I have a bad feeling about thishttps://m.youtube.com/watch?v=PnfSbNwm3aI&pp=0gcJCQYKAYcqIYzv
I can't believe Blizzard is suing Turtle WOW because their head dev went down to their offices and slapped the CEO across the face with his massive bear cock and went "Haha get a load of MY turtle" that was really weird, I was there i nthe office when it happened it's so strange how he just took out his huge cockpenis and ran it up and down across the CEO's face and a bit of cum dribbled out, idk why he did that
blizzard is dead, current day blizzard is not blizzard
I tried TWOW. It was chill, I guess. I liked their rework of Blood Elves. rip
Good. Private server owners are insufferable faggots. When Nostalrius asked to be part of classic and got ignored by blizz after they took the information from the devs it was peak kino.Retards need to learn you cannot make money off of someone elses property
>>723962512God I hate that retard and his act of trying to be >le comfy content creator xD
>>723962512Actively profiting and paying an entire dev team using an active IP like Warcraft is grounds to get sued. They can win the court of public opinion by obscuring that fact, but, they ain't winning any legal battles. Should of kept their heads down, instead of actively provoking this.
>>723963321Blizzard is making money off of someone else's property at this point >=^(
>>723962512Im not watching the video, what is in it?
>>723964606tl;dr the one guy living in the US is trying to get a discovery on him refused because "hes never been involved" despite a bunch of his usernames and info being directly linkable to twowthe strip mall lawyer he's hired is doing a terrible job of defending him and so he's likely going to get charged with perjury too
>>723965125Thank you. yea, things seem bleak for the turtle wow team in NA and EU.
>>723965125Thank you! I hate watching content creators because they waffle on for way to long. Even worse if they have stupid intros.
>>723965329>>723965486all of the court filings are publicly available here https://www.courtlistener.com/docket/71235075/blizzard-entertainment-inc-v-turtle-wow/Josiah Zimmer (Akalix) their community manager, is the only twow staff member in a US jurisdiction so hes basically fuckedin the documents dated october 14th he's trying to claim that he's never been involved with twow or has had any involvement or knowledge of the doe defendants (shenna etc)which is an obvious lie and if proven as a lie would be liable to adding a perjury charge to him personally and would give more weight to blizzards casethe rest of them are either:in the EU (meaning potential extradition if blizzard manage to get strong enough charges)or they're outside the EU and risk the above extradition if they ever enter a country with an extradition treaty
>>723963901I don't care if a mega corporation makes money off an IP they own. I do care if some tranny faggot is making money off of it and pretending their spin off of the product is the best shit to bless the earth and think they are entitled to money for something they never created either.
>>723962512I only hope nublizzard wastes a lot of money and doesn't accomplish anything.
>>723965934That's crazy he'd perjure himself.
>>723965934lol he's so fucked, I wonder if they can use the leaked logs as evidence cause he pretty much doxes himself in those
>>723966185Least pretentious corporate bootlicker
>>723966402>>723966612its not him, its the shitty law firm he's hiredprobably the best he can afford himself plus (if any) extra money wired from shennaas it stands he has a handful of options>obfuscate and delay the case so blizzard gets bored and the defendants can settle out of court (unlikely)>do the above but try and escape the US and go somewhere that doesnt have extradition (grey) and realistically never being able to set foot in any of the green countries ever again without risking prison time>or just throw in the towel and submit to whatever blizzard wants but this will give more weight to blizzard's case to continue on raping shenna
>>723962512Is there porn of this turtle she looks hot
>>723966839lol man he aint fleeing to russia he's just some retarded zoomer not edward snowden
Also turtle wrote an open letter a few days ago asking blizzard to pretty please just let people run private servers if they pay for a licence. Honestly I'd love if blizzard did that, but they won't.
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>>723967328
>>723967243more of a PR stunt that anything, Twow leadership would hvae to be pretty retarded to believe blizzard would ever even consider this
>>723967243>>723967328>>723967398it's like they're 12 and wrote mommy a letter about why they shouldn't get in trouble lmao
>>723966185A couple of years ago I would have called you a faggot and moved up but I actually agree now. We need as many corporate boots stepping on people as possible until we accelerate gaming culture to the point fan games and fan works aren't a thing anymore. People should create their own media instead of basing their lives off of other people's work
>>723967243Turtles fucking stupid because they not only ran the servers for profit but also RAN YOUTUBE ADS FOR IT ON WARCRAFT VIDEOS. 100% for private servers. But when you make money from it you're asking to get fucked by the long dick of the law. Plus their shilling on /v/ and /vg/ was annoying spam
>>723967518It is 100% them trying to generate some noise hoping they can get the public on their side if they can start up a drama/dialog about custom community servers like how nost's shutdown led to the push for classic WoW. Won't work though. I don't think anywhere near as many people care about the concept of community servers compared to how many cared about getting vanilla servers back in the day. And unlike Most, turtle hasn't just been slapped with a C&D and are in much deeper shit that I don't think blizzard will back down on over temporary social media outrage (assuming any outrage is generated at all)
>>723962512Its always jew crying 'catch the jew'.Story old as Earth itself.
