Insane how DD2's release killed dragon's dogma discussion off for good, we used to have somewhat regular threads for the original and now it's all gone
A shit sequel will do that.
>>723854374More like the flood of schizos that inhabit the board, you can't talk about anything here any more.DD2 is no better or worse than DD1.
You can always make a good thread without bringing DD2 up.
>>723854374blame the capcom shill bots, their antagonism of actual DD fans killed any and all discussion
/v/ doesnt fucking talk about anything anymore. You can only hope other people's threads are ignored by /vpol/ complaints but invariably someone will come in and start calling people brown and argue about nothing.that said i dont think im ever going to play DDDA again, not because its bad but i genuinely think DD2 is better in everything that involves actually playing the game. DDDA 1:1 in the same engine as DD2 would be pretty much perfect for me.
>>723854937youre brown for having that opinion
>>723854937The only thing that stops me from replaying DD2 is the REengine physics where you can fumble over rocks and tumble over and shit. Made me want to rip my fucking hair out.
I wish I could play Dragon's Dogma 1 with the cool twinspear from DD2. I love that shit.
>>723854374I see no point in lying, fell for the hype for a game I enjoyed and joined the shill discussions all for free because I wanted this to become a healthy franchise Crapcom killed that and I'll only type fondly of DD:DA from now on, I'm ashamed I fell for and participated in Crapcoms ruse
>>723854668It's worse ddda will always be way better
I miss /ddg/
>>723855119Same
>>723854757This. DD1 is so good 2's failure didn't kill the threads completely.It helps that there are only a couple of deranged fanboys who didn't take the L.
>>723854374Is that semen? Hot! This picture has a lot of things I enjoy, from the semen spilling on her chest while gulps it down to her extremely skimpy attire. The only things missing are huge tits.
dd2 is fine.i feel like i enjoyed dd1 more, cant quite express why.
I wonder why the Beloved mechanic even returned if it was even less consequential to the game.
>>723855064feste my beloved
>>723854374 DD2 is to Capcom what the movie Treasure Planet is to Disney. It was an obligation by way of a professional promise that they make the project at some point, so they did. Then they promptly bury it. Promise kept, now time for more of what they actually want.
>>723855521I feel the same way.DDDA is one of my favorite games.DD2 is great, but I wish I liked it more.
>>723855521Because dd1 is a better game
people hating DD2 is the most overblown shit ever>performance at release badso is every modern game>muh microtransactions!!!!literally every capcom game does this even as far back as dmc4's initial steam release
>DD1 yearsMan we had all this shit that we could've had, fuck Capcom they just didn't get Itsuno enough time or money, if only we had a sequel>DD2 comes out with almost twice the dev time and bigger budget>it's shitItsuno was just a hack.
>>723855775The sad part is the performance wasn't bad, it was only a problem with NPCs which you'd only really feel in the main city. Even then it was largely ignorable because you aren't fighting in the city, unless a random monster spawns there for some reason.
>>723854523i know it happens a lot but why? seems kind of weak willed.
>>723854374janny prunes non-nintendo threads.
>>723854374As an old DD fan with, no joke, over 6k hours in the game most of what I was engaging with was DD2 speculation and how it could improve things.I can only answer newbie questions or talk about game mechanics so much now that DD2 came and went.I still play DD from time to time but there is nothing new to talk about honestly. I still hold out hope for some ridiculous modding breakthrough for new content but eh.
>no moonI'll never forgive him
>>723855775you know damn well there's more to it than thatobviously the hate is over the top but that's just internet reactionaries. at the game's core it really is mediocre even without being compared to the first one, still enjoyable since the format is still there. played it and beat it, and my fun, but dd1 is the better experience and has more discussion to offer.just too bad it was that middling level of bad where you don't get concord tier jerking off on the poor quality but not decent enough to get average conversation about, just a "whatever" 4/10 bad that you forget about.
>>723856023Blame capcom for not handling covid well enough and rushing the game out because of MH6. The moon was there.
>>723854374DD1 was a game with flaws. We waited a decade for a sequel and it had all the exact same damn flaws and then some of it's own. That is bad, regardless of the usual /v/ hyperbole.
>>723855775wow i wonder why anyone would prefer older games if your saying modern era slop is okay since its the average
>>723855775I just found it boring. The story was somehow worse than the first game and the sidequests were much worse. The first game had a lot of charm to it that the second game just doesn't have. I'm tired of going into a cave system. That the final tower isn't even a proper fucking tower can fuck right off. I recently replayed DDA and still enjoyed it and I couldn't do the same with D2. It was one and done because at the end of the day it's too fucking tedious.
>>723856038Without DA added in DD1 has the same amount of issues, people just choose to ignore them. DD2 is not a bad game, it's a horribly unfinished one, what IS there is fairly good but it's the large gulfs of content missing that hurt it. DD1 may be a more finished product but it's a scale model of sorts, the world is tiny, the story short, dungeons are singular rooms, and there really aren't that many large monsters to fight. It's a fun game but it's also a tiny game.
>>723855895>>723855775The performance is terrible for how it looks. Objectively. >just use AIwow such fidelity
>>723854668>DD2 is no better or worse than DD1.found the schizo
>>723856328It's actually not, even potato rigs can hold 90+ FPS outside the main city.
>>72385628090% of DD players have never done BBI and yet they love the game. This is a fucking retarded argument.No one but absolute shit eaters liked DD2.
>>723856280A tiny game is preferable to a boring long game. 2's map is a complete detriment to it's enjoyability. It's a shitload of empty boss fights that get boring after you've fought them for 5 hours because you got lost and a ferrystone would actually set you back 5 hours. Yes I'm still mad that I got lost for five hours it's the most memorable thing about that shitty game.
>>723856409This is the childish attitude that killed all discussion on this board.
we're talking about darkest dungeon 2 right?
>>723856382With AI shit smearing everything, that's not good. It looks like ass.
>>723856379Notice how he didn't say "dark arisen'
>>723855775and the music, and the writing, and the pacing, and the vocations, and the character creator, and the npcs, and the enemy variety, but other than that yeah I agree.
>>723856416The map is the best part of 2 however. Gorgeous, neat locations to explore, the main downside is the lack of enemy diversity as you progress through the game.>You are mad because you got lost in a video gamecome the fuck on man the problem is clearly you, maybe you should stick to games with yellow paint
>>723856038It quite literally is the exact same game with some minor creative changes here and there. The only thing that sets 1 apart is BBI, which if removed and compared you'd have to be a complete retard to think DD2 is better. Everyone talks shit about the performance of DD2 being bad even though it is only in the city, no one remembers how DD1 released with a fucking forced letterbox because it ran so poorly.
>>723856465No, not with upscaling, have you even played DD2 yourself or did you get all your info from content creators?
>>723856553They won't respond to your post because you are right, they just want to hate DD2, like they do with every new game, nothing but hate.
gee Ashe, how come the cycle lets you have two beloveds?
>>723856553>It quite literally is the exact same game with some minor creative changes here and there.kill yourself lying shillalmost every class is worsemoving around is like 3x more sluggishthe art style is inferiorthe music is shit when the original's was amazingthe story is complete garbage with not a single good characterpawn dialogue fucking sucks nowarmor customization is dramatically inferiorcharacter customization is more shallowenemy design is worse and there are less enemiesit's like 10x easier
>>723856502>music only good song is the title theme, not original to DD, removed in BBI, which the only good song is coils of light, which is an expansion that wasnt directed by itsuno at all >writingthe story and characters are exactly the same >vocations this is fair, though i believe warrior being buffed and warfarer balances it out>character creator muh loli pawns, otherwise more involved with more options in every way>npcsmasterwerks all u cant go wrong was a meme and not intentional game design >enemy varietyobjectively more enemies in 2
>>723856553>It quite literally is the exact same game with some minor creative changes here and thereIt's not, you handwave away any nuance.
>>723856750you can only name one song from dd1, get over it bro
>>723856793Nice bait
>>723855059i understand but i think it was pretty neat knowing you really shouldnt be fighting anywhere fucking near a cliff face. not just some rare occasion where a cyclops or something pushes you off the ledge, but an actual real danger that you might trip and become a Bhattali Pancake
>>723855494its Cloudwine you stupid cunt. play the game at the very LEAST
>>723856502>and the character creatorOk now this is just silly, the character creator for 2 is lightyears beyond what was available in 1, you're being disingenuous and we all know why.
>>723855992People continue to talk about the old game in hopes that it will get a good sequel one day. Now that the sequel is confirmed shit and killed off the franchise, there's not much reason to talk about the original aside from reminiscing.
>>723855856this single move connecting with anythings head and staggering it means that no matter how much fuller a game the original might be i still think DD2 is functionally better
>>723856808I can't name any of them but I hear them. So many of them. Easily one of the better soundtracks of all time. Meanwhile the sequel was 0/10 in music.>>723856969It's better in what kind of face you can make but worse in what kind of character you can make.
>>723856465The game didn't even release with AI framgen bullshit and it ran fine unless you were in the city.
