Who is the target audience?
>>723649932Vhs box aficionados
>>723649932>rainbow flagamericans probably
>>723649932ACK RaidersHehe, tell me I'm the first one to make this joke
>>723649932I'd say people who like tactical shooters, I have some very interesting and dynamic encounters since TTK is fairly high and there are lots of tools and the environment is conductive to that kind of tactical maneuvering gameplay. I hope it does well.
The modern audience>They never show up
>>723649932138k people playing the playtest just on steam. I uninstalled after 2 rounds but there are plenty of they/thems
>>723649932people who play free to play games. weird thing it isnt...
>>723649932I'm not into shooters period so definitely not me. However it's fascinating how many shooters are adopting this bland, sterile aesthetic and thinking it'll work out. Glancing at OP I thought it was a stealth Concord thread because this just looks like a Concord character. Meanwhile I've never touched overwatch but I know those shitty cartoon characters because to Blizzard's credit their character design team did a very good job. Gun to my head I'd play one of those shooters with memorable characters first and foremost.
>>723649932>nexonwhat the fuck? I expect better from them desu
>>723649932>someone gets the drop on my dumb ass >panic flail around>get myself behind cover>somehow squeeze out alive using whatever fucking shit i picked upnot really into extraction shooters but my asshole clenched like nothing else, high TTK is kino and im so fucking sick of zoomie cod instant death gamesdunno if ill buy this but, its fun enough i guess
>>723650834>tactical shooters>third personno one will ever take this game seriously.>>723649932This game is boring. I LIKE the battle royale genre. Extraction shooters are just BR with homework, this one is no different.
>>723649932there is something really weird about this gameif I only ever saw the posters and DEI trailers for it I wouldnt touch it in 100 years but after playing it, this became my most anticipated game of 2025genuine fun gameplay, I wish the devs werent fucking swedecucks
Should be PvE only Has great soundBut fortnite UIZoomer gameplayThird person clownmode
>>723649932>turn it on for the first time>popup logo appears>nothing happens>5 mins pass>nothing happens>click stop game on steam UI, thinking its bugged out so i can restart it>suddenly game starts up after i do this, then its fineThis happens every time btw, AMD user, doesnt matter how long i wait, it wont actually start until i click stop lol.I like the game, but there needs to be a much bigger penalty for initiating firefights, its extremely pro-griefer.
>>723649932Me and my brother.
>>723651359this, games woke, but not in an overly insufferable way. The problem with woke devs is they simply don't listen to the audience, they're incapable of responding properly to audience feedback. If they can figure out how to improve the dynamic of teamplay and make the average encounter with other teams not an instant firefight 100% of the time, i think i'd love this game. As it is im very on the fence for buying it.
>>723651359>genuine fun gameplayfor me it's the opposite of fun>spawn on map>scavenge for materials for 20 minutes>get exit camped by some faggot at the end>30 minutes of your life wasted with nothing to show for itI'm having trouble seeing the enjoyment in this
>>723651887>they're incapable of responding properly to audience feedbackI'd say they respond pretty quickly to downright broken shit in The Finals
>>723652364you mean patch out the fun stuff
>>723649932troons, judging by the aesthetic
>>723649932Has anyone here played the TT2? I swear this feels like a different experience even ignoring the locked content.
>>723653173I haven't but, I've seen that mentioned a few times even outside of here
>>723652647>patch out the fun stuffnah, light is still way too powerful
>>723653173yeah, tt2 was my biggest surprise hit this year and Ive been counting days till release but this test felt like complete shit and ruined all my hypeI honestly dont understand the decisions behind it and it feels like self-sabotage >1 mapand they picked the worst fucking one, buried city is kino and space port is much more interesting than dam>locked progressionmost retarded idea, people wouldnt be able to progress that far anyway in 2 days but now most didnt interact with the loot and management mechanics at allin the first test you were constantly looting specific items to upgrade you stuff, craft weapons, upgrade workbenches etc. but here 99% of all loot was pointlessand lets not forget all the technical issues>people had to download the playtest twice>constant server issues, desync, packet loss>runs worse than last test while also looking worse>micro stutters and crashesI had absolutely 0 issues in tt2 and back then I played with a much worse GPU but they somehow made the game alot worse
>>723652364>>723652647I almost loved the finals but fell off when they started adding a bunch of faggot melee weapons and only giving new gear to light players. haven't even launched it in like 6 months. if Arc gets the same kind of support as the finals, it will literally become the worst game ever made by summer
>>723649932Concord fanbase
>>723651136the ttk is the only reason i'm playing it. that and the movement feels good. enough for skill expression, but no bouncing off the walls kinda shit
>>723651359>genuine fun gameplaythis is what I don't get, why is this piece of shit so hyped up when the gameplay is genuinely and objectively worse than every other extraction game out there?
>>723649932I don't understand why this game is not F2P. I give it 2 weeks before it falls under 10k players.
>>723654229>only giving new gear to light players.they made it even worselast season both light and heavy got healing gadgets, further fucking up the inter-class balance
any game this fag praises i stay far as fuck away from, sorry shills
>>723655292>why this game is not F2Pnexon probably. the initial deal likely states that the game must make X amount of money, and Embark can't guarantee said money if they make a second f2ß game
>>723655487>bases his opinion off other peoplebet you let your wife see other people too
>>723655292They know this 2 weeks game type. At least they will grab something from it.
>>723655292>extraction shooter>$30 >live since 2019Cope.
I like the game surprisingly, I don't know if I like it $40 much but it's good overall. Won't buy it on sale later tho, there will be too many sweats and niggas with meta rape guns that kill you instantly. Also the high TTK is kino, I forgot how good it can feel when it's done right, got sick of the insta die killslop shooters recently, and that's all of them.Also not a fan of 3rd person in such a campey slow paced game, don't like getting corner peaked every fight.It'll flop unfortunately but oh well
>>723651075what do you expect from them then
>>723649932Gay extraction shooter
>>723656630Extraction shooters were never that popular
>>723654113I remembered being able to enjoy solos during the TT2 but not really in this test. I genuinely can't figure out why is this the case. It's crazy how I went from>try out the server slam and i'll probably buy itto>waiting out on launch and see how the game goes in the long-run.My concern from the TT2 was the gameplay loop and the progression but now that's locked behind. Maybe I'm just realizing extraction shooters aren't my thing.
>>723657450>enjoy solos during the TT2 but not really in this testwhat changed?I haven't played the previous betas but my experience in the first one has been nothing but miserable:>spawn in>loot for 20 minutes>aggro some robots>engage>try heal up>get clapped by enemy player>lose hours of gameplay since your best gear is gone
>>723656630cope with what? hunt is actually good unlike arc raiders dumbass retard
>>723657969Holy malding
>>723655292all they really need is for people to play for more than 2 hours, I don't really think they care if it flops beyond the refund point.
>>723655292True, making these games paid almost guarantees dead servers.
>>723657450the AI is much MUCH more aggresive and tanky in this test than it was in the betaback then you could easily one tap wasps with an anvil and I dont remember hornets being such a pain in the assIve had rounds where the rocketeer was wiping the entire fucking server, you see flares popping up after every rocket it was like new years eve ffsthey really overdid it with the bots
This thread died as quick as the game will when it releases on the 30th. Kek
>>723649932>I hate 3PP I wish ARC Raiders had 1PP!!
>>723655292no thirdies and cheaters sounds like a big perk to me
>>723659784>no one using the camera to look 360 degrees from the safety of cover/bushes
>>723649932I think theres a bell curve of retards who go this game sucks because they die and quit in 2 seconds without trying to play and get better. Then theres midwits who think they are pvp pro tryhards but are actually average and just dominate all the casual solos and fail to realize how extremely shallow the design is. Then there are smart or hardcore pvpers who say this game sucks because its shallow and the ttl is fast and its mostly you looting garbage and killing people who are looting or dont see you or having that happen to you.
this game suffers the same problem as any other third person shooter: two sides just sit behind a corner, looking around using the third-person view and refusing to peek because that would put them at a disadvantagethe best fights i've had were when we were stumbling upon enemy teams at close range somewhere in the woods, running around rocks and bushes trying to outmaneuver the enemies
>>723658298I did 2 free loot runs where I went to explore hydroponics domes because I havnt been there yet. On the first one I got oneshot by the rocket drone that saw me through foliage and I didnt see him at all.On the 2nd run I found an arpagio and killed 2 dudes, ran to hydroponics, killed a 3rd dude in the field base box inserter tube structure but 2 hornets were on me hovering outside.I ran out of ammo fighting them as they peered in from one doorway to another. I kept dodging and juking by running outside then inside. My free loadout gave me the 80 dmg grenades so I waited for them to come in close to the door and chucked the nades. Killed them and got out. I was already full of stuff long before.Anyways all the pvp sucked because it was just me magdumping into the players heads before they did it to me faster.
literally the first building i went into in this game i got oneshot by some faggot with a nigger avatar sat around a corner watching the entire length of a hallway with a shotgunzero counterplay, zero mitigationcant wait to see this game get end of service'd in a year just like the cycle frontier
the green-tier pistol is actually surprisingly good>easily controllable>fast reload>mag holds nearly 30 rounds with upgradesdowned entire squads with it
>>723659784What stalker modpack is this?
