Nioh thread. I'm getting my fucking asshole gaped by the Underworld edition. Why is my damage so shit when I have a 190+46 katana? I feel like I'm doing something fundamentally retarded because I'm getting two tapped by everything and having to do two full combos just to kill skeletal spearmen.
>>723929904you are under geared. You need to get a whole bunch of items that say %20 more damage when X or Y
Stupid fucking shit loot game. Amazing how much better Ninja gaiden 4 is.
sweet a nioh thread
>>723932651Best I can get is 4%, or 6% if it's a star roll. What's the secret?
>>723932996Isn't that comparing pears and apples? They're two different kinds of games.
>>723932651>>723933161Here's said star roll, by the by. I'm only in Underworld 8 so this is the best I can get.
>>723933161>What's the secret?nta but I always see those '20% dmg when x' on accessoriesalso just progress more since lower floors offer better stats as usual
>>723933161>>723933317nigga you need to read and read a lot. Get armour sets to get damage buffs. To be more clear you can get items usually charms that say +20% or more damage when enemy is affected by scorching or other element. You stack a whole bunch of shit like that and do loads of damage. Google a build it will make more sense
>>723929904>two full combos just to kill skeletal spearmen.That seems normal. Shouldn't it have been this way for you since dream of the demon? I assume by 'full combo' you mean doing an attack string, then finishing with one of the active skill enders, not some combo MAD shit weaving in confusion and feather cancels.
>>723929904Most of your damage boosts are conditional in this game unless you specifically build for general damage using graces. It's probably not so much that you take too much damage and it's probably that you spend too much time standing in front of enemies which lets the AI challenge any attacks that have a gap.
>minding my own business trying to rescue kodama in the underworld>find one being guarded by an itsumade>it's purple
What yokai do you anons hate the most. I fucking despise these faggots. Obnoxious as hell to fight.Onyuda also gets a mention for being easy as hell right up till they two shot you with a shitty slap.
nioh 3 has fish women
>>723934452I'd rather have 5 of these bothering me in the middle of fighting something else than 1 umbrella fag paralyze me from offscreen
>>723934217>mfw using Itsumade's soul core against it
>>723934586I haven't had any issues with the umbrellas. Granted I am just in NG right now, but they die in like 2 hits. I always rush the ranged fucks first.
>>723934452fuck this dude
>>723933732I mean, I'm doing my best. I did my reading, I managed to get 6-piece Susano (and am proccing Versatility with at least 6 stacks at all times), I'd like to get Izanagi next but it just ain't dropping, and even if it was I didn't find a single imbued Purity katana through all of DotW and the Underworld up to this point. Aside from that all my gear has either +active skill% or melee%, and my katana has attack bonus Heart (I have 150). Maybe I should just sit and grind floor 10 until I have the full Izanagi set bonus and a Purity katana.>>723934452I always found rokurokubi to be really easy, you just don't commit to anything and watch out for the grab, all their stuff is easily telegraphed. The fuckers that have been giving me conniptions are the ones with unreactable massive AoE attacks that rape Ki like Fuki or Yasha. I also hate gank squads in general, so Aberrant Soldiers and handcannon gunners are very high on my punch-the-wall list.
>>723934736Fighting them head on is no problem. The issue comes when you're fighting something else and umbrella aggros from offscreen because you've walked into range while locked on to a different enemy. Eating a paralysis pin is basically guaranteed death while you're busy fighting something else.
Any tips for Odachi? The stance switch stuff is neat, but most of the time I find myself just high stance spamming with Twin Moons. Seems the stance switching takes too long for the tougher enemies.
>>723934913>I didn't find a single imbued Purity katana through all of DotWForge one and then fuse into higher rarity. That or just use talisman and grab the mystic art for buff duration.
>>723935286You can think of stance switching as a way to access the combo enders in other stances. Main significance is that while high stance light/strong attacks don't get deflected in general, odachi mid stance light/strong attacks also have the same benefit.
>nioh thread with actual gameplay discussionWhat the fug?
>>723935646I assume sunset breeze is the better of the two? I also don't really use low stance. It didn't seem very useful compared to just swapping to a faster weapon.
>>723935286I really really like the shoulder tackle and the hilt stab. Oh and that one aoe attack where you smash the ground.
>>723934452For me it's the mini Umibozu enemies, they pop up every single time when I don't happen to have any fire items
gaaaaaaaaah someone stream
>Paralyzes you>Oneshots you
>>723935746You can honestly use whatever you want since the main downside is that doing long normal attack strings like this drains ki. It's recoverable ki drain too so you'd have to wait longer for a perfect ki pulse instead of getting chunks back from something like flux. Don't remember if these odachi stance swaps chunk your recoverable ki on use like normal combo enders either.
>>723935978I would but I'm stuck in the wage cage
>>723935738I mean, we can discuss the plot if that's what you want.>DLC 3>Suzuka sacrifices herself (except not really) to give you the Basedahamaru which you already have>It turns out (You) were the legendary warrior that sealed Otakemaru away in the past all along>Except when you fight him in the year 753 you fucking kill him once and for all and he passes on into the afterlife happily (yeah he made a cameo in his Kashin Koji form turning Ashiya Douman evil in DLC 2 a few hundred years later, don't think about it please)What's up with that?>>723935978OP here, I'm playing right now, I can probably figure out how to stream through Steam if you don't mind someone playing like abysmal dogshit and dying all the time
>>723936267Okay, I admit, the filter caught me completely by surprise, I completely forgot. Basedahamaru, indeed.
>>723936073I read that as "Onee-shots">>723936267>if you don't mind someone playing like abysmal dogshit and dying all the timebut that's part of the charm anon don't worry
>>723936564Hopefully I don't get banned for this link.https://steamcommunity.com/broadcast/watch/76561197975338118/
i heard about Nioh 2 postgame and when i got there myself after finishing the game i looked over the edge of the endless pit and said "im good". It sounds really cool but i think i was pretty much done with the game and saw no allure to grinding increasingly more difficult nonsense while turning my character into a highly advanced Onmyo Mech with automatic auxillary matrix defence systems and 4 stage javelin missiles for every enemy attack accurate to 3ms
>>723936765>tfw shit internethave fun without me, bros
>>723936765Finally someone streams! The best part of Nioh threads
>>723936073Big, wet, floppy, veiny snake tits.
stream anon is quite good at video gamesa very rare specimen on /v/
>>723937454i hope stream anon will install some big titty mods
>Iai draw spamWhat is this, 2017?
Tonfas or Odachi and Axes? Idk what to pair Tonfas with if I go with that.
>>723934913just use talisman for weapon buffs
>>723933161Increased damage on zero ki is good value. That regularly shows up with 20% and its easy to trigger.
>stream anon casually calling the whole cavalry after running away from itsumade
>>723929904You can rush the bosses easily with just the ally blessing to get better gear faster>>723937848TONFA AXE
>>723938902>TONFA AXE
>>723938641Look, it's Itsumade. Wouldn't you run?
>>723939185
>>723933301Yeah, one is financially successful and one isn't lmao
>>723939185Fuck no
>>723939475Yeah
>>723934452That lamp yokai with ridiculous health.
Why doesn't stream anon use yokai shift at all?
>yokai shifts>get grabbed immediately>whole gang of yokai buttfucks himkino
you can do it stream anon
>>723940248Authentic Nioh experience
streamer anon, i hope you know you have to break lil dwarf nigga's armor to do real damage
>>723940248You asked for it. I gave it.>>723940351I do not.
Hit the yellow horns and you'll win instantly streamanon
>>723940390
Bro is struggling with grandpa lol.
>>723940390stream anon have you tried swapping to a non brute burst counter for these shorter counter windows?
Boss time lets goooooo
I think you are supposed to attack the enemy to deal damage to it, streamanon.
you can do it streamanon, i believei do not remember ever struggling this much when I played it
>>723940701No, I've never used anything other than Brute. It just doesn't feel right. I don't even have the achievement for 5 phantom/feral counters yet.>>723940871I warned you in the OP and in the stream link that I suck colossal amounts of ass. You have only yourself to blame.
Brute looks like a pain in the ass for burst counter. Feral is easy as fuck .
>died to stone ojisan a million times>beat ryomen-sukuna first tryWhat the fuck?
>>723940871This stream gave me a flashback to that specific jiji encounter. I never died to it but it took me over 20 minutes.
>nioh thread with gameplay discussion>someone streaming and is playing decentlycomfy thread
>>723940945>yourself to blamekek, im just fucking with yahave you considered swapping weapons or is there a reason to stick with 1kat?
>>723940960The only time I ever finding myself wishing I brought a Brute counter is against those lamp fucks. Their special attacks take a million years to go off and I can never get the timing down for a Feral/Phantom counter.
>>723940960phantom is even easier, unless you're fighting the toad
>>723940960Brute is great for certain bursts and to cancel combos but otherwise I prefer Phantom or Feral in most cases. Brute is the easiest for new players but after a while you either have to become perfect with it or prepare to facetank damage.
