What are you supposed to do when your main in a fighting game is utter shit on the tier list but you don't want to play anyone else because she's your favorite? Granblue devs please buff Sheep Tits
>>723802108I wanna fuck her tits so bad
Anila is ugly and objectively the worst Zodiac. Get better taste
You become that one guy in the community that makes it work despite all oddsYou arent bad at fighting games, right?
>>723802378Sorry anon I'm talking about an actual video game not gacha slop.
You get good at the game, shitterstop relying on the character doing all the work for you, anila is perfectly capable at destroying opponents
>>723802437Fighting games have less gameplay than gacha thoughbeit
>>723802378wait where is snake
Anila was never so bad that you couldn't win anything with her.Unless you want to be on the big EVO-stage, there is no reason to lament her standing on the tierlists.Vikala, however
>>723803172There was only 2024 tierlists.. I haven't played in almost a year anyway
>>723803178My wife is not bad!
>>723802108unless you're competing at evo for money, does it actually matter how bad your character is? Sure, you might lose to worse players carried by better characters, but that's just more practice for you to get better. Fighting games are all about the journey and self-improvement. The skill ceiling is high enough that even if you played the most op character in the roster, you'd still run into people that will dumpster you effortlessly.
she just got buffed you retard sheepgooner and she was fine before the buffs as ryazo had demonstratedget your dick out of your hands and play training mode for 10 minutes
>>723803359Based.
>>723802616Her unique low she poke with from almost mid screen is so slow/has such a bad hurtbox it's punishable on block for some characters. Her DP has such a puny hitbox most of the times you're better off doing down H. Some parts of her kit are so badly designed I don't understand what they were thinking, especially compared to the higher tiers.
Wife strong, can’t relate.
>has one of the best 2Us in the game>has some of the best DPs in the game>still complains about the 2U and DPsyou can't be real man
>>7238040752U is a low damage poke that only catches gorillas in Silver who will never block low. How is it good?
>>723802108They just buffed her, and not insignificantly either. And even before the buffs, she wasn't "utter shit", merely on the lower end. If you want to play an actual bad character who the devs barely acknowledge, you pick the rat.
>>723802108I typically gravitate to low tier characters. People noticed and asked why.
If I lose, it's her faultIf I win, I'm stronger than you
>>723804609There is a bit of psychological warfare to it>if you lose you can cope and blame it on them being metafags carried by stronger characters>if you win you can taunt them for losing to a weak characterIts the same playground trick as beating up or getting beat up by a girl. The low tier cope is something we learn at a young age.
>Anila patchnotes>• Ramification: Start-up has been increased (15F to 19F).>• Ramification (Follow-Up): Start-up has been reduced (15F to 11F). Ramification into its follow-up is now a true blockstring.>Ramification's follow up is still -6 on blockCan some FGC head explain this to me? Ramification into the follow up is a true block string, which means the opponent can't interrupt it, but it's still negative on block and punishable after it hits so you would never want to go into the follow up if your opponent is blocking, because Ramification on its own is only -2 on block. They also made Ramification worse by increasing the start up. What's the point of this change? Am I stupid?
>>723802108Sorry, their homos must be at permanent tier 0.
>>723802378Worse Zodiac is the brown one, no one wanted her.
>>723802108I haven't played since launch but I remember her moveset being very basic and beginner-ish. I don't feel like it's a good idea to like super buff a character like that to the point where they could reasonably top 3 evo when their gameplan is so basic (you probably could if your fundies were immaculate)
i fucking hate ladivafuck rps characters
>>723805290Rising just doesn't like defensive shotos, so they made Katalina an ultra-rushdown like everyone else and gave Anila more tools to be aggressive as well.
Post more tits
>>723805449>fuck fighting game characters
>>723805541Kill yourself beggar
>>723805589>neutral skips you>guard crush you>rps u>repeat
>>723802108Pick a top tier.
>>723805143The change is that ramification is now a safe on block combo tool where you do the follow up on hit and can loop it into 6k+ damage near the cornerramification used to be a really really shitty rps that anila would do where if you caught the opponent, you would do 500 damage and if they blocked the follow up you would eat 5000 damage. Now is a really good combo extender that allows her to combo off of a lot of things.
>>723805143The reason you don't understand is that you ignored the rest of ramification's changes that you didn't write up in your post.