Remember when Blizzard gave player a whole lever editor with their game
So, can someone explain to me why are these server owners being labeled as gigajew if the servers are free to play, no one is required to donate, and whoever does it is out of their own free will. If people didn't donate and just played the official servers the private servers would die, so what's the deal? How are some russians stealing players from a billion dollars company?
>723968874(You)
>>723968874they're running for-profit a pirate server using stolen assets, it's not rocket science dingus, you doofus, you downright dummy.
>>723969064How is it for profit if no one has to pay them anything?
>>723969159its operated by some company opened in taiwan and the company isn't labeled as a charity/non-profit
>>723969159for profit doesn't mean every single user is required to payfor profit means the project is being developed for the purpose of generating profit. but you already know this and are just being a tedious redditor on account of your homosexuality
>>723969159cause theyre selling ingame items for moneyits like someone opening a cinema with pirated movies and the only things you have to pay for are things like popcorn/drinks/food (the only actually profitable things in this business btw)
>>723969247Where can I find this?>>723969293Stop seething I'm just asking questions. At no point anyone has to pay for anything though.>>723969437No one is asked to buy anything as far as I understand, so it would be like making a cinema with pirated movies for free, and then whoever feels like it buys popcorn.
>>723969731how do you not understand that the main selling point is still the pirated IP?
Learn to read niggashttps://www.courtlistener.com/docket/71235075/1/blizzard-entertainment-inc-v-turtle-wow/
>>723969969Why cant blizzard use their IP better then
>>723969731yes and those people who do buy the popcorn generate the profit you fucking retard this is literally how the free to play model worksTurtle wow is a for profit game in exactly the same way fortnite is a for profit game
>>723970073Are they required to buy it to play?
I wonder if some ppl are ragebaiting or are they that fucking delusionalIm just glad ascension doesn't even pretend to hold back, they rip every fucking single texture created by blizzard and sells it for cash because they despise them.
>>723970324do you believe that fortnite is a for profit game or so you think it's a charity?
>>723970493It's one retard troll
The High Elves in Tuttle Wow can be magic classes. Even though High Elves stopped using magic. Blood Elves continued to feed off magic after the Sunwell was destroyed. The High Elves decided to give up on magic and become lethargic.I think in Wrath of the Lich King there's High Elves in Dalaran who probably use magic but they were cut off and are therefore different than the High Elves that were outside the city, besides this is all based on the original game. And in the original game there's two groups of High Elves and they don't use magic. They are allied with the Alliance though, but them fading away as the Blood Elves take over makes more sense.I don't even know where the High Elf area is, I don't think they gave Silvermoon City to them. But then is Quel'thalas a place you can go into in Turtle WoW? I don't know because I'm not playing Turtle WoW, t has an online store and isn't available to play offline.
>>723970324in the real adult world there are things as business classifications that are legal terms that aren't your wordplay mumbo jumbo, if they are not a non-profit entity on their tax forms, they are a for-profit entity on their tax forms, you know they pay taxes on their revenue or they are operating illegally right?
>>723970493Wonder how come they are not hitting Ascension as well? Same thing innit.
>>723970928They have a custom starting zone and city north of strathholme but still south of quel'thalas called Alah'thalas
>>723971091Well, they steal fucking ascension ideas all the time while ascension steals their art (textures, models etc.).Schizo theory is that Kaladin works for both
>>723963740I would ask why they don't just use all those resources and playbase to create their own IP. Literally all they would have to do is reskin and rename things.But then people are only playing it because it's WoW. It could be mechanically the exact same game and no one would play it because it's not Warcraft.
>>723969731
>>723971306Because these people are talentless grifters. They are incapable of creating anything without stealing assets made 20 years ago
>>723970928>High Elves stopped using magichuh doesn't wc3 have priests and sorceresses running around all game using magic?
>>723971643Pservers arent about creating but about managing the product, something that Blizzard is failing at for over a decade if not longer
>>723971306>Literally all they would have to do is reskin and rename things.I know this is /v/ but how are people THIS fucking clueless about gamedev
>>723971712For other pservers yes but not turtle wow, their whole schtick was their created content and homebrew classes you fucking retard
>>723962512I genuinely want all of the Turtle troons involved to be publicly beheaded. Fuck Blizz jew but I hate these malware shill peddling faggots just as much.
>>723971673That would be leading up to and shortly after the Sunwell's destruction. As time went on after the Sunwell is destroyed the Elves either had to give up on magic or find a new source, the Blood Elves tried to find a new source while the High Elves did not. Most of them. I guess there's not too much to go on about what happened to the High Elves since Blizzard mostly stopped caring.But it just makes sense they'd give up on magic after the Sunwell was gone, because if they didn't they'd be with the Blood Elves, addicted to sucking up magic from anything.
