Man watching the falcon gameranx review of this game you can tell he hates these games and only likes soulslop. He even said transformers devastation was bad in another video. I wish we could get some reviewers who actually like gameplay instead of over the shoulder walking sim slop
wait for the electric underground review it's the only one that matters.
>>723948914This is probably one of the most unapprochably difficult games on Hard mode. I think this is supposed to be for a second play through because it is ridiculously punishing, and despite all the tutorials you will go into very difficult fights without knowing how to play the game.
>>723949018He definitely ain't going to like it, it implemented Sekiro style parry slop and on top of that they gave you multiple ways to "parry" that are dogshit easy.Also the on rails sections are the typical trash Platinum puts into all their games, the kind of dogshit NO ONE wants yet they keep putting it in their games. I guarantee he will not like this trash
>>723948914Gamingbritshow
>>723949296I figured as much. He was already skeptical about the game just watching the reveal trailer and knowing Platinum was involved. He hates Bayonetta.
>>723948914I watched the dunky video and i cant believe thats Ninja Gaiden>yellow paint>radio buddy>never ending tutorial shitThere is a hot big booba girl tho.
>>723949281I'm going blind in hard mode, first Ninja Gaiden and having a blast.
>>723949018that hobo likes Wanted Dead, everything he says is and will forever be irrelevant
>>723951206Fucking kek why did they make the bridge so narrow
>>723951206日本 skies protected
>>723949296The suck to target is gonna make him go postal
Does this game have another scenario than a fucking wet cave? There is nothing else shown.
https://youtu.be/gAIQjikP7go?si=zdMyxIqkaiItMxl1souls children fear this
>>723951660a disco
>>723948914Journos are fake action game fans that only jump on the latest trends instead of giving out actual opinions on how good the gameplay is. They pretend to love souls but are not that competent to give a proper critique of it. Even a great game like MGR was given the same treatment as NG4 but when people played they realized how well made it was, same thing with DMC which makes me surprised DMC5 reviewed as well as it did .
>>723951935Dmc5 had whacky wahoo karate pizza man. That's all they care about.
>>723951987dmc5 had an amazing marketing campaign. it sold well from the devil trigger song alone
>>723951987Whacky wahoo man hasn't been the main character since 20 years though.
>>723951206>Using ID instead of GTing them into the voidLesser Ninja
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dfGgYNWhAV4the dmc training mode fags came to ninja gaiden..
>>723952367OMGGGGGG DMC BROS NINJA GYADDEN IS HECKING FIXED???????? STARTING MY HERO MODE PLAYTHROUGH NOW!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
so when is a channel going to upload all of ng4s music? all the ones i saw upload a single ost then give up
>>723952367Tbdesu platinum really pulled off a game that is punishing but let's you stylemaxx. I'm pleasantly surprised by how it turned out.
>yakumo only says fuck off in eng dubLmao
>>723948914What a pathetic thread. Bunch of faggots obsessed with the opinion of some nobody.>>723952367>>723952528Same applies to these faggots.
NG4 shit eaters are fake action game fans.
ng4 is a piece of fucking dog shit
>>723953172>>723953123>>723953101good morning
>>723953172NG4 is not a good ninja gaiden, it's not even a good platinum game.
>>723948914>He even said transformers devastation was bad in another videoBecause it is it's platinum slop.and this game is fucking garbage. platinum are such lazy niggers they shoved in a bunch of shit like slomo dodge, magnetic spiderman combat, Ripper mode that simply don't belong in NG.they gutted the moveset and removed 80% of attacks, removed essence, removed Ninpo, removed consistent delimbs,they broke the guard mechanic so it no longer works, every enemy used to have a variety of moves including grabs to break your guard, that's no longer a thing.Platinum are so fucking lazy and devoid of work ethic they recycled Ryus ported animations for the dark dragon blade (WHY THE FUCK WOULD FAGUMO USE RYUS MOVEMENTS?)AND many air animations are just ground animations. bunch of fucking hacks.>>723952367it's not even that because NG4 is as shallow as a kiddie pool, it has no directional attacks and less combos than every other NG game.
>>723953652>>723953409>>723953204
>>723953101sorry I made a joke about you dmc bro I just don't like your game
>>723953652slow mo dodge isn't a thing in this game and it doesn't have the mgr ripper mode either>errrrm but they look like them!!! trust me!!! I can only do surface level analysis because I am a fag non player!!!
>>723948914>NGfags are eceleb/reviewer tranniesNo wonder NGfags are so shit. They don't even play their games. They watch mansluts play them insteadAlso YWNBAW OP
>>723952367>when he does the echo barrage attack 80% of the slices miss the enemy.man platinum has the most pathetically incompetent nigger programmers on the planet.
Nier mediocrity killed Platinum, they are still chasing the Nier Sales instead of making good games. F ninja gaiden and F itagaki,
>>723953863Dishonest Liar. the game slows down when you i-frame dodge through something or when you get hit.no sane player wants that but they put it in because platinum are retarded
>>723948914Stop bringing literal who faggots in the OP, faggot. Why would you ever give a shit about some ugly youtuber bastard's opinion? Go play video games yourself, asshole
How much do you play as Ryu?
>>723953967>what are hitboxes
>>723954059You don't he's not in this game.just a gutted low effort player instance for false advertisement who only has one weapon and even then is missing 80% of that weapons moveset.they cared so little about being faithful nothing was ported properly and fiend blood isn't even green.
>having others dictate your tastes and preferrences
>>723954031you are a total moron, it does slow down on a perfect dodge, yeah, for a total of 0.5 seconds, it doesn't slow the game down to such a degree so you can just go into a 6 hit string like in bayo or to the point where the game loses its pace and it's easy slow mo fiesta, and if you complain about the aesthetic part of it then ng2 is total dogshit too since everytime you FS the screen flashes white for a bit and literally no sane player wants that but they put it in because Itagaki is retarded
>>723954220man you're low IQ.look at how the move is programmed in NG2.starting placement is offset from the center of the enemy and every slash is angled directly at the enemy.it's really not that hard. Platinum are just disabled chimps.
>>723954346UT's whiff from time to time on enemies in ng2 and some moves have broken tracking too
>>723954315ok so well doen on addmiting you lied about the slomo dodge.no reason for it to slow down when I dodge like kirby and BOTW. I know I've dodged. this game is made for morons.
>the trial where you fight black ninjas with only base formHoly fuark......just like the good old days
>>723954401rarely wiffs due to framerate issues but at least the attacks are always directed at the enemy and not at thin fucking air 5 miles away from them.stop trying to excuse the retardedation of programmers who should be fired.
Oof. Should've made a real Ninja Gaiden game based on Black, not the zoomer slop they shat out Zoomers don't even like these games.oh well, i hope platinum finally closes it's doors. They no longer produce interesting games, i'm sure there's a million jeets that can make a game like NG4, they don't have a purpose in the industry anymore.
>>723954451>tfw jeetnamthedrunk is too busy gaslighting himself the game is 0/10 garbage to even find out about Ninja Trials having black spider ninjassad!
>>723954431Just turn it off.
>>723952367>check his channel>hes played the other NGs so he's not even "a devil may cry player">watch vid related>he misses half the combo strings he tries and much of the video is montages of the Berserk executions the game does for youtheyre not sending their best folks
>>7239540594 chapters, only playable on all of them after you complete the game once.
>>723954315>>723954431The purpose of every "activate slowmo/special animation on successful i-frame" mechanic is to make dodging trivial by disabling the active frames of the attack if it so much as touches a player invulnerable action for one frame. In Soulslikes enemy attacks stay active and will hit you as you exit the dodge unless your dodge is timed correctly and performed in the right direction/from the right position to take you out of the damage area before you run out of i-framesAll anime flippy slowmo cartwheel extensions are a mechanical baby mode
>That basedface Also this costume would be a 10/10 if it didn't have that tail that just makes it look like a weird furry costume.
>>723952367This is just nothing. even for a "NG but with DMC juggles" this is pathetically disappointing. Really sad how shallow this games moveset is.imagine all the crazy shit you could do to a sandbag with Ryus full NG2 or NG3 arsenal and combo set.switching between Flails and Tonfas alone would be crazy.but instead you barely get 10% of that variety.
>>723954836Generic chingchong garbage
holy shit these 2 ng2 schizos are going insanecalm the fuck down retards you're not going to convince anyone
Do you think Ryu will also have weapon switching or just equipped new weapons from the menu?I think it'd be a shame if he didn't have weapon switching, but I don't know how it would work since his ninpo are on the d-pad
>>723954268keksuch the state of /v/
I'm watching this experienced player go through the game on his first playthrough and his gameplay mogs mine so hard.Granted he has played the game for like 30 hours and only just got to the chapter 11 boss so he has spent a lot of time labbing shit and hours and hours grinding out some of the super hard purgatories.
>>723954964probably double-tapping the dpad?
>>723954964Well the DLC promo art had him with both weapons at once.
>>723955024>>723954268nu/v/ is really just reddit-lite but with more slurs. Otherwise there's not much difference anymore.
>>723954836>>That basedface
>>723951935i like his raven mask
>>723954834I'm assuming you've never programed hitboxes before.that is not how you deal with that problem and it doesn't surprise me that fromsoft are retarded.basically every hitbox attack has a "hit list" every time a hitbox contacts, is parried or is i-framed through by an entity like the play, the entity gets added to that attacks "hit list" and for the rest of that hitboxes duration it never checks for collision with that entity again.this enures you don't get hit by the same attack next frame and when you dodge or parry you don't get hit by the attack you've just parried or dodged in the next state.none of this has anything to do with needing slowmotion and you do not need to disable the attack because there may be more enemy instances for it to collision check with.
