The game never introduces a better regular enemy after you encounter this guy
>>723867404If there was a boss and it was just this guy but he had 2x health and damage it would already be peakSilksong is so gay.
>>723867404hornet's 'nail' is subtle but these are just like human sized scissors. humans exist?
>>723867404I like the judges in blasted steps
>>723867504Don't think about it.
>>723867404Maestro
I really like these guys even though you can just run past them
>>723867714>just consume goy
>scared you shitless
>>723868000the flying guys down there scared me shirtless too
>>723867431Genuinely a well designed and well balanced enemy, it's sad that there's no boss version of this guy
Scissor guy is good
>>723868734>the boss gives you an upgrade version of Reaper crestKINOOOOO
>>723869716Upgraded reaper crest>Silk orbs magnet towards hornet>More silk orbs per hit>Last longer>Requires to be hit twice inorder to deactivateKino.
>>723867504
>>723868734Scissor sounds effected did scared me.. on headphones, it like he try to cutting my ear off.
>>723867404Greymoor was the best area just for the aesthetics alone>gothic as fuck>bleak rainy fields>ruined windmills>spikes and chains>crows>giant scissors>fight a giant fly with a hawk helmet while some manic transylvania violin plays
>>723868734These guys are so fun to fight They have good defenseDecent offense, and a large enough hp to take several hits It's the only enemy that felt like a fair duel between two bugs, and yeah I agree I fucking hate that there is no boss version of this enemy, this guy singlehandedly carries silksong for me honestly
Peak enemy, the only redeeming quality of silksong
I’m so fucking sick is flying enemies moving backwards while attacking, or moving up because you jumped.
>>723875172just use the clawline>but clawline is Act 2just do a charge attack>but I don't explorejust use straight pin>but I'm not a tool useruse reaper then>muh dee pee eassilk spear literally one taps them>saving silk for next gamea taunt>le hidden machanicThere are *looks up* 6 ways. c'mon, man. you're the one making yourself sick by being too stubborn.
>>723867404Even the design of this enemy is S tier, weapon is a comically large scissor and he carries that thing with aura, I mean look at himWhat an enemy, it truly never got better after this guy
I like them but they have zero ways of dealing with you in the air
I just went through the entire bestiary to try and refute this and I couldn't. Closest I could get was the Judges in Blasted Steps and maybe a handful of the Coral Tower enemies.
>>723873070I like Choral Caverns because of the music but Greymoor is pretty cool
>>723868000These things suck to deal with and I usually just skip them
>>723868000I don't like those FUCKING HOLES
>>723876361Bilewater tribesmen enemies are cool. The flying guards in citadel with the spear throwThe ant enemy roster is generally really fun to fight in a group
>>723876715Yeah those are okI actually like the ants more than scissorman but OP said>never introduces a better regular enemy after you encounter this guyand those are encountered beforehand, so I couldn't include themI guess technically I could pretend I skipped Hunter's March so that I can count the skarrs
>>723868734Video should be updated to showcase them being able to burrow through the floor and ceiling to reach you if you're above or below them
>>723877018Problem for me is that the scissor guys are rarely fought in more than 1v1s. Citadel enemies, while individually weaker (apart from the flying guys) are fought in groups and are enjoyable for this reason. The whole group of pilgrims (and the occasional clawmaiden) must be taken into account.
Why the fuck was there no boss version of the scissorbug?? Wasted potential man
>DUDE LIKE, YOU CAN'T POGO WITH THE HUNTER CREST, THE REAPER IS THE BESTdoes no one have an original opinion anymore? it's obvious they all took the same opinion from reddit
>>723877201This is true. The only time you fight a scissor guy with an ally is when there are 2 of them in the reaper chapel, and even then the AI will likely have one of the scissorguys burrow into the roof so it's one at a time.
Is that guy talking about crests a bot? Nobody mentioned crests at all
>>723877678why are you angry
>>723877678Aything to keep the thread alive.
