Sexiest Tales character
>>723960584Damn look at how flat she is
true
Tales of hebephilia
>>723960508I got filtered by the stupid wolf in the forest q_q
For me it is and always will beI used to fantasize about going into the Vesperia universe and marrying her even though I was a 12 year old
>>723962815Sex with Judith.
>>723962815Shame her interactions with Yuri stop abruptly, should've been his actual romantic interest
>>723960508>its been 17 years since her game releasednow Im too old for her.
>>723962815Sex with Estelle.
>>723965092You are never too old
For me, it's...
>>723965183I wish that were true but Im already 35 and therefore as old as raven.
>>723961832
>>723967021The key is to just forget your birthday and not look at calendars.I have no idea how old I am anymore.
i'm more into ninja girls
>>723969459Sex with Sheena.
>>723960508I want this side view with her dress flowing forward a little to give a peek of the tiniest hint of hebe pubes
>>723962815Yuri and Judith fucked
>>723969459Sex with Sheena.>>723969535STOP! STEALING! MY! THING!
>>723960508>>723961013>>723965638>>723969279Not so fast chud...
>>723969593like thisis this too much to ask
>>723969620Judy exclusively fucks dragons
>>723960508>Sheena and Judy already postedThread complete
>>723960508Why do all the children in this series proposition the main character all the time?
>>723960508>love tales series>look up 34>lacks the amount of porn compared to other franchises>the best artist is a a futafagwhat gives? it has the girls and guys.
I like Magilou
>>723971401basedthe only two girls that matter
>>723973502PITS
>>723970820>look up the artist>pubes everywhereI'll be honest with you, my dick exploded
>>723965638>>723969837Dangerously based.
>>723969837this bitch is insufferable
>>723960508>>723961013>>723969279her personality makes me hard
>>723960508>Sexiest Tales characterYou literally have a sexo elf in this game, get the fuck outta here
>>723977938Everything in moderation, but there is something divine about pubes from a side view. The fact the crotch is not visible, but the pubes turns it lewd>pubic_hair rating:q from_side
>>723971168And Yuri. And Raven. And Karol. And everyone in the party.She's a SLUT.
>>723960508canonically stinky. But that trash clown from Graces is probably canon stinkier.
>>723960508That's not Tear
>>723960508I'm literally in love with ArcheAlso the PSX version of Phantasia was shockingly good.
>>723981764(but not flynn tho, flynn's a fag)
>>723960508For me it's Nan
I need to finish bersia
>>723982753>fag>rails Sodia's asshole every night
>>723982292Crazy that Mystearica only reached the rank of Locrian Sergeant when her brother Vandestelca Musto Fende was able to reach Dorian General.I love Abyss namesAlso I legit prefer Natalia Luzu Kimlasca Lanvaldear to Mystearica
>>723981764and this is why I prefer Sheenaunicorn scene confirms her a virgin
>>723983848not for long
>>723981203That's the point. The little brat is BEGGING for correctionOn the other hand, you could also let her take the lead. She would tell you that you're a worthless piece of garbage that should ack himself all while stepping on your dick barefoot
for me it's my best friend's big sister
>>723981764eh, I don't see her with Karol, desu. the only shota eater in Tales imo is Rondoline.
>>723984924based
>>723982763Damn. I should really play this game.
>>723984924Now here is a man with enlightened taste.
Genuinely what is the best Tales of game?
>>723983312For me, it's Gailardia Galan Gardios
>>723985925Either Vesperia, Graces f, Hearts R, or Xillia 2. Eternia and Destiny R are also acceptable if you're a 2DfagStay away feom Zesteria, Tempest, and AriseRest are fine, Phantasia and Symphonia have nostalgia value and soul carrying it
>>7239859252D is Eternia 3D is Abyss
>>723985925Depends on what you're looking for. Arise has the best widespread appeal. Vesperia is the best of the Team Symphonia titles. Destiny has the best sidescroller combat. Xillia 2 has the best 3D combat.
jp should start hiring cn devs to make their game
>>723985925Symphonia for nostalgia and basic blueprint of what a Tales game isAbyss for story Vesperia for breadth of content Xillia 2 for combat
>>723985925Overall? Vesperia, probably, though I'm quite a big fan of Xillia 1 myself.
>>723986132>xillia 2Im sorry but i remember that game lack end game content. not to extent as fucking zestiria but up there.
>>723982763Based. I wish she had more art.
>>723983848We'll se about that...
>>723983848>female ninja>not a whoredoesnt add up
>>723982763lol
>>723982763Surprised this is still up with Raven's schlong uncensored
>>723985925arise is the only one worth playing, don't listen to the haters.
Kisara and her back is the only good thing about arise
>>723985925Berseria
what's with all the Rita and Repede stuff
Where my Presea bros at?
>>723960508Judith mogs her for sexybut my heart is for Estelle
>>723993626ADVERTISER-SAMA GET DOWN!
>>723982763>censor tits>show Estelle and Rita's pussies
>>723994140I'm sorry. I wasnt wearing my glasses. :'c
>>723960508https://files.catbox.moe/m3pyh8.png
>>723993452isn't it past your bed time Genis?
>>723993626I've jerked off to this a lot before, didn't even know it was a tales character.
>>723994140And Raven's cock kek
>>723996570sure but I don't go looking at Raven's dickI do notice Estelle's pussy.
>>723996663She's an S+ tier waifu. She's the only one who doesn't abandon Luke in his lowest moment.
>>723985925Not Arise or Legendia because of no co-op
>>723996663throatfuck goddess.....
>>723965010https://www.youtube.com/shorts/4cDy0YsaYWU
>>723994140based
>>724006715would be more based with Judy, Gauche and Droite pussies too.
>>723981680You son of a bitch... My dick hurts...
>>724002550You mean paizuri
>>723981203Perfect for hate fuck.
Did anyone ever feel like Nan was supposed to be a late game party member?>starts to doubt the Hunting Fangs actions>looks out for Karol>goes against the Hunting Fangs during the last arc of the game when they were getting their asses beat by the berserk monster thing because she starts to realize that its not really a monster and that something else is influencing it>calls them out afterwards but they tell her to just watch her mouth and monsters are all emotionless things that need to be killed before they walk off>had all the reasons and set up to split up from them but didn't>very unique weapon type>going to the shop equip menus with Flynn in the party shows a perfect empty space for one last character.
>>724013991she probably waswould have been cool to get.better than Patty for sure.I was glad Flynn got added but Patty joining seemed so random.
>>724009087>not both at once
>>724015681I didn't have a problem with Patty compared to other child characters in Tales, or other games. Its a fact that she was shoehorned in and really wasn't properly integrated into the writing, that i wont deny. I dunno if they were rushed into making an expansion with how successful the original game was, but they really should've taken their time with writing her in. It also would've been cool to see how she looked like as Aifred, they definitely could've added it to her MA roulette wheel after beating the bonus dungeon.
>>724016593eh, I didn't like Patty across the board, I dislike loli/child characters, Rita is about as "loli" as I can handle with her being a hebethe way she was shoehorned in just made it worsehaving her trying to be Yuri's love interest made it even worse.like Yuri never has an official love interest which kinda leads to people shipping him with either Estelle (love) or Judy (lust) which is all good.But this shoehorned in brat with LOL Random moveset thirsting after him every time she's in the script was just annoying.