>>723649932not me
>>723649932Non COD / BF6 faggotsBasically people with brains
>>723649932Console cucks who have been watching Tarkov on twitch.>>723650983ARC RAIDERS is not F2P. It will cost $30/€30 on release
>>723660209someone in this or the previous thread already posted a clip of a team of 3 shameless cheaters running around at hyper speed meleeing everyone to death.
>>723661702after awhile you get a sense for vibechecking corners with grenades.
>>723662051in the average game you will pass a few dozen corners and doorways minimum before extraction, how many nades are you supposed to bring? not to mention it attracts attention.Are you gonna give good advice on how to stop campers being cancerous shitstains or just trot out more wildly impractical advice?
>>723649932>created by former devs of Dice who hated EAs control over them like forcing 2042 to have a BR>go on to form independent studio and make absolute streamer slop gamesEA was in the right here
>>723662051>>723662172>fill half your inventory with grenades to solve an issue that the developers created themselvesor.... the game couldve just been designed around 1st person from the get gotheres already a million different audio cues playing and if it really came down to it you could just have an ESP pulse item balanced around it telling people where you are nearby if you use it
>>723662197for once, maybe yeah
>>723662197those aren't the people that worked on 2042Embark are ex-DICE refugees from the BF5/Battlefront 2 era
friendslop.I played about 20 matches over the course of the weekend, unlocked the available weapon recipes, and when I was able to start making them consistently, it was crazy easy.
>>723662051>after awhile you get a sensethere is no sense to get. you barely hear players coming and when they're close, they one-shot your armor away and either gang up on you keep lay down fire that you cannot avoid or heal awayPVP does not feel good in any way-
>>723662197These are the guys who got shitcanned for blundering BFV and causing it to underperform. Nobody at dice saw any repercussions for BF2042 cause everyone knew they were thrown under the bus by EA to deliver a battle royale for the covid crowd.
>>723649932People with friends>not me
I hate how you have no control over where you spawn in, that's the stupidest fucking thing on the planet.Woops, didn't get sent in where you need to go for a quest? You're fucked, run it back.Oh you wanted to try and get specific items? Hope you get there before everyone runs through naked, extracts with it, and leaves you stuck in an empty map!Also bots have too much health. Players are pretty consistent, but the robots need more defined weakspots so you don't have to use 10-20 bullets.
>>723661702>zero counterplay, zero mitigationzero brain the other guy didnt spawn behind a corner with a shotgun and I doubt he was camping a random fucking corner for 20 minuteshe either saw or heard you and prepared an ambushas for how to avoid it, open your eyes and look for traces of other playersbroken doors, cameras, bots or even dead bodies are a sign that something might be off
>>723651359> I wish the devs werent fucking swedecucksfunny since swedes make some of the best games out there
>>723662751>he either saw or heard you and prepared an ambushuhh yes anon i said how he saw me by looking around a corner in 3rd personhe could see me but theres no way i could see him. how am i supposed to hear him if he just sits there all game making no noise?>as for how to avoid it, open your eyes and look for traces of other players>broken doors, cameras, bots or even dead bodies are a sign that something might be offevery building in this game looks like an apocalyptic trashed shithole
>>723662009yeah in a free demo
>>723662604There needs to be some kind of Raider sense, similar to how TLOU's Factions does (listen mode) that lets you see the visual of people creeping around. As much as i hate the idea of giving people a wallhack it's a necessary evil to prevent corner humping shitters.
>>723663068>wallhackshow about no?They could just make footstep audio louder or reward communication and squad co-op so that not every player encounter ends in a shootout
hardcore streamers
>>723649932This game makes perfect sense as a coop pve game. Its garbage as a pvp one. Corner camping is rampant and progression is nonsensical.
me and some guys I met just rando queueing have been back to back running control tower via the drop down cheesewe did it once during an electrical storm and like 5-6 teams had all beelined straight for control tower control tower is the hotspotprotip: just bring a ferro, ammo, 5 adrenalineand nonstop sprint straight for the lower entrance to control tower, even if you spawn super far away you probably are first to actually go up the toweryou can also zipline down to avoid needing to unlock the door, if you go outside on the ledge all the way you can look down and see a ramped area beneath you, you can get a zipline to attach to that area and then survive the fall damage from therePicture in your minds eye the face of a non-ratfuck player hyped to have gotten a key to dam control tower, only to use it and find the entire place already emptied
>>723662432>>723662640BFV was forced to have a BR too
>>723663068do people actually think others are just waiting in some corner waiting for something to happen whenever they get jumped on?people are always moving and going through their own objectives, you just have bad game sense if you're constantly the one being heard or seen first, pay attention to your own footprintalso use smoke grenades if you're pinned down
>>723663278louder footstep audio just exacerbates the problem, because passive playstyles of hiding in corners just become more powerful. expecting player communication and squad co op is just utopian, if you play with friends on comms you unironically are not playing the same game as 99% of the playerbase.
>>72366367890% of ever match I've joined as a solo queue has had everyone in the squad miced up and communicatingYou do not play the game.
>>723663756>solo queue>squad miced up???
Still beats me how the hell the same people that did the finals made gunplay so uninspired and sad.Guns look like those crapshooters from fo4. Maybe its tps genre that does the final nail in the coffin for me but helldivers guns felt and looked much better than this crap
>>723664631squad fill is turned on by default, so you get put in a trio with 2 randosyou do not play the game
>>723651306>no one will ever take this game seriously.Good. Fuck e-sports ruining every game that comes out.
>>723664679Using the Torrente is pure sex, they all do look weird and fugly but i am rarely looking at my guns, I am using them to shoot 80 rounds down a hallway because I think I maybe saw a guy
>>723649932All my other issues with the game aside, making so much of the more interesting gear unavailable is baffling to me. You'd think they'd want to throw that stuff at new players during their glorified demo weekend to hook them into buying.
>>723663756every solo match I've played was seemingly all solos, definitely feels like there are queue pools
>>723663567Yeah, but Firestorm was actually fun and mostly got screwed over by not being f2p. Wait, that sounds familiar.
Why is it impossible to avoid bots?
>>723651306If you think TPSs can't be tactical then you're a retard who should take a bath with your toaster.
>>723664908>because I think I maybe saw a guyBased schizoI do too
Been doing free kits to loot the Harvester, its really fucking easy. Get all the good blueprints for energy weapons day 1 probably. Obviously can't craft but one of those things they need to make harder or its going be free kits doing it every raid. That or make the Queen+Harvester actually rare
>>723649932>equip good gear to go to the difficult areas>spawn in next to Hydra rocket and get rapedah, well bad luck. i'll use the rest of my good stuff to recoup the investm->it happens againdeleted the game just now
>>723649932Homosexuals
>>723649932I find it funny this game isn't being roasted for it's aesthetics, it's just Concord with some grime and dust. Gaymers are whores.
>>723650545I fucking hate that the sight of a rainbow now means GAY
>>723667282depends on what you mean by aesthetics, the environment looks great, the characters and their clothes look horrendous, but its also just beating a dead horse, anyone with eyes and isnt an embark employee can see it looks like dogshit
>>723666920Where's the harvester?
Wait people consider this game high TTK? Deaths feel almost instantaneous to me. Like less than 2 seconds. Maybe I'm too used to Halo and boomer shooters.
>>723667468Same rainbow themed "retro" sci-fi full of gay mulattos. I have no idea how enviroments even looked in Concord but I don't think THAT was the issue for anyone. Anyway just look at this shit https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xuftkDxjGT4Some dumb cunt talking about "BOLD resistance" or whatever, everything soaked in incessant hopepunk. This is vastly woker than Concord desu
>>723652284Use keys to escape, throw the "fuck you" wasp alarm (wasp driver I think? Sensor?) At them, use smokeI think the real problem is I'm not sure what the point is to looting except to build up a stock of flawless gear, and then it's a deathmatch game
Me, I preorderedsounds like a skill issue on your end
>>723668169When you move past light shields yes, ttk is insane. You get triple or even quadruple the health pool in your shield, you can stock shields in your inventory to hotswap without having to charge, and then of course, yes, you have chargers.I ran a match with 6 med shields earlier, basically invincible, there's no limiter in swapping shields out in real time, so unless you're in very close quarters you're functionally invulnerable.
>>723667663In the red water, doesn't spawn everytime but they announce it when you spawn in and it shows up on the map. The queen patrols, but you just run behind her and go inside. The flying enemies that come actually protect you while you do the shit inside which as a solo does take time compared to a trio. As 3 people you can definitely blitz it.
>>723649932Streamers and retards, who enjoy ruining other peoples day.
>>723668169compare to tarkov you go lights out in 1 sniper shot, a ttk of 0
Its hilarious when people pretend extraction shooters, especially third person ones, require skill.
