And her name is Amy Hood, CFO at Microsoft. Her "accountability margins" goal of 30% across the board have caused layoffs, cancelled projects, price hikes among others. The report Brad Sums reads from is from Bloomberg, but it's behind a paywall.Link to youtube video here: https://youtu.be/VstEw6blWLY
Here's what Amy Hood looks like. Anyone can search it on Google, but still.
>>723997690Here you go, OP.https://archive.is/20251023125115/https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2025-10-23/microsoft-pushes-xbox-studios-to-hit-higher-profit-margins
not my problem. stop spamming this shit that belongs to biz or somewhere else
>>723997690The reason Xbox is dead is because Phil thought it was a great idea to release all of their games on PC, release their first party games day 1 on a $1 subscription service, stop giving a shit about a video game's quality, didn't give a shit about hardware uniqueness in the console or controller, and trying to buy up the entire industry with leaked emails and court documents showing Phil wanted to hostilely takeover both Nintendo and Valve while buying up the entire industry despite the current buyouts being too much for their leadership. The bastard even went as far as to try to forcefully buy ABK when the sex allegations dropped the price of ABK. Get Phil's dick out of your mouth, OP. Phil Spencer killed Xbox, not Amy Hood.
>>723997690Here's a crazy idea, make games with 50 person teams for less than $10,000,000 over 2-3 years and stop betting the farm on boondoggle 5-year $500,000,000 projects.
>>724000271This, it can even be less than that
>>723997690buy an ad>>724000271>>724000798check the archivethat's among what's been suggested internally to help them meet the goal
>>723997690fuck off brad you got 5000 views you dont need more stop shilling
>>724000963Good
>>723997690How is this a bad thing? Firing more of these adult daycare retards is based. Stop wasting money on literal faggotry.
I always hated xcucks but it’s not good for the industry that xcuck is dying.
>>724001754Based. Pajeets typing into an ai to make games is the future.
>>724001754Microsoft may be better publishers than they were hardware developers, hope Sony is next.
>>723997690Based
>>724001965>The only choice is faggots or pajeetsNo, and that being your immediate excuse says a lot.
>>724001927How so, Xbox has been a cancer to the industry >>724000027? I want Sony to fuck up so they can go third party too because >>724001992. Only Nintendo and Valve should be the major hardware companies of gaming since they're actually gaming companies that give a shit about gaming. Microsoft and Sony don't and would be better as third parties so then Microsoft Corps. and Sony Corps. can be less involved in game development. Smaller is better.
>>724000271Didn't work for Square Enix when they tried it.
>>724002280They didn't try it lmao. Oh here's part 2: STOP MAKING FUCKING WOKE GAMES MADE FOR WOMEN. Here's a crazy idea, people who play RPGs are 80% white straight males.
>>724002696>Here's a crazy idea, people who play RPGs are 80% white straight males.No, the solution is something else! Try literally everything else except that! That can't be the answer because... it just can't, okay?!
>>724002696Going to add to this, STOP PUTTING WOMEN IN CHARGE OF VIDEO GAMES, ONLY STRAIGHT WHITE MEN AND STRAIGHT JAPANESE MEN SHOULD BE IN CHARGE OF GAME DEVELOPMENT!
>>724001992>>724002245Sony is next. Gaystation 5 is a failure and theyve been sending all of their games to PC
>>724001965So long as they're using a chink AI and not some jew AI that will go full Hal 9000 when you prompt "mildly attractive woman"
>>724000027Nobody gives a shit about 'hardware uniqueness'.Console requirements have been an albatross around the neck of gaming since the first multiplat games way back in the 90's. Dreamcast and PC games were held back by the PSX, and when GPU's started getting very powerful in 2003, we were still held back by the capabilities of the PS2 and Xbox.Fuck consoles. The death of the Xbox and Playstation isn't coming fast enough.
Wtf is an accountability margin and why doesn't xbox just say "fuck off" and do their own thing?
>>723997917>HEY YOU GUYYYYYS!!!
Xbox just needs to go back to exclusives and chasing the dudebro crowd. New IP called Face Puncher where you walk around in a grimy modern city and punch people in the face. Very detailed slow mo shots of busted noses and shattered teeth. You get points for how badly you fuck up faces. Xbox. Face Puncher. Thank me later.
>>724003207that's a good point, actually. next time my boss tells me to do my job i'll just tell him to fuck off, should work out great
>>723997690>accountability marginsI dunno what that means. Is it line must go up by 30% each year?
>>723997917CapitalismAmerican 4chan users will decend this.
>>723998095Thank you based archive poster!
>>724003207>Wtf is an accountability marginInternal term for a profit margin, apparently.>and why doesn't xbox just say "fuck off" and do their own thing?That's the sort of thinking that gets you fired and replaced. When board members say jump, you jump.
>>724001965you think they fire the useful autistic engineers who actually make stuff happen?
>>724003078God, I can't wait>>724003151>Nobody gives a shit about 'hardware uniqueness'.Fuck you, that's what made exclusives great and worth buying for console and PC. When Xbox killed that, their exclusives became as soulless as them, that's why they're third party now. Fuck Xbox for ruining this, fuck PlayStation for getting lazy and following through with it as well.>The death of the Xbox and Playstation isn't coming fast enoughI agree, this shit needs to be sped up, these two fuckers have got to go, pronto.
>>723997917She was a qt in her college years I bet
>>724003493In short, revenues must exceed costs by 30%. Not exactly, but just to give you an idea.
>>723997917I wonder if she has a nice bush. I’d bury my face in it if so.
>>724003546They where all fired years ago. Why bother having some weirdo around that costs 500k a year when you could hire a 100 grad students for that price?
>>724003776
>>724003570>Fuck you, that's what made exclusives greatAnon, the Xbox huge was literally a PC. It had a pentium 3 and and while it *did* have a bespoke GPU it was horribly outdated in three years.Modern consoles require expensive hardware and it's cheaper if as little of it is bespoke as possible. The price point matters because nobody is buying a console for more than ~$600USD. This means that if the hardware is too good, they have to sell the thing at a loss and try to recoup the cost through store fees and publishing costs, running into competition with Steam, GoG, and EGS.