>>723868734When I go through this area now I just smack them from underneath the platformAnnoying little shits
>>723867404>pogo spam enrmy
>>723877709i am curious, not angrywe're all friends here
>>723875790I can deal with them it’s just always annoying seeing the invisible tether their on. I just ignore them now since it’s not an enjoyable fight
>>723877786Yeah this. This game had too many enemies that were weak to pogo spam in general.
>>723877732What is better hk or silk in ur guys opinion. Haven't finished hk yet
>>723877563I still haven't used any of the crests I got outside of the reaper for the door guard because I kept flubbing the runback with the hunter down attack and my silk economy was atrocious.I probably wont play with the crests until I play again or something I have no idea what the tool tips are trying to tell me. For example I just awakened??? the hunter crest and now something something it somethings???? Looks like a bar fills up and then something when the bar is full???
>>723877937when bar is full you hit harderwhen you get hit, bar is empty again
>>723877563Hunters pogo is dog shit for a lot of boss fights because you get a way smaller window to land it because you need to react way sooner meaning you get less hits in. Really fucking awkward design, you’d think hunter would be what everything is designed around but they you swap to reaper or wayfarer and it’s far easier. The passive is also a just don’t get hit ever lmao which good for you if you’ve always got it up.
>>723868734If I had to pick my favorite enemy in Silksong, it wouldn't be one with an AI that doesn't know to react to being poggoed to death.
The couple of clockwork mace+shield guys in blasted waste
This nigga is far better, not a single enemy is as fun as this bastard
>>723877563I think witch crest is kino
>>723878383I can't see how jumping and side stepping is fun. TBF I can't see how fighting any regular enemy is fun.
>>723878383>Dash away>Dash in>Dash away>Dash inHow so?
>>723867404disagree the high speed frogs are pretty based
>>723878261Anon...those were bugs...you murdered real bug beings... you're a murderer...
>be hunter>struggle with boss>swap to wanderer >rip to to pieces in half the time Every time. Basic attacks doing the same damage across all crests was a mistake
>>723878480unfortunately that applies to most enemies and also bosses when you really get down to it
>>723878480I like using the cross stitch and the Hunter dash attack + pogo combo
>*throws bell*>can't hit me hehe>*throws bell*>can't hit me hehe>*throws bell*>can't hit me hehe
>>723878731Clawline check
>>723878480That's a hollow knight problem.
>>723867404Why is he aura farming
>>723877563I pogo just fine with Wanderer
How do I play the Shaman crest? Is its binding is just nerfed as fuck normal binding?
>>723867404The only regular enemy that's fun to fight, every other regular enemy sucks and more importantly not fun kino scissorman
>>723868000The holes are fucking gross did not kill a single one of these
>>723868000They're weak to pogo though
>>723879309Always have Injector Band on vesticrest slot for survival. One of the two main slots must always be Volt Filament no question. Spam silk skills and nuke things. Heal ONLY on the ground and NEVER in the air. Pogo enemies too. Or theow on Pinstress Badge and Longclaw and abuse the godlike charge attack
>>723867504They used to.
I never thought about the fact Shakra literally does that to Hornet
GMS did nothing wrong
>>723878383>>723867404Wrong. Step aside.
uwah~
>Craws in Act 1 when you're piss weak and forced into a gauntletfffffffuck these fucking BIRDS fuck FUCK>Craws in Act 3 when you're op asf and get the summonsHehe these guys are so goofy and goated
>>723881871I unironically masturbated with her voice, but looking at anime big tits
>>723881871Hnnnnnggggghhh
>>723882268Claw line enables so much and my only flaw is remembering to use it smartly. I'm still in the HK mindset where the dash is your best mobile tool
>>723882268Scissorman isn't a craw though, he's a bug but it would actually been cool if there was a variant of the craw wilding scissors tooI even have an idea for a boss design where it's that, a craw wilding scissors, and the second phase would be hornet breaking the scissor in half and craw would use half of the scissor as a great sword and now he's faster cause it's 2nd phase and he's mad you broke the scissors
>>723867404Hey it's the guy that pops through the floor but you can run past him anyway
>>723881871>>723880891>>723878731>>723878383>>723867823>>723867404>GET BACK TO WORK SINNERS!!!
>>723883337>t.
>>723881871Do they actually make that sound?
