its been 20 years since I first became aware of Mass Effect
>>723769741https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LGYKW_OBtlU
>>723769741In my cycle
>>723769741The new one is going to have more gays and trannies so it's over.
>>723769741>>723770843This ad was betterhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rY2Vpcm8CYM
Ah, my sweet Green, Red, and Blue...
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>>723772284I picked purple.
>>723774741Why did they give purple such wide hips?
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PKzF173GqTU
>>723774087This proto-Ashley is HOT! Were there any helmet-less variants?
It pains me that Mass Effect has a dedicated thread spammer on /v/.It's the most forgettable and undeserving series, even Dragon Age had more soul.
What exactly is the MASS EFFECT? Is it like warp drive?
>>723774741Why is she such a slut for human men?
>>723781716In what sense? Mechanically? Comparable to Star Trek drives, yes.
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>>723781676lmaoOr maybe it has actual fans, being a good game.
>>723781792>>723781816I mean how does it work? Is it an artificial black hole?
>>723782119It increases or decreases mass.
all of you niggas get in here >>723781274
>>723769741https://youtu.be/OLo4RTUwFMc?si=OeDiMHkjSHJzlJKt
>>723781716you take a magical new element, element zero, which is created by supernovae (like most other elements...).then you apply an electrical current to it to manipulate the mass around it. positive current - more mass, negative current - less mass. they use that to justify FTL, energy shields, inexpensive railguns, space magic and most other technological staples of the setting.
'ate Batarians 'ate Geth'ate Reapers 'ate Quarians (not racis just don't loik 'em) luv me council simple as
>>723769741>knew absolutely nothing about Mass Effect>only played the Mass Effect 3 demo because you could unlock this really cool looking armor in Kingdoms of Amalur if you did>end up really liking Mass Effect 3, mostly for it's multiplayer>decide to give this series a shot>played the fuck out of the first two games>completely forgot about that multiplayer aspect, just wanted to finish the storyAnd we all know how that ended, but man, that was one hell of a journey. I know a lot of people say skip the first one, but I'm glad I didn't. The world building and lore in the first game is something else. I wouldn't love this series as much without it.
>>723782554>luv me councildisgustin
>>723782835>I know a lot of people say skip the first oneNo one says this unless you hang out with zoomers or something
vidya's OPVS MAGNVM
>>723772004It's crazy how gay and woke ME3 was and it was made years BEFORE the woke era. Truly frightening how bad the new one will be.
>>723782838>Ah yes, "Reapers"I sacrificed 8 cruisers and 2,400 Alliance crew members to save you
>>723769741remember to be excited for Exodus, the coming Mass Effect successor made by real former Mass Effect developersits sure to be a blast!
>>723783053How anyone defends ME2 after the plot point of "everyone just pretends Sovereign wasn't a Reaper" was introduced is just beyond me. Fuck ME2 seriously.
>>723783179It's gonna be such a return to form! It's gonna be dogshit.
The newest Ass Effect being actually good and Exodus flopping miserably would be the funniest shit ever
>>723769741>I>HAVE WONDERED ABOUT YOUhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZYnjoRbODfQ
How is Sentinel in the legendary edition?
>>723783298>not applying imagination>not discerning obvious deep state and Reaper psy-ops
>>723769741is it worth getting OG ME1 over legendary edition?
>>723783491Still neat.
>>723783298>Oh... it's you>You're officially reinstated as a Spectre again>Don't talk to usYeah okay thanks
>>723783505>deep stateThe only Deep State you meet is Cerberus and they are the ones who actually believe Reapers are real. Why didn't they pull any strings to at least make the Alliance believe in Reapers again? In ME1 they were all ready to believe in Reapers based on Shepard's bad dreams. But then in ME2 they stop believing (despite seeing a real Reaper that wipes out half the navy) because?????
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>>723783298No it makes perfect sense, the geth just had a very powerful ship.>umm ackshually it's a millions years old AI which has wiped out all life in the universe countless times. I know this because I saw it in a dream
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>>723783298If you can accept shepard's resurrection than you can accept anything
>>723783521Yes but you should just pirate it. BW/EA don't deserve a single cent.
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>>723783436AND I NEED YOU TO RECOVER
>>723783521>>723783659You can mod (MELLO) the lighting for LEYou can also restore Miranda's butt shots via mods
>>723783773Butchered.
>>723783808Why would the sky be red THOUGH?
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>>723769741I vividly remember not thinking much of it when it was announced. I was a fan of KOTOR and I didn't like what Bioware was doing with this new fake Star Wars setting.I went to a gaming expo a few months later and there I actually played the game for the first time and I remember doing a 180 and really liking it.Wat a great ride it was.
Hackett out
>>723783808>do we want the level where everyone gets massacred and you see an ungodly giant robot death machine to look demonic and hellish???>No lets have it look like a happy summer morning!!!!Modern game devs have negative talent
>>723783739yeah about that
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>>723781716The discovery of a magical element (element 0 or eezo) that gives you the force and lets you manipulate mass, fucking with E=mc2 to go faster than light
>>723772136that was boring
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>>723783812The Kelly change is what really did it for me
>>723783929I'd considered getting the LE for the achievements when it was dirt cheap but I'm glad I didn't
>>723783649Every species bar Krogan (conventionally) has its version of deep state and spooks, you only know 11, Cerberus, known Salarian STG, implied competing Dalatrasses, implied Council personal forces (of which SPECTREs are a direct special arm), intuited Turian political circles, intuited economical Volus circles, implied religious Hanar that made people like Thane (IIRC), shown Asari Thessian conspirators, Reaper servants, Leviathan servants, and naturally Alliance personal supranational intelligence agencies.Cerberus isn't actually a deep state, though it can be in an on and off way. They're at odds with Alliance.
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>>723783839because clouds reflect fire
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>>723784007Did they just delete the lighting in the LE or what
>>723783805i just checked ME LE mod section and its quite big and active with community patches, i guess i can just mod the fuckups
>>723784035>>723783808bright and sunny day on Eden Prime really sets the mood for the intro mission
>>723784054pretty much
>>723783889>try to argue its realism >portion of Eden Prime so huge it can be seen from space is red hot glass, ash and embers are raining from the sky, you literally stand next to the torched ruins of the city at the end of the mission>>723784024its sunlight reflecting through smoke in the air lol
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>>723784054you must understand that modern game developers don't know how to do lightingthey can paste lumen light sources around an environment and that's it
>>723784116we know that's not true because it happens at night
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>>723783179>>remember to be excited for Exodus,yeah, right
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>>723784003>Cerberus isn't actually a deep state, I say it is considering the fact they have secret sources of income from wealthy benefactors and have some kind of pull within the alliance. Anyway why would *any* group want to deny the Reapers, who are an obvious existential threat? The only way they might have a motivation to do so is if they were indoctrinated, and there's simply not enough to go on to prove that. The only excuse is indoctrination, and there's no proof of that, just speculation. From what the average player sees the only explanation is that the council is just retarded.
>>723784152this would be a wiki article if google wasn't on that AI faggotry and wikipedia wasn't on that faggotry faggotry
>>723784035>>723784081>>723784138The Unreal Engine and its effects have been a disaster for the video game race
>>723784256now ask your ai why it happens at night
>>723769741Mass Effect is 25 years old? Goddamn I feel too old
>>723769741It's time to let it go.
>>723784306wild are you going to ask why the sky is blue next, in spite of this thing we know is not true (gas refracting light)
>>723784382I refusejust finished replaying ME1 and im starting 2 now
>>723769741And to this day I still haven't played ME3
>>723784225>I say it is considering the fact they have secret sources of income from wealthy benefactors and have some kind of pull within the alliance.But not a complete pull. Deep state must be in control to be a state, that is to say that the term refers to a hidden state within the state that is directly responsible for most things and is mostly uncontested.Cerberus has only as much pull as much as they can get, or make it themselves being a separate proto-polity unto themselves. Unless the Alliance has a deep core that shares their values and Cerberus is an extension of them, they can't use Alliance as they please.>Anyway why would *any* group want to deny the Reapers, who are an obvious existential threat?Lack of intel, lack of reliable intel, lack of correct mentality, deep long term social sabotage by the 2 previous Shadow Brokers (before Liara) to obfuscate itself by using all species in the galaxy as a meat shield, and most obviously - they (that is to say every person in the galaxy that can be manipulated) were already manipulated preemptively (without Indoctrination tech) by unwitting agents of the Reapers.The Reapers are not limited to indoctrination, they use anything that their plan permits, and what causality permits.