>>723997690Every single decision a company makes that’s bad for the customer is good for the shareholder. Once Dodge V Ford is repealed, companies can start putting the customer first again.
>>724004221So, what you're telling me is that it would have just been better if Xbox didn't exist? I'm fine with that.
The fuck do CEOs even do? To me it seems like they have absolutely 0 idea of the companies they're in charge with and it seems like they'll just force whatever the monetization experts tell them to onto their products.
>>724004230>Once Dodge V Ford is repealedLolLmao even
>>724003207They're woke so you can't say "profit" or you'll trigger the antifa communists that you ushered into your company.
>>724004384They oversee and receive reports from their direct underlings (Other officers/chiefs), and disseminate general guidances for the direction of the company. After a certain size this is meaningless because you're completely unable to disseminate a message from someone who is separated by 15 levels of bureaucracy from you. No one takes it seriously because you don't even exist to them.
>>724004497So in other words. The CEO of big companies sit around and do nothing all day while getting paid billion dollar bonuses no matter what the company does.Just learned that the CEO of Google Search is the guy that managed to run Yahoo from a 90% monopoly into a 0% dead company.Why the fuck would you hire a guy that has proven to be this fucking shit at his job?
>>724003493>must make 30% more than costs every year>if you don't do that, sell shit/fire people until you do>repeat until your business dies because you gutted it, but at least it looks good on a spreadsheet for a bit>good job, your pinhead shareholders clap like seals
>>724004785>Why the fuck would you hire a guy that has proven to be this fucking shit at his job?Early Life
>>724004785It’s called failing up and happens all the time. Look at U.S. politics and Hollywood. You could make nothing but flops and still get promoted or given major projects to oversee.
>>724004916You forgot>Make yourself a golden parachute when you inevitably resign/get canned
>>723997917That face gives me an "uncanny valley" reaction.
>>724003207You clearly never held a real job before.
>>724004785Because his job is to suck up to shareholders and make line go up the way they like, company long term future is literally irrelevant. As much as everyone rightfully shit on ceos they are extremely good at doing just that.
Microsoft's moves make sense. They were desperate and dumpster diving buying anything they could to try to get anything going, but now they have a stable of extremely profitable cash cows mostly thanks to the Actiblizz purchase but also stuff like Minecraft. It's time to purge off as much of the dead weight they've accumulated over the years as they can and refocus. It sucks for a lot of the devs, but they also had a free ride for longer than they otherwise would have and didn't use that borrowed time to deliver.Microsoft's biggest failing seems to just being completely unable to deliver on their big vanity projects. There's no excuse for Halo to be in the state it's in, or to waste so much money on something like Perfect Dark before icing it. That said, from a business standpoint just writing a check for incredibly successful live service devs put them in a much more secure position going forward than Sony. Microsoft can burn live service profit to fail on their vanity projects, but Sony is burning the development of their vanity projects to also fail to get live service going. They're still holding strong as the de-facto peddler of other peoples' games, but it's an inherently more tenuous position because they only really have ground to lose over time there and it's outside their control.
>>723998095This sounds like we're going to be getting smaller games (or at least games developed with smaller budgets...and thus smaller teams).
>>724005259Sounds like the economic system that promotes shit like this should be demolished.
>>724005616that's capitalism baybee
>>723997690So the "macroeconomic developments" or whatever was "our CFO said we need to make a 30% profit so we're doing that instead of risking getting fired". Why not be upfront about it? Everyone already knew something internal was happening since apparently none of this was happening to Nintendo, PlayStation or anyone else except Microsoft with Xbox. They could just say that due to "the value and talent we have accumulated at Xbox" or something.
>>723997690>over the past two yearsxbox has been absolute trash for at least 10 years
This is not surprising at allwas anyone actually surprised at the downsizing? Xbox as a brand has been FAILING overtly for 2 straight generations, and their big gamble (game pass) decided to for some reason invest in cloud streaming that nobody uses.I'm more surprised they didn't just cull the brand entirely after the series s/x debacle where third parties were privately telling them that they would have to stop developing for xbox if they demanded multiplayer parity between s/x, and what happened instead is they just kept making ps4 releases so now MS is fucking fourth place.
>>724002971shut up you ugly virgin. all those woke games you despise had white male directors
>>723997917The eternal frumpy white woman
>>724004384They're the fall guys who have to suck big shareholder cock
>>723997690i mean you spend 80bil on acquisitions you should at some point be able to make a profit...
>>724006234not when you put all those acquisitions out for "free" day 1.Until they make day 1 titles an ultimate gamepass only thing, and just have the indies and like 1y+ titles on regular game pass, they'll never make a profit with it.And they won't ever do that, they keep stuffing it full of stupid fagshit no one wants like fortnite subscriptions.I gotta be honest, I thought in some lofty back part of my head that they might do a WoW sub as part of ultimate if it got a price increase.But not fucking fortnite.What a WILD decision.
>>724005991Casually going to ignore the "straight" part of that post?
>>723997690I'll bet Obsidian going for just good enough and "mild success" games like Avowed makes a whole lot more sense now. Not such a dumb move now is it?
>>724006234Tell that to Star Wars snapped neck
>>724005571In terms of Halo, Microsoft is pushing both singleplayer and multiplayer as separate games. The singleplayer costs less to make while also starring Master Chief. Halo's multiplayer, in my eyes, no longer has any legs to stand on. Project Ekur is its test for multiplayer, I'm sure the beta may start off well because of Xbots that want their Halo fix, Halofags on Steam trying to blow it up, and PlayStation players jumping on board to see what Halo is all about, but if PC and PlayStation players don't like what they play in the multiplayer, then I can see the final Project Ekur failing in 2027 and with that failure, I can see Halo becoming a singleplayer-only series starring the Master Chief.
