>>723817362I think The Visitor was the least interesting aspect of this gameI feel like the apartment and eldritch mutations were more interesting
>>723818496you're a small minded retard I guess, basically
>>723818809Sounds like cope
>>723818809he's right, nothing interesting comes after interacting with it anyway.Having an entire game take place in an apartment complex was much more interesting
>>723817362When's the next damn update? I NEED hardmode
Is that a.... A GIANT SLUG? AHHHH MY MIND IS EXPLODING I CAN'T TAKE IT!!!
>>723817362That's only like 1/∞ of his full form
>>723819247right sentiment to enter this thread and enjoy the game because it defeats this purpose
I'm looking forward to my 2.0 playthrough, I missed so much shit the first go around and I made the mistake of recruiting those punk rock assholes. Playing this game makes me wish the Sweet Home adaptation hadn't been so fucking hilariously garbage.
>>723820070I might do an evil/failed ritual playthrough and just kill people that I feel like killing next timeI missed Audrey and Leigh, missed some games, missed out on Creep and he got mutated>>723822487>mutates into an abomination>is very sweet and kind regardless
I hope normal mode gets some new content too
>>723819247If the attention of a being whose size is measured in light years were fixed on you, it would be weird if there wasn't some effects. We're talking about the observer effect in quantum physics, it's like that multiplied by septillions or some such nonsense of times.
>>723828554I do like the game calling attention to the Visitor possibly being where the concept of a god came from once or twice
>>723817362It's big. Real big.
>>723822487>>723823913>>723825969>>723828336
>>723829782my wife btw
>>723829720xboxhueg
>>723830054
>>723830678WHAT THE FUCK NO!
>>723817362why the FUCK is every achievement hidden
>>723819247Of course your mind is exploding when you're suddenly trying to perceive light years worth of visual stimulus all at once
>>723820070>someone else read Sweet Homebased
Anybody well versed in cosmic horror literature ever seen one of these scenarios,1. People just don't really give a shit about a cosmic being. Either due to it not having an effect on their daily lives or both humanity and the creature being blase with each other.2. Cosmic being just being a chill or cool dude rather than a trickster or playing with mortal life.3. The cosmic being being of good moral character but inadvertantly causing destruction in its wake. Like it doesn't intend to make a civilisation go insane4. Living creatures drilling into cosmic beings and viewing their interior like the film "fantastic oyage"
>>723819247it's an endless fractal slug
I'll probably replay it. Although I already got the best ending on my first run unfortunately. Hard mode was too easy (apparently not so after 2.0) and I had WAY too many days left to fuck about and figure things out by the time I could explore the whole map.
What if cosmic horror, but instead of the monster being unfathomably large, it would be unfathomably small and numerous? Like breaking the laws of physics kind of small and as numerous as ants to the power of ten.
>>723830054MY wife
>>723829720that is just sillywhat it is even doing with our sun at that scale, it would be like us getting really really interested in a microbe on a grain of rice
>>723817362Sam was such a dumb bitch.>AHHH I CAN'T MENTALLY PICTURE A BEING AS LARGER THAN OUR SUN, EVEN THOUGH IT'S COMMON KNOWLEDGE THEIR ARE STARS BILLIONS OF TIMES BIGGER THAN OUR SUN. I'M LOOSING MY MIND!!!I would have been fine, I would have comprehended the visitors lovecraftian size easily. Even hit him with a "you're a big guy"
>>723837110The point is that it is an unimaginable and impossible creature that can change reality by merely seeing things, and it's interested in humanity because in however the fuck long it lived, we're the first depiction of sentience it has ever seen in the universe. Honestly one of my favorite depictions of a niggerman type monster.
>>723833912Good ideas transcend limited engines, just like they did generations ago on limited hardware.
>>723829720lmao
>>723819579wtf did apu look outside....
>>723819089>Having an entire game take place in an apartment complex was much more interesting>>723818881
>>723833234Isn't this game an example of 1, 2, and 3
>>723837614It wasn't a matter of comprehension, it was a matter of the Visitor being stupid and trying to link senses with a brain too small and primitive to simulate its perception. If the Visitor had just transmitted a picture it might not have been so bad.
>>723841080Yes but 2 and 3 are spoilers
>>723817362I think your vastly overestimating how crazy your cool huge body is visitor...
