is Bannerlord good yet?
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Fuck no. It's not even on Warband level features-wise
>>723600025The X4 approach to game design
>>723599294if you install the mod that heals you when you hit enemies and play as a one man army or merry band of companions slaughtering entire armies then yesotherwise no
It's kind of funny how Bannerlord was one of those sequels that was such a disappointment it basically killed any Mountain Blade discussion as a whole. I never see /v/ talk about the old games anymore.
>>723599294No, Warband still is better
>>723600368>watching /mbg/ finally die after a decade of stagnation because bannerlord was so midsad yet funny
I'm just waiting for the DLC to start playing again. I'm also considering playing the Lotr mod since I just watched the films for the first time in like 15 years, but I probably won't
>>723600556I only play it for the Rome mod
Your Majesty. Where the hell is War Sails?
I'm waiting for the old realms update. Nothing else compares.
Dunno what you're talking about. Warband was mid, Bannerlord is great. The only problem is the drought in new content.
>>723599294I think it's on par with vanilla warband now with the new big update that adds diplomacy and more things to do as a king. I think you can actually hire patrols now and stuff like that, and convince your allies to wage war with you or pay off neutrals to go to war for you.I don't really know what vanilla+ Warband added besides that kind of stuff, maybe a more sophisticated economy. I think the update also made the caravan economy better so things like towns running out of food during sieges matters a lot more. Now that they added the basis for diplomacy and forming patrols and all that, we can mod vanilla+ ourselves. Then the only thing left after that is to just re-skin the game to suit your fantasies. Not much else the devs can add for a game like this other than an abundance of subjective roleplay features. Let us build our own towns and forts, roleplay as the richest kingdom that everyone else wants wants curry favor with as you host constant tournaments and butter parties for the nobles, let us build a manor that we can have elegant noble gatherings at to meet and greet notable lords and ladies. A game like M&B requires hundreds of small features that all add up to build onto the RP experience.
>>723600368Ok Bannerlord may be bad but its not Season 8 of Game of Thrones bad
>>723600368What redditification and consolitation do to a francise.
>>723599294unironically has gotten worse with each update because of the console version
>>723599294Depends, is Shokuho out yet?
>>723599294There are people that delayed their suicides for this game. Poor bastards.
>>723605156*blocks your path*
>>723599294Are they still breaking mods with weekly patches?
^lol lmao even
>>723600160Don't tell me X4 is STILL worse than X3?
>>723600556Why? Just play Viking Conquest. Knowing those turkroach devs I guarantee you, it's more fun than the DLC is gonna be.
>>723600368I watched it happen in real time with Dragon's Dogma 2.
I honestly enjoy it quite a bitwhat pisses me off the the shitty devs do whatever the fanbase asks for, like right now the biggest thing theyre adding is diplomacy because the double digit IQ fanbase decided to beg ceaslessly for features that will add nothing of value to the game and dont even get me started on muh ships. useless trash. but seriously apparently the drought in content is because there was already supposed to be a dlc out but they canceled it and now a bunch of features are being released for free
all they have to do to get me to play it is to remove its skill system and put the warband one in instead
>>723602397>Not much else the devs can add for a game like thisgod i hate this fanbase so much
>>723599294no>>723600025>not even as good as Warband+Diplomacy after 3 yearsfucking grim
>>723599294are workshops fucntioning yet?
>>723599294Did they fix the >beat army>lord escapes your dungeon and day later>comes back with a full army It becomes repetitive after you beat the same guy 10 times during a war. You get to the point that you kill everyone and take the penalty vs the alternative
Reinstallan'Not sure what build to run this time
>>723600368neo/v/ doesn't talk about good games.
>>723600368it was more fun posting 'bannerlord when' than playing bannerlord unfortunately
>>723599294no updates can fix bannerlord, everything about the game just feels wrong
>>723613489I think the core of the battles is decentif you gutted the game and reworked it a lot you could make something good with itwonder if their engine is available
>>723613383man, bannerlord really doesn't have this soul for its sieges. I don't think I've enjoyed a single bonerlord siege.
>>723613383this is so dull now that I think about it
>>723600025delusional retard
>>723599294Yes if you install Old Realms.
>>723615189Nigga whatSieges were the worst part of Warband. Don’t tell me you actually liked standing in front of a single tiny ladder and just spamming overhead attacks with your two-hander for half an hour
>>723600556All the best and most essential mods are no longer being updated. You have to wind back your game just to get butterlib and shit to work. This DLC will kill bannerlord mods in the same way Skyrim getting an update fucks mods up.