>>724005610So, for Halo, that means singleplayer-only Halo games starring Master Chief and a multiplayer-only free-to-play live service Halo game.
>>724005991Were they STRAIGHT?
>cuckbox thread where cuckbox is rightfully getting shat on>turns into "OH YEAH WHAT ABOUT SNOY HOPE SNOY IS NEXT SSSNNNOOOOOOYYYYYYY"
>>724006978they have halo infiniteare they making ANOTHER multiplayer game? Did they ever even fucking fix btb in infinite? I was having so much fun, playing every day then they broke btb right before christmas and I just never came back lmao
xbox is done anyway, whomst cares
>>724006692No because Avowed costed them alot of money to make and they didn't make it back yet because of a retarded as fuck woke director went and said the game is for woke people only and everyone else should fuck off and not buy their game.
>>724006692obsidian understood the assignment of making straight to goypass dogshit, something ms can point to and say "look, here is one of the 72 turds we gonna drop every year" to pretend like it has value
>>724007864You late to the party, they killed Infinite's 10-year plan because the Slipspace Engine was a shitshow. They shifted to UE5 while also using some heavily modified blam! code for the future Halo games. Makes the games easier, quicker, and cheaper to make while making it easy to port to PC and PlayStation and possibly Switch 2 within the year after or two years later. Halo Infinite died when Phil Spencer's era of Xbox died.
>>724008242That door's closed now from the gamepass changes
>>724001992their hardware is great though?
>>724008343Given that their first party games looked and played better on PC and PlayStation, I would say, no, it wasn't great at all. Those ports should have broken out of the gate. Microsoft not even giving their hardware, which includes their controllers, exclusive features is why they ended up easily going third party.
>>724008343They fucked up hard on the series s memory config.
>30% marginsurely nu halo and fable will succeed at this because microsoft is such a well managed company.
>>724008334I don't think so. For PC users, Gamepass is $16. For everyone else, if they want Day One they need to pay $30 a month. Still not a bad deal all things considered, but the removal of Day One on the other tiers certainly didn't make things better. They just need to update their marketing promotions to say "Day One on Gamepass Ultimate" instead of just "Day One on Gamepass" to eliminate confusion. The games will end up on "Gamepass Premium" but after about a year I think.
>>723997690Xbox is just a failure from every angle
>>724008923It is objectively a bad deal. Nobody looking at it and evaluating it from a value perspective would willingly sign up for that.
>>724008913>fableI can see that and State of Decay 3 getting canned. Both are costing too much money to make, plus they're woke shit anyways.
>>724008285I mean I stopped paying attention to it, like I said after the single player came out and btb got obliterated I just stopped even paying attention to it. Go figure.
>>724000271>50 people >$10 million budgetTrue cost of an employee is 1.25-1.4x base salary, and that's before we get into any super specialized equipment they may need to do their job (nvidia 5000 or 6000 pro Blackwell cards that cost nearly $10k a piece, etc.). Software engineers can currently make $150k+/yr. Unless you're making a little mobile game with a 6-month development cycle, your budget is woefully short.
>>724009081>It is objectively a bad dealSubjectively it is. It may not be for me, but there are people who look at the amount/type of games on there, find that enough of them interest them and they play more than 5 games a year. Not only that, but there are likely games on the service they might end up trying, not expecting to like, and then realizing they may enjoy it which wouldn't have happened otherwise. So for them, it's not a bad deal and I can see the value. Also not a terrible deal for fairly casual players. Instead of paying $70 for Ninja Gaiden 4 as an example, try it for $30 that month instead and then have access to the other games also on the service. I don't think it works quite as well for a game like Silksong since that game litearlly just cost $20, so that's an easy pickup on GOG, Steam, eShop, PlayStation Store or Xbox store or wherever. It's when it gets to the bigger titles that cost $60 and $70 minimum that the value comes in. Even for the "cheap" people who don't want to spend $50 on a game or $40 being something that stretches the rubber band.
>bought xbox 360 a few days ago>expect games to be pretty expensive now>all literally $1 - 3 for the big name games>even obscure exclusive shit like lost odyssey is only $10how long until 360 retro autism collectathon kicks in ?
>>724013067It depends, really. If MS is serious about setting up their xbox/360 emulator in the near future, they'll stay cheap pretty much forever except games that only have physical releases (very few, desu). If they fuck up and the emulators don't come, about 4-5 years. Less if the "new xbox" is just a UMPC and not actually an xbox.
>>724009334Nobody pays software engineers 150k except for coastal amerimutts. Half that price.
So how fucked are Xbox's studios that aren't Mojang?
>>724013206i wouldnt even consider xbox / 360 emulation support that great.the entire reason i bought a 360 is because im dissapointed in the games available on modern platforms, they dont even have shit like ninja gaiden black available.im just surprised how cheap they all are, a lot of original xbox games are also surprisingly cheap.for less than $100 you can get some decent shit.
>>723997917Would
>>723997690>>723997917based white queen firing all the DEI HR troons.
>>724005610> Premium high end curated experience.Yeah, something like Starfield.
>business is failing because it hasn't invested enough to be unique or competitive>"I know, lets gut every department and force them to cut even MORE corners!"Capitalists really should be shot. Is there any reason for this other than to try and temporarily bump the stock up so that their finance buddies can dump?
>>724010046yeah but it is annoying not to own the games. You end up paying 30$ to try some games multiple times. And at some point you realize that you spent quite a lot on gamepass and ended up with nothing. This feeling even exists for me already and I only paid for like 2 months and the rest was 1$ trials. They dont really have enough games that you would want to play consecutively, you generally only sign up to play 1 game that comes out.
>>724013067It already has for most rare games and known games. Remember the "hit titles" that "everyone loves" will always be cheap.If you want Magna Carta 2, sooner rather than later. It is a "known item" because it has the same art director as Stellar Blade. Wartech, a fighting shmup, super unique, should also be on your soon list.Culdcept Saga has already left the station, but id argue it's worth it's $70ish asking price, I'd argue. Just look at the not hit items you may want before they get more expensive.
