>replaying a game>get to that part
Looks interesting what game is that?
>>723791315fire emblem sacred stones
>>723791281that's the best desert map in the entire series
Any good hacks come out recently?I can't be fucked doing 5x in the relay, someone download the save
>>723791281what do these squares mean
>>723792327the pictured items spawn somewhere in these areas, randomised.
>>723792327Areas where you have a chance to find the given items as treasure if you move onto them (thieves have a 100% chance to find the item)
>>723792327Depending on the unit's LUCK stat, they have a chance of finding an item buried in the sand when they end a turn
>>723792263I've got it Ephraim training arc begin
>>723792908Ephraim got level from killing mercenary
>>723793181>AI suicides into orson instead of attacking a cavalier
>>723793513I always lose an item or two because I have to throw something away here but this time I won't forget to have an empty inventory slot
>>723792263Some guy released a very tweaked FE7 romhack that turns Lyn mode into an actual worthwhile set of chapters, buffs enemies across the board, and makes the Lords not shit with earlier promos.
>>723791281You should have 2 thieves by that point. You could potentially have 4. I dont remember if assassin's get the auto find bonus.
>>723791281I'm glad obtuse shit like this is gone.
>>723791281How are you supposed to find all those without a guide?
>>723793745Killing the shaman over the wall.
>>723791281Honestly after having played Thracia 776 blind, the GBA games seem pretty fair in comparison.
>>723794015You aren't. If you have a unit in that space you have a luck% chance of finding it. Its supposed to be a surprise. If you have a thief or rogue they have 100% chance if finding the item. You can recruit a rogue in the previous chapter.
>>723794015talk to your many like-minded friends that play the same games as youhaha...
>>723794136In addition. This is a route map with a ton of enemies. You kinda have to be all over the map as a lot of them dont move. The only items that are in obscure places are the body ring, silence staff, silver card, and eclipse.
>>723794038Using the steel lance wherever I can to save uses of the Reginleif
>>723794448Even on hard mode I just solo this map with Ephraim. Im never going to use Kyle or Forde and Orson for obvious reasons.
>>723794548Yeah I only ever train the Christmas cavaliers when I'm going Erika route
>>723794636Kyle does turn out really good if you give him the Ephraim treatment this chapter, though. Last time we did so, he managed to more than make up for a griefed Seth.
>>723794636Emptied the inventory of the suspicious man
is this whole thread...... FOR ANTS?
>>723794859There's nothing suspicious about Orson, you can trust him with your Killer Lance
>>723794959>not playing gba games at 1x sizeOldbro...
I have a confession everyone... I... I used save states on chapter 2...>sacred stones*
>>723794859Close to the end of the chapter. Ephraim has been getting good levels but didn't want to spam level up screenshots.
>>723795118These last two boys should fall to the Reginleif then it's just the boss
>>723794015In FE6 or FE7, there's a house that tells you there's hidden treasure by the drones and to have your units search in the sand. It's been a long time since I've read any house dialogue, but I assume this game has a very similar conversation
>>723794015>>723795470>“According to this ancient document… …There was a huge battle here long, long ago. Every day, I’m out here digging up ancient weapons and artifacts out of the sand. There are still more to be found, of that you can be sure. It’s even said a long-dead sage left a copy of Metis’s Tome out here… Oh! But I won’t give that to anyone if I find it. Not a chance!”
>>723795454There you go back to scrimblo grinding and away from Ephraim intermission Save: https://files.catbox.moe/cbiagc.savROM: https://files.catbox.moe/kvqbdn.GBA
>>723794069>Thracia 776 blind100% blind? That's incredible. What were some of your worst blunders? Have you played it with all the knowledge since?
Post Lute taking a fat creampie
>>723796273Lute should be raped.
>>723796786by me
>>723796273https://files.catbox.moe/5u34d8.png
>>723797021she needs a more emotionless face, as if she isn't really enjoying it. not like she hates it or is being raped but more like she's only doing it because she finds it interesting, some kind of neutral face.
>>723797009Gheb is that you?
Cutesythea
>>723791281one of the few good maps in sacred stones
>>723791281>Hidden items just there to waste your time searching for themThe only good GBA desert map is FE6's Arcadia.
Did Gheb really fuck Tana in jail?
>>723798608that map also has hidden items you tard
>>723798658The difference is that the time limit for the Legendary weapon means that seaching for the hidden item isn't a waste of time, but a race against time.
>>723798732you can just reset the game, load mid-chapter save, then open a unit status screen to get desert items every time, it's not that big a deal in any of the games
>>723791281I hated when I left Rennac near the body ring because I completely forgot about him and then he was chased by enemy reinforcements and then raped from 2 sides
>>723798891>You can just cheatOr you could just not have a pointless time wasting gimmick in your map.
>>723798643No but Ephraim did
>>723799038Or just pick and choose what items you want. The only ones that are even worth it are the silver card, boots, body ring and warp. Arguably.
>>723798608yeah...desert + fog of war + hordes of wyverns + level 1 shaman + Cecilia on a horse s definitely funThank god Melady is there
>>723799182I prefer her huge ass hair
>>723798643Yes but she asked for it and then only pretended to be disgusted by him once Ephraim's party arrived out of shame
>>723798643He didn't fuck her, he raped her
>>723798643No but I did, and she consented beforehand
>>723799147>Just pick and choose what you wantSo the snow map in Rev is fine, then? I want no bitching about it if this shit gets defended
Marriage with Marianne!
>>723799038desert item trick is not cheating
>>723799182Short hair azura is cute because azura is cute.
>>723798926No post one with Celica
>>723799284Yes
>>723798926Eirika would never do this
>>723798926I remember when Eirika did this
>>723791281Probably the easiest desert map in FE history.
Why is tana even popular? All of her supports without fail are boring and paint her as fussy and needy
>>723799593Because she's sexy, duh
>>723799239This but unironically>Desert serves both as a way to avoid dragons and as a movement limiter, encouraging making a proper movement plan>Fog means that you can't overextend, rewarding players who use their many scouting tools effectively to avoid the dragons and to put the right unit in range to face the most mobile enemies (wyverns and mages)>Wyverns create a good back and forth, where you want to tank them then jump them>Sophia is the escort mission, encouraging good formation building>Cecilia can both use valuable staves and blast some wyverns with Aircalibur for good damage, and she can get her full mobility if you realize that the north is full of plains (aka analyze the map properly)
>>723798608FE6's Arcadia is a contender for worst map in the series>Desert>Fog>Wyverns that are not only a threat, but we'll outside of your vision range>Unless you bring a thief and a torch, but they still have reduced movement anyway>Merlinus can hardly move, so I hope you anticipated the Dragon units and brought any legendary weapons you already have (hope someone has S rank!)>btw here's a shitty level 1 Mage, she has to walk to the end of the map so you can get a Guiding Ring, and if she dies you lose out on the legendary weapon (and true ending)>also there's a time limit to getting the legendary weapon anyway>and if you DID want to take your time? Here's two Berserker bosses, hope you don't get crit from their +30 crit>Did I forget to mention the insta join Horse unit that is severely impeded from the desert tiles?Scientifically synthesized to be as obnoxious as possible with as much artificial difficulty bullshit as they could throw in.
>>723799593>All of her supports without fail are boringher B support with Ephraim is funand she is the one who consoles him after Lyon's molestation
>>723791281Except it's the best desert map in the entire series.
>>723799752pretty low bar tho
>>723799593Most people find fussy and needy endearing.
I like Arcadia.
>>723799593>paint her as fussy and needyAnd that's fucking hot
>>723799593She's a cutie, and she gets bonus points for appearing in story scenes.
>>723799958What, you don't like finding free stuff or something?
Ivy
>>723799593because her portrait in the nintendo magazine was cute and gave me a boner as a wee boy. look at that absolute flower of a lady. ephraim is so gay for choosing his sister
>>723800328sucks.
>>723800157not when it means getting out my phone and searching up a map. Half the time I dont bother, except in blazing blade for the ocean seal. I also tend to not get the silver card because its too op
>>723800449my cock
>>723799593For casualfags she becomes better than Vanessa through training and her wyvern knight is a very sexy blue.