>>723883406I was too fucking stupid to realize you could just pogo on him whenever he does his corpse shooty move instead of dodging every single projectile, then when i figured it out i killed him in like 3 tries. You can even sort of damage him with the reaper pogo.
>>723867404Greymoor was so kino, it reminded me alot of the fishing hamlet in bloodborne. Impeccable atmosphere, I can't decide if I like it or bilewater more
>>723883584I got annoyed that pogoing him didn't damage him until I put 2 and 2 together that pogoing is for repositioning, not damage. I am a retarded who only see reward in the white damage flash and ignores everything else
>>723883792Bilewater took time for me to like. Ironically I took to liking Bilewater after I killed Groal. Then I started noticing the story of the location rather than just being mad that I hadn't seen a bench in forever
>>723883947Many such cases. Most of the complaints about the game are from people that are mechanistically fixated in progression and aren't paying attention to environmental cues or dietetic narrative. That walk into a room and are mad that there's an ambush without ever noticing the pile of corpses all around.Once you start experiencing the game rather than just playing it, it improves immensely.
>>723867823VAHNO
>>723884241That's how one appreciates a work of art. Bilewater is peak
Everyone's most-hated enemy is the flying bellheads in Deep Docks that throw bombs at you, right? Does ANYONE actually like them? Feels like Team Cherry outdid Primal Aspids ten times over.
>>723877876They're different games with different mechanics. Hornet is much faster and more agile than the Knight and it's reflected in Silksong's combat balance. The Knight is tankier and, towards the endgame, has better zone control, so is less focused on mobility.You can make combat in Silksong more like Hollow Knight's by equipping the Wanderer's Crest, but that doesn't change Hornet's inherent fragility. She's meant to be played in a dodge/parry style regardless of her specific attack moveset.I like them both but I would have preferred if late game Silksong offered more durability options, especially with the sheer damage output of Act III enemies.
>>723873070Yeah Greymoor was a mood. Not flashy or impressive, but it hit right.
Can you not recruit BOTH Garmond and Shakra to fight the Choir with you?
>>723884241Well I think that can be a good thing, at least to people who actually like video games. I firmly believe games should "do don't tell." If the narrative is that a place is hostile then the place should feel hostile. And while I do think Silksong is a hard game, there's nothing so bad that you can't see what you did wrong, which is the good kind of difficulty. It was rare for me to die to a blind jump. Most of the time it was>I was rushing and I fell into a spike trap>I got flustered by an enemy and missed a pogoPeople single out the bench traps and say that Silksong hates you when those are, more often than not, the exception and not the rule. After it finally clicked and my skill caught up to the level I was able to appreciate that this was a place ruined by the Citadel and is now hostile to any outsiders. Like The Choir, or the guy they killed, or Hornet.
>>723884838>Primal Aspids, the boss
>>723885052Bigly agree. There are two bench traps in the entire game and they are both clearly telegraphed both in their immediate environment and in their wider context within the biomes they appear in.People also tend to lump in the defective bench on Sinners Road even though it's clearly telegraphed that there's something nearby that's causing problems with it.
>>723884937No, Shakra overrides Garmond and Garmond doesn't even show if you acidentlly missed his Greymoor fight by moving the caravan too soon.
>>723883947I'm a sucker for oppressive, trap filled areas that really want you dead, much like sens fortress (I recognize I keep alluding to fromsoft like a fag) I really enjoyed overcoming and sometimes being overwhelmed by all the obstacles, makes for a very satisfying victory at the end of it all. hunters march is up there too for me as well for similar reasons
>>723885605I would like to point out that my reactions are dog shit. But I was still able to dodge the Hunter's March trap. I didn't even discover the hidden wall to disarm it until later, I just continued to Pilgrim's Rest. But if I were to take the discourse at face value then everyone lost 3 masks to every 3rd bench in each area
>>723884838I like them in that one gauntlet cause you can hit the bombs back and it blows up everything else for you
>>723885679You can still get Garmond to help in High Halls even if you skipped Moorwing
>>723885717The only thing that sucks about Bilewater is that because it was really the only zone that felt like it offered a challenge, the devs routed like 5 different quests through it so it starts to get a bit repetitive. They should have made at least one more "fuck you" area.