>>723940960It's easier with some mobs and harder with others. I just prefer it because pimp slapping a mob that's glowing red is immensely satisfying.>>723940963NPCs drawing aggro is a big help.>>723941061I played it in Nioh 1 and, having tried all the weapons in Nioh 2 (for the mystic arts achievements) have found I prefer it in this game too. I just love Backwave>Tempest and Iai Quickdraw too much, man.
>>723936267IIRC Kashin Koji is all the evil of Otakemaru that refused to accept humans did nothing wrong and he just had an extremely autistic fit, so he separates from Otakemaru and goes on to fuck up Japan for a few hundred years. You defeat first (historically later) Kashin Koji at the end of the base game, then later (historically earlier) Otakemaru at the end of DLC3 - during which Kashin Koji separates to be defeated earlier (historically later)Basically while you're going back in time with each DLC the actual story is still mostly linear save for the paradox of you being the legendary warrior
>>723936267You kill Otakemaru. Kashin Koji is part of him but seperate. He is his evil feelings come to life or some shit. Otakemaru going to afterlife happens in present or after you close the loop. He is at peace when you put those evil feelings to rest.
stream anon you are invincible to grabs when using yokai abilities that fully transform your body (with few exceptions)
Watching this is making me want to reinstall, but the last time I did that, I could not remember how to play at all.
>>723934452I really fucking hate the big crabs
>Simply run past the ItsumadeIt is just that easy, anons. You have now seen it for yourselves.
Man that Iai draw is satisfying as fuck when it actually hits
>>723941801OP/Streamanon here, if I can bumble my way through this with a sub-80 IQ then you definitely can.
>>723941801whenever I get the itch to play I start a new file then pick the weapons I get from here https://pickerwheel.com/?id=maiqBthen after I finish the campaign I go back to my main file and do some depths run and create new sets
>>723942145>rolled twice>got 2kat and splitstaff>the only weapons I haven't really playedGuess it's time for another playthrough
Shadow Sword into Light in Darkness is such a sexy attack.
>>723936267I remember when the game first came out, some anon perfectly predicted the plot of the DLCs based on the ending cinematic and some armor descriptions like a week after the game released.
Streamanon, you should go in after a burst counter instead of running away
Do we know what the third game's story is about?
nioh 2 is so cool bros
>>723942835All we know is that it's more time travel shenanigans
>>723942936Is it based on some historical event like the other two?
stream anon i hope you know that going in an out of underworld in between every floor means you're gonna miss out on lucky rooms
>>723943078It's still set in the Sengoku era. Takeda Shingen finally gets to make a proper appearance.
you can set what rarity of loot you can pickup in the settings stream anon
>>723943078The part that we saw in the demo was based on real events, yeah
I'm playing ng3 atm and it's good but it's just making me excited for nioh3 IM SO EXCITED
>>723942835Samurai and ninja
>>723942835OP here. I don't have a PS5 so haven't been able to play the beta, but I understand you play as Ieyasu's son (which places the game after Nioh 1 which ends in 1616, and shortly after Nioh 2's epilogue which ends in 1618), and you're poised to become Shogun. But your brother is jealous and posessed by yokai and overthrows you, so you need to travel through time like the Nioh 2 DLCs to power up and earn your right to become Shogun or something. Fuck's sake, it's Nioh. You kill shitloads of Yoki and improve your gear and shit.>>723943090Oh fuck, really? I've been dipping out every floor to soul match my katana upwards and spend my underworld upgrades into +levels. That sucks.
>>723943118I'm too American for all the Japanese names. I constantly forgot character's names in Nioh 2.
Man I should cheat in all those secret moves you need to grind for some day
>>723943118>It's still set in the Sengoku eraNot really, since the latest trailer lists Sengoku, Edo and Heian eras and talks about crossing through time and shit
P U S SUSS
>>723943258You don't really need to keep parity since the difference between one level is maybe 5 damage. Leaving also resets your current held health pills back down to the minimum so it's still worth it to push through with more heals on hand.
>>723943395plus we're getting a shaman waifu, those weren't there during the sengoku era
Someone made a 6 hr retrospective on nioh2 lol
>>723936267Final dlc basically stable time loop.>Get sent to past>Suzuka gives sohaya to stop your uncle>You kill his evil manifestation, completing the sohaya purpose>Sohaya disappear and you return to the presentI like it since that dlc is for player in meta sense, not just to explore new story and stuff.
>>723943558Nioh 2 buckbroke me... a careful analysis of feather ninjitsu
>>723943260Takeda Shingen was a minor NPC in Nioh 2 (you fight him as a revenant in one side mission) but he was very significant to the era, so you should read his Wikipedia article or something.>>723943292They're not that hard to get. If you have DotN gear you can clear the bosses that drop them within 15 seconds, and if that's the case you only need to find the mission that spawns that particular boss the soonest and burn it down. Should only take five or six tries, I've done it for a few myself>>723943520I have max kodama buffs on health pills for the underworld, so that's not a problem fortunately.>>723943406Scambussy...
The nigga we see in the trailer who wants to be the shogun seems to be Toyotomi Kunimatsu
ITSUMADEMO
>>723933161Seems like you know what you're doing. Susano is a good set. I would slap -damage taken on whatever I can and breeze through the Underworld with your odachi.
I finished 2 but never did the DLC or any repeat playthrough shit, I know there's some extra content you unlock right? Worth a replay, or could I just pick it back up and go again
>>723943891
>>723943941DLCs practically increase level to max, 750, add fist and conclude the entire storyline.
>>723943941First NG+ is pretty easy, should be fine to pick up where you left off
>>723943941You can easily pick it up and go again if you don't toggle a higher difficulty. I don't know if I would call it extra content though. It's more like the rpg mechanics open up and you get to refine a playstyle.
>>723943941DLC has a total of 9 new levels (of equivalent length to main campaign missions) along with a bunch of side missions. It also adds new difficulties, which (imo) truly reveal the depth of the game. You won't understand until you play them. Trust me, it's worth buying them and playing right through to the end.
>>723943941Just continue your same play because you can just restart from ng+ since i ng+ is as insignificant as ng from the perspective of gearing. Everything happens in the underworld which is when you reach ng++++.
>>723943941Don't start from the beginning since ng and ng+ just prepare you for the real nioh.Complete those dlc first since they reward you with really cool moves like izuna dropAlso learn stance switching and fluxing asap
>>723944103>I don't know if I would call it extra content though>underworld
I'm going to dip. Thanks for the stream, OP.
>>723944448You're welcome, it was fun to share my pain. It's late here too so I'm dipping myself after this boss, thanks for joining.
>>723944425Underworld exists yes but would you call it content or would you consider it revisiting things you already cleared, just with some tweaks? The only meat on the bone here is the gear that comes with underworld and even that is optional in practice.
Just booted up the game for the first time in months, seems I still have to play
good stream op
great run stream anon
>>723945106>>723945142Thanks. It's nearly 6:30am here so I'm going to bed, but if I see another Nioh thread up tomorrow I'll stream again. I had a lot of fun tonight.
>>723942835>TAKECHIYO, I'M GOING TO BECOME THE SHOGUN AND FUCK THE FISH WOMAN, TAKECHIYO
>>723934542Kind of an uninspired choice when they had way more iconic or interesting female yokai to bring.
>>723945845Name 5
>>723945845>>723945874Let me rephrase: name 5 more iconic female yokai than ningyo that aren't already in Nioh
>>723929904Oh good a Nioh thread, I wanted to ask about weapons in Nioh 2.Is Odachi broken as shit? Against bosses with any other weapon, I'll have a proper back and forths and they can get super challenging. But with Odachi I just stun lock them with high stance quick attack x2 + twin moons over and over again and they basically do nothing. Do the other weapons get this OP later or does this just stop working in the late game with Odachi?
>>723945874>>723945930Fuck man, i have notepad file somewhere with my old "cool yokai to choose if nioh3 happens" somewhere, but to name one i recall is the futakuchi onna, with the mouth behind their heads, the one that inspire Mawile from pokemon.
>>723945983A lot of weapons can break human bosses
>>723945983Just wait until you unlock moonlit snow
>>723945983all weapons can do it but fists/odachi/tonfa have the easiest time locking down humans
>>723946108Which ones?>>723946132I'm not sure I really like Odachi. I'm using it cause it trivialises a lot of shit that I struggle with on other weapons as a new player. Reach and damage I like, slowness and ki usage don't like. Anything that's closer to what I want? Spear? Switchglaive?>>723946141Interesting ok.
>>723946217>Reach and damage I like, slowness and ki usage don't likeSpear sounds like something you'd like
>>723946289I'll give that a whirl, looks like a very odd weapon with the whole repositioning shtick.
Can I basically have 4 weapons in Nioh 3? 2 for samurai and 2 for ninja?