>>723804609"There should be more to fighting games than subjecting your opponent to a top tier's degenerate offense/defense that locks down their possible response options just so you can see the victory screen more often".
>>723805530>Modern game is unga bungaSounds about right. Their strongest zoner has a fucking DP lmao.
wtf I'm Welsh now
>>723807087>The change is that ramification is now a safe on block combo toolBut it was always safe on block if you didn't do the follow up. What's the point of making Ramification into follow up a "true blockstring" if it going into the follow up on block is punishable?
>>723808126so you have to hitconfirm you retard
>>723807196No I get that Ramification is better for combos now, what I don't specifically get is >>723808126>>723808220What the fuck are you talking about, you always had to hit confirm! Do you know what blockstring means??
>>723802108Did you miss the last patch or something? She's good now
>>723802378You are a gigantic faggot
>>723802108>Shit in the gacha>Shit in the fighting game>Not in Relink at allHeh
>>723802108Risings low tiers are still functional compared to other games low tiers. The game doesn't invalidate you playing Anila outside of your own feeling of powerlessness compared to others in the cast.Not to mention people will look at a characters buffs that help them in one specific area and now deem that character as good. Anila got some nice changes, but she's still an all round middle of the roster character in strength, probably closer to the bottom than top.
>Zoners are supposedly top tier in this game>The Rat is bottom tier>Her entire kit is just throwing stuff at youhuh?
>>723810472And thank god for that. Fuck having another cunt like Ferry or Metera to deal with.
>>723802378Worst Zoodiac is objectively Rabbit. Even the people who liked her got burned when she became a blatant writer’s OC’s cumslut instead of showing any acknowledgment of (You).
>>723802108It’s highly doubtful you’re at the level where the tier list actually matters. Unless you’re going to tournaments and wanting to win, play who you want.
>>723802108She looks so soft bros...
even after the buff anila still is shit
Anila posting
Bigger breasted Draphs in the game when?
>>723802108KUHUHU This should have been the summer Battle Pass skin desu
>>723808370can't you use it while spaced so that it's safe on block? if I recall, my character's fL won't hit at the exact 6th frame from max range
i luv sheep
>>723813905The only time I will ever spend money on DLC for this game is if Anila gets a beach costume
>>723808370>What the fuck are you talking about, you always had to hit confirm! Do you know what blockstring means??do you know what hitconfirm mean?The old ramification was just a shitty frametrap tool, you didn't have to hitconfirm it because it automatically created a gap where it would hit the opponent if they mashed, now if don't hitconfirm, you are just doing an unsafe special because it can't catch mashingThe fact that you are even confused on how this is a huge buff for anila pretty much tells me you are probably fucking retarded and they could make sheep the most broken character in the game and you would still be dogshit with her.
>>723814312It's -6, so maybe
>>723804997Damn, im 30+ and I still love to get beat up by girls. It gives me a boner now and it doesnt really hurt because they are girls
>>723802108Then you get the buff that no one ever labbed or knows the matchup against your character and you get away with the most retarded gimmicks.
>>723814827Do you mean Ramification, or Ramification's follow up? Ramification's follow up would hit the opponent if they mashed, but now it doesn't? Wouldn't it still hit them if they mash even if the gap is smaller? You guys are terrible at explaining this.
>>723814719I accepted the Galleon costume as a decent apology because she is incredibly HOLY too but yes, Summer Sheep needs to happen.
>>723812452>>723814423>>723815160>slop
i have been playing her since launch and i still continue to play her
>>723815794>sheeplop
>>723815794YES
>>723803890retardconfirm your hits (that means responding correctly on block too)
>>723803890*66Hs this post*
>>723802108Anon, they just buffed Anila a LOT this month. She's still not top tier but she's probably mid-tier around Charlotta and Gran. I won't forgive these devs for murdering her 236U but letting Lowain 236U stay in the game more than a year and counting after
>>723816683she's nowhere close to being as good as 2-toucher Gran
>>723816445>Confirm into your 2U from mid screenWhat did he mean by this
>>723816789214U
>>723804075The 2U complaints are legit, having such a long low seems great but you understand why sheep mains complain when you consider she doesn't have an ordinary sweep. Usually when a character doesn't have a fast sweep their 2M is made a low to compensate but Anila's 2M hits mid, so she's missing any kind of fast low besides her stubby 2L
>>723816546I will admit spamming this shit carried me all through D to A rank.