>>723800376He chose her in my game.
>>723800550fuck...
>>723800468You'll find most of those things by random chance.The only ones you need a guide to find are the ones that are hugging the edges of the map, which is admittedly a bitch-ass design choice.
>>723800376>ephraim is so gay for choosing his sisternot everyone's Ephraim is so gay
>>723800550Is Alm ok with this???
>>723800737Ephraim/Tana and Erika/Seth is the most royally appropriate ending.
>>723800550Daaaaamn!
>>723799357>Do a glitch to bypass explictly programmed game mechanicsIt's cheating
>>723800873Ephraim x TanaSeth x EirikaFranz x AmeliaColm x NeimiI like how it’s really easy to know who to ship with whom in this game. Modern games either don't have paired endings at all or everyone is a slut like Natasha with 10+ romance options
>>723792327>what do these squares mean>>723792408this plus desert tiles lower most characters movement and you need to move a bunch of units across the center of the map top to bottom or bottom to top just to protect 3 units that spawn in. There is also 2 bosses on the map top left corner and bottom right. The whole map in a hat wearing a hat. I'm surprised it didn't have a max turns restriction on top of it.
>>723801190>Natasha>slutNatasha is made for marriage to Joshua and friendship with Knoll.
>>723793839name/link?
>>723801423>I want to rebuild my homeland!>you know what, screw that, I am just going to be a queen or somethingYeah, not a slut in the slightest
>>723800873>eirika marrying a commoner
>>723791281I actually love this chapter, one of my favorites really
>>723801521>commoner>Sethreally now
>>723800550I want to engage
>>723801521There's a difference between a commoner and a knight.Knights are landed, which makes them a form of gentry.
>>723800660NATASHA NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
>>723799725>Not using the Torch staff>Not using Canto to torch and retreat with your fliers>Fighting the landmine dragons at all>Keeping your escort exposed to attacks>Spending over 25 turns on a map>Getting ambushed by low mov innacurate axe niggers appearing in the bottom left of the map (destination is top right)>Not moving Cecilia north where she has full mov on the plains tilesMassive skill issue. The map is too good for you.
>>723801515Correct!She can do the most from a position of actual power, rather than as a no-name nun. It's not as though Joshua could refuse his wife, after all.
>people blame awakening for bringing dating sim shipfags into the franchisethread related
>>723800550why is she like this?
>>723801410>I'm surprised it didn't have a max turns restriction on top of it.It should have. You might have to make interesting decisions then, but this is a fire emblem game, any chance for interesting decisions and consequences disappears the moment you start a new game.A game series wasted on its fans.
>>723802124How is it shipfagging to read the story and dialogue of the game in order to infer the intended pairings of characters by the developers/writers?
>>723791281Why are people this autistic on this board? The OP image does not dictate you can only talk about this one game or the genre.
>>723802124Really that was Jugdral.
>>723802762Anything tangentially related to Fire Emblem exclusively becomes about Fire Emblem, it is the nature of the fans, they do not play games.
>>723791281>Yeah I killed your mom Joshua, but it was part of the contract, no hard feelings right?>"No, I understand. But listen, I have to kill you now, it's part of my contract, no hard feelings right?">You little...
>>723802124Oh, no, why do you care about characters and their relationships!If I wanted to treat my units as simple pieces on board I would just play chess
>>723791281That's unironically one of the best parts in Sacred Stones though?>>723792327They mean you should bring a thief instead of relying on literal luck stat RNG after ending your turn on those spaces to grab that shit that's in them.
>>723802762You seem new to these stealth generals. That makes you the perfect candidate to continue playing the next chapter of our fire emblem ironman relay. PM me if you need the ruleset. >>723795802
>>723800660on that note I do like the challenge of Binding Blades where to get all the stuff while doing it in 25 turns to get the gaiden chapter. Also the fact that two gay bandits spawn and try to rape you from behind makes it more fun. Also also binding blade has a good thief count with cath being recruited the chapter before allowing multiple thiefs to split up and make it not rely on luck
>>723799038RNG manipulation if it doesn't involve 3rd party tools
>>723802629why does Tana have Larum's head?
>>723791281>a bunch of random bullshit thats gonna rot in my convoy until the final chapter because im a shameless hoarderBoots go on ephraim
>>723802629>shipfagging>pairingsthe only pairing thats acceptable is character x (Me)
>least-significant Magvel royal>most-shilled, outside of the LordsTana was added last-minute to Sacred Stones, so I can only assume that Maeda was the one who swapped her in for Amelia, since he's now the Heroes director and they keep making yearly Tana units.
>>723803114No, boots go on General Amelia so she can zoom even faster.
>>723803114>silver card>boots>tome if you're an estfag
>>723803185>least significant>appears in the very first chapter of the game and her dad gives you a fuck load of money like 7 chapters later because tana likes (you)>appears in lots of story segments to talk to your lord
>>723803185Amelia on a pegasus would be meh so it was a nice change
>>723802762this is an eff ee thread lil bro
>>723801487https://youtube.com/watch?v=uaVsDEgaIUUHe details all the changes made, so whether it's worth your time or just another e-celeb's attempt at hawking their own shitty rebalance patch is up to you. I have it on my backlog just because I want to try a Lyn mode that doesn't suck and an Eliwood that can use lances at base.
>>723803185>gheb works for FEH
>>723803185Official artwork tana has some big booba. Im glad this series knows how to treat its girls, unlike most western franchises that make them ugly on purpose (sony movie slop)
>>723802939I've been on this website since 2005. And I will always point out stupidity.
>>723804491>jeans
>>723804491>jeansworst girl
>>723804343cutenice to see some Tana love
Tana isn't even the most attractive Pegasus Knight
>>723804491
TANa
>>723804784of course notthat's because she is the sexiest and cutest wyvern knight
I didn't know FEfags were so anti-jeans
>Eirika and Forde have reached Support level C!
Zeek
>>723805193>Fordeimagine not benching that fag
>>723804963She is wearing full body tights in the official artwork and then plegian dress in awakening
>>723805239
>>723805431FE artists clearly have better taste than grok
>>723791281get FUCKED cavalier fags
>>723791281
>>723805693Big Flier wins again.
>>723805693it is not even trueThey still can clear the bottom half of the map
>all these tanakeks>not a single lady lel postedGo back to danbooru and don't come back until you have PICTURES. Pictures of l'rachel.
>>723805962Larachel is literally just a backup waifu that is there in case you lose your TanaI still love her and her team rocket / Doronjo energy though
>>723804491Huh, guess the tech still needs work
>>723791281For me it's all the gaiden chapters. There is just no way I'm gonna rush a map without a turn limit, and that makes the chapter super boring.
>>723793513maybe he figured Orson would go easy on him due to certain circumstances.
FE desert maps are overhated and most of them are actually good.
So are the old FE games actually good? I can't stand all the waifu bullshit in the newer games and just want to fucking kill armies with my armies and get cool gear.What's the gold staple of the old FE games I should try
>>723807636Sacred Stones and you can get a taste for it by downloading the ROM and playing the relay here >>723795802
>>723807636there is no gear beside weapons and staves
>>723791281>>replaying a gameI'm not poor. I've never done that after I got a job.There is 6 billion games to play. I ain't wasting my time replaying old shit for toddlers.
>>723807810>there is no gear beside weapons and stavesThe OP pic shows a bunch of gear items?
>>723807870all single use stat boosters besides the silver card
>>723807960ah
>>723807810There are FE games that have equip items, but they're in the minority, with one being a remake of another. It looks like the system is returning in FW as well.
>>723807636what do you consider waifu bullshit? because engage only has 1 marriage option (merrin) so technically it has less shipping than the gba and tellius games
>>723808570>what do you consider waifu bullshit?If the game focuses on dating elements and not battles
I cried when Ismaire died.
>>723808670There is no fire emblem game without battles and dating elements are non-existant anyways. You cant take characters on dates outside of like 3h maybe. You fell for propaganda.