This is unironically the greatest game of all time. Replaying it with Ryu on MN and I have to be focused 100% of the time and grit my teeth, a single mistake and it's over. Man I hope the dlc adds a ton of more levels.
>>723955162Stop replying to yourself.
>>723954964I really don't care about Ryu having other weapons to be honest, the only other weapon I liked using in the old games was the lunar and that still was nowhere near as fun as the dragon sword. I would rather have more new levels and enemies than a new weapon. Ideally there would be more playable characters but that's not happening in this game.
>>723949018I will wait for iconoclast instead
>>723955181i swear ive seen this exact post like 20 times now. You having a blast?
>>723955235and we've seen your exact posts about ng2 like 1000 times now, what's the difference?
>>723955235>You having a blast?nta but yeah it's really fun for the most part.
>>723955235>game with 80+ on metacritic and climbingg >anon is surprised to see at least one anon ITT saying theyre having funcurious phenomena
>>723955181Best game of the year, that's for sure.
>>723955469Shit is like, 1% away from overwhelmingly positive on steam too (I think)
>>723955469>>game with 80+ on metacritic and climbinggThat's Fable 3/Pokemon AZ levels of fail.
>>723955162>it never checks for collision with that entity againYou have the most touristy surface level understanding of game mechanics and assume that the one method you've read about is a universal truth. This is NOT how attacks are handled in souls, if you're still inside an active attack when your i-frames run out you will eat the attack and this is intentional. Handling hitbox collision in this way gives you mechanics which are closer to the original intention of a "dodge", because invulnerability itself is only a bandaid. If you don't cancel incoming attacks on collision then the player will need to care about the size, shape and movement of incoming attacks so they dodge OUT of themFlippybippy slowmo cartwheel anime bullshit animations are designed to visually hide the fact that you're cancelling the entire attack on contact so that the positioning and angle of your dodge means nothing at all
You can't change difficulty on combat trials right?
>>723949018Hope one day he unlocks mentor on ng2
>>723955657>80 on metacritic is now badwhats the next cope farnham?
Is there any ng4 thread that doesnt become a dmc retard warzone?
>>723955723How much are they paying?
>>7239557911 ninjacoin
i'm gawdlike
>>723955759it got so bad in the last thread where most anons were enjoying the game that the Sekirospammer started posting cp
>>723951286Wanted Dead's a good game.
>>723949281Im playing hard and am at chapter 11 atm. its challenging but more than doablespecially with all these consumables you get through every level.hardest fight for me its the stupid coral fiend dogs that start appearing in chapter 8. those bastards killed me more times than any boss. why are those faggots so tough man? why does every nigger mob grabs me now? stop fucking grabbing me!
>>723955859>sekiro spammer started posting cpthat faggot, whether its the same person/bot, did the same exact thing in the silent hill f threads. once anons start discussing the game completely ignoring his shitposts he starts spamming cp.this same faggot have also made it clear he likes expedition 33.
>>723955859>>723956024Absolute state of some posters
>>723954964Maybe select an item -> Select a weaponReal time switching should be a Yakumo thing.
I can't tell if the extra moves aren't very good/useful or if it's just the fact they're not in my muscle memory properly yet
>>723956724AAIIIIIEEEEE IS-SAMA PLEASE DON'T
>>723955675I didn't say it was I said fromsoft were shit and it doesn't surprise me that they're so bad at programing you can get hit by the same hitbox you've just dodged.
Holy fuck, I didn't know you can mix Ryu's heavy and normal gleam combos with each other, i thought you could only do it like with yakumo
>>723956724Lame.Ninja Gaiden is dead.
This shit is hard with Yakumo
It feels like the staff has the worst delimb rate of the lot, which is weird after Lunar
>>723953409That guy is terrible playing ngb
>>723956916Well duh, they gave it to platinum (who have made nothing but garbage for a decade) and took Ryu out of his own mainline game. but yeah NG4 definitely has the worst environment and Enemy design of the series.Most of the enemies in 4 look like plastic toys. it's embarrassing.
>>723957057I dunno if it's that weird I mean a hard stick isn't great at sending arms flying off compared to a sword.
Does anyone know what chapter this final nigga is in. I went through the 3 Fuuhaku Sanctum chapters and couldn't find him.
>>723957057Really? I think it's decent on xy and y strings, but it's great when you do yy in bloodraven with the explosions timed. I got the staff/hammer yesterday and I couldn't put down the game after that point until I had to go to sleep.
>>723953409>no shuriken cancellingDogshit gameplay. You should be ashamed for posting that gameplay.
>>723957264>3 Fuuhaku Sanctum chapters and couldn't find him.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=392JP4b-KNQ
What's behind Platinum's bright idea of including invisible "block gauge" which can be broken by any attack if it hits your block? What's wrong with the classic NG's fighting game style "every normal attacks can be blocked, except a few of them, and holding down block will get you grabbed"? Wasn't Itagaki's vision for NG a fighting game with more action? You are supposed to learn enemies' moveset and how to deal with them, and one way to do that when encountering them the first time is to block and observe.
Yeah. I pirated but I'll have to boughted this game. It is that good. $300 will leave my wallet.
>>723957346Classic ng style always punished blocking.
>>723957280
>>723955235>people having fun with a fun game>WHAT THE FUCK I SWEAR I'VE SEEN THIS BEFOREYeah? Fucking dumbass
>>723956724Yakumo should of been one of these guys
>>723957382But blocking enemies' blockable moves then punish their minus frames has always been a part of classic NG gameplay, aswellthoughbeit
>>723957150>but yeah NG4 definitely has the worst environment and Enemy design of the series.Both 1 and 2 had garbage enemy visual designs with little to no care for aesthetic consistency so I'm not sure what you're talking about.
>>723957347If you were a Redditor or a Youtuber, I'd flay you for not supporting any NG or Nooh while making innumerous "Gaming is dead" videos. But you are an Anon amd therefore my friend. Please save up your $300 for important issues and buy the game on sale.
How is the sound design for this game so bad?
>>723957428Hell nah, a new clan open for more stories, even if they had to retcon them in the story.
>>723957534it's the audio balancingas soon as i put sfx to 100 and music to 70 and dialogue to 50 it all sounded way better
>>723957490You keep posting sigma garbage
>>723957346It is an incentive to perfect block/dodge. They most likely didn't have time (or were lazy) to give all enemies a grab attack so they chose to give them at least one multi-hitting combo that will break your guard if you rely on it too much.>>723957514I already gave them my support when the re-releases launched. Just didn't buy Blacked 2. Yet.
>>723957490this armor is literally the worst design in the entirety of NG1 and you cherry picked it and one reason it's so bad is because it's so out of place with everything else in the NG combined with the limited graphics of the time.in NG4 all the main ninjas look as bad as this armor design.
>>723950425>oh no is that a specific colour I hate this colour reeeee Tomonobu-san help me I'm going insane
>>723951935>same thing with DMC which makes me surprised DMC5 reviewed as well as it did .DMC is the THE mainstream action franchise, it's the one most people recognize, by a developer everyone recognizes. The production value is also way higher than most pure action games so Journos don't actually have much to critique anyway so they just hand out a good score and say some shit like "finally a good action game again" like they fucking care.
>>723957490>tfw always loved the military designs in NGB
>>723957428And Yakumo should be chummy and respectful to the guy that slaughtered thousands of his friends and family?
>>723957643Why is it called Ninja Gaiden 4 in my library?
>>723957737those mech demons in NG2 with the boiling Oil for blood were fucking ballin.Platinum games should have taken notes from that games visual design instead of making cheap garbage that looks like Bayo3/Astral chain.
>>723957821Because I haven't buyoughted it yet.
>>723957346Grabs always had shit tells, the block gauge is nice because you understand when you need to get out of the hole and move or fight back. It amounts to the same thing in practice (you can’t just block forever, it’s only a temporary fix when overwhelmed) but with more legibility. Note that they also gave most enemies the ability to throw guard break attacks at you, which are functionally the same as the grabs (in that they ignore blocks), just with a different tell.
How do I parry bros Ive beaten this 3 times and it still feels random whether hitting LT before the attack connects will do it
All things considered, Yakumo being 100% the protagonist with all of the good stuff is pretty baller.I guess that make him a Raiden rather than a Nero.
>>723957972Wait what? Isn’t LT the bloodraven gauge? You can’t just parry with that can you? Don’t you need to either attack or block?
>>723957346>>723957643Literally just platinum being lazy and incompetent and not understanding game design.every enemy in old NG games had a varity of moves including guard breaks/grabs.Platinum didn't want to put in the effort required. they couldn't even program OTs without sliding all the assest around with a glitchy unprofessional way that looks like shit.and so they broke the core paper, scissors, rock gameplay loop and didn't even realize cause they're such fuckin morons.
>>723958027Sorry anon I use LT for blocking on preset 2 like the older NGs. Bloodraven is RT for me.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dFqYXROcdg4ninja gaiden died with black.
>>723958037Stop being such a complain bitch JFC. The game is great.
VGH
>>723958085stop eating shit faggot. no it's not good. the game is called ninja gaiden 4. that comes with a lot of standards that are no being met at all.
>>723958037KEK even Murai the tutorial boss throws you around if you block too much
>Yakumo behaving like an Edgy Boy>first section is on a moving trainThey really want to get Rising 2 out of their system.