>>723855494Isn't it just cloudwine? That's her favorite gift item.
>>723857016you're completely full of shit and the game looks awful
>>723857015>It's better in what kind of face you can make but worse in what kind of character you can make.Pray tell what kind of character you can make in 1 but not 2, and why it makes 2 the worse game?
>>723856854concession: yep, accepted
>>723856969DD2 was disappointing in many ways but I don't see why people criticize the character creator.It's not like DD1 even had a particularly good one to begin with. It was fine.
>>723856750The vocations are all much better you window licking faggot. You've gotta be a god damn moron to wanna go back to spamming jumping heavy attack for ninety percent of your Warrior gameplay. Or not using Mage at all because it's fucking useless. Or fucking Archer just spamming ten fold blast arrow. You could argue that Sorcerer got worse because you can't have a half a dozen spells at once but I'll tell you to eat a dick and learn to make tough choices.
>>723856981You also can't talk about the series in a healthy way because people are on different pages when sequels suck.>>723857067Dwarves and children. It had more options overall too.
>>723857061It literally did not launch with framegen, how fucking stupid are you?
>>723857061burp
>>723857108Magic and archery is objectively worse and yes warrior laughably played better in the first game even if it had less, because it wasn't bogged down by modern shit animation locks. Nothing is satisfying in the sequel either because it's so easy and the enemy design is trash.
>>723857074This kind of person >>723857123 who wants to create a very specific kind of pawn hates it and unfortunately they cannot shut the fuck up about their mental illness.
>>723856808https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=grOqIN2FBQ4https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8SuiWd5habghttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BCPD_wmCPVAhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oRCz3wDiYBMhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xmlxgt8hx7Ehttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OTNfuztCMgMhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0lxBcxWhqtchttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h1mRDYPwtgoI got bored finding the good songs. DD2 loves just like to downplay DD1 because they genuinely never liked it that much.
>>723857165>>723857170that webm is from march 26th and the game runs badly to this day, and will never ever look good
>>723856517one night after fighting a griffin it just fucking clicked. the same reason i liked DD1. i dont need "stuff". Sometimes the vague and nondescript adventure is just how it is and it can just WORK
>>723856750yeah i loved the vocations in 1 where in warrior has half the gameplay of all other classes, fighter & mage are utterly useless, ranger involved spamming 10-fold-bolt over and over, strider involved spamming helm splitter over and over, assassin was dogshit because it didnt have helm splitter, magic archer spammed ricochet over and over, and magic knight spammed magic cannon over and overthe only well designed class was sorcerer
I made a thread the other day if I should buy DD2 or not. Now I'm fearing if DD2 will run well in my computer with RTX 3040
>>723857234Where did I say I hated it? It simply objectively had less options.
>>723854668Youre right, but compare dd2 to dd:da like everyone else
>>723857230>warrior played better in the first game>the second game has literally all the same abilities as warrior did in the first game, plus more + a full move setgenuinely lobotomized
>Dragons Dogma Dark Arisen releases on PC>everyone prays that a mod will be made to give Warriors their stolen extra abilities>it never happensWhy even live
>>723857326You shouldn't buy it and it will run poorly. It runs badly for everyone. I have a 9800X3D and a 4070ti and it runs like shit.
>>723857308I love how you didn't even try and all of this post is wrong
>>723857354its nostalgia from someone who played Warrior for 20 seconds in DD2 and didnt like it. idk how the FUCK anyone could use the shoulder in DD2 and say jumping and pressing light attack is better gameplay
>>723857395post playtime
>>723854374>dragon's dogma discussion off for goodno, we still get daily seethe threads from your discord group
>>723857470>>723857354I clearly explained why it was better. You are probably just worthless players that can find fun in the shitty game. It's the opposite of fun, there's no fun to be found in it.
warrior players never lived this down
>>723857273>all of these except for the title screen are just generic orchestral overtures fuck off man, at least pick coils of light and cassardis, honorable mention for this utterly fantastic remix of both https://youtu.be/LrgUoeFWNtY
>>723857476
>>723857563What skills had animation locks?
>>723857230>Magic and archery is objectively worseYou're a dumbass. Mage and Archer are objective improvements, this isn't even up for debate. >warrior laughably played better in the first gameYou're a mega dumbass.There are plenty of valid complaints you can voice about DD2 but you sound like a fucking idiot if you're gonna say the Vocations were better.
>>723857619>generic orchestral overtureslol k
>>723857613uh that isnt arc of deliverance or 10 fold bolt or helm splitter cast for the 1000x time gameplay..........................................
>>723857637I too name my screenshots as if they were images saved from /v/
>>723854374>I thought I romanced Mercedes by doing her questline because I didn't understand how romance worked.>I actually romanced the weapons vendor
>>723857689niggas really be hearing strings and trumpets and drums for the first time at 19 and think it is the best shit ever
>>723857732>
>>723857732Many such cases
>>723857686Garbage fucking take. Literally no one agrees with you, the game was forgotten in weeks.
>>723857458No he was mostly correct, just wrong about Fighter and Assassin.
>>723857686Vocations were easily better in DD1
>>723857772I agree with him, guess that makes your post false.
>>723856159https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SZNbabKjKpA
>>723857761Exactly as I said. All DD2 fanboys can do is make a strawman out of everything DD1 did better and shouting this doesn't matter, that doesn't matter. Get some taste.
>>723857772I agree with him.
>>723857781And it's not even close. When I played DD2 I even had the mod that let you use way more skills and the game was still garbage to play.There is the fundamental issue of enemy design and difficulty followed by sluggish animations. >>723857840>Searching for posts with the image hash ‘1q9luX8qsw0U2ljhy0bzAg==’. 18 results found.Yeah I know, I've seen you coping before. You're the Barry of DD threads, congrats on your retarded opinion.
>>723857776And all the other vocations except mage.
>>723857862but dragons dogma 2 is also full of wholly generic orchestral fanfare crazy
>>723857918I'm posting images I saved from /v/, same as you, except I'm not the one trying to pretend I played DD2 when I really didn't.
>>723857781Wrong.>>723857772Literally everyone with taste agrees with me, no one with a functioning brain prefers spamming jumping heavy attacks or helm splitter for ninety percent of combat. You got filtered, you got mad, you can deal with it.
>>723857963I don't expect you to understand what makes DD1 music memorable and pleasant to the ears and what makes DD2 music boring.
>>723857776Those were better in 2, the rest were worse imo but objectively speaking all magic and archery was significantly worse to the point they weren't even remotely fun.
>>723858027Post a song from DD2 and explain to us what makes it boring, in great detail.
I liked Trickster.
>we're never going to get a BBI-tier expansion for DD2
>>723855754
>>723858087>The post title drop section will never be a fully fleshed out game>The portal doors will forever remain closedits sad
>>723858087
>>723854374D2 wasn't that bad
>>723856159Holy shit that's my pawn
>>723858165>people complain the unmoured world has a time limit>do everything i think to do in the unmoured world and beat the game without ever knowing that >apparently the time limit is pretty longdid people just rest over and over for no reason or something despite the game telling you repeatedly you need to move quick?
>>723858073>I liked Trickster.This is the kind of retard defending the shit pile known as DD2.
>>723858006Correct. Strider alone in DD1 shits all over Thief or Archer in DD2 by combining both and having a ton of options for approaching enemies.Fighter in DD1 feels like a complete fast savage tank compared to the pathetic blocking DD2 has that doesn't even stagger enemies.
>>723858280The post game from DD1 is the best part (other than BBI). Putting any type of time limit on the equivalent in the sequel is GAY.
When is it getting cracked? It's been long enough, they still haven't removed denuvo?
>>723858280>Lose max HP on big hits>Add new harder bosses to the map>The only way to recover max HP is to rest or drink a rare potion>WTF WHY ARE PEOPLE RESTING????????Don't be retarded, Anon. First run on Unmoored world you're guaranteed to lose some areas.
TRUST.THE.PLAN.
>>723858287>wuts that? a vocation where i have to do something very unique with limited control by design that is very rewarding to succeed with in a fun yet flawed way? >i cant just spam helm splitter over and over? >.........
>>723858063You do that, I'm not putting effort doing minigames to try to argue with retards. I posted a ton of great DD1 songs just for you to go "generic orchestral music", as if I'd bother with your retarded ass.
>>723858425I didn't lose to any of them. Sounds like a skill issue to me.
>>723858417Not much demand
>>723858287you are just a boring person
>>723858437I can design a vocation that defeats enemies by having the player put the controller in their ass. It doesn't mean it's good but I'm sure you'd enjoy it.
>>723858446It's your argument, if you don't want to defend your shit takes and explain what exactly makes DD1 music better than 2 then we don't want to hear you whine. You just want to hate it, you don't want to understand it, you are autistically attached to a single game and feel this primal desire to hate everything else.
>>723858624i too wish my mind was full of homoerotic imaginings
>>723858705DD1 being generic orchestral music is originally your argument. Claiming DD1 had no songs people could name is also your argument. You didn't try to argue anything but I have to defend my position? Get out of here.