>>723808871>facerubbing your little sister in your treehouse isn't dating elements>having fortune tellers read about your love life with big sister isn't dating elements
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>>723808871literally every fucking FE game I've played is waifu dating bullshit. Starting with the marth/lucina game on 3DS (forget the names)I hate that shit I just want to play a tactical RPG with gear collecting and armies not fag around with waifu shit
New games are harder and more complex than le old games despite having waifu dating shit btw
>>723809282you are being painfully retarded. there is no dates or match 3 or VN dialogue elements in the ds games that make it into a dating sim. if you dont want a wife then you can be a celibate and never open the support menu a single time. BOOM, all tactics gameplay and no character aspects, good enough for you whiny baby?>>723805962
>muh gearIs this some Monster Hunter/Reddit Souls mental illness where you need random weapon and armor drops from enemies for repeated dopamine hits to your fried brain?
>>723803724>4k subs>e-celebDamn, the standard's dropping, I gotta get on the e-celeb bandwagon
>>723809583I doesn't matter if half your cast is cringe
>>723809924If you don't know shit keep your mouth shut lil bro
>>723807636The rope and fuck off we are full.
>>7238095833H is pretend complexity and not hard so don't speak too generally, might give someone who has only played it a wrong idea
>>723810062Thats a second channel he made just for FE stuff
>>723807146maybe if you suffer from brain damage
>>723803342>>least significantShe's the only one that can die, bro. And unless you do supports, she's also the only one that doesn't speak anymore after you recruit her (which is why she can die).
Why is dondon complaining about passport bros on reddit instead of finishing his FE10 ltc?
>>723810585Why are you stalking his reddit?
>>723810585why are you talking about ecelebs you retarded faggot?
fe peaked on the NES
>>723810787Funnyjiunk lookin' ass filename.
>>723810438lrachel innes and joshua can all die
>>723810585I always get that guy and donlot confused
>>723810438>the only one that doesn't speak anymoreShe has a scene with Ephraim in Last Hope (chapter 19)
I always bench tana because she gets MOGed by vanessa
Tana culo
>>723805962lel
>>723810895>lrachel innesdon't they just retreat?
>>723811040not this discussion again
>>723810895>he doesn't remember that Sacred Stones was the start of the "I can't fall here" trendLike 1/4th of the cast is immortal. Partly because there's only like 20 units.
>>723808570World's strongest lesbian.
>>723810895>>723811186Oh right, and I forgot to add:"Except Tana, lmao."
I never make Wyvern Knights because they're ugly and gay
>>723811173>Tana's fat ass is worth 3 con
>>723809062>FatesFates is shit. This isn't a big revelation.
>>723811173Tana joins in the mid game underleveled, any vanessa that's been leveled will have better stats than her
tana gets mogged by FAG, don't use her. pic related for proof
Vanessa is an uggo
>>723811295you still have to make a good post unlike your shit taste.
>>723809282Could you at least come up with a lie that anyone who's played the game for 5 minutes wouldn't know is a lie?
>>723803724>>723810062Smith's Legacy mods are all pretty good and he sticks to games that he played in his childhood and really knows about. Even if I don't agree with 100% pf the changes, most of them have a good reason and keep the original feel of the games.
>>723811408Found the Fatesfag.
>>723805962all i have are pictures of lady
>refuses to level strength>againI still use him because he has a cool hat
>>723811276It is okEphraim can handle it
>>723795802Picking this upI haven't been following this, somehow the axe dudes aren't here.
>>723811386rude
>Taniggers and merrincels catching L'sLove to see it
>>723810328>3H not hardFace it, the real reason no one wants to do a 3H ironman is because of how hard it would body people.
>>723811708the bench can't though
>>723809583Only true of some of them3H and Echoes are just featurebloated in ways that make them seem more complex than they areEngage and Conquest are unironically good and better than most old FEs though
>>723811769Torch + torch staff reveals most of the map
3H bad
>>723811816I loved Vanessa and Lute's worldbuilding supports. Same with Natasha and Knoll.
>>723810328>3H is pretend complexity and not hardI've seen people here fumble fucking Sacred Stones runs.If relays have shown anything, it's that you compfag LTC idiots don't play without savestates.3H isn't hard, but if SS is kicking your asses, a 3H run will end after like 8 chapters.
>>723811302>tana joins underlevedbased she gets more EXP on kills then which triggers my numbers go up tism
>>723811895>Fates>EngageBoth shit. Your taste is horrible. Only pigs like you eat where they shit.
>>723811958
stupid bitches
>>723811683Pokemon adventures thread?
>>723811975>worldbuilding supportsthe thing how pegasi fly by kicking air with their legs and then using their wings for gliding?it was pretty nice bit of trivia
you are too poor to emulate 3H you idiots
I only deploy men because girls have cooties
>>723811996Pretty sure we beat 3H a few months back
I had a lot of fun with Engage but the way people put it on a pedestal makes me want to bully the fuck out of it. It's just typical FE with sentai powerups, multiple health bars, and a shitty hub prep phase. It's not hard and it's not even that complex really.
>>723811769Turns out eirika can't solo chapter 2 while unequiping the rest of the party, rip ross and garca
>>723811996I am like 77% sure we would have an easier time with three houses than FE7
>>723812083Seth should probably be heading to the middle but he got busy with the cavaliers. Also that priest is being really annoying.
>>723812189>It's just typical FE with sentai powerups, multiple health bars, and a shitty hub prep phase.The fun part is when Fatesfags say that "Engage is going back to FE's roots." As if FE always had this shit.
>>723811859relays already take multiple hours per chapter. imagine someone post about all their activities for the month
>>723809062>no gameplay benefitsMay as well not exist tbqh
3H was the game that started the multiple health bars you retard
>>723812128That would be nice. I love Sird.
>>723812272Very nice
>>723812347>>723812347S-support bonuses are strictly better than A support bonuses aren't they? also you have the whole gen 2 thing in fates and awakening and parent's growths affect child growths
>save state 1 loaded
>>723812131Yes, exactly. You always have to really scrape to find this kind of dialogue in these games, but it's satisfying to find.
>>723811996Its bold that you assume there are gameplayfags and ltcfags playing the relays. They just like to talk shit to eachother, but its waifuGODS that actually play the relays as evidenced by the rampant scrimbloing and long playtimes.
inb4 seth ACKs to the halberd fighter
>>723812375No one calls 3H complex. In fact you're calling it "fake complexity" in this very thread. Which I'd agree with, if you didn't glaze Engage in the very next breath.
ryan!
>>723805193>no spatsNon-canon
>>723812437Can't let these guys get a jump on me
>>723812545scrimblo gooners would be overcome with joy.>finally a reason to train this shitty training project, we need somebody to replace seth after all
>>723811895Most, if not all of you Conquest glazers get destroyed the second you play a Fire Emblem that isn’t Conquest or Engage.
>>723812301Classic, return to form. Cope and seethe, multiple posts of it if you would be so generous.>>723812189Engage is a fun game with lots of player expression and turns can be wildly different depending on the move order because of how centralizing the rings and inherits are to the gameplay. I would have to take breaks after chapters because of how long the moment to moment gameplay takes which I can't say about any other FE.
>>723812361E-empress??
>aislopand I thought these threads couldn't get any worse
>>723811186>Sacred Stones was the start of the "I can't fall here" trendActually that's FE2, with Camus ironically
>>723812838>Classic, return to form.Which FE let's me turn my character's hair peach and then teleport across the map to do a supermove? Was it Mystery or Path of Radiance?
>>723812838>Engage good because turns differentLiterally no one plays the games the same except for you 'gameplay' niggers who play this shit exactly the same every time.
>>723812361I often forget that Engage had a dancer, since it didn't look like this.
>>723811958This reminds me of the retard who argued that you couldn't just torch the entire map like this, insisting that you have to guidefag to beat it. That thread sure was something.
>>723812935Sure, but I think there's a difference between like one guy having it, and a quarter of the cast having it.We still see it today in Fates and Engage, since 1/4th of the cast are royals, just like SS.
>>7238118593H is braindead easy, it's just tedious because of >>723812345
>>723812838>I would have to take breaks after chapters because of how long the moment to moment gameplay takes which I can't say about any other FE.Play Thracia 776
>>723812634Map is mostly done, except Vanessa is out of healing, so I should hurry up.