>>724013376Most are if they're not considered a Tentpole franchise.
>>724004946Google search guy is indian
>>724013809Phil did this, he could have fixed this but chose to do this >>724000027. Xbox's failure is well deserved. Phil Spencer was only a nice guy in public.
>>724013493Ninja Gaiden black is available on Xbox One and Series.https://www.xbox.com/en-US/games/store/ninja-gaiden-black/c17kks83s9gs
>>724014002it really hasnt in bongland.im talking japanese shit that hasnt been made available anywhere else just sitting at like $5.im tempted to just order a fuck ton of it because the games are all so cheap and jock full of 2007 - 2012 jank.
Place your bets folkshttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ocssUu2UV2U
>>724005616>bro please bro let us do communism I promise it won't be ten times worse and it'll work this time bro I read all the books by a fat bearded neet from the 19th century and it makes so much sense
>>724014559they'll get rid of:>Compulsion>Double Fine>inXile>Ninja Theory>Undead Labs>World's Edgewith Rare on the chopping block if they don't come up with something good.
>>724000271Pokemon ZA cost more than $10 mil to make, people want better games not cheaper games.
>put a woman in charge>company goes to shitevery. goddamn. time.
>>724014676>The only alternative is communismLooks like you have been fully assimilated like a good little bitch.
>>724014860The company went to shit with Don Mattrick, Phil just made it worse. This is Microsoft finally correcting the problem.
>>724010046It's a beyond terrible deal that offers no value. It is objectively bad. There is no one I would recommend it to. No one.
>>724005616I know, when are we finally going to start bombing communist shitholes so this issue can finally be fixed?
>>724002280Isn't it working mostly fine for them? Stuff like Octopath and Triangle Strategy and the Dragon Quest remakes have been well received and couldn't have broken the bank, they're just also doing a bunch of completely retarded shit alongside it that wouldn't work at any budget like Foamstars and the FF7 battle royale mobile game.
>>724000027it was Don Mattick that destroyed it single-handedly. though you could make a case that it was whoever decided to put him in charge to begin with.
>>7240145>inXile>Double Fine>Compusion>Rare>Undead Labs because who the fuck plays State of Decay?>Playground Games after Fable flops, the remnants of which will be smashed into Turn 10 to create Horizon Studios to develop F:H gamesThe unemployment line must grow.
>>724015042yeah okay what is the other alternative you had in mind after you "demolish" the economic system, faggot
>>724015736meant for >>724014559
>>723997690Stop deflecting Phil. You're the fucking head of xbox.
>>724014825I think inXile's next game is going to do good numbers, mostly because against the giant sea of shit that accounts for most of Xbox's forthcoming portfolio, Clockwork Revolution actually appeals to me: Average Joe Gamer.
>>724015365It worked so well that you don't know a single one of the releases outside a couple of larger profile ones.
>>724015971you may very well be right about that, but at the same time it seems like a make or break scenario. if their game flops, then they're kaput. done. over. owarida.
>>724014825Sea of Thieves is carrying Rare and at this point, it's by a threadThey're likely working on a sequel maybe
>>724015518Bullshit, Phil took over and canceled games left and right while closing studios like crazy. While he did a good job removing the TV shit (kind of), he gutted most of their first party forced Black Tusk to change its name to The Coalition, killed their new IP and brought Gears of War from Epic Games just to force The Coalition to make Gears games forever. He gives out blank checks and doesn't care about quality, just quantity which is why Xbox's games started to take a huge nosedive in that after Don left. He's also the most progressive Xbox leader they ever had pushing for wokeness everywhere and forcing it into their games when their studios didn't even want it. Phil even went on record saying he wanted to be replaced by a black woman. Fuck him and his shills. He didn't want to make singleplayer games, he wanted to shift to live-service slop while also trying to hostile takeover Nintendo and Valve. Xbox deserves death especially Phil Spencer's Xbox. Oh, one more thing, he gave up on backwards compatibility without even putting all of their OG Xbox and Xbox 360 first party games on there. Don Mattrick is just a scapegoat for Phil Spencer's fuck ups.
>>724014825World's Edge has Age of Empires, they may keep that for PC alone.
>>724015971Don't be woke, don't be woke, don't be woke
>>724016397not arguing about the fuck ups that Phil did, but Xbox was already destroyed by Don Mattrick. doesn't matter what Phil did in regards to this. he did that to a sinking ship.
>>724004230>Once Dodge V Ford is repealed, companies can start putting the customer first again.That requires massive structural changes to the judicial level
>>724016557I don't doubt that it's going to be at least a little bit woke, but the question is 'to what degree?' If it's got bodytype shite then that's going to be annoying but tolerable. If it interrupts the fun to deliver a conceited, nonsensical lecture? Well, that's a paddlin'.
>>723997690Don't they need to rebuild the prestige of their brand by releasing more games? I would think this would be extremely counterintuitive then since it means less games
>buy a bunch of studios>take away their budgets>force them to lay people off and cancel projects>they don't release anything>your console dies a slow death
>>724014559Safe:>The Coalition>Halo Studios>Mojang Studios>InXile>Obsidian Entertainment (may get the Rare treatment of making only Grounded if Outer Worlds 2 flops)>Playground Games (will get the Rare treatment if Fable gets canned)>Turn 10 (already dead and folded into Playground Games)>Worlds Edge>Bethesda>id>Machine Games>Zenimax>Activision studios>Blizzard>KingsCut:>Compulsion Games>Double Fine>Ninja Theory>Undead Labs>Xbox Publishing>Arkane>any ABK studio that isn't needed
>>724017020And on that note, you know what I would have changed Hardspace Shipbreakers' title to, in light of what the end product was?'Roald Dahl's James and the Giant Fuck-Up'
>>724002245fucking kill yourself tendy, I can play all your games on PC too.
