What games allow me to build great physics defying man made objects?
this wouldn't work because if the earth turns the thing is gonna coil around it like if you tied one end of a string to a ball and rolled it on the ground
>>723791418Obese men dont count as planets
>>723791418>if the earth turns>IFOh yeah, on the off chance that might happen sometime... As it does... Occasionally
Why don't they take a cable up to the moon next time they go. Attach it and then you can climb to the moon any time you want after that
>>723791536what?
>>723791585we don't go to the moon anymorealiens kicked us out
>>723791660We're going back we got rid of them. Remember when Obama nuked trhe moon?
>>723791321*Snaps*Ok now what big boy?
>>723791772another 5 trillion to NASA!!!
>>723791748Obama didn't nuke the moon you idiotThat was Eggman
>>723791585Do the math to figure out how much a 384,000km long cable would weight.Choose any diameter and material of your liking.Then estimate how much would it cost to lift that much material just to LEO, not even all the way to the moon
>>723791321>build space elevator>some butthurt jihadi or schizophrenic flies a plane into it>trillions of dollars lostHow do you prevent this?
>>723791660Moon bears and the Wizard cartels aren't aliens, they just emigrated to the moon first.
>>723792170One could try not making people reasons to be angry at you by not partaking in imperialist expansionism and interfering with foreign interest.
>>723792158Well what the fuck are we paying NASA for?
>>723792170
>>723792295To do expensive research that billionaire run companies can use for free to generate colossal profits for the shareholders
>>723792295Not much, last i checkedt. different
>>723792170Step 1: Glass the middle eastStep 2: Build space elevator as planned
>>723792295you know this may be a joke but it IS a little weird how well funded the space agency is, what do they even do? why do they need this much funding, other than as a holdoff from trying to beat the russians in the space race, who won every goalpost we moved except the last one on a smaller budget, under communism, fueled by nothing but the passion of a buncha drunk bear wrestlers and their womens' pelmeni and now what? that's it, it's over, why are we still throwing so much money as an agency that now does not much more than photograph space
>>723791418Isnt that what the counterweight is for? Like if you spin around in a circle holding a piece of string it will wrap around you, but if you tie a metal ball to the end of the string it will get flung out and hold the string straight?
>>723792489and what happens if i stop? it'll spin around me and hit me in the dick
>>723791585the moon is slowly drifting away by like 2 inches every year or something
>>723791585so are you gonna attack the earthside of the cable to a track that circles around the entire earth or what
>>723792550If the earth stops we'll have slightly bigger problems to worry about.
>>723791772blame it on god and a failure of your translation software and go back home
>>723792414Keeps the US from falling behind in space tech, research and explorationIf NASA got defunded you'd be bitching that China is now the global tech leader and the US space program was overtaken by the indians
>>723792414NASA only took 0.37% of the US budget last year.
>>723792392You'd need to wipe almost all of Africa, middle east, central Asia, south east Asia and part of Oceania, plus round up all mudslimes (terrorists) in the civilized world too.
>>723792583Just have some guy hold it and run really fast.
>>723792582It won't be able to if its attached to Earth
>>723792672>We would have colonized Venus by now if we weren't funding Israel's gay retard holy wars.Grim.
>>723792693You talk as if that's difficult. The hardest part is getting all the White countries to break the kike brainwashing. The rest will be trivial.
>>723792582>more and more indians are born>celestial bodies increase physical distancegrim
>>723792671>If NASA got defunded you'd be bitching that China is now the global tech leader and the US space program was overtaken by the indiansno i would not, because china and india only want to appear advanced to stick it to the US, it doesn't matter how fancy schmancy their shit looks, it'll never be more than a shiny facade on top of matchsticks and glue, let em have their fun, they're not *actually* advanced it's just a dickmeasuring contest and they're stuffing a sock in there and calling themselves winnersAt this point the only reason to keep this charade going is morale, intelligent people may understand it's full of shit, but stupid people don't, stupid people will look at China's tofu airplanes and go "ooooh fuck they're WINNING" and that's all we're trying to prevent, not a takeover, not war, just stupid people not being more impressed with a buncha commies that the USIt's space race 2.0 except now our enemy is incompetent and it's all for show
>>723792170The area around the elevator would naturally be a no-fly zone stretching miles with radar alerting anyone of an incoming aircraft.The fact that it would be such a crucial piece of equipment means that no country in the world would oppose direct and immediate interception, so anyone crossing the zone would be gibbed by all manner of anti-air.
>>723792804>even celestial bodies want to be as far away from the jeets as they cannever thought i'd be jealous of a celestial body
>>723792786I was just pointing the scale of islam in the world, this religion is really great at brainwashing people.
>>723792170How do they prevent terrorists from flying planes into buildings every day?