>>724017579She's just begging for correction.
>>724017706I mean it's kinda comic relief because of how Yuri deals with her constant hitting on him he just kinda dismisses her and treats her as a kidbut still annoying to have a thirsty loli.
>>724017579Hebes are better in Tales anyway
>>724016593My issue with Patty is that I played pre-DE Vesperia so much I can tell exactly where she was added and how most of the time she's just dropped in the middle of a conversation without any other character reacting to her just to make it seem like she's more involved and "there all along" than she actually was. In fact you can tell that's the case in a lot of scenes where she's present but English Yuri is voiced by Troy Baker all the way through, be it cutscene or skit.
>>724018297>Rita>Hebe
>>724017579Her personality makes sense when you picture her as a carefree confident pirate captain woman before the incident that caused her to de-age. Think like Luffy, who just does not give a shit about what he says and just does what he feels like. What i cant stand about must child characters is when they feel the need to act like an adult but never actually act like one when it matters, or completely deviate the party from their goal, or just cause really stupid avoidable accidents that sidetracks the whole story.Take Anise from ToA, she's incredibly annoying, constantly mentions that shes totally an adult, acts all cutesy about being a gold digger, and even backstabs the party. Also never shuts the fuck up about Ion. She never actually acts like an adult and grows up. And im supposed to care when she fights with her little ex-bestfriend while they fight each other with oversized plush toys? Nah, im good.Patty did get a moment of growing up when she had to put a bullet between Seifer's eyes to put him out of his misery, her right hand pirate mate. But again, the writing just wasn't in her favor and the game still continues like normal without it mattering. Karol and his growing up moment is done much better because he was there since the start.
>>724018591Don't care. I'd fuck both of them.
>>724007326bodypaint, pantyhose and bodysuits are also a nice combination
>>724018785I just like discussing Vesperia... It was pretty much the only game i owned on the 360.
>>723985925Most are the same level, honestly. The only ones that are bad are Legendia, Tempest, Dawn of the New World, Zestiria and Arise.
damn smelly girl..... bath correction is needed.....
>>724018591>she's incredibly annoyingSkill issue>constantly mentions that shes totally an adult'cause she's desperate to marry into money to save her parents>acts all cutesy about being a gold diggerThat's part of the fun in the cutsceneshttps://youtu.be/LdpUxe3ZPgA?t=1479>and even backstabs the partySee the parents part>Also never shuts the fuck up about IonShe wants his Fon Master cock>She never actually acts like an adult and grows upShe takes responsability for Ion's death, takes care of Florian and resolves to reform the Order of Lorelei in the former's name>And im supposed to care when she fights with her little ex-bestfriend while they fight each other with oversized plush toys?It's kino
>>724018464Hebes are 9-15
>>724017579>leads to people shipping him with either Estelle (love) or Judy (lust)yet most people end up shipping him with Flynn instead, lmao
>>724018297yeahI can dig the Tales hebes a bitEdna and Rita mainlyit's not really my preference but, I like them as party members at least and they don't annoy me like true lolis do.
>>724020136You're just horny. The parent part could have been completely avoided had she just TALKED. But nope, the whole party has to drop everything to go deal with her broke ass family getting held as blackmail. She needs to go get a fucking job, or at least get paid for body guarding Ion, even though she was clearly bad at it. She would be unbearable to deal with and deserved five fingers across the face at several points by the entire party, lined up.
>>724018361god the random injection of the other VA was really a letdown in DE, I mean yeah I can just go JP audio but I think Yuri was one of Troy Baker's best characters and is the reason why I even liked him as a VA.
>>724020245Fujos (thankfully) aren't "most people", anon.
>>724020389>You're just hornyNah I don't much care for lolis>The parent part could have been completely avoided had she just TALKEDHow so? She's 13 and had been a spy from the get go, from the moment she had known the party for a week. Why owe them allegiance? By the end there it was just her retarded kid brain telling her it was too late to back down and that Mohs would have her retard parents murdered the second she spilled the beans>She needs to go get a fucking job, or at least get paid for body guarding IonShe presumably did, you're told repeteadly her parents waste all that money anyway either being retards, giving it back to the Church because they're believers, or just giving it to the power even when they themselves don't have enough to live>She would be unbearable to deal with and deserved five fingers across the faceShe's a reflection of Akzeriuth Luke at that narrative point
>>724020490>all the new lines added to the dub are weirdly quiet compared to other audioThe sound guy needs to get fired. Although i guess it kinda helped hide the some of the voice differences... But couldnt they also just adjust his voice to make it sound more similar to Troy's? Whatever.
>>723960508*smelliest
>>723960508But anon, Rita is stinky.
>>724020763Pascal would out smell her easily.
>>724019401I'm just not attracted to itI can feel some minor attraction to Edna and Rita but just a little.but not Patty at all.
>>723960508The original lesbian tsundere
>>723962815This but I was 32 when I first played the game.
>>723960508>Uncle got me an Xbox 360 for my 13th birthday>Ended up getting Vesperia at some point later in like 2009 because I thought the box art looked cool>Literally my first exposure to a JRPG ever>End up finding Rita to be very cute over the course of the game>This sticks with me as a formative moment in my childhood>16 years later and I'm still attracted to underaged fictional charactersWhat can you do?
>>724021160God she had the best outfits in the game. I was completely fucking enamored by the fancy night out dress outfit.Like, LOOK AT THIS SHIT.You cant tell me you didn't pop a goddamn boner so hard that it hit the controller in your hand it stuck it to the ceiling GODDAMN
>>724020245well I'm not counting bromanceYuri and Flynn bromance is without question, they're best friends and rivals, their rivalry solo fight is one of the highlights of the game.But they're not yaoi.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vXBrmxeYlqk
>>724020169more like 13-15, Ephebes 16-17, Adults 18-24, Hags 25+
>>724021460>not pic relatedngmi
>>724021460>The side quest where Estelle and Judith dress up in skimpy outfits to distract a guardI never recovered. That was perhaps one of the key factors to sending me down this path I walk.
>>724020717absolutely he should have been fired, it was really jarring.It'd have been better to do a total recast and just make sure it was mixed right.But I'm sure the decision was made because "we have Troy Baker on this before he blew up, we need to keep that, but we can't afford him now"
>>724021661Estelle had the best outfit from that
>>724021661Best scene ever. Although the mitten hands well alittle stupid.
>>724021661What's that, a tongue in check fanservice cutscene that makes fun of the situation while highlighting how your heroines are, in fact, pretty hot? Modern games could never.
>>724021854me on the left
>>724021460i picked Karol for the luls
>>724022018>>724021160>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tS0Ke3adwIAOne of the best skits in the series.
>>724021854even though Judy's normally hotter her outfit was kinda wack and in that scenario Estelle would be the most successful at seducing me but I have a thing for short hair and green eyes so Estelle kind of cheats.
>>723960508Nope
>>724022496>we have Judith at homeYou know what, why not both?
Why was Vesperia so shit, guys? I believed you when you told me it was the best Tales games, but I finished act 1 and just had to drop it. The story goes nowhere, the characters most if the time are bland. Yuri is likable but that's it. Karol was annoying, Estelle was boring, the elf girl was alright, Rita was shit, but she made me hard and that's pretty much it. I had a much better time with Tales of the Abyss and OG Tales of Innocence.
>>724022496Who?