>>723813019fire emblem should have more male dancers. I should have been able to reclass inigo into dancer
What is it about the SUPERIORITY and CREATIVITY of engage that sends "fire emblem fans" into a 2 year long melty welty?
>>723813209>Vanessa is out of healing,rip
>>723812815umm actually conKINGS beat fire emblem 6 blind on the first ironman relay
>>723813209
>>723813228kys faggot
>>723812459I was referring to the two examples you provided (facerubbing and fortune telling)
>>723813160I find it funny that they introduced it with Camus of all people, considering that he's supposed to be the honourable enemy that you have no choice to kill trope. That aside, FE7 did it before FE8 too, with every character in Lyn mode retreating instead of dying, as well as several characters in Eliwood/Hector mode also just not dying when their HP reaches 0 both on your side and on the enemy side.
>>723813325Shut the fuck up
>>723813228I should be able to reclass any female unit into a dancer, instead. Just give me a singular dancer promotion item per playthrough.
>>723812940Without the hair color change, most games with a Warp staff and RNG rigging kek
>>723813402
>>723813228very true
>>7238134423houses lets you practically reclass anyone into dancer
>>723812940>he doesnt know about super saiyan marth>he doesnt know about warp spamming in fe1RETVRNTOFVRM
>>723813482oh shit, so he can actually level up something else than just hp
>>723813482this guy is playing with a buffed growths rom
>>723791281>just ended a SS ironman>thread pops outI swear that some of you are in my walls, which FE is a decent game for ironman? SS was a nice place to start.
>>723813482Franzgawds.......
>>723811218*bisexual
>>723813482Okay cool the boss is dead, posting save soon
>>723813536Yuri is probably the best choice though because canto and more mov on a dancer is really nice
>>723812940When they say “return to form” they really just want the game to be like Conquest. They don’t like or play for that manner another Fire Emblem.
>>723813318>kills the true ending>kills rutgodt-thanks conkings....
>>723810862Cute kurt.
>>723813601FE3 is also pretty good for it and has enough QoL so that it doesn't feel jank to play. Alternatively, any of the Fates games (BR for easy, CQ and Rev for hard), FE6, Shadow Dragon or FE1 if you have a high jank tolerance
>>723813601the rope
>>723813601>not posting a full compendium of your deaths and ebin moments throughout the gameSpill the beans anon
>>723813601Path of Radiance is very forgiving because of BEXP. On Hard, it's still so easy the only units I lost were Mist and Rhys (overextended them because I was not paying attention to do everyone else stomping enemies so efficiently).FE7 is pretty easy, provided you don't try to use every Scrimblo and actually let Marcus get some combats in.Shadow Dragon gives you a bunch of replacement units if you lose units.Binding Blade has such a fuckhuge cast because they expect you to lose some shitters along the way.
>>723813536I know, and while I think it was too overpowered, I still think it's a neat idea.Definitely preferable to the gayboy you find in the ruins in Engage. Should have just let Seforia give you a "dancer bangle" to promote one unit, with the default being Timerra.
>>723813917I would have killed myself if I were forced to use Timerra to be optimal. I hated black female Raphael more than you can possibly imagine.
>>723813917>every dancer needs to be a waifuwheres your variety
hopefully you will kill yourselves when DEI waeves releases you racist.
>>723813853>>723813784Gotcha i'm between CQ and PoR, but i'm leaning to CQ because i still want to do a playthrough of PoR on the JP hard difficulty and no way in hell i'm doing that in ironman>>723813835Give me a bit since i didn't catalogue anything because i simply did it on a whim, there were plenty of embarrassing deaths and mistakes. I felt stupid by losing so many units on SS, fuck the ghost ship.
>>723814108>wheres your varietyConsidering how nobody gives a fuck about Seadall?My variety is in my girls-only Engage roster. We got Firenese, Brodians, Elusians, and dragons!
>>723813719Thats not true. Conquestchads and engageshinryus loved fire emblem shadows
>>723814174This, but unironically.
>>723813626I don't think catbox is working for mehttps://files.catbox.moe/ckq81y.savHere's mediafire insteadhttps://www.mediafire.com/file/n5njy4bz4dyj7ys/kvqbdn.sav/And the romhttps://files.catbox.moe/kvqbdn.GBA
>>723814220No wonder it's dead. Conquest and Engage fans don't even play their own games!
>2025>I am forgotten
>>723814216Out of curiosity, did you count merrin and rosado as girls for your run?
>>723814330The Lalum Mafia is trying to erase him from history
>>723814330Have we EVER done this guy's route?
>>723814215Best of luck, anon!
Merrin is a woman you retarded braindamaged LGBT freak.
PFFFFFTAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHHAHAHA>PSSSSSHHHHHKKKKKKKKEEKEKEKBAHAHAHAHAHAAAAAAAAAAAAA
>>723814330I never once used this faggotLarum is too sexy
>>723814523Leda's pov seconds before she rapes him btw
>>723814482bartre is a B-route exclusive. idk if the ironmans ever went b route
>>723814398I simply did not use Merrin or Rosado, lmao.
>>723814760>cucked by wolt/lance/alen/marcus A support
>>723814330They made this dude busted as shit in Heroes earlier this year.But he has zero fans, so you never had to see him. I've seen him ONCE ever in the wild.
>>723814760>old FE had good writ...
>>723814760not gonna lie, it is actually quite funny>>723814858*Cecilia
>>723812375Just like Awakening created pair-up but Fates actually made it good and gave it strategic attributes in the broader game design, Engage did the same for 3H's multiple health bar system.
EGG IS LATE TO HIS STREAMHES STALLING
>>723815012that prepromote that died on her join chapter?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hY4yqVbax5w
>>723815140>not dumping all the bexp into rolf
>>723815140How to fix BEXP: every map has a recommended level associated with it (not a hard level cap btw) and you're not allowed to use BEXP on units at the same level or higher than the map's level.
>>723815074you should've protected her better
>>723815298here is a better advice shut your retarded mouth
>>723813229it was good at everything
>>723814330>Tells every one of his generals that he's their Prince, outright forcing them to acknowledge it>Except for Cecilia, to whom he keeps his identity a secret through interrogationWhat the fuck was his problem?
>>723814330I like his theme better than Larum'shttps://youtu.be/YBMJgexgsPAtoo bad I don't keep support animations
>>723815389not at anti-aliasing, that's for sure
>>723814674This. If anyone does the B-route, it's for Bartre and not Elfin. Only homos would take him over the hot dancer with exposed tummy.
>>723815640>Only homos would take him over the hot dancer with exposed tummy.See? When given the choice, people want sexy female dancers!
>>723815140>not making your favorite character the strongest it can beIt's way easier in PoR thanks to BEXP compared to most FE games, in RD you can get fucked if the character is utterly devastated by availability issues that plague some.It's kind of sad and funny to think that someone really liked Tormod, Vika or Muarim only to get cucked by their shitty availability.
>>723815735If I wanted a half naked lady, I'd take off my shirt and find a mirror. Men have dicks and I want dicks
your waifu is shit larum shitter
>>723815863This.
>>723815863>If I wanted a half naked lady, I'd take off my shirt and find a mirror.Do it and post results
>cheats in engage ironman>cheats in the conquest ophelia lunatic solo>cheats in game 1 of ironman marathonmangsbros?
>>723815863Except you faggots never put your money where your mouth is. Otherwise I'd be seen a plethora of Seadall art.
>>723815992He also cheated in the FE7 ironman
>>723816087MENNot TWINKS
>>723815992>>723815992How did he cheat? It's funny to hear how retards cheat and their reasoning for cheating i nthe first place.
>>723816185>posts a mag twinkfujo SISTER...
>>723816087We do things other than masturbate to underage anime characters
>>723813482>cav level 8>only 2 STR and 1 SPD behind base SethAmelia's husband.
>>723816264You say that, and then he's going around punching zombies in the face.
>>723816358Like watching the wall closing in or watching your eggs expire if you have those you larper.
