations. Tarkov imo works because of the insane gun design system, which is basically your real 'character' that you build/develop as you play. It also means you get to 'collect' other players by taking their cool guns.
>>723594361Tarkov gunplay is pretty great so it works well and Scavs are always a threat if you're not sensible
I'm interested but still feel like this was a f2p game at some point and nexon forced a b2p model on it, cause it's still gonna have fucking premium currencies. Why do that to themselves? Unless the intent is 1st year b2p then they go f2p to maximize playercounts.
>>723594251>w-w-we saved Tarkov>by playing PVEholy shit you are retarded, why would a PVP player give a shit how many people are playing PVE? You didn't save shit.fucking PVEcucks and their inferiority complex, lmao.
>>723594613Scavs are also inside buildings, the inside threat in this game is kinda lame.
>>723594630>PVPucksFixed
>third person camera>in an extraction shooterperfect cocktail for the most obnoxious and cancerous optimal playstyle ever concieved
>>723594641I wonder if this was to allow for PvP. Players have 'safe' areas to PvP inside while outside is always bot heaven.
>>723564281FIRST POST BEST POST
It is now December, game is $30 for the holiday special.It is now January, game is $20, releases with a patch that softens mechanics for casuals.It is now February, 5% of the playerbase remains.It is now March, game is free to play and adopts the Fortnite clown show model.
>>723594691Because originally this was a 3 / 12 man PvE game with a focus on Monster Hunter like robot bosses.
>>723594691I'm getting flashbacks to MGO2 shotgun corner camping already.
>>723594627desu if they didn't rape the finals to death with monetization, I'd be surprised if they do with this. and the finals is somehow paying for itself as f2p via stupid expensive cosmeticsI do think they're gonna have to start making things prettier/more aesthetically pleasing to the average joe if they want to try that here though.
>>723594627You're correct. The original idea was a paid PvE game. Then it became a free to play extraction shooter. THEN they said its now buy to play extraction shooter.
>>723594748That actually sounds like fun, why did they pivot and make this shit?
>>723594849NEXON demanded it after playtests in the asian market flopped.
>>723594361Trash. Unofficial SPT-AKI is so much better that it's not even funny because it's moddable.
>>723594849Nexon forced them to do playtest and focus group on asia and the kids told them the game was boring and they would rather play pubg ( is why we got the 3rd person fps and the gun combat being totally different from what ex dice devs are experts on)
>>723594849What >>723594893 said. The asians thought the original play test was boring. This was also during the successful days of extraction shooters, so they forced them to switch.
>>723594819Fucking lawbreakers all over again.I mean, cliffy is a retard don't get me wrong but I think people will see just how hard nexon fucks over games now.
>>723594759you can see in the cosmetics video they have on they channel the white male is locked behind money
>guy gets the drop on me while im trying to breach a door>ohfuckohfuckohshit>start wildly lobbing all the nades i found in panic>he starts panicing>kill him with like 2 hp leftholy kek how did you fuck that up
>>723594627Embark seems to have some kind of hands-off policy with Nexon which is definitely unusual for that publisher. If Nexon was at the helm of Finals or Arc Raiders we know damn well the player models would look like korean kpop blowup dolls like in First Descendant, instead of the goblins we have now.
>survival game with crafting and autistic inventory managementfucks sake just gut this shitty faggotry and make a fun shooter fuck
>>723594984maybe he was friendly bro...
>>723595047he was literally shooting my back
>>723595035convinced nexon treats embark as their western focused developer, and they have accepted westerners LOVE androgyny and gritty grimy ugleh
>First match>"How did you enjoy this match?">Second>"How did you enjoy the PvE of this match?">Third>"How did you enjoy the PvP of this match?"You know a game is fucked when the devs are not sure what they're doing and who to appeal to.
>>723595047there's no friendlies in this gameeveryone is a rat
Night mode should be darker and they should give us laser attachments, that way you can freak out thinking you're safe then suddenly see lasers pop up on you.
>>723595164shitty creators in general care too much about what the audience thinks instead of just making good shit
>>723595174I ran into a random friendly the other day. I ran directly into him without noticing and he absolutely could have plugged me to death. When I started panic running and sliding behind cover he just prox chat said hes friendly, we ran through to domes and extracted together with him as 4th squad member.I'm lead to believe even that those huge robots the queen or whatever pretty much require the server to be working together and teaming to take it down. They really want the pve part to be happening.
>>723595265Exactly. Good game designers know what good games are and don't need to listen to the public (lol) on how to make a good game.