>>724022391Surprised we still don't know the name of Judith's VA all these years later. I remember for a looong while there Tear's actress was a mystery too but they ended up finding her out.
>>724022569Story is by far Vesperia's weakest aspect.Its cast, combat, and weapon skill system were its highlights.
>>724022678Wait, you for real?
>>723962815I never understood why they kept going for that ugly art style with no shading from the left side, instead of something like the right. It would make sense if it was for the purpose of animation, but they're still portraits. it just comes off as incredibly cheap.
>>724022821Judith calling out Estelle for dragging the party around was a pretty good story moment. Too bad it didn't really change anything
>>724022821>Story is by far Vesperia's weakest aspectAll these years later and I can't believe how they fumbled Sodia's bullshit so badly.
>>724023018Indeed. It's a 17yo mystery.
>>724023367well that's the thing. the story seemed like it was constantly searching for a reason for the group to stay together traveling, until they reached the 3rd act and actually had a coherent goal. Act 2 was definitely the worst for it.the underwritten thing is... Yuri just wanted to be with Estelle and would make any excuse to continue being with her and she was basically the same way.That's kinda why I prefer the Yuri/Estelle ship, because it feels more consistent with the motivations of the characters.Yuri with Judy was just they're a lot alike and there's obvious attraction. But that's the whole of it, attraction. Judy ended up enjoying teasing Raven and Karol more because they were easily baited where Yuri wasn't.
>>724022672Rondoline Effenberg, from one of the "Tales of the World" games, never released here, which is unfortunate because she has my favorite design by far.
>>724023970wait.. I remembered a different VA for Estelle in ENDanielle Judovits or something like that
Xillia 1 in a week.
>>723985925Abyss, and its not even close.
>>724024494It's unfortunate because it has the good version of Tales of Phantasia.
I look like this, I sound like this, dress like this and smell like this.
>>723996663best tales girl. also the only one who gets doujins bless valssu
Reminder Repede ranked the girls based on smell.Didn't like Estelle much because she probably uses perfume, she's a clean pristine princess.Likes Judith because she's naturally sweaty.Loves Rita and constantly sniffing her because she's a stinky fucking bitch.
>>724024747Are you me?
>>724024527Nope, Sam Riegel's sister voiced Estelle all the way back then too. The confusing part is that this interview does pop up for Danielle Judovits regarding Vesperia:https://www.rpgsite.net/interview/2873-danielle-judovits-interviewBut if you read it there's something weird with it. While Eden Riegel is confirmed to be Estelle's VA in multiple places (green tick means 100% confirmed be it via official credits or the actor's personal resume), Judovits seems to have this one interview *and* she mentions the recording process took, quote "From start to finish, I'd say somewhere between 3 and 4 hours".Four hours, to record the entirety of the dialogue for the main heroine of an 80 hour JRPG? Not buying it. Either she didn't know who "Estelle" was and assumed it was a random gig she did years prior or she did voice someone in Vesperia but it was a background NPC and got confused.I mean, listen to this. It's 100% Estelle:https://youtu.be/dENsoLSddaI
>>724024848I could do with more lovey dovey doujins and less rape/mind control ones
>>724024747>MANLY MUSK!
>>724025426oh yeah, I believe you just I'd remembered reading Danielle Judovits as her sometime a long time ago, apparently it was reported wrong by fansites and stuff earlier.
>>723960508What did they mean by making rita the most motherly one in the cast
>>724020169By which definition exactly? 14 is the cutoff as far as I know.
>>724026041nah, 15 usually, ephebophilia tends to get defined as 16-18, but really it should be 17 because at 18 they're legally an adult.It's normal to feel some attraction to adolescent girls that's just biology, but it's when it's a PREFERENCE for those ages that it becomes an issue, and when it's attraction to prepubescent.
Courage is the magic that turns dreams into reality
>>723969428cheers fellow methuselahchad
Hey, this reminds me of that time >>724026407 said "Courage is the magic that turns dreams into reality"
I never beat the game but does she ever stop being a cunt, she constantly bullies Karol early game for no reason, it's the worst combination honestly, a hot girl who's just a bitch
>>724026530Karol exists to be bullied
>>72402625715 is early highschool age, that's too high.
>>724026627well given that Rita's still kinda flat just "buds" she fits hebe more than high school age I guess.
>>723984924Adolescence was for lusting after Sheena.Adulthood was realizing after a few nights of hearing our moans Raine would be sexually frustrated enough to join us for a threesome.
>>724024609Can't wait. Gaius is finally going to make his glorious return.
>>724027369Gonna have to wait 'til 2 to play as him though
>>724026627It's also JC age
>>724027369>>724027461Should've just remastered 2.
>>724027010based.I did go for Sheena first but Raine ends up being more appealing in the long term.
>>724025607i wouldn't mind more of those either, but getting any at all is something to be thankful for.
>>724027845I wonder if Form Destroyer is still gonna tank the frame rate.
>>724023970I have to say, I think Michelle Ruff is at her best when she's voicing snarky cunt characters like Rita and Yukari from Persona 3
Why did she do it bros
>>724028713Colette would never do this delete this slander
>>724028713fuck Colette.I can't stand her.worst cast member.
>>724028845what kind of sicko hates colette?
>>724028845>fuck ColetteYes, that's the plan.
>>724027845They are, it's just not ready yet. They outsourced the remasters to different companies.
Which is better: Abyss or Symphonia?
>>724029024Abyss. Played Symphonia recently and it did not age well combat wise
>>724029024Abyss
>>724029024I got more nostalgia for Symphonia but Abyss is better
>>724028896I dunno but I can get liking her the least. She's pretty boring compared to the others, but that's true of pretty much all "canon" love interests across JRPGs. Fortunately, this is the one Tales game where you can actually choose who the protagonist ends up with so there's no reason to complain
>>724029024Abyss is an evolution of Symphonia mechanically, being also the first 3D game where you can run around in combat in full 3D instead of in a straight line akin to the 2D Tales. It also has one of the strongest narratives in the franchise.
>>723984924>Newest Home Console re-release is blah>Game's team mom gets an uncharacteristic win via new clothes for the party for the game's anniversary>To be used only in merchandise and subsequent fan art, of courseNot the ending I wanted, but a win's a win.>>724028964And it's about half as useful with all the HD editions being cropped>>724029165The last time I played it, it felt like the game was almost afraid to delve very far into her mind, lest they ruin the kawaii Nana Mizuki vehicle. Skits or conversations on the cusp of saying something about her and then they end or change the subject.
>>724029392>afraid to delve very far into her mindThere ain't anything in that noggin
>game ends with Yuri, Judith, Karol, and Repede traveling the world together as their own little guildYuri and Judith fuck regularly and nothing can convince me otherwise.
>>724029024Abyss.
>>724029863They definitely fucked, but neither one seems the type to settle down.
I shouldn't have clicked this thread.Its too immoral!
>>724029921You don't notice how much more 'lively' and animated the cutscenes are until you play this and Symphonia back to back. Crazy what a couple of years did back then.
>>724030304Yeah you could really FEEL videogames evolving back then.
>>724030484Now its all slop beside pokemon
>>724029485Well I never meant to claim it was a DEEP well.>>724029921>This followed by Guy leaping 300 feet into the air but making a perfect landing and scurrying offSo damned funny in the completely earnest sort of way, they must have been so happy to have any degree of in-engine character animation after Symphonia had none.Video unrelated.
