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its been 20 years since I first became aware of Mass Effect
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>>723769741
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LGYKW_OBtlU
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>>723769741
In my cycle
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>>723769741

The new one is going to have more gays and trannies so it's over.
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>>723769741
>>723770843
This ad was better
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rY2Vpcm8CYM
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Ah, my sweet Green, Red, and Blue...
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>>723772284
I picked purple.
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>>723774741
Why did they give purple such wide hips?
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>>723776175
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PKzF173GqTU
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>>723774087
This proto-Ashley is HOT! Were there any helmet-less variants?
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It pains me that Mass Effect has a dedicated thread spammer on /v/.
It's the most forgettable and undeserving series, even Dragon Age had more soul.
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What exactly is the MASS EFFECT? Is it like warp drive?
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>>723774741
Why is she such a slut for human men?
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>>723781716
In what sense? Mechanically? Comparable to Star Trek drives, yes.
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>>723781716
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>>723781676
lmao
Or maybe it has actual fans, being a good game.
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>>723781792
>>723781816
I mean how does it work? Is it an artificial black hole?
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>>723782119
It increases or decreases mass.
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all of you niggas get in here >>723781274
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>>723769741
https://youtu.be/OLo4RTUwFMc?si=OeDiMHkjSHJzlJKt
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>>723781716
you take a magical new element, element zero, which is created by supernovae (like most other elements...).
then you apply an electrical current to it to manipulate the mass around it. positive current - more mass, negative current - less mass. they use that to justify FTL, energy shields, inexpensive railguns, space magic and most other technological staples of the setting.
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'ate Batarians
'ate Geth
'ate Reapers
'ate Quarians (not racis just don't loik 'em)

luv me council

simple as
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>>723769741
>knew absolutely nothing about Mass Effect
>only played the Mass Effect 3 demo because you could unlock this really cool looking armor in Kingdoms of Amalur if you did
>end up really liking Mass Effect 3, mostly for it's multiplayer
>decide to give this series a shot
>played the fuck out of the first two games
>completely forgot about that multiplayer aspect, just wanted to finish the story

And we all know how that ended, but man, that was one hell of a journey. I know a lot of people say skip the first one, but I'm glad I didn't. The world building and lore in the first game is something else. I wouldn't love this series as much without it.
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>>723782554
>luv me council
disgustin
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>>723782835
>I know a lot of people say skip the first one
No one says this unless you hang out with zoomers or something
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vidya's OPVS MAGNVM
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>>723772004
It's crazy how gay and woke ME3 was and it was made years BEFORE the woke era. Truly frightening how bad the new one will be.
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>>723782838
>Ah yes, "Reapers"

I sacrificed 8 cruisers and 2,400 Alliance crew members to save you
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>>723769741
remember to be excited for Exodus, the coming Mass Effect successor made by real former Mass Effect developers
its sure to be a blast!
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>>723783053
How anyone defends ME2 after the plot point of "everyone just pretends Sovereign wasn't a Reaper" was introduced is just beyond me.

Fuck ME2 seriously.
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>>723783179
It's gonna be such a return to form! It's gonna be dogshit.
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The newest Ass Effect being actually good and Exodus flopping miserably would be the funniest shit ever
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>>723769741
>I
>HAVE WONDERED ABOUT YOU
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZYnjoRbODfQ
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How is Sentinel in the legendary edition?
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>>723783298
>not applying imagination
>not discerning obvious deep state and Reaper psy-ops
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>>723769741
is it worth getting OG ME1 over legendary edition?
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>>723783491
Still neat.
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>>723783298
>Oh... it's you
>You're officially reinstated as a Spectre again
>Don't talk to us

Yeah okay thanks
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>>723783505
>deep state

The only Deep State you meet is Cerberus and they are the ones who actually believe Reapers are real.

Why didn't they pull any strings to at least make the Alliance believe in Reapers again? In ME1 they were all ready to believe in Reapers based on Shepard's bad dreams. But then in ME2 they stop believing (despite seeing a real Reaper that wipes out half the navy) because?????
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>>723783521
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>>723783298
No it makes perfect sense, the geth just had a very powerful ship.
>umm ackshually it's a millions years old AI which has wiped out all life in the universe countless times. I know this because I saw it in a dream
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>>723783659
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>>723783298
If you can accept shepard's resurrection than you can accept anything
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>>723783521
Yes but you should just pirate it. BW/EA don't deserve a single cent.
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>>723783735
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>>723783436
AND I NEED YOU TO RECOVER
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>>723783521
>>723783659
You can mod (MELLO) the lighting for LE
You can also restore Miranda's butt shots via mods
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>>723783735
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>>723783773

Butchered.
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>>723783808
Why would the sky be red THOUGH?
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>>723783812
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>>723769741
I vividly remember not thinking much of it when it was announced. I was a fan of KOTOR and I didn't like what Bioware was doing with this new fake Star Wars setting.

I went to a gaming expo a few months later and there I actually played the game for the first time and I remember doing a 180 and really liking it.

Wat a great ride it was.
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Hackett out
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>>723783808
>do we want the level where everyone gets massacred and you see an ungodly giant robot death machine to look demonic and hellish???
>No lets have it look like a happy summer morning!!!!