>>724014825No way they drop World's Edge, AoE2 has a thriving online scene on AOE2DE and MS still hosts fairly respectable sized tournaments for it. They have one coming up with a $25k prize pool. There's basically no competition for AoE2 right now in its particular niche. If you want to do online RTS you either play starcraft or AoE2.
>>723997917>real life Lord Hood is killing Xbox from withinCosmic levels of irony and poetic justice.
>>724017624Go fuck yourself faggot, glad Xbox is dying. If Xbox can't compete properly by actually making good fucking games that aren't woke or cost an arm and a leg to make over trying to fuck over the entire industry just to beat a company or buy them out, then maybe I would give the more respect. Never has a company turned me from an Xbot to hating their guts in such a short amount of time. Xbox is worse than PlayStation in every way and that's saying something since I don't even like PlayStation anymore.
>>724002245>Only Nintendo and Valve should be the major hardware companies of gaming since they're actually gaming companies that give a shit about gaming.Yeah that's why the Switch 2 has uhhhhDonkey Kong and uhhhhhhhuhmmmmmNintendo was a-OK with Fates' butchered localization BTW.
>>724018343And what the fuck do your favorite shitty conglomerate companies over at PlayStation and Xbox have, uhhhhhhhhhhhhh...?
>>724001927They hated you too, sony nigger faggot. Now go slurp up your wife bulls cum and play some fifa on your stolen ps5 Raul.
On one hand, it's kind of deservedBut I still don't want a monopoly
>>724018343GOOD MORNING SAAR
>>724014559Phil bought a lot of crap.
>>724015204>It's a bad deal because I think it's bad and I wouldn't recommend it to anyone. >Me Me Me.I've recommended it before and I'll likely do it again depending on their use case and situation. It's not for you and it's not for everybody, but it certainly isn't for nobody.
>>724018983Rare is a coin toss after what happened with EverwildTheir next game is a make it or break it if it even comes out at all
>>724018983>Forza sellslol, which one?
>>724019115No. It is for nobody. Only someone paid to recommend it would intentionally give such bad advice to others.
>>724014559Force Double Fine to make Banjo 3 or drop them. Releasing art slop like Keeper is a waste of money.
>>724019429It's time for Microsoft to bring back their platformers, no more of this try-hard artsy experimental shit. If it barely has any gameplay, cut it before it even gets made. Put someone who knows games in there over Phil Spencer, he's a retard at that.
>>724019393OK, I see what you're doing. I wasted my time responding genuinely.
>>724019429>Force Double Fine to make Banjo 3 or drop them.You wanna know what happens when the valuable people are forced to make something they don't want to make?They LEAVE
Odds of the studios buying back their independence like what Bungie and Toys for Bob did?
>>724000027no reason to buy xbox because it's all fugly westoid gamesthey hate japan, so why even buy one
On the one hand, I get it because they spent so fucking much on Blizzard (reminds me of Disney buying Fox with how much they way overpaid)On the other, their targets absolutely do not have to be that high, they are not hurting as a company>>724013067360s have finally cracked wide open for piracy, that's why.
You can't just keep costing the company millions sitting at home doing your "remote work" chud. Enjoy finding a new job.
>>724018983Forza Horizon is the one that sells. Meanwhile, Turn 10 is washed up and hasn't release a good Motorsport game since 4. The real question is why the fuck did Microshit push Fable on Playground when they have zero experience developing that sort of game. It's almost like they want their games to flop.
>>724020127What studios?
>>724020303See >>724014559
>>724018983Halo Studios will live because Halo dying would bring huge negative PR unless they found a better developer for it (they can't just make a new one from scratch, that's how they got in this mess to begin with)
>>724020035Ok, bye. I'm sure they'll have no trouble finding new funding after making an expensive shitty lighthouse game no one cared about
>>724020181True, Steam and Switch took all of its good games, Xbox should have died years ago, honestly.>The real question is why the fuck did Microshit push Fable on Playground when they have zero experience developing that sort of game. It's almost like they want their games to flopPhil's an idiot. They had a team that could make that type of game and they killed them after Fable Legends. I don't care what people say, Don Mattrick was better.
>>724020432Dude you do not want a new Banjo-Kazooie game if there's no passion put into it
>>724020240If you can have your studios be capable of being more than one-trick ponies, then that's great! Really doesn't seem like it's working, though.
>>724020240>>724020526
>>724020585We don't need a new Banjo game, we got Yooka Re-Playlee now.
>>724000271Shareholders won't like that, they'll be scared. And we must defer to shareholders like we're a bunch of fucking chicken livers and they're the augurs. They're going to talk about these niggers the same way we talk about court mandarins and eunuchs ruining dynasties in the past.>Do we make this worthwhile investment with modest long term gains?>NO I WANT BIG PROFIT I WAN BIG BIG PROFIT PROFIT PROFIT PROFIT REEE GIMME BIG PROFITI'm sure you and I are guilty of it too but everyone apparently wanted immediate fucking gratification ever since 2010 and won't tolerate the slightest wait.
>>724019935You mean shilling. You spent time shilling. I will not let you call that a genuine response.
No wonder they've been fucked.
>>724020723>2010Anon, quick investments with immediate returns has been a thing since the 80s when trading and investing regulations were dropped.
>>724020526Don single handedly ensured PS4 crushed the Xbox brand to which they never recovered. (Well him and whoever decided on the xbox naming scheme.)Phil isn't fit to task but that doesn't mean Don was any less of a failure.
>>724016043it worked so well some of the games started by this exact initiative have received 5 sequels.have you seen how many bravely default games there are?
>>724020585At least it will have gameplay
>>724020891And it's been downhill for American corporate dominance ever since.
Reminder that Microsoft is more lenient on selling IPs than people think as seen by Hi-Fi RushIf AI pops and Xbox dies I can sort of see them making auctions to make up losses (that or get more money to push for AI)
>>724004916>>724005051idgi why would shareholders want temporary profits if it means their investment dies overnight? There's no way they make their money back in the short term to make it worth, unless they plan to sell before a crash, and then rebuy once shit hits the fan.