>>723563924Shill thread
>>723595240They need to tone down the atmosphere fog a ton, it makes seeing people in the "dark" stupid easy because they just get silhouetted by the fog.I'd love if night mode was true pitch black except for actual light sources.Kino of everyones head swiveling to when a bright flash goes off from someone blowing a drone out of the sky.
>>723595326>They really want the pve part to be happening.Doesn't matter what they want. This isn't how open PvP works ever. It will ALWAYS devolve into rats and exit campers with nothing but kill on sight inbetween. Because Fred who always says friendly will get killed multiple times in a row by KoS players, then become a KoS player.
>>723595326i've yet to see the big bot other than the rocket cunt because my teammates just run to the big building to get killed or sit to the extraction trying to catch peopleHow do they expect people to cooperate with friendly fire on?
>>723595431>I'd love if night mode was true pitch black except for actual light sources.that'd be kinoi feel like devs in general are afraid of making darkness actual "can't see SHIT" tier
>>723595521Blow your teammates head off if hes being gay. Friendly Fire is on.
>have a quest to go to a loot point>go to it>complete the quest>fill my pockets with some crafting junk>alright i guess ill leave>call the elevator>leavevideogames suck
>>723595537>>723595431>Have true dark>WTF I CANT SEE PEOPLE THIS IS BULLSHIT ALL THESE PLAYERS CAN GET PAST ME AND I CANT FIND THEM WTF!?>Nerfs darkness so now seal clubbers can club again
>>723595537One of the vendors even sells glowsticks, why can't they just let us have it>>723595607LET ME HAVE MY FUN
>>723595537>devs in general are afraid of making darkness actual "can't see SHIT" tiersome of the interiors are like that but, lets not make night vision goggles mandatory.
>>723595035As a maplestory afficionado (and nexon stockholder on the TYSE) I can explain.They were grooming soderlund for YEARS, as nexon hosted a ton of EA's online portals for games in korea (and were a publishing partner in china alongside tencent), and promised him a spot on the board of directors, his own studio, and more if he promised to break them into the western market where their biggest titles have been maplestory, combat arms, and then a handful of the mobile choose your own adventure dating game things that were popular like 10 years ago.It was late 2017 when they announced they had made an offer to soderlund to leave EA and join nexon under condition of networking and info-sharing (not like trade secrets but introducing nexon to western devs and smaller studios. Come 2018, BF5 came out, flopped, and he moved to nexon and founded embark. It was around this time his input helped nexon navigate a major upcoming legal scandal, helped push nexon to support project P3, as he saw extraction games (particularly tarkov at that time) were on the rise. This led to dark and darker which was a whole other thing but lmao you can read that up.Nexon since covid has been significantly hands off, largely thanks to soderlund, and has seen pretty big profit spikes because of it. They cancelled a shit ton of their indev projects that were doomed to fail after a 6 year stretch of ~1 year releases, that is to say, games that lasted less than one year after release. Something like 20 games nexon published ALL flopped, across mobile and pc. Now they're working on 3 projects at a time, teams are more coordinated, and they've tripled down on teams for major profitable IPs (maplestory, dnf, mabinogi[and vindictus which is mabinogi heroes], and supporting splinter studios (mintrocket, embark).It also really strengthened their EA support, they still service the only version of fifa (or fc now) in all of asia.
>>723595652>LET ME HAVE MY FUNChinks demanded this be a generic kill on sight extraction slopper too bad
>>723594893asians only play pubg
>>723595537>i feel like devs in general are afraid of making darkness actual "can't see SHIT" tieryou can't do this because dudes start cheating with disgusting monitor filters that let them see
>>723595746Just make NV only possible via something like the binocs, hell make them even worse than the binocs and give the 'display' of the NVs a noticeable delay/lag from real world so you can't just have one guy dedicated to pinging an enemy over and over so his team can blindfire
How do you switch quick use items without the wheel
>>723588440>>get smoked because I don't have 3K hours in previous extraction gamesI have like 2k hours in many extraction games yet I just died cause I got ambushed by one rat, two drones and one giant spider thing as a solo player. What the fuck am I supposed to do when everything focuses me? The other player was also making a fuckton of noise, why wouldn't the drones pick him as a target?Shit sucks solo unless you rat, and we all know ratting sucks ass.
