>pay literally one million dollars for a gaming rig
>or 500 bucks for a console
Hmmm, I wonder which is better.

I like sitting on the couch in my living room with a controller in my hand

It's the gaming rig because you can di more than gaymen

>>723609510
the gaming rig yes we get it

>>723609463
Because you can't own games and consoles are simply more fun. I quit PC gaming in 2012, haven't looked back since.

>>723609463
my PC does not look like this.

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>>723609510
I recently found a Gaming PC that has an objectively great price/performance ratio! It costs less than $1,000 which is unbelievable!

https://www.amazon.com/Skytech-Gaming-Blaze4-4-5GHz-Desktop/dp/B0FR4BMZKV

You can either join the prestigious PC Gaming master race or you can continue to be a silly butt hurt jealous console peasant!

>>723609463
I did. I'm so glad I decided to get a proper pc instead of a ps5.
>>723609524
I do miss this feeling sometimes though. Console gaming is more comfy.

>>723609463
I hate woke shit.

>>723609679
pretty good price for a disgusting prebuilt that will probably rape even the ps6

>>723609692
We get it, you're miserable faggot who cant enjoy anything, no once cares.

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>>723609510
You mean pay $500 + online + expensive accessories + digital games never dropping in price

>>723609524
Yes you can do that with PC

>>723609662
Consoles are not more fun

>>723609692
Yes there are you fucking jaded faggot

>>723609737
woke shit is on consoles what's your point?

>>723609510
>500 bucks for a console
No one tell him

>>723609463
i'd rather buy games than licenses

>>723609862
I'm not going to have a PC hooked up to my living room TV. I've already got a PC at my bedroom desk. It's extremely convenient to sit down and turn a game on with 2 button presses.
>connect my PC to my TV like a retard
>still need to get up or have a mouse surface nearby to launch the game

>>723609463
If Shion is PC, what is Mion?

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>>723609510
>literally one million dollars for a gaming rig
Everyone can lie on the internet. You can spend whatever you want on your PC and game. Incoming goalpost movement!

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>>723609862
>Consoles are not more fun
That's incorrect.

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I did in in like 1995 when I was young.

Played the most of the "classics" when they were new.
Still missed out on the older "classics" though.

Last console was a Genesis and then didn't get one till Xbox (and about a year after it came out). That and Halo still blew us away when we first played it. Had the same experience when I first got a 360 and Kameo (sat that and waited for the cutscene with the horse and tons of enemies on a hill to end...didn't realize it wasn't a cutscene (similar to the rail sequence in Half-Life). I also spent a bunch of time in first person in the home zone just looking at flowers in that game, the 360 was a game changer.

Shame about the Xbox One and series X (grabbed a Xbox one Halo 5? edition and maybe 3 total games for it)

>>723609524
I want to get a treadmill and game while walking but about the only thing I play now for the most part consistently is WoW.
Maybe one of those N100-150 machines would work but just wouldn't be able to play WoW, could do the Yakuza series or other stuff through Nvidia link or whatever.

That and Girls Frontline 1 and 2, and the occasional RTS (SupCom, Rise of Nations) and HoMM

Should get back into all those old NES games (and my parents Intellivision) I used to play (did a Retropie forever ago as it is a Rasberry Pie 3). That or EmuVR for my Quest 3 (HTC Vive broke 2 years ago)

>>723610415
>sitting across the room from computer/TV setup
>controller in hand ready to play game
>can't start the fucking game with the controller
the only way this would work is if I also had a keyboard & mouse within arms reach at all times. not to mention I'd need a fucking PC looking like an eyesore in the living room. do you see how this is already less convenient?

>>723609679
>>723609813
What's the catch? I built my first computer about 5 years ago, ryzen 3600 and gtx 1660s, and it's starting to show its age. I'd need a new motherboard at this point too.

>>723609463
Its comfier to lay all sprawled out on the couch with my steam deck or using the tv than it is to stay seated upright in front of the puter.

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>>723610853
There's no catch! That Gaming PC is REALLY cheap because it has outdated specs! That's all!

If you want it, then just buy it already! Buy it while you still can!

>>723610853
Ryzen 3600 is more than enough for most games, just needs a more decent GPU.

>>723611041
I'm trying to play Wilds. Which is about the only thing I have a problem running, but still.

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>>723609463
PC's a pain in the dick because the variability of PCs often means your's will have niche and unique problems. While usually solvable (I'm not a moron), it's still annoying to have to go through the rigamarole. That being said, PC is becoming more of my preferred platform. The only reason I'm still on console is because of Nintendo and their exclusives plus the fact I'm too much of a wuss to break the law.

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>>723609463
Why would you or anyone else want switch to PC gaming when Asmongold is face of it on the internet?
Serious question
This is the guy who says that nintendo needs to stop making exclusives, and release their games on pc

>>723610760
Wireless and wired peripherals only differ by less than 1ms latency wise and you can easily play with them on the couch with a keyboard on your lap and a hard mouse pad on the seat
You get a foot stool and it's more comfortable than a controller
Also the only one responsible for a pc looking like an eyesore is you, get a good looking case

>>723611182
>plus the fact I'm too much of a wuss to break the law.

Same, but I'm afraid I'll download some Trojan by mistake.

>>723609862
post more

>>723611269
How can you possibly be retarded enough to attach the whole platform to a single specific user?
I guess every consolecuck is wings of redemption now

>>723611269
So you mind attaching to weird console faggots who suck the company's dick 24/7?

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>>723609510
You can't do shit with a console aside from playing games.
A PC on the other hand lets you play games while being able to do everything you could do on, well, a PC.

Also with a decent PC you can emulate older consoles, essentially making a PC "multiple" consoles at once. PC also does not have the "paying to use your own internet" tax. PC also has relatively way better performance for most games compared to consoles, as well as the ability to actually adjust graphical settings on your own accord, whereas with consoles you virtually aren't allowed to touch those settings, so if a new game comes out on console and runs at 30fps then you're basically fucked, because you would have often been able to tinker with settings on PC for that same game to get it to run at higher fps.
Yes, the newer console gen has "performance/quality mode" but that only gets you so far and it's not an option for older consoles.

That said a PC can still be quite expensive, and will often have you tinkering to get some things to work properly, whereas consoles are cheaper and most of the time just plug'n play.