>>723792170>some butthurt jihadi or schizophrenic flies a plane into itYeah, suuuuure, that's what they tell us when NASA itself orchestrates a crash into it to tighten surveillance and ask for more money
>>723792901>equipment means that no country in the world would oppose direct and immediate interceptionI can absolutely see Sweden or something trying to argue that shooting down a crazy Muslim in a plane is more hateful than letting him kill thousands
>>723791321Dydon Sphere Program
>>723792343Belka did nothing wrong.
>>723792832Ah yes, the Intel wayIf industry leader stop investing and developing new tech, fire engineers and researchers, assume your opposition is dumb and weak, you're too big to fail, aren't you?
>get into elevator>goes with normal elevator speed>reach space in about 5 months>install high speed elevator>still takes about 3 weeks to reach space>install constant acceleration elevator reaching absurd speeds of several hundred km/s>still takes several days to reach space>the further you move away from the center of earths rotation, the faster your orbiting velocity getswhy WOULD any of this work at all?
>>723793340What's the issueNone of that is prohibitive and would still save hundreds of billions if not trillions of dollars compared to using rockets to lift things into space
>>723793592the issue is that you cannot transport humans with it
>>723793340>>the further you move away from the center of earths rotation, the faster your orbiting velocity getsThis is literally, factually, definitionally, the entire point. By the time you reach the counterweight you are absurdly high far beyond geostationary orbit going ludicrously fast, using the orbital energy of the counterweight to do so. Which can be regained by de-orbiting something of similar mass.
>>723791418>if the Earth turnsThe earth is tidally locked to the moon. So, relative to the sun, it is always turning. That's why the space elevator needs a counterweight and to have its center of gravity above geostationary orbit. This picture doesn't mention the counter-climber or else thrusters on the counter-weight which would also be necessary.>>723791585Luna's orbit is not circular enough to manage cable tension. Luna's orbit and tidal locking is critical to life on Earth and should not be tampered with.>>723792170>How do you prevent this?I wonder if the mossad agents dancing while the space elevator fell had anything to do with it.>>723792295To put a foid and a nigger on Mars in violation of multiple treaties.>>723792671NASA is wildly overfunded and the US is generations behind China regarding space. The US is struggling to figure out how it will decomission the ISS now that Roscosmos is no longer carrying the project. China meanwhile is operating the only modern space station. All of their recent inter-lunar missions have demonstrated navigation and maneuvering that NASA hasn't solved. NASA meanwhile is struggling to return to the moon and the only mission parameters they're confident about are the need for niggers to make firsts on the mission.>>723792672>NASA only took 0.37% of the US budget last year.Enough to feed, house, and educate every single person in the US including illegals. The F-35 program also cost more than that.>>723792832>china and india only want to appear advancedChina has a modern space station. You can read about it online. America has an aging hunk of shit that it needed help from the whole world to build. Now that America alienated Russia enough for Roscosmos to leave the project, NASA has to figure out how to decomission the ISS. They couldn't figure it out and are paying Space X to take on the liability. SpaceX represents 90% of terrestrial tonnage-to-orbit, but most of that is 1m^3 shitboxes.
>>723794708>>723791561There is lots of research showing the earth doesn't rotate, stop spewing what you learned in school
>>723794259so use rockets for that
>>723794708>Luna's orbit is not circular enough to manage cable tensionUse elastic stretchy cable
>>723794708>The earth is tidally locked to the moonno... it's not. the Moon is tidally locked to Earth, that's why only one face of the Moon is always facing the Earth and not the other way around.>Enough to feed, house, and educate every single person in the US including illegalsno... it's not. you're completely underestimating how much spending that would take and sound underage. or you're just a bot.
>>723793340>why WOULD any of this work at all?Orbital mechanics. The point is to lift heavy cargo with an energy advantage relative to rocketry by avoiding the fuel equation.>>723794808>There is lots of research showing the earth doesn't rotateYou are retarded. All motion is relative. The Earth rotates relative to some things and not to others. I didn't learn any of this in school because the American education system is shit. You can learn about the rotation of the Earth by looking at the sky, reading the work of any astronomer, or paying a little attention to space industry.
>>723792158Why don't we just make stronger rockets then?
>>723794892>Have a problem>Introduce a solution>Now you have two problemsI like your gumption but the core issue with this project is materials science, so adding more requirements to the material is counter productive.>>723794974>you're completely underestimating how much spending that would takeEducation, housing, and food cost wildly more in the US (not just consumer price but production cost) because they are for profit enterprises run by multinats. There are many nations throughout history that successfully socialized these, and all of them were poorer than the US. It's kind of like how Russia's MIC has double the production of the US' on 1/10th the budget. America is incredibly corrupt, but there's also a feedback loop where cost of living (food, housing, education) drive up the cost of labor which drives up the cost of everything. Take NASA's budget, pay off FHA mortgages and issue a new wave. Now the labor pool isn't paying rent. Cost of living goes down, the same wages now go farther.The only thing I estimated wrong was when I forgot that the US' population is now 30% non-citizen. So let's say the budget could feed, house, and educate every American citizen. Keep in mind there are still $60,000 houses in the US. Not houses you'd buy with your own money, but I'd buy 'em with NASA budget.