>>723816358Clearly not, because Seadall is like 20 and you don't care about him, fagboy.
>>723816608Once again, I have no interest in twinks.I want a man who can take care of me.
>>723816723>considers a tall fit man as a "twink">proceeds to post a tall lanky manFaggot.
>>723814760Geese has a way with the ladies.
>>723812838>player expressionTranny talk.
>>723816250emulator crashed when playing engage, reset chapter, fucked up opener and ended stream to try again but correctly next streamtried soloing lunatic conquest with ophelia but lategame made him switch to hard mode at the end, title of stream doesnt mention itplays like a retard, marth is about to probably die, he cuts stream before it happens, opens today's stream with "well marth miraculously lived so run lives"it's ALWAYS the loudest ironmanfags
>>723816990To be fair he ran a poll that was 5050 on if he should reset or continue the taint run.>emulator crashthats not even his fault
Fur mich ist es mein waifu ShamirPara mi, es mi esposa Shamir俺にとってはお嫁さんのシャミアですI love my waifu Shamir
>>723817441he fumbled the opener, reset, and ended stream after the emulator crashed
>>723813228lickable pits
>>723817441I remember back when he was playing PoR maniac mode all the time his emulator would crash like 20 times a stream so he constantly made save states lmao. And he is like the only person I've ever heard of getting Dolphin crashes on that game so it was definitely something he could have easily fixed whenever he wanted.
>>723816890why can't Japanese spell berserk consistently?
Why was shadows not either a traditional mainline game or just a side mode in one?
Mangs is going to lose at the final chapter. You can beat the final boss without the falchion but doing it with the crumbs that is the current state of his army is unlikely
I will give you all a choice today for the relay. Should I scrimblo every single kill on the map besides the boss to Niemi and promote her this chapter>ORShould I LTC clear the map as quickly as possible. I will give /vfeg/ 20 minutes to decide
>>723815640Percival confirmed to be a homo because he wanted to kill this cutie
>>723818358Because it's an English word. There's always nuance in translation.
>>723818470Neimi time Don't forget the energy ring you need to steal with colm from the mage
>>723818470Feed neimi
I like Knoll
>>723818470LTC, and sell the Bolt
>>723818470Neimi! She needs to live up to her grandfather's name!
>>723818470Scrimblo, total ltcfag death
>>723818358A lot of words skip some Rs or other letters when translated to Japanese. Party -> Pa-ti- for example. Something like Beruzaruka would be missing the spirit of the pronunciation
Beruka Zerker
>>723818358Nip fundamentally is a different language. Every "letter" in the kana alphabet can only be pronounced in one specific way (except for は due to grammar) and consonnants are always paired with vowels (except for n).Because of this, writing english words in nip requires some creativity, especially since the priority for nips is to conserve pronounciation as much as possible over spelling.
>>723818470kill neimi
When I have time later today, is there any other art I should color?
>>723818470>blow an entire chapter worth of exp or blow an entire chapter of exp FASTE
>>723818470Feed Neimi, then promote her to the cav class.
>>723819598The entire FE If: crown of nibelung manga chapter 1
>>723818470Feed Neimi and promote her to Ranger
>>723791281How the fuck were you meant to discover this?
>>723819731lissen 'ere, u cheeky fuck
>>723818470Do it for her.
>>723811186FE8's cast size is average in FE. Its just that most people ignore most of them.
>cucking her out of SURE STRIKEIshygddt
>>723803185>le maedaFE8 was directed by Kita. Besides the swap was that "Tana" went from general to pegasus princess and "Amelia" went from pegasus trainee to knight trainee
>>723819989>FE8's cast size is average in FEEven comparing it to the other GBA games, it has like half.8 has 34, counting Orson6 has 54.7 has 44.>b-but creature campaignOkay, then 6 now has 62, while 8 now merely TIES with 7.
>>723811173>9+ levels>Sabotaging Vanessa by putting her in the inferior class>Vanessa is stat screwed and Tana is blessed
>>723818470Now here we see what is called the door-in-the-face technique. By presenting the ridicoulous request to play the chapter LTC style, it makes the request of scrimbloing Neimi far more palpatable in comparison, effectively selling people on it with far less protests.
I want to jump
>>723820480>jump
Welp we are out of money but neimi has 4 bows now instead of just 1. Im bringing colm and arthur for the supports, natasha for the seth support, and vanessa is purely there for rescuebot shit.
>>723820302Falco is actually the better class, but you are correct on everything else. If anything, Vanessa should have the level advantage here if you want the comparison to be fair since you get her at the beginning of the game instead of halfway through.
turn 1 of our fire emblem 8 zero percent growths low turn count playthrough
>>723803185>maedaWhy do you pretend to be retarded?
>>723820586>Falco is the better classIn what way?
The first of many
>It's another romhacker makes his scrimblo OP in his hack episode.Can't remember which one but I played an FE7 romhack a while ago and fucking Gwyn of all units was juiced to the gills she had some pretty broken skills and unique sprite as well.
>>723820586>Falco is the better classFalco is worse than Wyvern in combat in almost every scenario and triangle attack requires dragging Syrene along. You can bring up rescuing but Wyvern still rescues the vast majority of units and 14 Aid isnt enough for certain key targets like NA Hero Gerik.
Slow and steady wins the ltc
>>723791281entirety of any souls and soulslike gamethe idea of playing it again sounds fun, going through leveling up and churning through shit ass levels doesnt
>>723820849>inb4 anon complains about the """"buffed"""" Lyn in legacy when she's still utterly mediocre since she's just marginally better than her already shit averages
>>723820750Maeda was the writer for FE8, and the director for Heroes.Even in the past, we know he let Kozaki add a whole character just before the first trailer reveal for Fates, because Kozaki just wanted that character design in the game.No real other way to explain why Tana has 6 units while even Larachel only has 5.
>>723820825It gives better stats and sword rank while all that Wyvern gives is an irrelevant +3 con since Vanessa has overkill spd and an unreliable proc skill that admittedly would be pretty strong if it was based off anything else than unit level. I do suggest Wyvern for Tana though, since her later join time means that you'd rather have pierce over a sword rank that you have no time to increase and +3 con to make up for lost spd levels from early promoting.
>>723820285You dont get access to everyone in 6/7 at once. Furthermore, when you include games like Gaiden/Modern FE, you'd realize that 34 is about average.
All the enemies that move are dead so its time for seth to bait and neimi to EAT. On a side note my emulator is running really slowly so i fear it may just die mid scrimblo goon sesh
>>723821194Whoops, sorry. Larachel only has 4 units. They never even gave her an Attuned.
>>723821231How does having swords help?
>>723821231>better statswrong>sword ranke swords is a joke. javelin is what you'll use in most cases.Falco is only useful for rescue and triangle attack
Shes gonna 1 v 1 the archer now
>>723821307>le scary axe user (just an axereaver dumbass)
>>723821460This chick is ASS
>>723821532Just babysit her more. i have faith in her.
>>723821532GG nigga
>>723821307Mostly for avoid and defense from wt control. Sinve she joins so early, you can easily get her sword rank to C so that she can use Killers and have swords be a good combat option for her alongside lances.
>>723821235>GaidenAn NES game from like 15 years prior, and has almost as many as FE8.Or rather, FE8 had as few as 2 did.>modern FEAre you REALLY going to make me bring up the Awakening, Fates, Houses, and Engage rosters? Fucking really?Awakening had 49.Fates had 68!Houses had 41.Engage had 42.Sacred Stones is down there at 33 units. It has one of the smallest rosters in the franchise, and I bet you had to look at the wikis to shop around for a Gaiden namedrop.
Ill just leave this energy ring in the convoy for when we get tana
Fire emblem
>>723821715I know you dont know these unit counts off the top of your head, so why are you "accusing" people of wiki hunting?I bet you're also dishonestly including mutually exclusive units like Scarlet/Izana/Yukimura in the count for Fates.