>>723595981tapping q seems to cycle through themPSA there is a shooting range you can go to with a bunch of random grendaes/deployables in crates so you can test out. Go to the deploy screen and at the top of the map theres a training grounds you can deploy to.None of the ammo/durability of stuff you bring gets used up so go hogwild
this game is missing a lot of qol features, i get it's a beta but having 1 keybind per action in 2025 is ridiculous. It's also a headache trying to split items, like dropping ammo for a teammate or meds. Easier to just heal them yourself with right click at that point
>>723563924
>>723596095>it's a betait's not a beta. The game's gold, copies are on shelves, it's out in less than 2 weeks. They couldn't make meaningful changes even if they wanted to.
>>723564281YOU GOOD NIGGER?
>>723595751I see, you sound pretty informed about this. I suspected Nexon poached Sonderland from EA after the BFV advertising debacle but i didnt imagine it went deeper than that. EA and DICE especially is hurting losing him, BF6 has none of that world-class production value Embark is bringing now.
Should have made a helldivers clone instead of an extraction shooter. Best fun I had so far was teaming up with another team because we got fucking swarmed by drones and then we extracted together.Is there a downside to just always taking the free kit if all I am doing is looting for shit like arc alloy?
>>723596230I don't think it would work as well without stratagems/call ins.
>PvP extraction shooter>>>>>>>>>>>>>third personLOL
>>723596230There is no downside to taking the free kit, you can even trade in your ugly box to buy an actual loadout box at one of the traders.
>>723596138what the fuck? The grid inventory and UI management is also fucking awful too, no way they are charging $40 for this. If it was a f2p title I would probably give it a week of my time playing it
These kind of games just fucking suck dick on eu servers, everyone is too autistic to speak or they're a kill on sight russo-slavoid demihuman. You amerifats have no idea how good you have it being able to play online games with actual people instead of living bots
>>723564526I regret buying deluxe version buy i could see getting over 60 hours on it, have too much to play lately...
>>723594849There's absolutely no shortage of 3rd person co-op PvE games. This would be just another mediocre addition to the pile. Now this is arguably best extraction shooter on the market (mostly because there's literally no competition after massive Bungie flop).
>killing AI is a waste of ammo>flares launch when downed telling the whole map it's time to 3rd party>extractions loud as fuck and take ages to open>ttk is long enough that headshots don't matter and it's just "who has more shield rechargers">3rd person so you can peek while completely hiddenIt's like they went out of their way to promote the rat playstyle that everyone hates. I honestly cannot see this game being relevant after 3 months.
>just got 3rd person blasted for the first time by someone hiding round a corner waiting for me to come down a hallwayepic
>>723596657less than 50 players after 1 monthend of service after some failed updates in 1yr
>>723596652>3rd person extraction shooter>best extraction shooter on the marketare you retarded?
anyone know how many players spawn in a match, and how many extracted during the game? I don't want to be running around 10 minutes in if everyone's already left the game
>>723595431fog? where have you seen fog? I haven't come across that yet.And whatever you think gives people away because graphics, guaranteed there's someone who's running lowest settings so that and foliage won't hide you anyway.
>>723596657>>flares launch when downed telling the whole map it's time to 3rd partyintentional design to make PVP higher risk, and give players more reason to cooperate
>>723596792atmosphere fog aka antisoul gas, not real ground clinging fog but just a grey hazing in the distance to hide LOD and I believe *try* and prevent infinity range sniping
>>72359678530 min mapplayers continuously spawn in to fill slots until 15 min remainapparently it's 21 player in trios and maybe slightly less in solos
>>723596952There is no difference between a trio/duo/solo lobby. You will routinely fight people in bigger/smaller groups regardless of what you queue as.
>>723596657>ttk is long enough that headshots don't matterlmao, try walking up>just "who has more shield rechargers"if your shield runs out of durability you can t heal it, or repair it, so there is a limit, which is like 5 breaks
>>723597061I've never once seen a full team in solos across both playteststhey say it can combine queues but that's only going to happen when the player base dies and it will have bigger problems at that point
>>723597146I nonstop run into trios as both a solo and a duo. I also regularly kill solo players (or at least people who seem to have no teammates) as a trio.
>>723596839>we deliberately chose to punish people for PvPing in the PvP gameinteresting strat, will be fun to read about the studio closure next year
Anyone want to stalk players in game? We won't shoot them until we see them extracting.Must have binoculars
>>723597245pvevpwhat flavor of third world are you?
>>723596773What's the issue here? 3rd person PvP isn't a new concept.