>>723841305>he Visitor being stupid and trying to link senses with a brain too small and primitive to simulate its perceptionoooooh that's why everyone turned into handlimbfinger monstersthis thread was major spoilers for me, damn...
>>723841464oh no, that's just what happens when it looks at people and people look at it
What game is this?
>>723817362When is he adding the spine marriage ending?
>>723841894Look Outside
>>723822487>>723829782Jeanne LOVE
>>723829720>Stop masturbating
>>723833234I've seen 2, 3, and 4 plenty of times. 1 kind of depends on what scale you're looking for.
>>723842784Bloodborne sort of does option 1. You can't see the Amygdala sitting on the roof of the Oedon Chapel until you have a certain level of insight, for example.
>>723842784examples of 4 ?
>>723843027I was considering that, but does it count if most people have no idea that the eldritch horrors exist? Whenever they gain enough insight to finally notice, they go crazy.
>>723843103I'm trying to recall actual video games, but I recall this image, that Flesh Pit horror series, and this one series of animated shorts I am forgetting.
>>723843238that's pretty radI wish there was one where people use a dead niggerman body as some kind of spacefaring vessel. That sounds cool as fuck
>>723843347I know that there are some settings that have organic ships, but I don't recall any where it's the corpse of some ancient dead god.
>>723843530does using the head of a transcended human being as a supercomputer count?
>>723843792Not quite, but still cool
>>723843792I'd say it counts if it's not a human.On a similar note, I recall a short story doujin that briefly showed super computers being run using dragon skulls due to some whacky magic. I always thought that was cool.
Can I get a qrd on any new content for Jeanne since the very early days?>>723843103Sniffs of it in Dead Space 3 when you're navigating the Nexus and such
>>723844024You can give her her laundry back now
>>723844024>>723844249and you can talk to her again the day after giving her her laundry for some new dialogue
>>723844249>>723844570
>>723817362>YOUR MOTHER IS SO FAT, ONE ENDING IS DEDICATED TO HER
I played the game for the first time last week. Glad to see so many people also like Jeanne.
>>723844972
Does anyone have a pic of Jeanne with the jacket and glasses?
>>723844972https://archiveofourown()org/works/65143810Here, read this
>>723817362i want full tour endosoma with them
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>>723833485h o t>>723846638holy fuck theyrer perfect
>>723845470>>723844570>>723829720>>723828336>>723825969yesss
>>723846542Here you go
>>723846542>>723847165Part 2
>>723833234>Some people are very upset about the cosmic entity squatting in the middle of the city, due to it stealing the city from the surface of the Earth, but most don't give a shit because it's just there and so long as you don't try to read the burning symbols on its skin (which will drive you mad) it doesn't do anything (directly)>the lesser cosmic beings it employs to deal with humans have their own agendas and relationships with people, and they're not overly fond of their employer themselves>the greater cosmic being the first one works for is starting to wonder where the fuck it's gotten to>the court of greater cosmic beings the other greater being is subservient to would like to know where the first one is because it's in the middle of some absolutely atrocious cosmic crimes>some people are very, VERY upset about the greater cosmic beings existing at all
>>723817362Idk anything about this but it looks like some eldritch being larger than the fucking sun...What gay-m name? And how does it play?
>>723817362Take your Eternal Doctrine and fuck off!
>>723817362Earth is mine, asshole!
>>723817362>it's le heckin lovecraftian space horror tentacle monster god incomprehensible to the human mind making you go insane!!!I knew that's what the big reveal was going to be and I was still disappointed
>>723850476Genuinely what else could it possibly be
>>723850829Perhaps something less lovecraftian and tentacl-y? Something original for once?
>>723850904Such as?
>>723850925That's the fucking problem, there's nothing. It's always some tentacle faggot from space who makes people go insane because of how ugly he is.
>>723851006I'd argue that the different thing about the Visitor is that it doesn't mean to warp everything that looks at it. It just assumes that's how people usually are.
>>723829720holy fucking shit thats hilarious
>>723829720How does this thing not accidentally bump into the earth and send it drifting away from the sun?That thing is pretty fucking careful and precise for something that massive.
>>723850476lovecraftian horror is all the same these daysyou shouldn't actually see the big bad monster thing because then that "can't comprehend" bullshit goes away immediately because you can comprehend it if you see itif all you saw of it were abstract objects, it would be able to keep the incomprehensible monstrosity aspect but still
>>723842348For what? It is dark out.