Huge progress for the LTC, ran the balista down to 0
>>723821434>WrongMore HP, def and res benefits more than some unneeded con which harms recuing and doesn't even help Vanessa double anything she wouldn't be doubling as a Falco anyways.>E rank swordsYou get out of that in 15 combats at most (more like 10 because of kill shots), and making it to C rank is easy as hell too.>Muh javsYou can still use javs as a Falco, SS enemies are too weak for javs to not double them.>Falco is only good for [one of the main draws of fliers] and triangle attack(lol
>>723821715He has a point. You don't recruit every at once in Fates, why even pretend that 69 is representative of a realistic Fates run?Fates has one of the tiniest primary casts per route in the series, in fact. It gets larger with gaiden (paralogue) recruits, but if you're only wedding a few first gens, you can look forward to 27 guaranteed units + some change.
>>723819845how about get lost attention whore
>>723821687I think you're far overvaluing a miniscule amount of avoid and 1 defense in a game where there aren't many scary Axe units by the time she'd ever hit C swords. Plus, Wyvern gives bonus Con which offsets the Weight penalty from the heavier Lances while not forcing you to use lower Might weapons.
Shes finally at level 10
>>723821948>so why are you "accusing" people of wiki hunting?Because you clearly cherrypicked a singular example, then tried to say that it was "normal." Then you just said "modern FE," hoping nobody would call your bluff.Meanwhile, if I actually look into your claims, I can see you're lying out your ass. There are 17 mainline FE games now. You can't even name 3 with only ~30 playable characters without counting Echoes, and even that gets excluded because of its dlc.FE8's cast size is not "normal." You're either lying and/or a retard.
>>723822050>harms rescuingAlmost every relevant character in 8 has 11 or less con. There's a handful of units with more, but they have like 15+ which is too heavy for Falco lol.
>>723821510>Use the 15 use axereaver you get in ch9 on Vanessa until endgameNo way fag. I'd rather give that to Cormag and/or Tana instead of giving it to a unit who really rather not depend on it.
>>723822127>You don't recruit every at once in FatesIf you're playing Revelation, you can have everyone but Yukimura and Izana at the same time. That's 66 units.If you're gonna play this "b-but route and chapter timing" bullshit, I'll just say we're on Eirika route's first chapter, so you only have like 10 units. Woah, what a cast size! 10!
>>723821903Satan's game
>no javelin in jp hard mode
>>723822252You're not realistically getting access to everyone in many games due to them being mutually exclusive.You're also counting shit like DLC characters but ignoring CC from 8's cast.
Before (turning her into a sniper btw)
>>723822192Swords are useful starting off ch10 kek, thanks to them you can immediately stop Duessel's squad from being retarded and make getting the Knight's Crest consistent. C rank is also piss easy to get, it takes less than 20 combats to pull off.
>>723822562After>gooned this shitter for half an hour
>>723822494>You're not realistically getting access to everyone in many games due to them being mutually exclusive.Again, even in Fates, only Yukimura and Izana aren't on Revelation.>You're also counting shit like DLC characters but ignoring CC from 8's cast.No, I didn't count those earlier. I brought that up.If I could Trial maps, FE6's cast goes up by like 10 units.If I count capturable units and dlc from Fates, it goes up by like 21.
HUGE
>>723822392Can you stop spazzing out for a second? Your argument is stupid.By the final chapter in Sacred Stones, you have 33 units. By the final chapter in Birthright or Conquest, you have 27 primary units, and potentially a few conditional units - it's a small cast in a realistic sense, not a hypothetical one.Revelation on the other hand is a piece of shit where the high recruitment count is actually rather damning fact, but yes you do get a lot of units in that game - if all you care about is a large number of playable characters removed from any sense of balance and competent game design.Anything else is cope and fudging the numbers. Nobody plays a Fire Emblem game with 60+ units unless they're grinding.
>>723822743https://files.catbox.moe/au48k5.savSave ^https://files.catbox.moe/kvqbdn.GBARom ^ Chapter 8 please go eirika route im so sick of ephraim every relay
>>723822820>Revelation on the other hand is a piece of shit where the high recruitment count is actually rather damning fact, but yes you do get a lot of units in that game - if all you care about is a large number of playable characters removed from any sense of balance and competent game design.its ok when radiant yawn and marth games do it though lmao
>>723822328>Gerik>Duessel>Garcia>Kyle>Ross>DozlaThere's several characters who you completely lose out on rescuing if you go Wyvern. The three most harmful ones are Dozla who starts as a Green unit that can easily die if in a bad position, Ross who benefits a bunch from not having to manually go through mountains and sea tiles as a Berserker and Duessel whose mov is worse than an infantry.
>>723822669For anyone wondering she was level 12 and -1 hp-1 str (8.95 so more like -2)=skl+2 speed-1luck+1 def+1 res
>>723822613>C RankYou need 70 WEXP to go from E to C.That's about 35 rounds assuming that doubles and kills each time.
>>723822820>By the final chapter in Birthright or Conquest, you have 27 primary units, and potentially a few conditional units - it's a small cast in a realistic sense, not a hypothetical one."I-if you choose to not recruit some units, you'll have less."The smallest route is Conquest at 39 units. Birthright is 41. These aren't counting the Capturable units, either. I'm being nice to you. We can count those, if you like.Really stupid to say this when talking about Sacred Stones, too. If we intentionally ignore optional recruitments, you'll only have like 16 characters at the endgame. So that sounds more fair for the argument you're presenting. 16 or so.>"R-revelation doesn't count because it ruins the balance."Holy goalposts, Batman!
>>723823032No, you don't get it. When old games does it, the bad units are classified as "replacement units" or "investment projects" so it's okay. When will you understand that OLD GAME GOOD AND NEW GAME BAD?
>le 5 mt iron sword spam so you can maybe use a killing edge in 15 chapters /vfeg/ argues in favor of the dumbest shit
>>723823132>Around 10 rounds to get to D>Around 10 rounds to get to C with the 2x Wexp from the Iron BladeWeapon Level is very easy to get once you know what weapons allow you to cheese it.
>>723823032Careful, he'll now say that it doesn't count because of "routes" in a linear game.Just hit him with the old "PoR has over 40 units" and he'll pee himself.
Falcoknight
>>723823198its also ok when FF7 HHM gives you a lot of units but only 8 slots to use them, and 5 of those slots at absolute minimum are locked in unless you're going out of your way to hardcore scrimblo
>A capped spd Falcoknight can't double the notoriously weak SS enemies unlike le wyvern meme/vfeg/ argues against the dumbest shit
Iron Blade Amelia
>>723822252>17 mainline gamesHey oldfag, think fast
>>723803053Larum is a slut who tried to seduce Ephraim
>>723823065>Gerik/GarciaOnly in specific classes. They have too much con otherwise.>Duessel/DozlaLegitimately too heavy to rescue in any promoted class.>RossIf you go Berserker or Warrior yeah. Hero has 11 Con if you opt for that but Berserker is optimal.>KyleYes, this is a case.Practically its just Ross and Kyle. Maybe Garcia if you go Hero and Gerik if you pick Ranger.
>>723823529I like shadows but I refuse to call it main line
>>723823032Who is defending RD's unit balance?>>723823149>he's counting capturablesYou are such an unbelievable nigger lolI don't know why you've made this cast size thing a part of your identity, as if a large cast is a good cast. Large casts are frequently poorly balanced, we see this in Revelation, and that's why a lot of the Fates cast is OPTIONAL. They can't all practically exist simultaneously, so you pick and choose who you have in a playthrough.I can see you're committed to fudging the numbers in totally ridiculous ways though. Now you're arguing that Marisa, Amelia, and Joshua (primary units) are the same thing as Fates's 20 child units that can't even exist without hitching their parents, because you MUST win this arbitrary numbers game.Wanna include Genealogy subs to inflate its numbers too? Nigger.
>>723823529It's ok, Kurt. Your game is ongoing, so I'm not counting it against you.
>>723823198New FE is designed with heavily investing in units in mind with class changing and such in mind. So applying the same standards would be a mistake, it's an entirely different design.