I want Anila 2-touch me...
>>723816939this. in master rank if i ever press 2U it just gives my opponent a free jump in 100% of the time. especially in the corner
>>723816859I feel like you can do something better other than 2U after landing 214U since you have like a gorillion frames of hitstun.
>>723816995It's pretty fucking good, easy to space in order to make it safe as well.
>>723817164I misread your post.2U -> hit confirm -> 214U2U -> block confirm -> spot dodge
>>723817569Assuming you're at max range, will spot dodge beat any retaliation from your opponent?
>>723802378She got long hair, handles on her head and massive tits, nothing can possibly top this.
>>723802108you realize you're not at pro level and therefore tiers should not matter to you
>good thread topic>lust provoking imageman... so close to a real thread
>>723815794AI? WHAT THE FUCK? I got this.>>723812452>>723816293FAGGOT! PAY AN ARTIST!!!!!
>>723818037Why do people parrot this shit so confidently every single time? Especially in Granblue where none of the high tier characters are particularly hard to use.I agree OP should still play whoever he wants and I agree the low tiers in Granblue are perfectly usable but people really need to stop this "tiers... only matter at le pro level!" shit. >>723818159>actual game discussion with some cute/hot Sheep pics thrown into the mixIt's a great thread actually.
I'd love to play this game but the combos are just so long and boring. Cool, I got hit so I have to watch this long ass combo ended with a super animation at the end which burns another 6-7 seconds. Fuck off
>>723818454They're already pretty short for fighting games tho
>>723818573I'm just not cut out for the genre then
did they add Yaia yet
I like this character.
>>723818642The only game you can play is Samurai Shodown, but it's dead.
>>723818454>>723818642I do not mind the combos themselves but I do wish the SSBA animation only played out fully when it will do enough damage to kill, so I partially agree with you.
>>723818795>3 fucking neutral skipsso obnoxious
>>723818795That character is a metaphor for (YOU) the player
>>723819184What exactly do you think a neutral skip is?
>>723819020Counterpoint: I want to see this every time.
>>723819894You know what, fair.Meg is hot as fuck and Mari looks cute holding that shark bazooka thing. That one gets a pass.
>>723819894oh hey it's Noise from nikke
>>723804060That's a old man.
>>723820649Magical transformations do not countIf there's a womb it's a woman
>>723821313...IS there one?
>>723822120Are you doubting the greatest alchemist?
>>723819564>jumps at you from full screen>slides at you from full screen >calls shark at you from full screen
>>723818314because tiers are created based on top level play which you do not have
Wish I didn't suck at playing her
>>723802108You stop being a little bitch
>>723822842low IQ take.
>>723818454Nigga the combo limit in this game is disgustingly low
>>723823684But that's objectively how tier lists are made for FG
>>723822932
>Want to go back playing BBCF again >Remember i have to do FT10s against the same guy thanks to the godawful room system
>Give character a tool that solely exists to crossup people>give everyone a button that lets them guard left and right at the same timewhat were they thinking? also did they ever fix this? i haven't really touched the game since the patch that added Zooey.
>>723824570It's still obnoxious as fuck.
>>723824691its not an overhead and thanks to block button its not a crossup, what's the issue anon?
>>723802108Isnt one of the few auto comboers that didnt shat the bed tho? That has to mean something
>>723824570could be worse
>>723824819It's a plus on block throwbait that can also make your moves whiff into nothingness. Not a crossup my arse, you know how many times she ended up behind me and making my parry fail?
POV: you are about to get hit by a plus on block neutral skip that does almost 3000 damage
>>723825261so green is hurtbox and red is hitbox, but what's the grey box?
>>723825331>walk forward two inches>move whiffsAnd you're playing a character with a DP in that image too, it's slow as fuck why are you getting hit by it
>>723825363My penis.
>>723825363i don't know what you'd call it but it's the space that the character occupies
>>723802108Tier list doesnt matter at your skill level
>>723825538>tits outside the grey boxyou gay son?
>>723822842>>723823792Yeah that's real cool and all but frame data and raw damage do not change based on your skill level. Some characters WILL dominate at literally every level, this is not a controversial take.