>>724030602GO STARMIE GO GO
>>724030653>So damned funny in the completely earnest sort of way, they must have been so happy to have any degree of in-engine character animation after Symphonia had none..hack// is another game like that where the animators had a blast.There was a bunch of pretty decent scenes in //IMOQ but in Quarantine there was a big cutscene in the final battle where the MC was jumping around dodging things like a soccer player like he is in real life. You could pinpoint that moment where they realized "oh man we can actually do stuff like this!" and then they came out with .hack//G.U. which had all sorts of action-oriented cutscenes. And CC2 quickly became known as that sort of developer.It's nice seeing them have fun.
>>724024848Natalia got a bunch of good ones.
>Tales Of series has plenty of hot older women in their 20's and even 30's. >The fanbase gravitates toward the 18 and under group Kek
>>724030994Tbf, Sheena and Judith are 19
>>724021465They play with it quite a bit. Like having Yuri's profile in one of the guidebooks state that his type is blonde and 180cm. Or in that novel series about their childhood where we find out that Yuri taught himself how to cook clean and take care is children order to help Flynn.
>>724028713>uhhhh... whoops! I messed up! hehehe
>>723971401>>723974924but which one is better tho
>>723960508Best Tales game.
For me it's Edna
>>724023970God I love Michelle Ruff
>>724031330Depends on what you're going for.Judirh is better pure sexo material, but also absolutely nuts.Sheena is better wife material.
>>724030994Where did I put the- aha!To be pedantic, the true 20+'s are still a good lot but as >>724031043 alludes to there is a LOT of "make the women functional adults but not... you know... "old" going on in this series. But one can decide for themselves how much that matters.
>>724028845I felt that way as a teenager but recently played again and I think this is an abominable stance. Collette is extraordinarily kind and brave. She and Zelos are souls that shine like diamonds unless of course you get Kratos, in which case Zelos gets the bad end and his life was tragic and miserable for nothingEverybody else is just, like, cool dudes.
Long passionate baby-making with Raine.
>>724029024Symphonia has a bit of a better story, but Abyss's gameplay is a vast improvement, so Abyss wins overall.
>>724032394Used goods and also a bitch also dating your teacher is weird
>>724032394Raine is for sex education class only, you put a couple quarter elves in her and then move on to actual wife material like Sheena.
>>724032509>used goodsShe's literally never been touched by a man.
>>724031210Fujos all need to be eviscerated.
>>724032627*laughs in unicorn*
>>724032627There's a reason she couldn't see the unicorn and it's not just the water
>>724031210>Like having Yuri's profile in one of the guidebooks state that his type is blonde and 180cmYuri x Milla, I see
>>724032509
>>724032154when I was younger I hated her, when I replayed it on the PC version I hated her. I don't like damesl in distress type characters who are kind of helpless but get thrown in the party for some mcguffin reason. Colette. Asia from Highschool DxD
>>724032627lol, the unicorn scene was pretty blatant, and really how the fuck do you think she got that job as a schoolteacher in bumfuck Sylvarant? small town elders don't usually trust outsiders like that without a commitment.
Is there a Tales game where my main guy actually looks manlier than Kirito or they all really look like their girls will NTR them for chad?
>>724033017Justice for Alisha.Also sex with Alisha.
>>724033065>manlier than Kiritomost of them if you're setting the bar that low. Even Berseria passes that check despite the MC being a woman. the only game that doesn't is like... Graces.
>22 years>nobody has ripped the models of Colette and Sheena in a towelI'm disappointed guys.
>>724032509when it's male student bagging a female teacher it's "nice".and always has been, Van Halen even did a song about it. It used to be normie as fuck.>>724033017Alisha was cute, she got robbed.
>>724030602based
>>724033367She's also your best friend's sister, why not go with one of the more normal choices like the ninja from another dimension or your best friend's crush
>>724029024Abyssboth are excellent.
>>724032903>Young male teacher >Put in charge of an all-female class. >Is attractive and could probably land any adult female>Gets flustered by a middle schooler Kek
>>724033017The very epitome of sexo.
>>724033065Yuri Lowell is the most popular protagonist largely in part to him being a grown ass man rather than a teenage boy.and he has this ronin samurai air to him, becoming a vigilante. There were darker aspects to him.
>>724029921Jade is such a badass. He was my favorite character, but Abyss is my favorite Tales Of game, so I honestly enjoyed a lot of the characters.
Fuck I wish Sheena wasn't so shit in combatWho the fuck thought it was a good idea to lock her main goddamn mechanic to overlimit?
>TFW use to chant Jade's mystic arte in front of my dog when I was home alone>At the end I'd approach him and pet him >Would just stare at me like I was insane or ignore me
>>724033495she's not MY sister, she's hot, and I have a thing for Elveswhy just be best bros when we can be brothers in law?Dwarven Vow 69: Put a baby in Raine Sage
>>724033751Based autist, based dog. If your dog could talk, I'm sure you'd make for a compelling comedy duo.
>>724033751Unfathomably based
>>724033751I can't blame you, really.
>>724033751BLAH BLAH BLAH TIDAL WAVE!Not the same game but that was my favorite.
>>724034076fucking pussy shitthis is a REAL man's indignation chanthttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WbmCKT3XSAU
>>724034484https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BDBjoAKN_MUAlong with some 2007 nonsense.
>>724032983>I don't like damesl in distress type characters who are kind of helpless She's not that though. She's a brave soul who loves the world so much she WANTS to go on a journey she knows will end in her death and is slowly making her body into something else entirely. Imagining the story from her perspective is terrifying. And while she's outwardly meek and clumsy she's also canonically very strong. I mean I sympathize, that's how I read her on a first playthrough too, but she's got way more to her. I'd even say she's great.
>>724034861she's kinda incompetent at everything she does and it's her companions that actually get her there.
>>724034484I'm really fond of Heldalf's extended chant.
>>724035082>she's kinda incompetent at everything she doesShe's comically clumsy, that's as far as it goes>and it's her companions that actually get her there.Equally true of everyone. There would of course be no point in going on the journey in the first place if not for Collette and she is not significantly more or less responsible for their success than any other single character.
I am halfway through Phantasia right now bros. What should I play next?
>>724035801Destiny
Why is arise so bad bros?I had to drop it a few hours in.
>>724035801Yeah play 'em in order, the OG Destiny is worth it even if it's on the weaker side (PSX Phantasia was actually made after it and with a modified version of its engine so Destiny will feel like a downgrade). Then Eternia, which is pretty damn great.https://youtu.be/Kd5nFXKT5hI?t=52
>>724035957The wesernization made it lose a lot of the classic Tales charm, the skits are boring and reiterate what happens in the ot, the combat is full of damage-sponges and roll-spam...All in all, it's a Tales game in name only
>>724035957For me it was the loyal knight going insane when she found out the king only lifted everyone out of poverty and started treating them fairly because he personally hates to see suffering.Like that's some kind of big reveal that makes him fundamentally a bad guy somehow.It just seemed to me that if the writing is that melodramatic and stupid, it wasn't about to suddenly get better.Well that and the infuriating combat that's still pretending to be combo driven, but really just wants you to do a couple moves and start dodging again.
>>724034484WHAT the HECK is THAT?