Modern game devs have negative talent
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>>723783739
yeah about that
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>>723783846
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>>723781716
The discovery of a magical element (element 0 or eezo) that gives you the force and lets you manipulate mass, fucking with E=mc2 to go faster than light
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>>723772136
that was boring
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>>723783894
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>>723783929
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>>723783812
The Kelly change is what really did it for me
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>>723783929
I'd considered getting the LE for the achievements when it was dirt cheap but I'm glad I didn't
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>>723783649
Every species bar Krogan (conventionally) has its version of deep state and spooks, you only know 11, Cerberus, known Salarian STG, implied competing Dalatrasses, implied Council personal forces (of which SPECTREs are a direct special arm), intuited Turian political circles, intuited economical Volus circles, implied religious Hanar that made people like Thane (IIRC), shown Asari Thessian conspirators, Reaper servants, Leviathan servants, and naturally Alliance personal supranational intelligence agencies.

Cerberus isn't actually a deep state, though it can be in an on and off way. They're at odds with Alliance.
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>>723783968
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>>723783839
because clouds reflect fire
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>>723784007
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>>723784007
Did they just delete the lighting in the LE or what
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>>723783805
i just checked ME LE mod section and its quite big and active with community patches, i guess i can just mod the fuckups
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>>723784035

>>723783808

bright and sunny day on Eden Prime really sets the mood for the intro mission
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>>723784054
pretty much
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>>723783889
>try to argue its realism
>portion of Eden Prime so huge it can be seen from space is red hot glass, ash and embers are raining from the sky, you literally stand next to the torched ruins of the city at the end of the mission
>>723784024
its sunlight reflecting through smoke in the air lol
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>>723784081
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>>723784054
you must understand that modern game developers don't know how to do lighting
they can paste lumen light sources around an environment and that's it
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>>723784116
we know that's not true because it happens at night
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>>723784138
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>>723783179
>>remember to be excited for Exodus,
yeah, right
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>>723784171
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>>723784003
>Cerberus isn't actually a deep state,

I say it is considering the fact they have secret sources of income from wealthy benefactors and have some kind of pull within the alliance.

Anyway why would *any* group want to deny the Reapers, who are an obvious existential threat? The only way they might have a motivation to do so is if they were indoctrinated, and there's simply not enough to go on to prove that.

The only excuse is indoctrination, and there's no proof of that, just speculation. From what the average player sees the only explanation is that the council is just retarded.
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>>723784152
this would be a wiki article if google wasn't on that AI faggotry and wikipedia wasn't on that faggotry faggotry
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>>723784035
>>723784081
>>723784138
The Unreal Engine and its effects have been a disaster for the video game race
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>>723784256
now ask your ai why it happens at night
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>>723769741
Mass Effect is 25 years old? Goddamn I feel too old
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>>723769741
It's time to let it go.
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>>723784306
wild

are you going to ask why the sky is blue next, in spite of this thing we know is not true (gas refracting light)
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>>723784382

I refuse

just finished replaying ME1 and im starting 2 now
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>>723769741
And to this day I still haven't played ME3
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>>723784225
>I say it is considering the fact they have secret sources of income from wealthy benefactors and have some kind of pull within the alliance.
But not a complete pull. Deep state must be in control to be a state, that is to say that the term refers to a hidden state within the state that is directly responsible for most things and is mostly uncontested.
Cerberus has only as much pull as much as they can get, or make it themselves being a separate proto-polity unto themselves. Unless the Alliance has a deep core that shares their values and Cerberus is an extension of them, they can't use Alliance as they please.
>Anyway why would *any* group want to deny the Reapers, who are an obvious existential threat?
Lack of intel, lack of reliable intel, lack of correct mentality, deep long term social sabotage by the 2 previous Shadow Brokers (before Liara) to obfuscate itself by using all species in the galaxy as a meat shield, and most obviously - they (that is to say every person in the galaxy that can be manipulated) were already manipulated preemptively (without Indoctrination tech) by unwitting agents of the Reapers.
The Reapers are not limited to indoctrination, they use anything that their plan permits, and what causality permits.
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>>723784517
no anon. ask it why the sky is red when there's a fire at night.
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>>723784664
>But not a complete pull.
I don't think that's required for a deep state, but whatever. The point is they're the only secret organization operating behind the scenes, and they actually seem to care about stopping the Reapers, even if they turn out to be retards that get indoctrinated.

>, deep long term social sabotage by the 2 previous Shadow Brokers (before Liara) to obfuscate itself by using all species in the galaxy

Nothing even changes if you install Liara as shadow broker, so as it stands the only logical conclusion is that the species of the council are just retarded and refuse to respond to existential threats like the Reapers.
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>>723784664
>by the 2 previous Shadow Brokers
Assuming, of-course that the Broker itself isn't a socio-political system made by Reapers, or made by somebody fighting the Reapers.
There's no way Reapers would look over an entity that affects the whole galaxy.
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>>723769741
dude's already living in 2027
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>>723784223
this one im ok with. never liked the lighting in this level.
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If all goes as planned, will you redeem my life again?
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>>723784874
>the only
One of the few only known, you should've said.
>>723784874
>Nothing even changes if you install Liara as shadow broker, so as it stands the only logical conclusion is that the species of the council are just retarded and refuse to respond to existential threats like the Reapers.
And nothing would change, because Liara is the 3rd Broker.
She's completely new and presumably shares no morals with previous one or the one Yahg killed.
The Yahg was likely planned for his own death, being obviously smart, so if there were any transmigrating pursuits by the Brokers, all the standing orders that Broker's made before Liara becomes current Broker can be assumed to be optimized to be even more deceptive.
Broker network is too sophisticated an endeavour to assume that it will collapse with the loss of its head, regardless whether or not any Broker expects their own death. The Yahg, taking the role by hand, likelly knew that.