>>723825363>>723825546Pushbox
>>723825597Tier lists matter at every level, please shut the fuck up.
>>723825650But players' ability to handle stuff does change, just because a character is a noob stomper in low ranks doesn't mean they're a top tier, likewise a high execution that noobs struggle to do anything with could be a top tier in comp.
>>723824570I thought most Narmayas used this one to bait out anti-airs and fraud out people that way.
>>723825734No they don't lol, unless you're a professional or a local player they don't fucking mean anythingCHEESY characters mean something to lower end players but those can be prevented by just being better at countering them, you don't need a tier list for that.
>>723825812Are you acting obtuse on purpose or do you just not play Rising? >>723825946OK retard.
>>723825973Concession accepted. Retard.
>>723825946this. its why grappler characters are hated by newbies despite always being shit at comp level.
>>723825946low IQ take
>damage off 1 random fullscreen plus on block neutral skip
>>723826230>SeoxThat dude is made of paper. And so is Meg.
>>723826028>yeah bro, Bea is SUPER complicated and hard to play, only EVO champions could possibly take advantage of her gorilla buttons, great specials and high damage>yeah bro, 2B is ALSO super hard to use, look at all those specials she has! only 300 IQ players could make use of them, her giant buttons, double jump and air stallYou are so fucking dumb, it is genuinely amazing.
>>723802108I was always interested in Granblue Versus because of the tiddy sheep, but I ignored it because for some reason I thought it was a chinese gacha series with a japanese developed spinoff. I googled it after this thread and found out it's actually a Japanese franchise, so I'm going to buy it. Is it better than Jive? Because I thought Jive was kinda shit.
Got my ass beat by a dude maining Lunalu earlier. We ran into each other in casual match multiple times and I lost 0-10. This game sucks and I was not planning to grind it, was just playing on a whim, but that shit got me angry enough that I’ve been thinking about it all day and am considering grinding game just to beat him. And I still think the game is ass.
>>723826591It's fun, it feels more grounded and closer to SF but still with enough anime bullshit to be interesting. Though I'm not too big on the universal mechanics added with Rising.
>>723826591>Is it better than Jive?Nigga anything is better than Jive
>>723826841SFV is excellent.Comparing Rising to any Street Fighter is kind of a moot point, I understand Vanilla felt like "anime Street Fighter" but Rising sure as fuck doesn't.It's not quite anime fighter levels of degeneracy with most characters anyway, but it left Street Fighter territory some time ago.Then again, from what I see, """Street Fighter""" 6 is quite full of bullshit so maybe Rising is close to that, idk
>>723818454jesus man the average combo in this game is so short alreadyjust think of it as your respawn timer or killcam after dying in an FPS
>>723826841>>723827108I meant to type strive but I typed jive, I've been arguing about sf a lot lately so it just kinda came out
>>723827254kekWell, I personally enjoy Rising a lot more than Strive but that may or may not be because I never bothered to learn Strive properly, I just fucked around in Tower for a bit playing May, who I do like a lot. I think the one advantage that Strive has over this game is that different characters truly do feel more different from each other than the ones in Granblue. At first glance, many characters in Granblue feel pretty same-y. This gets better once you learn them more deeply and start truly optimizing their shit, but I still think that Strive did character variety better as a whole. This is both a good and a bad thing because I think the cancer characters in Strive are a LOT more cancer to play against than the ones in Granblue.
>>723826591>I was always interested in Granblue Versus because of the tiddy sheep, but I ignored it because for some reason I thought it was a chinese gacha series with a japanese developed spinoff.Up until this point and reading this sentence, I believed the same. Was thinking "wtf does OP mean by fighting game, isn't Granblue a gachashit?"
>>723802108sheep sex
>>723826841>>723827108>>723827254People don't mean Strive when they type Jive?
>>723829098No. Where did you get that idea?
>>723829161It's not always clear which fighting game people are vagueposting about in /v/ threads. Is what I'd like to say, but I may be stupid.
>>723829331jive = street shitter fivesoive = guilty queer strive
>>723829403"soive" seems giga forced. how are you even meant to pronounce that?