>>723784517no anon. ask it why the sky is red when there's a fire at night.
>>723784664>But not a complete pull. I don't think that's required for a deep state, but whatever. The point is they're the only secret organization operating behind the scenes, and they actually seem to care about stopping the Reapers, even if they turn out to be retards that get indoctrinated. >, deep long term social sabotage by the 2 previous Shadow Brokers (before Liara) to obfuscate itself by using all species in the galaxyNothing even changes if you install Liara as shadow broker, so as it stands the only logical conclusion is that the species of the council are just retarded and refuse to respond to existential threats like the Reapers.
>>723784664>by the 2 previous Shadow BrokersAssuming, of-course that the Broker itself isn't a socio-political system made by Reapers, or made by somebody fighting the Reapers.There's no way Reapers would look over an entity that affects the whole galaxy.
>>723769741dude's already living in 2027
>>723784223this one im ok with. never liked the lighting in this level.
If all goes as planned, will you redeem my life again?
>>723784874>the onlyOne of the few only known, you should've said.>>723784874>Nothing even changes if you install Liara as shadow broker, so as it stands the only logical conclusion is that the species of the council are just retarded and refuse to respond to existential threats like the Reapers.And nothing would change, because Liara is the 3rd Broker.She's completely new and presumably shares no morals with previous one or the one Yahg killed.The Yahg was likely planned for his own death, being obviously smart, so if there were any transmigrating pursuits by the Brokers, all the standing orders that Broker's made before Liara becomes current Broker can be assumed to be optimized to be even more deceptive.Broker network is too sophisticated an endeavour to assume that it will collapse with the loss of its head, regardless whether or not any Broker expects their own death. The Yahg, taking the role by hand, likelly knew that.Worse still, the sheer fact that a member of an extremely capable indigenous pre-spaceflight species has managed to pull such a legendary feat implicates long-term betrayal of the Broker by someone smarter than both the Yahg and the Broker.
>>723784223most of that looks better aside from them fucking up samaras eyes
>>723785150>One of the few only knownYes the only one the authors bother to inform you about to any significant degree. >She's completely new No one else but you knows she's new, she could alter information throughout the galaxy at will, yet at the beginning of 3 everyone at the top of the human government is still acting as if the Reapers are a myth right up until they arrive.
>>723784774you're not going to stop being retarded are you, this is bait
>>723784223bodied that freak
>>723783298Yeah sorry fag you got killed in the intro by an alien race that didnt exist last game gg. No we arent going anywhere with your ability to understand prothean, no we're not exploring ruins looking for weapons and fighting off others doing the same. Nope, no activating relays in a desperate search for a silver bullet. Time to work for a humans-first org that spends its time torturing humans. The only Cerberus feeling mission in that was the Arrival dlc where you wipe out batarian filth. There should have been paragon missions dedicated to attacking alien infrastructure and false-flags on shipping or something. I dunno. I hate the aliens in mass effect having a competent glowies but all humans have are retards and we dont get to kill enough. Did you know they claim First Contact War only had 620 human casualties? The turians and Systems Allians are rewriting history to pretend nobody died there. We know better. Don't trust any of these aliens.talizora nude mods lore friendly? how install
>>723785385thank you for proving my point.
>>723769741>4 years agohttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Lg-Ctg6k_Ao
>>723786392guess its stuck in dev hell because this is the first time ive seen this trailer
Nov 7 is gonna suck lmao
We'll never get kino like this again
>>723783179I can't, I have anhedonia
>>7237853211/2Technically you have an "ex"-STG buddy on board, but as you've said, significant degree.There are comics and books, of-course, but I've read only a few long ago, so I'm unsure if any showed anything.How much extra content is there anyway?>No one else but you knows she's new, she could alter information throughout the galaxy at will, yet at the beginning of 3 everyone at the top of the human government is still acting as if the Reapers are a myth right up until they arrive.Ah, but she can't. It'd be logistically meaningless, would compromise the network, would threaten her, would make status quo unpredictable and may make Reapers do something funny.Concurrently this is probably how the Crucible was found, through Broker archives and access on Protheans. Liara calls the Alliance, shares intel, gets there and the Reapers consequently get even more reasons to attack humans and Sol first.To put into perspective the predicament Liara is in:She assumes the mantle of a full galaxy size personal intel network with aims of and operational scope of manipulating billions to trillions of sapients.At the same time it must stay ahead of everyone.As it is an all time direct threat to every sovereignty and interest in the galaxy, the officially stated public opinion on the Broker's MO as using profit for competitive entanglement cannot work because the price of Broker existing vastly outweighs every opposite rationale no matter how much power Broker has.Therefore Broker must have unknown unknowns, actual power and personal resources.
>>723787038Funny how all the marketing was just bullshit as this just isn't a thing in the game. Although ME1 was very rushed and unfinished in hindsight. The main story is actually very short and all the side content is fucking terrible minimal effort shit.
>>723769741Yeah, it sucks how bad things stick in your memory so much more than good tings. Don't worry, in another 20 years you should start to forget about Mass Effect, just try not to remind yourself.
>>723787210True but still better than the slop that comes out today or anything bioware has released since 2010
>>723786392I don't want more Liara. If there's more Liara then I want all fucking characters to return>>723786525If anything, they'll double down on it since they pretty much killed Dragon Age and have been shitting the bed for too long
>>723787125Because of that, Broker cannot act irrationally without losing control, as not all people know that they work for Broker, not all people that work for Broker "personally" know that the Broker has "changed", some agents may be lost, and the system cannot be fully mobilized without rising alarms of any sort.Concurrently, issuing an order requires intelligence and will carry prices, and Liara, though highly capable, cannot afford miscalculations that may backfire within the scope of Reaper War, because though she has control of some systems, she has no equivalent personal forces to maintain guaranteed control and predictability of all systems.She has to pretend to be the Broker at all times and act like he did, even in the galaxy at war, otherwise the system will be compromised.As war progresses, she mobilizes more of what she can, behind the scenes (such as setting up at least some Mass Effect multiplayer missions), but she is limited even with existential threads.Some agents will be outright gone as they are counter-attacked or hunted by Cerberus, by any opportunistic, by friendly-fire, and by Reapers themselves.
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still cry whenever i replay the gamesstill fall in love with all the unique crew dialogue in 3still fall in love with citadel dlc and think it is genuinely one of the greatest love letters in gaming historystill finding new things to love about all 3 games each replay i doLE + mods has been super gnarly, highly rec to anyone out there. a lot of fun mods for both QoL as well as just adding fun new shit.
>>723787038I love how these old ads were aimed at an audience with at least 110 IQ. You can feel the agitation and thought process of Shepard, as he begins to come up with some semblance of a plan here.An ad like this would be lost on most 'gamers' today.
>>723789509based video game enjoyer
>>723789509I want to LAN 3 on a pirated copy, is that feasible?
>>723789676Strictly going off of a google search, but you should be able to. ME3 Private Server Emulator (https://github.com/PrivateServerEmulator/ME3PSE) seems to be what people online are suggesting. Assuming it's still running/working normally, I don't see why you'd have any issues connecting to the LAN network on a pirated game.
I always get bored at ME2. I need to push through it to experience 3 + citadel. 2 feels a bit soulless compared to 1. has worse combat and the story goes nowhere- its just a series of side-quests
>>7237900092 is capeshit filler
>>7237900092 was an attempt to make ME a normie-centric franchise. Hence why it's the weak point.See>>723790098accuratley sums it up.