>>723616408qrd
>>723616519>UhSieges in the last days mod were good because of map design. Goblintown was perfect
>>723616408QRD
>>723612708supposedly 1.3 will be improving workshops
>>723616519>standing in front of a single tiny ladder and just spamming overhead attacks with your two-hander for half an houri actually did enjoy this for the rush of seeing my two handed increase alot
>>723616519you do the same in bannerlord pretty much aside from the occasional catapulting and firebombing thoughbeit
>>723613489gotta disagree. i think it would actually be extremely easy to fix Bannerlord and turn it into a genuine 10/10>Clan relationship is now an average of your relationship with the clans members >implement the basic social aspects from warband Ie. charachters mocking you for running away and harming your refashions, or congratulating you, or reminiscing about fighting in battle with you etc., stuff like some lords just plain not liking you by random chance and hitting you with a big negative refashion score because fuck you, theyre going to be your rivals for this play through etc, just like warband >re-balance relationship gain to make these interactions more important to your relationship with other clans and one of the key things>re-balance influence gain in general to make it much more scarce, then re balance influence costs for armies so that it is PROHIBITIVELY expensive to bring clans who dont like you into an army, im talking like 300 influence >this way your relations and interactions with clans is important because you can only get clans youve worked with who like and trust you to follow you into battle, just like warband how you could only get guys who liked you to follow you (unless you were the martial, and still even then people might not respect you as marshal) the purpose of all of this is to A) make the game feel more alive in general by giving personality and personal relationships with other lords/clans and B) not only adding more interactions with them, but making these interactions more meaningful and rewarding by trying these interactions to critical systems like army management
>>723617638in conclusion, in my opinion this is literally the only thing bannerlord needs is personality and meaningful relationships with other lords. as it stands i literally never interact with other lords at all pretty much, wheras in warband you are CONSTANTLY interacting with them and forming positive and negative relationships with them, and this is what really made the game feel alive and immersive but of course instead of doing these simple tweaks we get the fanbase complaining about shit like "We NeEd DiPlOmAcY!" and "dude naval combat!"
>>723599294>are ye stealin from us?
>>723600368Same as what TotK did to BotW. Getting a decent sequel that changes almost nothing is more damaging to a franchise than having an offensively bad sequel that takes risks. I didn't get any sense of adventure or personal growth when playing Bannerlord, just deja vu and carryover fatigue from Warband. From memory, the only significant-ish change was the sieges and it took forever to get to that point, the rest was very same-y, just roaming around in circles farming tournaments.
>taleworld employees have been on salary from today til before the release of bannerlord>every single day (minus days off and vacations)>years later and this is the end product they've ended up at with all those years of going into the office (and work from home)
>>723599294Bannerlord will only be good when they abandon it and not a second sooner.
>>723617689>but of course instead of doing these simple tweaks we get the fanbase complaining about shit like "We NeEd DiPlOmAcY!" and "dude naval combat!"I'll take problems that never exist for 2 dollar
>>723616789>>723616734Warhammer mod. It’s got a functional magic system, different races to play as with some unique mechanics and fun unique units. You’ve got cannons, treants, minotaurs and various cool units like that. It also has a career system - basically classes with their unique skill trees, active and passive abilities and sometimes also unique units. You can get pretty disgustingly overpowered, but it’s very fun.
seeing the nexus, it does look like there's some neat new world maps and overhauls finally showing up. at long last, my investment for this early access project will finally pay off.
>>723609896Sad but true
>>723600025What is it still missing compared to Warband?
>>723621824Fun
>>723617638idk man, everything from the map to the UI just makes me think "i wish i was playing warband instead" the only thing i like is how fluid mowing down enemies feel but that's all
Is there a general or a copypasta about which version to get? Haven't played the game since m&b 1 original release
>>723622384The general is dead. Just get Warband, install WSE2 and pick whatever mod that’s up your alley.
>>723619609Look up who developed Bannerlord. Unironically. Finding out where their HQ located is will be telling.
>>723621875so nothing?
>>723599294God I wish it wasn't an unfinished mess. Then the devs decide to spit on modders who try and fix their shit game with constant buckbreaking hotfixes. IT COULD'VE BEEN SO GOOD BROS.Fuck T*leWorlds
>>723605435Why can't retards use print screen key any longer? Just go back to tiktok.
>>723619609taleworld "employees" are 80% interns from turkish uni working for minimum wage. The only reason they are still in business is because they get directly subsidized by their government.
>>723620180>tfw mousillon vampire knight jumping 15 feet into the air over castle walls to kill the defenders and open the gatesIt's good fun but development time is slow and Warsword conquest mogs it.
>>723616829I'm doing a 1.3 beta playthrough after not playing this mid garbage for a few years, after buying 3 workshops, I think the only difference is a more consistent and higher? income (this was fixed with mods years ago).>>723605580yes>>723616682Got butterlib and a few mods working on the 1.3 beta, idk what you're smoking, try the nexus versions maybe.
>>723624227thx bro
I'm installing Kingdom Under Fire instead. Had enough with bannerlord. Maybe with the expansion next year.
Was every single competent person in the company killed during the war?
>>723621824you know how in warband you can buy a workshop and it will produce items that you can sell and provide even more if you provide raw materials yourselfin bannerlord you can buy a workshop and have it produce absolutely nothing
>>723629153That doesn't sound that hard to code at a basic level, wasn't this game out for like 3 years.
>>723599294The turks been working on it SINCE 2012 and it's still nowhere near Warband in terms of fun kek.