Damn that sake really trivialize elemental bosses
Nioh 3 is the Elden Ring of Dark Souls
>>723946816
>>723939475>>723939797But Ninja Gaiden is the better game though
>>723948786Which one? Pic related if you're talking about 4
>>723948884All of them even though 4 is the least good one, the Nioh games are the best soulslikes though
>>723946816>>723947803I don't know
Is Nioh 2 kb+m viable ?
man the Dream of the Demon damage scaling is nuts from the third region
>>723952152I can't think of a game that's not
>>723952152I play Nioh 2 exclusively with kb&m, it's pretty good even though I have to rebind some inputs.
PC demo for Nioh 3 when?
>>723933732>You need to read more about ARPG loot statsthe ABSOLUTE state of Nioh playersStandback, superior game coming through
Please tell me how to be actually good and not gorilla spamming titanic strength with axe
>>723940006Not OP, but I usually forget I even can use yokai shift, it really doesn't feel good and it's often less effective than just fighting normally
>>723935978I just got home, want a stream from a different anon?
>>723940960I exclusively play brute unless it's the depths and the boss is literally too fast to use it against.
>>723954092can't say no to more comfy streamsheck I even wanna play with some of you but I'm sure it's gonna be laggy as fuck
>>723954679Nyotengu grab, the bane of brutes
>>723956779She's asking for it...
I like spear
>>723956779>tidal waves you
>>723957010I don't believe you, show me your spear collection
Tried hatchets a few months ago and they were surprisingly _fun
>playing with UI numbersI shiggy diggy doo
>>723934452Rokurobi are just walking turrets. You beat them just like you beat any From Soft dragon boss. You bait them to try and shoot you, then you rush their face diagonally and get free hits in. Then you back away because they always launch their close range 360 stomp/grab attacks next. So Rokurobi is just an endless bait fireball-bait stomp in a cycle.
>>723957748you keep wailing on them and turn into a crab when they try anything (this also works on every other enemy)
>>7239397972nd Nioh 2 DLC is just huge Ninja Gaiden reference. Not just Muramasa looking the same or fighting Ryu's ancestor, but they also took a mid-tier enemy from Ninja Gaiden 2, changed its appearance, gave it a couple of new moves and called it Tsuchigumo. Even gave the boss his own ninjas in the level so both Dragon Clan and Spider Clan exists in Nioh 2.>inb4 its not the same.Look at the enemy pose in pic related. Its the same model and lot of the attack animations are also the same. They're obviously repurposing Ninja Gaiden 2 monsters to Nioh games.
>"Bring me Yakumo" in mute
Nioh 3 will be the new Elden Ring
Team Ninja is a second rate developer and their game should be priced as suchat around $50 Nioh 3 could have been successful
>>723958148Yeah I hope alot of ninja stuff in 3 is Ryo moveset.
Hmm…
>>723955040Alright chat we are livehttps://www.twitch.tv/ilikethesongtwoprinces
>>723960887eeeey you're that one stream anon that got Fuki'd right
>>723961298I am indeedThis is my /v/ streaming accountUsually drunk
>got bodied by Fuki last time>now getting raped by Suiki nonconsensually this timeabsolute kino I can't wait for your showdown with the 3rd yokai general
>>723961442>>723960887OP here, I just woke up with a gruesome hangover myself so I'll enjoy watching someone else getting their ass beat instead for a change.
i actually hated how much of an established character your avatar is in 2 with everyone and their mother going hide, hide every conversation. i hope 3's MC is more of a blank slate
grats that was the second enemy in the level, only a few more to go
grace of susano usually is the recommended starting point if you don't know what to equip
>>723960615UOOOOOOOOOOOOOHHHHHH
you could also shoot the rokurobi's head to instantly knock them down
big sudamas reroll divines but divines are worthless now and for ethereals they just drop random shit
Am i too late for a friendly sparring match?
You can tell if they're rokurokubi from their stamina bar when you lock on. Purple means yokai.
>>723962165Considering he’s likely Hidetada’s son I think you’re going to be disappointed
>>723962425KORE WA KANERI *mashes X*
>>723962880I did Against All Comers on DotD for the achievement. This dude still killed me three times even with DotN gear. What were they thinking?
>>723929904Game is so fucking boring, it outstays its welcome so much
If you press strong attack right after you empty their ki you do an ebin yokai grapple instead of the normal one
>>723963412after a burst counter that is
>>723963412I think that's only if you break their ki with a burst counter, since you're still in yokai form for a moment you get the yokai grab animation. You can also pop yokai shift next to an out of ki enemy to instantly yokai grapple without a startup animation, which is nice because it starts your yokai shift off with a bunch of free anima from the grapple to start spamming abilities right away.
>>723963412>>723963456it even heals you if you unlocked the skill
>>723962165The 3 MC is literally less of a blank slate, they inverted the roles so that you're the historical figure while your "rival" is fictional and he's voiced now. While also writing his own journal notes in the first person that you can see in the menu
>>723962880That guy made me so fucking mad the first time I fought him.Sure he's a joke like every other human when you have your full skillset unlocked, but that fucking first time man..
>>723958148Also, there's a cheevo for killing Tsuchigumo while wearing the Dragon Clan set
>>723952152My last controller died before Nioh was released and I had no issue going all the way to the end of the depths.>>723952619I remember nba 2k being a massive pain in the ass with kbm
blud kills the first out of 4 bosses and thinks the mission is ending
>>723963516>You can also pop yokai shift next to an out of ki enemy to instantly yokai grapple without a startup animationWait is it really a guaranteed grapple if you just transform next to them?
>Excitement and relief after beating White Tiger>Mood suddenly drops like a stone when he realises it was just the midboss
>>723929904Nioh 2 is just pure video game and felt same while playing ninja gaiden 4, its a shame it didn't did well sale wise
>>723963646Out of all bosses in the game, he's on top of the "don't want to see you in the Depths" list, above Nyotengu, Minamoto no Vergil, Kashin Koji and boar guy
Kashin Koji must've gotten a huge buff post launch. I remember steamrolling him on my first playthrough but he kicked my ass for 30 minutes on this replay
>>723958148I would be cool if both nioh3 and ninja gaiden 4 do some sort of mission Collab in their upcoming dlc
>>723964043I actually quit beating the depths years ago when Nyotengu became the boss
>>723964043I guess it depends on playstyle, because out of all the ones you've mentioned the only one I don't like to fight in the depths is fucking Kashin KojiOther ones I hate are Yomi, Tokichiro (demon edition) and Tate Eboshi.In the end Saito is a human enemy and every enemy can be easily stunlocked to death. They're just conceptually flawed enemies.
>>723964007NG4 would've done better if they put in character creation instead of those anime rejects.
Will nioh 3 flop as hard as ninja gaiden 4?
>>723964539I'm pretty sure ninja gaiden was always much more niche than nioh, in spite of being a much older franchise with more entries, so I doubt that the worst case scenarios for both games are comparable.
>>723964539Stick to your dead shitpost thread, faggot
>>723964725It has similar follower and wishlist stat to NG4 on Steam.
>>723964843Wo Long and RotR must have harmed TN's reputation more than I thought.Well to be fair in spite of being a massive fan of Nioh 2 I don't have 3 in my wishlist either.After all even Nioh 2's pc release needed some polish, nevermind the shitshow that was Wo Long's and to a much lesser degree RotR's.I'm going to pick it up when it's playable, and it better not mean "when all dlcs are out" like it was for Wo Long.
>>723963953Yeah, the game explains absolutely nothing about yokai shift. Other tidbits off the top of my head;>All soul cores have a colour, if its colour matches your guardian spirit's colour (brute/phantom/feral) you get an anima refund when using it, you can change your soul core's colour by fusing it with a mortal soul core. You can increase the refund by picking the related skill in the yokai tree>Doing damage and using yokai abilities in yokai shift spreads amrita around on the field, you can either absorb this by pressing R1+R2 to extend your yokai shift or do a charged triangle attack which will absorb it into your weapon and make it bigger, and also makes future charged triangle attacks charge instantly>Popping yokai shift with critical health makes it last longer and also makes the startup animation stagger everything around you>Burst counters are completely free in yokai shift so can be spammed to animation cancel everything (you can even animation cancel the grapple, just in case you wanted to yokai shift near a no-ki enemy and DIDN'T want to grapple them, for example if you want to shift andd light attack a human enemy to knock them down before doing the downed yokai grapple specifically)>Pretty much everything you do in yokai shift counts as active abilities for the purpose of gear bonuses/Versatility stacks, this includes both standing and downed yokai grapples (which stack with standing and downed grapples in human form)>You can still use onmyo and ninjutsu while transformed>Transformation won't end while you're animation locked in a grapple or yokai ability, you can use these when your shift is just about to run out to generate more amrita and make your yokai shift last a little longerAbsolutely none of this is explained in game which is why most people don't even bother using shift at all.