>>723661702>zero counter playI guess you don't know how to count spawns and remember them to your advantage?
>>723662736just run a free setup, if I didn't get the zipline I'd just surrender then go in again.
>>723649932>Who is the target audience?-post apocalyptic dystopia where humans hide from AI like roaches-despite human life now being endangered, humans kill each other for minor wealth advantage-guns guns gunsthis is the America simulator you play till GTA6
>>723649932They made this shit look so fucking gay with the rainbow and tranny looking robot lmfao
>>723659784yes because it gives you nfl sky cam corner peaking. SCUM solved this issue but apparently this is unknown tech to the arc raiders devs.
>>723668359prestiges and ranked will be the main progression drivers, I think they should have dangled that over people's heads harder
>stable performance, tons of polished content, not afraid to take risks with its gameplay loop, all for less than $60>Impossible to discuss on /v/ because the devs decided to use a rainbow motif on the cover
>>723668359Smoke, foliage, even outside cover doesn't work on the bots >t. tried everything multiple times
>>72364993240 + premium currencyHARD pass.I like the enemy physics, but losing shit permanently will never be fun, esp.Also you can get certain gameplay stuff in the likely eventually premium bought 'decks' (bp) and I read somewhere they changed the storage upgrades to not feature 500 premium buck buy tiers, but if not, also too pay2winish for me.Pass
>>723661702I guess that's why extraction shooters die so fast. There is no point when this is the norm, and anyone defending it is ultimately cannibalising the remaining players. The game will die shortly after release.
>>723670373it's not an issue to begin with and your "solution" is trash
>>723670698a polished turd is still a pile of shit
So does the defib only work if you're downed or can you use it on someone fully knocked out?
>>723670981Only downed, if someone is fully dead its over.
>>723670108The rainbow was a sign from god to Noah when he built the ark (arc) and waited out the flood you fucking idiot. It’s only fags like you that attribute the symbol of the rainbow as a gay symbol. Arc Raiders is a Christian game.
I see prideshit, I swipe left
>>723671047Based?
>>723670698>not afraid to take risks with its gameplayThe same can't be said with there art direction breh have you seen their logo and boring robot designs SHHHHHHHHEEEEEEEESSSSSHHHHHH>>723671047>arc = arkTell me how I know you kneel for BLM chud
I wanted to say that the devs are retarded for releasing this game right before Marathon but I just looked up and it was delayed until 2026
>marathroon
>>723671405>marathon
>>723652771>somewhat interesting game with troon aesthetics Is this the next year rule?
>>723649932>free loadouts>extraction points camping>everybody is doing itThis meta just killed this game on arrival.
I still don't know what an extraction shooter is
>>723671734It's a game where you shoot then extract
>>723662981no one waits all game to specifically kill clueless newbies, you're just too loud and visible and has no survival instincts so naturally someone anticipated and dealt with you
>>723671769>no one waits all game to specifically kill clueless newbiesclearly youve never played this genre of game before
Extraction shooters are all filled with cheaters
>>723671856I know how much people bitch and write up wild narratives about how each and every one of their deaths were unavoidable somehow the game's fault, happens in every genre.What people perceive as camping is exits is 90% of the time just other people looking to exit too and seeing a headless chicken in the way.
>>723671856yeah nah, I tried this game out and 80% of the bitching I see in here are literal retard tier skill issues
>third person extraction shooterActual worst game idea of all time?
>>723671913People will regret wasting forty bucks on it a day after release.
these games always spiral the shitter unless they're objective based ie. hunt. Throwing a lobby of players into a pointless open world in the sweatiest dogshit crabpile of godkits where everyone is too scared to walk forward just doesnt work and never will. full loot pvp is zzzzzzzz gameplay.
>>723671023Kinda sucks there isn't ANYthing that can bring them back. They aren't dead, the game's mechanic says you knock them out
>>723670828>it's not an issue to beginlol>and your "solution" is trash>fixes corner peakingseems like the perfect solution to me
>>723649932>third personinto the trash
All I want is a free zipline EVERY free loadout
>>723672445they should make one of these extraction shooter things but like, do wacky shitless realistic tactical and more, "oh shit some nigga found an orbital laser get the FUCK OUT"
>>723662981Based correct opinion
>>723672445Whats really sad is a great concept for a PvE game was killed for this cash grab that'll die in a week because no one likes extraction shooters
>>723672358>>723671913cheaters are the only thing keeping me from buying right away desuhttps://files.catbox.moe/kq2scd.mp4
>>723662981>every building in this game looks like an apocalyptic trashed shithole he means down bots and camera and open doors that are always locked retard.
>>723673078you might get your wish when the playercount plummets to zero and they pull the tarkov ripcord and cut pvp entirely.
>>723672773GTA 5 Online literally has an orbital laser, considering the fact that T2 (owners of R*) acquired FiveM, the largest hub of GTA V private servers, that could be done in a private server.There are already zombie survival mods, I'm betting someone could just make the entire server map an extraction looter. AND include those wacky things
DOA Raiders
Just when you think you're safe, just when you think you're alone and that you're going to make it out alright... That's when I'll be watching.. waiting to strike at the opportune moment...
>>723649932no one apparently
If anyone wants to know where an osprey spawns, X marks the spot
>spawn in so far away from everything>nakeds already looted everything and exfil'd>rest of the map doing the exploit into the keyroom and when they get knocked they fall off into an unreachable part of the mapbig contender for biggest personal disappointment in years
>>723673732>>723674814>muh free to play weekend
>>723673615I doubt it to be honest, I think the game will flop and the studio will be dead after 6 months. Nexon will cut them out.
I think if you were to design the worst game idea ever, it would be pretty close to an extraction shooter.
>>723675023Guaranteed or what, cause they can spawn randomly in any of those weapon containers.
>>723673732>>723674814>the game only moved up one spot on the most wishlisted and top sellers list after the playtestThis playtest was a complete failure, lmao.
>>723675854agree but also x100000 when you remove the tacticool gear element that made tarkov somewhat appealing in the first place
>>723651679>amd userlmao
>>723675982No, not guaranteed. I just went back the next round and the box wasn't there on the bench. But its one of the spawns
I'm really confused by the retards being disappointed by the game being PvPvE. If it was just pve it'd be boring as fuck because bots are not much of a threat at all and are pretty much just patrolling obstacles you just sometimes have to deal with by revealing yourself to other players. Devs realized that the game was boring as just a pve themselves and added pvp, and they admitted that themselves. Guns feel great. Sound design is incredible, just wish footsteps were even clearer. Just had a run where killed like 8 retards all going for the tower with Venator. Biggest issue of playtest is no progression at all, meaning all the fags keep on rushing control tower for exploit, stacking up on free guns you can get there and turning lobbies into an arena filled with dead bodies in the research center or hydroponics. That exploit REALLY needs to be patched once the full game comes out
>>723675534>rest of the map doing the exploit into the keyroomHow do you do that?
>>723676009>the game only moved up one spot on the most wishlistedit didn't move at all
>>723676884I think the idea is if they focused on only PVE it could be "better" than it is but even the old trailer looked kinda whateverhttps://youtu.be/xuftkDxjGT4?t=50
>>723676910
>>723649932Raider flair should be on by default for every player.
>>723649932Starfield audience
>>723676975This just looks like Helldivers 2
>>723676884>guns feel great3rd person bloom gunplay will never feel great under any circumstances. They added boring pvp to spice up their boring pve game.
I wonder why faggots are crying about it being "another extraction shooter" when in reality there's no real extraction shooters out in the market other than tarkov(everything else is DEAD) But why the fuck would you want to get into that cesspool when new shit it out>>723676975They did try to focus on pve. And it wasn't working out. Maybe down the line they'll cuck out like tarkov did, but I hope that won't happen anytime soon.>>723677236Aim better. So far it felt like the most accurate 3ps I've ever played to the point it feels like bullets are actually magnetic or the hitboxes are fat as fuck
>take good shit>find nothing but trash, lose fights and die>take free loadout>back to back kills, cant even hold all these purples/oranges
>>723676964You can also jump from that height and lose only half of your health.
>>723677106This is leagues ahead of starfield
>throw a heavy grenade at the feet of 3 faggots>within 5 feet of all of them>only damages two; one for 10 and the other for 40Yeah, this game can go fuck itself. Don't bother ever making PvP if your shit doesn't even work.
>>723662981if he could of saw you using 3rd person then you could of seen him using 3rd person, you're just retarded and refusing to take any accountability on fucking up
cooking up somethin
>>723677401>muh skill issue amirite?yes complaining about anti-skill bullshit like bloom is a skill issue>So far it felt like the most accurate 3psPUBG started as 3rd person and had no bloom and much better gunplay, they have obviously gimped the gunplay for the console audience. I noticed when I played that there was some sort of mouse deceleration stopping you from turning too fast, another concession to consoleshitters. 3rd person is always inferior for pvp, it encourages the most degenerate playstyles of any shooters and it's especially bad for an extraction shooter because it completely kills the tension when you can survey everything around you from safety.