>>723597395see >>723596713
>>723597332>what flavor of third world are you?i'm a wealthy, blue eyed, white american. also would use you as a condom in this game, or any shooter.looking forward to reading your whining posts about the game EOSing in a year
>>723597489>EOSouted yourself as a SEAmonkey brownoid
>>723597436Prime example of skill issue. If game was in 1st person he would die same way because the other guy would hear approaching footsteps. Just avoid shitty routes.
combat is fucked because if you don't have enough friends around for a full squad you get outnumbered every fight. the ttk for every gun I've picked up so far is way too low to take on more than one person at a time, unlike something like tarkov where you can solo squads if you're cracked. never thought I'd say this but the game could benefit from a fortnite-like system that categorises gamemodes based on team sizes unless they want to change the gunplay to something that allows me to kill more than one person per magazine.
>>723597819ttk is way too high*, silly chud me
>>723592175/v/ is full of these pve porn addicts afraid of conflict. So pathetic really.
>>723597580NTA but you do know that it means end of service, right? Are you the SEAmonkey nigger?
>>723598001>n-no u!I know what it means you fucking retard that's why I called it outLiterally no one refers to a game flopping or dying or shutting down as "eos" other than gachanigger SEAmonkeys
I had more fun with Escape from Duckov than this playtest desu
>>723597764>shitty routesis an extraction shooter retard, what do you think will happen on release when people can craft snipers, do you think anyone will bother looting instead of camping the extraction spots
And what of good Arena Breakout?>>723598234
>>723598339I SHAPOSE THASH OFF THE TABLE ASH WELL
Why did they downgrade the game bros... TT2 was so much better..
>>723598147Dumb nigger
>>723598339your chinese asset flip is cancer and you should kill yourself
>>723598552ook eek la
>>723598519what's different?
>>723598552
>>723598587they had a cooler looking map for fun over "mood" for one
>>723598587Graphics are noticeably downgraded. (Textures, particles, random gamey stuff.)Atmosphere is worse.Sound is worse.Lighting is worse and leaks through walls.AI feels spongier and hits harder.Mechanically guns were rebalanced and feel worse.Shield recharging is different and not as loud / slow.Can't change shields in map. Augments are shit.Less visual effects, more bugs, shittier visuals and clutter.Somehow the size of this test is larger than TT2 with less content.I can go on and on.
>>723598587They definitely toned down the visuals in some places, probably for console performance but also overall performance.
>>723598254>what do you think will happen on release when people can craft snipershttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZFIq0XMt2_s>3rd person>Everyone has a sniper rifleWorks in Sniper Elite. Why would work in Arc Raiders?
>>723599046The previous test ran fine.
>>723599095Because its an extraction shooter you mongoloid, if you cant see this game is gonna die the moment the casual are gone you are extremely retarded and not just ragebaiting see >>723594691this is gonna be the meta and the game doesnt even have wipes so its gonna be exactly as dead as tarkov before they do wipes
Extraction shooters will never solve the casual problem.
>>723599226I trust Embark considering how well designed The Finals is. Meanwhile you're just a couch expert who never shipped a game.
You are just an extreme retard that doesn't understand why this extraction mechanic combined with 3rd person camera will kill the game extremely quickly, its not like they did not have other options like copying what Hunt: Showdown does
>>723599351or the insecure faggots that think playing these games makes them a gigachad in real life
Why is Night Raid always greyed out?How can I do this?
>>723599642Is it night time yet?
>>723599508Yeah man these people who are career game developers with decades of experience didn't think of that at all.. If only they had your insight...
>>723599701I don't know I just got home. Does it only happen in in game night time? How do I check without actually going on a raid?
>>723599226>The moment the casuals are goneAnon, this is an extraction game *for* the casuals.
sweaty autistic faggots already seething
man this would have been great with the old boomer classic mode control the zone. Also 9 players feels a bit too small.
>>723579238I used the rare tier grenade of which i dont recall the name, but it basically splits and has 12 rockets that home in onto the ARCs, you gotta get lucky to find one. Also i dont quote me on the accuracy, but the grenade-rockets did like 2.400 xp and they hit it in the back where it has apparently a weak spot. After i had to take like 10-15 more shots with the ferro not, so its like 3500xp~hp to take it down roughly, which equals like 40 ferro shots??? You re better off finding that grenade. Also another tip is so hide sonewhere at the edges of the map while fighting it so that other players wont bother u >>723582306Pro tip: i take 2 shields+recharge and swap them out in combat if i have time
>>723599642That's the cooldown for it no?
>>723599740>career game developerswith 0 experience launching succeful extraction shooters, they were forcerd into this as the game was originally a pve looter shooter>Not a single succeful developer that has ever been involved on extraction shooter has ever come and said you know what 3rd person camera is the way!