Worse still, the sheer fact that a member of an extremely capable indigenous pre-spaceflight species has managed to pull such a legendary feat implicates long-term betrayal of the Broker by someone smarter than both the Yahg and the Broker.
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>>723784223
most of that looks better aside from them fucking up samaras eyes
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>>723785150
>One of the few only known

Yes the only one the authors bother to inform you about to any significant degree.

>She's completely new

No one else but you knows she's new, she could alter information throughout the galaxy at will, yet at the beginning of 3 everyone at the top of the human government is still acting as if the Reapers are a myth right up until they arrive.
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>>723784774
you're not going to stop being retarded are you, this is bait
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>>723784223
bodied that freak
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>>723783298
Yeah sorry fag you got killed in the intro by an alien race that didnt exist last game gg. No we arent going anywhere with your ability to understand prothean, no we're not exploring ruins looking for weapons and fighting off others doing the same. Nope, no activating relays in a desperate search for a silver bullet.
Time to work for a humans-first org that spends its time torturing humans. The only Cerberus feeling mission in that was the Arrival dlc where you wipe out batarian filth. There should have been paragon missions dedicated to attacking alien infrastructure and false-flags on shipping or something. I dunno. I hate the aliens in mass effect having a competent glowies but all humans have are retards and we dont get to kill enough.
Did you know they claim First Contact War only had 620 human casualties? The turians and Systems Allians are rewriting history to pretend nobody died there. We know better. Don't trust any of these aliens.
talizora nude mods lore friendly? how install
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>>723785385
thank you for proving my point.
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>>723769741
>4 years ago
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Lg-Ctg6k_Ao
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>>723786392

guess its stuck in dev hell because this is the first time ive seen this trailer
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Nov 7 is gonna suck lmao
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We'll never get kino like this again
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>>723783179
I can't, I have anhedonia
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>>723785321
1/2

Technically you have an "ex"-STG buddy on board, but as you've said, significant degree.
There are comics and books, of-course, but I've read only a few long ago, so I'm unsure if any showed anything.
How much extra content is there anyway?
>No one else but you knows she's new, she could alter information throughout the galaxy at will, yet at the beginning of 3 everyone at the top of the human government is still acting as if the Reapers are a myth right up until they arrive.
Ah, but she can't. It'd be logistically meaningless, would compromise the network, would threaten her, would make status quo unpredictable and may make Reapers do something funny.
Concurrently this is probably how the Crucible was found, through Broker archives and access on Protheans. Liara calls the Alliance, shares intel, gets there and the Reapers consequently get even more reasons to attack humans and Sol first.

To put into perspective the predicament Liara is in:
She assumes the mantle of a full galaxy size personal intel network with aims of and operational scope of manipulating billions to trillions of sapients.
At the same time it must stay ahead of everyone.
As it is an all time direct threat to every sovereignty and interest in the galaxy, the officially stated public opinion on the Broker's MO as using profit for competitive entanglement cannot work because the price of Broker existing vastly outweighs every opposite rationale no matter how much power Broker has.
Therefore Broker must have unknown unknowns, actual power and personal resources.
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>>723787038
Funny how all the marketing was just bullshit as this just isn't a thing in the game. Although ME1 was very rushed and unfinished in hindsight. The main story is actually very short and all the side content is fucking terrible minimal effort shit.
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>>723769741
Yeah, it sucks how bad things stick in your memory so much more than good tings. Don't worry, in another 20 years you should start to forget about Mass Effect, just try not to remind yourself.
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>>723787210
True but still better than the slop that comes out today or anything bioware has released since 2010
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>>723786392
I don't want more Liara. If there's more Liara then I want all fucking characters to return
>>723786525
If anything, they'll double down on it since they pretty much killed Dragon Age and have been shitting the bed for too long
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>>723787125

Because of that, Broker cannot act irrationally without losing control, as not all people know that they work for Broker, not all people that work for Broker "personally" know that the Broker has "changed", some agents may be lost, and the system cannot be fully mobilized without rising alarms of any sort.

Concurrently, issuing an order requires intelligence and will carry prices, and Liara, though highly capable, cannot afford miscalculations that may backfire within the scope of Reaper War, because though she has control of some systems, she has no equivalent personal forces to maintain guaranteed control and predictability of all systems.
She has to pretend to be the Broker at all times and act like he did, even in the galaxy at war, otherwise the system will be compromised.
As war progresses, she mobilizes more of what she can, behind the scenes (such as setting up at least some Mass Effect multiplayer missions), but she is limited even with existential threads.
Some agents will be outright gone as they are counter-attacked or hunted by Cerberus, by any opportunistic, by friendly-fire, and by Reapers themselves.
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still cry whenever i replay the games
still fall in love with all the unique crew dialogue in 3
still fall in love with citadel dlc and think it is genuinely one of the greatest love letters in gaming history
still finding new things to love about all 3 games each replay i do

LE + mods has been super gnarly, highly rec to anyone out there. a lot of fun mods for both QoL as well as just adding fun new shit.
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>>723787038
I love how these old ads were aimed at an audience with at least 110 IQ. You can feel the agitation and thought process of Shepard, as he begins to come up with some semblance of a plan here.

An ad like this would be lost on most 'gamers' today.
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>>723789509
based video game enjoyer
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>>723789509
I want to LAN 3 on a pirated copy, is that feasible?
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>>723789676
Strictly going off of a google search, but you should be able to. ME3 Private Server Emulator (https://github.com/PrivateServerEmulator/ME3PSE) seems to be what people online are suggesting. Assuming it's still running/working normally, I don't see why you'd have any issues connecting to the LAN network on a pirated game.
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I always get bored at ME2. I need to push through it to experience 3 + citadel.