>>723678291streamerslop
>>723678442>if he could of saw you>calls others retardedNexon aren't sending their best
>>723678442>/v/ still pretends to not understand how angles work
Yellow or Red? Faster looting and field crafting vs Stamina which is king. Feels like you got 11 into Mobility for the left tree and get the stamina max+less stamina to move around then go for the red tree for the looting speed.
>>723676937Kek
>>723676964Oh look. A faggot camping the extraction from a rooftop. What riveting gameplay.
>>723678679Field crafting is so good especially solo
>>723678850
>>723678850Yeah and there is one dude level below, one in the bushes and one in the building to the right. And north extraction is even bigger clusterfuck.
>>723678676>know its a third person game>expect someone around any corner>start blasting the second i see someone pop aroundmeanwhile retards like you:>HURRR DURR WHER LOOT>holding sprint everywhere you go>sprint around a corner just so you can get to loot faster>get killed because you have spatial awareness of a brick >WOOOOOW THIRD PERSON IS CHEATINGit reminds me of that one dark souls image
lol the campers people are complaining about are the only ones actually playing and posting gameplay
Do NOT go into those two apartment buildings in the north/northwest portion of the map.Worst mistake of my life!
>>723650545>>723667341I've been thinking about taking back the Biblical rainbow that signifies God's Covenant with Man after the flood. it's not a gay rainbow, it's a biblical rainbow.
>>723679116Dont play, more like >>723676937 >>723673732 >>723674814
>serious balance issues that will plague the game forever because its embark and they can't spend any more budget on itIt will fall off in 3 months, BF6 BR will pull a lot of players out of this.There's no marketplace or any interesting loot but to get generic parts to pay for your loadout to.. get generic parts again.Not caring about losing loadouts so much that it's not interesting to even queue into a match to get the mats for them.
>>723679405>hurr durr just expect a person camping behind every cornerholy shit you are fucking retarded, the person corner camping still has the advantage no matter how prepared you are.
>>723680385I do think the BF BR will suffer from having vehicles in it, even if they are rare. It takes you having one great match, and dying to someone who got a tank via luck to be over it.The BR mode is also DOA if they do loadouts like Warzone. Its the #1 thing even Warzone people complain about these days, everyone has more fond memories of Blackout
So is 4chan just going to go insane and kill itself when this game has like a million players at launch?
>>723680983I'd be surprised if this had a million, purely because this was a good demo for people to not play if they didn't immediately click with it.
>>723680983>i-i-it's going to have a million players at launchsure it will
I kept leaving raids with full inventories, even a few purple things and yet after 20ish raids I don't have the materials to craft any weapons beyond commons
>>723681238Need blueprints for some, and any blues requires higher benches. Also alot of the material you can salvage from other items.Either way, the last test and full game had a fabricator in the hideout where you could straight up make those parts you need.
>>723680983>a millionBF playtest in august had like +500K on playtest in Aug, +700K on launch.This game has +100K right now, and only ~250K in their discord.
>>723680983im amazed it got 180k but I feel like it has to have less than 100k on launch, there's a big difference between $40 and $0I have it wishlisted and was considering buying it until I played it for 2 days and realized it was shiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiit
>>723681238You'd be better off just going in solo, searching spots where they have a chance to spawn and extracting to pile them up.
GTA5/6 has/will have everything we need in a private server, just make people spawn in randomly and have weapons and stuff all over - I think this next GTA will be the best in terms in private server gameplay.
>>723680983My friends and I played it, and that's 3 active players that won't be buying it, the numbers won't be anywhere near a million lol
>>723680983DUNE died because they had to cater to their chinese overlords. Arc already had to pull a TITAN/Overwatch for this and couldn't learn from Tarkov/Hunt balancing issues.They play tested for the asian market and that was a tremendous mistake because people really enjoy co-op looter shooters, especially since Destiny fell off and chinese aren't known to do co-op because they starved and its every man for themselves even if they can't use everything they harvest and hoard.
>>723681238A lot of stuff is locked until the game releases, which itemization will crash because eu/sea will dupe the fuck out of everything that's good and devs won't be allowed to stop them.
>>723681604Dune as in dune awakening? That game died because there was no actual pvp base raiding, and extremely limited weapon and enemy variety. Dune was the wrong IP to make into survival crafting slop, not to mention how terrible UE5 runs. They should've just made Conan Exiles 2.
It's alright, but has no legs. The regional pricing jewery means the playerbase will be much smaller than it could have been too.
>>723681604>people really enjoy co-op looter shootersUuuhh...
>>723680983check out the steam forums, this has Mixed steam reviews written all over it.
>>723681924Only desperate coomers play this shit.
It has the most generic and dry artstyle, aesthetic, and dialogue. I wouldn't be surprised if ChatGPT designed it
I'm kind of surprised all my Hunt: Showdown friends are playing it but I think it's more that the game has run its course and they're looking for something new. However, this game does not have the thematic or aesthetic appeal that Hunt does, so I'm not particularly interested.
>>723680983Least obvious shart raiders dev
It's funny how when there is a new addition to the niche genre of extraction shooters, it seems like everyone else is desperate for it to not be an extraction shooter and some other dogshit oversaturated genre. You already have other games, this one was made for us, fuck off or get good bitch
>>723682868Nobody said or wanted that.
>>723682868my nigger, extraction shooters are not niche
>>723650834>Tarkov clone>$60 compared to Marathons $40It's gonna flop.
>>723649932streamers and people trying to get in lobbies with "their" streamersthat's it
I liked Marauders, I felt that game had a cool setting. Too bad nobody played it
>>723682989nta but name more than 5 popular extraction shooters.
>>723651679Your CPU doesn't have anything to do with it. It's the TWO (2) anti-cheats kicking in.
>>723682989tarkovhunt showdowndark and darkergray zone warfarejackie chan
>>723682898literally every thread here or on reddit (which is the exact same audience fuck off) is begging for a PVE mode because they're shitters
>>723683148>forgetting the new king DUCKOV
>>723683148dark and darker, my favorite extraction SHOOTER
>>723670373Wow, that's a stupid solution. You know what solves it? Not having TPP in a multiplayer that is encouraging one-life-to-live bullshit.
>No FPP modeYeah when this game's playerbase drops faster than BF6, they're going to add it, but it will be too late.
I didn't even think third person was a problem until I was crouch walking down a hallway only for someone to just come out and blast the shit out of me and then I realized he could see me coming without me seeing any part of him at all. No point in even trying to stealth when people can see you coming and you don't even know it
>>723676009Needing EpigOnlineSpyware.dll to phone home to Epig's chinese malware servers does that for you.>Can't boot up if you DNS sinkhole Epig's servers>Suddenly can play fine if you let them rape your dataNo thank you.
>>723683050Here you go, not even counting extraction sidemodes like CoD Warzone's DMZ or BF2042 Hazard Zone. Both of which were trend chasing flops
Game will be aids once everyone learns player spawns and you get camped on raid enter
>>723649932>body type 1 & 2shant
>>723683690Dmz is the most popular extraction shooter of all time
>>723683493Well, generally, you try to be stealthy so they don't look your way. Sneaking up on people is much harder from the direction they're facing
>>723673092I mean Easy's been cracked forever. But their second one doesn't even try to prevent this? Holy shit.
>>723683690some of those aren't even out yet and a lot are single playerextraction shooters are a niche genre if you have to bring up shit like marauders
>>723683050You seriously think it can be niche when every single big developer has their own extraction shooter? And none are popular because the genre sucks.
>>723683000wtf is a marathons
>>723683847>player 1 in room making noise>player 2 in different room crouch walking over to get the drop on them>player 1 walks near doorway where player 2 is coming from and can see them coming with their third person camera>player 2 is unaware their cover is blown and dieshard to know what direction they're currently facing behind a fucking wall, retard.
>>723683843>Dmz is the most popular extraction shooter of all timeSo popular it never even left beta and got 0 updates after 1 year of its existance
>>723684070extraction shooter made by concord devs
>>723683690>quasimorph5 players = popular?!?!?!?>zero sievertsingle player top down stalker, also 5 players>arena breakoutthat's 1>maraudersdeleted>gray zoneI guess that can be 2 but post numbers if you really think so>delta forceonly the battlefield mode is popular, the extraction mode is deserted >tarkovthat counts>huntalso counts>duckovchinese astroturfing, will fall off just like zero sievert, single player>VoA(?)literal who>arc raiderswill be but not out>marathonlol, lmaoOn this list there are 3 legit extraction shooters with active communities, as well as 1 that is in pre-alpha and might get there 1 day, and 1 that will be added to the list when it is released in a week-ish. Tell me again how this is not a niche genre? Which one of these other than AR is third person?
>>723649932holy shit that's ugly
>>723683946>some of those aren't even out yet and a lot are single player >extraction shooters are a niche genre if you have to bring up shit like marauders
can we all agree Marauders was fun tho
>>723684171It’s a beta. Why would it get content updates? The final game is coming out next year. A beta became the most popular extraction shooter. That’s how dead the extraction shooter is.