>>723854374Woke + RE engine
>>723858767nice mods
>>723856045>>723856092>>723856101>>723856159God it looks so shit yet it can't get 40 frames on a 4060
>>723858792It probably is. Anyone that seriously types a sentence on the caliber of>very rewarding to succeed with in a fun yet flawed waycannot convince me otherwise.
>>723858801That's not my argument, believe it or not you are speaking to multiple anons, I know hard to believe right? My question is can you, the person who is incensed at the idea of anyone daring to insult DD1s music, explain exactly what you think it is that makes DD2 music inferior.I'll give you a little push here, a hint perhaps. You could explore how the music is use within the game, is there dynamic track swapping perhaps, and how does that affect the experience.
>>723858801Stating that all the tracks you listed are generic orchestral arrangements isn't an argument. It's a fact at best, and a statement at worst. You're the one who specifically said the music in DD2 was shit.
DD1 has no Sphinx, checkmate atheists
>>723858882It runs at 80-100 on a 2070 bub
>>723858885me use arc of deliverance for 900 time vs goblin
>>723858960Only good part of the game other than her dumb ass quests
>>723858926Sorry I typed use instead of used here, please don't call me an ESL and try to avoid the discussion.
>>723857108Nobody cares about warrior retard, every other vocation is a downgrade
>>723854374>Insane how DD2's release killed dragon's dogma discussion off for good, we used to have somewhat regular threads for the original and now it's all goneSame thing will happen to Ninja Gaiden now that NG4 sucked and flopped and NG ""fans"" didn't even buy it.
>>723858926I don't care about satisfying your little requirement as if you are so very smart with your questions. I originally answered to the anon that claimed that there were 0 songs people can extract from DD1 that were good as if that was some kind of gotcha moment. You coming in and claiming all these were generic orchestral music is not making an argument. Go answer your own smartass questions for every one of us for why your claim is true.
>>723859145ok so you just want to spew shit everywhere and have no real point, got itgrrr dd2 bad right bro?
>>723859098>non fantasy non open world swordslopit was so obvious it was gonna flop
I knew in my heart that DD2 was going to be a shit heap the second I watched the interview about the new "armor system" in DD2.>You know that really cool unique armor system from the first game? The one that let you craft a super stylized unique style set for your pawn for the games core social feature, hiring for other players pawns in the rift?>Yeah I heard one knuckle dagger say he couldn't figure it out, so we scrapped that whole system and now you barely have any customization.It was in this moment I knew they had absolutely no fucking clue what made the first game a success.
>>723858929I can just as easily claim that you being wrong is a fact then. You can literally not argue to save your life.
i hope you guys used the nigger remover
>>723859174You sound retarded. It's very simple, anon claimed that noone can name a memorable DD1 song and a quick YT search proved otherwise. Then you started having a meltdown about everything being generic orchestral music and how I have to provide a thesis as to why DD2 is not inferior sounding. I am awaiting for your own thesis claiming the opposite and defending your opinions.
>>723859227Don't worry. DD2 fanboys will just say that armor parts didn't matter.
>>723859362You sputtered out anon, we moved on because we realized you aren't trying to have an honest discussion, you just want to hate. Let it go, close the tab.
>>723859227you just knew it was only retards who couldn't imagine an apple in their head that thought it was gonna be good, can't believe they thought capcom was hiding 50% of the vocations behind a tee and they had yet to reveal a snow world
>>723859362>noone can name a memorable DD1 songthat's where you should have stopped reading, as it is obviously a troll. also, nta
denuvo killed the hype for me.
>>723854374all we can do is pray the source code gets leaked, and a bunch of ultra nerds/trannies makes us dd2.
>>723859417It's better if you closed the tab to save yourself the embarrassment of having to delude yourself about what is happening and how much I "want to just hate". People liking DD1 music over DD2 is not hate, it's valid criticism. No wonder 0 DD2 songs get celebrated like End of a Struggle or both of the title screens and Cassardis theme
>>723859362You were asked a simple question, can you stop making up arguments to get mad at and try to answer it for us.>>723858027
>>723859536wouldn't even help, the game wasn't finished
>>723859236Well, you could, but I'm not. You could literally just replace any of the tracks you listed with this slop and it would fit the theme and mood exactly. https://youtu.be/OyxTRFNUQ6A
>>723859227i'm honestly conflicted. i think i would have preferred armor being just "armor" and "helmet", provided there were 100 armor sets, they all looked really good, and you could choose from 30 different colors.
>>723857840that's so fucking cool
>>723859597Do I have to tell you more than once that I'm not answering your stupid question that you think is some gotcha argument? You can go provide arguments for your opinions first.>>723859643Well you are. Enjoy having no taste, it's not uncommon, I've met many people like you.
>>723859551original retard who shit on your taste in music herei wasnt saying DD1 music was bad or that DD2 music was better, i was implying your music taste was dogshit in that you would unironically try to argue that DD1 has good music and then not use the two objectively best tracks on the OST to defend that point (coils of light and the cassardis theme) in favor of epic battle music fanfare that could exist in any medieval fantasy game
>>723856802>you handwave away any nuancemight as well be the tagline for /v/ at this point
>>723859775You stated that DD1 music is memorable, well why? Why is it memorable? Using that same line of thinking why isn't DD2 music memorable?This is a discussion, not a clown show, explain yourself like an adult or put on the nose and shoes.
>>723857563so you are a lobotomite. i dont care what drivel you typed out, playing Warrior in BBI and enjoying it and then claiming DD2 has the worse means youre a retard and your posts are ironic in that youre claiming the people who appreciate MORE gameplay are "worthless".why am i arguing with you anyway youre probably genuinely of lower mental ability and have some kind of attachment to DD1 past its validity as a videogame.
>>723859809Firstly, I went with those because I didn't want idiots to scream that it was unfair of me to use title screen music like Into Free or Coils of Light. Cassardis theme was rolled into the character creation which I enjoy more and I didn't want to post a similar song twice as I was going through the playlist. That was me trying to be genuine and not inflate the numbers of songs posted.Secondly, those weren't generic in the slightest and even if they were, I see nobody mentioning anything close to medieval electric guitars or how DD2 did anything better.
>>723859915It's ok if you hate DD1 but it doesn't make DD2 any better.
>>723854937meticulously crafted bait, there's not a single flaw with this post. I'm in awe, man, legitimately one of the best I've ever seen.
>>723860079I never said I hate DD1. The world is not built around 100% like or hate anon, there's a whole galaxy inbetween.
>>723860147If you think shit is better than steak you clearly just hate steak, stop trying to play dumb.
>>723860147Then post the things you love, in this case the songs. And explain how they are good and not generic medieval music.
>>723860017personally i found all the music in dragons dogma 2 forgettable, and all but 3 of the tracks in dragons dogma 1 forgettable 1. cassardis theme, utter kino 2. coils of light, which is an unfair comparison because it's part of an expansion Itsuno never touched or had any direction on what so ever3. into free, which was a hype choice but removed in DA and wasnt even originally composed for the game in the first placeso strictly speaking, DD1 has better music because of the cassardis theme
>>723860217see>>723860291This is how you make a post like a normal person.
>>723854523Truth>t. Crash Bandicoot fan
>>723860320By having others post for you?
>>723860349By being able to articulate your opinion and not just post "erm this is better ok" you fucking retard
>>723857273inon zur, bethesdas main composer did one of my favorite songs in the game. those watery 90s synths in the background are god tier. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ugk4B5s4XNc
>>723858280its one of those things where large swathes of gamers are somehow shit enough to need a guide and shit also enough that they dont read a guide for the parts they actually need it for- because the time limit doesnt even start before a certain point and becomes functionally infinite once you reach the required threshold but dont go to the centre after youre told to. I also did pretty much everything and only tangentially wondered if i was under time-sensitive conditions. when i looked it up after all the complaints i was already perfectly safe from the time limit and having done most of the content available.its 12 rests btw. anons are complaining about not finding everything they require out of postgame within 12 inn rests or sleeps
>>723854374Discord tranny raid thread. Kill yourself OP.
>>723860376But they didn't do that? They called Cassardis theme utter kino and Into Free hype. Are seriously mentally challenged? How have you argued for your past posts? >erm these songs are bad, explain to me why they are goodYeah real brainpower and effort there.
>>723854668>DD2 is no better or worse than DD1You might be part of >>723854668>the flood of schizos
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>>723860402Huh, where the fuck does this play? It's nice.
>>723860084its not bait and youre mentally ill to think someone could prefer the thing you dont. like not "haha ur retarded" like if you read someone say they prefer elements of a different game in a series and you think theyre baiting then youre literally incapable of reason.Ive play DDDA to death, i dont see myself going back to it for any reason when the Ranger and Warrior gameplay i liked is improved in DD2. Once again, if BBI was just copy pasted into DD2 id be more than happy. you cunt
>>723860462>everyone talking about videogames>spastic chimps outtired of you people, genuinely
>>723860480Good luck anon.>>723860409For me it's more about that section of the game being a lot smaller than it could have been. Yeah it was cool but when the title drop hit I really thought I was in for another 20 hours or more, not just a handful of (actually neat) boss kills and it's over. I can see how the average person might not expect the rest limit and casually rest a bunch out of habit and get blindsided but honestly I don't think that part was a problem, consequences are fun.