>>723958164>They really want to get Rising 2 out of their system.it's already in development, the MG Hotline fags keep alluding to it when answering the community questions about future konami entries
>>723958041Ah. Time it better then, only advice I have. Without measuring I’d guess it’s a 6-frame window to hit.
>>723957280shuriken cancelling is a meme for reddit retards that don't even play the game. The guy in the webm looks like he was having fun.
>>723958037No one likes the unreactable super armor grabs that plagued every NG boss anyway. Literally every enemy has a guard break in the form of red attacks, they just made it more game-y to make it more intuitive.
>>723958153You have no standards you're just a schizo pulling shit out of your ass to justify making whatever contrived complaint you can make up.
the enemy grabs you so fast in MN i wish i had my recording on
>>723958376at least this is just a random anon calling a game bad and not the cpspamming sekiroanon
>>723948914I only would play for cute Kunoichi girls in distress should I buy?
>>723958332get good faggot.
i think astral chain is a better game and that game was slow and kinda garbage
>>723958037If you play the old games enough, you'll see the enemy move sets are rather lacking, they don't have enough options.
never played these games somehow but just started modded ninja gaiden sigma black and it kicks ass. just got to chapter 4 and have no idea what im doing but its very fun. should i play ng2 black next or modded sigma 2??
>>723958919>should i play ng2 black next or modded sigma 2??they both have a mod that does functionally the same thing, called ngs2 black and ng2b white respectively
>start playing Ryu>he's fucking dogshit and I want to go back to Yakumo alreadyI miss my lance so much it's unreal, Ryu cannot deal with fucking lanterns at all.
>>723958919You should go up the difficulty ladder next, it's very satisfying to learn the game. If you want to play 2 immediately just ignore what retards in here say and pick whatever unmodded version is more easily available to you, you can toy around with emulators and mods later
>Tengu blocks my attack>have no Bloodraven gauge>muscle memory tells me to do guillotine throw >Enemies can block it for some reason>do wind path>wind path doesn't give a guranteed stagger so they just start blocking againThe fuck am I supposed to do here?
>>723959051The opposite of my experience. I played on hard mode and before chapter 14 I only got C or B ranks on every chapter, then the moment I played as Ryu I barely died a single time and only got S or A ranks. Using his sword moveset feels like second nature, like coming home.
These games are a bit more civil without the schizo claiming only 2 people are shitting on the game and the zoomers posting their difficulty auto fellation "oh yeah bro this game is hard good hard im getting parries bruh"Game sucks, glad you are enjoying it but i know deep inside that you also know that is fucking ass. The game falls apart during chapter 5-7 with the amount of enemies and how tanky they are, how dull the combat is, how weird and "off" it feels to parry the bosses. Fucking hate the bingbing wahoo air rides, never played the transformers game but i'm sure ng4 is worse. I'm curious to see how the Ninja Master difficulty changes the game, the enemies, their movesets but knowing how the modern gaming industry is in 2025 i sincerly doubt it'll change a thing
>>723958985kk cool. i guess i'll check out ng2b white because fancy graphics and reviews seem generally positive>>723959101i kinda just want to play thru the series and don't really care about mastering them desu. maybe in the future.
>>723959247>don't really care about mastering themWrong genre then faggot try horizon zero dawn
>>723957807There is no loyalty in the spider clan. In fact contrary to how they are present every game, the spider clan is actual somehow was the most totally neutral ninja clan in the universe, they didnt see good or evil, work is just work to them, Genshin's uprising was seen as fringe thing oddly enough and the the leadership was just too old to really stop them and tell their younger members to stop crashing out. Yakumo could have literally been a Spider nigga and it would still fit.
>Elevator segment near the end>Instant death to anything that falls off the sides>mfw enemies are all humansGuillotine throw is so fucking busted in this game
>Still no art of CHADryu destroying Yacuckmo's bussy
>>723959314oh yeah i forgot that you're not supposed to have fun playing video games my bad
>>723949281It most certainly is. Nothing wrong with starting on normal, I did the same with 3
>>723959360> do this on MN>mid throw the elite DDO soldier blocks my throw, i panic and try to flying swallow, he blocks me and counter attacks taking 3/4 of my hpthanks?
>>723959375You will have more fun in a genre more suited to people that want disposable quick fun. nuGOW should be right up your alley too.
good ol master ninja
>>723959147Attack them from behind?
>>723959360>Guillotine throw is so fucking busted in this gameHalf the fucking enemies block and counter your shit
>>723959147Get fucked that's what, my favorite shit is enemies blocking Izuna drop in MID FUCKING AIR after being launch. These enemies and their bullshit are the stuff I live for right now.
>>723959504They can only block GT on master ninja, I haven't started my MN playthrough yet but on hard absolutely nobody could stop the guilly
>>723959454That's why OTs were made. delimbed enemies are a threat. in NG2 delimbs were more reliable tho.
>>723948914>NG thread>ctrl+F souls>ctrl+F sekiro>leave
>>723959561No they block it in hard too.
i fucking knew it, there's like a dodge/parry UT i just did it again, i knew i wasn't crazy.
>>723959449i'm just going to continue having fun playing ng black on normal difficulty. seethe some more nigger
>>723959584I know, it's just nice to see they're an actual threat in NG4 too. MN throws so many enemies at you but in waves, not 50 on screen.
>>723959604yeah your guy decided to post cp so i think the jannies got him
>>723958919Ninja gaiden sigma black isnt actually like a mod that changes the game mechanically at all, it's just cosmetic stuff. Ng sigma 2 black mod is an actual autistic mod that changes everything
>>723959618>normalmight as well play on easy since you don't want to get good faggot
>>723959454>I am a genius.>OH NO *BOOM*
>>723959609Im not 100% sure there's a parry one but technically some of his dodge animations make him jump slightly which leads into an on landing UT.
>>723949018>Ninja Gaiden 4 is a MISUNDERSTOOD MASTERPIECE
>>723959525That kind of dogshit happens because there is no holistic vision, modern game design is to give a million fucking busted mechanics to the player so the game doesn't feel "clunky" and then realize that if the enemies behave consistently the game is easy as fuck, so they have to go back, give busted mechanics to the enemies as well and pray that the end result makes some kind of sense
>>723959807good point im changing to easy :)
>>723959618Have fun dude NGB is a one of a kind.>>723959807It's the default difficulty, you need to beat it in first to unlock hard and beat hard to unlock master iirc, games used to be made for gamers.
>>723959375You have to invest just a bit of time to learn gamepay mechanics to amplify the fun you have with the game.
>>723959845Nah, he won't like it. The enemies and your own moves being this magnetic will trigger him probably lol
>>723959887>Implying he has any real convictionsNG is selling poorly which means he has to come in with the contradictory opinion that this means the game is AMAZING
>>723959606I never had it happen, maybe I just got lucky. But I did use it a ton against DDO dudes and the little pink fiends (which feel huge in this game because of Yakumo being a short king)
>>723959609You are probably just button mashing, getting a parry and activating the fast charge for the UT by absorbing the red orb that drops from a successful parry.
>>723957601That enemy is in NGB faker
>>723959832yeah you can do land UT with his perfect dodge, pretty cool
>>723959951I love how this game makes bottomless pits part of the combat.
I am having an awful time in purgatories but I can't seem to stop myself from picking the hardest option every time
>>723959864Hard is unlocked immediately. I wish there was some fucking hidden setting to unlock very hard and master ninja without having to defeat doku in ch2. I'm fucking tired of looking for savegames every time i feel like playing.
>>723957686>>723950425The yellow paint wouldn’t be that egregious if the game didn’t have a button you can press to tell you exactly where to go.Why shit up the environments with yellow paint when players can just use that instead?
>>723958258>all the talent at plat leaves>immediately get NG4 and MGR2
>enemies are sandbags with bloated hp>so they fill the arenas with range to give the enemies a chance to fight back>the fight turns into a shitshow Thanks Itagaki
I WANNA HEALI WANNA FEELLIKE I'M CLOSE TO SOMETHING REAL
>>723959951>which feel huge in this game because of Yakumo being a short kingDo we have his official height?
>>723959951DDO guys barely block guillotine throws, but right before you get to the DDO HQ almost every non-jobber fiend is blocking throws. I dont know if they even get buffed in the HQ after the start of the game, maybe not, but they did throw in a bunch of new soldier types at least.
>Kagachi
>>723958391
Does anyone know where to find the faggot for the consumed by corruption achievement? They have his icon (I guess that's supposed to be him) on mission 6 and I've failed to find him twice already.
>>723959951The maneater dudes do it when they get started on their bullshit. And as for DDO goons, they'll do it to if they have enough room to trade blows with you.
>>723960167linking park ost would not feel outta place in this game.
>>723952367>NG2 schizos when they see anyone playing the game without spamming UTs and OTs>>723953172You can slice a leg, OT and them UT to reduce 90% of the enemies in that image.
>>723960219>he actually travels over to the airborne enemies>doesnt just Bloodraven Shuriken button.
>>723960182No but we know Hayabusa is 5ft 10, Yakumo is quite a bit shorter so I would say 5ft 6 or maybe 5 ft 5 even.
>>723960391Bro it's undestandable shurikens have just been for cancelling only until this game. You know how pissed i was at myself finally learning about 3 bosses later that Bloodraven shuriken is actually very useful?
The box is fucking kino lads
Yakumian kino
>>723960501Hey, still taller than the king of short kings.