>>723684227Quasimorph is also singleplayer but is much worse than Stoneshard which clears all those other games by far
>>723684267NTA nigger you made that list to try and claim that it's not a niche genre and just proved that it is, you're the one moving the goalposts jesus what a fucking retard
>>723649932PEOPLE WITH 2 FRIENDS AHAHAHA EVERYONE IN /V/ GET FILTERED
Battle royales are more fun than extraction shooters because you don't need to collect ten fermented foreskins to upgrade your base so you can have enough room in your stash to hold twenty blown out rectums so you can craft your legendary ass fister and instead you just find it in the fucking mission and equip it and have fun.
>normalfags have to watch tranny flag loading in inventory slots every time they pick something upother than that it's just the worst example of (well, the best example) video games' future. endless ai generated ue5 maps with fuckhuge corridors for no reason other than to pad out the time. imagine playing system shock only you walk for 45 mins before you encounter a hybrid.
>>723649932If you liked 3rd person mode in Modern Warfare 2 then you'll like Arc Raiders
I dont get it. It’s just fortnite for slow people with no skill.
>>723684464The larger the map and the more given freedom the better, BR just gets stale. You just want PVP, EL is for extra on top
>>723684464Tarkov provides more intense moments and dopamine injections for me, and knowing you rob people of X time and Y in-game rouble investments is really satisfying to me.
>>723649932wtf with this incoherent design for extraction shooter ?>shitty rainbow lines>characters more like a clown and ready to hangout somewhere instead doing shooting and extraction.
>>723683690>quazimorphgreat but niche as fuck>zero sievertniche as fuck>arena breakout>gray zone>delta forcestillborn "tarkov killers">marauders>beautiful lightnever even heard of it>duckovmeme chinaman game>marathontoo early to tell, but I dont think bungie can pull itself from the pit of that pr disasterso youre left with hunt showdown and just tarkov
Here's the tranny flag in inventory screen that constantly loads up
>>723684448>squad fill on>voice emotes onAGP activated
>>723684538That's why I like playing Ark and Conan, but I hate it in these games because everything you work for is often gone in a few seconds with no counterplay, as nice as it is to be in the other end of it sometimes
>>723649932graphics this, sound design that. nobody cares unless you pull another crysisthe game tries to be different and the style feels like it should be unique but it still somehow manages to be completely soulless, how did they do it?gameplay could be any other tps
>>723684595>she watches e celebs>cockcarnage
>>723670698>be toddler>burn self on stove>recognize the glow of hot metal going forward>lib presents another piece of media that promises to be good>I'm not supposed to recognize the signs that befell every other POS game I've been asked to buy beforeI gave it a chance with the beta but there are 0 new ideas/gameplay/strategies that the division didn't do better a decade ago
>>723684324>It’s a beta. Why would it get content updates?Because the devs said it would? Did you forget how the devs added 4 maps to DMZ mode, mew faction missions, gear? Did you actually even play it?
>>723671047>Christian gameThe character creator screams California degenerate thoughbeit
>>723684720Feel free to argue but the Dark Zone in Division 2 was an immense step down from Div1 and Ubisoft still owes backpayments on that
>>723684790I didnt know i was talking to an actual retard so i didnt know i had to iterate the obvious. It got no updates after the beta period, because it was a beta.
>>723679634How do you plan on doing that?
>>723649932ACK gaiders
>>723649932War criminals>Surrender or team up with a rando>Shoot him in the backgg ez
>>723649932Normies who can't into the OG DayZ. (((Extraction shooters))) and their inbred sibling (((battle royale))) games are the worst of the worst. I want to go back to the more hardcore DayZ era. Not this zoomer (((seasonal content))) bullshit.
>>723665564Zoomers on suicide watch. Thank god filth like Forknife exists so you zoomers can't fuck up tactical shooters with flavor-of-the-month-skin-crossover-festivals. The zoomer mind cannot comprehend a game where they can't constantly see themselves.
>>723684925>It’s a beta. Why would it get content updates?the beta infact did get multiple content updates>It got no updates after the beta period, because it was a beta.I accept your concession anon.
>>723678442Mirrors must seem like magic to you
>>723649932What's with the forced hype for this game? The Finals also had forced hyped and nobody played it, didn't anybody learn?
>>723655487Who?
>>723685056He doesn't. Ken SCAM tried to do it with his Ark-park and it just looks gay. Now, there's lots of interpretations a rainbow can have depending context, but when you do it as a reaction to gay-rainbow, you end up with a gay-rainbow.
>>723685395Does DayZ even have base building? Did you mean Rust or Conan or ARK the dinobitch game
The game is fucked, since Tarkov arrives on Steam two weeks later.
This is made by the same faggot swedecuck trannies who made battlefield v. No thanks.
>>723670373That's a fucking cool solution. Every 3rd person slopfest should have this. Not that I'd play 3rd person slop.
>>723650545thats not a rainbow flag, it's a 70s style logo
>>723685708Tarkov has performance issues but I do think after all the people grind 2 weeks on Arc, they will go back to Tarkov. Except Steam won't record all the people on BSG Launcher cause we don't get extra codes
>>723669891>yuropean try not to think about america or guns>challenge level impossibleCritical mission failure.
>>723685716BFV has annoying female characters but everything else about it is absolute perfection. Took me years on and off with V, and back and forth from 3 and 4, to realize just how exquisitely crafted V is. Not as many memorable maps as 3 but everything else in V is king
>>723673092Welp I was curious about it since visually and thematically it is EXTREMELY nice, even if the gunplay is the worst 3rd person shooter gunplay I've ever experienced. Thanks for saving me 40 bucks anon. I had been watching this since it was a PvE only game. They should have left it PvE only. Dropped.
It looks like Concord for the Atari 2600.
>>723685659>>Does DayZ even have base building?Yes. Since 2012. Those other games are nonsense fag games.
>>723649932Every other day the Concord cinematic universe gets expanded for some reason. Why?
CONCORD CONCORD CONCORDRAINBOW RAINBOW RAINBOWTPP TPP TPPmentally ill russians need to stop defending daddy tarkov so hard
>>723649932scumbags
>>723649932>Who is the target audience?When you combine people who want to PvP with people with no skill at PvP you get extraction shooters.Can they beat you 1v1 in a fair fight like in LoL/CoD/BF/CS/Ect? No. So they have to play a game where they can cheat.
>>723685997didnt those european cucks ruin the entire game with a ttk patch
>>723649932Slop eaters
>>723685853>ZX Spectrum>Apple>AtariPeople truly are retarded.>>723650545The LGBT rainbow flag has six colours.
I had a pretty good time over this playtest. Definitely not paying $40 though. $20 at most. I will wait for a sale.Should have been a PvE non extraction game because the most fun I had in the game was teaming up with randoms and taking down shit like bastions/leapers while swarms of small drones kept popping up
>>723649932i love retrofuturism, but post 2020 games styling themselves as such have been abysmal so far
>>723649932>character creator has browns of all types>no whites>both "body types" are female and the outfits all have skintight leggings that belong on a woman>third person abuse in a full loot shooterNobody will play this after the streamer sponsor money dries up.
>>723649932Techbros who think generative AI is the future.
>>723685540>What's with the forced hype for this game?This has to be the most overhyped and blatantly shilled game I've ever played.If you search youtube for ARC Raiders there are multiple videos calling it a masterpiece and how it's going to blow up and change gaming forever and in reality it's the most boring generic slop I've ever played, there is absolutely nothing special about this game.
>>723687803Arc Raiders especially is like some soulless automatoms idea of retrofuturism.
>>723649932Concordbros, we are so back.
>>723683000it's $40 though
I actually thought it was kinda fun.
>>723649932>5 second breach and search animation>common crafting components>5 second breach and search animation>common crafting components >5 second breach and search animation>common crafting components >mag dump an Arc bot>get ambushed by someone with real gear and not the free load out so they actually got to have fun
I really like all the fanservicey nods to The Finals. Not sure why Embark is so slept on. They're 2 for 2 on making good video games.
I've been enjoying Arena Breakout so I'm gonna probably just play that, being free helps.
>>723688572Free loadout should be it's own queue. I like the idea more of everyone having no control over what they're given, and making do with it.
>This world... full of these mechanical demons. To them I'm nothing but a shadow...https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iPWcMva_wME
>>723688572You're forgetting the "5 seconds of waiting for items to appear even though they're right in front of you". DMZ has nothing of the sort, you open something and instantaneously move on to the next if the item isn't there the second you open it up
What bugs me is the continuous raids, people just keep spawning, you're never safe. It's fight after fight after fight after fight and it's just too damn much. Idk how youre supposed to get ahead when I literally cant keep up with the healing requirements from fight so much.
>>723688920go free loadout, loot a couple things and leave immediately. then you'll have everything you need
I fucking love The Finals and I love ARC Raiders. But they really suck at doing anything about cheaters. I know it's an issue with every FPS right now but it doesn't feel like they're doing enough. Wish they punished repeat offending cheaters instead of rewarding them by letting them compete in their esports tournament.