>>723851068It's still the same rehashed trope of a space god making people go insane. Though people turning into mutants by looking at it might be original, I don't know.>>723851221You are right, even Lovecraft himself never gave any detailed descriptions of his monsters as far as I can tell. It was always very vague and emphasizing the fact that if you ever saw that thing your brain would overheat and melt from trying to comprehend what this amalgamation of shapes is supposed to convey.The problem lies with the copycats, they just don't get it. You're not supposed to reveal the space god abomination thing, there's meant to be mystery and horror. There is no mystery or horror once you reveal the overgrown octopus flying through space.
none of you are asking the real question; why he did it
>>723851946>It's still the same rehashed trope of a space god making people go insaneAnon, it's cosmic horror. That's part of the genre.
>>723851991It's exclusively cosmic horror, that's the entire genre at this point. It's the same concept with very little variation.
>>723852370it's a big concept with a lot to do, if you're critiquing the genre and not others that is bad faith because it has much more to offer than most
>>723852660I've got no faith left, good or bad. It's over.
>>723837110>it would be like us getting really really interested in a microbe on a grain of ricebut we do get interested in things like that
>>723851970AFAIK he was just passing by, then a certain someone noticed it when looking at the stars in the night sky, the visitor felt it had been noticed by something, and decided to check out the source
>>723837110Imagine if you suddenly became aware that a microbe on a grain of rice was looking at you.
>>723850476What made the reveal cool was the execution and music. I just keeps getting bigger.
>>723837614It shared it's proprioception, aka senses of the body
>>723851946>Lovecraft himself never gave any detailed descriptions of his monsters as far as I can tellt. "I've never actually looked it up and I certainly haven't read any of his work but let me tell you what's wrong with the genre"
>>723852735I'm sorry friend, I recently relapsed into alcoholism and it's really not going well for me either, meetings aren't working for me I think my toxic gf is to blame but I love her
>>723843347marvel has that
>>723819247come on dude, don't talk to your mom like that
>>723837110If you got a call on the phone saying it was from a microbe you'd start looking pretty hard
>>723853619I wouldn't actually, I wouldn't care
>he was just a friendly guy>didn't even know he was causing changes >just having a cheeky little peep what a lad
>>723853786Yes you would, you'd be all like>The fuck? Who the hell is M.C. Robe?and they'd all be like>HELP PLEASE GOD IT'S KILLING US
I never played it after I beat it on release at first, wonder how it is now
>>723853335I always liked the Elder Things for just both how alien, yet feasable they seem. Like they definately look like some deep sea dwelling creature from the precambrian that we would have a hard time placing into any taxonomic group. Really fitting for something thats described as being like both animal and vegetable.
Give me some good cosmic horror books that aren't made by Lovecraft/his inner circle
>>723853619Nah it would have to be some paradigm shifting transmission like gnosis.And that wouldn't make me interesting in the microbe so much as wondering how the fuck gnosis works and what that means for physics and metaphysics.But that is also because I know a priori that sapient creatures other than myself exist.If The Visitor is a single mind that hasn't ever come across any intelligence before in the universe it's somewhat understandable. Also from what I'm hearing it wasn't sapient until it mind transmissioned with humans to begin with?
>>723853936m.c. robe is pretty good anon here's your (You)
Is that dumb thirdie still in here who thinks animals can't be mutated because he's so stupid he thinks animals don't have sentience?
>>723854098https://www.youtube.com/@QuinnsIdeasthis nigga has some good videos on cosmic /hor/ books
>>723854137Is there life out there?[Aster:] It never encountered anything like us before. [Beryl:] Fermi paradox still going strong, no good news there.[Aurelius:] Are we r-really alone?! Two sapient, intelligent things: some apes on a rock and the Visitor?[Beryl:] Well, it only finds things that notice it first.[Jasper:] Sybil noticed it because it obscured stars that should have been visible. [Aster:] She thought it might be a cloud of dust.[Aurelius:] S-still... it's been traveling for so long, and it is so, so big.And alsoThe Visitor: I should go.The Visitor: I have never seen anything like you.The Visitor: I have not thought before. This is also new.The Visitor: I should go.Would you answer a question?The Visitor: Yes. What is the question?Where are you from?The Visitor: I am from a place that is black and cold and empty.The Visitor: It is unlike your place.The Visitor: I am the only one.Are we really alone?The Visitor: I have not seen another Sam.The Visitor: But parts of me are far away.The Visitor: It takes time to be aware of what I see.What are you?The Visitor: I am not Sam. Not human.The Visitor: I cannot say what I am, but I could show.Why did you do this?The Visitor: Before this moment, I was not aware.The Visitor: But now I am aware.The Visitor: I do not mean to hurt Sam.Where are you going?The Visitor: A black, cold place with nothing.The Visitor: Far from here.Thank you, friend.The Visitor: Friend? Yes.