>>723969159>how are f2p mobile games for-profit
>>723968874Because they are activelly making money by getting you to insall a cryptominer trojan. Same with Ascension. Private jew owners are scum, not to mention RTM and blackmail, etc...
>>723970928Why do people want to play as high elves? It’s just blue eyed blood elves. Do you faggots seriously need an entire race for a blue eyed customization option or are you niggers THAT allergic to playing horde?
how does warmane keep getting away with it
>>723968874They have Microtransactions pay-to-win garbage in Turtle WoW. And they even have the nerve to call it Donation Rewards.I don't understand, because in a world of kick-starters and Pateron support stuff, why is this necessary, it's not. If they said "We are going to have to shut down unless we make enough donations" because would donate, and you'd have a lot more people playing because there's no microtransactions.People fund unfinished trash games thousands of dollars, idiots would pay so much money freely to Turtle WoW. The only reason they want a cash shop is because they like the idea, "oooh yes let me see what I can sell for money hehe, what a salesman I am."
>>723975019They are thieves, that’s all. If wow was discontinued than i wouldn’t really care people are bringing it back with their own ideas injected but the game has a corpo still. These turtle fags were greedy and flew way to close to the sun. Their bad campaign was huge mistake and it didn’t help they would attack blizzard openly and mock them under their official game name
>>723968708Remember when all of Blizzard development were white and males? And all of their customers were about the same, and liberal trannyism hadn't been mainstream yet? Good times
>>723962512It started at the end of August.https://www.courtlistener.com/docket/71235075/blizzard-entertainment-inc-v-turtle-wow/
>>723967243>SHIT:(>SHIT BY BIG CORP:O
>>723975019And streamers are millionaires from donations, they don't do anything! But if you make a game suddenly "Well we can't survive off donations for this giant WoW fan project, WoW fans who have given hundreds of dollars to Blizzard aren't going to help us."Just have a menu in game that shows how much donations you need to survive each month, like many websites do.And unfortunately now I see people online saying, even about Turtle WoW directly "Well you know I'd understand if they just did cosmetic microtransactions, I understand they need to survive somehow and that's the way you got to do it you know." No they don't, no game has ever needed that, and if they do they're a failure.But the modding scene for WoW is about to explode, things much greater than Turtle WoW will come in the next few years. You'll have free editors. "WoW Dungeon Maker". I'd prefer WoW 2 over "Classic+" but that's never happening, nor is anyone ever going to make another good mmorpg ever again, ever.
>>723974956Because they're retarded. There are almost no normal high elves left.
>>723967243>>723967328>>723967398After looking at midnight entire plotI rather have Bethesda running Warcraft.>>723976517Before the retarded retcon TBC made because chilton is a faggot who hated the RPG Books curated by metzen.Many High elves survived, only one share of the population followed Kael and joined the legion, and Blood elves HATED Alliance and horde, they saw the alliance as traitors, including their High elf Bretheren, and the Horde as weak for not controlling true power, and both sides also hated blood elves for being corrupt, and the orcs even more because they are just as bad they were under gul'dan and blackhand's thumb.people should read the WoW RPG book someday is better than what vanilla made in backstory.
>>723962512>A court in commiefornia will do something to a European Citizenlel no.
>>723974956Alliance players have always been upset since Blood Elves were added to the Horde, because Blood Elves were the sexiest race and Alliance players hated it and still do. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DoJd6541FH4Having two separate elf races on the alliance is pretty stupid. Especially when they don't seem to be as unique as the lore would have helped them to be.Blood Elves joining the Horde kind of makes sense. But it was mostly done to have a non-ugly on the Horde.
>>723977190Shenna isn't even European, I believe she's Ukrainian and currently living in Russia. The server itself is in Kazakhstan too lolIt's funny that people genuinely believe Trump is going to call Putin and have him take down a fucking WoW server
>>723977019>people should read the rpg bookNot canon.
>>723977338the server isnt in khazakstan I can tell you that much by my ms, if I had to guess its central europe somewhere
Before>WE WILL CONTINUE THE SERVER REGARDLESS OF THE C&D BLIZZARD SENT US LMOANow>P-PLEASE LET US RUN OUR PSERVER... WE'LL EVEN PAY YOU BLIZZARD-SAMA
>>723977242Blood Elves joining horde made ZERO sense because orcs hated and always despised blood elves for being corrupt fel junkies serving the burning legion in TBCBlood elves were added because 1-Samwize threw a flip when he learned that Pandaren was chosen to be the Alliance Race2-The lazy retards didnt want to upgrade their existing female orc, dwarf, undead and troll models with better faces, something the forums begged when other games had better and more beautiful versions of those mentioned3-The superstar ego was high, the retards were literally acting as the Lufthansa thieves in 78(if you watched Goodfellas)4-Warcraft 3 was abandoned as the Human Bonus campaign, just goldshire.w3x is what is left of the idea5-The korea and china cope>>723977534Retoilet isnt canon either vulperatrannyAs the books chris goldstein made either with faggot weak males and muh rapist arthas
>>723977019I don't think TBC retconned anything really. Even in the original WoW game manual it says the High Elves became Blood Elves. It really seems to imply most of them became Blood Elves.In the game itself technically there's twice as many High Elves than Blood. But Quel'thalas and Silvermoon and all that is never shown in the original game and it's hard to know which type of elf was suppose to be there at the time. In TBC they decided it was all blood elves.