>>723964539Nah china will carry it since they still like nioh
>>723962880Why was this dude so hard? I just beat this guy after a bunch of tries, he's the one from the blue mission right?
Stream anon, the best kept secret in the game is Uesugi clan + purification talisman, it gives you a shield equal to 30-50% of your hp every time you walk into a yokai poolAside from that, it's time to farm some grace set like Susano (drops in UW floors divisible by 3)
>>723965139I think without any hyperbole that Wo Long has pretty much killed all of Team Ninja's chances of every getting big.Look at how huge its concurrent players number is considering it was also day 1 on Gaypass just like NG4 and every game since then has struggled reaching 10k CCU.I think every game TN makes now is doomed into obscurity, including Nioh 3.
>>723965348>Why was this dude so hard?Because he does exactly what the game expects you to do to him (which is to say constant pressure), but his moves are massively better when you first fight him.
>This is taking forever, not happening this streamBro... this is the warmup boss, there's another afterwards
>>723965656FUCKIN WHAT
>>723965531This is just the chinese audience who always make up the majority of koei pc sales, Ronin bombed because half the cast were nationalists who wanted to genocide other asians, and NG was never popular over there
>>723965709Bring lightningstop talismans. Trust me.
>>723965531>I think without any hyperbole that Wo Long has pretty much killed all of Team Ninja's chances of every getting big.I can't really blame people for this. I was more hyped for that game than any other since I was a schoolboy, and what I got on release was endless ctdsAnd even when it was playable, it's not like it was a Nioh 2 tier experience, not even close.
>>723965734Nioh 2s reviews show this well
What weight should I be at? Should I always be at blueIs green badWhat's the most fun weapon
Turns out Nioh 2 have Ebin Online Services. Can I launch without it somehow? Get rid of it? I don't want Timmy to spy on me.
>>723965889>What weight should I be at? Should I always be at blueIf I remember rightblue = good ki regen, shit blockgreen = balancedorange = good block, shit ki regen>What's the most fun weaponThe one that clicked with you the most
>>723965889Best ratio is <70% weight and 200 toughness, try to get to this as quick as you can. The toughness is important because it improves block efficiency and 200 toughness is the threshold for the highest amount of poise, anything over that gives little benefit but never go over 70% weight ever because it cripples you. Later (in the highest difficulty) you'll have high enough stats that you can get A agility (<30% weight) while still keeping 200 toughness, which will speed you up and give more iframes and ki regen. And even later on, you can unlock a skill that allows AA agility (<20% weight) and AA toughness (>350 toughness) but getting both of those on the same character is extremely difficult. You'll have to pick just one.
>>723966002I'm sure you can play it completely offline
>>723965889>What weight should I be atPersonal choice of AA, A, BI'm usually B (green) early game and A (blue) late game.I personally find AA not worth the stamina investment and damage reduction loss, but some people swear by it.Going C and beyond is basically challenge mode, you aren't getting anywhere near enough defense to warrant the extra ki costs.>>723966130IIRC block depends exclusively on your weapon type and armor affixes.
>>723966002Nioh has online services in the same sense as From gamesYou can play offline or pirate the game with no problems, you just won't have online interactions with other people.
>>723963646Join the club.
>>723966216>AA toughnesstrap option in my experience, especially if you use weapons with baked in hyper-armor since the skill hyper-armor will overwrite your toughness hyper-armor
>>723965889I always go lightweight since i combo lock most endgame enemies but medium is also good but i don't like heavyweight because it restrict my movement and combos
>>723966260Toughness affects block bigly
>>723966436>>723966229How do I launch game offline without physically disconnecting internet cable?
I know many people don't like nioh2 level design but i love how they keeps on expanding as you go deeper
>>723966782But toughness doesn't depend on weight, it's an attribute of specific armor piecesThat's why people can minmax it to have it at 200+/350+ while staying at A agility.
>>723966936There's an option in the settings to launch offline IIRCOn pc anyway
>>723966936I'm assuming you have it on Steam, just turn off crossplay (it means crossplay with EGS)
>>723965531I'd be surprised if Nioh 3 flops. Wouldn't be surprised if its shit though.
all these stream anons made me wanna play on a new save>2 weapons>brute, feral, phantom>main soul coresyou guys choose
>>723967801>kusarigama>switchglaive>phantom>bakegani
Should I block or do I dodge everything
>>723965326I have 200hours in this game and even I learned something from this
>>723967912up to your play style but the block in this game is very reliableyou can also dodge while holding block
>>723967912there is no downside to holding block while dodging and it will often save your ass
What soul cores are actually good, things to be used in the heat of battle and are effectiveThe one I've used the most is Kasha cause it does a fuckton of damage to anything and heals me to full every use
>>723968485>kasha>that ape guy that leaps up>scampuss :^)
>>723968485ippon datara is busted
>>723965326>Transformation won't end while you're animation locked in a grapple or yokai abilityor while using jutsuin fact, since yokai shift has armor you can facetank small attacks forever as long as you're spamming
>>723932996Ninja Gaiden is not even made by Team Ninja filthy tourist
Nioh 3's gonna do well just off the Nioh name, normies don't know Wo Long and Ronin have anything to do with Nioh
>>723934452Gun to his face
>>723967912If you can dodge, dodge, but your emergency button is block.You don't panic dodge in this game, you panic block.>>72396848580% playstyle dependent.I would suggest carrying a gap closer and a large aoe skill, preferably ones that also double as anti-grab/ki regen (anything that physically changes you into a yokai) and high ki damage. Third slot is usually buff or anti-specific enemiesEarly game I like using gozuki, mitsume yazura, nurikabe, yamanba and mezuki.
>>723934452The carriage is the worst easily
>>723934452>spins really fast
>>723968485Dweller can extend your combos on 0 ki enemies while you reposition or have a breatherNamahage shreds max ki quite well
>nioh 3ead>post time i flux neo'd two bulletsname 5 games where you can legitimately dodge bullets
>>723967832>bakeganiBut I won't be able to get that until the dlcAny other soul cores to fill up my guardian spirit?
>>723969403karasu tengu
>>723934452hand canon yoki and sickle one. They both do bullshit damage
>>723967780I think it's bound to happen at this point. Code Vein 2 comes out a week before it and I unironically think most people will choose that over Nioh 3 nowadays.
>>723970146Don't be ridiculous. Code Vein was mid as fuck and the sequel does not look much better.
Yata Mirror better be a base game accessory in Nioh 3Batting projectiles back at enemies shouldn't be something you unlock in ng++
>>723965139When's SoP2?
>>723969091Normies don't know Nioh either. Nioh is a game for autists and autists only.
>>723970390Please understand, the devs don't know how to add difficulty to an encounter without adding two ranged mobs that aggro from the other side of the map and fire every two seconds.
>>723970289You underestimate how many will choose it for the gooning factor alone and since hardcore soulsloppers will eat any dogshit as long as it lets them press le ebin iframe button and avoid zanzibart's 10 hit combo, they will flock to code vein and will get their fix and won't be as interested in Nioh 3.
>>723967780If you make a fun game people will be interested in a sequelIf your sequel is barely even a reskin of the original game then people will be less interested in another sequel
>>723969276Time Crisis, Police 911, Dynasty Warriors, Samurai Warriors, The Matrix, Max Payne, Strangleholdbasically any game with an i-frame dodge
>>723970667I ate more shit from trying to counter ranged attacks than I ever did blocking/dodging them tb hI love doing it but honestly it's just a distraction
New player, I literally can't decide on what weapon to stick to. I really should though, I can tell it'll take a fuck ton of time to get good at one.
Already beat the game once with tonfas, second time with switch glaive. Any other weapon that's more fun?
>>723965734>This is just the chinese audience who always make up the majority of koei pc salesSo after all this they'll need a Wo Long 2 to stay afloat?
>Only Splitstaff + Switchglaive + Magic build is viable for Underworld Depths 15+It's all so tiring. I don't want to use these dogshit looking weapons. Why is every other build so unbearably slow to deal damage.
>>723971579>Why is every other build so unbearably slow to deal damage.The fact that your idea of build is naming weapons and attribute shows how shit at the game you are anon.Every weapon is perfectly viable and my own depths clear was done with odachi+fistsMost of your damage comes from situational buffs/debuffs coming from your gear, onmyo and ninjutsu, not the weapon and definitely not the attributes
>>723972219>Every weapon is perfectly viable and my own depths clear was done with odachi+fistsExcept they objectively aren't you secondary nigger. If you've actually played UWD 15+ with triple bosses you'd know what I'm talking about. Which you don't. NO other build has the damage output of Splitstaff Dragon Dance. Never talk to me again you subhuman.