>>724035957I played it once, got 100% and put it down permanently.It's amazing how beautiful it is, the sfx, the music's not bad, character designs are good, but it really just dropped the ball on the two most important parts of a Tales game: characters and gameplay.On the upside, they have a great base to build from when they get around to making a new Tales game.
>>724036789>but really just wants you to do a couple moves and start dodging again.The part where I got to the 5th lord and he used his mystic arte and the intention was for the player to spam roll for a whole minute straight sort of put the entire game into perspective for me.
>>724035957Can't play co-op
>>724035367yes, the macguffin that gets her in the party, while she's a liability on them most of the timeJust like Asia in Highschool DxD, she has a special skill that's useful (magical healing) but she's useless in a fight herself so they have to have someone cover her at all times, protecting her and shielding her and getting injured in her place in the process.
>>723960508>anon already posted THAT webmSome days you guys are alright. Bless you /v/.
>>724032045Does it even matter when the late 20s hag Magilou doesn't look a day older than barely adult Velvet and Eleanor?
>>724038348which
>>723965183This is actually accurate. I have always preferred little girls to old hags ever since 12 and I never see any appeals in those bimbo hags, I even used to think people who do weirdos.
>>724038793>>723993626A classic from our days of yore. Pretty infamous.
>>724032857Anon Milla is 168cm not 180cm.
>>724026257>but it's when it's a PREFERENCE for those ages that it becomes an issue, I don't recall any psych book calling it an issue
>>724039168close enough
>>723960508Tales of hebephilia
>>724018464Shes 150cm and Flat
>>724031486
>>724039936kys aislopper
>>724019263>Tempest, Dawn of the New WorldI played that in the PS3 collection. Can't remember anything about it other than I believe there's a fight you're supposed to lose and if you win you get a game over.
>>724040148
>>724040185One at the end, yeah. Emil pretends to be the genocidal Ratatosk so he gets killed and returned to Core form. If you win the fight, Emil ends up LARPing too hard and kills his friends.
>>724039936UUUUUUUUUUUOOOOOOOOOOOOOHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH
>>724033506Being handsome works with female of any age not just adults and given the choice everyone would easily go for the primer age that is middleschooler. More innocent, more youthful, less jaded, less manipulative.
I like my Tales Hebes cute & obscure
>>724030602>beside pokemonsure hope you mean beside literally like right next to pokeslop
>>723985925Never ask this question as your answers will always be all over the place...
test
>>724033065How would you design a Tales MC if you were in charge of the next game's character design?
Its over
>>723960508Anal
>>723985925World 3
>>724032793I still love the part where Lloyd asks her why she can't go see the unicorn and she just slaps him for asking that question.
>>723999438Mieu bros....
>>724030881Wasn't gu kind of like the predecessor to Asura's Wrath?
>>723962815I appreciated the forwardness and bluntness of why she wears bikini armor.Namely, because she wants to. You can't beat that logic, its the same as Yoko Taro's reasoning for 2B's outfit, its unassailable.
>>724030994That's life
Anal
>>723985925Symphonia, Vesperia and Berseria are seen as the more "peak" games of the series.Abyss, Graces f and Xilla 1/2 are good, Xilla 2 imo has the best story while Abyss has a very unique MC You're not the the hero of the story and if anything you're a detriment to the rest of your party. The moment they can get rid of you they do and you have to come to terms with the fact you're actually a horrible person trying to redeem yourself.Arise isn't really a tales game, Zestrilla is just a broken mess. Vesperia is my favourite in the series but I would say play Berseria
>>723993932BASED
>>724017579She’s only a year younger than Rita, so it makes sort of sense she’s down bad for him
>>724041419Shit girl
>>724055523Patty is like late twenties/thirty's something. The incident just de-aged her.
>>724055340Vesperia is more boring than all the other mentioned games.
>>724055340>Berseria>seen as the "peak" of the seriesIn what universe
>>724055523>>724057250well she looks like, 9 or something
>>724038186>she's useless in a fight herselfThat's not true at all. In fact she's significantly stronger on her own than Rayne or Genis and on par with Sheena. Of course they have to protect her though, protecting her is literally the point of assembling the party. And she also protects them. In fact everyone has to protect each other because that's the whole point of a party. You have imagined that she fits an archetype that she actually does not. I sympathize, it happened to me too the first time. Colette is both physically and emotionally ridiculously strong, and no more a liability than any other member of the party.
>>724059945I meant Asia in DxD is useless in a fight and has to be protected.Colette can of course fight, but the way her character is portrayed as being clumsy and incompetent gives off the same vibe, that while yes, mechanically in the game she can fight, in character, she's a liability that has to be protected by Lloyd.
Tales of Hebephillia
>>724029024>>724029024Unpopular opinion, Abyss has one of the weakest main cast out of all Tales games. Luke and Tear are fantastic and Luke is probably my favorite tales protag. Guy is a fantastic bro character and his conflicted past makes it nice to see how he just naturally grew to love Luke. The rest of the cast can get fucked.Jude was an asshole from start to finish and I found his smug personality insufferable.Anise can fuck herself.>Ion: Acutally everyone, this is way more my fault because I actually have knowledge of the world and I was the one that opened to door like a retared.>Anise: Don't waste your breath on him Ion, he is pure trash and this is all his faultNatasha never felt like she even belonged in the story. Her being a 7th fonist didn't seem to matter either, she was just there so players had another healer option other than Tear(why would you not just use Tear)All that said, it has a strong core narrative and the world is interesting with good theming. Graces is the reverse, I love the main cast and all the interactions they have together, but the villain, story and world are forgettable.
Saying Vesperia's story is weak is a giga brainlet moment.
>>724063623The story is clearly unfinished. You just go fight the final boss with barely any buildup and then it just ends.
The combat gets better during lategame right? I remember dropping it at the beginning of act 3
>>724063623>Act 1>Uh.. I need a blastia core for a water fountain, let's follow the thief>Act 2>Well I got the blastia core back but now what... um.. well that cute Princess I'm totally not in love with got called toxic, and she wants to know why.>I'll start a guild because my little brother type got kicked out of his and it'd cheer him up if we were in a guild together.>I guess our guild job will be escorting the Princess I'm totally not down bad for to go find out why she got called toxic>Oh so her magic power is toxic and she's supposed to die or it brings about an analogy for climate change that will destroy the world.>Oh no, my Princess got kidnapped and they're using her magic to summon some ancient superweapon place>I saved the princess, now we go to the ancient superweapon place>Oh no we're too late the ancient superweapon summoned the climate change analogy, well at least we killed the bad guy>Act 3>So to beat climate change we kill off all the macguffin creatures that normally regulate the climate and turn them into ghosts so they can regulate the climate.>Now we go to ANOTHER ancient superweapon place to stop ANOTHER bad guy wearing red with an imposing looking sword who determined the only way to stop climate change is to kill all the humans.>Our solution is better, humans can give up the technology that allows them to live modern lives in order to save the planet from climate change!>Yay! We won, we gave up our technology and stopped climate change!
>>724064986
>>724062921You're misplacing those two pieces of dialogue. Anise doesn't say anything when Ion tries to take some of the blame. She says that after Luke has outed himself as a piece of shit who only cares about himself, trying to blame the rest of the party for Akzeriuth.