>>723599508why are you seething so much about 3rd person lol
>>723563924I have done 3 rounds and only had 1 single pvp experience which was me getting 2 shot.The only real thing that impressed me was the sound
This game looks pretty cinematic at times, you can feel there's something breathing beneath whatever the higher ups wanted to turn their game into (sell cosmetics and battlepasses)
>>723600019>seethinglmao
>>723563924this game is tranny coded
Is it just me or is it impossible to see anything unless it's right infront of you? I try to "Scope out" the landscape and see for other players but I can't see it. It's also because of the 3rd person camera.
If you get snuck up from behind by someone with a melee weapon, that should automatically down you. Thoughts
>>723600276I can see pretty well, are you sure you don't have view distance up? I use the binoculars and I can see pretty far
>>723563924test
>>723600342Retarded. Makes ratting even more powerful than it already is.
>>723600342just take a shotgun if you want to do that
>>723600426now tell me how often people have gotten that physically close to you without alerting you and risk using their melee rather than shooting you on their on-sight reflexes. I'm betting its a .01%tile of players who even attempt this
>>723599740>Appeal to authority argumentGame design is three parts. Art, programming and game theory. They have talented artists, and some good programmers, but no one has any idea on game theory. The evidence of this is the fact the game switched from pure PvE F2P, to free PvP, to now paid PvPvE. That shows a complete lack of ability to plan ahead and understand what makes a good game. There is also the current state of the game itself which is riddled with balance issues that make going in naked (ratting) better than going in geared and camping exits more profitable than exploring.
>>723600540All the time. In buildings with third person its piss easy to get behind people combined with how long looting takes.
>>723600625post a webm
>>723563924>Extraction shooter>3rd person wall peeking>diablo loot systemLmfao
>>723600374It's more of the 3rd person camera making it very awkward. When you right click it gives you an awkward view, when you just try and walk and move the camera it's awkward.
>>723600374Not him but I bring binocs with me everytime and is there anything I can do to make them less fucking awful? sometimes its easier to see without them than with them.
>>723600652Oh shut the fuck up you troll
>>723600661>3rd person wall peekingThis.It's garbage,
>>723599920I think if Shield Swap gets popular, even with 1% of the top playerbase like streamers, they will nuke it just like Apex did.
>>723600661>>723600828>Be at an exit>You have a massive advantage against anyone who comes to that exit because you will see them and they have 0 way of seeing you>Have been able to obliterate squads by just being unseen until its too late for them to do anything I unironically think the only solution is for the free kit to have a wall hack grenade, that reveals all players in a wide area.
>weapons are all cobbled together pipe guns>loot is 90% recycled trash for craftingis this fallout 4
>>723600948idk why the humans didn't just salvage the robot weapons and shoot lasers back at them
>>723575179Buy an ad, faggot.
>make extraction shooter>release open beta with 1 map and no progression These retarded devs just exposed the biggest flaw with extraction shooters, the pointless endgame.>b-b-but there's much more content in the full gameyes they add a hundreds of hours of grind to get to this exact same spot of pointlessness.Embark are the masters of self sabotage. I couldn't imagine a worse way to market this game than this gimped "server slam"
where do you find keycards for locked doors?
>>723601323RNG from containers really. I've found some but for maps not in this version. Last time though, the loot didn't feel THAT much nicer but maybe it was poor luck
>>723601323you can buy one for $9000 at the tradersi found materials to craft them but I think you cant do that yet because you need to upgrade one of the other workbenches to craft it.no idea where you find the ones in the loot zones.
>>723598587TTK way too low, whoever spots the other person first wins unless they're absolute dogshit.
>>723600661>>723600828Yeah exactly.>Played last two tests for Arc Raiders>Walk into building>Go down hallway>Some random fucko pops out and guns me down in .5 seconds>Wow that's bullshit>Load into next game>Do the same thing to some random guy who walks into my building>All I could think was, "Wow this sucks"There is a fucking reason why people don't make "hardcore" 3rd person shooters.>Remember that this was supposed to be a PvE game about shooting robots, but they changed it to "fit the market"Into the trash it goes
>>723563924>females think all the faces are trannies except the Asian one
I genuinely don't understand complaints about third person wall peaking, as if you don't also have the option to do it. Imo 3rd person will always be more interesting than first
>>723590253The problem is it just encourages camping.If getting sight on someone does not risk exposing yourself also, then you can readily shadow someone/a group until they are exposed and get the drop on them.Their capacity to do the same to you does not apply, because you ALWAYS maintain initiative by picking the angle their camera affords 0 benefit.It's absolutely a skill issue - but one that encourages sitting in a perfect vantage like a rat until someone is dumb enough to expose themselves and ultimately become the hunted.To avoid the situation sight depends on exposing yourself to being spotted alsoElse its rats hunting rats, the most retarded of games.