>>723610760
>what is steam big picture mode
>what is playnite
>what is steam input for mouse movement
retard argument
>PC looking like an eyesore
Sorry you have an ugly pc but have you heard of HDMI cables longer than 1m or streaming over LAN

>>723609524
>waa I can't plug an hdmi into my tv
What a non-argument.

>>723611269
>This is the guy who says that nintendo needs to stop making exclusives, and release their games on pc
they should

>>723610090
Do you think you're not doing that if you're buying current day console games physically? Just pirate.

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>>723610760
>people will now pretend pic-related is the epitome of beauty just to not hook up a cable to the tv
lmao

>>723611753
or I can sit down, push a button, play my game. I have the living room of a functioning adult, there's nowhere the PC can go without it sticking out like a sore thumb, unless I rearrange the entire setup. I'm comfy, I'm cozy, I'm winning. Can you name one gaming experience that I'm desperately missing out on without a modern PC?

>>723612057
Haven't owned a playstation since 2005

The steam license vs owning your game shit is such a retarded argument
What happens when PSN decides they don't wanna support Gravity Rush 2 after a year or two? Sorry champ it's dead, too bad you can never get the exclusive costumes anymore!
What happens when Steam shuts down? I've got my games installed on my PC and there are literally at least 3 Steam emulators already right now that let me play the game however I want and still tracks my cheevos and shit

>>723610090
You're not buying your own hardware because you have conditions on it for having them taken offline
Between you will le own nothing I'd rather have control over hardware that lets me copy, crack and pirate games as well as unlocking additional functionality that consoles just don't have

>>723609463
Just to specifically spite you

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>>723612134
>a functioning adult
Absolutely zero self-awareness with this retards I swear.

>>723612195
Exactly this.
All I even give a fuck about is playtime tracking and a decent looking interface, which Playnite does beautifully. I don't even have Steam installed on my PC.

>>723612134
In what world does a footprint increase between a mATX case and a console matter? Would you rather have the hardware cook itself because you're such an unapologetic form over substance faggot?

>>723612257
I understand you can't fathom what a screen looks like without a PC beside/underneath it. Most living rooms don't have a gigantic pc next to the TV.

PC is the shittiest gaming experience. I'll never go back to the tranny toaster.

>>723612408
Who the fuck cares King of Normalfaggots that's what ingenuity is for and function>form.

>>723612545
>tranny toaster
a console?
https://instinctmagazine.com/survey-are-gaymers-more-into-playstation-or-xbox/
>The data didn’t stop there. The Nielson gaming survey also found that LGBTQ gamers were more likely to be console owners than PC owners. 77 percent of LGBTQ gamers owned a console while 29 percent were PC-based.

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>>723609463
You're telling me there's gaming other that PC gaming?

>>723612134
>or I can sit down, push a button, play my game
All three options I listed that you failed to understand will do this
Literally just press the same button as you do on your console and it'll bring up Steam, Playnite, Launchbox, whatever the fuck you want, then you use the controller to launch the game. What's the problem?
>I have the living room of a functioning adult, there's nowhere the PC can go without it sticking out like a sore thumb
I'm assuming by this you mean your room at your mom's house is too small for anything that won't fit on a shelf, because this is still solvable with a long cable, LAN streaming, or simply not being retarded
>Can you name one gaming experience that I'm desperately missing out on without a modern PC?
Mods, graphic settings, multitasking, emulation, games unrestricted by console generations, delisted/banned games, romhacks, I feel like I bit the bait to be honest because those are really really stupid arguments all around. If my iPhone gf can figure out how to play the Sims and Stardew on the TV from our bed I'm pretty confident it's easy and comfy

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Consolekeks would rather eat a literal turd on a plate in the name of convenience instead of going the extra mile to prepare a proper steak.

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>>723611269
> muh ecelebs

>>723612408
>he can't read
>>>HDMI cable longer than 1m
>>>LAN streaming

I have. Years ago. I was buying consoles as well but now every game is designed to be on every platform from day 1 so there's no point.
I know sony will eventually release every title on PC, I know xbox is going to release everything on PC, I know nintendo shit will be emulated and probably leaked before retail release.

>>723612338
I fucking love Playnite but my hours tracked keeps getting fucked somehow. Steam games work alright but most of my other sources either inflate my hours (PS) or don't sync with other instances, which is kinda lame. I just use achievements to track progress instead

>>723610760
>I'd need a fucking PC looking like an eyesore in the living room.
Just get a pretty case
Fractal design north looks really good and you can pick a sleek mesh version over gaudy glass

>>723612679
Don't really care about mods, and the mods that I do care about can run on my outdated PC that I'll sometimes play for older exclusives that never made it to console. Don't really care about graphic settings either. When I'm playing a game I'm not trying to multitask anything else. You can emulate on consoles nowadays, I pretty much only play emulated games as of late, on console. Only thing that could realistically get me to make the change would be if some new incredible game was PC exclusive, but that doesn't happen.

>>723612134
>or I can sit down, push a button, play my game
I do this with my peecee, it just works
>Can you name one gaming experience that I'm desperately missing out on without a modern PC?
yeah the biggest one backwards compatibility. lemme go play a 8th gen game on my ps5 oh wait it's locked 1080/30 and looks like ass. or maybe today I feel like playing a 7th gen game oh wait they are streamed and look like shit at 720/30.

>>723611269
>i hate white american male
average console brownoid

>>723613256
you unironically sound so cucked i'm so sorry anon

>>723611269
>Asmongold is face of it on the internet?
I legitimately can't even tell if this is a shitpost or not, no one can possibly be this stupid but then this site is completely inundated with bad actors and 70IQ brown people now

>>723613341
I could not care less if the game I'm playing is 30fps

>>723613592
I forgive you. I've been posting from my PC btw. But I will not be playing my videogames from this seat.

>>723613256
>really don't care
>don't care
>don't care
>don't want anything else
>consoles can emulate just fine
God fucking damnit I knew you were actually retarded
Keep your Switch, I'm sure you were so grateful Nintendo finally let you use bluetooth audio 6 years after release. Mine plays PS1 and PSP games too, a shame you think mods are too hard to understand, even your shitty console could be improved

>>723610469
>Treadmill while gaming
>but no games to treadmill to
unironically just get a VR headset with Beat Saber or buy Ring Fit Adventure for the Switch
the quest is pretty cheap nowadays

>>723613618
Fair enough, I stopped playing games at 30fps around 2007/8 when I ditched the 360 for PC. Could never go back to 30.