>>723977567It was listed that their server was in Kazazhstan on their website up until this lawsuit shit happened and they re-did the entire thing. The server location was also identified in the lawsuit.
>>723977975The retail WoW is literally THE canon though. You cant say you dont like it so it's not canon.
>>723978192simply not possible unless you mean the SEA or china servers, khazakstan to western europe is not 30ms
>>723977975>gets reminded that his fanfic isnt Canon>IMMEDIATELY crashes out about retailGrim
>>723967243>pleading mercy to a multibillion dollar companyThis is like asking a bear in the wilds not to maul you to death.
The thing that makes me laugh hardest about turtle wow and ascension is they sell retail model mounts.Like I could argue and simp for your private servers if you were making your own shit to sell.But they arent, its just really lazy
>>723977975Orcs? Everybody hated Blood Elves. I said it kind of makes sense and it does. The Blood Elves didn't leave the Alliance they were kicked out. And the Horde control WoW Lordaeron territory, so that's why it makes sense that if they join anyone it would be the Horde. Otherwise Quel'Thalas is just maybe a total hostile zone. But in TBC it says the Blood Elves joined the Horde for the sake of their own survival. The Scourge is still a threat and they are barely surviving.And it was Silvanus that convinced the rest of the Horde to allow the Blood Elves to join. The Orcs of all people would be willing to give a hated race a chance.
>>723978139the RPG Books were canon to the world until TBC was announced, it was literally their own supplement for the background story alongside fucking knaak books and metzen's own.-Theramore and Stormwind were on bad terms, Stormwind called Theramore and the Western Alliance traitors for leaving when stormwind didnt even know what was happening in War 3, outside word of mouth.-The obvious Thrall's Horde vs Old Horde in EK-The first stories about the titans and their complexes hidden beneath the earth, one being the barrens one, which the RPG map expanded it.-Western Horde and Alliance in good terms but in a neutral stance due to subfactions still waging war, like silverwing and warsong.The thing is is that they made everything non-canon to justify the rape they did with TBC under Tom Chilton as project leader, someone who were old fucks back then and played Ultima and now wow, warned about him since he ruined ultima online with the PVP gear update and made everyone miserable.>>723978139they literally retconned the Quel'thalas peninsula in TBC to look that boxy garbage area because they were too lazy to add 3 different areas and make the sunwell isle as Silvermoon at where quel'danas isnow those retards remade the entire thing in midnight and the new remade area is so big and out of place compared to the rest of the eastern kingdoms that feels like a sore thumb, it is a huge area in a smaller continent.>>723978217>>723978367>>723978564tell us that you play vulpera and blood elf and are seething that your shitty capital is now a neutral zone, while all of you live in a slum.
>>723979508I did not play retail WoW since WOTLK anon. Current WoW is the canon. As Canon as Warcraft 3
>>723979508See >>723978367
>Blizzard is notorious for suing and shutting down private servers >People do it anyway>Nintendo is notorious for suing and shutting down fan games >People do it anyway Is the idea that if you do it enough times they think eventually they'll just let you do it?
>>723979508Blood elves are part of the horde man, I don't know if you got the memo but this is 2 decades old knowledge
>>723979508>you're living off bitcoin and not waging 40+ hours a week to help Mr. RAREMETAL-man acquire more capital???What a fucking stupid dwarf.
>/wowg/ and blizzard interns are on damage control alreadyCant wait for 2026 when the news of Blizzard and Obsidian being shut down by Microsoft happens.Holly Longsdale ruined another game.
>>723979715>Blizzard is notorious for suing and shutting down private serversThe only servers that they "shut down" were Wowscape and Gummy's BC stupidity because they were both hosted in America.>But Nostalrius!Nost devs shut down the server themselves out of goodwill that Blizzard might hire them (they didn't) or consult them on a future Vanilla+ (they didn't).
>>723979715Nintendo is all memes aside fairly chill about fan projects.Literal thousands of romhacks exist.Its the retards that start selling their fan project or demanding donations that get axed
>>723979878>fairly chillthat is an INCREDIBLY loose application of the term "fairly chill"
>>723979859Nostalrious literally gave them their work in the hope Blizzard would release vanilla servers and they did
>>723979952Again:>Nost devs shut down the server themselves out of goodwill that Blizzard might hire them (they didn't) or consult them on a future Vanilla+ (they didn't).Nost devs gained nothing out of the entire ordeal and Blizzard made zero decisions based off fucking Nostalrius.