>>723854198Thanks i try
>>723854458the visitor sounds like me after I have to leave a function because I got too blasted
>>723853349Damn, sorry to hear that. I've seen this shit ruin lives and rip families apart.Obviously I don't know your situation, but at the end of the day you can only truly blame yourself. You're the one who chooses to drink.There is no one universal solution unfortunately, meetings might work for some but not for others. You have to look for something that will help you. All I can say is that you could find something to occupy your mind with when you feel like drinking. A habit or activity, some alternative.I seriously hope that you will manage to overcome your addiction. And never give up, no matter how many times you fail, all that matters is that you keep trying. All the best to you.
>>723854019If you're going to play it again, wait until 2.0 is out at the end of the month. There have been quite a few changes since the original release.
>>723851068I thought the Visitor was warping everyone that looked at it because that's how it communicated with parts of itself. It assumed that Earth and by extension humanity were a part of itself because it didn't realize it was separate from the universe, so it tried to communicate with itself by changing what it thought was itself.
>>723854806can he fucking rework the landlord section? my god that isn't fun
>>723855017Its happening entirely by accident, not intentional. It wasn't aware of anything it was doing.
>>723818809>>723817362>>723819247You shouldnt need some immense brain capacity to recognize the visitors sheer scale. Its just a matter of factoring magnitudes.
>monster makes everything on earth more like it by observing things>sam makes the monster more human by observing it
>>723855025It's been reworked since 1.0 to be faster, but I think people still have some issues with the current version.
>>723855352It's because "observing it" also causes you to "be like it", which is why you mutate.
>>723829720he's a big guy
>>723855443in one of the endings didnt it try to show you its scale and thats what broke you mentally?the mutations I get, but size doesnt do that to your mind.
>>723819089Nothing interesting comes after interacting with it because the game is over.>>723841305The visitor mutates you if you do much as view it's form through recordings or paintings. If you perceived it in -any- way using your 5 senses, you will be mutated.
>>723855617IIRC, it was because Sam couldn't comprehend the full "being" of the Visitor in addition to its scale.
>>723855617Yeah, but it seems to be aware of you even trying to perceive it at all. Sybil noticed it first, way before it got anywhere close to earth (insofar as anything can be distant from a creature that large) and she was changed by it, and it was aware of her perceiving it, even before it was visible. It came to earth because it had never been noticed before. It just exists and always existed and didn't even think for itself until it felt it was distinct from something else alive. It is basically an idiot god.
>>723855352>>723855617Sam is just some nigger from Newark, the Visitor is so big our brains literally cannot comprehend it. Think of the difference between a million and a billion. When it shows itself to Sam it blows through all his mental safeguards and makes him experience being a giant worm that's bigger and longer than the fucking solar system for a second and it predictably destroys his puny human mindYou CAN'T understand it. There's physically not enough storage capacity in your neurons to understand it. Imagine if your hand was the size of your desk. Imagine moving your fingers around. Imagine feeling your keyboard and monitor beneath it. Now, blow it up to the size of your room. Can you still imagine how that would feel? Make it bigger. The size of your house. The size of your city. The size of your country. The size of a continent. The size of every continent. The size of a planet. The size of every planet. The size of our sun. You are now approaching 0.001% of how big the Visitor really is.
>>723855352You don't understand scale. That's why we reduce it to numbers to vaguely convey the idea. We're not talking about looking at a big thing and thinking "ah yes, that's <number> <measurement> sized, I get it". You're not being clever by being an unimaginative reductionist.
>>723855695>>723855749This makes sense if we take it as a fractal nondefinite being so that the very distinction between object and subject gets fucky when it recognizes consiousness and sees it getting reflected back in itself hegel style.>>723855797>>723855838This doesnt. Just being BIG doesnt do this shit. you can approximate a gallaxy without your mind exploding, much less something that is (visuually) the size of a few solar systems). It needs to be more fundementally fucky then a mere issue of space.