>>723613768
It's an Xbox bro, you can emulate up to 360 and PS3. Pretty much every game I have any interest in playing going all the way back to my childhood, I can play easily from console. And like I said, my PC is outdated but can still run games like Fallout 4 or Minecraft with mods, its just not what I'm currently into playing.

>>723613980
You can if you force yourself to, if it's stable 30 then you should adjust relatively fast to it. Ofc

>>723614220
>You can if you force yourself to
console enjoyers

>>723614220
I can't it's just not enjoyable. I've been on 120hz+ for 15 years at this point.

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>>723609463
But I have. Now, tell me why you're not playing Age of Empires.

>>723609510
>literally one million dollars for a gaming rig
show me this one million dollar gaming rig that you saw right now so i can buy it and dab on every poorfag on the planet

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>Poorfag, the Thread

>>723609463
I do, I just realised that most PC games aren't worth playing, so I just browse the internet.

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>>723609463
I like to physically own official copies of the things I enjoy.

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>>723613970
No desire for the switch, my much younger brother from same parents had a Wii.
Beat Saber is ok with community song packs but I want something to get my steps in during the cold / early night months (average 10k steps per day without)
Been looking more and more at Moza racing wheels for arcade games (Initial D Stage Zero and Wangan Midnight Tune 5)

Currently I am stuck between those crappy cheap "walk under desk" things and the 400 lb treadmills with a 4+ foot pad length and 15 degree inclination.

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>>723609463
Did, but went a step beyond.

>>723610760
>within arms reach
Why do you keep pretending wireless mice and keyboards don't exist? With regards to PCs being eyesores, just stop being a woman. You can get pink cases if you're that much of a faggot.

>>723615207
Native FSR4.
Anti-cheat.
Xorg crash causing entire install corruption.

>>723614375
Just a bloodborne enjoyer actually.
>b-but emulation
Nah.

>>723615207
and you fell off, retard

>>723615060
>playing games is wasted effort so i don't bother anymore
that's just sad anon, might aswell go touch some grass, doomscrolling is the fastest way to brain rot.

>>723615247
the main point is that I don't want to click anything okay? I'm not fucking clicking anything to play my games. I will be fully reclined into my couch with both hands on a controller. unless I'm playing Oldschool Runescape, then I'll be fully crouched forward like a goblin.

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>>723609463
Played the Nes at launch, bought the first playstation. At PS5 Im finally tapping out.
It sounds dumb but I didnt know you could easily connect computers to a tv... and controller.
All PC games I played used a mouse and I couldn't figure how you fags played Sekiro.

>>723612134
50 PCtrannies killed themselves after reading this post.

>>723615720
>muh convenience
>phoneposting in 4chan
consolejeets

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>>723612257
You post that pic way to much. Half the time it doesnt make sence. Also why are you such a constant negative bitch?

>>723612658
Consoles doesnt have access to tranny central (discord) so most lgbt mentally ill people gravitate around PC.

>>723612679
If PC is so great why you're wasting all these words trying to convice us comfy consolers that PC is such a better experience?

>>723609463
Paizuri
>>723609862
Paizuri anal
>>723614873
Paizuri impregnation

>>723615942
>posting from my PC located at my desk
>when I want to play a game I move to my living room and mentally disconnect from the internet.

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>>723614956
1.5m actually.

>>723613504
PC is the third world gaming machine of choice

>>723615942
Do you poorfags really sit in a wagiecagie and not post from your couch on tablets?

>>723615919
Still no one has suggested a gaming experience that you need a modern pc for besides emulation, and I can already do that on my Xbox.
>mods
okay sure Minecraft with mods is fun for a week
>gwaphics
I will play OSRS before anything else if I bought a new pc

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>>723615382
Bloodborne becoming a slideshow is basically my only problem with the game, I put up with the sub-30 because I have to since it's locked to a console
I know BB emulation isn't PERFECT yet but 30fps is so rough I hacked my PS4 just for the 60fps patch
no business settling for 30fps when most modern screens can do 4x that
>>723616089
2/10 wouldn't have responded if i wasn't already filling out a captcha

>>723616365
>Still no one has suggested a gaming experience that you need a modern pc for
Probably because 99% of PC gamers play on 10+ years old toasters.

>>723616089
>>723616437
realizing now that consoles can't do multi-monitor setups so the idea of playing a video game and having a web browser open at the same time is probably outlandish

>>723616365
multi-monitor setups
>i dont care
I know

>>723616549
my point is that if I want to play Fallout 2 or Total War Rome 2, I can run that on my shitty PC. Anything else that isn't an old PC exclusive, will be a more comfortable experience for me on console.

>pc is for the poor
>pc is too expensive
will the trans community ever decide on something, no wonder they have 52% accuracy

>>723616812
>connect controller to pc
consoles are just a locked down pc, dunno where the idea that consoles are somehow more "comfortable" came from.

>>723609463
Shion > Mion

>>723616607
attention spans are long gone. could you even consider playing without multimonitor if you tried your hardest? no podcast or /v/ to distract while playing?

>>723616976
some games just don't respect your time, i was playing diablo 4 yesterday and there's plenty of points where you get 3 second black screens between cutscenes.

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>>723615720
>I don't want to click anything
>>>>he still can't read
>>>>>>>>Steam Big Picture
>>>>>>>>Playnite
>>>>>>>>Launchbox
can you tell which of these is Playnite and which is a PS5? literally the same shit. It has themes for every other console plus original designs too, fully controller friendly
you may have been ignorant but if you keep it up you'll just reinforce that consoles are for tards who can't read

>>723616976
yeah I love when I queue up for a match or wait for a load and just stare at the screen and watch spinners and bars fill in, very engaging; I've studied every pixel of the Bloodborne™ logo from every time I died and was forced to maintain eye contact with my TV

>>723617202
that image is the first almost convincing thing I've seen in the entire thread. Maybe one day I'll look into it but I honestly cant be bothered at this point in time. Does it actually boot right to this screen? If I could just power on my PC and see a console interface, I would actually consider playing on PC more often. I have a feeling it isn't that streamlined though.

>>723617685
>Does it actually boot right to this screen?
bazzite will boot straight into steam big picture if you want, i don't think it's possible on windows.