>>723860480what's there to explain, the cassardis theme completely fits the starting village perfectly with its slow relaxed piano and ethereal vocal chants, very pleasant to listen to and very comfy, exactly emblematic of sitting on a pier and fishing away in your cozy fishing villageinto free is an overly bombastic j-rock track that is COMPLETELY tonally dissonant from the game and that causes it to stand out like a sore thumb in a really fun and energetic way, but it is understandable why they removed it
>>723860647I'm not the one who's pressing for explanations anon. I like DD1's ost and think it does a lot of unique things.
>>723860564it plays in the ever fall. i remember landing on one of the balconies and just listening to this and thinking holy shit they hid this gem so far into the game.
>>723860647>COMPLETELY tonally dissonantKinda is kinda isn't. The game likes its electric guitars and rock even without that title screen music. I can see why they chose it.
>>723860621overall i was pleased with the game. it was hard to be disappointed because i was happy we got the game at all and i think that carried me all the way through with all its creases. Only when seeing it discussed did i see extreme opinions about it being "dogshit" and "empty". Im not sure a fully realised long endgame loop is really wanted out of DD the same way i play Souls games a grand total of once or twice. I think BBI and BBI 2.0 is better than the Everfall
>>723858087There's not fixing the music or dialogue downgrade, but a good expansion to finish off the game and add that extra difficult content and monsters is really all the game needs.>>723858165Fug
>>723854374Tasty dragon cum
>>723860617>>723854523>>723855816>>723856409>>723857563>It's shit!!! Is video game discussionKill yourself already discord raider
>>723854523Many such cases, happened to Dark Souls twice as well.
>>723860957i think the main issue that a lot of people experience when playing dragons dogma 2 is that they learned nothing from the first game in that it actively expects you to just meander around and return to town constantly for no reason other than just because and urges you to do this with how oppressive the night can be, your health/stamina draining from max over timeif you take the game slow and meander around you will see tons of constant changes around the city, new quests, new npcs doing whatever. but if you dont and you just blast the main quest you will just be at the end of the game in 5 hours with nothing to show for it
>>723854937Old retro games like VTMB and Kotor avoid schizos supisingly, new games attract the worst shitposters. Say what you want about gacha fags like Umamusume and Blue Archive but at least like their games. After that it's just coomer threads for Twitter screenshot bait, politics, off topic shit, spam, gore, stale memes like GOW, and real CSEM shit, /v/ is fucking terrible.
>>723860957I'm happy with what was there but it's obvious there should have been so much more, it leaves me with somewhat of a melancholy feeling. The map was fucking amazing, maybe I'm just a simple person but I loved just traversing it, figuring out how x connected to y, taking a million screenshots (not that pic related is mine). My main complaint aside from it being unfinished is how overpowered the player is, enemies don't scale up well and their AI is woefully undertuned. After the first 10-15 hours of the game you won't be challenged by anything and it's more about how can I style on this chump than how can I beat it, large enemies get stunned, staggered, and knocked down far too easily.Surely it was never going to live up to a decade of anticipation but it's disappointing that it gets so much hate for reasons that aren't even true.
>>723861298To be fair, gacha threads are 70% ritual posts, 20% porn, and 10% actual discussion.
>>723861396>it's disappointing that it gets so much hate for reasons that aren't even trueThis is true>it was never going to live up to a decade of anticipationThis needs the context of not improving on things DD1 desperately needed, not having 100% static spawns. Some people went in with reasonable expectations for the sequel and there was still very little.
>>723861396DD2's map was indeed great, better than 1's. There was a difficulty bump once you get to Bakbattal and fighting early griffins and dragons is still a challenge for a time, but random spawns would have helped with the lower variety.It's a shame that large enemies can get stunlocked so easily, it's very cool to see them have multiple stun/stagger states like in >>723855910 but then they end up dying too fast.
>>723854374Is this milk?
>>723861630My main complaint with the map in 2 is that there are few, if any, really open areas compared to basically the entire area outside of Grandsys in 1. Everything is interweaving paths, sheer cliffs, tunnels, narrow valleys, etc. that make traversal in a straight line basically impossible and necessitates the use of a fuck ton of ferrystones lest it just be way too tedious to move around the world.
>>723861849Gran Soren* Or even the fields after the titular Hill with Bandit ft. Big Rock
https://youtu.be/2dtdG_eQBeY>DD2's music is forgettab-ACK!
>>723861968Sounded like something I've heard a lot of times before. There is some buildup and tension but generally not any interesting parts or melodies to point out.
>>723861968sounds ai generated
>>723859098>discordtranny thinks there's audience overlap between their latest grift and DD2how long until discordfags start posting shit like pathologic 3 in these DD2 threads
>>723858087>>723858165Kinoshita's name has not been tied to any new capcom release since DD2, which makes me think he inherited the series.worst case we're getting Dragon's Dogma nightreign in 2026.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0LB-Ry3qqhMhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9FXC4X-yMmgMan, there should be a version where English and Japanese are combined. Similar to End of Yorha from Nier.
>>723862553The saddest part about it is that >>723861052 as this anon said it wouldn't take much thought to figure out how to "fix" it if they wanted to put out a dlc of some kind. Fill in the blanks while rebalancing enemy difficulty so they aren't a pushover.
The griffin fight music is better than one's toohttps://youtu.be/wWv5PFMnnAE
>>723854374would a dd2 dark arisen save it?
>>723862843No. Just as it didn't save 1, but it would help.
>>723862843Save what? DD2 is already decent, an expansion would only make it better
>>723862824I liked most of the battle themes, it's funny how they gave so many enemies their own unique theme but you never get to hear it because they die too fast. That or like the Medusa you only see it once.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hDaUOgs8Ppw
people hate DD2 Dragon, but he's basically Arisen's Vegeta.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wWv5PFMnnAE
>>723863139>link failhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BWE_5w7On8c
the true title drop was one of the coolest fucking ideas they could have pulled out of their ass and it pains me to see that the rest of the game couldn't hold up it's part of the bargain
>>723854374>release the same game a decade later but with less features, less content and no improvements whatsoeverWhat were they thinking
DD1 could never produce a moment this funny
>>723863275It was chinks and indians they don't think
>>723863541comedy
>>723862824This is ok but I definitely like the first game's better. The payoff for the buildup is nice but the buildup itself is a bit boring and repetitive.>>723862941Probably the best so far. Nice syncopation(?). It should be around 2-3 minutes though, not a 4 minute song.>>723863181Very bland intro. Then it gets good when it starts. Nice melodies but the spaces where it lets you breathe it ends up losing momentum a bit. It just drags a bit when it could place the final bombastic chorus earlier and end sooner.
Same thing happened with TWEWY:NEO
>>723856920>>723857054>translator's note, cloudwine means cum (shota)
Dd2 is great but just like first game it lack a huge amount of content and with itsuno gone i don't think capcom will even consider making another dark arisen expansion
>>723862824Kino
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>>723863275>Yes saar DD2 is the bad saarThey're still fucking going lmao
>>723864068according to itsuno they wanted him to make dd2 sequels before he left the company. usually in japan the sequal is started not long after the release of the game.
>>723862824in what universe?https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xmlxgt8hx7E
>>723862843Unlike mhwilds, dd2 core gameplay is fun but we won't be getting anything ever againEnjoy your mhwilds billion dollar collaborations
>>723864845/vpol/ is this delusional.
>>723854374I stopped talking about Dragon's Dogma and other games I actually like here because all /v/ does anymore is seethe and shitpost about everything 24/7. None of you have anything fun or interesting to contribute to video game threads.
>>723864920This, I used to enjoy refreshing the catalog, finding a thread, and then just talking about games for a while. Nowadays you open any thread and it's filled with freaks spamming low effort hate posts to try and drown out discussion. I cannot even begin to describe my disappointment in this entire website when it came to trying to discuss PoE2.
>>723864920>>723865046If anyone hasn't noticed, while this thread has been going on someone has been having a hissy fit and making new anti-DD2 threads on the board over and over again. Mental illness in full view.