>>723965531I'm really starting to hate you Steam chart fags. If you want to pretend to be a data analyst then you need to look at the full picture and not just CCU on one platforms as if that indicates the total sales of a game. Like Nioh 1, 2, and RotR all released on consoles first and only had PC ports later. The Nioh games only got their PC ports after all their dlc expansions came out and I was there for all the initial releases and I'm fairly sure they sold well on consoles. TN is not the biggest dev but they're not ultra niche either. The Nioh series reached like 3 or 4 million or something which is fairly good. Selling like 10 million+ is not the normal, even From wasn't putting up sales like that until ER. Wo Long likely had a higher CCU count on Steam simply due to the Chinese setting and Steam being the main platform of China.
>>723973232>not even just maining a weapon, straight up just spamming a single moveI'm amazed you actually got all the way to the depths playing like that.But it's irrelevant, there are plenty of attack buffs that match dragon dance like versatility, death dancer, rock solid, hell even berserk if you don't mind the drawback.A 50% bonus that stacks with anything is nowhere near irreplaceable, and the fact that you're genuinely convinced every weapon other than the ones you main are shit is genuinely hilarious when they're not even the most beloved ones nor the most noob friendly.Ultimately you're just a shitter who got too comfortable abusing a single move. Usually you see it with moonlit snow fags though.
>>723942835Grandson of Ieyasu dealt with the devil to become Shogun or some shit, then (You), the actual grandson goes on a time-travelling adventure to stop the retard.
cant believe this thread is still alive
>>723974932Everyone is fighting to become the shogun in a Fate Stay Night kind of setup and there's a waifu mainly concerned with stopping your brother who is one of the other contestants
>>723974063>not even just maining a weapon, straight up just spamming a single moveActually that's perfectly viable as an odachi player.>haha moonlit snow redux goes brr brr brr
>>723975310>all the temper passives are for regular moonlit snow I sleep
What's the fastest way to start doing real damage on Dream of the Demon?
>>723975310Viable for sure, but also boring and definitely not optimal.Versatility is there to tell you you can learn to use the whole moveset anon. Don't cage yourself into a moonlit prison cell.Odachi has so many great moves that flow excellently into each other, learn to use them all and you'll have far more fun.
I play with the English dub
>>723975924Switch to the clan that gives 100% damage bonus after grapple for 3 sec
>>723975426The move-specific skills are generally not worth it on equipments, better to stack generic dmg, ki dmg, ki consumption, dmg reduction passives.
>>723975924>fasteststart abusing confusion>most reliablefarm benzaiten
>>723967801>2 weaponsany two weapons you haven't used before, or havent used much>brute, feral, phantomtry incorporating brute counter into your combos; it's really strong >main soul coresdweller is really nice for keeping enemies stunned and cancelling for your combo mads. otherwise i usally run magatsu warriror and fire hammer thing/yasha/lightning gods of yomi
>>723970390there should be a skill the reflects projectiles when you perfect guard on samurai
How often do you guys actually switch weapon types? The way to switch weapons is a bit clunky and you can get stronger fully leveling one weapon type before another, so I'm not sure how well weapon swapping works for combo or strategies
>>723975989Oh I don't disagree, just pointing out it's perfectly possible to beat even the hardest content with it. Besides I don't really play odachi much so when I do have to use it I just naturally gravitate towards the easiet option.Versatility isn't all that necessary at all. If you want to all-in offensive 7pc Izanagi is argubly better, or the trusty 6pc oyamatsumi/5 omnyo for balance between attack.survivability.
>>723976414There are plenty of different reasons to swap between weapons with or without using flash attack. Some weapons come with element, good for setting up/maintaining confusion. Some weapon have active skills that do lots of hits, good for applying element or maintaining pressure on low ki enemies. Some weapon have high break, good for enemies that block. Some weapons have excellent range. Some weapons have great ki management, etc
>>723975924>>723976147Don't farm anything until DotN.DotD should be quite easy with end game DotS gear (widely considered a victory lap). DotW gets a bit difficult but you can always summon for help if you really struggle. Just get to DotN and unlock Underworld ASAP.
>>723976419>Versatility isn't all that necessary at all.It's not, but a 60% attack buff will do wonders to your willingness to explore the whole moveset.I personally never liked cleansing prayer for various reason, but yeah it's good. I'll take austerity/susanoo over it thoughNever bothered to farm the depths only/sudama only sets tb h, too much effort.
>>723977005You're missing out, the depth blessings are all pretty cool. Susanoo is good but gets outclassed in the end game. Izanagi gets 30% flat dmg + 30% against purified enemies. But this stacks with other dmg buffs against purified enemies aloowing you absolutely delete ki bars like nothing. And easy as piss to set up just chuck out an owl yokai move and walk in it. Mahatsuhi is also fun as fuck. With scrolls you get +200 sentience charge and +100% anima gain. You can ippon hammer for days.
>>723929904Still waiting for something from KT that would further solidify Nioh being in the same timeline as Ninja Gaiden and DoA. Would be nice if they added default male Hiddy (as an old dude) as a playable character in Ninja Gaiden 5 (if it becomes a thing)/as a DLC character for 4 (justified due to him being half yokai and thus might have a much longer life-span) and DoA 8 as a playable character (bonus if he and Nyotengu get a special line where she recognizes him as her father...because let's face it, male Hide 100% knocked up Ancient Nyotengu in that DLC after her bossfight.>>723964193Really hoping for playable old man Hide with his own mini-campaign where he does cross paths with Ryu and Yakumo (and both get unique bonus weapons for use in the main campaign from him), and Nioh 3 DLCs where you fight the ancestors of the latter two along with beating up Black Spider Ninjas and Fiends.
>>723976414Never because the input for it is too hard for me to do in the middle of combat
>>723934452Their in game description is one of the only times I got genuinely creeped out. Its the fact that they really do think they are normal human beings. Imagine living your whole life completely normal, interacting with everyone else daily, but secretly unbeknownst to you, you are a disgusting demon.
>>723961934This guy is a fairly tough fight once you go way of the nioh and stuff. Especially with a slow axe build.
>ItsumadeThe one time the game isn't super duper chill. I like a decent challenge though theu can definitely put you in some unwinnable situations
>>723977935>And easy as piss to set up just chuck out an owl yokai move and walk in it.I used to do this on my previous setup, which was izanagi/tsukuyomi, but I dropped it because I wanted to try corruptionI didn't feel the need to switch back afterward tb h, for all that I'd still rate purification as the best status to inflict.
>>723953854is there any news of a potential SoP2? this game is so good, i played both niohs after this one and found their system unsatisfactory in comparison to SoP
>>723973232>he doesn't combo and just spam onmyo magic all day
>>723980006>is there any news of a potential SoP2?Around DLC3 Nomura told you to beat the DLC to show Square that while the game flopped the fanbase is dedicated enough to be really invested in the gameAsk yourself what are the chances a major AAA publisher that's fully committed to the cinematic movie experience route will greenlight a sequel to a niche game that wasn't a critical successTwo most likely scenarios, ignoring never ever, is either KT making a spiritual successor with the same mechanics but without Final Fantasy or the game being memed into relevance and getting a sequel a decade later like Dragon Dogma
>>723980006It's probably not happening but I really want it to happen. SoP was the most bizarre mashup of FF, Nomura, and TN. It's the kind of game that I didn't know I wanted until I was actually playing it. SE would need to commission a sequel from TN if they wanted it but lifetime sales of the game would need to be fairly good. It easily had the best build-making of any modern TN action RPG and it's really the FF job system that helped to allow that. The pure action was very good as well of course.
>>723965889After playing with blue weight, everything heavier just feels bad.
>>723934452oni kusarigama assholes and the tengu.
>>723971359Join the HatchetsCult.
>>723973232learn to time beyond infinity b4 u talk
>no achievements for the underworldWhy?
>>723982559only mentally ill subhumans play that
>>723978813>hyped up enemy turns out to be a pathetic jobberNo idea what people see in this punching bag
I fear that no Nioh 3 boss will be better than Shuten Doji.
>>723980006Not likely since the director quit TN and went indiehttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WzNJ1JreB3M
>>723982757>at least 290 encounters>enough damage received to die 1500 timesok anon we know you love quick change
>>723983950This looks like one of those fake games you see in a movie or a sitcom.
>>723933301https://www.youtube.com/shorts/4cDy0YsaYWU
>>723984164you die from 1000 damage?
Katana > Hatchets > Spear > Fists > Kusarigama > Splitstaff > Tonfa > Axe > Duel Katana > Switchglaive > Odachi
>>723981083The job system is gold and the individual combat mechanics are goldThey integrated the job build options into the core combat very well so you have interesting decisions which interact with everything else, like choosing a Job which gives you an animation speedup on the backstep attack of a particular weapon so you can assign one particular action to that link and build around it, everything connects to everything elseThe hold parry mechanic tied to a resource is so much better for the game than bullshit like Backwave which has too much of a reward and nowhere near enough restrictions or associated costs. Having an actual timed parry but putting very little reward on it by default and requiring you to build into it if you want it to achieve something is also perfect, they got so much right
>>723986253I love this game but you're just fucked if you don't have a proper build for the last DLC, I've been winging all this time and I guess I wasn't taking it serious enough. Still amazed I got up to where I was(probably thanks to the Axe).