>>723617685
you can set it up to boot on launch and/or focus with the guide button
all you had to do was read

>>723616932
>Shion > Mion
This guy gets it

I've done that years and years ago. I think the last generation of consoles I bothered with was the Wii U one.
I have a hard time understanding why people would not want to have the biggest catalog of games available.

>>723617775
that's not quite the same thing as >>723617746 because you still have windows in the background, if something pulls the focus or whatever you will need to get your mouse to get back into steam or your game.
a gamescope session in bazzite has no desktop environment in the background, only steam see ttps://docs.bazzite.gg/Handheld_and_HTPC_edition/Steam_Gaming_Mode/

>>723618047
they don't want to read
simple people prefer simple methods

>>723617775
>>723617746
thank you gentlemen for taking the time to go back and forth with me on this. Now I must retreat to my living room couch to play Castlevania Aria of Sorrow.

>>723609463
I did at one point. But I grew tired of paying 10 times the money for the same hardware and having to constantly troubleshoot problems with Windows and games themselves. It just wasn't worth the hassle.

>>723618086
I don't think recommending Linux to somebody who doesn't want to click anything is a good idea
Compatibility issues and configuration would deter most people coming from console. I honestly haven't had anything take focus away from a game I'm playing in at least 5 years, but both Steam and Playnite have methods to switch back to your game from your controller, so still a non issue imo
Nothing against Linux myself, but remember these kinds of people thought running an HDMI from your PC to TV was doing too much

>>723618287
>i've never used linux
i don't think you're in a position to comment on whether or not it's apt to recommend to someone.

>>723618280
timmy the troubled trans thing typed this trash take

>>723609463
EVERY TIME I GET MY PC RIGHT WHERE I WANT IT SOME OLD BULLSHIT HAPPENS

>windows decides to make it self worse
>Linux
>new graphics card is required
>new graphics fucks the game up for some reason
>denuvo and drm / 'anticheat' horseshit
>need adderal or cocaine for certain multiplayer games
>have to shit self to continue playing
>audio fucking up for no explainable reason
>game decides to hog ALL THE RAM and crashes it self
>game decides to turn my Mobo into melted metal
>game decides to not work at all for no explainable reason, unless I plug in a USB then unplug it during a loading screen
>game decides to leak highly sensitive tank schematics

In reality, I just use a ps5 because its easier and I have a jailbroken ps3/xbox with nes/snes/gb/gba/psp/sega/zx/saturn etc emulators plus ISOs on the ps3/xbox

>>723609510
one MILLION?

>>723609463
I can't switch to it when I'm already here. Hell, this gen has been so dogshit that I even stopped Idorting.

>>723618390
do you expect someone who's afraid of a mouse to be able to flash an image to a USB?

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Is buying pc parts really a gatekeeping thing that keeps poorfags out of the pc gaming sphere?

>>723618539
>flashing an image to a usb
it's literally just installing rufus and pressing a button. but yeah the reason why windows has such a monopoly over desktop is because it comes pre installed.

>>723609463
Because I'm not a broke bitch who needs to pirate.

>>723609679
Shamiko wouldn't say this.
She only plays boomer JRPGs and their cancerous modern mobile game sequels.

>>723609463
i will deswitch from gaming entirely once my 9 years old pc dies
been playing the same 3 games for 15 years, its over

>>723618551
buying parts is the hardcore part
anyone can buy a normal pc and enjoy vidya

>>723609662
>Because you can't own games
99% of console vidya is licenses on a disc only. steam cuts the bullshit and just sells you licenses digitally.
gog and piracy lets you own the games proper
PC better for ownership

>>723610095
you can easily stream PCs to your living room TV with moonlight. it takes...15 minutes to set up.
>muh mouse surface needed
steam big picture has literally solved this problem for the better part of a decade. you don't need a mouse surface

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>>723618652
I get it, I really do, but did you see how many times it took saying the same thing over and over to him? Or any of his other arguments?
I'm not assuming they're very bright, probably shit themselves if they saw what you could do with the desktop version of Playnite

>>723612408
>gigantic pc next to the TV
a standard midsize ATX easily fits into a TV console or can go beside it.
either way you can easily stream to any TV 7 years or younger via moonlight with minimal to no latency. if you're playing a console port, the latency barely matters

>>723618920
>buying parts is hardcore
it's adult sized legos. use pc part picker to deal with compatibility issues then assemble. basically impossible to go wrong. the only part you need to be careful with is not frying your mobo with static discharge.

>>723609510
Consoles don't have any games though.

>>723615720
>the main point is that I don't want to click anything okay
>Clicks DS4/DS5 touchpad
And you're still fucking up. You don't have to crouch down.

>>723609463
I've been a PC gaymer as long as I remember, I had PS1 and XB360, but I never played anything there outside of Tekken 3 and MK9, shit is boring, 'ate controllers

>>723619806
They have the same games you play 1+ years later on your toaster.

>>723613618
I share /v/ with these people, despicable. What else? Are you eating plain rice with boiled chicken 3 times a day?

>>723619048
Took me 15 seconds to set up my PS5.

>>723620404
I don't play console garbage, I exclusively play Rollercoaster Tycoon with classical music playing in the background. You console fags wouldn't understand...

>>723618992
99,9% console games on disks can be played offline.

>>723620470
>need to set up playstation account
>need to set up monthly payment
>need to add an ssd because the ps5 has terrible storage
i'm probably missing a few because i've never owned a ps5 myself.

>>723620470
can't even play the good versions of San Andreas or Vice City lmaooooo

>>723620503
Updates and DLC don't magically get copied to said discs. Plus, they rot. I can still play games I purchased in the freaking early 90s. Your console died or you lost access to your library when you upgraded.

>>723620491
So it seems you're the one with no games

>>723620697
>Download the DLC
>Set offline again
Whats your point?
>Disk rot
Your hard drive rot 250 times faster and you can loose your access to steam while i play everything on disk.

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>>723609463
Why did she kill all those people ?

>>723620801
>lose your access to steam
literally never happening >>723612195

>>723609463
I don't play enough new games to justify the price

>>723620801
Steam can also be set offline. Why did you modify your argument to that? It was that you had the whole game on disc.
>While I play everything on disc
Right after saying "download the DLC." You also use a HDD to download your updates/DLC. Furthermore, your games install data to it. You want me to believe consoles would move to NVME SSDs only to settle for the lesser speeds of bluerays?
https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/boards/264562-playstation-5/80181818
This is well-known. How many of your games are actually entirely on disc anyways?