>>724021046>If*When
>>723997690Just working hard and following your dreams won't get you a 30% accountability margin
>>724020925Mattrick was also hyperfixated on the Kinect which completely screwed the 360 in the latter part of its life, and that way of thinking simply carried over into the X1's initial concept.
>>724015804Just get rid of the Jew and free markets work just fine.
>>724021083Your average shareholder is a complete moron with zero knowledge on how to successfully run a business. You're effectively dealing with parasites that will never be satisfied with anything less than infinite growth.
>>724021083Because they aren't relying on the slow payout of taking a fraction of the profit from their stock ownership like you would if it was an old retirement fund, they want the stock number to jack up so they can dump all their stock for a immediate gain and shuffle their money around, also they don't have physical assets, they just borrow off the value of their stock, and they NEED it to go up to counter the interest of their borrowing.
>>724021371Yeah, look at the ones Nintendo deals with.
>>724000027THE FUCKING RETARDED IDEA WAS BUYING STUDIOS THINKING IT WAS GONNA FIX YOUR VALUE TO THE MARKET WHEN LAUNCHING A CAMPAIGN FOR NEW IPS OR REINVORAGTE OLD ONES
>>724021496So....why didn't they?
>>723997690I'm astounded that Xbox hasn't structured their game department yet with game releases now that they've got dozens of IP's and studios.>1 new Halo every 3 years, 1 spinoff (Halo Wars/ODST/Tactics etc) every 1.5 years using asset flips>1 COD a year rotating between their 3-4 studios that work on them>1 plat former a year made by different studios>cheap indie slop made by B or C teams of studios in order to create new IP and act as filler for gamepass between releasesRealistically if they pace things well enough they could be pumping out like, 10 new games a year with all of their studios with delayed releases across the board.
>>723997917she looks like shes midway into becoming a zombie
>big company>big money>can absorb costs, take more risks and capitalise on successes>10% margins is big money>shrink company>every setback is dangerous>no backing to leverage successes, if there are any since less risks being taken>30% margin is the same or less money than the original 10%>this also destroys the customer experience and your brand continues shrinking as they disappearI think all suits should be shot
>>723997690I'm surprised it took this long for accountability in any of these companies. Anyone making shit that is bad should be accountable. Make the employees pay for their mistakes, not the consumers.
>>724020925It could have recovered, the Xbox wasn't on the same level of in the shitter as Sega was after the Saturn, they could have turned it around easily. Phil shitcanned games, Crackdown 3 went through like 3 devs before it released with everything from the version we weren't shown thrown out, killed all the game studios and games Mattrick had set up to make up for Xbox 360 just becoming a Halo, Gears, Forza, and Fable machine, and then this >>724000027. I don't understand how Phil Spencer, the fake gamer, gets any praise, at this point.
>>723997690>report record profits>cancel projects>slash jobs>increase prices on consumersCAPITALISM BREEDS INNOVATIONCAPITALISM BREEDS INNOVATIONCAPITALISM BREEDS INNOVATION
>>724022742This isn't capitalism, this is communism
>>724022783
>>724022742>>724023118Yeah, just look at all those amazing video games communism produced! Like, uh...
>>724023118Him, I wonder which company caused this, oh right, Xbox. Yeah, I know, EA owned Bioware, but it was Xbox who told these third parties that they need to drop the creative spirit for a corporate structure. I'm pretty sure this was the era of Xbox after Peter Moore.
>>724019148Horizon, not motorsport
>>724021116What comes sooner?The bubble popping and they start to sell Xbox IPs and studios to make up for lost cash or they sell them to pour more money for the bubble?
>>724023580Exactly, Motorsport is dead
>>723997917>woman hits the wall>starts trying to ruin the fun of malesmany such cases
>>724023470Remember when Xbox also normalized patches to fix games, paid online, microtransactions on console...We are richer if we lose them.
>>724023169Soviet directors were world class as were Nazis.
>>724023663I hope they do sell everything off, some of these studios can go independent again, while others will probably get purchased by Chinese or Saudis. Hope Atari buys up some of those IPs while they can sell some of their Japanese IPs to Sega or other Japanese companies. For Sony, I hope they kill all of their western studios sell the IPs that matter that are still dead, outsource their Japanese IPs to Japanese studios.
>>724023745I hate Xbox so much
>>723997690>>723997917>nooooooo it's the CFO's fault and not 15 years of incompetent Xbox leadershipOK Destin
>>724005610You mean Microcuck is going to force devs to use AI to vibe code a whole game in like 6 months and push that shit out of the window?
>>724024562why not both.jpg
>>724023663All going down in a blaze of fire at the same time too quickly for them to do do anything.
>>724024815So....they do or they don't sell?
Reminder, Microsoft hates competition because they are run like a socialist (communist) company. They simply want to destroy the market. Notice, everything went to complete shit when they entered the console market.
>>724013497My guess is wax
>>724018983What are Minecraft fans thoughts on the buyout?
>>724025789Who, eight year olds?
>>724025080Yes.
>>724002245>Valve and SoitendoValve last game was 30 years ago. Their major contribute to game industry was killing physical games and game ownership for gamers.Nintendo is good for toddlers, if you are older than 12 and still enjoy their retarded games you should consider to finally grow up.TL;DRKYS dumb tr00n
These profit margins are horrible no wonder these companies get addicted to the free Fink funny money they aren't getting any otherwise.
>>723997690basedtotal wokie deathcorpochad take over
>>724026238So, you rather a commie company that doesn't know how to compete, and a shitter company that just copies like Sega did when they're out of ideas to run gaming?
Hey what are the odds they'll try to push infinite growth by going for the Indians?
>>724026463Yes, i'd rather companies who produced games and hardwares (not scamtablets) in the last 30 years.