>>724065421It literally wasn't his fault. Yes, he cares about himself in that situation because he was used as a tool to cause a massive tragedy. They all blamed him from the start. Anise was calling him a piece of shit before he was trying to deflect(justifiably) blame. Ion was more at fault and Anise ignores that because she likes Ion. She's a bitch who went from being a money hungry whore to a cunt to what was essentially a child.
>>724032045>Luke>17
>>724065810No one gives a fuck whose fault it was except for Luke and the retards who self-insert into him. He eventually understood that, why can't you?
>>724065810They all agree it was Luke's fault but he was deceived and don't give him shit for it until he started whining how he didn't know
How is graces f? Never heard anything about it before but enjoyed Symphonia.
>>724066223>>724066383>Luke it was all your fault>I didn't know what would happen, none of you told me what was going on>How dare this mental child imply this is partly my fault. What a piece of shit I hope he dies for what he clearly intended would happen.>But it wasn't my fault, I was just a tool that had no idea what I was doing>Fuck this kid. I'm leaving because he dared to make a reasonable explanation for his willingness to follow someone else's request.
>>724066704Who are you quoting?
>>724066610It's really good imo. Gives you everything you'd want out of a Tales game (minus an overworld to explore), and the battle system is fun. It's in my top 3
>>724066610It has a great main cast and some of the best skits in the series. Other than that it's pretty disappointing. Combat is pretty good too but the story is weak and the world is basiclly just three cities connected by squiggly corridors.
>>724066741Do you have a source on the claim that they didn't mind Luke blowing up Akzeriuth but were actually mad he was "whining how he didn't know"?
>>724067120They literally pause their discussion right after luke said that
>>724067180So they don't actually say that, and you are just making shit up in your head to justify your interpretation. Good to know.
>>724062921Filtered >>724065810Double filtered
>>724067347Based and We Must be Better Men pilled
>>724067120>didn't mind Luke blowing up AkzeriuthYou're putting words in my mouth. I said they don't care about playing the blame game, which they don't and you can see it by simply looking at the dialogue. Jade is the only one who says anything that could be interpreted as blame, and it's very light and passive (I wish you would have done X). The reason they're disgusted by him is because he is literally screaming "IT'S NOT MY FAULT" over and over when they're just trying to discuss the events. And then he even tries to shift blame onto the party.I know you're going to say "but he's 7 years old" or whatever other bullshit you want to justify the fact that you feel like you ARE Luke and you must defend his (your) honor, but you're just going to be missing the point again.
>>724066223It is funny how retards defend shit Act 1 Luke did that not even Luke himself ends up being proud of kek the narrative's not even subtle in how it explains he always had a choice and there's no excuse for what he did, especially after how he alienated the entire party in the months preceding Akzeriuth.
Wouldn't be a real Tales thread if we didn't get the resident anon believing Luke did nothing wrong
Death to Abyssfags
>>724067581>"but he's 7 years old" or whatever other bullshit you want to justify the fact that you feel like you ARE LukeFor a guy claiming I'm putting words in your mouth you are putting a lot of thoughts into my head. I'm not self inserting as Luke. I don't feel guilt about what happened in a fictional world. I looking at the events as a third party observer and while I enjoy the arc that the destruction of Akzeriuth lead Luke done it feels forced in that specific scene. Jude admits "I wish you had asked us about what Van was planning to do"(not a direct quote), Ion admits he opened the door even though he had knowledge on what could happen. Luke later admits that it was is ignorance that led to the disaster and he wants to change that(his ignorance)Tear did nothing to warn Luke what Van was planning. Yet the game treats the entire tragedy as his 100% his fault when he had some of the least fault in the entire situation. It's like blaming the knife in a stabbing.I get that you BELIEVE they weren't mad at him for the destruction and that they were only mad because he wasn't accepting what he "had done", but ignoring that fact he is 7 and literally never left his house before is a fair excuse and makes the party members' behavior clearly shitty.>>724067728It isn't even that act 1 Luke is a good guy or whatever. He's an ass in almost all of his interpersonal interactions but he is clears kind deep down. The empathy and care he shows Ion, who shared a similar situation of house arrest, showed his better side. But everyone being shitty to him because he wasn't a perfectly well adjusted 17 year old with tons of world experience was retarded when he was literally none of those things and not by his own choice. Luke hates his past self for his ignorance, not because he thinks he was a jerk.
>>724066610Starting to forget the story and gameplay. At this rate if i dont finish it before 1 January 2026, im gonna finish it with Journalist Difflucity mode and set the game into AUTO
https://lparchive.org/Tales-of-the-Abyss/Update%2020/> “It's not... it's not my fault! Master Van said... yeah! Master Van told me to do it! I had no idea this would happen! No one told me! It's not my fault! It's not my fault!”
>>724060510>she's a liability that has to be protected by Lloyd.Lloyd is literally there TO BE her bodyguard. It's the dynamic he signed up for, but they still fight side by side as near equals. She's not a liability, she's the fucking world-redeemer the entire party EXISTS to help complete her pilgrimage. She's not holding anybody back, she's the literal point of the journey. And then of course when that falls apart she continues to be an equal member of the team. Ask yourself honestly, does Lloyd get the party in any LESS trouble? Is he not equally guilty of stumbling into disasters because he's a big-hearted idiot? They're a team, they look out for each other. No one is a liability, they all have baggage and foibles and help each other more or less equally. You've just got it out for her because she superficially fits an archetype. But she's really not like that at all.
>>724069492>A-are you saying it's my fault?>no one says anything showing that they all believe it is his fault>It's not... it's not my fault! Master Van said... yeah! Master Van told me to do it! I had no idea this would happen! No one told me! It's not my fault! It's not my fault!>Jade: I'm returning to the bridge. If I stay here, I'll just be irritated by some ridiculous ranting.>Natalia: Ever since you lost your memory, you've like a completely different person!>Anise: Ion! Don't even bother talking to him. He's not worth it.>Guy: Luke... don't make me think even less of you...>Tear: I was stupid for starting to think you had some good in you.Yup, all seem like reasonable reactions to a kid having a metal break down.
>>724069754yes, the special power/macguffin is a reason to stick her in the party I acknowledge that.but the vibe she gives as a character, not in combat mind you, but her characterization is that she's totally being carried.
>>724070185You are applying that vibe to her, not receiving it from her. It is not supported by the source material.
>>724070396no I got it from her, the first time I played it I didn't like her for it, neither the next time I played it years later either.
SHōRI no AIZU!This is the only line I remember after my first playthrough.That, and all of the mouth sounds from Flynn and Duke's VAs.
>>724068810Oh, it's you again.
>>724071520I just dont have fucking time.
>>724071716got those IGN articles to write huh?
>>724071829Im not a Journalist. i work at insurance company
>>724071964even worse, a grifter
>>724064986The game is all about justice, every scenario centers around this concept, all themes return to the subject of personal justice and every antagonist gives Yuri and co. opportunity to explore that.You being reductive doesn't make it bad, it says a lot about you though.
>>724068765>Yet the game treats the entire tragedy as his 100% his faultNo it doesn't. The party hates the way he ACTS about the situation, not what he did. They don't pin the blame on him. Nobody ever says "akzeriuth was YOUR fault", they ask him if he's going to throw another tantrum like a child.
>>724072338the individual characters are good, it's the overarching plot that meanders and struggles to find a real reason to keep together and traveling that is weak.2nd act especially.