>>723620816
勉強いやだいやだいやだあああああああ

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>>723609463
Mion :DDDD

>>723621048
Ah... Also, if you say you can lose access to Steam, you also have to accept you can lose access to PSN and Xbox Live. The thing is. we're not obligated to use Steam.

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>>723621147
勉強大嫌いございますわ!!!

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>got a 4070 Super last year
>been playing games on PC a ton since and loving it
>but realising not a single one of them actually pushes the PC
Highest requirement game I've played is Digimon Time Stranger

>>723614873
great pic

>>723609463
I use both, really
switch for nintendo exclusives
piss5 for newer and more demanding games
mid tier gaming pc SOLELY to emulate every console up to the ps3/x360 era
smartphone to do workstuff and internet browsing
this setup meets all my expectations

>>723621252
That’s Shion

>>723621467
Just start playing AAA shit like CP2077 and don't worry, you'll get there.

>>723620561
>GTA
>good
Now I love PC too but come on

I turn on the console and I know I'm gaming
I sit on the PC and I start loading up 4chan and torrenting anime and porn and reading news and suddenly it's time for bed without playing a single game

>>723621048
Wait are you retarded? What installing a game on the ssd had to do with online? The game can still be played on disk and offline and its mine.
Proof?
I can resell it.
You PCtrannies owns nothing and are happy like the WEF drones you are.

>>723621903
that's the fault of your own retardation, not the platform's

>>723611681
>30fps
Oh it's this PCschizo talking point again. There is literally nothing wrong with 30fps, especially since the human eye can't see higher than it anyway.

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>>723621863
don't (You) me ever again

>>723615309
>FSR4
why would i play games that require that?
>no ring-3 level anti-cheat
is that a bad thing that cia will not plant CP on your cimputer for saying N word?
>Xorg crash causing entire install corruption
What is that fanfic?

>>723609662
>Ownership
Oh it's this bullshit again. You don't own shit on console. They've been proprietary DRMboxes for at least 20 years now (since 7th gen). Disks are just physical licenses. Microsoft and Sony can easily disable your account or revoke the license and you won't be able to do shit when your console refuses to play your disk.

>>723610090
Disks are just physical licenses.

>>723620697
>Buy a new console
>Put the old console in a closet
It's really that shrimple

>>723615102
Do you collect funkypops too you goynsumer retard?

>>723618280
Yeah. Now you instead pay 10 times the money for games and also extra to use the internet you already pay for.

>>723622804
PC third worlders get so mad when they see a physical game

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>>723622804
Ew, fuck no.

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>>723622907
What do you expect? They're "people" who literally eat with their right hand and wipe their ass with their left.

>>723616910
Probably because you push a button and play a videogame instead of wasting your time trying to configure shit or wondering what do to make a game run smoother.

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>>723622382
I can borrow or sell my disk, you cant sell your digital copy (license).
Stay happy owning nothing, you WEF cuck

>>723624229
I can pirate every game I want to play apart from most online slop, which I don't play. Don't you consolefags pay more for physical media and rarely have impactful sales?

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>>723624493
>I can pirate every game
Can't wait for the day """they""" will decide it's over and you'll end up in prison before even realizing wtf is happening.

You can't watch loli porn on your console.

At this point I don't know whether this 'PCs are too complicated' sentiment is pro-console propaganda or a gatekeeping attempt.

>>723624229
I can share my games too with family sharing, and I never sell my games anyway, prefer to keep them. I can modify my copy to look and play however I want. Can you on your cucksole?

>>723626209
They're just dressing up the fact that they're retarded
Every time a console nigger claims they're white they're the left side of the IQ bell curve white and they get lapped intellectually by poor russians and brazilians

>>723615382
>bloodborne enjoyer
oh so not even 30 fps

>>723624130
>I'd rather wallow in shit than spend 5 minutes improving my experience by doing the arduous task of... reading
Lowest time preference console cuck right there

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>>723609463
Because fuck Jewvidia. Now enjoy your soon-to-be 4499$ RTX6080 after tariffs and rare earths ban.
Fuck them, fuck AI retards, fuck EVERYONE.

>>723626209
Demotivational propaganda used to instill learned helplessness and convince people that it would be weird to want more.
>>723624569
>Magical corpo daddy will punish you, because I saw the "you wouldn't steal a car" pre-roll on my DVD

>PC gaming was dead in the 00's, it was all consoles
>Steam comes along
>Alongside cheap parts price, you could mog an X360/PS3 for LESS of you hard earned money
>Absolute kino steam sales
>Now sales are shit
>PC parts went up the wazoo
>You can't even pirate most games anymore
We were all played like fools. Especially if the cycle doesn't go back to the 00s.

>>723627232
Consoles use the exact same ingredients as Nvidia graphics cards you dumbass
How do you people manage to get conned by the halo effect so hard that you end up thinking you need a 5090

>console user states simple reason why he prefers console gaming
>exasperated pc user responds "yes but omg you know you can..."
Why are you people so butt-devastated over console gaming? How about you go cry yourselves to sleep tonight?

>>723627430
You're crying that you're forced to logically defend your preference?

>>723627043
>I'd rather wallow in shit
But enough about PC porting

>>723627537
Have you ever heard a console gamer wondering if the game he's gonna buy will run on his console?
No? Thats why majority of people are on consoles.

>>723627398
>most games anymore
Huh? You can pirate most games though? I've been playing Dying Light The Beast with my friend. Played Nightreign with him too, pirated. The only ones you can't pirate are AAA $100 shit games like Borderlands

>>723628339
Cyberpunk? But you are right, console players don't care about that shit, they don't care if the game is 720p24fps upscaled

>>723628191
but you are?
you can't change your settings down to the most minute shit
you can't install mods
you can't upgrade your hardware while keeping your entire library
you're not the master of your own experience, that's sony/microsoft/nintendo
you do in fact wallow in shit, a bottom tier lowest bidder experience

>>723627247
They do the same shit with piracy, YOU VILL GET A MALWARE! YOU VILL GET FBI KNOCKING ON YOUR DOOR!