>>723802378Listen here you little shite, goat and sheep bonnie lasses should be respected and appreciated at all times.Even the demon ones.
to be frank, SFV hasn't been relevant for 2+ years at this point, and the only other game on the market with "-IVE" in it's name is Strive, so it's an understandable mistake for someone unfamiliar with naming conventions on /v/ fgc threads
so what did sheep get in her buff? I only ever got to s++ with her
>>7238305305UU can link into cM now and they replaced 22M with her old 22U so you can do a little more midscreen corner carry now. there's also some other little things like a slight increase to 214L/M's speed
>>723815794If you want me to believe slop is bad then show me who's regularly making Uno fanartThere's one guy on pixiv who makes 3-4 pieces per year and that's it. I haven't taken the sloppill yet but I'm tempted
>>723831397i can understand it if a character gets pretty much nothing otherwise or if it actually looks good
This is still the most soulful fighting game.
>>723802108You don't play the game and just jack off to the character and shit post in threads
>>723832662I haven't kept up with it. I had a good time for a while
>>723832776I'm playing right now. Trying out Meg at the moment
>>723832868Meg is a ton of fun. And she's hot as fuck.
For me only.
>>723829501Because it was forced by /vg/ schizos or equivalent adjacents mad about the game for this or that reason. Still remember retards who pretended to be kof fans using it.Also it's just the word that got spammed to the point of being filtered site wide but a v sound at the end I guess.
Is 2B still terrorizing this game or has she been nerfed out of existence
>>723832662Too bad it's too anime (the icky kind for most mainstream) that no one seems to know about it. Browsing any other FGC forum, it surprises me how many times people are like "Yo what game is this?" whenever media of Granblue comes up. If you aren't Street Fighter or Tekken, people probably think you are just Strive.
>>723834650She has been nerfed a while back. Maybe even gotten a slight buff in the meantime, I don't remember. You really don't face her as often anymore. She has become quite manageable, but is still annoying to fight.
>>723829501>"soive" seems giga forcedIt really is, yeah.I say this as someone who doesn't even like the game that much, it's just a shitty unimaginative nickname desu
>>723834650I cannot tell you specifically what they've changed about her but as a whole she feels more manageable, yes.Her double jump and air stall are still horseshit though, that's the one thing that still pisses me off about her.
>>723824570>214H>Crossup toolYou really gotta get above S Rank before you can post stuff like this
>>723830530Get some fundamentals and mastering sheep becomes easy.
>>723834650She's been nerfed into being fine. Some of her tools are still obnoxious but they cut her skill gauge recovery in half and her meter build still sucks dick so the character is fine now.
>>723824570I had Narmaya in top 10 of my tier list for a long time solely because of her flip (though power creep has recently pushed her out). It's a throw bait, low crush, pressure reset and the ult version can even bait pokes and DPs while still being plus. Narmaya can autopilot extremely hard with this move to great success
>>723834650>>723837683They JUST heavily buffed her in the Wilnas patch, fuck offEven the "nerf" from a while back gave her a tool to combo off throw, one stronger than Eustace's while also being easier to use
Danchou's farmCow in Rising when?
>>723823550Yuel is good thougheverbeitly
i left right around 2B release but managed to get Charlotte and Cagliostro to rank A as a complete shitter, are there enough shitters like me left to get back in without getting completely demolished instantly?the new characters look fun
>>723838775Going from D or C is tough since there's not a lot there. I can get matches pretty easily at around this time (NA east) with my A rank characters.
>>723838727I know, I main her in VS and she's been on my team in the gacha since I started playing it a decade ago
>>723839353She's all ears...
>>723838775Rank has been heavily inflated to the point that S+ is the new AYou might not find games super quick until you get to S+ but after that it will be steady. A lot of players will be Master ranks using Meg for the first time though since she just released
>>723838775Just got back into the game myself, been finding games fairly fast even at B5 rank
They knew exactly what they were doing with Meg's poses.
>>723842104>>723842164Cammy function?
>>723842382More like Temu Ragna the Bloodedge with ghetto pseudo assist
>>723802108They literally JUST buffed her you ungrateful fuck
>>723838965>>723841495>>723842025thanks, i'll get back to the lab, beatrix looks fun
>>723843602She's pretty braindead but fun to play, have fun anon
>>723843578They didn't buff her tits so it's not enough
>>723844126>he wants Anila to have even BIGGER titsYour greed sickens me...