>>723979878Dude they even shut down games guides on Patreon because they use copyrighted characters depictions
I don't care.Turtlewow was already dead after their """class overhauls""" that turned it into a funserver instead of actually classic+
>>723979946Anon they are easily the company with the most fanprojects and romhacks.OOT alone probably has more than every sony game combined, let alone pokemon.Those never get C&D.Its always retards who start trying to make money
>>723980169>Paid game guidesYea no shit
>>723979508I don't think this is a good response to why Blood Elves joining the Horde is dumb. It makes sense that Blood Elves controlled Quel'thalas and it makes sense they'd join the Horde after being kicked out by the Alliance and after Silvanus invited them to the Horde. Kind of makes sense. They could have remained as just bad guys too. But they weren't exactly monsters, and again, they're surrounded by the Scourge, they need help.And I don't know what you mean by retcon the Quel'thalas peninsula, what do you mean exactly. Like many areas Blizzard originally planned to create that area, they show it on the game manual map, but they didn't finish it until TBC, it didn't exist in the game until then. In fact it technically didn't exist even after TBC because they didn't change the original game map they just added an instance to go to a separate location where they built Quel'thalas so that people who didn't buy the expansion couldn't go there.
>>723980169>Dude they even shut down (insert obvious copyright infringement)
Played Turtle and Bronzebeard.Both are pretty cool and I see why people simp for them.The amount of paid cosmetics running around is comical though.They are absolutely making millions from selling retail mounts
>>723962512fuck blizzard. they don't even have a real Vanilla. They threw away all the code and didn't even try to imitate it, like other servers have done. the game is nothing but the same as should be, like those servers were you grab any gear you want from some npcs, get auto levelled and pick any professions, stats, talents whatever you want. get any buffs, consumes. then just go to any instance you want.cause thats basically all it is. Everything is levelled up to the last patch, were they put in the last instance, Naxxramas. They down-levelled all the dungeons, the other raids, everything down to a dumb level. where it is simple. other private servers tryed mimicing the dungoens difficulty, levels, and mob/boss difficutly that was there before the final 1.12-Naxxramas patch. And they did almost a perfect job. Blizzard done nothijng but throw out a game with 1 patch, the final, nerfing patch, were you waste months on previous content to just slowly have gear leaked to you in simple combat to the final raid months amonths later. SO blizzard doesn't even have the original game, they dont support it and shouldnt have any say so on it. It's bullshit. What they have out now is not, Classic, or Vanilla or whatever. They moved on to the daily gotta catch them all shit that it is now.
>>723980183>nooo dont try to get money for your creation do it for free!!!!
I hope they get Shenna and Crogge to the benches. Alas they are russian scum so wont happen. You guys are fucking retards if you play Shenna or Crogge servers and i have been saying this for a decade now
>>723967768It isn't just fan work if you are making money off it which the troons on turtlewow have been doing for years. If it were just a pserver that doesnt accept donations or have a fucking cash shop (turtlewow has both) then everyone would be on turtlewows side. Everyone calls Skyrim modders faggots for trying to sell their mods but suddenly its ok when private server owners do it.
>>723980858I would even understand if they were selling their own shit.But they are just selling existing wow mounts and transmogs on their cash shop.
>>723979508yea the pvp gear was bullshit and isn't part of the game. The original grind was degenerate as I've seen people call it. Theyve made it simple now and it's basically pre-naxx gear during the 2nd phase of the game. And prior to it, you could get pre-BWL gear through the same -now simple Pvp gear grind. I remember playing it back then, and knew that pvp ruined it. When it came out, dungeon grinding ended
>>723980821Crogge managed to not even get named in the lawsuit.
>>723980730I heard they found the original code for the game, but everyone always says something different about how they made Classic. But also I know on their website they say they had to recreate some textures which doesn't really make sense because I thought that was all saved on the wow client.Is there any evidence the code for the game in Classic WoW is not original patch 1.12 code.
>>723980858They don't even go after other long-running WoW servers that offer microtransactions like Stormforge and Warmane.Why do so many newfags pretend TURTLE WOW is the only fucking private server accepting donations?
>>723981039He will be named in time. Or I sure as shit hope so, fuck that russian scamming scumfuck. I hope he dies to aids
>>723981136I don't like any of the private servers. And I don't like Classic WoW either. And I don't like the private emulators that let you play offline.
>>723981136The admins sell other services too, and they are the only one to do it. Shenna and Crogge have had their hands in every character or gold selling scandal there has been in the private server scene and yet there are mouth breathers like you who will still to this fucking day try to defend both of them. I get it you like the server and want to keep on playing, yet you act like a 12 year old fanboy. They are scum and even as a fanboy you should admit it
>>723980924Even worst it isn't even their designs they are profiting off of.>>723981136They are all gay for doing it and blizzard is targetting them specifically because they currently have the largest playerbase and have been buying ads to shill their tranny server to a broader audience knowing people are looking for a hit of classic+
>>723962512Blizzard really hasn't learned anything from the Dota nonsense.Blizzard and Activision likely lost trillions of dollars after losing the rights to the community-developed Dota mod. Now, they're losing thousands of players to private servers that are far better than the bot and gold seller infested Classic servers. (This also applies to retail, but Blizzard themselves are the ones selling most of the gold.)Putrid company.