>>724026507This is socialism, dipshit, capitalism creates innovative companies. Microsoft was never this, their commie asses should have been broken up in the 90s. The biggest lie you commies like to tell, is claiming your gay ass socialist policies are capitalist ones. Glad you'll wiped out in the coming years so real video game companies can take back their industry.
>>724026629>he defends the communist MicrosoftKill yourself, comrade
>>724026731>line must go up>This is socialism, dipshitOh my god you right-oids are insufferable. You know your wrong. You have a brain. Use it.Go take a few pol sci classes in community college or something
>>724026731>>724026802>Microsoft isn't a corpo, it's communistWhatever helps you sleep at night while your father molests you.
>>724026731>>724026802>anon has been gaslit so hard he thinks megacorps are communist
>>723997917I think she's more attractive than girls my age, probably isn't as vain too.t. 20yo zoomer
what is with /lgbt/ and /leftypol/ raids these days?
>>724027245But will it be too strange for you to kiss a girl without hot chip breath?
>>724026802Last time i checked it was Valve that seized the ownership of games. PC games used to have physical releases too, ya know?
>>724027401Nah, I would do it
>>723997690This is essentially what happened at Best Buy too so I believe it.
>>724014273jeets and jews are the same culture nepo wise
>>724026916>>724026931>>724027064>>724027467You faggots should compare how Microsoft runs their business vs how a socialist company runs their business, there is some stark similarities. They don't run their business like a capitalist one. They were almost broken up because of this. In a just timeline, their worthless asses would have been broken up. Socialism nationalist, internationalist, or otherwise doesn't work and the shitters that push it should be hung on a tree like a Christmas ornament.
>>724016043You don't need to, that's the damn point. Saturate the niche cheaply, make bank, fund moonshots. That was their MMO in the 90s and early 2000s, got fucked up after the TSW fiasco and then XI making them think that the moonshot could BE the bank-maker, resulting in the mess with XIV.
>>723997690>>723997917Definitely a Randroid, like shithead who blew up Sears.
>>724021083>Double your money in 3 years>Sell before collapse>Move to another companyThey objectively make more money by killing everything they touch
>>724005051and then you forgot>land comfortably in another CEO position of another Fortune 500 company, somehow failing upwards>do it all over againUSA, USA, USA!
>>724027651Godspeed, little bro
>>724000027>Phil wanted to hostilely takeover both Nintendo and ValveI think Phil sees big acquisitions as his career high point. It's not about Xbox, buying ABK and Zenimax is more gratifying for him
>>724003207>why doesn't xbox just say "fuck off" and do their own thing?It's coming from the top this time. The moment Xbox bought Zenimax and ABK, which was one of the biggest corporate acquisitions ever, Microsoft as a whole had to step in. Phil isn't the one in charge now, Satya Nadella is.
>>724015518It was Alex Kipman who really tanked the Xbox brand beyond repair by developing Kinect.
>>724006692lmao what sort of cope is that?
>>724003207Normalfags started viewing "profit" as something dirty/evil, so companies are trying to use differnt words.
>>724004384Make the important decisions. Like the EA CEO deciding to tell the people behind Infinity Ward to fuck off and the Activision CEO deciding to pick them up and thus making trillions of dollars for Activision. This small example shows you how important having a CEO that does smart stuff is and why companies are willing to pay a lot for them.
>>724006692Obsidian is only alive because they are shitting out gamepass filler. Those games are by no means mild successes on their own merits.
>>724009081If you're a shitter who enjoys playing a lot of mediocre games, then gamepass is an amazing deal.
Why are xbots trying to rally some personal army to target the wrong person?Who gives a fuck about Amy Hood. Phil Spencer did all of this.
>>724031127Xbots are as retarded as Snoys.
>>724031127Jez Corden
>>724000271Then you have melties like Pokemon ZA and youtubers making hate videos because it doesn't have path tracing or something
>>724002280That's because Square Enix is fucking retarded. They already died once before with that shitty FF movie and they still managed to avoid wiping out everything with no survivors.
>>724013376I consider Undead Labs to be a literal dead man walking at this point. If they haven't considered making their last two games multiplatform.
>>724014825Undead Labs is pretty much kill if they don't shit the 3rd game out by 2027.
>>724020127If smalltimers like the ones behind the last two Destroy All Humans reboots could do it while Embracer was shooting themselves in the face. Some of the better studios have a shot.
>>724032561When did they bail?Wikipedia says they're still under THQ Nordic
>>724004230stop being antisemitic for fucks sake!
>>724032654>Wikipedia says they're still under THQ NordicYeah but they were still a subsidiary of Embracer. I just realized it wasn't them it was Saber from Space Marine 2 that made the jump over. Once the deal with Saudi crown prince fell through and the Swedes were left with the bag. Funny enough the same towelhead went on to buy portions out of EA not even a month ago so things are really starting to move for the former big dogs.
>>724004230Shut it down
>>724032561The problem with bailing out of the company is that it means sacrificing the IPs you've worked with unless you're able to buy them backI can't picture Rare parting ways with the rest of their legacy nor Double Fine especially how hard it was to get the rights back to their full catalog
>>723997690>Bro microsoft has a trillion dollars they will just let xbox operate at huge losses foreverI remember xbots saying this
Nice...very nice......now lets see Sonys CFO....
>>723998095Ugh Jason Schreier....had to be this asshat
>>724033540That's a major point too because MS is greedy as shit. The companies might not be worth a tin of shit nowadays but their IP could be whored out in the future for pennies. Undead Labs if they ever break off will never get access to State of Decay again because that idea was sold off wholesale when they formed their company initially during the Xbox Live era for indies. You can only imagine the more valuable stuff would be comparable to pulling teeth when it comes to duking it out with their longnosed legal team.