>>723949018Mork status has fallen.
>>723951342Because that's good level design. It would only get better if the safety ropes were removed and falling into a bottomless pit would instantly kill you.
>>723955210Iconoclast is a great player but has some of the worst taste i've seen
>>723960582What did they mean by this
I was actually having fun with Yakumo, understanding he's a different character from Ryu. However nothing can quite describe the emotion i felt when i finally got to play as Ryu, immediately did a ->Y, only to find out his entire DS moveset was neutered and watered down to Yakumo's level. Bummed me off so much I haven't picked the game back up since. The moveset I trained so hard with, with each single move serving a different purpose to clear every single situation in the game, completely stripped and reduced to purposeless XXXXX button mashing. I guess according to this retarded board no one played the older games so if you are upset about this must be baiting. Fuck off, glad I pirated.
This is Platinum’s best game. It’s the pace of Gaiden mixed with that MGR polish. It’s extremely good so far. Very hard between this and Banaza for GOTY.
>>723949018>Video game journalists-This post is correct though.
>>723948914>furry avian has shit taste more news at 11
>>723960808>third world pirate fag>anything worth saying
Where are the flower kunai locations?
>>723960981Yes, your game doesn't deserve money. Platinum could have used the money thethey paid you to shill on Denuvo, if this game wasn't made on a shoestring budget thanks to Koei being greedy fucks exploiting their old IPs for their name and nothing else. Retard.
>>723961041Ayane's Sky City Tokyo one is here.The one in valley of wind is below you along the main path near the end of the mission kind of out in the open.The one in chapter 8/9 is on top of a crate.The final one for Dragon's Maw isn't even in Dragon's Maw, it's right after the first fight of chapter 11, go through the door and look to your left.Enjoy anon, I lost 20 fucking hours finding them all.
>>723949018His alter ego wasn't impressed>>723959887yup
>>723961089Ah yes, Koei being greedy after an 11 year hiatus and shelving out for the cheap developers, Platinum, the worst developer for action games with such atrocities like:>Astral Chain>Automata>Rising>Bayonetta 2
>>723961146Except for obliteration, which is most times welcome, I don't feel this at all.
>>723961136Thank you anon. I will never forget this.
>>723961191This partnership only happened because Koei and Platinum's presidents are friends. Modern day Platinum is barely a developer anymore, they're a contractor. Holy fucking shit at least I would have hoped they trained you guys correctly with fresh information.
>>723961146Neither Bog or Mork cleared MNM.
>>723961280I should clarify the first one in pic rel is after the 2nd set of shops, you jump up a shaft and land. Turn around and it's on your right.
>>723960147when will people stop sucking cock of muh retirement age talent?we literally need NEW talent and new legends to pop up in japanese studios. what's happening with platinum (old farts retreating to form boomer teams and letting young blood shine) should be win-win, no?
>>723961332>farnham hasnt touched trials>claims black spider ninjas arent in the game>they are
Ryu's rolling slash and landing X are some of my favourite moves so I'm sad his moveset has been gutted like this. If you're only going to port over one weapon then at least fucking get it right, I would've been happy with that.
>>723961410"buy the DLC faggot" - TN
>>723961405Why are NG 'vets' like this?
The dunkey video was the worst thing I've ever seen. Getting upset because a game has a tutorial section and that being 6 minutes of an 8 minute video is the worst part. So disingenuous these retards shit talking the game clearly haven't played it or if they play it, they sucked at it
>>723961410Yeah it's really strange. I don't understand what would lead to a decision like this internally.
>>723961327Actually it happened because of Phil Spencer specifically
>>723961405Watch him say it doesn't count because they have no IS.
>>723961136Thanks, bro!
>yooo this game is fire
>>723961327>developed by Platinum GamesBack to whatever retarded Discord your three others came gay Indonesian friends came from.
>>723961527>guardresets are backSOUL
It's interesting, the archives section in the main menu reveals that the Raven Clan is actually a branch clan of the Hayabusa clan.
>>723961410Also I dont know if it was somehow for technical reasons since there aren't any forward inputs at all, but come the fuck on you already have BACK TO FORWARD INPUTS just remove one from the equation
Hayabussy
>>723961358Japanese culture isn't really a fan of letting some young guy that doesn't have shit to his name direct a game. Kamiya only got his start because a slightly older but definitely more respected guy on the team (Mikami) suggested that he take over the directors role for RE2.So really you need old bags that know what they are doing on Jap dev teams, otherwise the new blood won't be found.Itsuno talked about doing this too with his DMC team, but I'm guessing instead of actually training someone to be his successor he just took the ones that were willing to the Chinese company he is now working for.
>>723949281I don’t understand starting on hard, I always start on normal to grasp the mechanics and I have died on normal more than I did in NGB or NG2. The game is great though so once I beat normal I will challenge myself with hard and so on and get as much content out of the game as I can.
>>723961471>dunkeyI'm yet to understand how he's popular. There are ecelebs that are good at games, the ones with good takes and the funny ones. He's neither.
>>723961549Quite literally nothing you are saying disproves anything I am saying. Notice how you avoided in any possible way to address my original point which was entirely about Ryu's gameplay itself. Your defense is as cheap as however much you got paid to defend this.
>>723948914I'm struggling through but I still feel like I don't 'get' the combat, I've seen some videos that tell me to be constantly dodging, but all the vets are saying blocking is the priority and the way to play, but the timing between dropping your block to attack seems way too long, and you can only block when you finish a combo which is impossible to get up in time, even with good timing, since you constantly get attacked by other enemies when you're in a combo. Even in a one on one fight, like with that thief the side missions keep sending you after, he'll swipe you mid combo that's way too fast to stop attacking and blockI'm still struggling to grasp the blood attack stuff too, I just use it when the enemies turn white and parry everything? It feels when I get them out of that, they're back in it 2 hits later
>>723961527>guard resets still workwell then why the fuck did they fuckup the whole guard functionally and balance then?how fucking hard would it have been to make it play like a NG game?as the webm shows you can just mash infinite guard anyway so what was the harm in held guard actually fucking working?
>Normal feels like hard already
Aw fuck, i just picked up my copy and found the xbox logo on the cover, does that mean i have to download the entire game anyways?
Beat NG4 on hard, starting next playthrough soon but I will go back to play Black again first.Best action game of this decade easily, I rate it 8.5/10. Deduct half a point for not enough Ryu, and deduct a full point for no Momiji.My other big gripe is that results are calculated to punish exploration and good use of resources, instead only rewarding speedrunning.
>>723961471>>723961702Dunkey is one of those figures where if you think he's right he's based and if you think he's wrong he's just joking and being silly.He unironically should've stuck to his reddit-tier humor videos instead of trying to larp a serious reviewer
>>723961693>I don’t understand starting on hardI 1000%d OG2 and 3RE. Starting on anything less than hard is a disservice to the misery of those ninja trials.
>>723961770Yeah Koei paid me. Big money too. The fuck you gonna do about it? I sit here with my 4 billion from Koei and Platnum, and what do you have? Crying about Ryo Hayasaki’s move set or whatever. Lmao
>>723949018>mork>it's the only one that matters.
>>723961702I thought some of his older videos were funny but as I've gotten to play some of the games he makes videos on it's clear if he doesn't like a game he will make sure the video makes the game seem tedious. >>723961814When he finishes a game he will make a long ass video praising it and give an actual look into how it works. Seems like he's not finishing a lot of what he plays before he makes the video on it.
>>723949018JayTB and Bigalski are far better players than that retard.
>>723961785One weird thing in all NG games is that your guard is active before the animation shows. The way the game works is there are a bunch of recovery frames after attacks where, if you are holding guard, your character will visibly be ending the attack animation, but the guard state is active, and if you take damage it will cancel the recovery frames into a block. It’s kind of a weird choice, it’s designed to make the animations look better but it definitely strips you of important information about the game state.Moral of the story is, you can block sooner than you think you can after an attack. Hold the button and hope.
>>723961937>Seems like he's not finishing a lot of what he plays before he makes the video on it.But enough about Mork.
>>723961982>jaytb is the only ng autist who isnt a lolcow>he says it's good because it's not like NG2that's my goat right there
>>723961885Thank you for admitting you don't know anything about the game.
>>723961982>jaytblmao
What’s the first sentence of Electric Underground’s review again?
>>723962035I dont know a lot of the names mentioned ITT cause I just play games to find out if they are good
>>723962092>guy with full time job only had time for 1 playthrough at the time of that comment>anon thinks we should laugh at him not knowing thist. unemployed
>>723962023NG 4 doesnt have guardbuffering.
Mork derangement syndrome is an epidemic, excited to see the meltdown when he reviews it
>>723962092>something that isn't tutorialized and is a completely new mechanic takes a while to findLet me guess, you found out about OL UT's in chapter 3 of NGB
Only DSP's opinion matters.
>>723962092>Errm you didn't know this minor thing about a new game? Heh, guess you're not that good after allGenius at work
>>723951935>when people played they realized how well made it was,>>723951206
>>723962139Really? It feels like it does. It’s a smaller window but you definitely can’t early-cancel attacks with the guard input.
>>723962023I mentioned this in a previous thread but my problem is I tend to still hold the joystick in a direction when I'm attacking, so even with good reactions when I go to hit the block button it will automatically make me dodge, I'm trying to unlearn it but it's tough, I've always struggled in games where holding a direction when during an attack changes which move you do
>>723962092I dont understand how people didnt know this immediately. Why wouldnt you try and pressing circle to see if it did anything? I knew about this in chapter 2
>>723961405Say what you want to say about DMC fans but you won't find frauds pretending to be veterans like you do in NG.