>>723688920>it's fight after fightI have only experienced this during the special event deployments, manly electrical storm. That one is a pure cluster fuck
i boughted
>>723689219I was planning on buying until I played it
>>723689219I got the digital deluxe too but do we actually know what the 2400 credits are gonna be used for? Just cosmetics like The Finals? I could've sworn they said the first battlepass is gonna be free for everyone but I could be wrong about that.
>get a Torrente 2>it's got some great mods>have an anvil with a silencer 2>decide to go do one last round>friend crashes>waiting for him to reconnect>Snitch spots him>shoot it once>game crashes>friend loads in>he's downed by an ARC>I load in>I'm also downed by an ARCI love how on friday and yesterday I experienced zero crashes and our last 2 rounds we both get crashes and right when I get the Torrente when I wanted to hose someone down. Fuckin gay, dude
>>723667341Lemme tell you this, even without LGBBQ associated with the rainbow flag, rainbow always be gay no matter what. If i want red, i want red, if i want blue, I want it blue. I make up my mind. So rainbow = faggots. This is coming from a core gen-y, also fuck gen-x, literally fucking a gen-x married milf with two gen-z girls.
>>723688687I must be blind, because I haven't noticed any aside from the face templates.
>>723689708I just helped a naked zero shield rando get a torrente by showing him the control tower drop down
>>723690106I took it off some guy after killing him. My friend and I were going to do the control tower drop down but we killed a couple teams also coming in for it
>>723690152control tower really is pvp thunder dome huh
>kill a guy>go to loot him>get shot at while his shit is taking forever to load in the worst menu page ive ever seen>exit out and kill the other guy>loot original guy, i have to wait to re search his entire body again>get shot at again>die this time while im waiting for items to load in the menuWho actually plays this shit
>>723690182Oh yeah. We were pvping like crazy there
>>723649932literally just streamers
>>723676409just play one of the trillion other tarkov clones retard no one's stopping you
>>723690186>loot original guy, i have to wait to re search his entire body againanything you've uncovered in a container is always uncovered when you reopen itwhy did you lie
>>723690283Obviously nothing was uncovered cause it takes forever for items to load you idiot
>>723690182It won't be if they fix the drop down being too safe/easy but yeah no reason not to free kit and try it a bunch and hope you escape. Same with Harvester in the water, its free legendary weapon blueprints
>>723690348>Same with Harvester in the waterHow easy is Harvester?
>>723690326I think you're just retarded honestly
>Nexonnot me apparently
>crossing the open>leaper + 2 wasps/hornet whichever one has the machinegun>get shot by a random>throw a lure at the guy>the bots approach>they fucking attack me and ignore the lure
>>723689942It's mostly just little things like the Snitches(?) using the exact same sfx as the turrets in The Finals, same with the ziplines (and also being made out of yellow rope). I'm pretty sure I saw a screenshot of a helmet with the ALFA ACTA logo on the back of it, too. One of the trailers showed an advertisement for Jiangsu Romagna. They definitely seem to share a universe.
>>723650461It took me ages to recall where those colours came from, I knew it was some form of retro. But took me ages to place it. It has a kino colour scheme ngl. Same about the trash customization and faces.
No one cause the game feels like it has the budget of your mommas rate for one overnight
>watch for few minutes>its bland dogshitHow does anyone care about this
>>723690645>watching a free demo
>>723652284>20 minutesThere's your problem.
>>723689708Yeah I've crashed like times today after having no issues for the first two days.
>>723690401Solo, easy but time consuming. First attempt succeeded but took like 10m but no one even showed up. Trio? Very easy and won't take much time at all.https://youtu.be/ALxwi4eNL3IThe red tree for faster breaching would be really helpful
>Duos get shafted and have to play against triosWelp
>>723649932Concordian-esque
>>723690939I get both solos and trios when I que duo
>>723649932cock and ball torture enjoyers
>>723690939turn on squad fill pussy
>>723690473I swear some of the utility is buggedMe and my squad were fighting a leaper and I hit it with a showstopper (supposedly stuns for 10 seconds) and the leaper went into a stunned animation for barely .5s before immediately jumping again. Jump scared the shit out of me
>>723666928did you get your refund?
From the 40 or so matches I've done, it feels like people are less likely to shoot you if you queue'd solo and holstered your weapon.Rather than the times I went with a pre-made squad of 3 and anyone immediately opened on us.
>>723649932Cover art looks extremely gay so it has to be Americans.
>>723691194Solo play is way different than playing with groups, group feels way more sweaty and solo is more casual.
They really need to add some sort of light/sound thing on dead bodies, because finding them after downing someone at the start of a 3v3 fight in the woods with all the vegetation and rocks, while they can crawl like 50m is fucking impossible
>>723691271If the guy who you downed crawled away and hid in a bush so you can't loot him, you legit got out skilled.
Play DMZ if you want to play an actual good extraction shooter. Niggers that play games to tick off checklists don’t apply.
>>723691271Get fucked
>>723691250All I ask for is a standard emote which is just holding your arms up over your head.
>>723649932I had fun but I feel bad that these games are wasted on me as a solo gamer, my friends are cheap faggots who won't even drop $5 on a game, much less whatever this costs, and playing this sort of game solo is just an excercise in futility when you're not a god gamer
>>723691056No fuck you I hate randoms.
>>723691906It's actually much fairer than something like Tarkov because of the whole solo queue thing making you go with other solos, whereas there you can get 1v5d.You can also do quests in free loadouts and just scavenge in like five minutes and fuck off for lots of free money, honestly it's actually pretty casual.It only sucks if you want to play with 1 (one) friend.
>>723691906see >>723691194 >>723691250youre paired with other solos and solos are more likely to be friendly instead of just shooting you on sight
>>723649932meGreat sound designfun gunplayraping/getting raped all day of lootI love it. I think people complaing just hate video games. This is what gayming is meant to be like. High stakes high rewards.
>>723692085Groups stumble on each other in Tarkov though since it has full friendly-fire and you can't see allies through walls like here. 5 mans in Tarkov feel super rare and I have 2k hours, 2-3 feels very common though and is absolutely do-able as a solo if you get the jump since one of them tends to fold immediately.I think the shield system makes comebacks kinda hard if the enemy team jumps you and downs someone. You can full auto in the face with a 60rd in Tarkov if two people simultaneously try to double peek you, here there is no way you beat 2 people both with full blue shields rushing you unless they are running like Rattlers and you have the Torrente and you have the corner
>>723690186shroud uses smoke bombs to loot people
>>723692313That's very much true too, the high TTK means that even if you get the jump on someone in a squad, you probably need to reload after just one kill and then get merked.My biggest problem is how fucking garbage the free kit is in comparison to even remotely geared for the reason you just mentioned: you literally can not shoot enough bullets at even the right spots to get out of a situation like that if they just outshield and outgun you.You get a purple shield and you're practically a fucking god and you can't even get legshot or head-eyed like in Tarkov.Well, you shouldn't be getting squads in solo play, though.
>>723692471Free kit can have a Ferro atleast, the other guns don't even come with enough ammo to properly to PVE. Ferro is like 3 body shots on a blue shield which is pretty nice for a free kit.
>>723692558It's a single shot though, you need ideal conditions to really get any use out of it and pray to god they don't have any shield healing as they can heal a shield between shots if they feel like it because it takes so long to shoot+reload.I do like it the most out of free guns just for it being able to take down bots too, though.
>>723692558The problem is that statistically you're screwing a large portion of the player base because skill gaps are so big. If you're not that good you need good matchmaking to ensure you're with same level players otherwise it's just all punching down.The balance in the stress test was fucking awful to non existent. There was premades vs random trios, and sweaty solos cleaning up the whole map.It'll live or die on offering a balanced game for everyone, I hope launch manages to get the right otherwise the player base will tank in literally 2 weeks.
the robots look more fun to fight yet the PvP is the focus despite it not doing anything unique that other extraction PvP games do. retard priorities, how gay and lame
>>723649932Is this more live service slop?
>>723692471>My biggest problem is how fucking garbage the free kitScrappy gives you the parts every round to make the basic guns in the game and the ammo for them, bringing in something like the ferro and a kettle is pretty decent for basically zero investment.
>>723693316AI live service slop
>>723677138>boss baby vibes.jpg
>>723678532Starfield is hardly streamer slop as all the people streaming it just try to sell you crypto or NFT:s
>>723693356you can't even make a rattler with basic parts
>>723693310i think its way more pve focused, maybe its a lot more pvp focused if you play in groups but solo you mostly just deal with robots and like one guy every map or two but you can also just say "friendly" and theres a good chance you won't even fight each other.
>>723677106I really wish someone would do the visual aesthetic of either Starfield or ARC Raiders, and actually make a good game with it.
>>723693356Those basic guns are just so fucking shit, that's the gist of my issue. You're way better off selling that garbo and buying a green gun off the vendor.