2 feels a bit soulless compared to 1. has worse combat and the story goes nowhere- its just a series of side-quests
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>>723790009
2 is capeshit filler
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>>723790009
2 was an attempt to make ME a normie-centric franchise. Hence why it's the weak point.
See>>723790098
accuratley sums it up.
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>>723790009
2 has the best companions and yeah i agree the story is a bit weak prior to collecting everyone, but after that it realllly picks up.

i guess just treat it as half learning about all these new crewmates, becoming close to them, etc. then the last chunk of game setting the precursor for the big finale that is 3. doing the final suicide mission correctly and not killing anyone is worth reloading for, if its your first time playing. will make 3 a lot more enjoyable imo
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>>723790098
>>723790165
pretty crazy. I remember people used to claim ME2 was the strongest. I never understood it even at the time

Also the combat is very of its time. a simple algorithm where you're punished if you're not in sticky cover for x seconds. really trash.
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>>723790276
even if i dont like jack as a character and sacrificing her was the best thing i remember from me2 even after all these years?
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>>723790383
i am heavily, heavily biased as jack/liara are always my romance options lel but i think jack blossoms into a really nice character.

her connection/talks with shep makes her become an instructor for biotics at an academy. basically making sure that no one goes through what she had to go through. she's much more reserved and cares deeply about the kids she has under her wing, a big change from the state you find her in 2. her character development is really strong, probably one of the biggest changes across any of the crewmembers.
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>>723790693
Way better in every single way
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>>723783726
The Council already was too trustful of a Spectre once, why would they do it again?
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>>723790839
Every single way except you can't be Sith
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>>723790839
This.
Star Wars isn't actually a good setting and Bioware made up all the good bits. With ME they're free to build a world from scratch, so it's naturally better.

Being a newer game, ME just mogs KOTOR in visuals and fluidity of gameplay.
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>>723790693
>better companions
>better story
>better music (maybe debatable, i can't remember much)
>better combat
>also debatable worlds/levels, i prefer ME though
yeah
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>>723790991
sure you can
there's a red button you push to say mean stuff and your face gets all evil and scary
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>>723790693
KoTOR will always have the greater legacy.
There are many reasons why, but the main one is that it told a complete story in one game instead of dragging it over a trilogy with the meme that is "save importing".
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>>723791171
>kotor will always have the greater legacy
what? on what earth? the 2nd game is clearly unfinished. at best you have one and a half games.
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>>723787210
>The main story is actually very short and all the side content is fucking terrible minimal effort shit.
Surprised you didn't get 10 (You)s calling that side content great and you a retarded zoomie yet. There was ONE interesting side mission involving the funky prothean orb, that's it.
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>>723769741
and you haven't had sex once in that time...

sad!
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about save importing... am I able to change my class from 1 to 2 and keep my choices? the classes change drastically right?
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It's wild that Mass effect 1, 2 and 3 fit into one console generation. Three great games in 5 years
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>>723785780
You know, Prothean knowledge is meaningless.
It is so because the Protheans have lost, and because all relics are gone or destroyed, and those that remain, that weren't found by the Reapers or left by them deliberately as their tactic dictates (people forget this part), were excavated or ransacked.

The joke on Protheans is explicit, the Protheans have made only a few ventures against the Reapers, - The Conduit, a far more complex thing than a mere mass relay and Citadel relay lock, and the Crucible, which is of dubious origin, Javik making it there, and the Eden Prime Beacon, lucking out with its condition, correctly activated by Saren, and Shepard being a tough nut to survive it.
That's it. There is nothing else left. The Reapers have destroyed much, the Collectors finished it. Galactic forensics.
>I hate the aliens in mass effect having a competent glowies but all humans have are retards and we dont get to kill enough.
That's the joke, pal. Sci-fi readers apply incorrect expectations. They do not grasp that the Mass Effect isn't a drama or theatrical play, it's an IRL realism story about glowies. They think they are smart for calling obvious foolishness but don't grasp its purpose, because they aren't as smart as they think at all.

1/?
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>>723791282
of course, that was the main selling point of the series pretty much.

the classes change a bit yeah, me1 was a bit simplistic in some regards.
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>>723782984
At the time I welcomed having a gay and a lesbian character in a video game. It was fine! But in hindsight, I almost can't stand it, because it's where they opened the floodgates.
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>>723791282
Yes, you keep everything choice-wise and get an option to change class.

There is even lore explaniations of why your class-changed, so you don't even fuck it up from a role-playing perspective.
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>>723791369
Humans and aliens are in a precarious situation, - they are spacefaring civilizations with FTL technology.
The sheer complexity cannot be understated. Massive populations are hard to manage. Chaos only increases, as does complexity. The sheer ubiquitous power Element Zero allows is inhuman.
From kinetics that can easily blow up worlds, to paradigm altering technology that can destroy the galaxy , - least dangerous uses, by the way, eezo makes long-term control exceptionally hard, sometimes impossible.
A kilogram of antimatter is a BIG problem. A microgram of Eezo by its actual implications is an immediatelly ASTRONOMIC problem. Especially since smaller eezo amounts are used for most menial tasks and items.
Rogues cannot be afforded.

There is one solution. Assuming Direct Control.