>>723864920This.
subtle as always reddit
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i enjoyed the CC
>>723857840I made that original webm so I feel qualified to shit my opinion about this game considering how many times it's been reposted as a "DD2 is good" argument (see attached webm of never-before-seen prequel for proof)The game sucks. It's the biggest disappointment I've ever experienced in gaming. That webm was very early in the game. My first griffin fight. It was awesome, but that was the peak of the game. It excited me to the possibilities of what the rest of the game would be like, but it doesn't get better than that.The combat is great, but it has nowhere to shine. The game sorely lacks monster variety. For roaming big monsters, all it has over DD1 is the minotaur and dullahan. That's just depressing. Especially depressing and basically the reason the game sucks is that it doesn't have any big endgame dungeon where you can purely engage with the best part of the game. It's got no Bitterblack. Hell, it doesn't even have the Everfall. The Unmoored World, as cool as it seems at first, is basically the overworld with a filter. It doesn't fundamentally change anything about the game.Obviously the game is unfinished. But that doesn't mean it doesn't suck. It sucks because it's unfinished. Though I'm not gonna deflect and say Itsuno was a heckin' genius that got fucked over by Capcom for not getting the budget to finish his magnum opus. It's pretty clear his priorities were in the wrong places. I would have happily taken a smaller world, less quests and NPC related shit if we got more monsters and improvements to the combat. Itsuno could have really played to the game's strength with the budget he had, but that's not what impresses the normies, and something tells me that he himself cares less about the combat than the world.tl;dr: DD2 sucks because it plays to its weaknesses instead of its strengths
>>723865657I too follow 4chan file naming conventions when making my own webms.
>>723865729>newfag doesn't know about 4chan-xt's filename randomizer
>>723865784>>723865729
>>723854374Yea it was pretty disappointing but it was still better than fucken Wilds. Hopefully they don't shelve the series and at least build upon it.
>>723865850I think the fact that they threw it under the bus then publicly declared it a success says they are shelving it for good. They made a bit of cash and are happy to forget it exists.
>>723865850Oh yeah, Milds was a fucking disaster
>>723854523>>723855992Just look at how Melee fans are treated even though it is objectively the best smash game. They are treated like freaks for daring to stick with the old fun game instead of roster fagging with the normies and secondaries.DD2 is very shit performance wise, but if they ever manage to fix it or PCs get affordable and strong enough to play it well, it is at least a decent alternative to DD1 since it's basically just the same exact game with a new coat of paint and some added story.
>>723865954>DD2 is very shit performance wise,It is fine performance wise, stop parroting influencer opinions and do your own research if you yourself have not played the game.
>>723864920Yup this. It's not that I don't talk about dragon's dogma, I don't seriously talk about ANY game with you fags. You're all assblastedd all the time, can't have serious discussion, can't have any fun or make any jokes without it you being secretly seething about (political brainrot you're obsessed with). I only post to make fun of people
Was a huge dogma fan but I haven't played 2. I guess that says something because I don't think I care if I ever play it. From what I've seen you don't get to fight many new things at all or explore any cool dungeons which were the best parts about the first game.
>>723854374Dragons Dogma 2 should be more replayable than 1 but I have not gotten the urge to revisit the game since my first playthrough.
>when the iron golem staggers and https://youtu.be/NFehYorMnQU?t=79 starts blasting
Dark Arisen is shit because it removes WIND IS PUSHING ME
>>723857074>It's not like DD1 even had a particularly good one to begin withWhat are you smoking, it was always a very robust, flexible character creator.
>>723864920This so much this.
>use oxcart>attacked by goblins 3 times>then a griffon destroys the cart half wayJust FUCK OFF
>>723854374You faggots had a sticky for a woke game that flopped Good goy
I've been playing the private server for DDON and it's insane how much better it is than 2
>>723866032I have played the game with my 4090ti and 7800x3d. It ran like shit, the pop in was shit, the blurry graphics were shit, and I quit playing and refunded it. If you need a 5090 and 9950x3d to play the game, then it's shit.
>finish tough battle>pawn talks shit about how easy the fight way>high-fivekino
>>723869506It runs fine on 20 series cards anon, you can stop being weird about it.
>>723861179Fuck off to/vg/ then you faggot, maybe next time release a good sequel (lol as if) and you can have your discussions on /v/
>>723869537>weirdTranny or a homosexual fur nigger
>>723869834keep your fetishes out of the thread bro this isn't the board for that kind of shit
>>723855775I don't hate DD2. It's worse than that: thinking about it makes me sad.
My dream Dragon's Dogma game would be the engine, combat, skills, and physics from Dark Arisen mixed with the map, enemy aggression, and enemy variety of Elden Ring. 'I honestly wouldn't have been made if they just ported Dragon Dogma 1's gameplay loop (save Warrior and Mage which both needed some tuning) and then spent all of their development time working on the map and enemies.
I like both games, but DD2 suffers heavily from lack of challenge and proper endgame. Without BBI there's just little to no reason to keep playing.
I prefer DDDA's game-y feel more. The stagger in early to mid DD2 is fucking horrible. In DDDA you don't really get staggered much unless it's a heavy attack, like a shield goblin throwing himself at you, or it's by a huge enemy like a cyclops. In DD2 you easily get stunlocked, which is very annoying.The biggest problem I'd say is the lack of enemy variety. Too many variants of shit as opposed to unique enemies.
>>723861197t.
>>723871387My dream is for someone to remake other games in DDDA's engine. Like that guy who's remaking morrowind in elden ring's.
>>723871541I love the pawn system and I really wish it existed in a game with serious long term content. It's such a fun system and it would benefit greatly from a game where players stuck around and logged in regularly. It's such a waste to put all that effort into it and then you finish the game and that's it, you never interact with the pawn system again.
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>>723856802Fucking this lolEven the fact DD2 has actual physics will be met with>eh whatever I don’t care
>>723871541I wish DD2 had at least utilized its map some more. There's a huge chunk missing in the middle, thanks to the mountain, and the elven region has like one notable quest in it. Same with the hidden village. You go there once and that's it. Then you think the southern region is some third act-tier area, but there's barely anything to do down there either. Even the post game can be done in like an hour if you just follow those giant beacons. Not that there's much else to discover in between those boss encounters..
>>723854374Well that's sorta what happens when you release a sequel that sorta feels underbaked as soon as you get to the Cat desert area. The main guy behind the IP quits the company. Lack of word on any plans for a DLC or to support the game any longer and the pestering feeling the game was only approved to be an open world test for the engine for the upcoming Monster Hunter, resulting in the game likely being rushed out and undercooked even more than the potential people believed it had which was Dragons Dogma 1 but complete.
>>723856553>It quite literally is the exact same gameWhy do you 2 fans insist on lying?
>>723871898>point immediately proven
>>723872078You can actually get on top of that mountain if you've got a levitating vocation. Doesn't really matter since NG+ reveals the whole map, but still.
>>723872202Also, wall jump is so finnicky and shit. Maybe I could eventually bring myself to learn to do it properly, but I just don't feel the draw to engage with the game anymore. Double jump is waaay better.The shield jump for fighter was a nice addition though.
>>723858087This is what's most painful to me.DD2 has some great fundamentals. I feel like a lot of pieces are there, they just need to be tied into a coherent vision.It quite literally proves Itsuno's title as Potential Man
>>723872170kys /pol/tard
>>723872286There are some areas that you can only reach via harpy or shield jump. The chests are usually not worth the effort, but I appreciate that they at least tried to make it useful..
>>723872343BBI kinda proved that the DD formula works better as a dungeon crawler than some open world game. I think Itsuno wasn't able to cope with that.
>>723871832Same, enemy and player speed felt better. Jumping and running jump had you cover great distances fast. The core attacks not realigning and auto-targeting so much was infinitely more fun as well as having combos you had to creatively extend instead of infinite chains for mashers.The things 2 did better was to remove the stick waggle for grabs and being able to slam enemies into walls. The rest of the physics I don't care about because they look sluggish, ragdoll-y and silly. I guess standing on top of enemies to attack is ok too.
>>723854668>DD2 is no better or worse than DD1.>DD2 has no endgame dungeon (the everfall)Why even lie?
>>723865615One of it's most redeeming qualities. Shame there was no good armour customization for pawns, 90% of the best looking items were just bought from a store too.
>>723872652Everfall was hot garbage thoughever.
>>723866401Has an Odagaron theme mix to it.
>>723872717Even if it was (its not), it's far better than no endgame at all.
>>723854374DD was never goodIt had good IDEAS, but the game was hitSorry/not sorry
>>723865615I swear every female using that preset ends up looking the same.
>>723856873Or you just stood on a rock the wrong way and because its slanted too much and the devs are too retarded to level that part of the map, you stumble for little next to no reason.
>>723872652You forgot the fact that even DD1's end-game brought all the enemy variants across the entire map. In DD2 we got the Unmoored World, which was just skeletons, oh look, more skeletons with a trickle of Dragons dotted about.
>>723872493Deep down....
>>723872864Dragons that aren't even unique variants either.
>>723872912Wasted potential and yet games like Exoprimal and Pragmata get the green light. Capcom have no fucking clue what they're doing half the time
>>723872864Hey now, Dullahan's are also slightly more common in the Unmoored World!
>>723872841Truth nuke Dragon's dogma was always shit
DD2 is like ME3 or DA2. It stops you from replaying the games knowing what's next.