>>723980535People will pay literal who devs for fucking cosmetics in a game that's biggest criticism is it's in-game shop?
>>723981039>>723981208He hasn't been crogge for some time, I've had the name crogge saved on Turtlewow for like 4-5 years now. He changed his online persona more than Shenna and Whitekidney after Nost/Esly/Light's Hope shit
>>723981456WoW was not a community mod.
>>723962512This is over a month old. Server's still up.
>>723980084Except you know, make classic again
>>723980084>>Nost devs shut down the server themselves out of goodwill that Blizzard might hire them (they didn't) or consult them on a future Vanilla+ (they didn'tKek. Why would they think they would get hired? They didn't create anything new just showed that there is a market for a classic iteration of the game.
>>723981917community server = community mod
>>723982028Yeah but MadSeason, notorious Runescape streamer, is talking about it now, so it's important.
>>723982972Nice, finally a YouTuber who can tell me what opinion I should have on this subject.
>>723982887You make a server of something that already exists and barely add anything to it to make it new and that mean it's yours now? Dota was an entirely different game with the tools given by Blizzard, this is just WoW with different hats.
>we offer a classic+ experience!>*look inside*>(tbc skills/talents)
>>723982887Blizzdrones knows zero difference about this, these are the same people who hates warcraft 3 custom maps or Warcraft mods in other games and rushes to report and make fake DMCA takedowns claiming "reeeeeeee theft" when blizzard themselves consider "fanart".It seems the retards forgot their own TOS after the entire SFM talk
>>723983241>we offer a video game experience called world of warcraft>look inside>its all trannies and gays
>>723983124Madseason is literally the chillest guy ever
>>723968708Yeah and then they got immensely butthurt when someone made a more popular game than they ever did with it, history just keeps repeating itself lol.
>>723983435And people told them to fuck off because it wasn't their product. This one is.
>>723983582>This one is.They wrote the code for turtle? No? Then it isn't, simple as.
>>723983641Turtle stole all their assets from Blizzard. Just become some methed out code monkey got it running with the coding equivalent of duct tape doesnt mean it was "work"
>>723981080it's 1.12 code but there was different stuff that got nerfed as classic progressed from 1.0 up to 1.12. That stuff is missing. they only have the 1.12 patch and all the nerfed content which they make you play through with pretty much just all the last raids walled off from you. Some private servers have tried to emulate it, from old videos of the game from back then during those patches, guessing what mobs where nerfed, what mobs were removed. and added it back. NOtice how noone hardly ever fails MC? Yea that wasn't exactly true, people would get to ragnaros and get stuck in a submerge stage, or the boss with the 2 dogs next to him, you'd have to get out to drop stacks, which is in the game but its so simple its not even hardly a thing. You might have noticed tho after that fight you have to stop and eat or heal.. those are the stacks which suprises me noone is hardly aware of and sometimes people randomnly die because of it.
>>723983793then Warcraft 3 and starcraft stole too retard, as diablo community to make modsYou faggots just want to eat blizzard sponsored shit
>>723983241The whole game has been changed. Every "Classic+" server and even ones that don't consider themselves that always modify the game instead of just adding to it. If they just added new areas and items it would be "+" but instead they change spells, they change experience points, change animations, they change monster damage and health, anything they can get their grubby hands on they will change and pretend to be game developers. They have no mother-loving respect for the game.All they have to do is finish the unfinished areas. Which does also eventually include Outlands and Northrend, and then something for Catacylsm, since those were the only three expansions originally planned and hinted at from the beginning and the story really concludes there. They clearly ran out of ideas after that.
>>723984010Bro what the fuck are you trying to even say holy ESL
>>723984010>Blizzard stole their own assetsRetard.
>>723983932Well of course there's changes between the patches. What do you want to do? How should this game exist in a solid state. You have to pick a patch number. I guess you could combined things and make a version that you like.And if they have the code for 1.12 then they probably do for every other patch. So in 50 years when it's all out into the public people can make whatever version they want. And people will indeed still be playing original WoW in 50 years.
>>723981310What was the point of your "I want people to guzzle AAA excrement" post?>>723981845Holy fucking shit you dumbass retard, their REAL NAMES were listed in the court orders along with their aliases. Crogge wasn't mentioned at all whatsoever. You don't go into a courtroom and only be referred to by your online moniker.>doesn't read or review anything about the lawsuit>typical dumbfuck newfag who believes the world operates off of their personal opinion
>>723963321why is it okay to make money off of someone else's property when a ship of theseus-like company does it? nobody at nu-blizzard worked on vanilla WoW. nobody at nu-blizzard had the slightest idea of the intention behind early WoW, or the RTS games. they're disrespecting the IP with each commiefornian propaganda infested patch they put out
>>723984758UMMM THEY'RE A MULTIBILLION DOLLAR GIGACORP THEY CAN DO NO WRONGSTOP BADMOUTHING BLIZZARD
>>723984757I didn't make whatever post you're saying I made. I'm just letting you know I hate World of Warcraft.Excited for WoW 2 though. I'm going to make a crippled human female, Freedom Fighter class, and destroy the corrupt Cathedral of Light.