Have you ever looked at modern politics? Europe, USA Senate, etc? Ever wondered why public politicians are seemingly incompetent? It is because they are optimized by their financial elites to be pliable.
But the consequence of putting in your own pawns, less competent but controllable, everywhere, is that the total competence plummets.
Wilful agents will rebel. Incompetent ones won't. As the institutions become substandard, so do their politicians.
The "retards" you see are only occasional. The Alliance local tribunal meet-up in he beginning of 3 is one such thing, but also not, - they were mostly panicking.

But what you do not see is the ostensible "fact" of Mass Effect, intelligence runs the show. Humans and aliens are compent, hypercompetent and incompetent, and tthis varies from individuals to individuals.
Everything has surveillance, everything is at war all the time.

2/?
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>>723791417
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Have you ever looked at modern politics? Europe, USA Senate, etc? Ever wondered why public politicians are seemingly incompetent? It is because they are optimized by their financial elites to be pliable.
Nta

No, it's the boomers
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>>723791417
Let us examine an IRL item: firearm forensics.
IRL gun use can be identified by various technological construction quirks, by registers, logistical reports and so on.
And naturally, by ballistics.
Mass Effect weapons fire computer variated size pellets. There are no means to identify them by ballistic forensic analysis tied to a gun or a batch of guns because the pellets disintigrate too much.
And every gun has eezo in it. Take a batch, extract it and suddenly one can have an extremely dangerous piece of matter that can be applied for anything, say, while using one of those omnitools.


That's a security risk. You can say it's a heavy risk...
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>>723791484
To counter-act that, one needs ubiquitous control, that is natural, unobtrusive, and normalized, and unsuspected. It's not even perceived.
Just like there is the Shadow Broker, a massive system, there is the pan-galactic eezo civilizational social control system that controls everything. It's not necessarily centralized, but nevertheless it is there as an "agreement".
Military runs the show. High tier, high skill runs the show. High money, new, old, certain politicians and free and rogue agents that pass the filter make it.
Everyone else is normal or "normal".


Shepard is the elite human glowie. This is why s/he has N7 code, and why N7 is a publicly known item, in spite of obvious operational risks of wearing VIP ranks. Spooks are never known, so why is N7 public?
It is precisely because of what the rank of N7, of Asari Commando, of STG et al represent.
N7 is the rank of a field active military official answering to and carrying the intentions of highest government authority comparable to the SPECTRE title, which may or may not be known or unknown to the agent.
If an N7 is on the block, should they die or be blemished - and die they may, if you are really THAT good, - you and everyone will be in a shitshow at an undetermined place and time.
At once disposable and not, a single spook of this stature controls much simply by being there, and where an N7 or STG is, there are sand lines that can only be resolved by more spookery, by "gentleman's rules" ala IRL "avoid torture and try to convert" spywork tradition.


This is why Shepard can pass so assuredly through any situation. He is close to the top where things are done.
This is why other normal people look so incompetent, - they live their lives, optimized by others.
And this is why Shepard's peers and the Council are so antagonistic yet "chummy", - they are on the same wavelength.
They do a lot of things unsaid because they live in their own elite sphere.
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>>723791459
Boomers are also optimized, thoroughly so, so much so they make problems.
Boomers are nothing if not predictable.
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>>723783773
The eyes in particular just look ME3-ified in ME1 and ME2 now. They used to look soulful in the OT, but when you get to 3 some intern did a hack job and made everyone have dead eyes.

There's an interesting (and probably deleted now) Tweet series from an animator by the name Jonathan Cooper, who worked on ME1/2, who said he won an argument in the animations dept. during ME1 to face eyes forward by default on character models. Some will argue it's bad animation practice because it means when you're animating, the resting position of eyes is slightly upward and having to deal with an offset. But he knew it would make characters look alive during gameplay and automated sequences. I'm pretty sure they fucked this up when they decided to overhaul the character engine during ME3. 70% of the workforce on ME3 was contractors and outsourcing, and people who didn't stay on the project for its whole duration, so someone who got power fucked up the face engine, trying to optimize its poly count, and it ruined the whole character creator system. This is why FemSheps import so poorly into ME3. Originally, the game shipped without being able to even import faces from an ME1 save. They had to hack together a patch to make it possible a month after launch, and Legendary Edition only "fixed" the problem by backporting the character proportions into the first 2 games. Even so, FemSheps look awkward as hell, and now there's even more inconsistency between ME1 and ME2.
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is this ai posting or something whats going on

can we just get back to talking about mako and doing sweet flips on it
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>it's 2011-2012
>visit the Cerberus/TIM thread on the BSN
>they're literally all nazis
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>>723791654
No, I was just pointing out a quirk of the setting to an Anon. Most Mass Effect players thorougly fail to grasp certain things about it.
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>>723784138
>Left: Boomer entertainment industry
>Right: Zillenial entertainment industry
The talent drain is real. We're just not the same anymore.
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>>723791761
I swear Fortnite has fucked the younger gens perception of lighting. Like everything has this cartoon monolight glow where illumination is a binary thing, ie; fully lit or no light.
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>>723784225
Cerberus's archetype is certainly not "deep state". If anything in the setting is the Deep State, it's the Council, with sometimes untrustworthy back-room politics and treason while pretending they're working together.

Cerberus is more like Elon Musk or BlackRock something like that. They're a privatized version of a government apparatus that's gone rogue (not convinced BlackRock isn't simply working on behalf of governments though) and using crazy ponzi schemes to work completely unregulated, with zero ethics, going as far as terrorism or unethical science experiments that use involuntary victims. It's very reminiscent of things Elon has been doing, whether he's cutting into the government or hushing cases of test-cases with the Brain Chip that gave someone brain damage.
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>>723791647
Can one mod this out in 3?
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>>723791713
The users?
Is that a bad thing? Am I supposed to feel something about it?
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>>723791713
we had a great time trolling that place
I made that image with all the cringe signature banners
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>>723791887
Well, yeah. It's no different than people that grew up in the star years of Metallica who had to wrestle with the rise of hip-hop, emo metal and "my ex-boyfriend is mean" pop-music just 10-20 years later. That's where video games are now, and there's zero coming back, now that it's reached that level. The next "scene" won't be video games.