>>723872346How am I a /pol/tard? I'm simply upset that you're LYING and trying to imply that 1 and 2 play the same. We go through this same song and dance in every fucking Dragon's Dogma thread. You 2 cultists claim that the gameplay loop is the same, and us diehard fans of 1 break it down to you WHY its not.2 REMOVED>Animation cancelling via jumping, dodging, levitating, or blocking>6 Skills>2 Weapons per a vocation class>Layered Armor>Numerous Skills>Numerous Spells>Numerous Status Effects>Weapon combos like Dire Onslaught >Poise damaging perfect blocks which could be chained to knock down even giant enemies like Chimera>Enemies2 also has>No UR Dragon equivalent>No BBI equivalent>a fucking time limited post game unless you avoid resting (which is baffling when the post game content was the most beloved part of 1)>Fucking autoaim on your shield block (seriously, wtf? it was perfect in 1)Let's also talk about how>you can only use 3 skills as a wayfarer if you want to swap between weapons without PAUSING the game>how inventory management is significantly worse; how there isn't even a deposit all button when you're going to inn keepers to manage your storage >how enemies are noticeably less aggressive on top of having far less health >the changed FOV, which is closer to your character, making it so you can see less of your surroundings in combat. You have to download a fucking mod if you want the FOV from the first gameBut its the same game though, right? I've given 2 multiple chances (most recently in August), and I just cant' deal with it. I fucking hate the game, and its very clear that Itsuno doesn't even understand why 1 was so beloved. I personally grew up on Dragon's Dogma I. I'm a man in my mid twenties, but I've been replaying Dragon's Dogma one since I was fucking twelve years old. So I don't appreciate you trying to gaslight me or others into thinking that 1 and 2 are exactly the same in terms of combat.
>>723872912>>723872989It's weird how Capcom has been chasing the live service market for decades now and yet they keep churning out the dumbest attempts while killing off all the shit that has actual potential.
>>723873141>DD2 is like ME3 or DA2.Not true. The story in Dragon's Dogma I doesn't matter, so the quality of 2 has no bearing on Dragon's Dogma I. I still love Dragon's Dogma I, even though I despite Dragon's Dogma II
>>723873143King. I have also played so much DD1 it's insane.
>>723872864That’s not true unmoored covers the world in all the grim variants of enemies and those weird puss dragons are there too Man I just wanted a dungeon to use my cool Warfarer setup in the game ended just as I was having fun
>>723873143which youtuber gave you that list of ragebait?
>>723873339He’s from the discord they’ve been compiling and editing their list for years now. I think they mostly focus on Wilds nowadays though.
>>723856328Dont waste your time, they are obvious shitposters lying to get (you)s
>>723873339No one. I was simply playing Dragon's Dogma 1 before /v/ even knew about it. I'm literally one of the og fans who used to post on the gamefaq boards back when the game was still obscure>>723873387Ebin. Give me one second faggot. I'm gonna boot up my Xbox 360 and show you the timestap on some of my achievements for Dragon's Dogma
DD2 is pretty good.But it could have been fantastic, and that's the worst part about it. Just one expansion like BBI and some QoL shit would make it a certified banger.But no, FUCKING CAPCOMFUCKKKKKING CAPCOMHAD TO MAKE A FUCKING GAY DINO GAME AND THEN A GAY MONSTER HUNTER FUCK CAPCOM FUCKKK
>>723873387asmongold?
>>723873143Add under 2 REMOVED>No Gloves>No Undershirt>No Pants
Ok but WHY THE FUCK did they change Hindsight Slash into a retarded roll??
>>723873480>DD2 got sacrificed for a Monster Hunter game that people don't even likeWhat a Monkey's Paw scenario.
>>723873654Yep, it's such a fucking travesty.
>>723872597To add to the ones you listed, I quite liked that attacks would slightly adjust themselves toward the enemy rather than just going forwards like in DDDA. If you're attacking a harpy, your swords swings a little higher, if you're attacking a downed enemy it goes down etc.
>>723873654>Monkey's Paw scenario.Damn, it really is. I finished Wilds in the first weekend and only went back for Shia. Still haven't been back since. Yet I managed to put 200 hours into DD2.
>>723873421>>723873387>>723873339Timestap of an achievement I got from 2013. The ones from 2012 aren't showing up because Xbox Live has been down for years, but my point here still stands. I've been a Dogma fan for over a decade, so don't fucking insult me or my intelligence by trying to tell me that Dragon's Dogma 2 plays the same as Dragon's Dogma >>723873546I hate that faggot. Don't try to associate me with a boogeyman to try and diminish what I've said, all of which is true.
>>723873143>But its the same game though, right?Yes.
>>723873698I hated that because I loved intimately knowing my character's attack hitboxes and using the right animations to reach particular weakspots. It made the difference between a bad and good player shine when you saw somebody use a move's hitbox in a weird way. It also had you think more about what to use on armored enemies that you strove to avoid hitting their armored parts and getting stuck in a recovery animation.
>>723873919so fuck off to a dd1 thread you miserable freak.
>>723874024This is the dd1 thread.
>>723874050No it isn't.
>>723874074Yes it is.
>>723874074>thread starts with a DD1 image and topic about how DD1 threads can never happen again.Guess you're right...
>>723874036>We've gone all-out>So, here are desert people that look like cats>...>Yeah, that's pretty much it
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>>723874206>What is this man saying!?
>>723865850>shelve>3 weeks after game's release >it's a major franchise guys>6 months after release>sold an additional 200k copies according to the financial report >over a year after release>zero mentioning of any sales numbers in the financial reportsit's over, Dragon's Dogma as a franchise is killed
>>723873919BTW, here is one of my friend's from Steam. I'm gonna go out on a limb here and say that I don't think he enjoys Dragon's Dogma 2 either. Maybe he didn't get the memo that 2 plays the exact same as 1.
>>723874206>Oh fuck he doesn't know that dd2 is just a sacrifice for mhwilds
mental illness aside, how's dragons dogma online? the private servers any fun?
>>723874206
Thats a lot of crapcom shills for a DD thread, are we getting another dogshit update soon or something?
>>723874253This. Capcom is extremely petty. They'll bury everything Itsuno has worked on, just like they did with Inafune.You can put DD2 alongside Lost Planet 2 now.
>>723874253>it's over, Dragon's Dogma as a franchise is killedThere's always a chance for a reboot by someone like Kinoshita.
>>723874261Not him, but I managed to get 200 hours out of DD2 before never returning. I had that horrible copium of wanting the game to be worth it and it just wasn't. I think I even went so far as to do NG+ about 10+ times, but even then the NG+ cycle on 2 is a fucking drag in comparison to 1. Just barely any fun. A BBI-type dungeon crawl DLC would help it but not save it. DD1 for me especially was mainly about customizing pawns or other random people's pawns for fun.
>>723874395There are also genuine bandwagoners that only played DD1 for the first time while waiting for 2. Rushed to finish all of the content without really understanding what made DD1 tick and settled for 2 being superior because that's what they wanted to play from the start anyway. They are often allergic to non photorealistic graphics and snappy character movements.
>>723874501Replaying DD2 becomes a nightmare when you realize you have to do all the Vernworth fetch quests over and over again.
i like both games. i have more hours in 2 because i like being able to stand on moving objects or watching wandering pawns/npcs get mauled to death but i still end up missing the fashion options whenever i play 2. then i play 1 and end up looking at an abandoned mining shack and wishing i could camp there. that sort of thing.
>>723874660Even if that was the case, theres an extreme amount of flat out lying to defend DD2, like the performance. Just seems like extreme case bad faith shilling.
>>723874715Same i was happy to have a new adventure just wish it could have been better
>>723858960>>723859027>"There's lots of things like her in the game!">there actually aren't and it's a major complaintclearly the DLC needs to add more sphinxes
Given how every game has a dedicated schizo maybe its better there not be a regular DD thread
>>723874685>all the Vernworth fetch questsYou only had to do certain ones, it feels like so long ago but I do remember having a tactic for it but again yeah, a ballache. They were meant to be a throwback to the Wyrm Hunt quests in 1 but failing to be anywhere as good.
>>723874797performances werent that bad desu
>>723874036How did crapcom went away with it and why are shills still defending this shit company?
>>723874918At least the Wrym Hunt quests had fighting and traveling. The "stealth" and "intrigue" quests in Vernworth made me wanna kill myself.
>>723874941How much was that post? 50 cents? a dollar?
>>723872912It still hurts bros
>>723854374I like this picture a lotI only played DDA after the hype that rose with DD2 and I was disappointed. The game seems to be intentionally unfair to make up for the fact that you constantly cheese shit. Worse than Skyrim in that regard.
>>723854523Happened with Arcane. Season 2 erased my desire to think about the series at all when I was a rabid bootlicking fanboy before S2.
>>723874989That that time spent doing stupid broken mechanic quests only for it to lead nowhere and the plot to fall off a cliff.
>>723874685especially in comparison to the Wyrm Hunt quests which feel designed specifically to be replay-friendly>here's four quests>complete two of them (or all if you want)>each takes you somewhere new on a first playthrough and it's easy to rush two of them on a repeat playthrough
>>723861197Souls has been nothing if not discussed to death for the last 13 years what the hell are you on about
>>723855992It's in our nature to keep fighting even for a single glimmer of hope. But the second that hope turned out to be shit, we lost all the fighting spirit.