>>723882410Based
>>723867404except this one
>>723867404So what happened to Pure Vessel?
>>723886404I wonder if adding more of them would sort of strip bilewaters charm of being THAT part that you dread (in a good way). i don't recall there being too many quests there but I'm still not finished with act 3. in any case I agree with it being one of the only genuinely challenging sections and with the way the difficulty was hyped up by everyone here I was expecting much worse. turns out /v/ really is just full of shitters
>>723867404*ahem*POLARIS
>>723884838no, the worst is this fucker >>723886658
>>723883406This nigga is the worst shit ever seen, boring ass runback, atrocious hitboxes and a ton of hp, is the only act 2 boss that I can't do in less than 5 attempts
>>723887435you just lure them to the carnivorous plant
>>723886939He broke out of the egg, and Hornet thought he was there to square upBit it turns out he was actually chill and went on his merry way.He'll be the MC of HK3.
>>723884241Everything that makes Bilewater top 3 areas is what Putrified ducts lacks, I still don't understand why that area exist.
>Crow-bugs>Rat-bugs>Mole-bugs>My-little-pony-bugs
>>723888110Yeah I got the impression they want to expand away from just having bug creatures
>>723867404Why couldn't you just say "this is my favorite regular enemy"?
>>723867504Actually these scissors are forged by bugs in the image of Silk's extremities.
>>723887697Clearly leftover from the excision of Pharloom Bay. In the shipped game, it only exists to connect the top of Bilewater back to the Memoriam, and as an obstacle course to reach Fleatopia.Ecstacy of the End and Passing of the Age are the only reasons to ever go through Putrified Ducts after your first visit when you get the Key of Apostate, and neither are actually needed to complete the game.
>>723878032Reaper is slow dogshit, you're just bad at vidya if you don't like hunter
>>723887672>He'll be the MC of HK3.>Hollow initiates the void infection.>Hornet spreads the void infection.Will Pure Vassel stop it, or will it ultimately help the void infection consume everything?
>>723888397RIP Pharloom Bay. Bilewater would've been all-time if it contained a semi-secret village containing friendly NPCs. Horny's goals aligned completely with the Stilkins, they should've been an option to team up. It would've been a "not all Weavers" moment. As it is, Hornet is just as much of a psychopathic maniac as her mother and aunties.
>>723888724The st*lkins want to kill all bugs in pharloom, not just the weaver cunts
>>723888703He has the power of light since the Radiance was inside him for so long.Paladin game.
>>723888869Are they wrong, though?
>>723888869Then they should get on swimmingly, as Horny spends the entire game slaughtering every bug she comes across.
>Hunter and Reaper have the exact same Tool setupShit game design.Reaper should've had 2 white slots instead of 2 red
>>723889003Yes, as most bugs in pharloom weren't even born when bilewater was ruined>>723889098Hornet can sense hostile intent and mindlessness and only kills when there's no chance of peace. On at least two occassions she cooperates with bugs that want to kill and eat her but which she can tell from a moment's observation are smart enough not to try it.
>>723888703>Hollow initiates the void infection.>Hornet spreads the void infection.wait, are we the good guys or the bad guys?
>>723888724>Hornet is just as much of a psychopathic maniac as her mother and aunties.Hey man, give Herrah a fair shake. She explicitly adviced Hornet not to listen to the rest of the Weavers.
>>723877876Silksong, HK was my favorite game, but Silksong just feels so much better to play, and everything is so much higher budget
The protagonist of HK3 will be the Hollow Knight himself, but you'll only start realising this as you progress through the game.
>>723889278Good because void is based
>>723889565He has pretty distinct horns, dude.
>>723889278>are we the good guys or the bad guys?we are insects.
>>723889620Give him horn attacks and make a late game upgrade turn his into the final HK horns.>Oh
>>723889165I'm just annoyed they wasted a crest on the knight moveset
>>723886939>>723887672That's my theory too. Would you really have a cliffhanger cutscene like that if they *really* were about to fight? Of course not, it makes no sense in a trope/narrative sense.