I personally believe that culture and experimentation always forms around a previously unseen avenue. Not saying there couldn't be something after the beatles for video games, but basically, once the stake has been claimed, it invites the true masses, and they enshittify everything just by becoming part of it, and not understanding why it wasn't largely for them. They begin to criticize things that were part of the industry's DNA, and it discards its own foundation to become something more boring and safe, with increased governmental oversight, which is also exactly how Disney went from being The Company That Made Those Emotionally Solid Cartoons, to becoming The Company That Makes Sanitized Family Sit Coms on Disney Channel... And Bad Star Wars Movies.

The next scene won't be gaming. I'm sure one day there'll be something obvious, that's as new and exciting as gaming once was, but it's just not something we can imagine right now.
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>>723791957
Nah, the Council is only partially that, as they have an official supra-polity mandate.
Even with their own personal resources, the Council cannot act out its purpose without homeworld authority from each faction member, and each councilor pursues their personal and species-wide interests at the same time as the Council interests.
It is probably skewed in some areas, but a, say, Salarian councilor has no official presense in, say, Turian closed-doors military hierarchy.
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>>723791975
Not really. Like, there's 2 possibilities and I've meddled.
>1: Offset the eye rotation on everything
Nice....... now you have to edit all the official animation so the characters don't look into their skulls.
>2: Fix the eye texture
It looks better, using the ME2 eye texture, and an attempt to reuse the material, but the truth is that the shader artist who worked on 1/2 knew what they were doing with the softness and texture of the eyes, so they're shaded similarly to real human eyeballs. In 3 someone took a round object and slapped a shiny cubemap texture over it, so it has this glassy look. They fixed it by making the eyes extra glassy in all 3 games in the remaster.

The closest fix is the mod by Catachrism, which also overhauls the lighting in LE1 so it looks more like the original.
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>>723782294
Since this thread died I'll ask here, what are some other sci-fi stories about apocalypses?
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>>723792501
Can't beat the originals, huh?
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>>723792348
True enough, but one of the writers that quit during 2 said that they frequently had story meetings discussing that "what if the Council is indoctrinated the whole time." The Council Chamber has a Reaper shape which I always took to be symbolic. Obviously, the Citadel is a Reaper construct, but the fact that the room that has the heads of galactic politics is a Reaper shaped room, I felt could've been a hint that even the most influential people to combat the Reapers were always under influence instead.
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>>723792089
kek I miss the endless debate threads so much
Everyone was so passionate back then
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>>723792587
There are a lot of things I think looks more delicious about LE1, but the part that bothers me is the flat lighting of most places later in the game, and also the way they took assets directly from ME3 and ported into ME1, like the big-chested scientist uniforms. I don't mind some nice boobs, but I liked the original look of uniforms and everything in ME1. Unfortunately the modding community is largely zoomers who were kids playing ME3, so they have this childlike vision that the series should all look like that game. So everything is being Star Wars "prequelized" by the modding scene most of the time.
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>>723792656
2010 was the fucking zeitgeist. People who missed it haven't had the true Mass Effect experience.
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>>723792656
I remember quarian sweat
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Do you miss old BSN? It had a comfy design.
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>>723792828
There's a new BSN? Just when I thought that place couldn't be any more cancerous
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>>723792820
lol
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>>723792089
do you still have it? i think i know what you're talking about as i saw something posted here a lot back in ~2011 or so, but it's been so long.
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>>723792903
Let me grab my external HDD, I'll post all the nostalgia
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>>723792969
cheers anon, i always get a kick at seeing all the old stuff and get reminded of all the laughs i used to have on /v/ and 4chan back then. like i said, never posted on the bioware forums but i'd always see screenshots and i'd be dying laughing at how insane some people were.
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>>723792730
does this mod not fix it?
https://www.nexusmods.com/masseffectlegendaryedition/mods/1500
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>>723783298
I just hated the cookie cutter companions and side quests. Real lack of soul compared to the first.
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>>723792875
Old as in ye olde, nicer times, haha. I actually haven't visited since 2011.
There's a BSN archive, I think, different layout, and some links are gone, like that one ME3 fan game.
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>>723792903
Here it is
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>>723782835
>they never bothered to add in MP to LE despite it surpassing expectations and them teasing about it after release
still mad
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This one was good fun to make
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>>723793048
Mostly. But honestly I still prefer just downloading the original ME1 on InternetArchive, and installing MEUITM. It still looks kino as fuck. ME2 is also on that site, and there's a NoDVD crack for 3 once you've boughted it, and you can actually load up saves from OT3 into Legendary Edition, so if you're okay with the broken particle effects, you can just play OT1/2 and then LE3.
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>>723793165
>I SUPPORT MIRANDA'S ASS
>MORRIGAN FOREVER
Giga Based.
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>>723781816
First game was such a great setup. Too bad the sequels shit all over it.
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Will be posting random shit I made but if you ask anything I may have it in the same folder
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>>723782984
I still remember in ME3 getting meany bad guy points for turning down the faggot pilot. You should get good guy points for not wanting to ruin another man's asshole. That pissed me off, but not as much as the ending. Fuck ME3.
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>>723792565
you mean games about actively trying to prevent galactic extinction or games set in an apocalyptic/post-apocalyptic setting?
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>>723793048
i think when i played i did ALOT (texture pack) + its Improved Static Lighting. not sure how it relates to the one you linked since i never tried it, but i had a blast.
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>>723769741
A shame they never made any sequels
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>>723793345
Any meme pics from 2010? Or TIM memes?
Moddb fan group used to have a lot, but all the pictures before late 2011-early 2012 are just gone, modern Deviantart is unwieldy, eh.
Thanks in advance anyway.
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>tfw the Therum disco krogan walk loop youtube video is gone
dang it
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>>723793483
Posting oldest stuff
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>>723785780
>I hate the aliens in mass effect having a competent glowies but all humans have are retards and we dont get to kill enough.
Then you should love ME2 because you fight WAAYYYY more humans in ME2 than any of the other games.
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>>723793165
was there a thane cult on there or somethign what the hell is happening
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>>723793559
Haha!
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>>723792828
Yes. I'm not ashamed to say it was my favorite site back then, along with other game forums
There was no better feeling than coming home and seeing what schizo nonsense was happening now like >>723792891 or that time the cullen romance thread suddenly starting calling him a rapist and begging visitors not to romance him
>>723792875
They changed the format for the official bsn to pic related, then it shut down, now there's an unofficial bsn that never really took off and is pretty much dead now
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>you now remember buying Borker with bioware points or whatever the fuck they were called
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Remember when Protheans were a race of Space Jockeys?
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>>723793730
I remember clicking giveme2entitlements.exe
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>>723793730
lol I also remember that stupid page on the bsn where it showed all your dlc
and that time the community manager got reprimanded for being a fucking sexist incel pig to felicia day
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>>723783179
it's owned by WotC, it's gonna be dogshit
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>>723792828
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>>723781676
1. N7 Day is right around the corner
2. ME threads begets ME threads as people are drawn to replaying the games and wanting to talk about 'em
3. ME was always more popular than DA, even back in the day, to such a degree the DA team at BioWare was even jelly of the attention the ME team received
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>>723793837
This absolute unit
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my magnum opus
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>>723793407
>I still remember in ME3 getting meany bad guy points for turning down the faggot pilot
Never happened
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>>723793952
>someone else has random pictures of chris priestly at his desk saved on their computer
That's a relief
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>>723793904
end of rine has to be top 5 /v/ memes of all time, right? maybe top 10, but still.
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This shit was a gateway drug to Star Trek
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>>723794085
and just the desk but I can't find that one
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ME 2 is the best by far. The reaper plotline is overall pretty trash in the first place so dealing with a whole different sub enemy species was actually welcome. It's like the only game ever where your people are being invaded by aliens, so you gather a crew and say fuck it and go to their home planet and blow it up. It literally doesn't get more badass then that.