>>723823320There's only one killing edge before the Chapter 17 shop. Just like the axereaver. Seth makes better use lol
>>723823638>>he's counting capturablesI didn't. I asked you if you wanted to.WITH captures, Conquest is now at 48.>as if a large cast is a good cast. You're again trying to change the goalposts. The discussion was purely about Sacred Stones having one of the smallest cast sizes, then you claiming it was normal.You clearly lost that debate, so now you're deflecting to "cast quality."> Now you're arguing that Marisa, Amelia, and Joshua (primary units) are the same thing as Fates's 20 child units that can't even exist without hitching their parents,You said that capturable units don't count. Many of which are in the main chapters. Do they not count, despite not being out of the way?These shifting goalposts are annoying. Settle on an argument already.
>>723823149No one gets all of the children in Fates at once unless you specificially and autistically route your game to do so.
>>723792263The biggest recent one would probably be The Shadow of Dawn, which is a sequel of Dark Amulet - both are decent story-first hacks. At the beginning of next month starts an "FEE3" hack showcase with a few bigger WIP hacks planned to release around then, I would recommend Fire Emblem Advance: Homecoming from that pile.
>>723824024Mm, sounds like goalposts, chief. The discussion is about cast size, not recruitment.
>>723821715>Houses had 41Which route in 3H actually lets you get 41 units?You cant have Edelgard, Claude, Hubert, Jeritza on Lions.
>>723822613You could also just use an entirely different Sword unit for stopping Duessel's Squad instead of having a suboptimal Vanessa. That's a very weird hill to die on.
>>723823914>Giving Seth the Killing Edge??? He can use Silvers at base, and doesn't struggle to kill to begin with. >There's only one killing edge before the Chapter 17 shopThat's not true either, Ephraim route gives you a spare on ch10 and both routes have them as early as ch14 in the Secret Shop
>people are arguing about wiki page cast sizes instead of playing fire emblemholy shit guys pls
>>723824097FE4 on paper has a larger cast size than what you realistically get because the two sets of children cant exist at the same time.You have played the game right?
>>723824086>I would recommend Fire Emblem Advance: Homecomingyeah i think im good dude
>>723824180>"b-but routes"Goalposts.
>>723824225No one can get there as fast as Vanessa, and these green units are notoriously suicidal. Plus, she can chase the pirates down in the water, preventing the green units from suiciding into them in the first place.
>>723824335Answer the question faggot. Which route do I get to use 41 units at once in 3H.
>>723824239This is not the dumbest argument in /vfeg/
>>723824317>keeps deflecting to "but recruitment"Make a real argument, please.Shit, even as you pointed out, you only miss out on 2-5 units, depending on your route. You really didn't think that one through, did you?
>>723824384>no one can get there as fast as vanessaAny 9 movement unit can due to the map design.
>>723824409gross
>>723824415>"I-I know I lost the last argument, but PLEASE PLEASE change arguments so I can try to win THIS one!"Fucking lmao. Cry more, bitchboy. I'm almost there.
>>723823992I notice people like you that have found your favorite metaphor in "goalposts" are always the most insufferable posters here. You can never concede even slightly.>The discussion was purely about Sacred Stones having one of the smallest cast sizes, then you claiming it was normal.I didn't claim anything was "normal." I agreed with a different anon that 68 playable characters in Fates is not a realistic representation of how Fates plays *in practice*. Pointing out capturables is only doubling down on the dishonesty of that number.No one recruits fucking Ignatius and Shitbert, just admit it. Fates is full of a bunch of optional ests that inflate its roster, be real about this instead of obstinately sticking to your original point even when flaws with it have been pointed out to you.
>>723824409>>723824545>Can't even post his old images anymore because the mods image ranged banned them allLol get fucked
>>723824571>incapable of answeringAs expected of retarded wiki warrior
No one cares about your gay roster size debate play chapter 8
>>723823638>Now you're arguing that Marisa, Amelia, and Joshua (primary units) are the same thing as Fates's 20 child units that can't even exist without hitching their parentsMarisa, Amelia, and Joshua are all as optional as the child units because neither are automatically recruited. However, they all count for the cast size for anyone that isn't autistic because they all have unique portraits, supports, etc. Why wouldn't child units be counted? What the fuck is a "primary unit"?
>>723824535Um, no? She's the only one with 9 mov who can skip the enemy formations entirely and who can move above the water tiles
>>723824239>sacred snoressorry I only play GODquest
>ITT
>>723824319The black girl is the midgame knight in a game where knights fall off and where most units don't talk after recruitment, as there are no supports, she's as forgettable as it can be. Stop shitting your pants about romhack women not being bombshells.
>>723824584>I notice people like you that have found your favorite metaphor in "goalposts" are always the most insufferable posters here. You can never concede even slightly.The discussion was about some retard saying that Sacred Stones' cast size "was about average."You're no longer discussing the cast size. You're now deflecting to recruitments, and saying that paralogues don't count because... if they did then you'd lose!>I agreed with a different anonOh, then you're just a disingenuous retard jumping into a random conversation and trying to change what it was about.I don't give a fuck about what you want to talk about. I was talking about something else.If I'm talking to someone about the top speeds of cars, and some idiot comes along saying "okay, but what about acceleration speed?" then I'm going to tell him that this discussion isn't about that.
>>723824838The fat fuck on the left is a bigger (heh) issue.
Of course sacred stones had less characters than most other games (if you ignore creature campaign)It has less chapters. Do you want it to give you 5 units a chapter ever chapter or something? Most of the squad already lives on the bench we don't need another 5 scrimblos yet.
>>723824384Berserker Ross can deal with the pirates, too. You don't even need to promote Vanessa to get Ross in the middle of the Pirates on Turn 1, too (Rescue Chain him to Vanessa or Tana and have one of them drop Ross in the water). NEXT!
>>723824675>Why wouldn't child units be counted? What the fuck is a "primary unit"?They don't count because otherwise he loses. That's it. That's the sole reason.In a few threads, he'll argue the opposite. Just as long as he wants to be "right."
>>723824838yeah i wanna play fire emblem bro not fat ugly bitch emblem
>>723824929>Berserker Ross>on turn 1??? Do you play SS at all?
>>723824838They don't have to be bombshells but at least look plain and cute
>>723824675You know as well as I that Marisa, Amelia, and Joshua *exist* in every run of Sacred Stones where they aren't accidentally killed or missed. I wasn't talking about units like Izana and Flora that technically have a recruitment condition, but it's trivial. Same for Marisa, Amelia, and Joshua, whom you just have to talk to with another unit in order for them to join you.I'm talking about characters that are burdensome to make exist and recruit, like most of the Fates kids. You realistically can't make more than maybe 5 of them exist in a given run, and that's with effort.The point being that you don't have 40+ available units in Conquest at any point. Fucking hardly. It simply never happens if you're being honest about it.
>>723825059>When fully promoted, Ross may become a Hero as a Fighter, a Berserker as a Pirate, or a Warrior as either.
>>723824983Then play Curse of Lagdou.
>>723824878FE8 has ~42 characters that can be recruited in one playthrough with 32 of them joining in the main game.Then you sperged out.
>>723825152How do you want to promote him to Berserker in ch10, retard?
>>723825140>where they aren't accidentally killed or missed.Okay, so captures count.>You realistically can't make more than maybe 5 of them exist in a given runWhat? It's very easy to just Pair Up units.
>>723825194Again, if you're going to start counting Creature Campaign, then several other games will go up by like 10+ units, again leaving SS in the dust for cast sizes. It's the smallest of all the GBA games, and smaller than almost every game.
>>723825185this is a tranny game and every FEU project being so obviously tranny games is why noone cares about FEE3
>>723825140>Well it's really hard to get all the kids without being autistic in ConquestHard, but not impossible on a normal run. That's also ignoring the Before Awakening DLC you can infinitely replay; you don't get EXP or wEXP, but you do get support points and a single Pebble for completing it.
>>723824878Yep, you're exactly as I pegged you. Idiots like you who go on about "goalposts" always rage at everything and have to win whatever argument you're in at all costs.You still don't get it. I only said "he has a point." I wasn't arguing against Sacred Stones having a smaller than average cast, I was pointing out a mitigating factor in Sacred Stone's in smaller than average cast by calling into question the fairness of your inflated number for Fates.Like you're literally comparing 3 games to 1 and are surprised the 1 has fewer characters, it's so fucking dumb.