>>724068810Well, you're at the final boss. But then again, there is that entire epilogue. Haven't finished it yet but the Tales wiki says it's only a quarter less of the length of the original story, so.... have fun, bro
>>724073090Last time i play it.... 3 months ago...
>>724070528We're not gonna get anywhere on this I guess. I can only assure you, it's a complete misread of her character that you're experiencing only because of your prejudices. Banishing those and judging her purely in her own context and by her own words and actions would reveal a canny, brave, and stoic hero who willingly puts herself in danger AND rises to terrifying challenges purely out of love for others. It's harder to recognize because she's a sweet maiden in white but it's absolutely who she is.
>>724070167It's been a while since I played Abyss, but did they even know Luke was a clone at this point in the story? Aside from Jade, I mean.
>>724074578>>724074618You abyssfag never stop discussing this samey shit for a decade now
>>724074845Nigga it's a Tales thread, what else do you want us to talk about?
>>724074989Something else
>ToV has insane frame pacing issues on pc>lossless for a smooth experience not possible since it does not properly work with ToV on steam>decide to get the switch emu and ToV>60 fps zero issues with cranked up resolutionBamco is incompetent.
>>724069492God, what a cunt
>>724075046Go ahead then buddy, no one is stopping you.
>>724075057I mean, you're right, but also special k exists.
>>724074618I'm pretty sure Guy did
I think Vesperia would've benefitted best from a sequel. Unlike that travesty of DotNW, where Symphonia's story already wraps up neatly while also setting up Phantasia, Vesperia felt a little too unresolved and unfinished. Hell, we don't even get a proper epilogue
>>723970820MUNCH MUNCH MUNCH
>>724075865i don't trust any tales sequel after destiny 2
>>724029921PS2 game from 2005 has better animations than mainline pokemon in 2025
>>724074845but we were talking about Symphonia, particularly Colette.I dislike Colette, the other anon likes her.
Would Tear be on the list of Top Vidya fapbait characters of all time if they actually gave her the yulia outfit back in the day?
>>724075865I guess, considering all blastia are now toast but monsters still exist they'd have to learn to use elemental spirits and mana to do magic and artes
>>724077834Maybe Anise would.
>>724077834I didn't know she wasn't on the list.She's just not as famous as like Tifa
>>724077834Probably not, even as one of the more popular Tales heroines she's overall obscure in vidya as a whole which suits me just fine. I do think it's a shame the outfit was never created for the game itself, left only as concept art and an addition to a gacha game nobody cares for.
>>724077834I find more value in Tear as a character than just how attractive she is, so relegating her to fapbait doesn't really do it for me.
Best girl
>>724077917was this really needed for the design of a child?
>>724077917>>724079516Shes 2cm Taller than Rita
>>724079516The lack of this type of design in recent years is an indicator of how miserable society has become.
>>724079516Absolutely.
>>724079859What models are even used for this sloppa
>>724080787Wan
>>723960508Rita is such a cute lesbian.
>>723965178t.Rita
>>724063623Weak is praise. It's trash, boring and almost unexistent.They created a good game with beautiful assets and nice mechanics. Too bad no one cared about actually writing a history worth of it. All characters beside Yuri and Judith suck as well.
>>724032812>Genis: so then just Raine and...>Raine: I'll pass>...>Lloyd: why can't Raine go>Raine: because I'm an adultI wouldn't bet my life on it, especially since it's a translation. It could just mean she is too old.So I took a peek at the original dialogue. It's pretty accurate actually. I'm not familiar with the subtleties of the japanese language though.>女だけしか近づけないなんてえり好みするなぁ>何で先生はダメなんだよ>大人、 だからよ>ふーん?based on Sheena's reaction I would say it's true though.btw. for some reason Colette doesn't react in the remaster
>>723960508Impregnation imminent.
>>724082335>>724020996>lesbianShe's bisexual though.
>>724021854>>724021851>>723993932Why is Estelle so insecure when her body is also sexo?
>>724084858Cause she sees how Judith and Yuri interact
>>724084858because>They're...... bouncing...>I wish I could bounce....
>>724083556And I thought the cut dialogue was just incompetence, there's someone actively making it worse with each release.
>>723994140/v/ is a bottomless only board
>>724083556AddendumI can't find a clear translation for 乙女 it's something between young girl and maiden.So it might still be a bit ambiguous.Kind of lewd how Raine just assumes that Sheena had sex before.Unlike Colette, Genis and Lloyd who are oblivious about the meaning.However if they are talking about age, maybe they just assumed Sheena is an adult.
>>724089889It's just a different writing of Shoujo
>>724083556Kratos probably tapped that ass on the journey
>>724075865>while also setting up PhantasiaAnd introducing a plot hole into it. Filling that hole is the ultimate conflict in Symphonia 2.>>724077042I can understand being upset at the way Destiny 2 treats 1's cast, but it's a really fucking good game.
>>723982763>still upI kneel
>>724090025>清らかな乙女しかthat was the line. It says pure maiden. Not sure if this is commonly used for virgins.just noticed I copied the wrong line from my transcript>>724083556>じゃあ姉さんたちだけで。。。>so then my big sister will...私は残らせてもらうわ。コレットー人でおいきなさい>I'll stay, Colette you go ahead>何で先生はダメなんだよ>Why is sensei no good?>大人、 だからよ>adult, that's why>ふーん?>huh?https://youtu.be/hJP4iRrV-h4?si=g3QY_FXrxiMTOXX4&t=909
What is Rita even good for?
>>724079584The scaling on this was so bad.
>>724096029No wonder it died
>>724035957It feels too much like modern anime. Instead of telling a story, it's trying to sell a premise.
>>724094449insulting her stench
Post worst girls in the series or your dick will never become hard again
>>724100347I don't have any pictures of Rose.
>>724096029
>>724064986I think you might just be a fucking retard, anon.
>>724066383He's 8.
>>724067728Act 1 Luke had personality. Post haircut Luke is a fucking doormat.
>>724101310that is Vesperia's story.sorry you were too dumb to grasp that it was an analogy for human caused climate change.
>>724101743>doesn't understand the very basic premise of yuri's character even thought the game has him blatanty state it when creating the guild laws and basically every single one of his and flynn's conversations>calls others stupidClassic retard behavior.
>>724101934it was all pretense so that he could keep being with Estelle.even Rita comments that they just seem like they're winging it.
>>724100962sexsexsexsex
>>724101608>>724101701(You) issue
>>724102528What about Teepo?
>>724078493Correct
>>724103053Teepo would yell out loud what Elize is feeling.
>>724101701Being spoiled isn't "personality"
REPLICAAAAAA
>>724030994>Tales Of series has plenty of hot older women in their 20's and even 30's.not really, 99% of Tales party members are under 20, and party members get all the focus. any milfs or hags the games have are gonna be minor side characters so it makes sense the fanbase doesn't give them a lot of attention.
>>723960508The faces in Tales of Vesperia are so ugly it's unreal.
>>724104353you're ugly.
Is Flynn the dumbest character in Tales history?
>>724104578The 3D models are ugly but I feel like the 3D guy just followed the trash that the character artist made so he can't be blamed.
>>724104632I dunno, Asbel was pretty dumb.
>>724104632Lloyd is a blockhead
>>724104632The best part about Flynn was he was right in the end, technically.