It's hard to get an idea on how combat is actually supposed to flow because 95% of players are using poverty gear. I also hate how clunky the looting and inventory management is. The game desperately needs saved loadouts and other related qol, because I feel like I spend way too long moving shit around, either managing my loot if I extract or crafting/buying shit to make a new loadout if I don't. The skill tree also seems kinda gay.
>>723693481>i think its way more pve focusedI think the game is okay, but this is seriously disingenuous to say. The whole game is literally centered around fighting and outsmarting other players. The robots are just background filler, an excuse to either out your position or be cockblocks during PvP.People are allowed to not like this genre man. It's also Embark's fault for having the worst marketing on the planet. They shouldn't have revealed this as a PvE game, and the server slam shouldn't have gated more content than what the previous tests had.
>>723693746i think its way more pve focused because in the like 10 hours i've played i mostly ever fought robots and only a handful of actual players and when i ran into them they were mostly friendly which might be because i just played solo and i've seen other people say the same when they've played solo.i don't know what to tell you, but if you think i'm trying to trick people into liking this genre or whatever you're implying you need to relax.
highly intelligent redditors
>>723694420There is something wrong with this nasa punk style, i cant quite put my finger on it but its like its nasa-lite rip off rather than you know, doing the whole practical outfits and gear you would require in this situation that nasa actually does
>>723694546Because its the abstraction of the visuals by a faggot designer without understanding what could make it workIt's like trying to emulate the idea by just going to a fag store and picking the clothes there
>>723694546A lot of the outfits are gay, but a couple are alright. I expect everyone to just wear that red outfit with the rectangle goggles and finned helmet.
>>723694546
Sweet fucking lord is there a "recycle all the useless shit that has no purpose besides to be recycled" button?I have to read the descritpion of every single item because half of them say>can be used to craft thing OR can be recycled for partswhile others say>can be recycledSo why the fuck even have these shitty junk items that serve no purpose but to be recycled into parts? Just spawn the parts only. And seperate these items into their own category so when I am mass recycling shit they are not mixed in with regular crafting materials
>>723694876I expect they will have a lot of decks to sell kind of like helldivers2, each coming with both weapons/utilities and new clothing, the best will be reserved for a cash shop, which is super fucking gay considering it's pay2play.Fuck skins anyway, if it makes my game cheaper other people can buy that garbage.
>>723694876>all the cosmetics are loud proud gender queer clown attireThere's one (1) free starting cosmetic that you can equip and remove all the faggy shit and actually do camo colors, it has like a red stripe on the arm but otherwise it's the least bad of a bad bunch
>>723695056Yup I 100% wanted this, it helps to do the recycling as you loot so your looting backpack is more efficient, but that means being a bit more vulnerable later on in the rounds, its not too bad at the start.It does feel like busywork but I was already getting used to what you can and can't recycle safely, just depends how much more loot there is going to be.
>>723695056You can multi select items to sell or scrap them all at once and you will also need specific items to turn in for quests and projects and shit.
me bc its fun af
>>723680983>So is 4chaneww. something about this gives me a huge -ick
>>723695056This is a big problem and I complained about it in earlier betas but they didn't do fuck to it.Inventory management is the worst part of these games and they haven't done nearly enough to make it palatable.It gets even worse when you realize that later on those "only for recycling" items might actually be quest targets, so you'll be fucked if you don't play with a quest guide at all times.
>>723695082Getting skins from the store is always gay. Even if its the coolest looking design knowing someone payed actually money for it is insanely gay and ruins it for me, like faggots who still play wow and buy mounts off the store.We'll get cosmetics from wiping so hopefully those will be cool.
>>723681351BF6 had 6 million players in less than a week, if this game is 1/5th as popular then it should get 1 million easily.>only ~250K in their discord.wtf is this supposed to mean? 250k people in a discord server is small?
>>723695004looking fresh, Junior!
>>723695004This is hip with the kids, right?
>>723695004>outfit is literally called Junior >obviously meant to look doofy like someone in a little kid's outfit>BROS LOOK AT HOW DUMB AND CHILDISH THIS OUTFIT IS!!!Post it every thread, run that shit
>>723693713Sounds more like people who can't make it in time and come late to the game are eternally fucked. What's the point for newcomers to face a fully geared neet while you carry a wooden stick? Extraction shooters will be only populated by sweats, neets and alike, and they will cannibalise each other.
>>723695402My worry is it looks like if you dont have the blueprints for something, it probably doesn't list the components as needed for the recipes, it doesn't clarify this, can anyone confirm? It might be worth just keeping them, spend you cash on expanding your inventory and then use your seeds and rooster to get the basic components you need. That's what I did mostly during the server slam>>723695263yeah but you still need to read the descriptions if you've not memorized both their utility and what they scrap into, it's really pointless busywork.If they keep all this looting and rubbish it would be nice to have quick kit loadouts you make a-la Rust, just make a bunch, use them during a session and then end of the day break everything down.However they do it they need major QoL overhaul or it'll become giga-frustrating long term
>>723696021Pretty much, skilltrees and the asymmetry of loadouts means that not only will you be against people with vastly better guns and shields, they'll even have characters that are objectively just better than yours.
they always fuck over solo players in games like this. always.
>>723649932Will cheaters fuck this game over like they did Tarkov?
>>723696097I noticed they have a loadout value indicator in your inventory when creating your kit, I suspect that's used to try and balance similarly geared people together. Anytime I've done a high risk build with loads of insane gear I've met people who are similarAlso full game has 12 maps each with different difficulty settings and presumably better loot and harder quests and AI, so hopefully a lot of the sweats just go high difficulty zone for more reward.Once you realise things like guns are the most valuable part of the kit and making them require more unique loot, you care a lot less about metal and plastic and basic components. By the end of the server slam I was just selling mine and just keeping 2-3 stacks of each.
>>723696270That's a bit silly too: if your gear score or whatever is a matchmaking weight then it might also incentivize going naked for farming runs and the like. I suppose the ARCs kind of counter that a little bit, as you still need bigger guns to take down bigger ARCs, but it's a bit fucky wucky either way.
>>723696270I doubt it, at least it wasnt that way in the server slam or the beta.
Here's a post from leddittldr: yes.
>>723696503That's why pve modes should be added
>>723696503Paid for and written by microsoftRuskie niggers are literally never stopped by any anticheat ever, stop pretending otherwise.
>>723696367I suspect that's exactly what it's for, people with 0 kit left and shit free ones wont get too stomped. While the sweats who load up with everything possible will not want to risk that gear on run were they might not even loot anything worth their time.The best thing they could do atm is make the hatch keys part of the free kit, so you're more likely to escape through one rather than get camped at a lift.The game needs to have SOME way of stopping a negative spiral for below average players. I can't see what that is now. The gear from the rooster is definitely not enough, it might be better when trained up. Free kits are trash.
>>723696503Who else thinks every reddit poster and reddit reposter should be flayed alive?
>>723696503He's sadly right, I saw hacking in TT2 as well and it's only going to get way worse.
>>723696503Unfortunately hes correct. The game is literally already dead, there's no point in even launching it honestly. We should all install windows 11(paid full price) and then kill to save ourselves the pain of seeing Arc Raiders possibly succeed
>>723696503>They do not have any server-side security preventing people from doing truly inhuman stuff - like speed hacking/changing the values relating to the 'speed' of their gun and the number of rounds it has.LMAO. are these devs fucking retarded?
>>723696640>>723696654>>723696731None of these are actually refuting the statement. Linux was a mistake.
>>723696916Hello saar thank you for instally microsoft windows 11, today you will also be installing microsoft own epic battle game yes! Please do not be of installing competing games saar.
>>723667341this
>>723696503The game is cooked, and pvp FPS in general as well. They should have focused on a coop pve game instead. The times of only coming across one cheater every now and then are long over. And I bet they will wreck this title.
>>723696916This
>>723697049yeah i wish this was just a hero shooter like they originally planned
>>723696503>all those em dashsDid you know, there has been a drastic increase in the use of the em dash ever since wide spread use of generative text LLM's had begun? Isn't it kind of kooky and funny this massive post that anyone with a brain can tell reeks of faggotry happens to use em dash after em dash?
>>723697150That's actually mostly because a lot of the LLMs were trained with fucking Reddit and those fags love that dash.Kind of a chicken and egg situation now, though.
PLEASE DON'T LEAVE TARKOVI NEED TO KEEP CLUBBING SEALS
>>723696270>I noticed they have a loadout value indicator in your inventory when creating your kitI'm retarded, where is that shown exactly?
>le emdash!!!1This generation's 'minor spelling mistake means I win'
>>723697150oh so the game DOES have anticheat and we wont all be 1 shot by chinks with magic bullet+walls? Alright I'll preorder then thanks man!
>>723697318>>723697325I'm not playing whatever game your gay company is releasing that's competing with this lil bro
>>723697325Going by The Finals, and how I still see the odd cheater in ranked matches, their anti-cheat approach of just using basic-settings on UE5 supported middleware won't do fuck-all for ARC.