>>723791321Why don't we launch rockets from the top of Mount Everest? Closer to the sky=less effort to get out
>>723792693We could just cut them off and they'd wipe themselves out
>>723794708>>723795628Okay but why should we waste money trying to civilize apes? We're already spending too much on them. We need to cut our losses and put everything in on space travel.
>>723795628>Education, housing, and food cost wildly more in the US yadda yaddaGod you're fucking retarded. NASA's budget for last year was $24.875 billion. Even if I gave you your extremely retarded assumption that 30% of people in the US are here illegally, 70% of the US population is still 238 million people. If you divided NASA's budget among them, that would equate to around $105 per person, per year.Now please enlighten me, how could a person survive on $105 per year, with housing, food and education included?
>>723791321First you make ze space elevator, then you make ze super computer then you make ze gundams
>>723797548A-and then what sir??....
>>723798560Ze aliens
>>723795965The closer you are to the equator the better it is, so i recon you'd get the most benefit yeeting rockets from the kilimanjaro
>>723792267>partaking in imperialist expansionismsounds like what muslims do
>>723793145Anon, surely you can tell the difference between a company that sells a product, and a political slapfight between two countries that pretend to be enemies while sucking eachothers dicksAlso, China and the US are both idiots hereThe US doesn't need China, if two two split, all the US has to lose is cheap Temu knickknacks and a disposable industry, the US can make its own products it just chooses not to, without China they'd be better of, yet they give them ample information and control within their own country as if they just HAVE to suckle on their dry tittiesChina on the other hand needs the US, so much of their very existence relies on them, and yet they're constantly stabbing them in the back, they're not even smart enough to pretend to be allies while planning to betray them, the just straight up spit on the ground and kick their feet whenever the US looks away because they have nothing left but an ego and they neeeed to constantly display how big it is and how much they hate them lest their people forgetIt's a gullible giant constantly getting kicked in the shins by a gay little gnome who needs the giant to carry it around because the gnome sometimes feeds it berries
>>723798560Sex with Tieria
>>723792267Fucking ESL. Stop using words you don't understand.
>>723799198The US economy couldn't handle losing the cheap labor, the megacorporations have raced to the bottom for decades and the entire system relies on this exploitationYou had a preview during the retarded tariff exchange, the few US manufacturers left import raw materials and off the shelf components. A made in USA car is 10,000 chinese components stitched together with chinese glue
>>723799198>if two two split, all the US has to lose is cheap Temu knickknacks and a disposable industry, the US can make its own products it just chooses not toThe US cannot produce metals and plastic at the prices China does with their insanely low cost of labor. Even after shipping it mogs anything locally produced on multiple orders of magnitude. And even if the US decided to start shifting their economy from a service one to a slave-labor like manufacturing powerhouse like what China is doing right now, it would not only take decades to go back to that, but it would decimate the standard of living for the majority of people - the reason they can afford the multitude of goods so cheaply is because another country with over a billion people is using it's human capital to produce it for a fraction of the cost, so unless you want everything you buy to be out of commercial reach of the average consumer in the US, they cannot split from China.
>>723799558swap "making" with "giving"
>>723793340I think the appeal is not having to use up fuel to send man-made objects into space, by substituting the energy required for lift-off with mechanical energy AKA just raising the thing up manually, which would be generally convenient.The obvious problem first and foremost is materials, there's no material on Earth right now AFAIK that can withstand the forces involved in it (not just the gravity but also the thing literally ripping apart and flying out into space).The second problem is that it's probably not as practical as using combustibles for rocket-launching anyway unless we're running out of it. It's basically designing a giant tower that will withstand its own weight, the weight of whatever you want to carry up there and it stays anchored to the ground.The third reason is that we don't have much of a reason to go to space yet.
>>723799638>The US economy couldn't handle losing the cheap laborThe "cheap" labor is part of what is ruining the economy, a return to well made long lasting items would be idealOnly the elites won't be able to handle it
>>723801029>Only the elites won't be able to handle itguess who is running the country
>>723791418Put it on the pole. Then it won't matter it if spins
>>723801765Then there's nothing holding it up. A space elevator would not be able to be built with usual compressive forces, the base would have to be impossibly large. You need the tension forces of the counterweight pulling it up from beyond geostationary orbit. It has to be at the equator.
>>723801179I knowGuess who's wellbeing I don't give a rat's ass about