>>7237900092 has the best companions and yeah i agree the story is a bit weak prior to collecting everyone, but after that it realllly picks up.i guess just treat it as half learning about all these new crewmates, becoming close to them, etc. then the last chunk of game setting the precursor for the big finale that is 3. doing the final suicide mission correctly and not killing anyone is worth reloading for, if its your first time playing. will make 3 a lot more enjoyable imo
>>723790098>>723790165pretty crazy. I remember people used to claim ME2 was the strongest. I never understood it even at the timeAlso the combat is very of its time. a simple algorithm where you're punished if you're not in sticky cover for x seconds. really trash.
>>723790276even if i dont like jack as a character and sacrificing her was the best thing i remember from me2 even after all these years?
>>723790383i am heavily, heavily biased as jack/liara are always my romance options lel but i think jack blossoms into a really nice character.her connection/talks with shep makes her become an instructor for biotics at an academy. basically making sure that no one goes through what she had to go through. she's much more reserved and cares deeply about the kids she has under her wing, a big change from the state you find her in 2. her character development is really strong, probably one of the biggest changes across any of the crewmembers.
How does it compare to Kotor games?
>>723790693Way better in every single way
>>723783726The Council already was too trustful of a Spectre once, why would they do it again?
>>723790839Every single way except you can't be Sith
>>723790839This.Star Wars isn't actually a good setting and Bioware made up all the good bits. With ME they're free to build a world from scratch, so it's naturally better.Being a newer game, ME just mogs KOTOR in visuals and fluidity of gameplay.
>>723790693>better companions>better story>better music (maybe debatable, i can't remember much)>better combat>also debatable worlds/levels, i prefer ME thoughyeah
>>723790991sure you canthere's a red button you push to say mean stuff and your face gets all evil and scary
>>723790693KoTOR will always have the greater legacy.There are many reasons why, but the main one is that it told a complete story in one game instead of dragging it over a trilogy with the meme that is "save importing".
>>723791171>kotor will always have the greater legacywhat? on what earth? the 2nd game is clearly unfinished. at best you have one and a half games.
>>723787210>The main story is actually very short and all the side content is fucking terrible minimal effort shit.Surprised you didn't get 10 (You)s calling that side content great and you a retarded zoomie yet. There was ONE interesting side mission involving the funky prothean orb, that's it.
>>723769741and you haven't had sex once in that time...sad!
about save importing... am I able to change my class from 1 to 2 and keep my choices? the classes change drastically right?
It's wild that Mass effect 1, 2 and 3 fit into one console generation. Three great games in 5 years
>>723785780You know, Prothean knowledge is meaningless.It is so because the Protheans have lost, and because all relics are gone or destroyed, and those that remain, that weren't found by the Reapers or left by them deliberately as their tactic dictates (people forget this part), were excavated or ransacked.The joke on Protheans is explicit, the Protheans have made only a few ventures against the Reapers, - The Conduit, a far more complex thing than a mere mass relay and Citadel relay lock, and the Crucible, which is of dubious origin, Javik making it there, and the Eden Prime Beacon, lucking out with its condition, correctly activated by Saren, and Shepard being a tough nut to survive it.That's it. There is nothing else left. The Reapers have destroyed much, the Collectors finished it. Galactic forensics.>I hate the aliens in mass effect having a competent glowies but all humans have are retards and we dont get to kill enough.That's the joke, pal. Sci-fi readers apply incorrect expectations. They do not grasp that the Mass Effect isn't a drama or theatrical play, it's an IRL realism story about glowies. They think they are smart for calling obvious foolishness but don't grasp its purpose, because they aren't as smart as they think at all.1/?
>>723791282of course, that was the main selling point of the series pretty much.the classes change a bit yeah, me1 was a bit simplistic in some regards.
>>723782984At the time I welcomed having a gay and a lesbian character in a video game. It was fine! But in hindsight, I almost can't stand it, because it's where they opened the floodgates.
>>723791282Yes, you keep everything choice-wise and get an option to change class.There is even lore explaniations of why your class-changed, so you don't even fuck it up from a role-playing perspective.
>>723791369Humans and aliens are in a precarious situation, - they are spacefaring civilizations with FTL technology.The sheer complexity cannot be understated. Massive populations are hard to manage. Chaos only increases, as does complexity. The sheer ubiquitous power Element Zero allows is inhuman.From kinetics that can easily blow up worlds, to paradigm altering technology that can destroy the galaxy , - least dangerous uses, by the way, eezo makes long-term control exceptionally hard, sometimes impossible.A kilogram of antimatter is a BIG problem. A microgram of Eezo by its actual implications is an immediatelly ASTRONOMIC problem. Especially since smaller eezo amounts are used for most menial tasks and items.Rogues cannot be afforded.There is one solution. Assuming Direct Control.Have you ever looked at modern politics? Europe, USA Senate, etc? Ever wondered why public politicians are seemingly incompetent? It is because they are optimized by their financial elites to be pliable.But the consequence of putting in your own pawns, less competent but controllable, everywhere, is that the total competence plummets.Wilful agents will rebel. Incompetent ones won't. As the institutions become substandard, so do their politicians.The "retards" you see are only occasional. The Alliance local tribunal meet-up in he beginning of 3 is one such thing, but also not, - they were mostly panicking.But what you do not see is the ostensible "fact" of Mass Effect, intelligence runs the show. Humans and aliens are compent, hypercompetent and incompetent, and tthis varies from individuals to individuals.Everything has surveillance, everything is at war all the time.2/?
>>723791417>Have you ever looked at modern politics? Europe, USA Senate, etc? Ever wondered why public politicians are seemingly incompetent? It is because they are optimized by their financial elites to be pliable.NtaNo, it's the boomers
>>723791417Let us examine an IRL item: firearm forensics.IRL gun use can be identified by various technological construction quirks, by registers, logistical reports and so on.And naturally, by ballistics.Mass Effect weapons fire computer variated size pellets. There are no means to identify them by ballistic forensic analysis tied to a gun or a batch of guns because the pellets disintigrate too much.And every gun has eezo in it. Take a batch, extract it and suddenly one can have an extremely dangerous piece of matter that can be applied for anything, say, while using one of those omnitools.That's a security risk. You can say it's a heavy risk...
>>723791484To counter-act that, one needs ubiquitous control, that is natural, unobtrusive, and normalized, and unsuspected. It's not even perceived.Just like there is the Shadow Broker, a massive system, there is the pan-galactic eezo civilizational social control system that controls everything. It's not necessarily centralized, but nevertheless it is there as an "agreement".Military runs the show. High tier, high skill runs the show. High money, new, old, certain politicians and free and rogue agents that pass the filter make it.Everyone else is normal or "normal".Shepard is the elite human glowie. This is why s/he has N7 code, and why N7 is a publicly known item, in spite of obvious operational risks of wearing VIP ranks. Spooks are never known, so why is N7 public?It is precisely because of what the rank of N7, of Asari Commando, of STG et al represent.N7 is the rank of a field active military official answering to and carrying the intentions of highest government authority comparable to the SPECTRE title, which may or may not be known or unknown to the agent.If an N7 is on the block, should they die or be blemished - and die they may, if you are really THAT good, - you and everyone will be in a shitshow at an undetermined place and time.At once disposable and not, a single spook of this stature controls much simply by being there, and where an N7 or STG is, there are sand lines that can only be resolved by more spookery, by "gentleman's rules" ala IRL "avoid torture and try to convert" spywork tradition.This is why Shepard can pass so assuredly through any situation. He is close to the top where things are done.This is why other normal people look so incompetent, - they live their lives, optimized by others.And this is why Shepard's peers and the Council are so antagonistic yet "chummy", - they are on the same wavelength.They do a lot of things unsaid because they live in their own elite sphere.
>>723791459Boomers are also optimized, thoroughly so, so much so they make problems. Boomers are nothing if not predictable.