>>723986778You need a 'proper build' if you want to RPG it, but you don't have to RPG it
>>723985542>Can't even do mathkwab
>>723983950I don't think that would be the reason for it not happening since they can just have someone else direct it.
>>723987079Bullshit
>>723987451RPG'ing it would be when you use charged axe skills with hyperarmour into the boss's face and win because the boss dies before you die due to numbersKilling things with finesse using an ordinary and non-abusive build isn't any harder than something like a Malenia fight
>>723985542oop my bad king, was mobile posting and it looked like 15m damage taken
>>723987451This is how I feel when devs put a "pet the hecking dog'' in a game.
>>723987834to be honest I'm extremely drunk, wasted all my money on camsluts, have work in 4 hours, I just saw an SoP post and needed to post "bullshit">for what is a man what has he got>if not himself then he has naught
>>723971365Pick a weapon, try it out, and see if it's fun for you.
>>723929904>playing Jack's game>beat it>good challenge>fistbump the screen>manly tears at *that* point>got all the classes to Lv30>ludokinoyet>time to DLC>cannot summon the will to run CHAOS or Bahamut difficulty, even though I could easily do WotSt + WotN for Nioh>max out Bahamut meter with Lv400 Earth Temple Trident hunt runs>get some usable gear>still nothing>play dressup with all the armor pieces I had gathered>still nothing>limit break and max out my favorite classes and try to make a loose build for them>still nothingUnlocked Bahamut's fight, and it's just been sat on my desktop unplayed for a month. I just don't get it. Is it just because the content is gated to having beaten the Bahamut reruns first, rather than there being an option for just basegame Hard difficulty DLC content?Are there at least new levels on the later DLC difficulties?
>>723990445There's a progression gap because the DLCs were supposed to be dripfed to people who had been grinding the previous 'end game' for some time and the PC release just gives you everything at once with no catchup mechanic
CHAOS thread?
>>723990445There's only one additional level, and it's in DLC3. You can really feel the budget issues they ran into with the DLCs with that, however gameplay-wise they made a little go a long way. There are some amazing new boss fights in there and the labyrinth is way more fun than Nioh's Underworld in my opinion.
>>723990848I don't have time for this bullshit
>>723991086I hope they take some stuff from SoP's labyrinth and incorporate it into Nioh 3's underworld.
>>723965139>>723965531Rise of the Ronin and NG 4 are great though >>723970801But Code Vein 2 has no coomkino
>>723990848If we are having a CHAOS derail, can someone tell me why Axes are sucked off as good, and how the fuck >>723986253 works with Daggers when they felt like unusable ticklestickst. basic Sword and Boarder Paladin who vaguely "gets" that the elemental class attacks are the bread and butter of endgame, but doesn't understand it, nor what is actually broken.Also Neon is a qt3.14
>>723993892Not the anon that made that webm but daggers are good. They're fast and very good with crits and status effects. I used them on my ninja build and they have combo abilities for both poison and paralysis, then there's the Shiva summon blessing that gave Slow on crits if I remember right. So basically when you take the poison/paralysis combo abilities, elemental ninpo status effects, and summon blessing, I was landing multiple ailments nonstop and quickly recovering ninja tools uses. Like the ninpo can crit so I'd apply both the elemental ailment along with slow all in one move. Same thing with combo abilities. Then I had void knight haste affinity, tyrant guaranteed crit while ailing affinity, and I also used this combo with a fist assassin + chain cancel assasinate. So essentially I just melt everything with nonstop crits, status, and break damage while always having the ninpo that lets you tank three hits up. Ninja/assassin was probably my favorite set overall though I also had other really good ones as well. Greased lightning and the water spin attack on daggers are both pretty good as well.
Any good Nioh mods?
>>723992245RotR is mid. The basic idea was nice, but it's pretty obvious they ran out of time and failed to implement a lot of depth.If they hadn't bothered with ubislop open world (multiple maps, even) we'd have had a much better game. The writing choices were retarded as well.Also although I lucked out in that regard, I remember a hell of a lot of people complaining about performance and stability with the pc release.
>>723997291There's a cheat engine table on nexus that lets you add extra keybind to have more active skills at your disposalAside from that it's all graphics and costumes shit,
>>723997291The Skills Expansion mod.
>>723993892>how the fuck >>723986253 (You) works with DaggersYou need to hit stuff in the back, or hit stuff while it's knocked downWhich is obvious when you read what Agility does but Daggers in particular have all the tools to make something like high AGL Assassin work. You have side dodge attacks with i-frames which rotate you around enemies and fast multi-hit attacks which stack Assassin quicklyYou are not dealing high damage numbers, but you are blowing up Break bars with enhanced crit break which still results in things dying
>>723982757He hits like a truck but the combos get very predictable. 90% of the time its punch, twirl punch, dash, ITSUMAAADEEE!
>>723934452I don't remember much of the game since it's been years, but I do remember this guy being a colossal faggot. The white birds, you fight like 3 of them in the entire game, they suck ass too. I think most enemies gave me a pain in the beginning like the Naga, but I was surprised at how intuitive the fight was and just made her my bitch every time I fought one.
>finished San Guo 2010, read up on classical chinese mythology, now Absolutely Ready™ to start chewing into 3kingdoms media>start off with Wo Long, got a positive mindset going in, hey, even if people ragged on it, it should still be a fun entry for the chinkino alone (don't know where he is, but I know in my heart of hearts that Lu Bu's gonna be a boss in it somewhere)>>all cutscenes are blank black screens because it's got some kind of AV1 extension issue because of Windows jeetcoding that made it dependent on the Microshart App Store (which I rightfully ripped the fuck out when debloating, and ain't reinstalling Windows from the ground up just to re-add)>no workaround (yes, I've probably tried ___ / whatever you were going to say)Disappointment was immeasurable, and my day was ruined. Might play later, and watch the cutscenes by AltTabbing out to YouTube, but it just ain't the same.I really hope Rise of the Ronin / Nioh 3 isn't the same.
>>723998624I don't remember this much cleavage.
>>723936073mfw my armor and regen is so high, by the time she bites my neck, I have already regenerated and my 80% damage reduction on full health has reapplied itself and I laugh
>>724002043CHADlliam CHADams
>>723997453But it's better than Ghost of Tsushima
>>724003220Not hard to do when GoT is just reddit Kurosawa "press triangle to awesome!''.
>>724003220Sure, ok. Not like it's a high bar to clear, the game plays like the first assassin's creed
>>724004684>first asscreedyou say that like its a bad thing, its that, except with more weapons
>>724004014How did he do it bros?
>>724005579his dick is the size of his guardian spirit
>>724004684No it doesn't, it plays far better than that. RotR is probably my least favorite modern TN action RPG but come on anon.
>>724002043Based Nioh connoisseur. Other faggots would be claiming muh one shots, muh sponge damage!
>>724001776My dick remembers.
>when the main theme plays during the boss
>>723990445Just for you, there's a way to cheese the game. Go to the main snow mission, the one that is based on FFX Mt. Gagazet. At one point you'll face a Griphon you need to kill before opening a door thingy. You can farm this enemy, kill, go to the cubes, repeat. Go to this mission at the highest level you can possible beat and repeat the mission once you're geared. This enemy will give you good loot, crystals, etc. After reaching Lufenia difficulty you unlock the ability to do missions at the equivalent of Rift floor 180 i believe. You can do this trick and basically skip Rift floor 30-180 difficulty as you can get high level gear by just killing that Griphon. Also after you unlock manikin material (right before the very last mission in DLC3), you can farm a shitton of manikin material + exp by killing cactuars https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F7x1l3FLes0
>>724005231>you say that like its a bad thingIt is. It was alright 20 years ago but it's unacceptable today.>>724006018>>724003220>But it's better than Ghost of TsushimaDid you think I was saying rotr is ac1 tier?
>>723929904Making a personal meme based off of those DBZ power level spiclists; generally based off of difficulty / memorability / lackthereof. I want to get through all the major slikes at some point desu, just to prove a point and put them all on one list against each other.Missing anything in particular from Nioh? Only the HARDEST, STRONGEST or MOST BITCHMADE need apply.
>>724009871Needs more spic flair with the naming, that's what makes it funny.
Haven't played in years, can you really still not forge quality unbracite?
>>723997291https://www.nexusmods.com/nioh2/mods/105
>>723929904I just finished Nioh 2 and its DLC a few days ago. Very good game
For me it's him Fucking amazing enemy, ultra-underused too.
>>723956779
>>724016785I used his soul core because I liked the sword wave attack.
>>723990445Wear 400% Knight affinity for invincible during Chaosbringer. Extra Mode your way thru all DLC. Farm Cactuars for manikin like >>724007097says. Use Blacksmith to fuse, dupe, enhance etc a build.
https://youtu.be/-MeHaP7pTtg?si=A9j_wZBZIooozzyukino.