>>723825734Shut the fuck up you fucking retardTier Lists dont matter at the lower level because you are NOT utilizing the character's maximum potential, which is what conventional tier lists are based on.Now if you wanna make a cheese/noob tier lists for lower skill levels then sure, but that's something entirely different.
>>723844580OK retard.
>>723844872Concession accepted
I only play this game to get thigh-choked by Galleon
>>723845194Holy based.They really did a splendid job with her.
>>723845023OK, so help me understand exactly HOW retarded you are. Imagine 2 A rank players fighting each other during Beatrix release week. One of them is playing Beatrix (a character that consistently performed well at literally every rank) and the other is playing Yuel (a character that consistently underperformed) Both are A rank so neither of them is using their character to the fullest. Does the Bea player not have ANY advantage over the Yuel player?
>>723845543>The thud she makes if she misses and hits the groundI just wish the move wasn't so ass heh because people hardly even try to use it
>>723802108https://youtu.be/-EqaVS2qFw0?si=fmvQfmrviIdH7OSx
>>723844580You can argue tier lists might be different at different levels of play, but they absolutely do EXIST. Some characters simply ARE overall better in ways that can be exploited even by intermediate or beginner players. Look at 1.0 Nier who could do 50% to your healthbar just by landing a DP and doing a very simple volleyball combo that alternates between a normal and a special. You didn't have to be Zippy to have a huge advantage with that character. Meanwhile bottom tiers generally have fewer gimmicks, fewer setups for mix, worse reward, worse defensive options etc. which add up to requiring much more effort to win than a braindead top tier like 1.0 Nier or current Vaseraga, where you just do the one thing that wins you matches and your opponent has to work way harder and use a limited array of options to play around that. Tiers exist at all levels of play.
>>723846348>low level player>playing a puppet characterHAHAHHAAH YOU ARE A RETARD
>>723846670Anon, pressing 6+S+H, canceling it into 2+S+H, and then alternating between c.H and 2+S+H is something someone playing a fighting game for the first time ever could do after 20 minutes of tutoring. Not all fighting game puppet characters are equally hard (I actually dislike "puppet character" when the term is used like an archetype; it's like saying "charge character" is an archetype when both Guile and Balrog could be described as that but are opposites in gameplay) and 1.0 Nier was so easy that people who couldn't get to S+ with their main could get to Master with Nier
>>723846979Anon, this retard does not play Rising, and if he does he certainly did not play release Nier.He's fucking dumb and talking out of his ass, stop trying to reason with it.
>>723846670Anon it's Granblue. There's no such thing as a character too hard for low level players.
>>723846979You are completely delusionalYou are behaving exactly like Justin Wong recommending SFV Luke to those Twitch e-celebs during their meme triathlon gaming tournament or whatever the fuck it was where they competed in multiple games.99% of those morons didnt know the first thing about fighting games but oh wait Luke's the best character right now so I must pick him right?! when they really should have been playing an even lower IQ character that was even more mash friendly.
>>723847325I hope you are acting obtuse on purpose and that you are not genuinely this fucking stupid because holy shit.
>>723847402>Zero argument AGAINWow, why not just ram your skull into a concrete wall at this point?
>>723846014kek yes, that sound effect is very nice, and the animation is cute too but at the same time, it being like fucking 60 frames long is a bit too much. I understand why it can be avoided by ducking but fuck man, I wish it wasn't. As it is, actually landing it requires a massive read.
>>723846670>>723847325Siegfried was also busted as fuck when Rising released. Not "on a tier of his own" like Nier, but still retarded strong. What's the cope for that one?
>>723847637I wonder if the move would even be that good if it could hit crouchers. It's still probably the easiest anti air check in the game and it shares a cooldown with command grab which is infinitely more valuable.
>>723848197That's a good point... even if it could hit crouching opponents, the threat of counter hit anti-air is still there, I think it would still be a fair move. Wait, how does the air to ground command grab interact with jumping opponents? Do they get grabbed?
>>723848551It can catch opponents as an air to air. There are stray combos here and there that uses it as an air ender. If you make it hit crouchers, interrupting it or getting out of the way become the only options
>>723848129Can confirm t. former Sieg shitter
>>723848717The best solution would be to just turn her ground grab into something like this. The dragon arms are cool, but I want to see her thighs being weaponized.