>>723783773The eyes in particular just look ME3-ified in ME1 and ME2 now. They used to look soulful in the OT, but when you get to 3 some intern did a hack job and made everyone have dead eyes.There's an interesting (and probably deleted now) Tweet series from an animator by the name Jonathan Cooper, who worked on ME1/2, who said he won an argument in the animations dept. during ME1 to face eyes forward by default on character models. Some will argue it's bad animation practice because it means when you're animating, the resting position of eyes is slightly upward and having to deal with an offset. But he knew it would make characters look alive during gameplay and automated sequences. I'm pretty sure they fucked this up when they decided to overhaul the character engine during ME3. 70% of the workforce on ME3 was contractors and outsourcing, and people who didn't stay on the project for its whole duration, so someone who got power fucked up the face engine, trying to optimize its poly count, and it ruined the whole character creator system. This is why FemSheps import so poorly into ME3. Originally, the game shipped without being able to even import faces from an ME1 save. They had to hack together a patch to make it possible a month after launch, and Legendary Edition only "fixed" the problem by backporting the character proportions into the first 2 games. Even so, FemSheps look awkward as hell, and now there's even more inconsistency between ME1 and ME2.
is this ai posting or something whats going oncan we just get back to talking about mako and doing sweet flips on it
>it's 2011-2012>visit the Cerberus/TIM thread on the BSN>they're literally all nazis
>>723791654No, I was just pointing out a quirk of the setting to an Anon. Most Mass Effect players thorougly fail to grasp certain things about it.
>>723784138>Left: Boomer entertainment industry>Right: Zillenial entertainment industryThe talent drain is real. We're just not the same anymore.
>>723791761I swear Fortnite has fucked the younger gens perception of lighting. Like everything has this cartoon monolight glow where illumination is a binary thing, ie; fully lit or no light.
>>723784225Cerberus's archetype is certainly not "deep state". If anything in the setting is the Deep State, it's the Council, with sometimes untrustworthy back-room politics and treason while pretending they're working together.Cerberus is more like Elon Musk or BlackRock something like that. They're a privatized version of a government apparatus that's gone rogue (not convinced BlackRock isn't simply working on behalf of governments though) and using crazy ponzi schemes to work completely unregulated, with zero ethics, going as far as terrorism or unethical science experiments that use involuntary victims. It's very reminiscent of things Elon has been doing, whether he's cutting into the government or hushing cases of test-cases with the Brain Chip that gave someone brain damage.
>>723791647Can one mod this out in 3?
>>723791713The users?Is that a bad thing? Am I supposed to feel something about it?
>>723791713we had a great time trolling that placeI made that image with all the cringe signature banners
>>723791887Well, yeah. It's no different than people that grew up in the star years of Metallica who had to wrestle with the rise of hip-hop, emo metal and "my ex-boyfriend is mean" pop-music just 10-20 years later. That's where video games are now, and there's zero coming back, now that it's reached that level. The next "scene" won't be video games.I personally believe that culture and experimentation always forms around a previously unseen avenue. Not saying there couldn't be something after the beatles for video games, but basically, once the stake has been claimed, it invites the true masses, and they enshittify everything just by becoming part of it, and not understanding why it wasn't largely for them. They begin to criticize things that were part of the industry's DNA, and it discards its own foundation to become something more boring and safe, with increased governmental oversight, which is also exactly how Disney went from being The Company That Made Those Emotionally Solid Cartoons, to becoming The Company That Makes Sanitized Family Sit Coms on Disney Channel... And Bad Star Wars Movies.The next scene won't be gaming. I'm sure one day there'll be something obvious, that's as new and exciting as gaming once was, but it's just not something we can imagine right now.
>>723791957Nah, the Council is only partially that, as they have an official supra-polity mandate.Even with their own personal resources, the Council cannot act out its purpose without homeworld authority from each faction member, and each councilor pursues their personal and species-wide interests at the same time as the Council interests.It is probably skewed in some areas, but a, say, Salarian councilor has no official presense in, say, Turian closed-doors military hierarchy.
>>723791975Not really. Like, there's 2 possibilities and I've meddled.>1: Offset the eye rotation on everythingNice....... now you have to edit all the official animation so the characters don't look into their skulls.>2: Fix the eye textureIt looks better, using the ME2 eye texture, and an attempt to reuse the material, but the truth is that the shader artist who worked on 1/2 knew what they were doing with the softness and texture of the eyes, so they're shaded similarly to real human eyeballs. In 3 someone took a round object and slapped a shiny cubemap texture over it, so it has this glassy look. They fixed it by making the eyes extra glassy in all 3 games in the remaster.The closest fix is the mod by Catachrism, which also overhauls the lighting in LE1 so it looks more like the original.
>>723782294Since this thread died I'll ask here, what are some other sci-fi stories about apocalypses?
>>723792501Can't beat the originals, huh?
>>723792348True enough, but one of the writers that quit during 2 said that they frequently had story meetings discussing that "what if the Council is indoctrinated the whole time." The Council Chamber has a Reaper shape which I always took to be symbolic. Obviously, the Citadel is a Reaper construct, but the fact that the room that has the heads of galactic politics is a Reaper shaped room, I felt could've been a hint that even the most influential people to combat the Reapers were always under influence instead.
>>723792089kek I miss the endless debate threads so muchEveryone was so passionate back then
>>723792587There are a lot of things I think looks more delicious about LE1, but the part that bothers me is the flat lighting of most places later in the game, and also the way they took assets directly from ME3 and ported into ME1, like the big-chested scientist uniforms. I don't mind some nice boobs, but I liked the original look of uniforms and everything in ME1. Unfortunately the modding community is largely zoomers who were kids playing ME3, so they have this childlike vision that the series should all look like that game. So everything is being Star Wars "prequelized" by the modding scene most of the time.
>>7237926562010 was the fucking zeitgeist. People who missed it haven't had the true Mass Effect experience.
>>723792656I remember quarian sweat
Do you miss old BSN? It had a comfy design.
>>723792828There's a new BSN? Just when I thought that place couldn't be any more cancerous
>>723792820lol
>>723792089do you still have it? i think i know what you're talking about as i saw something posted here a lot back in ~2011 or so, but it's been so long.
>>723792903Let me grab my external HDD, I'll post all the nostalgia
>>723792969cheers anon, i always get a kick at seeing all the old stuff and get reminded of all the laughs i used to have on /v/ and 4chan back then. like i said, never posted on the bioware forums but i'd always see screenshots and i'd be dying laughing at how insane some people were.
>>723792730does this mod not fix it?https://www.nexusmods.com/masseffectlegendaryedition/mods/1500
>>723783298I just hated the cookie cutter companions and side quests. Real lack of soul compared to the first.
>>723792875Old as in ye olde, nicer times, haha. I actually haven't visited since 2011.There's a BSN archive, I think, different layout, and some links are gone, like that one ME3 fan game.
>>723792903Here it is
>>723782835>they never bothered to add in MP to LE despite it surpassing expectations and them teasing about it after releasestill mad
This one was good fun to make
>>723793048Mostly. But honestly I still prefer just downloading the original ME1 on InternetArchive, and installing MEUITM. It still looks kino as fuck. ME2 is also on that site, and there's a NoDVD crack for 3 once you've boughted it, and you can actually load up saves from OT3 into Legendary Edition, so if you're okay with the broken particle effects, you can just play OT1/2 and then LE3.
>>723793165>I SUPPORT MIRANDA'S ASS>MORRIGAN FOREVERGiga Based.
>>723781816First game was such a great setup. Too bad the sequels shit all over it.
Will be posting random shit I made but if you ask anything I may have it in the same folder
>>723782984I still remember in ME3 getting meany bad guy points for turning down the faggot pilot. You should get good guy points for not wanting to ruin another man's asshole. That pissed me off, but not as much as the ending. Fuck ME3.
>>723792565you mean games about actively trying to prevent galactic extinction or games set in an apocalyptic/post-apocalyptic setting?
>>723793048i think when i played i did ALOT (texture pack) + its Improved Static Lighting. not sure how it relates to the one you linked since i never tried it, but i had a blast.
>>723769741A shame they never made any sequels
>>723793345Any meme pics from 2010? Or TIM memes?Moddb fan group used to have a lot, but all the pictures before late 2011-early 2012 are just gone, modern Deviantart is unwieldy, eh.Thanks in advance anyway.
>tfw the Therum disco krogan walk loop youtube video is gonedang it
>>723793483Posting oldest stuff
>>723785780>I hate the aliens in mass effect having a competent glowies but all humans have are retards and we dont get to kill enough.Then you should love ME2 because you fight WAAYYYY more humans in ME2 than any of the other games.