>>723628339
console definition of "running" is 30fps with upscaling lmao
if we take the bar that low then anything runs

>>723627247
>Magical corpo daddy
More like "very real govt persons"

>>723628515
Cyberbug day one run the same on PC and next gen consoles (and i mean the same shit). I learned to avoid the "cross-gen" scam with Watchdog and especially The Evil Within (took almost a minute of loading every time you die on PS3).
>>723628653
The PC port is usually worse, so...also you (and i mean 99% of PC trannies) don't have high res monitors, i have a 4k tv.

>>723629143
>don't have high res monitors
why would i need a high res monitor? i'm 50cm away from my screen.
>pc port is usually worse
this street goes both ways, but if the port is shit on pc you always have the option of getting better hardware or lowering the settings.

>>723629143
>The PC port is usually worse
no?
console optimisation doesn't exist any more you fucking dunce
mgs delta runs at 50fps on 1080p max settings on a 9060xt
the ps5 pro runs at lower settings and needs to drop to 720p rendering for stable 60fps
>schizo ad homs in place of an argument
due to the way your eyes lose detail over distance a 1080p monitor will look better than a 4k tv given the same visual angle
not to mention that even the most basic bitch 1440p entry level oleds start at 240hz

>>723609463
Can't switch to PC when it's been my main platform since like 2010. Also was an idort with a PS3 and 4 for the few exclusives I liked, now pretty much everything is available on PC anyways though, either native releases or through emulation.

>>723629367
>mgs delta runs at 50fps on 1080p max settings on a 9060xt
>the ps5 pro runs at lower settings and needs to drop to 720p rendering for stable 60fps
Noticed nothing while playing on my PS5 & 4k '85 tv.
Thats why i play on console: i dont want to bother myself thinking about "30fps ryzen gt458 740p 4gb ram ecc" or other schizo babbling.

>>723629852
>i dont want to bother myself thinking about "30fps ryzen gt458 740p 4gb ram ecc" or other schizo babbling.
that's a perfectly valid opinion, so why are you arguing optimization and bad ports if you don't care anyways?
enjoy your 4k from your couch with framegen and upscaling and fuckoff.

>play on console
>get blisters
>play on pc
>don't get blisters

>>723629852
yes, consoles have value if you're stupid and unwilling to learn
no one is disputing that

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>>723609463
>PS4 Pro: $100
>2 TB SSD: $50
>homebrew the shit out of it, including Linux and Steam, emulators, roms...
Holy value.

PC lost once again.

>>723629143
>I learned to avoid
>Have you ever heard a console gamer wondering if the game he's gonna buy will run on his console?
Which one is it?

>>723630468
>value
my guy the ps4 pro gpu is on par with a $50 gpu
a swing and a miss yet again

>>723630660
Except a PC isn't only a GPU, and like most pcfags you're also a pathological liar when it comes to prices

>>723630763
a ps4 pro isn't only a gpu either
it has an utterly atrocious cpu and 8gb of shared memory
if you're in the ultra poorfag buying used shit price range you might as well stick that $50 gpu in an optiplex

>>723630938
>$50 gpu in an optiplex
can it run bloodborne, death stranding, rdr2... ?

>>723631146
if we consider the state the ps4 pro does it in "running" then yes

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I mean console is a pretty good option if you are like normalfag that gets to play 3-4 hours in weekends I guess, otherwise PC is king if you play a lot, you pay a lot more for hardware, but you get to pirate most of the games, play kbm if you want, maybe even grind some games while watching something if you feel grindy and don't wanna do some story game. Able to play indies, RTS or other stuff like that.
Easily swappable parts to upgrade. PC operation systems are much more comfier than console ones, that shit genuinely makes me want to vomit.
Funnily enough I noticed another thing while consoles are supposed to be more narrow equipment, built for gaming, it feels like all enthusiasts use PCs, while the console crowd is the type to blast sound on shitty TV speakers and don't care about general quality of their games.

>>723609510
>buy console for 700 bucks
>get fleeced by the corpos who own that walled garden of a system by forcing you to pay for subscriptions and even the most basic fucking shit that already exists on the pc for free
>also the corpos can just literally shut down your machine remotely because fuck you
>and the games run like shit
>buy a pc
>the games are for free
hmm i wonder which of these here are a good proposition for me

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>>723620404
consoles don't have RTS games though

>>723632374
They have the last of us and god of war though, and GTA VI!

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>>723632487
can i build massive doomstacks in those games though?

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>>723609662
yeah but can you marry holo in your console games? i think not

>>723632763
fuuuck, why are you doing this to me, if only garena was alive, blizzardfags killed WC3 with that shitty remake.

>Laptop and ps5
>$900

>gaming pc
> atleast $1500 for midrange

>>723633030
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/96DGgn ? Define midrange? 1440p165?

>>723633030
a $1500 midrange pc will have a 9070xt, a gpu that runs games 70% better than a ps5 pro

>>723632763
>activate windows watermark
kek

>>723609524
Computers have used HDMI's since 2014. That's not even a good excuse anymore.
>>723633030
Laptops suck. It's the worst of both worlds. Went through 5 of them in a decade only went through 1 Desktop in a single one. I would tell anyone to this day a Desktop is worth it in the long run.

>>723633585
>hdmi
fuck no, i use display port thank you very much.

>>723616976
Yes. I do that every single day.

>>723629143
>The PC port is usually worse
Nope. Consoletards just have terrible standards so they'll gladly eat the shit they're served without noticing anything wrong with it. PC basically has an IQ filter built in because you need to be able to do the bare minimum amount of research instead of just buying the shit that's advertised to you. Because of that, PCHADS have standards and complain when they're served shit. In the minds of retarded consoletards this creates an impression that PC ports are bad because they only ever hear PCHADS complaining.

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>>723609463

All 3 video game makers started to make people pay to play online

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>>723611506
>The most faggot shit i've seen all day
you didn't see the image you uploaded, tranny?

>>723609463
explain why your gaming rig doesn't have a rtx5090 and 4k display?

>>723635480
12vhpwr

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>>723635421
It's a falseflag obv

>>723635560
don't be silly

>>723629990
When have you ever seen a thread were console gamers tries to convince PC trannies that their toaster is a shit and to switch to a console?

>>723632374
But RTS are a dogshit genre, Turn-based are peak strategy.