>>723855352The visitor can't exist. Nothing can be that large. It's not just some large creature, it doesn't even appear to need to eat. It has no ambitions or even conscious thought in spite of its size meaning it effectively was not using whatever constitutes its brain. It just floats around. Given existing near it's proximity causes reality itself to become unhinged, you could say the universe exists next to the visitor, rather than the visitor exists inside the universe. Hell also apparently exists because of the Hell Car, or arguably was -conjured- into existence by sheer proximity of someone with the perception of the fire and brimstone hell to the Visitor. Hell may not have existed until the Visitor scooted closer, and it only exists now because the Visitor cast one eyeball at earth.
>>723856153You're having a fundamental misunderstanding of the story here. Sam didn't approximate anything. When the visitor showed him his whole body he WAS light years long. As it's written in the story the flood of sensation completely rewired his brain in less than a hundredth of a second.You're thinking, "well nothing can be that big!" when you should be thinking "just how fucking big does something have to be to do that to you?"
>>723856343but you and me are comprehending the visitor is that big and we aren't turning into monsters
>>723851946
A lot of people inthis thread do not understand that the visitor is unable to differentiate beings from itself until Sam talks to it>Sam are we different?>we are>yes i understand, you are you and i am iThats why it visited earth and the reason it takes sybil in most of the endings, it believes those who gaze upon it are of itself.
>>723855372The power of the indomitable human spirit won over a thing like THAT.
>>723856343>You're thinking, "well nothing can be that big!"Thats literally not what I said at all. I said you shouldnt have a problem understanding something that is lightyears in size. You have problems understanding things that break your a priori concepts of space and time. Something might break you if it breaks the concept of space, not because its any arbitrary tens or millions of lightyears long.
>>723855695It doesn't show you its size like https://scaleofuniverse.com/en this shit does the Visitor straight jacked Sam into all its senses all at onceIn a millisecond it forced same to perceive light-years worth of space with billions of eyes, trillions of spiracals, quintillions of square kilometers of skin all at once.It perceives everyone who looks at it and in turn also gives them the briefest glimpse of infinity but it gave Sam the full force, intentional treatment if you tried to peer behind the curtain
>>723856153> you can approximate a galaxyThis is your misunderstanding.He brain wasn't approximating. It was full understanding and experience.The word "one billion" is an approximation. It's a severely lossy conveyance of an idea.What Sam went through was at least the equivalent of counting to a a trillion, a trillion times.>>723856534You're basically making a map = territory fallacy. It's like saying you understand how much a billion anything means because you can write the words and string a sentence together. A common mistake for brainlets and midwits.
>>723829720I laugh my ahh off (lmao) but I also wonder if anyone younger than 30 remember how BIG of a deal of how BIG og Xbox was, and that's not even counting the controller.
>>723856660well yah, but that could be applied to anything of any scale. not specific bigness. fully understanding the billions of cells in your body. the trillion of atoms in your fingernail.
>>723856660I mean, if you take someone's mind and physically make it count to a billion I'm sure they will be fucked up over itit's a good point though, maybe a down syndrome kid would have fared better in understanding the visitor because their mind doesn't allow it to think that big
>>723856862I'm 28 and grew up with the OG Xbox. Honestly it never really bothered me but I got mine in late 2002 after the S controller became standard.
>>723857147Was it your first console? Because it was my fourth after Megadrive, PSX, and PS2 and it was shocking to say the least. Got used to it after a few days though, but I'll never forget my first impression.
>>7238574023rd, after my dad's PS1 and a hand-me-down Genesis.
>>723854267I said sapience, not sentience, you dumb mutt
>>723858208still wrong, plenty of animals with more self-awareness and theory of mind than your 70iq jungle ass
The best thing about this game is that it has provided tons of reference material for people turned into various abominations but showing some of them retained their minds completely or mostly. Most artists don't comprehend how a guy or gal gets hugged tenderly by a freak of nature, they think it's all about gore, suffering, and a scary pose.
>>723844570>>723844716>>723845470>>723846568>>723846638>>723847165>character shows the least bit of femininity>waifutards immediately latch on to her despite her being a hideous monsteryou guys are so desperate it's actually insane. getting a gf isn't that hard, just lose some weight.
>>723855372I told you, bro! I told you when you gaze into the abyss, the abyss stares back!
>>723860020a being is not the abyss
>>723860071Battle not with monsters->it's not a monster though either and you didn't battle itFuck you!