>>723793165was there a thane cult on there or somethign what the hell is happening
>>723793559Haha!
>>723792828Yes. I'm not ashamed to say it was my favorite site back then, along with other game forumsThere was no better feeling than coming home and seeing what schizo nonsense was happening now like >>723792891 or that time the cullen romance thread suddenly starting calling him a rapist and begging visitors not to romance him>>723792875They changed the format for the official bsn to pic related, then it shut down, now there's an unofficial bsn that never really took off and is pretty much dead now
>you now remember buying Borker with bioware points or whatever the fuck they were called
Remember when Protheans were a race of Space Jockeys?
>>723793730I remember clicking giveme2entitlements.exe
>>723793730lol I also remember that stupid page on the bsn where it showed all your dlcand that time the community manager got reprimanded for being a fucking sexist incel pig to felicia day
>>723783179it's owned by WotC, it's gonna be dogshit
>>723792828
>>7237816761. N7 Day is right around the corner 2. ME threads begets ME threads as people are drawn to replaying the games and wanting to talk about 'em3. ME was always more popular than DA, even back in the day, to such a degree the DA team at BioWare was even jelly of the attention the ME team received
>>723793837This absolute unit
my magnum opus
>>723793407>I still remember in ME3 getting meany bad guy points for turning down the faggot pilotNever happened
>>723793952>someone else has random pictures of chris priestly at his desk saved on their computerThat's a relief
>>723793904end of rine has to be top 5 /v/ memes of all time, right? maybe top 10, but still.
This shit was a gateway drug to Star Trek
>>723794085and just the desk but I can't find that one
ME 2 is the best by far. The reaper plotline is overall pretty trash in the first place so dealing with a whole different sub enemy species was actually welcome. It's like the only game ever where your people are being invaded by aliens, so you gather a crew and say fuck it and go to their home planet and blow it up. It literally doesn't get more badass then that.ME 1 does have those great moments like talking with Sovereign or Vigil, but I feel like some people forget how FUCKING BORING most of the game is overall, not the combat though I actually think the combat is underrated and damage scales harder in ME 1 than any of the other games.ME 3 was just fucking rushed to no end. It's crazy like it seemed like such a long time before ME 2 and ME 3, but then you look back and Mass Effect 3 was made in TWO YEARS!! Like am I crazy or is this possibly the biggest undertaking for production on a video game ever? But yeah there was so much wrong with ME 3.
>>723794176Mass Effect is actually Babylon 5 tho. Like the entire plot of all three games is airlifted straight from B5.
>>723783298Especially when the Council OUTRIGHT AGREES THE REAPERS EXIST IN 1'S EPILOGUE FUCK what a retarded way to derail the entire trilogy and never recover
>>723793432Both, it can be a game or some other medium.
>>723794035And the follow up thread that got Stanley Woo'd set off a chain reaction that had Hamburger Helper leave BiowareMy life's work
>>723794312I don't think I can accurately judge whether ME1's story is boring anymore, played it too many times. Very based that you pointed out the combat is actually great though
>>723793315It irks me when people say "Mass Effect peaked with ME2!". Because sure the gameplay was.... smoother. I will give it that (never liked how they added generic laser 'clips' to everything though). But the story didn't go ANYWHERE, they just added some dumb space roaches that you spend the whole game dealing with and pretty much nothing worthwhile happened. Some of the characters were pretty poorly written as well, for example how they turned Tali into a generic blushing anime waifu.
>>723793886Ashley is just the mystery meat of the future, the writers had a huge race mixing fetish.Kaidan is equally mutted and you can save him from becoming gay by killing him so Ashley is the lesser evil.
I miss ME3 multiplayer
Just a little reminder that everyone should play Advent Rising at least once. It's crazy how similar the gameplay is to ME1
I just want to replay the first one. Is the Legendary Edition good enough (and moddable enough)?
>>723794458>Citadel Sidequests>Finding Liara>Feros>Noveria (outside of the hot labs)and honestly...>Eden PrimeThat doesn't leave much game left, but what is left is REALLY REALLY freaking good.
>>723794312>ME 2 is the best by farlollmao even >The reaper plotline is overall pretty trash in the first placeYeah that's why people back in the day adored Sovereign, the Virmire reveal, Ilos and the entirety of the endgame? Go back to 2007/8/9 and see if there's anyone *not* hyped for the future of the Reaper plot before 2 threw it out the fucking window
>>723789597I think you wrote it too pretentiously but I get what you meant. The ads of old where you had to use your imagination do feel superior. But that's true for the games that require you fill in the blanks yourself as well.
>>723789597>i'm so high IQ that children's video games were targeted at me specifically
>>723794337
>>723794698These kinds of memes are always funny because it exposes someone getting utterly filtered in a game you're meant to replay and shifting the blame.
>>723794759I just don't understand how someone who's played ME1 back then would think the Reapers would be back so soon for the second game when you've destroyed (mostly) their only means of fast traveling into The Milky Way
>>723793748Just reading this is enough to feel pain. Such innocent humour. Maaan
>>723794781>Harbringer likes ASSUMING DIRECT CONTROLlel
>>723783739That's the thing, Shepard's resurrection was as unbelievably fucking awful.
Any KINO historian fans here?https://youtu.be/nnra514dXWA?si=_l3MAI9BM1w8XLOf
>>723794885I miss mspaint high effort memes so much
>>723787210The side content great and you a retarded zoomie but unironically
>>723795062Replaying right now and it's amusing realizing that half of those lines are just Mark Meer as well
>>723795082I forgot how hard to read these are. Gotta zoom in a bit
>>723795143
ALL CLASSES RANKEDME 1:>Adept>Sentinel>Infiltrator>Vanguard>Soldier>EngineerME 2:>Soldier>Sentinel>Vanguard>Infiltrator>Engineer>AdeptME 3:>Sentinel>Vanguard>Soldier>Engineer>Adept>Infiltrator
>>723790009It has the most generic gameplay, too. It's always fascinating when anons say 2 has better gameplay when it's the most barebones one across the trilogy
There are no other games in the same vein as ME1
>this threadChads, all of you
>>723795127I wish I hadn't watched the interview where he mentions he voices all the vorcha, cause I can never unhear that now>>723795062I thought it was supposed to be the squadmates shouting ENEMIES EVERYWHEREAm I the retard?>>723795220Adept is great fun in 3, pull + push deleting all grunt enemies and having a 0.5s cooldown is amazing
>>723795294>Adept is great fun in 3, pull + push deleting all grunt enemies and having a 0.5s cooldown is amazingYeah, it is fun, the additions they added to Adept in 3 like dual pull and dual push makes it an actual playable class. Adept in 2 is dogshit.
>>723795283I'll be honest, I don't think I've ever seen anyone rank the games as 1 > 3 > 2. I'm sure they exist, though I'd be incapable of understanding why.
>>723795294Weight based cooldowns was a great system
thanks again anon for posting all these images
>>723783773>>723783812LMAO these aren't even the same characters anymore. I forgot the girls name from the middle pics but she actually looks like a hideous monster in the legendary edition what in the fucking fuck is this lol?
>>723795382100% agreed cause I only ever play on insanity and you pretty much have to just sit there slowly sapping defenses with singularity
>>723794327>he kept the council alive
>>723795228>won't get old enough to see Liara become a space MILFshame
>>723795397>Weight based cooldowns was a great systemNah, it should've stayed like ME 1 individual skill cooldowns. Global cooldown is lame af.
>>723783894Isn't she modeled after a tranny?
>>723795392nta but I'd personally rate them 3 = 1 > 2, not that it really changes much. 2 is just slightly weaker than 1 or 3 but really I am so close to just doing it 3 = 1 = 2, but i gotta choose.