>>723887672>Pure Vessel goes all Pale King and starts an empire of bugs>Bad stuff starts happening>You play as Quirrel and work with the Pure Vessel to try and stop the bad stuff happening>The final boss is you confronting Pure Vessel who explodes and reveals that all along it was just THAT. FUCKING. MOTH.
>>723883406How can one ass be so fat
>>723889334That's fair. That big bitch wasn't a bad egg. >>723889271Don't know how much Horny is paying you for this sub-par PR whitewashing but her behaviour is beyond excuse nor justification. She had no possible motive other than the sadistic joy of homicide when she invaded the mind palace of the Green Prince and literally cut his heart out. In any civilised Kingdom she would be classed as a serial killer of historical proportions. She calls herself a "hunter", your client does, yet her "prey" are, for the most part, themselves victims of puppeteering by a god. If she had any heart, and she should, since she makes such a habit of collecting them, your client would've weaved (excuse the pun) her way around the poor enslaved bugs of Pharloom, entered the monarch's royal cocoon chamber, and made her complaint via words, not violence. If she wasn't to quick to kill, perhaps she wouldn't have ruined and destroyed the once majestic kingdom of Pharloom.
>>723890242>Trobbio is the main villainBait.
which one?
>>723890583They're all shit really, but the coolest one is the original.
>>723890583All are dogshit, but the original is the best, even if you can't use it in like 3 arenas at best
>>723890583Original.
>>723867504Pale beings are humans
>>723878731>*throws bell*>dodge it by dashing back>it bounces for a few seconds on the floor losing all momentum>hits you anywayInfuriating enemy.
>>723890813>Pale King was a human>but he threw that away to be king to a bunch of bugsNot implausible
>>723879309equip weavelight and play like a pussy they'll die in under 10 casts
>>723886658fuck that piece of flying shitstain
>>723888724>>723889098Allying with them out of shared hatred for the Citadel is exactly the same idea the snail shaman had and they just strung him up to drain his power instead. They'd likely attempt the same with Hornet.
>>723888916>Paladin game.Fallen Paladin.
>>723891952I get it, but she could've proved herself to them. She could've brought them, I don't know, 20 scalps from citadel bugs. God knows the game likes to give you little chores. 20 scalps to prove you Hate just as much as the Bileniggas do, then they relax.
>>723890583Original because it costs the least
>>723892105I could see a quest where you forge an alliance and then they backstab you, but I can't see any outcome where they honour their word. Would be kinda neat actually, big fakeout where you think you're gonna raise an army against the citadel and they turn on you to fuck things up even more
>>723892321Kek the devs would LOVE this idea. This is exactly the type of shit that they conceived and implemented over the years, snickering to themselves
what was his problem
>>723892763He judged Hornet guilty of collaborating with the Snails in dooming Pharloom.
>>723888703>>723889278Kino. This is the best premise for hk3 where you play as the hollow knight himself
>>723888703>born in the Abyss so he's innocculated to it>lived for years with the god of light sealed inside himThe natural predator of the Void
>>723892763He was justifiably pissed at Hornet for fucking up the entire Pharloom
>>723893246>>723892102>>723888703>>723888916>HOLY>FUCKING >KINO i really want to play this version of the game
>>723893246>Steel City fags get all uppity about Pharloom's void outbreak and come over to seal it>They fail and the void manages to break containment within their own city>Only one bug can put a stop to it>Opposed by both the void and by the Steelfags who want a monopoly on the void
>>723888703>>723889278>>723893246>everything was coldly calculated.
>>723893651All according to plan.
>>723893651It makes sense, he was once a wyrm, an ancient being that lived for centuries or millennia (in insect years) and has the ability to prevent the future, any plan he had surely encompassed at least a century of planning.
Big HK would need like a crouch button or something
>>723890473>She had no possible motive other than the sadistic joy of homicide when she invaded the mind palace of the Green Prince and literally cut his heart outHe's gay>yet her "prey" are, for the most part, themselves victims of puppeteering by a god.They're zombies
>>723895267ZELDA 2 2 BABY