>>723600805>It happens to me all the time>can I see>uhhthen just say you're lying
>>723601537>I genuinely don't understand complaints about [shitty game mechanic]>As if you don't also have the option to use [shitty game mechanic]Imagine thinking like this.
>>723601537>abusing third person is ok because you everyone can do itThird person is always dogshit for pvp games
>>723601776Nah
>>723601537>as if you don't also have the option to do it.That's the issue, the game promotes a campfest
>>723600915Oh man if only there was a solution...
>>723601537>as if you don't also have the option to do it.Incredibly retarded post. As expected from someone who prefers 3rd person.
I never thought I'd say this, but the fucking Division games have better PvP than this game. I've only been in a few fights in this game so far, but it's so slow and clunky. It's just like The Division, when you ads, you pretty much are at a stand still. The shit guns, the clunky movement, wtf do people see in this game.
any forgiving extractions shooters?
>>723602003that's probably because division has weapons that you can just left click and spam with auto fire. This, you have to be picky because you either don't have the ammo capacity or ammo itself.The movement could use some work though
>>723602094Only the singleplayer ones like Forever Winter or the new meme duck game that just came out
>>723602094DMZ? You can easily get new loot if you lose it all and the map sizes, gun variation and AI are all fun.
>>723602175what did they do to get mixed from very positive?
>>723601842>I don't like this cause it lets them see me around corners>I refuse to use the same mechanics I have easy access to to also see around corners>You're a retard for thinking I should
>>723602175>early accessmaybe when it actually is "released"
Nexon must pay well for this level of shilling. This has to be the most overhyped and overrated game I've ever played.
>>723563924I've had some fun with the test, but it definitely doesn't seem worth anywhere near 40 bucks to me. The looting and inventory management is incredibly tedious, and there isn't a whole lof of incentive to pvp unless you spawn near a high-traffic zone. The stamina system also feels needlessly restrictive, especially given how punishing the pve can be. For a glorified demo, I'd also think they would be a lot less stingy/restrictive with the cool shit the game has to offer. Lastly, the setting is pretty uninteresting to me, but that's not a big issue if the gameplay is good. It's disappointing because I'm a big Finals/Hunt enjoyer, but I'll check back in a year and keep an eye out for a sale.
>>723602415>just camp around a corner like everyone elseSounds like a lot of fun
>>723565168He's too retarded to understand how paid service dynamics both fuck your game's prestige progression, gives chinkoid career cheaters a huge profit margin and fails to gatekeep thirdies among other issues.>>723580293>>723568141Embark seems to be the exact opposite of blizzard, where the gameplay design is actually breddy gud, but their art department produces pure dogshit.
>>723602384It's not really a video game yet.
>>723602468>content gold mine: the game>content creators having a rush It's really that simple.
>>723594225>the gunplay is tight3rd person with bloom will never be 'tight'
>>723564526>flavor of the monthIts streamer flavor of the month. Game has like 20k people playing it or something. thats not flavor thats borderline dead game. Every streamer is desperate for a game to play after the drought of games the past few years.
>>723601481Yeah. Its usually either I spot them first and dumpster them or they spot me and win. Very rarely theres a fight where we disengage and reengage.People are gonna play this trash because they'll think if they just progress and unlock x y z then they can craft better stuff and win. But its not really gonna be the case. Going in is like gambling.
its fun, i might get it as a nice time killer but i dont see it as like amazing 10/10; ill probably put in a couple dozen hours and forget about itI hope it does well enough for them to add a co-op pve mode against the robots though because feels like it'd be way more interesting as a co-op game
>>723602415You're so incapable of understanding a very basic point, even after other posters explained it (and got ignored), that I must assume you're trolling and stop replying.
>>723602910Im not reading the entire thread. Saw some bitching, made a comment.
>>723602761
>>723602719>Theyre doing it for the contentI refuse to believe anyone can call this game a masterpiece with getting paid for it, you can make content without the blatant shilling.