>get anoleis and gianna to kill each other>https://youtu.be/Gru2eHDanQw?si=PtyWb014z8z6yzaT&t=167>the scene reminds me of my parents arguing:(
>>723794312>The reaper plotline is overall pretty trash in the first placeFuck off
>>723795406All good bro
>>723795463>global cooldowns>shields block biotics meaning they only work when your enemy is one bullet away from dying anywayI feel sick just thinking about ME2/3 biotics and tech
>>723795220>Infiltrator at the very bottom for 3I refuse to believe I'm the only one who has fun sitting in cover, poking my head out with automatic bullet time, clicking an enemy's head, and going back into cover
>>723795463Was a good compromise but yeah global was bullshit
>>723795569Hey hey hey don't drag ME3 biotics into this. First of all, shields are much rarer than in 2. Secondly, the way power combos work there means you can have Garrus overload the shield and then slap a warp on it for a tech explosion, immediately followed by throw for big biotic explosion damageIt sounds like you never really tried out power combos which is sad. Shit's amazing
>>723795487
>>7237955693 was fun IMO, especially the changes to how shields and shit worked.1 was just broken beyond belief, but it was fun.
classes in terms of testosteronechad phenotype:soldierchad-lite:vanguardreddit buzzfeed phenotype test levels:everything else
>>723795652No i just haven't played ME3 since 2012
i have a 500hz oled on the way - how is the hdr in the legendary edition (pc)?
>>723794668I'm pretty sure both models are brazillian
>combat drones>fire blast>ice blast>some other shitpeak ME3 gameplay, you destroyed everything and shields/barriers didn't matter anymore.
>>723795738That's fair. Well take it from me then, somebody who thinks ME3 is the most fun one to replay then: Shields are not an issue for adepts in 3. They are a massive issue in 2 though and you remain correct thereIt's also understandable if you prefer adepts in 1, juggling every enemy at once (and then using HE ammo to juggle them even more) is hilarious
>>723770843Man I'm so glad we got our super model shepaloo instead of this guy lol
>>723795504It is. With the collectors it was like lets find out where they live and annihilate them. But with Reapers, they just aren't fightable. You know that the story wouldn't go down by killing them 1 by 1, you know there is going to be some dumb killswitch button bullshit involved somehow. The plot was honestly doomed from the start and ME 2 didn't have anything to do with it. Hell, the devs didn't even know how they wanted to kill the reapers months before release.
>>723795857>juggling every enemy at onceI still remember fondly when Saren turned into a geth ghost for the final boss fight, with the ability to break out of biotics within like a second... which still meant my adept and his squadmates could juggle him indefinitely
>>723774741a literal muslim
>>723795935>you know there is going to be some dumb killswitch button bullshit involved somehowNo you don't.
we'll bang ok..
>>723796057I mean, I literally saw a killswitch ending coming from miles away when I originally played that's why I felt so disappointed. I mean how else are you going to kill all of those reapers?
Things I never understood, even at the time>why anyone thought nuBioware would actually have any of the previous choices matter in ME3>why anyone thought there could possibly be a smart solution to the Reapers>why anyone ever treated the Citadel DLC as some kinda of awesome redemption arc, it's just a few hours of Marvel quips assigned to random characters
>>723796232Really, Commander?
>>723796185lmao
>>723796175
>>723782119>run an electric current though element 0>drastically reduces mass>???>profit
>>723789597I don't think you posted this pretentiously at all. You are 100% correct in your assumptions.
>>723796280What are the multiplayer quests? The ones that are like SHEPARD YOU HAVE TO PROTECT THESE 6 BOXES BEFORE THOSE ATLAS MECHS DESTROY THEM?Never played the MP so I wouldn't know which maps are MP maps
>>723795062I WILL DESTROY YOU!I WILL DESTROY YOU!
i wish i got to experience 3's multiplayer
>>723795917I actually would've been okay with this if the Catalyst was portrayed as a completely insane AIWhy we're forced to talk to it, take it seriously, agree with it, and do what it says is beyond me
>>723796175>why anyone thought nuBioware would actually have any of the previous choices matter in ME3Because there were significant meberberries in 2.>why anyone thought there could possibly be a smart solution to the ReapersI mean that's what I'm saying>why anyone ever treated the Citadel DLC as some kinda of awesome redemption arc, it's just a few hours of Marvel quips assigned to random charactersIt didn't really feel that way when it came out. Especially because Marvel quippage wasn't really as massive of a thing yet. Only the first avengers movie was out in 2012. We weren't really seeing the constant quippage until like Guardians of the Galaxy or Infinity War.But yeah definitely it's almost cringeworthy to play now the lines seem so forced. Like let's make every character, even the ones who are always super serious, to now be stand up comedians cracking jokes every 5 feet.
>>723782984That gears one
>>723794894>I just don't understand how someone who's played ME1 back then would think the Reapers would be back so soonYeah I wonder
I hear he's still mad
>>723796379It's still active.
>>723796420>It didn't really feel that way when it came outI disagree. I can't remember what the exact lines were but I remember during and after a combat section it became really obvious they wrote a bunch of quips and then just assigned them to a character who hadn't spoken in a while. I probably played it a year or two after release, can't remember since I pirated it
>>723796487Can I play on a pirated copy? No way Ea still sells the original ME3
>>7237964202012 is quite literally the point in time where quipping became noticeable and annoying.
>>723794668You can save him from becoming gay by romancing someone else by the time you first talk to him post-coup
>>723795397Eh, 50/50. Balance wise it works, but lore wise it is unintuitive.
Would you betray your race for an asari?
>>723796595>lore wiseFuckin thermal clips
>>723796232>Be Me>Doing a 100% ME2 run>Decide to deplete all planets>Buy a shitton of probes>Proceed to master planet scanning and deplete every single planet possible>Realize I spent all my money on probes and there's not even enough money available to make to get all required ship upgrades>Run bricked
>>723796673Wasted idea desu
>>723796563>No way Ea still sells the original ME3Yeah you can still buy original ME3 on origin or steam.
>>723796523I found one example I vaguely remembered, this conversation after you get sealed in a vaulthttps://youtu.be/mYHllI5uqhg?t=5203It's post-irony poisoned from top to bottom
>>723796594Too late
>>723794698Yeah what >>723794885 said.
>>723796723How do people not like the beginning of ME2? It's by far the best beginning.
>ME1>Tyrone Shepard, Earthborn, Ruthless>The baddest, blackest Canadian in the Milky Way>Punch Al-Jilani>Kill Rachni Queen>Virmire Kaidan>Kill Council>Pick Udina for Council>ME2>Punch Al-Jilani>Shoot Conrad on foot, dies later>Kill Samara over Morinth>No ship upgrades>Crew gets kidnapped>Do a bunch of random assignments and take my sweet time>Go through the Omega 4 Relay>Jack eats a lazor, dies>Kasumi gets blasted, dies>Thane gets impaled, dies>Volunteer Jacob to vents, dies>Legion leads distraction team, dies>Garrus escorts Chakwas back, dies>Cocky Miranda holds biotic bubble, Tali gets seeker swarmed and dies>Kill babby Reaper, Mordin in squad dies>Miranda leading the ground team dies, Grunt too>Shepard makes it out alive>Keep the base>ME3>Punch Al-Jilani>Tell Allers to fuck off, later dies>Don't recuit Javik, dies>Sabotage Genophage cure, kill Padok Wiks>Female Krogan dies>Kill Wrex in confrontation>Kill Ashley during the coup>Kill Udina>Genocide Quarians over Geth>STEEEEVE dies>Kill banshee Morinth>Low EMS, Vega and Liara die on the beam run>Kill Illusive Man>Pick Destroy, wipe geth, EDI>Shepard dies>Only Zaeed made it out alive that day
>>723796797People praised this but then complained about Veilguard dialogue
>>723794312It is possible 3 was being developed even during the production of ME2.
>>723795220Retarded ranking made by a retarded anon
>>723796832How are people too retarded to not have Wrex die>playing a Bioware karma system game without maxing either side
>>723781676>It's the most forgettable and undeserving seriesJust say that you hate sci-fi, okay?
>>723796832I always let her rig the bomb because why would I send a grunt with the elite STG group? That's a Staff lieutenant jobThen why would I go back for said grunt?
>>723796921Is there any class that isn't fun in 3? I don't particularly like Engineer but that's just cause I get annoyed how long the cryo animation takes before the enemy is counted as frozen
>>723796834Because you fucking die for no reason
I never punch Al-Jilani. You?