>>723697225I switched to pve and the enjoyment grew immensely for me. I love seeing youtubers seethingng because they have to now contend with other tryhards and hackers, instead of clubbing people who are trying to figure out the extracts and all.
>>723697225You'll get a fuckload of fresh seals in three weeks anon as streamers and their minions jump aboard the Steam release.
>>723697689>>723697225Tarkov became immensely more bearable for me when I started bushcamping and doing shit like hiding for the first 20 minutes of a raid with a carton of milk.
>camping in one spot for twenty minutes in hopes to one tap a random guy who didn't see you is now considered peak gameplay.Yeah, now imagine the person doing this for five hours every evening.
>>723697689Whats the pve of tarkov like? The enemies are just humans right? I feel like I'd rather just play modded stalker at that point.
>>723697883Second monitor content anon, ever heard of idle games?
>>723697891Play SPT instead; the AI mods there make the bots as good, if not better, than the human players you would meet, with proper logic and all.
>>723696503Link to this reddit post?I wanna see the responses
>>723697924Idle games are the most retarded thing, but a natural evolution from faggots watching others play a game, lol.
>>723698037https://www.reddit.com/r/ArcRaiders/comments/1oa68od/hackers_wiped_entire_squad/nk9h6we/not many people give a fuck because they don't understand just how bad this is
>>723696503yeah this is gonna be a massive problem when the game drops and is $40
>>723698089I'd call it a natural evolution to the sweat of the game.>Hmm do I rush the loot spawns/hotspots like a streamer and get fucked by sweats as a solo..>Or do I wait 'till the dumbos are done and gone and then actually play the game?Tarkov is pretty funny in that the actual goal of the game is to play the game as little as possible: you get in the map and instantly know where you should go and fuck off to based on your spawn and the spawns next to you. The more you play the worse it becomes, everything becomes a beeline and you know exactly where the enemy players will be/can be at at certain times as the round timer is a limiting factor.The more time you spend in a round, the more interesting it becomes and the fun level goes way higher.
>>723698123>account made 1 month ago>constant posting in the windows11 subreddit>gets mad at some guy for having a clippy profile picture because he hates louis rossman>I'm supposed to give a shit about this guys thoughts
>>723698135If they don't fix the roof jumping exploit for the best loot in the game by launch I don't expect them to be able to actually handle real cheaters.
>>723697296Top left when you're creating your loadout for the next round, its next to the weight. It's measured in the game currency. My guess is that can or will be used to bin players into respective skill buckets. I hope so because If I run free kits because I've used everything good, then I don't want to be fighting sweats with pink weapons.
>>723698548I wonder if it's going to be hard value brackets that people are going to make meta builds to min max for that bracket.
>>723698493they should make it so you just can't open a locked door from the insidethey should make the jump non grabbable but have a spot you can land thats far enough to damage+stun you within sight of the turretthey should have the camera's/turrets in locked rooms set off a building wide alarm, maybe have using a key turn off the turrets/cameras to further reward actually having and using a keyDumb parkouring and cheesing places is fun, but it shouldn't be stupid easy to full naked run and get easy loot on repeat
>>723698123>The Reddit answer to hacking problems:>Bro just turn off crossplay play on consolesJesus fucking christ the consoomer brain.
>>723698493that drop is an absolute non issue you shitlordoh no players got access to what? 1 weapon crate and 2 ammo crates? big fucking woooyou go to the other red marked area and you find 2 weapon crates and 4 ammo crates with 0 keys required
>>723698548Wonder if it takes player level into account.
Regardless of whether you think the game is good/fun or not can we all agree that the boxart/ cover art is absolute dogshit?
>>7236987811 weapon crate, a guaranteed weapon sitting in world, high tier components+grenadesfor free when its meant to be a key locked room in a red zoneThe drop should be harder/more punishing AND the loot should be better
>>723698851It is, alongside the artstyle with the player clothing.I just don't understand the appeal at all.
>>723698851No its pretty componently composed
>>723649932BlackRock social engineering giba
>>723683690this is missing darker and darker
>>723650881They never existed
>>723698490you care enough to snoop through the guys reddit post history instead of focusing on the content of his post about cheats and how this is going to affect the gamecan you refute anything he said? if its true that things like gun ammo size, player speed etc is client side and modifiable then this game is DOA.
>>723698851everything outside the gameplay is abysmalpeople will look at the cover art or the garbage trailers and write it off instantly for being wokeslop
>>723649932Thats a male robot in a female body, swedish woke tranny game.
>>723699021>erm refute my pointNo I'm attacking your character faggot.
>>723699021>can you refute anything he said?nta but has he posted any proof or are we just taking any ai slop posted on reddit as truth now
>>723698893>>723698878>>723699027Even without the rainbow the character design on the front combined with the name makes it look like a shitty shovelware game
>>723684376>Stoneshard>open world survival craftingwhat a faggot
We will be playing Witchfire, Dark and Darker, Hunt 1896, and Arc Raiders.
>>723699146>rainbowNot a fag rainbow, clearly meant to be one of those old color splashes back when video being in full color was amazing, or maybe an old nasa rainbow. >character designI like mannequin robots.
>>723670373This is cool but it should have a grey/desaturated area where you can't "see" in third person, or a slight blur effect so you know where your eyes are looking
>>723685056>>723679634Real /God's rainbow has 7 colours.Pride flag/fake rainbow has 6 colours.Hope this helps.
>>723683690>ctrl f>no sandhttps://store.steampowered.com/app/1431300/Sand/
Am I crazy for thinking they drew a lot of inspiration from starwars? One of the outfits reminds me a lot of the rebel pilot outfit, all the guns look like a gun with a bunch of random shit glued on like the old props
>>723699535Yeah, they just have inspiration from similar stuff.
>>723699087watch the video in the OP the guy is replying to, people running around with speedhacks meleeing othersfor speed hacks to work means those values are client side and the server doesn't give a fuck
>>723649932Streamers.>has solo/trio queue and matching>no duo queue and matches with solos and trios.>crossplay with PC and console on by default.>skill tree has no numerical values for skill efficiency increases.>TPP corner peek based gunplay.>menu based home hub.>dogshit outfits and customisation.>have to raid 4 times before shooting range becomes available.>premium currency.>Nexon.red flags aside, the atmosphere was kind of cool but I won't be purchasing after that server slam.thanks for bringing your gear to the elevators for me to extract with btw
>>723699834What gay faggot community does the acronym TPP come from? How can I go about killing all of them?
>>723699834>skill tree has no numerical values for skill efficiency increases.This is so fucking annoying and I know the only reason they do this is because they're fucking lazy.
>>723699087>>723699676Spoonfeeding, here you go:https://files.catbox.moe/e3yu1a.mp4
>>723697891I play pve with my mates, but I would recommend SPT over it, if for no other reason but the price. As for stalker, it's a completely different vibe, and I mainly play tarkov for the loot and gun autism.
>>723699996that jittery motion makes it look like they're not actually incrasing move speed but exploiting some fuzzyness in netcode that normally just makes your movement smooth even when lagging by trusting the client to say "actually I moved a few steps forward" but they're doing that repeatedly to rapidly teleport.If thats what it is then they'd just have to put tighten up that fuzzyness a little.
>>723700090Nah, that's because the animation is breaking due to the increased speed, very common in speedhacking.
>>723700162sorry but you'll have to empirically prove its not what I said.
>>723700201W-W-W-W-W_W-w_W-_WW_W-WAHOOOO
>>723649932streamers, I guess. I don't even know what the game is about though
>>723700241no mario
>>723697150whats em dash?
>>723700679
>>723698123https://www.reddit.com/r/ArcRaiders/comments/1o9c3hz/hvh_raiders_embarks_questionable_platform_support/another post from this guy showing working cheatsif anything he said is factual then this game is going to be one of the fastest games to die this year, i give it a month tops if it actually launches with this basically nonexistant anticheat
>>723700995>reddit spacinggo back to r/windows11 you pajeet faggot
>>723700995>battlefield 6 has hackers so i guess it'll be dead in a monthfucking retard
>>723650545It's meant to be the LJN kind of rainbow back when the vibrant (not pastel, that's gay shit) rainbow was used a lot in late 70s early 80s marketing.
>>723649932Marathon refugees.
I am buying the game because its an extraction shooter that works on linux. I don't care what this indian with chatgpt posts on reddit he can suck my balls. boomers cry about cheaters in modern games but the reality is they just suck and the $40 price tag will filter out brazilians anyway
>>723701023>>723701064retarded brown cunts don't understand what the words in the post meanenjoy your shitty game that's going to be overrun with cheating chinks on day 1
>>723649932It has style to it, but it's an extraction shlooter and I doubt it's not plagued by modern sensibilities. So definitely not me.
>>723701237>still reddit spacingYou will not anti-shill me you microsoft employee
When... When will it come out concord 2
>>723701651marathon got delayed
>>723699304It's a reference to one of those SMPTE color bars they use to test NSTC signals.