ME 1 does have those great moments like talking with Sovereign or Vigil, but I feel like some people forget how FUCKING BORING most of the game is overall, not the combat though I actually think the combat is underrated and damage scales harder in ME 1 than any of the other games.

ME 3 was just fucking rushed to no end. It's crazy like it seemed like such a long time before ME 2 and ME 3, but then you look back and Mass Effect 3 was made in TWO YEARS!! Like am I crazy or is this possibly the biggest undertaking for production on a video game ever? But yeah there was so much wrong with ME 3.
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>>723794176
Mass Effect is actually Babylon 5 tho. Like the entire plot of all three games is airlifted straight from B5.
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>>723783298
Especially when the Council OUTRIGHT AGREES THE REAPERS EXIST IN 1'S EPILOGUE

FUCK what a retarded way to derail the entire trilogy and never recover
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>>723793432
Both, it can be a game or some other medium.
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>>723794035
And the follow up thread that got Stanley Woo'd set off a chain reaction that had Hamburger Helper leave Bioware
My life's work
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>>723794312
I don't think I can accurately judge whether ME1's story is boring anymore, played it too many times. Very based that you pointed out the combat is actually great though
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>>723793315
It irks me when people say "Mass Effect peaked with ME2!". Because sure the gameplay was.... smoother. I will give it that (never liked how they added generic laser 'clips' to everything though). But the story didn't go ANYWHERE, they just added some dumb space roaches that you spend the whole game dealing with and pretty much nothing worthwhile happened. Some of the characters were pretty poorly written as well, for example how they turned Tali into a generic blushing anime waifu.
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>>723793886
Ashley is just the mystery meat of the future, the writers had a huge race mixing fetish.
Kaidan is equally mutted and you can save him from becoming gay by killing him so Ashley is the lesser evil.
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I miss ME3 multiplayer
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Just a little reminder that everyone should play Advent Rising at least once. It's crazy how similar the gameplay is to ME1
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I just want to replay the first one. Is the Legendary Edition good enough (and moddable enough)?
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>>723794458
>Citadel Sidequests
>Finding Liara
>Feros
>Noveria (outside of the hot labs)
and honestly...
>Eden Prime