>>723796904Maybe pre-production, but production started basically right after ME 2 released.
>>723790276>the story is a bit weak prior to collecting everyone, but after that it realllly picks upAnon, 'after that' the game just ends. You collect some squadmate Pokemons and go to Horizon, collect some more and go to the stupid trap inside the Collector Ship; collect Legion, the last squadmate, at the same time as the IFF, after which there's nothing left to do but the final mission in the game
>>723795392>I'd be incapable of understanding whyRead >>723170238
Alright lads I'm going to bed
>>723797028I do if I'm on a Renegade playthrough
>>723795392>though I'd be incapable of understanding why.ME1 is actually goodME3 has the best combatME2 is worse at everything than either of those
>>723795917>>723796389
Behold! The Biotic God! Even the Reapers must fear thee!In all seriousness though this character absolutely slapped in Multiplayer.
>>723797247>Behold! The Biotic God! Even the Reapers must fear thee!Also voiced by Mark Meer by the way, have fun not unhearing it
>>723797027but that's like... cool man
>>723782119Its like The Force, its just there to do whatever the writer needs it to do. It powers ships but it also powers the mass relays that catapult them to other galaxies, but it can also be harnessed by individuals to lift and throw objects/people
>>723797219I don't understand why people got so mad at the Leviathan DLC as if it's the piece of media that reveals the creators of the Reapers were retarded. This exact point (we wanted to make AI to stop AI from killing everyone, and it killed everyone) is word for word exactly what the starchild already told you. Leviathan DLC revealed nothing new except that they were squids and Bioware kinda forgot Reapers are supposed to look like the species they ate
I WANNA SEE A NAKED VOLUS!!! I NEED TO SEE THEIR FLESH!!!
>>723797247I preferred the Geth Juggernaut.
>>723796810It's actually in that conversation that he first shows dick-sucking intentions because they just reused his FemShep dialogue and made shit awkward. Get the straight conversation and you keep the same bro Kaidan from 1
>>723797327I liked the explanations for all the sci-fi shit in 1. It wasn't hard sci-fi by any means but you could tell they really thought where you could reasonably go with "reduce/increase mass on demand" tech
It's a pity ME1 ost vibe never came back fully. You can't mistake Saren's leitmotif and those synths for anything.
>>723791171What Legacy does KotOR have? Be honest now.
>>723795220Adept very easily clears for me in ME1. If you do a successive playthrough after Soldier class it gets even better since you can take another gun for your powers. So you can run a shotgun or sniper Adept which makes them even better to play as. If I remember correct you can even take another random power that isn't a gun. The Adept is just super strong in ME1.
>>723797504With the legendary edition, they made guns way more accurate to start with. That means you'll be fine as a pistol Adept cause you can actually hit shit. And then past the midgame when all enemies are floating at all times anyway, you equip high explosive rounds to shoot them all over the place
>>723793483
Your species is considered... too primitive.
>>723797704>Mass DefectMy first thought was of that other Mass Defect.
>>723797820nooooo
>>723794868Unironically yes
>>723783179Nah, I'll just play Owlsharts Expanse game instead.
>>723793748>try to use AI to make Sheploo cutout picture have lens flare>nah, can't>maybe a smile can work?>AI makes him into an Armenian merchant*hand rubbing noises*
>>723798204heehehehehe
>>723796834Because you spend the entirety of ME1 powering up while exploring the galaxy so by the end it feels like you've been on a great journey. You're repeteadly told the Normandy is a state of the art, unique, prototype stealth ship. You've obtained the prothean cipher which allows you to be the only person in the entire galaxy to understand and interact with prothean technology like you were a native. You have an expert archeologist on board which wants to find out about the Reapers as much as you do. You have the full support of both the Alliance and the Council. You're a Spectre, which puts you in a unique position in the galaxy. You now know who your enemies are after Sovereign revealed himself to you. The world is your oyster, you have a clear mission, and you have plenty of time to use the breadcrumbs left behind to forumlate a cool plan across the next game...But then the beginning of ME2 throws all of that out the window. Shepard wastes a month looking for random geth signals for no reason. The Normandy blows up. All that fanfare about it being a super duper special ship? Yeah, didn't matter. The crew is scattered. C-Sec or Spectre? Doesn't matter, Garrus is the Archangel now. Helped her or shunned her? Didn't matter, Tali likes you regardless now. Kashley are forgotten about, as is Liara until a DLC where she's forgotten about the last 50 years of her life as a nerdy archeologist and she's le badass indo broker now. The cipher is forgotten about. The Alliance are turned into a bunch of idiots. The Council forgets about >>723794327. Shepard DIES. I guess resurrection exists now in the ME universe, even if the corpse should be the equivalent of a dozen Indians being hit by trains given he crashes from space to a planet's surface at terminal velocity. And for what? For the player to be forced to join Cerberus, a faction that could very well have been responsible for their Shepard's background PTSD.
>>723797028I hope people punching her is just an internet meme because the interactions are much better if you don't act like a monkey and instead beat her at her own game. Doubly so when you join forces in 3. That's what I call kino.
>>723783735Green Liara
>>723797373>Bioware kinda forgot Reapers are supposed to look like the species they ateHonestly that always read like an after-the-fact excuse to try and make sense out of the human Reaper. No other Reaper in any of the games looks like any one species, and both Harbinger and the Derelict one we visit halfway through 2 looked just like Sovereign.
>>723798310Lotta irrational and irrationally meta conclusions here.Like this one>All that fanfare about it being a super duper special shipWhat fanfare? Stealth is hard in space. You can easily intuit that the Normandy's particular approach to stealth can last only for so long until someone picks it apart, and it never worked on Reapers or their forces.Why would it? Normandy can only conceal radiation, Tantalus is very noticeable.
>>723798670Name 35 times the Normandy got picked up by a Reaper at ranges where its stealth should have workd in 1
>>723797373They are NOT supposed to look like other species.A Reaper shell is symbolic.
>>723798670>What fanfare?Every side conversation in 1 regarding the Normandy, its origin and its engine where the ship is fellated because of its joint human-turian creation and capability for stealth incursions unique in the entire galaxy, and only reason you manage to get to Ilos to begin with. But I guess it didn't matter that much given you're just given the same ship but bigger so the player is never allowed to feel the loss of the first ship.
>>723797373People got mad because they hoped the Leviathans themselves would turn out to not have been retarded. Instead we got another attempt to defend the shitty writing that is the Catalyst.
>>723799264I see. I forgot that some people aren't cynical and will continue hoping even after the generational betrayal that was ME3
>>723797373I adored the creepy vibe of that DLC, the mystery and build-up investigation across planets to find out the squids. Honestly it should've been the main quest of an entire game not just DLC.
You know, If it was not for the reapers showing up to ass rape everyone or dirty ass Batarians existing Then the ME universe seems like a decent place to live in
>>723798734Reapers never pursue Normandy ships in full capacity or allocate more resources on it to actually beat it.The Reapers are always making de-facto concessions so that Shepard does his chaos thing as they study him.Otherwise, between eezo pattern and visual light Normandy is always visible to the Reapers by sheer feature of its drive.The Normandy only partially owes its survivability to itself.Sovereign never pursues SR-1 properly and is focused on Shepard directly.Collectors stop holding punches only a tiniest bit and win, until they are once again handicapped, and play a suspiciously tight combat round in the Suicide Mission.Oculus are counter-hacked by EDI and GUARDIAN presumably.Galaxy map escapes in 3are based on outrunning, smart courses and EDI ECCM-ing everything.Harbinger lets the SR-2 escape the station, keeps no reserves on the Bahak system asteroid (to sucker punch it), outright lets SR-2 escape on Earth.