>>723981456i doubt a single suit currently at blizz was even present to remember the dota incident. after that period of time a few years back where they shot themselves in the foot with a new PR disaster every few months the company was like a revolving door
>>723984758Why can't I make my own Marvel movies?
>>723984758Meds, now
>>723984972All you'll make is the same fucking posts saying you hate WoW in a WoW thread for the rest of your life.
>>723984972Warrior talent tree paths: Anti-authoritarian, Protestor, Defender (of women's rights)
>>723985168because you don't have a writer, a film or a special effects crew
>>723985319I have the existing films I can just edit to make what I want.
>>723984972>Excited for WoW 2WHYWHY WOULD YOU EVER BE EXCITED FOR WOW 2IT'S GOING TO BE MADE BY THE SAME FUCKING COMPANY THAT RUINED WOW 1WORSE YET, THE ENGINE IS GOING TO BE MADE BY A BUNCH OF INDIANS AT BEST, DEI HIRES USING AI TO VIBECODE AT WORSTWHY DO YOU RETARDS THINK THE PROBLEM WILL JUST MAGICALLY GO AWAY WHEN THE PROBLEM IS THE COMPANY ITSELFI AM SO SICK OF DELUDED BLIZZTROONS
>>723985495It doesn't fucking exist sperg.
>>723985996and that's a good thingbut seriously though, how would you feel if you didn't have breakfast this morning?
>>723962512I mean this is what they should have expected for building their castle on a sand foundation. This could have happened at any time.
>>723984758Good post, fuck wallstreet and fuck jews.
>>723962512FAFO
>>723981825Of course
>>723985495Wow 2 is CATA, wow 3 is pandaland ect.
>>723967328nublizzard is a puddle of diarrhea but these retards are fucking delusional if they think their private server is in any way comparable to private servers for EoS'd MMOs or mods for one-time-purchase games, rather than the direct competition they actually arehell in at least one of these cases the "community ecosystem" they're comparing themselves to ended up doing more bad than good to the product (Mojang was forced to bring out their lawyers and change the EULA because hypixel jewed their server to high heaven)
>>723984374and you dont see no difference in phase releases? Those raid releases were patches. ...I dont know maybe you ca put it all together now and figur eout what the fuck im saying.
>>723962512They won the glider lawsuit on copyright grounds with the assfucktarded argument that glider was making unauthorized copies of Blizzard's intellectual property within your own computer's RAM. I wouldn't be surprised if they win this one too.
>>723981456seriously, what the fuck is blizzard doing?>kills SC2 custom maps by claiming it as their property, so no one can make GARFIELD SLAMJAM and have it be featured, because they don't own it but want to own ALL MAPS and MODS so they can sell it as a game later>kills WC3 community by dumping on them with a terrible remaster that forces you to update and ruins your actually functional game>kills WoW community by ruining the story, you LITERALLY CANNOT get a functional storyline out of the game, you can't start from the ACTUAL beginning, you can't play any of the previous patches, you can't play any of the previous content that was timed, you can't do events that were cool and special but 1 time only, you miss out on so much story because they refuse to let you fucking play itactual fucking retards
>>723989181No, you don't understand what I'm saying. What game do you want? You don't want World of Warcraft 1.12, so what do you want?
servers like turtle wow make blizzard seethe because a bunch of autistic neets can make a vision of classic WoW far superior to all the californian liberal retards that get paid a fat salary to do nothingits just a massive statement on how poorly run a game studio like blizzard is run. these people are working with zero budget yet can create creative custom content easily but a multi billion dollar company can barely produce something like SoD which was literally just asset flips and copy paste spells from other expansions and they complain about not having the dev resources to do more with.and this is with a cash cow IP that has been one of the top streaming game on twitch for like 5 years. absolutely pathetic.
>>723990157>a vision of classic WoW far superiornothing says superior like turning sub rogue into a meme support spec that does less total damage than tanks (mind you, these are vanilla tanks that do dogshit damage, not retail tanks) and filling up some unused flatter section of the mountains into yet another quest hub for fetching bear assesLMAO
>>723974956Yes. I fucking hate horde architecture and you are forced to interact with it because retards at blizzard were too incompetent to make every race capital fully functional.