>>723962225>No game has a FUNNY bugThis game detractors really are trannies.
>>723961405>It doesn't count because it's not in the story!That's the next line
who
>>723949018Fuck off Mark!
>>723962340Did trappy seething about his boy crush Ryu not tip you off
>>723962194basedhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Kj0N-GJZLMc
>>723962415This video and the one where he reviews shampoo or whatever by taking a shower on camera are pure works of art
>>723962407But who should I listen to then? TELL ME!
>>723961607they say that in game toothey both work together but hayabusa is constantly in the spotlight while raven deals with the trash left
>>723962260Because the game has a tedious tutorial where it tells you what every single button does but it leaves out that particular move for some reason. So it's completely normal to assume that you think that you know about every mechanic already.
ny biggest discovery was that RB+A is a stance just like RB+RTyou don't need to press RB+A+Y at the same time
>>723962485Listen to your heart.
>>723962065Lmao keep crying bitch Koei paid me good you broke
>>723962260>why wouldn’t you experiment with inputs in a game that literally reminds you of every attack input with an on-screen pop-up, even on the hardest difficulty, until you manually disable it in the options?Gee I wonder why people didn’t think to experiment with inputs the game didn’t describe.
>>723962294The worst part is Farnham IS a vet, he's just a hyper-autist shitskin who LARPS as an aryan german and wants every game to play like NG2-2 when he could just play 2.
>>723948914I finished the game on HARD. Man, what an absolutely amazing game. Chapter 18 OST made be shiver and get teary eyes, well played Platinum Games. Chapter 19 was awesome too. What an awesome experience all around, I can't believe an actual game like this was made in todays era. It cleansed me of all the taint from open-world dogshit and RPG-stats build making dogshit. I cancelled my Nioh 3 pre-order just now, not wasting any time on any game that is either open-world/field or has any form of RPG-stat autism build making time wasting dogshit.Chapter Based structure of Ninja Gaiden 4 is flawless, you get the immersive first playthrough and then you can revisit anything you want and play on Master Ninja or do challenges etc. PHENOMENAL.This game made me realize I hate gamers and moder gaming industry, all these souls-faggots getting filtered and giving the game bad review. All the western subhumans official critics couldn't stand that Ninja Gaiden 4 is unashamedly JAPANESE and revels in its JAPANESENESS, so they give lower review scores, because they are racist and insecure and know Japanese make superior games.I'm done with 99.99% of modern gaming, not buying new games unless they can give me the quality and fun that Ninja Gaiden 4 gives with no time-wasting elements.I'll be replaying NG4, NGB, NGII for a long time. There is still stuff in Armored Core VI I need to do too. THIS IS TRUE GAMING.
>>723962506The tutorial is not tedious at all lmao why are you lying
>>723961840For someone like you I get it, but I’ve been seeing noobs in these threads saying they’re starting on hard which makes no sense to me.
>>723962673unfathomably basedi think it's going unappreciated that we get chapter select with both characters, NG+, and an auto cutscene skipfeatures DMChads like me have been crying for for YEARS
>>723954619BaitAsmongold is streaming II Black right now. I think its also a rerun of his prior stream on the game. The game flopped because it looks ugly as fuck with dull washed out colors.
>>723962621What you said in your greentext has nothing to do with what I talked about.
>>723962759>The game flopped because it looks ugly as fuck with dull washed out colors.but enough about 3RE
>>723962673In all seriousness I felt like this too seeing ng4 struggle in sales. Video games are not for me anymore apparently.
>>723962706Stopping the game with a pop up and not letting you proceed until you follow on screen button prompts isn't good design. It is tedious, that's why they let you skip it, it's for retards.
>Ninja Gaiden 4 thread>literally fucking /who/ e-celebs
>>723962673Hell yeah, brother. This is a gamers game.
>>723962673What are you even talking about, the game is critically acclaimed! the action fan persecution complex is so bizarre to me.
>>723962824That happens for maybe 3 minutes at the start of the game. Your argument has no weight
Seeing Ayane made me feel like the Bloodraven Katana.
>>723963078>argumentWhat the fuck am I arguing about you retard. I said that a mechanic isn't tutorialized. That is a fact. Stop crying.
>>723962673holy midwityou're getting there tho, just play more games
>>723962673True heartfelt post. Jaded /v/ losers will call this post out, but they’re dead inside.
I think this is game of the year.
>when you fight only fiends as ryu and the old ng2 music playsabsolute cinema
>>723962673Yeah, it's great when a game set out to do something and don't lose focus. While waiting for NG4 i was jumping from game to game, passing time. But as soon as it came out i was glued on the screen, not wanting to play anything else. The gameplay, the challenge, everything just clicks. I wish i had morte time to play, but i'll finishi it in the weekend for sure and them start my suffering in MN mode. I'm finding NG4 much harder even in the normal dificulty. Maybe i got used to the other games and i'm trying to hard to rely on ID and UTs.
If it ain't Black it ain't right.
>>723962673Based video game enjoyer
>>723963125It's common sense to think your power up form has its own variant of attack.
*AHEM*fuck 2autistsfuck farnhamfuck Yakumo gameplay hatersfuck Ryu 1 weapon doompostersand most importantly,fuck (you)(Ng4 is goty and it's not even close even with the lame characterisation of Yakumo and the boring story)
>>723962673Grow up and 1cc some arcade games instead
>>723963330>>723963284>>723963278>>723963349bot broke
>>723963330I can't remember the last time I was glued to the screen like I am now playing ng4. I like silksong a lot, but ng4 made me pause my act 3 wrap up.
Can someone genuinely explain the thought-process behind these parasocial relationships with reviewers and content creators? Just play the game
>>723962673
>>723963403This is better than Silk, but Silk is the indie darling so it’ll get more attention.
>fighting about a game you dont like and havent playedHow is this what men do now?
>phase 2 Kagachi starts blocking all my bloodraven movesThis nigga
>>723963353Ok thanks for your input ESL-kun. But as I have already said the tutorial goes over each variety of attack but leaves out this one in particular. Try to read my post next time, thanks!
>>723963452Mental illness, there's a large proportion of people around these days who cannot have an opinion on anything, they have to default to someone else's viewpoint.
>>723963452Insecure losers who have no identity so they attach themselves to what they consume
>>723963479I just mashed him to death while failing to dodge half his attacks. I don't think the game really starts until MN.
>>723963452Where mark where mark
>>723963518it's the majority of peopleSounds like you are the mentally ill so am I
>that final part with yakumo climbinggenuinely my goty, they made him as cool as ryu
>the soundtrack that starts playing like halfway through chapter 12K I N O
>Yakumo in EN: Shadow the Hedgehog my bishie >Yakumo in JP: cool ass Asian dude
GIVE TIPS FOR THE KAGACHI FIGHT HE IS RAPING MY YAKUBUSSY AND I'M ONLY ON NORMAL
>>723948914Everyone except ninjatard knows this game is hot dogshit and playercount already shows that nobody cares for this slopAlso stop comparing your shitty button masher to art games that is soulsbornekiro
Is that Polyphia playing the Umi terminal song?
>>723963452I'm a loser cuck and need validation from famous celeb
>>723963501Its fine if this is your first hack and slash but it's very common to have to figure out hidden mechanics on your own. If you never thought to even try pressing your range attack with BR to see what happens, you're just retarded.
>>723963734average "hard games lover" when faced with difficult game that has more than two mechanics to keep track of
>>723963734Weak bait. To be fair though, you can't compare a good game like sekiro to shit like souls.
>>723963724You can survive 6 blocks of his strings and then dodge to the left, he'll try to charge a strong attack and you can hit him with bloodraven. I prefer Bloodraven A+Y, so you go up high and avoid any arching retaliatory strings.>t. beat MN with Ryu and Yakumo
>>723962673Buy an ad shill
>>723963793>weak bait>still repliesDumbass it isn't weak bait if you reply
>>723963702>Yakumo in JP: cool ass Asian dudeThat's just because you don't understand what he is saying.
>>723963868there are subtitles and his intonation
>NOOOO STOP THE GAME I HAVENT PLAYED IS TRASH I KNOW BECAUSE I SAW A VIDEO ON IT>YOU'RE PLAYING DOGSHIT AND YOU DON'T KNOW IT YET>STOP HAVING FUNNN AGHHHHHHHH
>>723963838>beat MNHow the fuck did you deal with the absurd amount of damage enemies shit out? It's smegma 2 bad.
>>723963702The difference is so big. Like Yakumo is legitimately just a straight up different character between the dubs.They were so based for making the JP dub have accurate subs
>>723963868You don't understand Japanese
>>723948914You mean the guy who constantly loses his train of thought and switches his pronunciation of Gaiden several times within a single sentence is too dumb for this game?
Do Rollslop fags automatically beef with any genre that is not their own? Its almost as if the game has action in any way shape or form, thousands of these retards roll around threads bitching about how their games are superior.
>>723963917>>STOP HAVING FUNNN AGHHHHHHHHi dont think i will>>723963939It's nowhere near on par with Sigma 2 because barely any enemy tries to grab anymore. Stay airborne, build up meter, use your hold charge bloodraven attacks for fastest berserk buildup, use berserk just combos to instakill mobs and hit L3+R3 to get out of a dicey situation in a pinch. Most arenas have pits you can throw problematic mobs into to instakill. You can run by a lot of encounters. Portals that summon more enemies can be destroyed in one UT or with yakumo's A+Y bloodraven move x2.