>>723799538It still would be, in Shepard's cycle. Just live in one of the arms of the Citadel, far away from the Council chambers so you're minimally affected when Sovereign attacks. Or maybe the second you hear news of Shepard being the new human Spectre you take an extended vacation on Earth for a couple months. Then you live normally again for another couple years, then in late 2186 you get yourself a bunker in one of the ME1 uncharted worlds in the middle of absolute nowhere and chill there for a few months until Space Jesus shoots the red beam that kills all toasters and saves the world (with high EMS, of course)
>>723799538With how ubiquitous organized criminal organizations are and how many of them are basically just accepted or even used for law enforcement, coupled with a few of them even having direct connections to the Council itself, the world of Mass Effect doesn't seem all that nice. Then there's the megacorpos that either have more power than any government or are actively part of the government.ME1 in particular often felt more like a horror show than sci-fi adventure.
>>723799703>Sovereign never pursues SR-1 properly What does that mean?>CollectorsI asked for ME1Anyway I don't give a fuck, I just wanted to laugh at you for making a statement as stupid as "it never worked on Reapers or their forces" when there is exactly ONE Reaper running around in ME1 and he's pretending to be a normal ship
>>723799538>total galactic or bigger scale slavery by the Leviathans
>>723799914Galactic scale slavery doesn't even mean anything. It's not like all other species had to work in the fucking mines, it just means you pay taxes to the squids
>>723794615That part near the end where you control Joker while bugs assault the ship is one of the dumbest written segments I've ever seen in anything. It genuinely blows my mind people took the story seriously after that.
>>723800137>near the endJust fyi that's like halfway through unless you're optimizing your sidequests so you only have the Legion recruitment left, to make sure your crew doesn't die in the Collector base
The Citadel DLC was dogshit, EXCEPT for the party and final goodbye, which felt like it was written by a different person. The rest is literal Reddit.
>>723800301Um but it's fun and it should be fun because ME3 was so depressing and I wanted to say goodbye to my friends
>>723800301It's the opposite actually, the party is the meme part. The "narrative" part with Shepard in civilian clothes running around the Citadel underbelly, infiltrating a casino, ravaging the archives with his whole crew and fighting his way through the Normandy culminating in a boss fight wholly dependent on your class choice was unfiltered lvdo
>>723800137>"Shepard you're gonna have to leave the ship with all 12 squadmates cramped in the shuttle like a clown van for reasons beyond your comprehension, that way you can choose your team for the next mission on the way">"EDI there's no "next mission", my quest log's cleared, I thought this was an RPG so I did every sidequest before advancing the main quest">"...Shepard just follow the fucking script it's hard enough making sense of it as it is"
>>723799898>What does that mean?Exactly that.Sovereign does not care about SR-1. He only focuses on Shepard and is consumed by a show of "rage". He is gauging. It never notifies the Geth, it never makes them upgrade visual sensors - a most logical request to make.SR-1 on the other hand avoids unwinnable scenarios as it can't win.SR-1 stealth system operates by 2 things, heat concealment and outer shell stealth.It cannot conceal visual range (especially in FTL) - light is everywhere and Normandy is always in contact with it, Reapers can just look faster - they are capable of superluminal time asynchronous communication on galactic distances, and of matter control at a distance.It cannot conceal drive signature - when Tantalus is active it makes a space-time distortion, - Reapers and any mass relay have precision mass sensors (ones in Relays are substandard for mortals by design) by nature and have mind control sensors.
>>723800553>Reapers have matter controlNone of this was in 1. You're graspingAlso like I said I don't give a fuck. Seeya
>>723800643>Citadel constructed out of unknown material>Leviathans Orbs>hologram hijiack scene>indoctrination tech>mass relay quantum lockingI do not understand the setting foundations or what eezo can do: the post.
>>723769741and it still sucks. too bad
>>723796154Maybe you don't? Maybe you just delay the Reapers for a few thousand years like in cosmic horror stories to buy the universe some time to prepare for their arrival. Maybe you can understand and even reason with them like in Science Fiction like Star Trek. There are plenty of ways it could have gone so saying you don't like it because you cannot imagine how it could have ended in another way is a you problem. Read some Cthulhu or watch some Trek, ME1 had a lot in common with those
>>723798003a classic
>>723796420>Because there were significant meberberries in 2Practically no choice from 1 matters in 2
>>723803967I actually like how 1's choices matter in 2. I obviously get why people were really annoyed that 2 isn't much of a STORY that bases itself on ramifications of things you did in 1, but it's not like it doesn't do anything.I find that 2 is a game that constantly reminds you "Hey you actually made that choice, remember?" and 3 is a game that says "Yeah, we know you made the choice but... here's why that didn't end up mattering!"In 2 the illusion is still there. When you walk around on the Citadel a lot of background dialogue and branches of conversations are changed if you killed the Council, always confronting the player with the fact that you appear to be a pro humanist. The conversation scene with Anderson is satisfying enough since it shows the difference between him and Udina being in charge, and neatly folds back into a common ground that still retains the illusion that they're resuming the narrative with the choices affecting things. Ditto with meeting the Council there, if they didn't die.3 has an issue with "replacement characters". They were so scared of the player missing out on content, that they made every scene with an alt-character who has almost the same camera cuts and guise of dialogue, but it's just worded differently, and always amounts to a severe lack of consequence, except Maelon's Data, of all things.What frustrates the most to me is that there are basically only 5 choices in the whole trilogy that are "central", because no matter which things you do or don't, they're the 5 choices every player WILL encounter.>Ash or Kaidan>The Rachni Queen>The Council's fate>The Human Councilor>The Collector BaseYou can't NOT play to ME3 and miss any of those huge decisions... and they're the ones that do LEAST amount of repurcussions in it.
>>723797170>ME1 is actually good>ME3 has the best combat>ME2 is worse at everything than either of those1 and 2 were based.3 is missing something.Like they're both close to 10/10s for different reasons. But 3 is like a 6 to me. Just everything about it feels off somehow.
>>723787038This ad arguably feels like it should be for ME3 more than ME1
>>723804924Just say you played 2 when you were 12
So what role do you guys think Debra Wilson will be playing in the next ME? Asari LI?
>>723769741Yeah, but Miranda wasn't added until Ass Effect 2, when I became aware
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>>723807229Even worse, you'd think you'd have better taste by then
we have to go back brosI unironically listen to this and other mass effect "atmospheric" soundtracks almost daily lolhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_JJo7D5YY3s&list=RD_JJo7D5YY3s&start_radio=1&t=9s
>>723804707>2 is a game that constantly reminds you "Hey you actually made that choice, remember?" and 3 is a game that says "Yeah, we know you made the choice but here's why that didn't end up mattering!"Fucking what. Where's my human Council? Why does the rescued Council forget their speech at the end of ME1? Why is Cerberus now a 20yo company founded by a glownigger instead of the 6 months old Alliance rogue black ops group it was stated to be? Why can't I bring up Akuze in the entire game? Why does the decision regarding Garrus' future with C-Sec/Spectres not matter because he's turned into discount Batman? Why are 90% of choices in ME1 relegated to BACKGROUND RADIO MESSAGES? Why is Horizon forced into making Shepard out to be a drooling moron just so the Virmire Survivor can leave the game after 30 seconds of screentime when they were meant to be a squadmate across the trilogy?You know what game actually tried to confront choices from the past instead of running away from them and hoping players would eat it up like straight up not bothering to create a new council if you killed the old one or replacing Garrus' two choices with a new third one that utterly ignores the player's involvement in the last game? Because it sure wasn't 2. Reminder 3 has a sidequest that checks for:>UNC: Asari Writings>Feros: Data Recovery>Citadel: Rita's Sister>purchasing the Elkoss Combine armory license>keeping Conrad Verner alive through the past 2 gamesWhere was that shit in the second game?>3 has an issue with "replacement characters"Literally only Padok Wiks. Garrus isn't replaced. Jack isn't replaced. Samara isn't replaced. Kasumi isn't replaced. Thane isn't replaced. Jacob isn't replaced. Miranda isn't replaced. The Geth VI greatly affects the mission as it makes peace impossible due to the lack of human connection formed by Legion. Why wouldn't Aralakh Company have a leader regardless? And I thought ME2 was the one to add not!Wrex in Wreav?
>>723799452>Honestly it should've been the main quest of an entire game not just DLC.You're kinda right. Feels too important for it to just be a DLC that stops existing once you complete all the missions.