>find loot like picrel>says you need level 2 gunsmith bench to make them>requires full game>why even show me this
>>723602415If you camp a corner, you cannot be seen until they are already sucking on your gun's barrel. There is no counterplay to this other than throwing grenades randomly
>>723563924It's good with friends, OK with trio randos who are good at the game, bad as solo.There's lack of gun balance, shotguns are useless, they should dominate close range but TTK is so long that people can swivel and headshot with enough time to lazer you down.It's fun and tense when you escape by the skin of your teeth but feelsbadman if you spend ages looting and go down.Looting is disappointing, loot rooms that require keys and larger tougher enemies give awful loot.The graphics are actually pretty good, the performance for what you get is really great I'm all Epic settings 4k at quality DLSS at about 60fps steady on a 3080. The sound design is amazing, environmental sounds reverb well and has that BC2 feel, and they actually matter for sneaking (metal grating, gravel, flocks of birds, car alarms) all attract attention.Looting felt good when you had base items to craft but feels bad when it's all maxed and it's just a pain to manage with no QoL for managing loot like quick recycles. It's hard to say what end game will look like, I figure going after the queen and other world bosses with other teams will be it.I preorderd the base game, I'm hoping to get £30 worth before sweats kill it which they will do if it lasts more than 6 months.
>>723563924>The game looks great, performs really well for UE5As you've said already, the extraction shooter genre just sucks ass too much, it's a shame this genre somehow took off in big studios, because I can't think of it ever gaining any mass appeal
>>723603128>find blueprint>item you can't craft>find key>map you can't access>all other loot is just miscellaneous trash
>Combat aug>Blue shields that are fucking huge compared to greens>Anvil or ferro + smg/ venator/etc>quick use filled with shield regen stacks and deployable wallsYep, it's metanigger time.
>>723602384They overhauled the gay ass real time water system a while ago and now it's a type of currency that you spend to go out on raids.
>>723603179>*throws arc lure*nutin personnel
>>723583964Into the Breach 1 and 2, stupid frogposter
>>723564281>to english>le badlol
>>723603179Makes sense, but then why even "try" a third person game if you know you'll hate these mechanics? lolI personally do not care, nor do I even bother camping like this, and I've found it to be fun. Same with other third person games I've enjoyed.
>>723587286it runs well on my ancient PC, not to mention the game is simulating a lot of physics
i'd play it some more but, after realizing that nothing in the test is gonna carry over I kinda stopped feeling like it
>>723594270>>The Cycle: Frontier is sure to be the next big thing!who?>>Hyenas is a blast!nobody said that>>Concord looks to be the next big IP!only deluded suits said that>>The Finals is looking really fun and unique!and it is fun and unique>>ARC: Raiders is looking hella lit, senpai!it does
>>723603258>feelsbadman if you spend ages looting and go downfor me it's>crafting nice gear for myself only to lose it all>>723603258>It's fun and tense when you escape by the skin of your teethi had fun making peace with a stranger and then extracting together in a close call (i'm told being down but not out lets you extract)but overall i feel like i'm experiencing more pain than fun so i might not get the full game
>>723604032Same. I put in 10 hours. Did all the quests. But nothing carrying over kinda sapped my will to play. I am excited for release though.I have a friend who is just still going at it, but I don't wanna burn myself out on it.
>>723604047>character is a niggera stark reminder that only sub-80-IQ individuals play these consoleslop third-person shooters
>>723604154Mines an asian guy :D
so how will they deal with extract campers just sitting there in third person peeking the corner safely
>>723604154i'm not a niggeri picked the asian male face you just cant see it there
>>723604047>an ugly mutt with a ghostbusters backpack americans are gonna eat this shit up
>>723599226The game tells you the $ value of the loadout you take, does anyone know if this is used in match making balance. The few times me and my friends have gone hella kitted out, the other players seem to have as well. Presumably that value in the inventory is there for a reason.This anon is right, the problem with any game with PvP elements, especially one with negative feedback loops like weapon quality is that the casuals lose more and more and eventually leave, and the game is just full of sweats. They need to really make sure there skill gaps on the servers is tight.
>>723604260they won't, the game will just die and the industry still won't learn that making default UE5 TPSes is not how you do a pvp shooter
>>723604306Nice.
>>723604508yeah that's why fortnite died huh
>>723604597fortnite is a BR that forces you to constantly move around the map. also blew up during the pandemic during a game drought.anyway, there are always dullards like you who buy every $40 failed game, no point arguing
>get downed while moving between POIs from 50 miles away by some faggot in some bushes who you could never possibly see>repeat x1000I'll be honest I don't get the appeal
qrd on what makes this not derivative slop? its not evident to me from the visuals
my predictions for Arc Raiders>day 130k players (mostly from streamer FOMO)>day 30900 players, devs promising big updates>day 90200 players, game goes f2p>day 270After a beautiful run, we regret to say that we will be ending service for Arc Raiders. Thank you to everyone who joined us for this journey. We can't be sure what's next for our studio here at Embark, but stay tuned for updates.