>>723850921Move her normal throw a few feet up and you're basically already there
>>723851295Pretty much kek
>>723849098Pretty sure Seigfried is still good. I've been trying to rise through the ranks with multiple characters and Seigfried was by far the easiest so far. My winrate was through the roof and I didn't have to learn anything complex or anything.
>>723847325Anon, I'll give you the benefit of the doubt and assume you didn't play this game until after 1.5 when Nier got completely reworked. Nier was not only the strongest character in the game but also the EASIEST in the game by far.The reason puppet characters are considered to be hard to play on average is because they often contain multiple of the following: high execution requirements, character-specific resource management, positioning the puppet sometimes requiring manual control of it, and dealing with a disadvantaged state when the puppet isn't available. Nier in 1.0 had NONE of these weaknesses.Nier could use the same one-button specials as everyone else, and could launch the opponent for a looping two-hit combo midscreen when most characters in that patch struggled doing any meterless midscreen combo more complex than poke into special. Her execution was easier than most characters AND more rewarding1.0 Nier had no resource management in most rounds. Unlike the current Nier who loses Death and has her put on a scaling cooldown based on how often Nier used her, 1.0 Nier only suffered a ~1 second pause when Death got hit, lost fewer of her 13 stocks when using an H special or special-to-special cancel, and lost ZERO stocks when doing an L or M special. Nier's puppet cost literally ZERO resources to perform a basic special and killed so quickly that even if you repeatedly did special-to-special strings the opponent would usually die before you ran out, at which point you had to wait 12 seconds, in a game with a universal 66L and a very strong guard cancel, so not that hard. Nier also had no cooldowns on her H specials, meaning she had LESS resource management than mostNier's puppet does not need to be summoned or placed. It spawns in front of Nier, and some specials teleport it back to Nier at the start.As mentioned Nier always had Death on hand, anywhere on the screen, and could use a special when Death wasn't onscreenIn all ways Nier was easy
>>723851531Even after all the bullshit that has been added and changed to this game, I'm pretty sure he's still somewhere in the top 10, yes.
>>723851823Nier also had the best normals in the entire game when she didn't have Death out. Because obviously the best character in the game when the puppet is out should also be one of the best characters in the game when the puppet isn't out.
>Granblue has been alive since 2019I don't know if Granblue is still alive because it's good or because the parent company just really really likes fighting games and keeps pouring money into it despite revenue losses. I haven't seen this longevity outside of big franchises like Street Fighter and Tekken. I'm pretty sure Granblue has outlived like 2 Mortal Kombats.
>>723852727It's actually pretty good for a modern fighting game. I enjoy it way more than Tekken 8 or SF6 for example
I wish Tekken 8 was good...
>>723854541whats wrong with it, genuinely curious
>>723854724All modern fighters favor offense and keep giving characters myriads of plus on block shit, Tekken 8 went a little bit too hard with it even compared to other modern fighters.To be fair, I should have said "I wish Tekken 8 was better" as I can still stomach it, but I can perfectly understand why some people don't.
>>723852727To be fair this is GBVS Rising, a full sequel that happens to use the same assets. It wasn't a free update to the original and it plays pretty different due to all the mechanical differences and balance updates. It launched as a $50 game so Cygames got their money's worth from its sales.Nobody's sure if Rising will get a third season of DLC or not; there's data for one character not in the current season pass (Id) but we don't know if he'll be the start of Season 3 or one last a la carte character to close the game, like how vanilla GBVS had two seasons of DLC and then two a la carte characters in Vira and the semiclone Avatar Belial. Relink sold way more than Rising but didn't have a long shelf life so who knows what this publisher is thinking
>>723855329I'm gonna be fucking pissed if season 2 is the last season. I still need EX variants for my mains...
>>723855329Versus feels like a passion project, I like to think that the Horse game is making them enough money and that FKHR likes Rising enough to push for a third season, even if it's not particularly profitable, or profitable at all.