>>723964056Yes. Remember that "SOVLS VET" who got filtered by a village Khezu in MHR?
>>723963982>switches his pronunciation of Gaiden several times within a single sentence is too dumb for this game?They do this to ragebait comment and increase engagement. The modern internet is a joke with too many creators fighting over a shrinking audience pool
>>723964097>heyzeusherestoast>find out about khezugate a year late>go to his chat>type "khezu">perma ban with no appeallel
>>723964056Soulslike games blew up and have a bigger market than hack and slash ever did unfortunately. So their crowd is larger but that doesnt mean the games are better, they're just more accessible. Hack and slash games are too fast paced and mechanical for people now.
>>723963868I know Japanese though? Why would you play Japanese games without even knowing the language?I was wondering why people didn't like Yakumo, I guess the dub explains it. Didn't listen to a second of it.
>>723963702Ah, the Raiden effect.
How is combat in NG? Are moves super difficult to pull off where you need to do shit like flick your analogue stick at exactly 29 degrees or else the move won't come out? I just gave up on all 2D fighting games cause of that shit.
>>723964056Ninja Gaiden is a series known for its difficulty, so Fromkids get really defensive about it because that's like saying that calling things the "dark souls" of gaming is retarded.
>>723952262DMC4 dante was a complete character and you play half the game as him. and he saves nero
>>723964292I think its because japanese think twinks are manly despite their delicate traits.
>>723964097>>723964150>he even specifically defended himself by stating that he is a souls vet, so his failure can only be explained by bad game design
>>723949018Yeah we need to know if it reaches the high mark of Wanted Dead LMAO ahahahaha
>>723955907It's one of the worst action games ever made>b-b-b-but I got good at itThat doesn't make it good, that just makes you retarded
>>723964309Have you played any Platinum game in the past 20 years? NG4 just plays like that.
>>723964346>and he saves neroRyu is the only reason Yakumo was able to summon the DDB lol
Does the cracked version includes Ryu's DLC weapons? I wanted to buy the game but then I found out some content is locked behind paid dlc.
>>723964484The DLC isnt out until next year
>>723962673You mentioned it but Armored Core VI was the game that made me realize that I super missed mission based structures for video games. Why does every game need to have a seamless flow between action like everything is one continual scene?
>>723964484only cosmetics right now
>>723964309The combat is the main appeal of these games. You need to understand some mechanics like onland state that allows you to charge supers fast, and ng4 does a better job at explaining these mechanics than the previous games. There are no hard inputs, in previous titles most strings just used face buttons, some moves and strings require you to press forward+attack, in ng4 there are circular and back>forward motions as well, but nothing that requires strict execution.
>>723964471is ryu a complete character in NG4 without DLC? do you play half the game as him?thought so
>>723964454Well I ask cause the answer to that question is no and I've never played a single NG game either.>>723964572Nice that's pretty much exactly what I wanted to hear. I can get my grips around simply getting to know how moves can flow into each other but if I end up shitting out the wrong move cause I moved my stick slightly too far to the right or needed to delay a button press for .2 more seconds and i can never get a feel of the flow of combat. It took me fucking ages to get used to combat in DMC5. Also enemy attacks look a metric shit ton more readable than most action games these days where shit is a blurry mess with particle effects out the ass making it so I can't fucking tell what the enemy is even doing. I swear visual clarity in action games is a lost art form.
>celeb shit threadThe absolute state of NG
>>723964767Dante wasn't a complete character either retard that's why even the most ardent 4Style autists will tell you his kit is weak, undercooked and only shines when using inertia, distortion, guard flight and jc lucifer into rebellion and gilgamesh.
>>723964867Truke, there's a reason why you only see DMC4 Dante players use the same handful of moves to deal decent damage. His kit is weak as fuck and they nerfed him into the ground due to style switching, thankfully 5 made him strong as fuck again
>>723964998yup, that and we know from the artbook and Itsuno himself that Dante was put in very last minute when Capcom called time to put the game out
Falcon likes this type of shit though
>>723964851>Well I ask cause the answer to that question is noI've got to ask, how? How do you manage to get through life without at least playing something like Bayo or Nier a tomato?
>>723962092I've found it instantly just by experimenting with different button inputs after the train tutorialhow are these supposed le elite ultra hardcore players so bad at basic videogame stuff?
>>723964998>>723965094I genuinely couldn't imagine how shit DMC5 would have been if it were just Nero and V. Both of them feel like ass to play.
>>723964867dante moveset on DMC4:Universal abilities: Side Roll - Lock on + Left/Right on the analog stick + Jump Kick Jump - Press the jump button near a wall after jumping once Speed - Continue holding the analog stick in the same direction to begin sprinting (10 steps req) Enemy Step - Press jump in mid air while near an enemy to use him/her as a stepping stone Air HikeRebellionRebellion Combo A:Triangle / Y - Triangle / Y - Triangle / YRebellion Combo B:Triangle / Y - Slight Pause - Triangle / Y - Triangle / YStinger:Lock on + Forward (hold) + Triangle / YMillion Stab:Lock on + Forward + Triangle / YRound Trip:Triangle / Y (Hold until Rebellion glows red and makes a distinct noise)High Time:Lock on + Back + Triangle / Y (Holding Triangle / Y will have Dante follow the enemy)Helm Breaker:Triangle / Y (Mid air)Prop / Swordmaster:Circle / BShredder / Swordmaster:Circle / B after Prop (Hold Circle / B to add hits)Drive / Swordmaster:Lock on + Back + Circle / B (Can charged up two more levels)Quick Drive / Swordmaster:Triangle / Y + Circle / BOverdrive / Swordmaster:Press Circle / B immediately after DriveDance Macabre / Swordmaster:Lock on + Forward + Circle / B x10 (Can be stopped at Million Stab and it can be mashed for additional hits)
>>723960501>5'6Yakumo is literally a foot shorter than Ryu and half his body mass.
>>723965235gilgameshGilgamesh Combo A:Triangle / Y - Triangle / Y - Triangle / Y - Triangle / YGilgamesh Combo B:Triangle / Y - Triangle / Y - Slight Pause - Triangle / Y - Triangle / YDraw:Lock On + Back + Triangle / YStraight:Lock on + Back + Triangle / Y (Hold, can be charged up two more levels)Kick 13:Lock On + Forward + Triangle (Activate Devil Trigger for additional hits that end with Vergil's Rising Sun attack from Devil May Cry 3)Flush:Jump (Transforms jumps into kicks that deal damage)Shock / Swordmaster:Circle / B (Can be charged up two more levels)Shocking / Swordmaster:Circle / B (In mid air, cannot be charged)Beast Uppercut / Swordmaster:Lock On + Forward + Circle / B (Can be charged up two more levels)Rising Dragon / Swordmaster:Lock On + Forward + Circle / B (Hold untill Gilgamesh successfully charges once)Divine Dragon / Swordmaster:Lock On + Forward + Circle / B (Hold untill Gilgamesh successfully charges Twice)Real Impact / Swordmaster:Lock On + Back + Circle / BLucifer Lucifer Combo A: Triangle / Y - Triangle / Y - Triangle / Y - Triangle / Y... (This is the only combo/string in the game that does not end. Press the attack button as many times as you desire)[/i]Lucifer Combo B:Triangle / Y - Slight Pause - Triangle / Y (Mash until Dante places 6 pins in front of him)Lucifer Combo C:Triangle / Y - Slight Pause - Triangle / Y (Mash till Dante places the final pin, the last one will be placed at an angle and will cause a knockback)Lucifer Combo D:Triangle / Y - Triangle / Y - Slight Pause - Triangle / YLucifer Combo E:Triangle / Y - Triangle / YTriangle / Y - Triangle / Y - Slight Pause - Triangle / Y (Mash untill Dante uses his final pin)Ecstacy:Lock On + Back + Triangle / Y
>>723965235>lots of moves = complete charactermothafucka they couldnt even finish unique stages for him and theyre all over the art book
>>723963786>hidden mechanicsCalling it hidden dispoves your own point of "common sense" It's not hidden, the game just forgets to tell you about it. But literally tells you about On Landing UTs, which are an actual genuine hidden mechanic of the old games.
>>723965167Oh you're right I'm full of shit. I actually have played Nier Automata but that's actually the only one I've played. For the general answer it's cause I was never an action game guy growing up(hence why I suck at precise inputs) and my genuine first experience playing a proper combo heavy action game like this was DMC5 in my mid 20s.
>>723965317(cont. on lucifer)Pin Up:Lock On + Forward + Triangle / Y (Preform 3 times in a row to place the maximum amount of pins on the field, 15)Discipline / Swordmaster:Lock On + Circle / B (Repositions all pins currently on the field around Dante's body)Climax / Swordmaster:Lock On + Back + Circle / B (Repositions all pins currently on the field around Dante's body to create a protective barrier)Bondage / Swordmaster:Lock On + Forward + Circle / B (Repositions all pins currently on the field around the enemy you've locked on to.Ebony and IvoryShoot:Square / XCharged ShotSquare / X (Hold untill Dante's forearms glow red, effect last for 3 seconds)Twosometime / GunslingerCircle / B (Pressing the Style button once will only fire 4 bullets and mashing will continuously fire, use the left analog stick to change the direction Dante is firing)Honeycomb Fire / GunslingerCircle / B (Mash untill dante flips Ebony and Ivory around. Ebony and Ivory will fire much faster in Honeycomb fire. You cannot control the direction in which Dante fires)Rainstorm / GunslingerCircle / B (Mid air, tap once for a few shots, hold down to continuously fire.CoyoteShoot:Square / XCharged ShotSquare / X (Hold untill Dante's forearms glow red, effect last for 3 seconds)Fireworks / GunslingerCircle / BFireworks Air/ GunslingerCircle / B (Mid Air)Backslide / GunslingerLock On + Back + Circle / BGun Stinger / GunslingerLock On + Forward + Circle / B
What's the point of needing to charge blood attacks to get off insta kills when you can just jump and attack?