Battahal had too many enemies in there.Quest system needed a massive redesign and overhaulNeeded more enemy varietyDungeons need to be recreated and should have better drops rather than just city vendors having the best.Needed a snow mapNeeded a swamp/jungle mapJust copy Diablo 2 maps lol.Needed a hoplite buildMystic spear was really cool, enjoyed the armor for the classes honestly. Camping needed to be better, locations, systems, how you should make potions...Wilds outdid themselve son the camping with all the different cooking animations and variety, whereas DD2 was just pork.mp4
>>723861298>Old retro games like VTMB and Kotor avoid schizosHave you been in any VtmB thread in the last 24 hours?
>>723854374what is there to talk about? DD was discussed to death and DD2 is just 1 but worse
An underrated game ahead of its time gets a sequel far too late, where even the directors and developers forgot what made it so good. Not to mention it was rushed to market for a shareholder quarter to be more profitable due to Wilds being delayed into the next quarter.
>>723855064Love that lil nigga.
>>723873919I don’t know why you think having DD1 cheevos absolves you of being a discord shit stirrer lol
>>723857498What the fuck was their problem?
>>723875108About three fiddy.Performance issues were way overblown. Only in the city could it be considered an issue.
>>723854374How did BOTW/TOTK get away with no enemy variety and no difficulty, while DD2 didn't?>inb4 muh physics puzzle shrinesI doubt most people cared about them that much.
>>723876459If your game has to look like a blurry AA mess to run well, it doesnt run well.
Can't believe I (we) hyped this shit up, lmao. I guess it's karma for being uppity.To the aquafag if you're here: I concede defeat. But you're still a bitch lol.
>>723876491Now you're just making stuff up.
>>723876558Keep projecting.
>>723876490Unknown IP to most people.That's why Capcom's microtransactions get a free pass on their other games (every MH/RE player knows they're worthless), but talking heads created drama about it with DD2.
>>723875178was it that bad? I remember people glazing over the first season.
>>723876490It is always okay when Nintendo does anything.
>>723876571What manner of mental illness brings (you) to speak so confidently about shit you have no clue about?The supposed performance-issues were completely overblown. The game looks fine and it plays fine.You've obviously never played the game and you get all your information from 3rd parties.I strongly suggest you kill yourself at your earliest convenience. Do not delay.
I really hope crimson desert delivers the experience that DD2 would if it wasn't rushed, when are those gooks releasing that?
>>723876869According to the Steam page, 19th March 2026.
can you still make lolipawns in the second game>try the first game that /v/ masturbates over>make warrior character followed up by lolihealer>check other pawns>it's either musclemommies or lolihealers
>>723876694Shut your mouth faggot shill
>>723877309No, they nuked the min height before release, there was prerelease footage that proved it was shorter but capcom being gay, nuked it.
>>723876537what thing could he mean, the game has everything...grasslands, caves, a sphinx
>>723854668>DD2 is no better or worse than DD1.Incorrect. It did a couple of things better with regard to combat mechanics, and then did every single other thing worse.
>>723877489and blocked cave mouths, no final boss, no postgame challenge to really test your party...
DD2 is DD without any real thought given to the setting or story, which would be fine but that's what carried DD so it's ultimately forgettable when you've wrapped up
>>723877473They even have small character NPCs. Removed from gameplay out of pure spite for gamers
>>723854668It's somewhat worse than DDDA but you need to understand the context behind it.Og DD was a good game with unique mechanics and a its own charm that feel under the radar for admittedly explainable reasons.Then Dark Arisen came, added a lot of good shit and helped carry the game as a sleeper hit in America, which over the years allowed Capcom to see the merit in making a sequelSaid sequel finally arrives after years of hype and promises of a better development, with larger creative freedom for Itsuno and a higher budget, giving people hope that it could fix the issues with 1.And then, the game is just pretty much the same game as the first with all the mistakes repeated.You can't repeat a cult hit. The freshness and charm that made people overlook the flaws in the original don't hit twice.
>>723855494>The only things missing are huge tits.lolwut
>>723877389So you're just retarded then.My suggestion still stands.It is in your own interest to kill yourself as soon as possible.
>>723857710newfag
>>723865954Meleefags are fucking obnoxious and can't stop talking about how great Melee is and how they won't touch the new releases, you don't see anyone who plays 3rd Strike behaving like that despite the similarity, they've earned their reputation.
>>723878017You gotta try harder than that, shill.
>>723876490one is a game with children in mindthe other used to be one with children in gameBotw is decently challenging, enemy variety was fine because it made up for their behavior variety. TOTK enemy variety is a joke though.>people don't care about puzzles in a Zelda gamenow you are being disingenuous.
>>723876869Can you be a mage there, though?
>>723854668>>723856468Trying to separate DD1 from Dark Arisen is the saddest cope ever from DD2 fags. No one's playing base DD1 in the current yearImagine if Elden Ring came out and the fans were trying to compare it not with PTDE with all the DLC and patches, but with the unpatched PS3 version of Dark Souls. It's basically an admission of defeat lol
>>723854374there was not much to talk about first game anymore and game is older than most of posters nowadays
>>723877889>It's somewhat worse than DDDADDDA is a top tier cult classicDD2 was an underwhelming flop with zero redeeming qualitiesI had more fun with DD1's demo than I did with 2.
How do you go from loli wife being the default choice in DD1 to lolis being extinct in DD2
>>723878585It's also the saddest cope from DD1fags. Whenever someone starts talking about DD1 fondly it's always just BBI. A shitty gacha-lite gamemode that has nothing to do with DD.It is warranted to separate the two.
>>723878725DEI
Even disregarding the gameplay I'm just not interested in the world of DD beyond Dark Arisen.
>>723871387>Posting empty ass elden goyslopKek sad
>>723878746Mega cope>Whenever someone starts talking about DD1 fondly it's always just BBINot true at all, the whole game is great
>>723857498This is the type of mental illness that the medical world won't even know about, and its prevalent all over the internet in general. It will never be studied or diagnosed because these people never leave their house.
>>723857762Unironically marrying Fournival means you know where he'll be at all times post-game, instead of waiting for him to walk down the steps in Gransys.
>>723878898>couldn't find a single ER screenshot without something cool in itsad
>>723858165>The post title drop section will never be a fully fleshed out gameFirst time that logo hit I honestly thought for a split second that I was only halfway through and the game finally begun. Would have been great.
>>723878902Wrong.
>>723879227Consume the rollslop good goy
>>723879327What do you think DD is, a DMClike?
dragon's DOGshit 2 fags always go full mask off whenever you mention Dragon's GODma 1 or Dragon's GODma Online (the real DD2)The truth is, they have no respect for Dragon's Dogma and its legacy. Yet, they cling to it like a parasite. Whenever someone praises DD1, they bring up the "only BBI content is good and talked about", showing their jealousy and envy over the original Dogma. The DDO team understands what the fans love about Dragon's Dogma. An action-adventure game with interesting classes to play as and mythical creatures to fight. This is a worthy sequel to DD1, despite its flaws.
>>723879897Just scrolling and saw your awful and gay post and had to stop by to let you know you are a faggot
Can you create all of your pawns in DD2?
>>723865954I hate the new paint
>>723879897>The DDO team understands what the fans love about Dragon's DogmaClearly not, since they never released it in the West, so who gives a shit. Private servers are pointless too.
>>723878306i'll give smelee fags this, as atrocious as the fgc community they built is, nintendo literally sticks as many fucking hurdles as possible for it to sustain anything healthy. Alot of hubbub was about slippy getting taken down but im still pissed Project M isnt even allowed at most shit due to the big N nowadays. At that point whats the alternative? play a clone by a publisher thats nicer that plays 20x worse?tl;dr melee fags legitimately can't move on to a new thing when they try.but now that i think about it, maybe thats how melee and other games with shit like that sustain themselves. When a fanbase of an old (multiplayer) game is constantly going through issues, ends up becoming a self perpetuating cycle of people complaining about it (loudly) and new niggas flowing into the scene. that or their just the most noticable (aka have threads).meanwhile, new thing good old thing bad is alot harder to pick up steam when its a single player game and considered more subjective, especially if the newer worse game is only like, 6/10 instead of a humangosauce dumpster fire like star fox zero.
>>723880293Same as in DD1.
>>723865850Wilds has more than 5 monsters, it's a significantly better game than DD2
>>723881886No it isn't faggot.
>>723880217That's fair, I think you're a faggot too.
>>723878481not from what I've seen, which is bullshit because black desert have like 5 caster classes to choose from
why are there so many vocal defenders of dd2 anyway? it was happening within days of the launch so you can't say they settled on it and decided they really did like it. did the wait and release of a poor sequel mindrape them that much? is it shitposters? there's almost not a single thing to prefer in 2 as made clear by this thread. even if you removed bbi I love the everfall and so many things in 1 like the water cave or the catacombs. everything in 2 blurs together for me.