>>723631970
must be fun being broke

>>723635937
>m-muh pcs cost a gorillion million dollarinos compared to muh cheap consoles!!
>heh, you get them for free? have fun being a brokie while i overspend on muh consoles
which one is it

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>>723612057
The Series X has way better aesthetics than the PS5. I like they finally made an Xbox that is a literal box

>>723635648
i'm not silly
i'd rather have 4 8 pins sticking out than a 12vhpwr
each wire is transmitting half the amps and they don't let wires get overloaded
12hpwr exists only because nvidia wanted their founders edition design to look more gay

>>723636105
>entire post is crying about price/costs
also
>I'm not broke
which one is it?

>>723636186
What PC do you have?

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>>723609463
Why do I need to switch we can I enjoy it all? what world are you living in where people don't have both?

>>723636452
a 9070xt
it's the best gpu you can buy that doesn't have 12vhpwr

>>723636664
it isn't a very good GPU though. You'd think that if you're going to champion PC gaming over console that you'd actually have a good PC

>>723636713
>i need the best pc possible to run the game in 4k ultra with ray tracing
never understood this, i'll probably use 1080p until the day i die and my 6600rx is chugging along just fine 3 years later.

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>>723611269
>Baldo gets roach on his shirt
Gently takes roach out of his house
>Nepo small head's own dog moves a bit after 4 hours
ZAAAAAAAP!

>>723636870
>you should buy a PC over console because it's better
>but mine isn't because I bought a shit one
I'd rather play on console than game on a shit PC

>>723636713
it's 70% better than any console though?
your standards are women rating male attractiveness tier skewed if your definition of good is just the 5090 because that's way less than 1% of pc cards

>>723636930
but it's 100% worse than a good gaming PC

>>723636924
>I'd rather play on console than game on a shit PC
i can play every game on the market at 1080@60. does a man really need more?

>>723636970
a 5090 isn't even double the performance of a 9070xt you dumbass
again, your standards of good are heavily lopsided if less than 1% of systems make it there

>>723637048
how would you know when you just have a shit AMD GPU?

>>723637042
I wouldn't want to play any game at 1080p 60

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>>723636419
>post was in a reply to another crying about the cost of pcs compared to consoles
>"why is he complaining about the cumulative prices on the consoles over time compared to the pc"
a shame some """people""" here could not read

>>723637132
your standards are retarded and you somehow degenerated to this conversation by trying to defend 12vhpwr
there's nothing left to say here, take your meds and pull that dick out of your ass

>>723637218
>retarded enough to buy AMD
>retarded enough to pretend it's good on the internet
lol

>>723637167
you're playing mgs delta at 720p60 on a ps5 pro

>>723637357
>you're playing mgs delta at 720p60 on a ps5 pro
I'm not playing MGS Delta at all.

>>723637351
>retarded enough to believe that only less than 1% of hardware can be classified as good
>shitting on amd while buying amd products
something tells me you're compensating

>>723637480
>you're compensating
in what way? I'm not the one larping as PCMR with a 500$ dogshit GPU

>>723637351
>retarded enough to buy AMD
consoles have amd hardware dumbass

>>723637357
All PS5 games are upscaled to 4k or in 2k in performance mode (wich i never pick btw).
Meanwhile your noisy toaster struggles to give you 1080

>>723637480
AMD GPUs are objectively far less performant than Njewdia. AMD CPUs are objectively fucking good.

>>723637589
So you agree that AMD is shit.

>>723637547
because women rate male attractiveness more favourably than you rate pc hardware
you're deeply insecure and it shows

>>723609463
No good exclusives in years, no physical games, not worth the higher price of parts just for multiplats. Especially not worth it since I only play single player games.

>>723637649
>buys shit AMD GPU
>goes off on tangent about what a fucking woman thinks?
are your estrogen pills kicking in?

>>723637612
a 9060xt runs games just as well as a ps5 pro though?
the difference is that you're trying to pass on upscaling as native like the kike you are

>>723609463
I have a good job but in poor country: a good gaming PC costs a month's salary.

>>723637701
yours have kicked in way too far if you're so disconnected from the real world that only 1% of pcs meet your standard for good

>>723637773
What's the difference with my standards vs your standards?
Your PC is closer to console performance than it is to a 5090 performance. Why do you think your PC is immune to being placed in the same category as you place a console?

>>723611785
Not everyone lives in their childhood bedroom like you. Most don't have their PC in the living room. In first world countries, at least.

>>723637670
>No good exclusives
Just like PIS5 and Eggsbox SeX?
>no physical games
So?
>not worth the higher price of parts
But console is worth the higher price of games and online subscription?
>Especially not worth it since I only play single player games
How's that matter? I also exclusively play single player. On PC I can mod them and even pirate to get everything for free.

>>723626240
Yes, if you're not a retarded PCturdie.

>>723637864
the difference is that my standards are more aligned to the real world while you're utterly deranged and worshipping a corporation so much that you degenerated a point about power cables into sucking off nvidia?
anything above the newest console performance is good, that's the cutoff because at that point you get all the functionality of pc and performance you won't get on any console

>>723638084
>online subscription
why do people always miss out on the 300-400 game library which comes with the cheep sub?

I did in 1998

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>>723638084
Switch 2 alone has had more worthwhile exclusives than PC this year. Good for you if you need to mod in trans flags or whatever, though.

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>>723638179
You can get all those free or cheap on PC without paying for online

>>723638173
Your PC performance is not much better than the Pro console.
The same things you apply to consoles I'm applying to your PC. You can't run high fps at max settings, you can't run ray tracing, you can't run 4k. What exactly does your PC do? You might as well buy a fucking console

>>723637716
You don't even have a 2k monitor, lmao who cares about your shitty card?

>>723638347
>steeling things counts
lol

>>723638335
>worthwhile exclusives
it's always nice when you get to decide what's worthwhile, now in the real world pc still gets the vast majority of indie development that only occasionally gets ported to consoles and handhelds.

>>723638179
>Complain about not owning games on PC
>Look at this huge list of games I pay to not own on console, heh, bet you feel stupid right now

>>723638393
a 9070xt is 70% better than a ps5 pro, that's about the same distance as the 5090 is from the 9070xt
you don't get to call the 9070xt bad without calling the ps5 pro bad

>>723638485
>paying $2 per week to play a huge library of games
vs
>paying $40-50 per game

>>723638524
>PS5 Pro = best console you can buy
>9070xt = mid end junk gaming pc which can't do much
it isn't the same.