Kek, muh inertia got triggered.
>>723965425PandoraPF013 EpidemicSquare / X (Can be aimed either up or down using the left analog stick)PF124 HatredSquare / X (Rotate the left analog stick in a full 360 motion, only a 180 in Devil Trigger)PF398 RevengeSquare / X (Rotate the left analog stick in full 360 motion twice, only a 360 in Devil TriggerPF262 JealousySquare / X (Mid air)PF594 Argument / GunslingerCircle / B (Mid air, uses up the meter you've built up even when not firing. Press Square / X to fire 1 missile, and Circle / B to fire multiple.PF422 GriefLock On + Back + Circle / B (Tap style to throw for a short period of time, hold the style button to increase the attacks duration)PF666 OmenLock On + Forward + Circle / B (Omen damage output is determined by how much meter you've built up in your Disaster Gauge)YamatoYamato Combo S- Circle / B, Circle / B, Circle / B (If you allow Dante to resheath the Katana back into it's scabbard, you will be rewarded with a full D.T Rune, and some style points)Slash Dimension FLock On + Forward + Circle / BSlash Dimension CLock On + Back + Circle / BAerial Rave VCircle / B, Circle / BTricksterDashPoint the left analog stick in any direction and press Circle / B (Keeping the Left Stick in a neutral position will Dash Dante Forwards. Dashing while in Devil Trigger allows for consecutive dashes.)Sky StarCircle / B (Mid air, Aerial version of the ground dash. While in Devil Trigger, you are allowed two consecutive Sky Stars)MustangCircle / B (press and hold, must be in direction of enemy)FlipperCircle / B (Press the style button when you are hit to execute an air recorvery)Air TrickLock On + Forward + Circle / B (Teleport, You are allowed one on the ground, and one in the air. That rule changes to one on the ground, two in the air when In Devil Trigger)
I'm genuinely surprised at how tight and efficient NG4's movesets are given how obnoxously bloated they've made the combat options in every single other game they've done in the past decade. Did they finally realize that just slapping in more moves without thought or consideration doesn't just make the combat better?
good job man you mindbroke this dmc cuck, look at him going insane
>>723965529Try flying swallow spamming and ID spamming on MN and report back when the soldier blocks you in midair then severs 3/4th of your health before you can hold block.
As much as I hate saying the word it's unironically a cult classic hit.
>>723965649>assblast him>never reply to his spergouts
>>723965597Different direction and goals anons. Kamiya style games are all about choregraphy in a over the top setting. Here, its about the feeling of hostility in a dark and gritty story.
>>723965653No I mean in berserk mode, jump and attack is a fast instakill as opposed to needing to charge it while grounded
>>723965820Oh yeah Yakumo's A+Y is insanely broken on the dual swords.
>>723965556BlockCircle / B (Fighting game styled block. You will still receive damage for blocking)Air BlockCircle / B (Mid Air, Fighting game styled block. You will still receive damage for blocking)Royal BlockCircle / B (Perfectly timed block, you will receive no damage by using Royal Block)Air Royal BlockLock On + Forward + Circle / B (Mid Air, Preform just before you're hit by an enemy)ReleaseLock On + Forward + Circle / BAir ReleaseLock On + Forward + Circle / B (Mid Air)Royal ReleaseLock On + Forward + Circle / B (Preform just before you're hit by an enemy)Air Royal ReleaseLock On + Forward + Circle / B (Mid Air, Preform just before you're hit by an enemy)DreadnaughtLock On + Back + Circle / B (The Dreadnaught cannot be hit/stunned. The amount of time you spend in Dreadnaught form is dependent on the amount of meter you've built up from blocking. Using Royal Release while in Dreadnaught form will use all of your Rage Meter.)any retard, who says DMC4 Dante is an incomplete character when he was a vast improvement on DMC3 Dante doesn't play CAGs at all.Defending Ryu being gimped and his "complete set" being sold as DLC is a fucking retard.And I will not suck off a new game in NG just because it is a new game when it is incomplete everyone of you faggots can go fuck yourself>inb4 bad faith argument trying real hard to fellate NG4 just because it is newDMC4 was an incomplete game and had more care about the thing that actually matter in the genre
I didn't understand why they added the Tyran help until I got to Kagachi into Achilles
>>723962673the post that saved /v/
>>723965936>CAGstheyre hack n slash, redditor.
I'm getting mixed signals about this game. It's either: "look at how they massacre my boy" or "normies getting filtered so it remains our secret club game for life".
>>723966119The latter. Most people kvetching haven't played any of the games they shitpost about
>>723966119It's a fun game and most of the hate comes from the fact that they tried to push a new zoomer main character over the beloved old one. Basically an MGS2 situation
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sbbBf2u82XwWhat a failure of gamedesign NG 4 is. NG 2 vets are breezing through fresh MN already.
NG4 has thrown Silksong out of the throne for 2025 for me and it's not even close. Was NOT expecting this.
>>723966119the game is MGR2 but where normal is hardmode, anon. that is why normalfags are getting filtered but genre enthusiast don't like it that much
>>723966119It's literally just one or a few seething schizos that really hate how Ryu isn't the full main character again.
I was expecting at least 70k players at most but looking at the abysmal marketing, I could only blame Platinum. Rising sold like 800k copies at most in its initial year.
>>723966385>Basically an MGS2 situationOnly retards parrot this, Raiden's situation was completely different
>>723966119It's the best action game released in a long time, and it's a great ninja gaiden game.
>>723966624>Raiden's situation was completely differentNo it wasn't lol. Nobody gave a fucking shit about some meta social commentary back then, they just wanted to play as cool guy Snake. In fact MGS2's situation was arguably worse because the marketing straight up lied with Raiden being hidden from the game
>>723966619>70k players>No denuvo>Free gamepass>No marketingRetard alert
>>723966624It was not that different desu. It's the same 'old good new bad' mentality that caused backlash for Raiden, Nero and now Yakumo. People don't want to let go of their attachments.
>>723966385Raiden and Nero (since he always gets brought up), are complete different situations. These two weren't presented to the level of OC Donut steel Yakumo has.
>>723966806TN have done it before
>>723961471he unironically made me buy the gameyeah he made fun of the tutorial, but he also made it seem like the actual gameplay was fun
>>723966453I dunno, I am at 14 minute and he just died. Plus half of the time, he is on the defensive lel.
>>723966917(me)Actually scratch that, he just made of montage of all of his deaths lmao. It ain't a breeze.>That samurai leaping and instantly killing YakoomerKek
>>723966619>Rising sold like 800k copies at most in its initial yearWhich definitely isn't because it has METAL GEAR on the front of the box, retard-kun.
>>723966891I'm not even sure how Wo Dong hit those numbers especially at launch it was completely broken with negative refuse and your action game players like LtL struggled to shill the game.
>>723967076Negative reviews****
Unlike GoY, this is having more concentrated discussion despite the few shitposters who circle around. GoY had too many and nobody genuinely liked it and said "cool graphics" and moved on. I guess NG4 is the only good ninja game here that did decent this year.
>sharty CP spammer>sharty nikado/scat spammer>NG2 schizo>nioh schizo >moeblob (no avatar)>discrod/sharty falseflaggers>electric underground eceleb shitters In general outside of those schizos normal NG enjoyers were obnoxious in every fucking action and action rpg threads. Is this karma? NG4 threads are unreadable after all. Really sad state for such good series.
>>723967051>>723966453DAT UT BLOCK AT ~17:40 TOO
>>723966758>>723966827>It wasn't that differentIn MGS2 Snake was billed as the only playable character in any and all marketing for the game only to swap to Raiden after an hour of play. Yakumo has been billed as the main character for NG4 from the very beginning. If you're going to boil it down to just "old good, new bad" like retards at least have the decency to use Nero as an example instead
>>723967235GoY's biggest issue is that it's literally just the exact same game again with nothing new to make it interesting so even the people like it and praise it don't actually care about it as much as they say they do.
>>723966863>Raiden and Nero (since he always gets brought up), are complete different situations. These two weren't presented to the level of OC Donut steel Yakumo has.They literally aren't, they were widely disliked too. Nero only slightly less because Dante was still a big part of the game. Denying that Raiden was absolutely despised is pure revisionism by MGR fans, people didn't start liking Raiden until MGS4. Everyone bitched about Raiden and his gay relationship problems with Rose, people just wanted to play as Snake, which is why Substance added Snake Tales, and MGS3 constantly clowns on Raiden whenever he's referenced
>>723967256>>sharty CP spammerworse, he's the sekiro anon who claims ng4 copied sekirohe got banned last night i think but the shit he posted was foul, some of the worst ive seen since 2010s /b/ pre election
>>723967256Their discord moved to Pokemon but that's just another piece of shit in a sea of diarrhea that is Pokemon discussion. The shartyniggers belong there since it has been a shit series for too long.