>>724007097>>724017246Already have the Lv400 gear to beat Bahamut from that sidemission in the Lich level that doesn't require you to kill anything (I tried him once, could tell I had the output to kill, but didn't know his moveset enough and ran out of heals), I just didn't have the energy to do so. I'll keep it in mind for the other DLCs. Also figured that Knight Immortality set bonus / Extramode was busted, I specifically was avoiding it. As I partially mentioned, Main Paladin + Secondary Gambler with Sword&Board was my class setup since it felt like I was actually playing the game honestly and not going through the motions with a grind plus I'm a jokermode luckmaxxxer sicko fuck on the side hustle. I don't know, maybe I was just burnt out.
>>724017253What the fuck what'd you do to your Nioh
>>723929904I had this problem too when playing Ni-Oh 2 too. I had no issues with the first games but on Ni-Oh 2 I always felt so underpowered. Ni-Oh 2 is a legit hard game even compared to older games. Souls games are a walk in the park compared to Ni-Oh 2.
>>723929904My experience with Nioh 2 is getting ASSRAPED by Enenra or the first 3 bosses, after that the game becomes manageable and I even went through to the Final boss, but I stopped there and barely touched the DLCs
>DLC adds the good enemies>never get used unless given the annoying DotW / DotN buffs
Nioh 2 is a really funny game because technically there's four primary ways to approach the endgame but a shitload of build diversity in terms of getting there.>prevent OHKOs and cc the enemy>prevent OHKOs and do a lot of damage>maximize ccing the enemy>maximize damageThe problem is the RNG in this game is really something and you might go completely insane trying to perfect your builds. Really satisfying when you do though.
I can't deal with DotD, the gear returns cap out way too early in the run and killing things takes fucking forever
>>724024279Skill issue, and I mean it benevolently: by dotd you're expected to engage with most of the game's mechanics, many of which are very big damage multipliersAre you applying saturation and confusion? Are you buffing yourself? Are you giving priority to attacking enemies' backs? Are you breaking horns?This is (mostly) gear agnostic shit that triples your damage output as a matter of pure player skill.
>thread still alivevery nice>>723976156tried all of them but coincidentally >>723967832 's recommendation were the ones that really didn't click with me so I guess I'm gonna go with those>dweller is really nice for keeping enemies stunned and cancelling for your combo madsyeah I really like using dweller so I also recommended it >>723969271
>>724017253I wonder how did they come up with the bright idea of reducing the whole gameplay into a one button parry slop.
>>724027239press triangle to japanese
I no-lifed nioh 1 and 2 and think they are easy games
>>724027239It's a sideway evolution from Wo Long. That said, Ronin's gameplay is more about one button parry slop because the parry button is another attack button, so you can't spam it like in Sekiro have it be an easy and safe attack cancel like in Wo Long. There's also all the styles and weapon switching and different martial abilities to spice up your attack patterns. Ronin has quite a handful of problem, but combat isn't one of them once you get past its awkward control.
>>724017085used it point-blank and it hits with the swords + waves for mega damage
>>724027239Sekiro caused this.
>>724027741>so you can't spam it like in Sekiroit can get pretty spammy when using blade flash to animation cancel maybe not quite sekiro levels, but definitely spammable
>>724024019>you might go completely insane trying to perfect your builds. Really satisfying when you do though.just the nature of arpgs, it filters anyone that cares more about the destination than the journey.
I hate buildfags
>thread still alive2kat, SotC and GoW. Anything else matter?
I want a gun mix weapon in nioh3 Something like gunlance or gufist
>>723929904My reflexes are unironically too slow for this game. I'm almost 25 hours in to this game, and the furthest I've ever gotten was the Enenra fight. I beat him and then I just hit a massive wall, even the trash mobs can BTFO me because they all seem to have so much health and poise, on top of being aggressive as fuck
>>724029314Water Sword is good for stationary targets. The Shrike is a good parry for humans. If you're playing 2, Double Headed Slice is godly for status application but you have to farm for it which is extremely annoying. Both high stance heavy enders are pretty good, Cherry Blossom and whatever the other one was called. Try and always been in low stance and dodge guarding. You have that one passive that gives you more iframes during recovery and also an attack buff if you avoid an attack with it. Raijin isn't very good but it's still kind of fun occasionally. Hopefully it'll be better in 3 since it now has a lightning version. It should go without saying but make sure you're always timing the second part of GoW correctly. SotC also has a follow-up that's decent in 2 but you need to farm for it.
>>724030376There's already guntonfas
>>724030589did the snake lady boss filter you
>>724030589Game got a lot easier when I got Toughness to A, the amrita life steal clan and switched to high stance Odachi + twin moons spam. That's how I started learning and then eventually branched out
>>724005579>lowly merchant>somehow rises through the ranks of the Toki clan and overthrows them and takes their territory>bangs hot yokai lady and settles down with herreal rags to riches nigga
>>723934452ITSUMADE
>>724029314>he doesn't punch saito to death with his bare fistspathetic
>>723934452>lightly pokes you>90% health gone
>>723935286Spam Moonlit Snow ReduxOdachi is a very technical weapon which has a lot of tools for every situation. It also has Moonlit Snow Redux, which makes all those tools utterly irreverent.
>>724030589Use fist, its breaks ki very easily
>>723936267>Get stabbed by your uncle>Grow up and kill your uncle>Kill your uncle again as the final boss>Go back to the past and kill your uncle again>Then kill your uncle again in his doom fortressNioh 2 is a game about family dynamics
I wish we could have a game about the buildup to and the Genpei war, the Minamoto are such fucking snakes
What are the go to skills for spear?
Just how powerful can unarmed get? Seems like there's a bunch of skills, magic, and weapon skills that increase unarmed.
These threads make me want to play Nioh 2 again, but Nioh 3 is around the corner, fuuuuck
>>724033182Plenty of time to get a playthrough in, Nioh 3 is three months away
Haven't played this in a while, Is this game still bugged at 120 fps (on steam)? Some say it's fixed but others say there're still some issues
>>724033182If you don't think you'll get burned out you can do a quick runthrough. Besides, you need to wait to see if Nioh 3 is actually good anyway
>>724033182Honestly, it might be best to wait a couple years after Nioh 3's release to get it. You'll get a sale and all the dlc will be out for it.
>>724032560it hits decently hard but doesn't build much anima and can't block properly or Ki pulse at allits strongest attack is the straight punch emote
>>723990848Man SoP was fun as hell, but the DLC destroyed me.
>>724033434>Is this game still bugged at 120 fpsIt was? The only issues I've noticed are keyboard and mouse related but nothing that would impact normal gameplay.
>>724033936it can ki pulse in Nioh 2 with the grace set
>>724032484Piercing Rain
>>724030589That's why you play this game to train your reflex although in long term it become memorization though. I played RotR again after some time and after couple minutes remember the counterspark moment.>>723997453If i looked Nioh 2 and RotR, RotR suffers from bad light implementation compared to Nioh 2. SS from nioh 2 character creation had better lighting compared to ronin. and now people bitch because windows 11 fucks ronin
>>724033182I can understand the hype for a new release, but not the day one buying dementia. At release, most games now are unfinished, unoptimized, unpolished and need several patches to run like they should day one.Come home on Nioh 2 and be patient, it's not going anywhere.
>>724032484Resounding lunge is a "i win" button every 10 seconds from max range since human ai don't bother blocking at that range
>>724034156but its easy to make insane builds in that game
Nioh 2 and SoP might be the only primarily action-focused games that does the RPG systems well in that they actually make you think about how you build.My only issue with Nioh's RPG system is that character levels are too bloated, and it's pointless to make a build until you're at endgame.
>>724032484Twisting Spear, Triple Threat, Piercing Rain
>>724035941Unfortunately they never thought about how to introduce gearing to players who don't understand/care, especially with the lack of loot organization options
>>724035809Correction, I was thinking of twisting spear.
What do we think about nioh 3? i have 0 hope after Wo Long and Rise of the Ronin. It would also simultaneously release on PC so I'd have to buy the DLCs so the game price will go up from 50 euros to 70 euros + season pass. And it's supposed to be open world slop as well! fuck.
You guys ever start a fresh save file, pick a weapon and use just that weapon all the way to the underworld? I've done it three times, katana, hatchets and splitstaff.>ewwwww why don't you just have one single save filebecause I enjoy leveling asshole
>>724035680Not to mention it's most likely going to have a bunch of DLC as well, and historically the complete bundle is the best way to play TN games.
>>724036019IMO that's an issue with Action RPGs as a whole. Can't think of a single one that teaches you how to make a decent build, or give you tools to figure out where to find certain gear, even though it's really important. If there's one way the genre needs to evolve, it's definitely that.>>724036241Haven't seen much on it, gonna decide for myself if it runs decently on PC. Normally I hate open world games as it's almost always a detriment to a game, but I don't think Nioh ever had good enough level design for me to say I'd miss the linear mission-based aspect either way. We'll see how it turns out though. Also>slopI don't think I've ever been more burnt out on seeing a buzzword before, even if its use it applicable. I swear people will be speaking entire sentences in buzzwords in a few years.