>>723825246Sorry, I meant as a Pirate himself, not as a Berserker. Pirates can also walk on water.
>>723825503As a pirate, he can't handle that many enemies. His stats are simply not good enough by that point.
>>723825258>Okay, so captures count.I MUST WIN. ME CAN'T TRY TO UNDERSTAND WHERE YOUCOMING FROM. ME WANT WIN FIGHT!!!!!
>>723825654First of all, yes he can. Second of all, Pirates have shit move in water so he's not going to be enemy phasing all 5 of them at once. He'll have time to pop a Vulnerary on Player Phase, or use an Elixir since IIRC you have at least two by chapter 10.
>>723825501>and have to win whatever argument you're in at all costs.Buddy, you're the one changing goalposts for the purpose of winning at all costs.Look in the mirror, black kettle. I'm at least the one trying to stay on-topic. You keep shifting things solely because you want to "win."No matter how hard you cry, it's a fact that FE8 has one of the smallest casts in the series.> I wasn't arguing against Sacred Stones having a smaller than average castYou're the idiot that kept demanding I play by new rules while saying I was wrong. You did argue against me, you just lost.>Like you're literally comparing 3 games to 1I didn't. He did (possibly you, assuming you're just samefagging). Whichever idiot said "modern games" did it. That was the goalpost I argued within. He compared FE8 to FE14, like a retard. And I called the bluff.If that makes you upset, take it up with your mom as she changes your diaper.
>>723825258No, anon, you can't use Pair Up because then the other guy loses the argument!!!
>>723825140>where they aren't accidentally killed or missed.So children count?
>>723825731Recruitments like Haitaka are easy. He's honestly easier to recruit than Eirika route's Amelia. Niles was gotten like a chapter prior, so he's probably alive. Haitaka doesn't move. Just capture him.If your argument was that they aren't accidentally killed or missed, then you should be getting Haitaka every run.
>>723825828No, retard. Because the kids don't exist in every run Fates. Do you recruit Ignatius in every single run of Fates? You make sure that Benny sperm fertilizes a womb? Really?
>>723825967Unironically, yes, I do.
>>723825967>play the minmax-focused game>on harder difficulties, you want the free exp that paralogues give, so you build supports to make kids>on easier difficulties, you have more wiggleroom to build supportsUnless it's a LTC run, you're probably doing the paralogues for the loot and exp.
>>723825425nobody fucking cares about FE hacks that aren't made by e-celebs, the most popular mods of all time are about gay supports.
>>723825960Haitaka isn't even a real character, faggot. Shut up already. No we're not counting the generic replacements from Shadow Dragon, Einherjar from Awakening, and we're not including generics with special portraits either. I hate even talking with you people, you're all so annoying. It's always about winning the argument at all costs instead of reaching some kind of understanding.
>>723825786>First of all, yes he canNot with his shit stats he can't. For all the shit Falco Vanessa gets for supposedly not doubling, it's ironic that you'd shill a character that actually does have spd and con issues like Ross, nevermind his low skill and average def. Nevermind killing them, he'll be running for his life if he tries to fight the pirates in the sea tiles on his own, unlike Falco Vanessa who can easily kill them and stall them indefinitly.
>>723825425Most FEU hacks are tranny games but at least Curse of Lagdou has big tiddies, which makes it marginally more based than your average hack from there.
>>723826151>Haitaka isn't even a real character, faggot.You were counting Creature Campaign units.Without looking it up, I doubt you even remember who "Hayden" is.
>>723826224The pirates have22-25 HP6-8 Str7-8 Spd3-4 DefOne has an Iron Axe, one has a Hand AxeThe average 10/1 Pirates Ross has:23 HP11 Str6 Spd6 DefAt most, he'd be dealing with two Pirates at a time. He can equip the Hatchet to hit back at range and keep both Pirates at bay, freeing up your Vanessa to do whatever whatever she wants.
>>723826503>You were counting Creature Campaign units.I'm not that guy.My ONLY point in all this, the only thing I've argued, is that yes, Sacred Stones has a smaller than average cast - BUT cast size is a more nuanced issue than you might initially think by looking at raw numbers. Comparing Sacred Stone's roster to the hypothetical maximum of the combined routes of Fates is dumb. And you can always fudge a game's numbers when you start looking at extra and conditional units. That's all I've been saying.
>>723826778>cast size is a more nuanced issue than you might initially thinkThis is even more fucking stupid than the guy that thinks you need to early promote Vanessa so she can have Swords
>>723826778>"if I change goalposts, then I'm the victim and everyone else is a butt!!"Put some pants over your farting mouth, butt. I'm tired of your terrible posts.
>>723826859Then you have to agree Awakening mogs every game. It has its standard cast, plus named Einherjar recruitables. There's no nuance to it, right? In raw numbers, it's the largest. Let's be idiots about this - nothing compares to Awakening.
PLAY the relay
>>723826898You have a picture of men moving a football goal saved on your PC, don't you?
>>723827073DO NOT PLAY the relayKeep arguing over steel blade Vanessa and roster sizes
Never betting on low hit rates ever again.
>>723827093No, but I do have pictures of butts, and you look like one I would not save.
tana won
>>723827135If we beat the relay then no one can ever say FE8 is hard ever again. Its worth the blood and tears
>>723826469I only saw more big-breasted ladies in Sword over Blood, but also a bunch of lesbians in there.
>>723827253Someone make a new thread
>>723827005Actually, Awakening ties with Shadow Dragon and Fates as the biggest cast, because they all have infinitely recruitable characters. Glad you understand.
>>723826739>Ignoring his skill(lol. Also, thanks for proving that Ross really can't take many hits from the pirates, and can't double them either.
>>723827437Yeah, we should all be dumber and less understanding.
>>723827337300 second cooldown, wait warmly
>>723827294>face veil>sticking her tits out>tits have a mesh over themNow that's a villainess I'd want to recruit.
>>723827467That's just the minimum level for Ross to be a Pirate. If you're not retarded, he's already much higher considering his fast EXP gain. I gave you the bare minimum and he still succeeds without blowing a promotion item on a suboptimal class.
>>723824664>d>>723824571>>723824415>>723824335So whats the point of this debate? Like understand its about roster size but like why?
>>723827530>wait warmlyOkeydoke.
>>723827571>Anon makes retarded claim>Other anons tell him he's retarded>Pedantic anons continue the debate because they're bored at work>Other anons take the bait and tell them they're retarded
>>723827571Some idiot claimed the roster wasn't small.He cleanly lost that, because you can just google the numbers and see he's wrong.So he instead tried to change it to something else, because his pride was hurt. Because he's fragile.
>>723827695grug must winfoe must lose
>>723827842Yes, otherwise there's no reason to bring up paralogues in a discussion about raw numbers.
Reminder that FE6's chapter count is inflated because most of them are paralogues that you don't qualify for in EVERY run (as the True Ending doesn't count)
>>723827872I'm more interested in gamefeel than a list of facts. That's just me though.
Thread is up
>>723827563Even leveling up to 10 as a pirate (as if), his situation's not changing: he still can't double nor does he have enough skill to hit them reliably, so he'll take more of a beating than he'll dish out to the enemies. Ross simply isn't a good option there, especially since it requires 2 units just to do so. Meanwhile, you could just use the so-called "suboptimal class" (in what way, I still am not sure) unit on her own and not struggle at all, all the while getting the oh so hard to get sword rank.
>>723827981Thread is down, jannies hate relays
>>723828053If the Pirates are distracted, then the job is done because they aren't bothering the Duessel's Squad. Keeping the Duessel's Squad safe from suicide was your entire argument.
>>723828149>instantly deleted
>>723828149Its kind of proof a janny lurks this thread since it was deleted in like 2 minutes
>>723828149You need to make it a stealthy thread like this one. Notice how it doesn't actually mention fire emblem anywhere in the OP.
hey janny you missed this actual general >>723794671
>>723828171It doesn't help if my unit is the one that ends up needing to be babysat since he might die himself if left unattended.