>>723967076it was chinese monster hunter. TK should ahve just resurrected Toukiden or Dynasty Warriors Striker Force
>>723966758>marketing straight up lied with Raiden being hidden from the gameKino, more developers should do it
>>723967440they were disliked but no the extend Yakumo has been. because Snake and Dante had a far bigger presence on these games that Ryu has in NG4I can't blame Ryufags. we got two new NG games and Ryu is sidelined on both. He is not even playable on Ragebound
>>723967256I blame the nigger who tried to tie this with souls. I don't want to do anything with that community and whoever keeps bringing them up and shitposting on their threads is to blame as to why we have more shitposting than discussion. Kicking the hornet's nest is retarded.
>>723962673I thought I would be the only one, when I played chapter 18 and the NG3 theme played, i first didn't realize as I was killing everything on that bridge. Then I heard the horns from the theme and I legit put down the controller and teared up. One because it made me feel something I haven't felt in a long time, and two because I realized I'm not the jaded one, modern games are just shit and don't make me feel this way.
>retards conflate the shit story and Yakumo's poor characterisation with his gameplay being bad>his gameplay is great (ryu better with gleam tho)
>>723967765Snake had even less playtime in MGS2 than Ryu in NG4, he's literally just playable for the opening of the game and then never again, and if you pick you haven't played MGS1 at the start the game straight up just skips the opening. At least when you finally get to play Ryu in NG4 it feels awesome, where as you just feel cheated with MGS2
>>723968132Raiden plays much closer to Snake so it's less of a problem.
Isn't the hate for new MC a western thing? They regularly switch protagonists over there.
>>723949281Yeah dude. Normal is the normal difficulty. Obviously higher difficulties are designed for postgame.
>>723966458Silksong has a more balanced difficulty curve
>>723949018nah. dont like that guy
>>723967537Ya know I just checked and realized Asia went all in on Wo Schlong. Forgot how hard the bugs carry chinese focused games.
>>723966458To be fair I also hated Silksong for being boring and more of the same shit but lesbianslop. NG4 is far more engaging and less derivative from the other slop that released this year.
Ryu does so much more damage compared to Yakumo
I swear Ryu does more damage with the Dragon Sword than Yakumo does with the Dark Dragon Sword. Can anyone confirm?
>>723951206watta glitch
>>723968243 No it's a exclusively a newfag thing, no matter the hemisphere.
>>723968502>>723968547Yes, it's called balancing because Ryu has no bloodraven skills. Ryu will generally delimb enemies in 3 hits less.
>>723967256To be fair, NG threads always had those schizos. It just got much, much worse now that NG4 is out. But yeah, those discord freaks are out of control. You can hardly discuss any new game without them coming to shit the place up.
>>723968547As he should, he did use the dragon sword to literally cut that shit into pieces one time
To the one's that already beat the game, what would you like to see in the story? I want some colorful environments this time, and the missions from 3RE with classic ng bosses.
>>723968840I meant dlc FUCK
>>723948914how gud or bad does it run? worth pirating?
>>723948914nah you're just like every other fanboy with a strong emotional attachment to a product. you can enjoy the game without obsessing over who the person is who doesn't like your game, fag
oh shit ng+ charms change how your weapon works when you do their missions
>>723968547Yes. Ryu is a STR chad vs Yakomo being a DEX sissy.
>>7239691075700x3d coupled with 3080ti, I'm getting 100+ fps at 1440p. It runs way better than ue5 games for me.
>>723954031You can turn that off if you dislike it. The actually bad and forced thing is the camera recenter function being tied to lock on.
>>723969137How do I get the true dragon sword for Ryu anyway? It was there in promo material with the purple glow, but it doesn't have it anymore?
>>723968547True Dragon Sword > Dark Dragon Sword. See gif.
>>723969353You hold RT and chain your meter until you can awaken it. It's OP.
>>723954787>playable on all of them after you complete the game onceThank god that fixed the biggest gripe I had with DMC5, sure you could use mods to play 95% of the game as him but he’s so fun you hardly want to play V ever again
I found the otherworldy invaders mission. It's in chapter 2 where that execute DDU officers subquest with a bunch of flying enemies is.There's a wind area and since you now have the glider you can go up on it
To bad DDS doesn't have its moveset from NG.
>>723949401this
>>723969504Yakumo is purposely imitating Ryu's moves because he is the supreme ninja in his mind, he also doesn't have the sword anymore after the story ends canonically
>>723969769Maybe. But it would have been nice to have the heavy sword moveset when in bloodraven form.
Ryu hsa a futuristic sheathe that slides backwards for his sword lmaoThey finally solved the problem
>>723969965It's the coolest thing i have ever seen, it also supposedly supresses the true dragon swords powers when it's sheathed
Found my one issue with this game: the faggot cameraman>>723968358Not my problem.
>>723969498So it's NG+ only? That's cool.
MN has hands so far..
damn yakumo got his ass kicked by ryu in ch 7he fucking flying swallowed me and got guard broken
What is that Encounter? Only chapter with it
>>723955190In NGII the dragon sword is not the best weapon. In fact its not even in the top 3. The scythe and talons alone are without a doubt better weapons than the dragon sword. Its UT can actually miss a lot in the game which is not a good thing. Besides the scythe the tonfa actually have the strongest UT in the game and its a very long destructive one. I would say at least the tonfa, scythe and talons are better than the dragon sword. The lunar is probably better to since its spinning UT is very good on the game.Tier wise dragon sword is actually on the lower end. You just need to use the other weapons enough and see videos to get what I mean. As for NG3 I don't know about that game. Perhaps they improved it but I don't know. If you are talking NGB well other weapons were just about as good as it. The thing about the dragon sword is its moveset is without a doubt fun and it has the izuna drop. However the izuna drop is also a move with other weapons.
>>723960167Oh shit this game has a three-section staff? Might have to play just for that.
>>723970620Disable camera shake and stuff in settings.
>>723971304The thief guy you do missions to kill, after the kettle fiend if you follow the mountain up and look down to the right, you can hop into the water on your surfboard on NG+
>>723968861That does look pretty cool. Why are there so few .webms being posted in this thread? I think it's the best way to drown out the baitniggers
>>723971304What is untouchable? Beat the chapter without getting hit a single time?
>>723971642Yep.
>>723960808Shows how young the board has gotten. Many of them probably unironically think that Dark Souls also invented the difficult game.
>>723971613>4mb file limit>even my 10 second clips are over 30mbit sucks
>>723949018>try wanted dead after all the shilling cause of this faggot>its fucking horrendous, low effort slop and complete dogshitThis stupid faggot is a total pseud who can’t comprehend anything outside of his arcade game pov
>>723971507nah it's just a single move from a weapon that has a bunch of ninja weapon
>>723951935Capcom can buy reviews you know
>>723960808I think his neutral launcher is back forward now isn't it?
>>723971992Both of his back forwards are really long strings so his fastest launcher is stlil X > Y or gleaming Y.
>no underworld dropFuck...
>>723970620wonky camera doesn't bother me as much as the visual vomit that is on the edges of the screen when you're low on hp. mod to disable that WHEN
>>723972138>gleaming YAh that works, as long as there's an alternative I don't mind strings changing.
>>723971613I made a couple but I'd rather focus on playing the game than stopping my first playthrough to record videos. Give it more time.
is mommyji or kasumi in this game?
>>723962673Still not buying this full price marketer. I will wait for a price drop and once they package the DLC which should have been in the main game to begin with. Ryu only having one weapon? AGAIN!? You have got to be fucking kidding me.
11 chapters in and I still have no idea how to deal with the soldiers with the 2 glaives
Possible to cancel the gleaming Y before Ryu teleports up?
>>723972905throw them off the map or 360 bloodraven spin x or y until delimb and then OT
>>723971613 Give it some time. Still getting familiar with the game and most of my recordings is just me getting owned.
>>723971613>Why are there so few .webms being posted in this thread?I was going to make webms, and I will, but the game is way harder than I expected so I'm still not good enough for any webms of my current gameplay to be cool.
>>723972989Nah, annoying as fuck. Best you can do is just cancel into GT as he teleports. His gleam attacks are too canned and GT is the only way to cancel out so far.
>>723973156I saw a webm in a previous thread of it being cancelled
>>723971613I was recording some 10 second clips but honestly I am not good enough at this game to show off.
>>723973239Show
>>723973156>he doesnt know about the jump cancel Whenever you do an airborne string while locked on to a single enemy, hit wind run backwards so Down + A, then immediately hit Forward+Y, will take a few tries but you can cancel into everything.
>>723962673Insanely, impossibly based action enjoyer
>>723966119Yellow paint should tell you a lot about the thinking that went into this game
>>723973310It's not actually a jump cancel, I was mistaken on that, just didn't feel like making another webm. All you actually need to do is to input the swallow as a single motion, forward plus Y, during the string. Alternatively, you can negative edge into it, so like XYXXY Forward if you input it quickly so you press Y a fair bit before it comes out.The wind path part is redundant. Though I'm sure it can be useful for other stuff, like say repositioning and hitting a flying nigga trying to get you mid air combo.
>>723972872Just pirate it, retard. The game already flopped.
>>723971561That's a boss right? Not something I can easily miss
>>723973982you can easily miss it if you dont find the grapple point to use the surfboard and havent done his previous encounters in the other levelsbut yes hes a boss, he fights like phantom yakumo
>>723962673terrible baitplay some fighting games shitter
>>723962673flawless taste. ng4 and ac6 have been an absolute joy.
>>723969407Chad Ryu