>>723878746The lot system wasn't why it was relevant. The important critical feature that Dark Arisen added was a long dungeon that provided a significant increase in challenge. It was basically what the Everfall should have been. Dark Arisen BBI makes much more use of all the games mechanics/debililitations than most of the base game. It gave the player an area to utilize the really good combat system to it's full potential when it was usually wasted on most base game encounters excluding like 2 Everfall chambers. That is one of the major reasons why DD2 is shitass. Not every game needs to be a sweaty difficulty gauntlet, but DD2 is the opposite. You pretty mop the floor with any enemy in the game in DD2 extremely early and there is no area that actually gives the combat system a place to shine or even rain to exist. Why do all these moves? As an archer you can just press X to aimbot 90% of the encounters easily. That's how mindnumbingly easy DD2 is.
>>723879242Right
>>723883740Unironically its capcom shilling.
>>723883813>As an archer you can just press X to aimbot 90% of the encounters easily.You say that as if that's not a thing in DD1.
Dragon's Dogma 2 is a better game than 1. In all respects except the pruning of amount of skills classes can have.
>>723883740DD2 was unfairly treated and most DD2-enjoyers will acknowledge the flaws while DD1-enjoyers will vehemently insist that it's the bestest game ever and can do no wrong and DD2 is poopy doody sloopy.What you're seeing is simply people having sane opinions with regards to DD2 and you erroneously assume it's shills because you're a polarized faggot not far removed from retards like >>723884459.
>>723884710It's not. In DD1 you at least had to aim. In DD2 you press X.
>>723884890Nigger, most DD1-fans agreed that it was a rough diamond. There are even players that say that the main game is boring and only BBI is worth playing.Not to mention the technical problems on the PS3 and 360.
>>723884947>In DD2 you press X.Sure if you like wasting your time since it'll fire center of mass instead of weakpoints.
>>723884890your game is dogshit and so ass capcom pretends it doesn't exist now LOL
>>723885053That goes for dragon's dogma as a whole dumbass.Typical self-own. You'd cut off your own nose just to spite your face.
>>723876490>why do n.inte.ndro.nes happily eat slo.p when other fanbases refuse to?
>>723854374Despite all the backslash DD2's gameplay looks fun. Maybe I will finally try it.
>>723883740>it was happening within days of the launchFunny how you magically forget the 2 weeks of schizophrenic shitposting before launch, you disingenuous faggot.
>>723885035You don't need to aim. In a very short of playtime and with a weapon you buy from the base vendor in Vernworth you do so much damage and enemies have so little health a couple taps of X will solve most encounters, that is if your pawn doesn't one tap everything first. Even when you get to Buttbutthole the enemies are still wet paper. Ever Gorechimeras are a joke. I had to lift a finger while a fiver path stun locked it to death with basic ass gear.
>>723884890This disingenuous bullshit is what makes you an obvious shill, you make outlandish claims, lie and then expect anyone to take you seriously.
>>723885143why would I want more? capcom is the worst they've ever been currently and nobody there knows why 1 was praised. let it die
>>723885886You got your wish, so why are you still mad?
My biggest complaint is just the lack of variety when it comes to classes, they all seem unique I just want more of them
>>723854374>Insane how DD2's release killed dragon's dogma discussion off for goodMeanwhile, reality shows you start a thread and its about to hit cap. Truth is DD2 is a great game, it just should have been greater because of the hype behind it and long wait for a sequel, but alas, crapcom rushed the game out the door to please shareholders for that fiscal year, as MHW wasnt going to come out till the next year, which also flopped, clearly underbaked as well.
>>723886536Correct, but this reality doesn't sit well with our resident schizos and so they'll continue to screech and mald.
>DD 2 is a great gameit outright stopped selling copies unlike other major titles like dmc, re or mh world/rise and because of that major fuck up, wilds/kamitsu and other future Capcom games are affected, get ready for the new Onimusha/Pragmata game selling like shit because people don't forget, but hey at least the shareholder may be happy again
A simple guide on how to know if your edition of Dragons Dogma is a good version:>It has Mystic KnightAh, yes, a fantastic game>It does not have Mystic KnightWorthless, unplayable, incomplete messSimple as
>>723887109>I interpretive dance in front of a pair of balls and call it fun MysticFags are an annoying bunch
The title screen popping up only after you reach world of ruin was pretty kino, it's just a shame the main story and all the characters tucked compared to the first game.Like I get that it was a metacommentary on game development and franchises, but that's no excuse to intentionally make a hollow game.
>>723887109What an incredible post>>723887419What a retarded post
>>723855775>literally every capcom game does this even as far back as dmc4's initial steam releaseYou're rightIf enough people follow a bad practice then it's not a bad practice anymore
>>723855119Never understood this "fell for the hype" meme. When they outright tried to sell you that less armor slots was a better system, you should had been wary. Then with the new height limit on the Character Creator demo (like loli or not, its was great litmus test). Personally, i lost all hope when the content creators reported a simplified control scheme, by that point the shit performance was just a cherry on top for me.
>>723887689>Like I get that it was a metacommentary on game development and franchisesThat was the ravings of an upjumped zealot. A post-game cope if you will.
>>723884828What they did to the armor layering system is a disgrace and significantly lowers the fun of pawn dress-up
>>723856793>the story and characters are exactly the same>charactersFucking kill yourself. None of the NPCs are remotely as memorable or interesting, and the new dragon sucks compared to Grigori.
>>723887109>>723887705Samefaggot kill yourself
>>723887705What an incredible post>>723888640What a retarded post
>>723856517No, not at all. Like 25% of the map is good, and it's filled with far too many shitty corridors and too few setpieces.
>>723856416How the fuck do you get lost for 5 fucking hours in DD2 fucking lmaooooooooo
>DD1has twintails>DDOhas twintails>DD2doesn't have twintailsOnly one of these games get shit on, I wonder why...Inb4 dd2fag posts the inferior sorry excuse of a "twintails"
>>723854374I loved the caves and small dungeons that you could stumble upon while walking around the world in 1 and it was one of my biggest wants for 2 to have more dungeons and caves.I've held off on playing the game because of it's mixed at best reception, but does it deliver on that front or not?
>>723889639so that's why I thought the game sucked...
>>723865954>it is at least a decent alternative to DD1 since it's basically just the same exact game with a new coat of paint and some added story.No it's not. It's DD1 but blackwashed and worse.
>>723854374Same goes with Monster Hunter.I don't think Monster Hunter will ever recover from the mountain pile of casualizations that Gen started and Wilds finished.
>>723865954the new paint is like molddd1 was like a tasty sandwich and 2 is just moldy
>>723854374Why is she drinking a flagon of cum?
>>723889937They spam the map with caves, theres no real dungeons.
>>723883740god forbid anyone enjoys what the /v/ hivemind doesn't
>>723854374i think i would like to put my large white penis inside of her if thats okay
>>723883740>why are there so many vocal defenders of dd2 anyway?autistic minority of shit eating trolls
>>723890428>no real dungeonsSo nothing like catacombs? What the hell
>>723889937
>>723890616There's catacombs and cave systems and hidden temples inside the caves. Don't listen to retards in denial.
>>723890428>cave abruptly ends in a caved in ancient archwayFucking crapcom and their constant need to rush things for shortsighted reasons.
>>723890417It's just cloudwine, her favorite gift
>>723890616I don't know how to say this properly but they are so featureless it's easy to get lost in them if they loop around. They make Oblivion caves seem very well made.It's one of the most glaring pieces of evidence supporting the argument that the game was insanely unfinished. That, alongside the enemy design being extremely lackluster and difficulty being non-existent.It's genuinely a bad game and feels completely unfinished. Highly recommend not buying it. Wait a few more years for mods, hopefully they'll fix it. There was one mod attempting to fix enemies but the guy gave up on it because Crapcom kept updating the game which fucked with all the mods.
does DD2 have a waifu anywhere near comparable to Mercedes or Madeleine?
>>723889639>dd2 doesn't have it (dd2 has like 12 different pairs)>"doesn't count"
>>723854374A shit sequel will reveal how shit the original was. I told you guys that you didn't want to get a sequel, especially from modern Crapcom that would rush it and demand it be filled with DLC. Itsuno obviously didn't have it in him to fight the suits about it and left the company heartbroken that he couldn't even work on his "dream project" without being pestered at every turn.
>>723891030Yes
DD2 schizo gets really mad when people like the game, lol
>>723890845Literally just caves, everything is baked into a cave.
>>723890616thrilling gameplay
>>723891030Yes.
>>723856553This is the dumbest shit people say in these threads. You're one of the retards that pretends BBI is the only good part of 1, aren't you?
>>723890387So true sis be sure to check the discord!
>>723891587>want dwarven smithing>have to choose between the race mixing dwarf or the nog wannabe dwarfFuck capcom.
Are there any other games that can give me the feeling DD2 gives me? That feeling of a real adventure.
>>723874253capcom killing monster hunter right after killing dragon's dogma was a special kind of retarded. and they killed both for the same reason too; number must go up.
>>723892316The nog's got a bit of dwarven in her if you catch my drift.
>>723890387According to DD1 if it was moldy it would be better>mmmm moldy grandgrape
>>723891064Itsuno has failed so many times by now it's pretty clear at this point he's either a hack, washed up, or both