>>723629397>>723629302it's so fucking grim
>>723629109it's pretty obvious armagan, the practically solodev of warband, got locked in a closet or is otherwise stripped of creative controleither that or he just stopped giving a shit and just collects his cheques
>>723619609pretty sure it was mainly developed by inexperienced interns that got cycled out and replaced with new ones every so often
Are the graphics are badass at least?
>>723629967how embarrasing
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>>723629302original devs are rotationally replaced by turkish university students so the company can live off government gibsthat's why you used to have 6000 hotfixes every week that broke all mods 6000 times per week
>>723621824romancingduelinghealthy multiplayer well-written companions with interesting backstoriesbannerlord has features too but they are all tedious and boring
>>723633883>romancingi dont like how bannerlord only has you build relations with families instead of individualsfeels less personal
>>723633883>romancinggo play your weeb dating simulators
>>723634113NIGGER ALERT NIGGER ALERT >playing a game where you're a medieval lord>encounter courting and marriage mechanics>reeeeeee what is this gay weaboo bullshitfucking tourist go the fuck back
Would Warband work on the steam deck, controls wise?
>>723599294Always has been
>>723634803It works surprisingly well, thumbstick combat takes a moment to get used to but it is viable but it's definitely worth a try if you own an 'eck
>>723599294They didn't even try to fix the combat. Well the AI is not suicidal anymore so there is that.All they did was put lipstick on a pig.
War Sails will save Bannerlord
These medieval games are always shit to the very core no matter what the devs do. There's just nothing interesting about that era. Maybe go further back to the time of Achilles or some Conan the Barbarian 10,000 BC shit, or ancient Egypt. Medieval Europe was just christk1kes oppressing everyone and everything in the most boring way possible.
>>723636086go awayinstall warband with diplo modreturn after 3 weeks
I only played "story" twice when it was initially release. I am not sure if I have guts to to through it again.The start as far I remember is really painful struggle, but at some point I remember having fun with running mercenary band with Battanian fian champions.But then I am kind of bummed out. Because managing one / two cities is doable, but when multiple cities comes with Lords it sounds painful.I also have finest clue how to min / max with companions.
>>723636086>There's just nothing interesting about that era.here's your (you), vile dumb fucking nigger.
>>723605435>marcus fenix>can't print screenfucking kek
>>723636086Mountain Blade doesn't even take place in the real world you dumb nigger.
>>723603318Being mediocre in an uninteresting way is worse for discussion than being bad in an interesting way.
>>723636086>back to roman times>romans just crubstomping everyone>back to greek times>persian spergs trying to expand their empire lose to an anatolian civilization again
>>723639030>>romans just crubstomping everyoneTeutoburg Forest and Cannae?
>>723639153too boring for a game, not enough factionsthats what makes the medieval setting so interesting, there is no obvious all powerful faction, everyone is in a delicate balance for the player to mess around with
>>723639827I don't know, someone posted else this idea and I've been obsessed with it, but I want a game about the Romans early conquest in BritainDeep in ancient pagan territory with weird Druids and Witches and huge red painted giantsRome had plenty of losses in the periphery when they went too far
>>723639030Why limit yourself to actual irl history instead of making an alternate universe setting inspired by real history, like what m&b does.
>>723599294noi'll just keep playing warsword
>>723640039>>723640282rome total war was great for example, but as a barbarian faction all you can do is just build mud hutsi guess the core issue is that once you technologically advance past the ancient times you end up in a medieval setting anyways, kind of having a forced narrow frame of reference to play in
>>723621824An early-game that doesn't last 20 fucking hours
>>723609896DD1 was just as dogshit
>>723636086>christk1kes its pronounced Kike you seething faggot Jew.
>>723641007of all the complaints about bannerlord, this is yours?the earlygame is the only part of the game that feels somewhat feature-complete (though companions are extremely barebones and shitty), the lategame is the part that's dogshit
>>723641675Warband's early-game is lightning fast. I can get a good party of 50ish men in like half an hour.In Boredomlord it's way longer because of party size tied to the whole Clan level bullshit.For me M&B has always been about the big scale wars. The quicker a M&B game gets to that phase, the better. For me.
>>723641337>capitalizedhm smells of falseflag just a wee bi'
>>723632057>>723632279he lost
>>723630231>embarrasingHow embarrassing.
>>723633883and feasts
>>723643308oh yeah there are no feasts anymore, cant go there and meet your waifu
>>723640335how janky are the massive units in warsword?>>723642838shall i pronounce it for you more clearly retard?K followed by I followed by K followed by E. K I K E. get it now dumbass?
>>723642917oh no
>>723644783OH N-*
When are we getting a different company making a warband clone, bros? It's time. I'm tired of their shit
>>723646929Starsector and X4 are the closest things I’ve played and they’re both sci-fi
>>723646929Nobody is making good games anymore. It's all committee slop. Niche games are just not profitable enough to exists. Only the cheapest slop aimed at the lowest step of the intellectual ladder. Normalfags, failed normies, women.