That doesn't leave much game left, but what is left is REALLY REALLY freaking good.
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>>723794312
>ME 2 is the best by far
lol
lmao even
>The reaper plotline is overall pretty trash in the first place
Yeah that's why people back in the day adored Sovereign, the Virmire reveal, Ilos and the entirety of the endgame? Go back to 2007/8/9 and see if there's anyone *not* hyped for the future of the Reaper plot before 2 threw it out the fucking window
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>>723789597
I think you wrote it too pretentiously but I get what you meant. The ads of old where you had to use your imagination do feel superior. But that's true for the games that require you fill in the blanks yourself as well.
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>>723789597
>i'm so high IQ that children's video games were targeted at me specifically
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>>723794337
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>>723794698
These kinds of memes are always funny because it exposes someone getting utterly filtered in a game you're meant to replay and shifting the blame.
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>>723794759
I just don't understand how someone who's played ME1 back then would think the Reapers would be back so soon for the second game when you've destroyed (mostly) their only means of fast traveling into The Milky Way
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>>723793748
Just reading this is enough to feel pain. Such innocent humour. Maaan
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>>723794781
>Harbringer likes ASSUMING DIRECT CONTROL
lel
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>>723783739
That's the thing, Shepard's resurrection was as unbelievably fucking awful.
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Any KINO historian fans here?
https://youtu.be/nnra514dXWA?si=_l3MAI9BM1w8XLOf
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>>723794885
I miss mspaint high effort memes so much
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>>723787210
The side content great and you a retarded zoomie but unironically
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>>723795062
Replaying right now and it's amusing realizing that half of those lines are just Mark Meer as well
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>>723795082
I forgot how hard to read these are. Gotta zoom in a bit
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>>723795143
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ALL CLASSES RANKED

ME 1:
>Adept
>Sentinel
>Infiltrator
>Vanguard
>Soldier
>Engineer

ME 2:
>Soldier
>Sentinel
>Vanguard
>Infiltrator
>Engineer
>Adept

ME 3:
>Sentinel
>Vanguard
>Soldier
>Engineer
>Adept
>Infiltrator
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>>723790009
It has the most generic gameplay, too. It's always fascinating when anons say 2 has better gameplay when it's the most barebones one across the trilogy
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There are no other games in the same vein as ME1
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>this thread
Chads, all of you
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>>723795127
I wish I hadn't watched the interview where he mentions he voices all the vorcha, cause I can never unhear that now
>>723795062
I thought it was supposed to be the squadmates shouting ENEMIES EVERYWHERE
Am I the retard?
>>723795220
Adept is great fun in 3, pull + push deleting all grunt enemies and having a 0.5s cooldown is amazing
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>>723795294
>Adept is great fun in 3, pull + push deleting all grunt enemies and having a 0.5s cooldown is amazing
Yeah, it is fun, the additions they added to Adept in 3 like dual pull and dual push makes it an actual playable class. Adept in 2 is dogshit.
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>>723795283
I'll be honest, I don't think I've ever seen anyone rank the games as 1 > 3 > 2. I'm sure they exist, though I'd be incapable of understanding why.
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>>723795294
Weight based cooldowns was a great system
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thanks again anon for posting all these images
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>>723783773
>>723783812
LMAO these aren't even the same characters anymore. I forgot the girls name from the middle pics but she actually looks like a hideous monster in the legendary edition what in the fucking fuck is this lol?
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>>723795382
100% agreed cause I only ever play on insanity and you pretty much have to just sit there slowly sapping defenses with singularity
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>>723794327
>he kept the council alive
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>>723795228
>won't get old enough to see Liara become a space MILF
shame
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>>723795397
>Weight based cooldowns was a great system
Nah, it should've stayed like ME 1 individual skill cooldowns. Global cooldown is lame af.
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>>723783894
Isn't she modeled after a tranny?
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>>723795392
nta but I'd personally rate them 3 = 1 > 2, not that it really changes much. 2 is just slightly weaker than 1 or 3 but really I am so close to just doing it 3 = 1 = 2, but i gotta choose.
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>get anoleis and gianna to kill each other
>https://youtu.be/Gru2eHDanQw?si=PtyWb014z8z6yzaT&t=167
>the scene reminds me of my parents arguing
:(
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>>723794312
>The reaper plotline is overall pretty trash in the first place
Fuck off
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>>723795406
All good bro
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>>723795463
>global cooldowns
>shields block biotics meaning they only work when your enemy is one bullet away from dying anyway
I feel sick just thinking about ME2/3 biotics and tech
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>>723795220
>Infiltrator at the very bottom for 3
I refuse to believe I'm the only one who has fun sitting in cover, poking my head out with automatic bullet time, clicking an enemy's head, and going back into cover
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>>723795463
Was a good compromise but yeah global was bullshit
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>>723795569
Hey hey hey don't drag ME3 biotics into this. First of all, shields are much rarer than in 2. Secondly, the way power combos work there means you can have Garrus overload the shield and then slap a warp on it for a tech explosion, immediately followed by throw for big biotic explosion damage
It sounds like you never really tried out power combos which is sad. Shit's amazing
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>>723795569
3 was fun IMO, especially the changes to how shields and shit worked.

1 was just broken beyond belief, but it was fun.
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classes in terms of testosterone

chad phenotype:
soldier

chad-lite:
vanguard

reddit buzzfeed phenotype test levels:
everything else
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>>723795652
No i just haven't played ME3 since 2012
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i have a 500hz oled on the way - how is the hdr in the legendary edition (pc)?
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>>723794668
I'm pretty sure both models are brazillian
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>combat drones
>fire blast
>ice blast
>some other shit
peak ME3 gameplay, you destroyed everything and shields/barriers didn't matter anymore.
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>>723795738
That's fair. Well take it from me then, somebody who thinks ME3 is the most fun one to replay then: Shields are not an issue for adepts in 3. They are a massive issue in 2 though and you remain correct there
It's also understandable if you prefer adepts in 1, juggling every enemy at once (and then using HE ammo to juggle them even more) is hilarious



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