>>723638396
a console doesn't come with a tv and there's nothing about a pc that makes you require a monitor?

The real question is why would anyone build a pc anymore instead of buying a console that costs half as much to run the same games?
You have to upgrade graphics card at the same rate as console upgrades
The online costs break even with the startup cost of a pc in that time frame assuming you even play online
Managing a OS, drivers, and setting up steam big picture is always going to be a bigger pita than a console despite the cope
Console has really good digital sales these days and disks can be had for cheap for older games
Personally, I've never seen any steam exclusive worth playing it all looks like fotm slop
If you don't care about having the best graphics, console has surpassed pc. PC superiority is a meme that made sense 10 years ago

>>723638619
>mid end junk gaming pc which can't do much
it certainly can do more than any console, or my pc for that matter lmao.

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>>723638347
Anal obliteration will also be free were you'll end up

>>723638474
>no recent examples
Oh, because those all get ported to consoles. lol
I'll stick with having access to physical games then.

>>723638335
I admit nintendo has some decent exclusives, but only buying a nintendo console is retarded. They're only useful as a complement to your PC for the exclusives, and even then only until there's an emulator.
I mostly use mods to remove tranny flags from games, but you do you. It doesn't affect me so I don't mind you adding them to games unlike how you troons seethe whenever I mod my games to remove them.

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>>723638678
I'm not paying for online anymore

>>723638669
Go be a 1080 fag somewhere else

>>723638727
Can it game 4k? No
Can it do path tracing? No
Can it run high fps at max settings? No
You can call a console shit for not being capable of doing those things yet your PC can't do it either.
Your PC isn't the hot shit you believe it is. It's not much better than the console you're calling shit

>>723638619
>best console you can buy
bad dragons are the best dragon dildos you can buy but why are you buying dragon dildos to begin with?
consoles won't get 9070xt performance until 2031

>>723638783
>only until there's an emulator
PC turdie still thirsts for console games kek

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>>723638556
Paying? For games?

>>723638827
>console bad because performance is bad
>but my 9070xt is good because performance is bad
make some sense please

>>723638826
>It's not much better than the console you're calling shit
my pc can at least open a fucking browser.

>>723638812
tvs aren't free jamal

>>723638960
>what is gaming?

>>723638085
Really? Tell me how? As far as I know, you can't mod games on cucksoles.

>>723638923
the point of playing on pc is to get the features and the access to the platform
if your hardware is more powerful than any console in existence it's objectively better than any console no questions asked
again, why the fuck do you think you get to redefine good into best?

>>723638976
>why have only 1 device when you can have 5
consoles are just locked down pcs anon. there's functionally nothing different between your ps5 and my pc besides the proprietary software it runs on. but hey, if you want to pay extra to run a gimped pc be my guest.

>>723639089
>why the fuck do you think you get to redefine good into best?
says you who is defining performance of a console vs your shit PC

>>723638992
Is this your first time hearing about CFW? Go browse gbatemp for a few years.

>>723639107
>my pc can do internet and other stuff
people don't buy consoles to do internet and other stuff

>>723639196
>people don't buy consoles to do internet and other stuff
they don't because sony removed the fucking browser from their OS kek. can't have people jailbreaking their precious system.

>>723622343
This is PCope.

>>723639285
people don't buy a console for internet browsing. They buy consoles to play games.

>>723639145
the point of consoles to anyone with triple digit iq is value and you can build a ps5 pro equivalent pc for the same price
better than any console in existence is objectively good because of what pc as a platform innately offers and consoles become bad because they don't have those features
how hard is it for you to comprehend that there's a difference between good and best? do you need to go back to primary school to retake those english classes?

>>723639429
>you can build a ps5 pro equivalent pc for the same price
No you can't.
>how hard is it for you to comprehend that there's a difference between good and best?
How hard is it for you to comprehend that there's not much of a difference between your dogshit "gaming PC" and a PS5 Pro console.

>>723639429
Please show us that PC build we'll wait

>>723638974
I know, my living room setting (tv + audio system) is probably twice the price of a medium/good PC

>>723638485
>>Look at this huge list of games I pay to not own on console, heh, bet you feel stupid right now
You don't own your PC games either. Steam / Uplay etc can cancel your account when they feel like and you won't have your games.

I only have a console because my friends are consoletards otherwise I'd go PC

>>723640071
>my friends
lies

>>723639172
Is the PS5 cracked yet? Even if it is, there's significantly less mods for console versions of games because the market is smaller. Also, if you're recommending jailbreaking your console to access basic features like mods, I never want to hear you calling PCs too complicated again.

>>723639518
>>723639572
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/Jf9Yv4
this is actually considerably better considering how much better the cpu, ram and vram are

>there's not much of a difference between your dogshit "gaming PC" and a PS5 Pro console.
the difference is that it performs 70% better while also having significantly more features?
consoles at the equivalent hardware level are already worse given the lack of those features so much more hardware power is grounds for calling them bad

>>723639341
Can you point to what part of my post was false?

>>723610167
Mac

>>723638678
>buying a console that costs half as much to run the same games
Because the PC plays them better, you have more freedom, and can actually own your games. Wouldn't except a consoleslave to understand the value of that though.
>You have to upgrade graphics card at the same rate as console upgrades
You don't HAVE to. You can if you want to.
>The online costs break even with the startup cost of a pc in that time frame
Yes. So why go with an inferior console when they cost the same anyway?
>Managing a OS, drivers, and setting up steam big picture is always going to be a bigger pita than a console despite the cope
Even fucking Linux is basically plug and play nowadays. PC is somewhat more complex, yes, but not by much and it more than pays off in other ways such as freedom and better graphics.
>Console has really good digital sales these days and disks can be had for cheap for older games
Call me when consoles have perpetual 100% off sales like PC
>Personally, I've never seen any steam exclusive worth playing it all looks like fotm slop
And? Consoles don't even have exclusives anymore. Everything comes to PC.
>If you don't care about having the best graphics, console has surpassed pc.
How exactly is a locked down DRMbox superior to a free platform you can even use for a million things besides gaming?

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>>723635772
can you build nice bases in those turn-based strategies? can you see all those units swarm and surround my opponents and crush them underfoot?

>>723640250
Your GPU isn't 70% faster than a 9060xt