>>724105584Vesperia's story didn't have an easy black and white problem you could be right about. It's literally all just opinions till the very end.
>>724103053More like Tenga
>>724074845Not people's fault if only Abyss and Berseria had interesting stories worth discussing.
>>724101701Let me guess, you like Squall because he is an idiot for 80% of the game.
>>724105584Since? He admited Sergei was wrong
>>724100962lolihebehebeloli
crestoria was bad.I made it about 2 months before I got bored and uninstalled
>>723960508Made for Repede.
>>724107651>Squall>the most based character in the game>tactical leader that knows how to inspire others and jumps into action the moment things fail (inspires Irvine to take the shot by taking the responsability away from him, congratulates him afterwards even when the shot 'fails', immediately jumps into a car and tokyo drifts his way to the parade)>tells hot chick to go talk to a wall>realistically in-depth character, you get to hear his inner thoughts when alone to contrast them with the front he puts when surrounded by other people that look up to him after Robin Williams makes him the war general of the entire Garden>"he is an idiot for 80% of the game"Filtered
>>724111081Whatever...
>>724109263I made it a day.
>>724112138I really wanted to like it, I had not tried Rays before global for it died, so. I wanted to try a Tales gacha .. but it was just so bad.The raids especially
>>724112476I don't want to be drip-fed content, it feels terrible. I just want more crossover games.
>>723960508Played through Berseria recently. I liked the earlier Tales games (Phantasia, Symphonia, Abyss, Vesperia), but this one was pure slop. Are any of the other "modern" games worth playing?
>>724064986>>724065135My favorite thing about Alexei is that he kept having world changing technology built like the weather machine or the giant mobile super fortress. Then, after they were completed, he'd always get bored of them and discarded them in favor of the next shiny new thing/idea that came his way.
>>724113628if you didn't like berseria then no the rest are much worse.
>>724113628Try out Xillia, its remaster comes out in six days
>>724114238>Starts off X1 as a college med student.>Starts X2 as a scientist and ends the game inventing pokemonwhat the fuck is with this kid's brain?
>>724113628graces was the first one to change the combat system to where "everything is an arte"I haven't played it myself yet, since I just do PC/Nintendo/I had a 360 for that one gen but won't buy any more microsoft consoles.But after having played Zestiria and Berseria and not liking the changes to the combat system (Berseria had a great cast at least, and I liked Edna and Lailah in Zestiria, and armatization was kinda cool), and since I heard graces was the start of that I've been less excited to get it when it came to PC.. someday I will though.I hear Berseria is as good as it gets from Graces on.
>>724115616Graces feels better and more fluid, I played a bit of Xillia and that felt floaty in comparison. I played a bit of Zestiria too and that game has a ton of other problems. Maybe because it was originally a Wii game, but Graces isn't ugly as sin. Somehow the games that came after have such muted graphics and the environments are bland corridors or empty open world.
>>724018361I've said it before and I'll say it again, she should've been a secret unlockable character, like in older JRPGs. She adds nothing to the story.
>>724115616>I hear Berseria is as good as it gets from Graces on.The combat is objectively better than graces.
>>724031210Because guides never make jokes and are totally canon
>>724116530Maybe if you ban Velvet from your party. And even then, I'm not buying it.
>>724117115yeah man just ban Asbel from your party.
>>724117440Why? Asbel isn't broken. Velvet literally can't die if you have 3 or more souls, she ruins the game.
>>724117535then don't use her, the AI can't use her as well as you can.
>>724089889Because Sheena is an adult
>>724013991>going to the shop equip menus with Flynn in the party shows a perfect empty space for one last characterDo you know what an odd number is?
>>724029863It's definitely implied with all their night talks.
>>724032045diddyblud really be roleplaying on 4chan frts fryin me
>>723960508For me, It's Rutee.
>>723960508For me it's Rinwell
Not enough Yuri x Judith doujins.
>>724119629Sex with Rutee.
>>724119789Sex with Rinwell.
>>724100347Sex with Pascal.
>>724078493>>724103473Sex with Philia.
>>724074845KYS Ednacuck
The games need more fanservice
>>724119629Canonical impregnation
>>723969459Lloyd's Wife.
>>723960508is it weird I gooned to Pascal back in the day.
>>724124137Garbage Goblin
>>723960508I used to have quite the crush on Marta.>inb4 Dawn of the New Garbage kekI know, I know. But still, something about her mannerisms and voice just plucked on my heartstrings.
>>724126936me tooeven back then I knew the game was horrible tho
>>724127042Great taste, anon. The game might be irredeemable ass but Marta is its' sole shining light.
>>724075836>>724074618Only Jade knew. Guy/Natalia just assumed that "Luke" changed and spent their time coddling him hoping that he'd get his "memories" back.When they find out that Luke is a replica, the tune changes considerably outside of like Anise.
>>724126936Emil is built to watch Marta get fucked by me
>>724126936Marta is cute and bratty, the problem is the main plot is kind of stupid, the old cast is mischaracterized or wasted, and Emil is a weak protag. He's a bit of a Gary Stu. I don't really remember any bad consequences of him going Ratatosk mode, other than being really mean and scary, but I've played DotNW like 6 times and I don't want to again.
>>724128181>going Ratatosk modeLike the mythological squirrel, Ratatoskr? The one that delivers messages?
>>724128240Yes, the squirrel that protects the new world tree put its core in Marta's head and makes Emil a knight.
>>724128326I feel like that concept needed a revision because jesus christ is it dumb.
I want to try Vesperia because Judith is hot but what other anons are saying about it makes me dubious.t. played Phantasia and liked it but played Berseria and hated it
>>724128607If you're able to free your mind of expecations/preconceptions of other tales games to play Vesperia, you'll enjoy it for what it is. Go for it anon
>>724103971yuri and rita and estelle
>>723962815BASeD beyond LIFe
>>724128607it's one of the best tales titles, for tales greatness it's always either vesperia, symphonia, or abyss.
>>724038748I certainly wouldn't lose much sleep over it.>>724084858>Estelle also sexoDo you think anyone has every told her so that bluntly? I'd like to see that.Playing the game intermittently myself, Estelle doesn't get out much, right? Judith is intimidating to both sexes on a good day, she'd be even more of a shock if you aren't out and about seeing more kinds of people very often and getting used to comparing yourself.>>724127205>Marta was the game's sole lightI'm going to presume Tenebrae went unmentioned because calling him a "light" would be a faux pas, heh heh.>>724128181There is not much of a "so what?" to Dawn, when you think about it. Emil is presumed by the story to have grown more assertive and Marta doesn't really grow either, that I recall. Still adorable at times, though, particularly the silly sidequests.
>>724100347there is a worst girl in that game but it's neither pascal nor sophie.A certain red cockroach
Guys, lay it on me straight. Will Tales games ever be good again?
>>724133304define "good"
>>724133472I guess at this point it would be something that was a good game from start to beginning and doesn't feel like they had to rush things towards the end.
>>724133559Start to ending, even. Fuck me. I really need to start drinking.
Zestiria Remaster, but Alisha is now full party member.
>>723960508Anyone posted the skit where she says she did not wash up for a week? Hot. Too lazy to scan the whole thread.
>>724133607lol?
>>724133681That game needs a full remake. Plus, all their remasters have had some problem or another.
>>723960508who
feels good to see a Tales thread reach bump limit