>>724036241I played the alpha demo, thought it was pretty good. The open world was more interesting than Ronin's and was not as big as I thought it would be. The deflect also didn't seem overpowered, but I'm a scrub at parrying so idk
>>723929904This game sucks ass and you were conned by /v/ niggers into getting it
>>724036241I'm pretending it doesn't release until Complete Edition
>>724035809>>724036160Shit is OP yea
Katana + Spear is the most high IQ weapon combination.
>>723934452I remember some really big crow dudes in the underworld which brought unreadable attacks to a whole new level. All their attacks just made gigantic hitboxes everywhere and just drove home late game nioh 2 "nuke the enemy before they can do anything" gameplay.
>>724037889I prefer Katana+Fists so I can Izuna Drop with either of my weapons.
Ryu is an absolute nigger in this game and whoever designed him needs to be beheaded with a dull machete.
>>724038501Have you tried caltrops? Ninjers fear the caltrops
>>724038501Flux2 spam at him until you drain his ki.When he falls over hit him with something like flowing shadow (two quick hits) to wake him up with zero ki instead of doing an execute which will let him regain all his ki.He's difficult to play against on the defensive, but you can fold him like a deck chair very quickly due to his pitifully small ki bar.Be prepared to spam gap closing attacks, especially ones that have long active frames since you can nail him mid air when he tries to flying swallow, but generally you're just trying to chase him to continue pressure when he +backs to recover ki.In a similar vein, if you're not already, get comfortable with using cheap, very short yokai attacks to keep pressure up if you whiff a flux2 and need your ki back.
>>724037889this is like calling bread and butter high IQ food
>>723953854This looks boringly tedious for some reason. Boy am I glad I never stayed for that shitty grind content.
>>723963646>>723962880He's my favorite boss in the game. The only boss where I actually could, wanted to, and had to learn his full kit and what to do against it all.I'm a 1kat spammer though, I imagine slower weapons are agony against him.
>>724039113same, hit girugamesh mode or whatever the fuck they called the depths equivalent and peaced out.>Captcha agrees
>>724035941>My only issue with Nioh's RPG system is that character levels are too bloated, and it's pointless to make a build until you're at endgame.I mean its not much better at end game either. In the early game the bonuses are like 3% reduced ki usage on light attacks. And late game there's too much tax on MOAR DAMAEG passives that the interesting stuff like Ren's infinite shurikens get crowded out.I found it has the same problem as EVERY game with loot, too many stat modifiers that just let you pass a stat check with what you're already doing, and not enough stuff that actually has mechanics.
>>724039113the problem with Jack's Game is they give you too much build freedom expecting players to understand the nuances of each decision and find a balance they can work withinstead everyone makes a glass cannon munchkin that shits dps before anything can touch him. if you put points into defense the game stays fun all the way through.
>>724039113nah this is the payoff for tedious grinding
Forced Ninjaslop will be the death for Nioh 3
>>723936879Based sensible anon
>>724038501I hope nioh 3 gives human bosses hyper armor again
>>724040731They said this about Yokai shift in Nioh 2 as well and now it's beloved by the fans.
>>724039465That's what set bonuses are for. Outside of that I disagree, there's definitely room for unique stats, you just need to know when it's okay to lose out on a bit of damage.
I beat SoP and I still don't know what each of the main character stats do, aside from HP = HP, and STR = Weapon Damage and INT = Magic Damage.Mage builds feel like they can't work in NG+ just because you don't start each mission with enough juice in your MP bar until you soul block things to max capacity, so I never did the DLC because my build fell apart. Good game doe.
>>724048763I was going to reply to you with help but I forgot I hate frogfags. Sorry.
>>724048885It's alright.
>>724036241I didn't manage to borrow a PS5 in time to play the demo, so I'm only going off the trailers and threads>FearsKusarigama is locked to ninja and only has one stance>HopesMods will fix it
>>724039703>if you put points into defense the game stays fun all the way through.Why are you getting hit
>>724048763>Mage builds feel like they can't work in NG+Please observe the mana bar
>>723934452That bird yokai in one of the dlc's that has a lot of HP, I get filtered by it all the time. I forgot what it's called.
>>723991086I wish Team Ninja actually fixes this issue where the 2nd to 4th playthrough is filler for the real endgame once all the dlcs are released. I usually like buying games once all the content released but I actually feel I missed out for not playing content when it was relevant. It feels like an MMO in a really bad way.
>>724052228>real endgameThe real game is the first 1-2 playthroughs/DLC and the rest of the game is low effort number humping filler
Nioh story is unironically very accurate to actual history
>>724039113I guess if I asked you to elaborate on what exactly you think is tedious you wouldn't be able to
>>724051771Nioh 3 has new sexy yokai too right...
I'm going to go postal if weapon skill drop rates are still insanely low in nioh 3.
I'm just hoping that Nioh 3 still has teacups.
>>724055684See >>723934542+ Banana Oni is in (full electric musclegirl, has Kabuki tattoos too), and I'd put money that there's going to be a double trouble /fit/ rematch with her husband as a returner.
>>724057135I hope we get a catgirl yokay or some flat loli fox like tamamo please team ninja
I'm getting Axepilled
Damn how does Japan have so many different kinds of yokai
>>724052780This. I just make a new character when I want to replay.
>>724057339We already got a cat girl yokai
Are stone of penances worth doing?
>>723997291anything made by this guy https://next.nexusmods.com/profile/Mawpius/mods?gameId=3660https://www.nexusmods.com/nioh2/mods/328https://www.nexusmods.com/nioh2/mods/579www.nexusmods.com/nioh2/mods/280https://www.nexusmods.com/nioh2/mods/168https://www.nexusmods.com/nioh2/mods/58https://www.nexusmods.com/nioh2/mods/30
>>724016785well then I'm sure you're glad he's coming back in 3 as a giga nigga mini boss>>724030376bayonet was sick in RotR. Maybe it'll be a DLC weapon in 3
>>723946289>>723946660I ended up using Switchglaive instead, this shit's insane.
>>723929904Reminder Nioh 2 is one of the best video games ever made and people need to play it.
>>724064743Based, the glaive is my favorite weapon by far
>>723942145ahh bros you're gonna make me... I'm gonna... AHHHH I'M NIOOOOOOOOHING
Nioh 1 is super easy thoughTonfa Square>Square>Triangle stance breaks every enemy in the game in 1-3 uses, most in 1Charge attack beats humanoid AIConfusion dumpsters every bossIts probably the easiest soulslike I've ever played other thn Elden Ring (which gets entirely cucked by just holding block)Now Nioh 2, that's harder
>>724067937In Nioh 1, it's easy to kill and easy to be killed (disregarding living weapon)In Nioh 2, it takes more effort to kill but you're also significantly tougher to kill.I personally find 2 easier.
>>724069391Nah 1 is just really fucking easy. On almost every map you fightSkeletonBig skeletonOccasionally ogre (just walk past it or shoot it lol)Once you know how to consistently stun both skeletons with your given weapon, its just a rote repeat of that same action over and over againit barely uses every other enemy for some reason
>>724069432Yokai gf...
>>724069432making a kimono that’s properly tailored for her size so we can go into town and do our daily shopping and get dinner together
>>724067937Nioh 1 is easy, but 2 is even easier, souls cores break the game and are just free safe damage
I exclusively use female yokai soul cores because they’re my significant others that live in my shack with me offscreen
>>724070702>kasha soul core standing next to boss on highest difficulty>their hp just disappears
>>724070702Both games are easy as hell to break with a proper build, for example in Nioh 1 you can just be in Living Weapon mode forever and in Nioh 2 you can create a sick combination of Guardian Spirit and Soul Cores that make you either unstoppable or unkillable and never run out of resources
>>724069432How does one obtain a Tate Eboshi GF? Asking for a friend.
>>724072661I think most yokai females would fold instantly if they were treated nicely
>724064743>724066645
>>724073074It's...its fun alright?
>>724073074unironically the coolest weapon after tonfas
>>724036241Yeah, sadly it's obviously doomed to be another shovelware slop. It's ugly, stuttery, enemies are dumbed down, encounters are scarce, the levels are short and linear, even the writing felt worse and lazier. The devs seem like the don't care that much, although Yasuda reluctantly admitted that slopmaxxing with a shit game per year might not be the best strategy.He also said that it might be the shortest Nioh if you beeline to the Crucible, i think it's just the shortest nioh period, judging by the alpha's length and that there will be only two more open fields in the final game.I don't believe that they were making it since 2021, it looks more like an emergency decision after they realized that RotR is going to fail.
>>724074381>there will be only two more open fields in the final game.Source?