>>723601431I found a dam key which we successfully used, and which it's a high concentration of loot, there wasn't anything actually that good. I know you can get epics and blueprints in the game as I've found both. But all harder loot to get (inside of locked rooms, or dead Arc enemies, like the large spider) are extremely disappointing.
>>723604875Arc Raiders is going to get over 100,000 players on launch and you will seethe
>>723604983will be screenshotting your post and posting it in arc raiders what went wrong threads on /v/ in the future. thank youcould you post something else like "Arc Raiders is literally going to be the next fortnite. All indications are it will be the biggest new game."
>>723564281fibby pibbyarc is dogshit because it uses dumb simplified super gamey weapons, has a shit art style, is third person only and misses the mark on risk vs. reward, not because it's an extraction shooter
>>723604875day one will be inflated because the game has been bundle with nvidia gpus like borderlands 4, i do expect to die very quickly but it will come down to how much is the $40 sunk cost fallacy hold the casuals beyond the first weeks after the streamers stop being paid to shill it
>>723583964https://store.steampowered.com/app/1491410/Eternal_Strands/You may think, "Hol' up, this cast is very suspicious" and you'd be god damn right, but it's still far more tame than the characters you encounter in Arc Raiders.
>>723605035>fortnite fortnite fornitewhat the fuck is with these anti-shills and bringing up fortnite?are you 12?
>>723564281translation from female (penis, but never called a male) language>i can't wait to be in the same match as my favorite streamer
How long until it's overrun by cheaters like Tarkov?
>>723601664he doesnt have to prove anything to a retard that doesn't play videogames on the videogame board.
>>723605273shouldn't take too long. linuxkeks can already bypass the anticheat so it's easy going from there
>>723605273the cycle: frontier had cheating on day 1, and it got more and more intense (all chinese names btw) until the game shut down primarily from cheating
>>723605458most cheaters are winbabs doebeit
>>723605425this is an A and B conversation, so C you're way out...
>>723605273it already doeshttps://files.catbox.moe/kq2scd.mp4
>>723605458>>723605576>>723605631Great news for my wallets. You bros just saved me 40 eurobucks, thanks
>>723605585yeah no. linuxtrannies cheat like crazy. tf2 getting linux support caused it to be literally destroyed with linux cheating and botting networks using github repos from page1 of google
>>723605048I miss RS2 so much man
>>723604980i found a pink quality item in the first lootcrate next to my western spawn by the old battlefield. i guess you can get them anywhere. i found a green shotgun in the southeast loot zone the one that says medical area. it was just in a filing cabinet drawer.
>>723604047>crafting nice gear for myself only to lose it allIt's less bad when you have a shit ton of loot and crafting new weapons with full weapon mods, shields and bandages can be sustained. But once it gets sweaty I doubt this will stay that way for long.>i had fun making peace with a strangerNever done this yet. Game theory dictates this is generally not smart unless you can reputation track over multiple encounters, which in this game you cant. So I doubt it will happen much.>i'm told being down but not out lets you extractYup. If you can crawl into the lift you can use the computer to escape like normal, so in solo if bots down you while you're waiting for extract lift you can still escape if there's no enemies, Arc bots go friendly again when you're DBNOI felt the same way when i first played, largely because i had a small sample size of rounds and mostly as solo, if you havnt already try queuing with open party for random trios and use you mic and say hello, met some really cool people doing that, who I had a laugh with.
>>723605631lmao, that's like found footage of someone with super powers
what the fuck is a sprint dodge roll and how do i perform recovery roll after falling
>>723606721Alt to dodge rollYou sprint then dodge roll and its a sprint dodge roll>recovery rollI imagine its also alt but I actually don't know
>>723605631H-HAYAI
>>723581654>figures, the only time a UE5 game runs well is when a special Nvidia branch of itIt's because the nVidia branch unfucks the Lumen performance hit that fucks 10 series cards hard.
>>723606141From what I understand you can get pretty rare loot from everywhere including the outskirts of the map, but it's just way more rare. I've had loads of pinks, 3 of the pink weapon kit, keycards, grips, and a few other bits and bobs. And one epic (an orange), as well as many guns a load of which were greens.But you'd think they'd be more or less guaranteed in loot that's hard to get, like off dead high end Arc, and in locked rooms. But it doesn't feel like it, the best we got were regular blue trash.Calling in supply drops and getting the batteries to the loot machines dotted around the map are just as good desu, if not a bit more weapon focused.
>>723583964Just play tarkov pve