>>723990813congratulations, you are the target audience for void elves
rip shagu
>>723990813The Horde stuff looks fine to me. I don't think the Horde has less work put into it because of any bias or definitely not incompetence, a lot of things in WoW existed just because of lore reasons so it was all uneven.Orgrimmar isn't as detailed and rich as Ironforge and Stormwind because when the game starts Orgrimmar was just built. Orcs have only been on the planet less than 30 years. Later Blizzard tried to fix unevenness. Then starting in Catacylsim they just went full on into Horde mode and the Horde became the most important faction in order to make up for the original game.
>>723991327Why does my undead have to live in a mudhut then?
>>723991051Void Elves are fine, stupid as fuck idea thrown in out of spite, but honestly fine. What isn't fine is retarded grind you are forced to do to unlock them at least back in legion and bfa, no idea how it is now.>>723991327It is not about effort, it is about style and music and atmosphere, Orgri fucking sucks sucks, doubly so after cata, but you are fucking forced to be there.
>>723989626ok thats what im saying it is. 1.12 wow. Its not the vanilla experience. Thats not vanilla, it's just the last few months of the game. They don't even do vanilla so why do they claim they own it?what i want is basically i dont care about talent changes so much as it was from release, but the mobs, bosses, dungeon changes, want that back. the pre-nerf shit, and do as the patches did as they came OUT. fuck just like i originally said and what i want is, what i was saying is they dont do vanilla and i said what-it-is. just 1.12 with everything else nerfed. so why spend time grinding that except for the roll of the dice loot pinata chances every week for months on end until you get to the real difficultly of the game. which then blizz wants to speed through on these re-releases and jump into the next stupid shit which isnt even wow (tbc) anyway. and hte people who like this seems to wan tto speed up to retail, where they do dailies and all that stupid cosmetic shit. which is gay and is why i dont play it.
>>723992147wtf? is this supposed to be durotar?
>>723992147Because Forsaken players don't chimp out enough to get their own house building assets like Night and Blood Elf players do.Should've chimped out more for Undead broski
>>723971091Ascension doesn't taunt Blizzard on Twitter.
>>723992147Because they didn't want to make a comically evil house that looks like a dr. wily fortress covered in cartoon skulls and pools of bubbling green slime and undead just aren't allowed to live in or build human dwellings but sad and run down any more
>>723992404It's not radioactive orange is it you fucking retard.
>>723993104that doesn't sound like a "no".nu-blizzard has taken so many shits on the legacy of the game i would believe if they turned durotar into a lush jungle overnight
>>723979715If you live in Russia or similar type of country, it doesn't matter. They don't give a shit about global intellectual property laws, won't comply with monetary damage rulings or asset seizure, won't extradite for criminal offenses, etc.
>>723992194You think it sucks. And no one is forcing you to go to Ogrimmar. We don't want you there. Screw HKs you know it's on when I start sending kiddies back down to Gnomergon, waiting at the GY for your ass to respawn. They start screaming in South Shore trigging alarm.
>>723989530ok and then what happens? the owner is russian she can just ignore everything blizzard tries
>>723992147You expect Blizzard to put fucking EFFORT into their games?They are a part of a corporation sucking the last goodwill from the company by sheetprinting a bunch of similar looking stuff and being uncreative retards more focused on genitals then wars because it's full of California faggots wanting to ruin other game franchises and Blizzard is a revolving door for 'talent'You could have put Troll wooden designs with goblin tech to make attack choppers for the Horde to show the growing tech. But nah, They made a similar looking tank model but wood versus the Alliance so it shares the same skeleton and animations to 'reduce workload'. They will shill the Orc archtiecture because they don't want to design creepy mansions 'yet' (That is for the next expansion to milk the trannies for more money)Blizzard will continue to remain blind to this because they want to make profit over fun vidya and will ban anyone who points out how much they fucking suck
>goblins can't be healersfug
>>723992626unironically would have been kino
>>723992147artist budget is better spent making another 90 dollar dinosaur
>>723967243>if they went to the open letter i kneel pls let me license >you just know where the road leads >its never been more over
End-game wow: https://youtu.be/vNC1lpEctGQ?si=pYS27mk-IaMzaAOn&t=613
>>723967243Kek blizzard might license you a game you already made OFF their IP if it was of no cost to them, they got most of the profits and the quality improved WoWs perception. But they will never ever in 1000 years let you make something from their own asset library and engine. Many games get a license agreement this way, by peddling a game they already have in the pipeline and saying “we can put a Star Wars skin on it for you”. It’s a smart move if you can’t afford marketing
>>723967243nostalrius-like "let's willingly submit to the megacorp who hates our guts, they're DEFINITELY offer us a job" energy
>>723962512Whatever happens I only hope Blizzard eats shit. I know there are some scummy private servers, but if any private server is actually trying to make the experience of playing WoW good again, something that Blizzard is incapable of, then I wish them the best.
>>723962512isn't it hosted in russia and mostly played by chinks?being legally untouchable by the westerners is like the only upside of living in a pariah state
>>723999870Chinks have their own servers. Spics too.
>>723999870CRINK
>>723968017Ascension did the same for longer, but blizz hasn't done shit against it, yet.