>>723855509Once EX Uno drops I'm going to become the knowledge check master, people already don't know what normal Uno does after two years, imagine how much you would fuck someone up bringing Uno to a FT2 tournament set, winning game 1, losing game 2 and swapping to the other Uno with a completely different set of specials
>>723855607>people already don't know what normal Uno does after two yearsYup, that's me
>>723855607kekDevilish
>>723855556They just want to make actual video games, their gachas are just a money making machine to fund them
>>723855704>relink was lightning in a bottle>tons of players and extremely high player retention>everyone wants more content>adds a few characters post-release>stop working on the game>it completely fizzles and dies outi have nothing but contempt for cygames and their mismanagement of granblue.im not saying it should've been genshin 2.0 or anything like that, but an expansion dlc or fucking anything would've kept the gravy rollingthey had 0 faith in relink and just wanted to shit it out and move on
>>723856047There's nothing wrong with making a finished game instead of an infinite DLC cashgrab
>>723856047you fags always ignore relink taking almost a decade to even finish, not even cygames wanted to keep working on it its a blessing it even released.
>>723855607I've been playing ranked for almost 60 hours and I've literally never run into anyone using that little dude at all. I'm starting to think he doesn't exist.
>>723855607Your rahkshasshshsa sphear and instant plus frame divekick don't scare me.
Tier lists only matter for like the top 1% of players and even then people still win tournaments with characters that are not deemed the best. If shit players had their own tier list for any fighting game it would be completely different. It is midwit behavior to obsess over tier lists and really the overbalancing constantly patching nature of modern fighting games makes people not want to play
>>723856191>finished gameit was a really fun game but still fairly rough around the edges and had some visible seams. a couple more updates or something like iceborne could've left it in an amazing state and cemented it as a timeless classic>>723856312i know about the dev hell but pushing something out the door means it's that much easier to build on it
WAN BATTAN DE KANTAN HISATTSUUUUuuuuUUUUUU...
>GBF>cool setting with cool art >fanservice for girls and boys >shit dead games with great animation and graphicsCursed franchise
>>723857602Relink 2 will save us... Trust the plan....
Tier list based on how hard it was to get to masters.Also I just got cag to masters and I'd place her in Average
>>723856569A broken character can be broken even if not played perfectly
>>723858314You have to be mentally disabled to have such a hard time with those characters.
>>723858314Damn I remember brown dragon girl being really good. I assume she got mega nerfed.
>>723858471she's always been mid tier. recent patch buffed the shit out of her
>>723802108just 66L more bro
>>723857991Relink 2 never ever after the shit they went through with the development cycle.
>>723858471Zoi went from having pretty much no combos at all and was just suppose to poke people to death or hope they got hit by M/H dragon, to having actual corner combos, to now having midscreen combos that carry into the corner
>>723858575platinum scammed everybody and funneled their money to nintendothats why nobody is hiring them nowremember scalebound?
>>723858951>remember scalebound?the game where microsoft demanded late in development that it get turned into 4 player coop games-as-a-service slop and then shitcanned it?no
>>723802108Lose I don't play Enkidu but I always find people using him online and I win 90% of the time, even against people who are clearly way better than me.
>>723859148its a pattern niggerlook at relink. theres a reason cygames said fuck you to platinum and literally stopped hiring them midway through development
Oh hi, I upgraded your Rat.
>>723802108/gbvsg/ get's monthly raped by a guy playing her in their tourneys. You can win with any character if you're good enough and not playing at fucking EVO.
>>723858930It is funny that she went from having her only midscreen combo being raging strike into autocombo into special to being able to go corner to corner
I really like this game, but I want the real big meaty and season 3. Why do they ingore this game so much?
>>723865215Why is Silence Suzuka so mean...
>>723865075you could already do most of that before the buff
Who else satisfied chilling in the upper to mid tiers with your main?
Fighting again? Don't you know the saying: "The more you fight, the more TEYAH MRS. ZOOEY TEYAH!"
>>723865075zooey is cool, too bad she's trapped in a bad arcsys fighter.
>>723867337Me but it also happens against Narmaya and Galleon outfits
>your main in a fighting game is utter shit Win anyway, retard.
>>723865950>blocks your path
>>723802108Anila thread? Bless
>>723868871Another case of a nerfed character that still feels strong.No idea how to pressure and get close to her when her normals are this massive and not even slow as well.
>>723802108Granblue tranny shill thread Relink flopped The fighting games floppedImagine shilling for a woke fujo homo dev like cygames
The supposed woke game in question.