>>724033869>That's a major point too because MS is greedy as shit.To be fair they still sold Hi-Fi Rush just with the condition that the original game can still remain on Game Pass no matter whatGranted they'd probably expect more money for even say Double Fine's stuff
>>723997690microshit employees are so incompetent the only way they drive revenue is by firing people and cancelling everything
>>724002280It did when they actually had the talent 20-35 years ago, and it worked when they let Taro make Autotomato
>>724005610Okay that explains on the insanity of phil saying he wanted more smaller games while nuking Tango gamework the very next day. He was actually following two different opposing guidelines at the same time. Crazy
>>724005610Isn't that a good thing?
>>724038885Mtx riddled shit being the only things that get anything resembling a real budget everything else will be sub indie tier filled with woke propaganda.
>>724003207cool it with the antisemitism
>>724005610BRING IT BACK MICROSOFTNOW IS THE TIME FOR IT TO RETURN
>>724038885The only people left in the industry that know how to make a smaller-budget game is Nintendo. Even the "non-AAA" games that get shat out by other companies are too stripped down and neglected to match what Iwata's ghost shits out every couple of months.
>>724041220Astro Bot?
another retarded woman in charge, simply make fun games, for xbox only jesus
>>724003207>accountability marginBasically how much money you're projected to have leftover after factoring in costs and sales projections.>why doesn't xbox just say "fuck off" and do their own thing?They used to be able to do that. The problem is that whenever Xbox became "big" enough to care about the chairmen at Microsoft HQ decide it's a good time to take control of the wheel for a while and dip their proverbial toes into the gaming market. This time, Xbox isn't "big" enough to about despite buying Activision for billions, so now Microcock is doing whatever they think will offset the immediate costs of that acquisition to start seeing some kind of return on it.
>>723997690Not even Nintendo reaches the 30% mark is she insane?
>>724003078PS5 is their most profitable system yet and it's just passed the PS3 in terms of units sold. So this is just pure cope.
>>724013067Think about investing in having your console chipped. It's cheaper to get another person to service it since it requires special, expensive hardware unlike other console mods, but it's worth it because then you can use your own hard drive and install Xbox Live content for free. It's how I was able to play Ace Combat 6 with all the DLC despite it being delisted.
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>>724024008I sort of kind, kind of think if Rare were to cease (which I don't want to happen) that Microsoft would approach Nintendo for buying the IPs but not necessarily for the reasons the average person who does desire a return would assume.Basically built less on sentimental reasons and more as a bargaining move since those IPs are more valuable to Nintendo than to anyone else simply because Rare's games make up a sizable portion of the N64 catalog If Microsoft wanted to they could force an all or nothing deal onto Nintendo for Rare's entire catalogNow if Nintendo would accept that's not something I'm sure of (honestly I doubt it), they'd likely be more willing to work with whomever would own the IPs next rather than shell out lord knows how much but that still comes at the risk of the next owners being far less negotiableBack to them making up the N64's catalog, if the new owners are less willing they could easily charge Nintendo more for keeping those games on NSO or just terminate the agreement entirely making NSO less valuable as a result Even DK64 would be affected because it can only get re-released if Microsoft plays ball since Jetpac is in the game
Ninja Theory is fuckedEven Tameem left years ago (and he seems happier with his life now)
>>723997690>so we need you to reign in your budget or sell a shitload of copies>this kills the modern dev
>>724041257Not with all the third party licensing for their cameo bots as well as the massive marketing push and Astro-themed """""""""""collectibles"""""""""""" that Sony made for some reason.
Xbox games have been flopping when they give massive budgets to their studios and a free reign. So logically why shouldn't they just trim the fat? It earns them nothing and these studios create nothing of even artistic value. People will say le capitalism bad and line must go up but there's nothing scummy or illogical that's happening here. Why WOULDN'T you axe parts of your gaming division when they make slop like Awoved, Hellblade, Hifi Rush, Redfall and other shit that nobody buys?
>>723997690>how can we increase profits 30%>get rid of all costs>how do we do that?>just stop spending money lolthis is kindergarten-level reasoning
>>723997690Wow, a megacorp acting like a megacorp, unbelievable!
>>724002280Oh when made games with black female protags activism? Wow anon you really are smart
The lengths people are willing to go defending this guy is mental illness tier.
>>724003343I'd buy that right now.
>>724003151>consoles are holding video games back!>how?>THE GRAPHICS"gameplay is king", right?
>>724042657The third parties weren't paid for their cameo bots. They agreed to put them in for free. As for the game itself, it's a AA game in terms of budget.
>>724043250
>>724043368We keep getting better hardware and it's all just used as a clutch for shitty optimized games and squandered on open world skinnerbox shit.Yeah it's the consoles fault a 5090 struggle with Unreal Engine 5 shit.PC fags are delusional idiots.
MS is both incompetent at making games and hardware AND they don't want the xbox brand be strong.
>>724042882just stop spending millions in marketing and HR payroll for women who won’t even do their job.
>>723997690>women ruin everything yet againa tale as old as time
>>723997917>You're fired, dumbass
>>724042438Microsoft is more likely to sell off Rare's IP to Nintendo since they don't care about any of their old stuff unless it's Sea of Thieves.
>>724043873that would be infinitely better than cancelling $200m worth or in-progress projects
>>724033707schreier occasionally writes good articlesa jew clock subverts other jews twice a day or something
>>723997690I don't understand why major developers aren't going all in on small scale, flavor of the month projects these days. A real studio could shit out a game like Lethal Company/REPO/Peak/Megabonk in a month or two. Most of them probably won't succeed but some will and with how cheap development costs will be it'll be worth it in the long run. It'll also allow them to experiment a bit and move away from these cookie-cutter movie games they're all making these days.
>>724031545Why are nintroons so fucking dishonestAll modern Pokémon games fucking dogshit on so many levelsfucking indie games have higher quality control than gamefreak
>>724044416I hope considering the fail of Concord and the success of Astro Bot is a wake up call for Sony.
>>724044123Yeah but they'd approach Nintendo specifically at least at first before approaching others' because of reasons pragmatic specifically to Nintendo making them more plausible to pay whatever price Microsoft wants
>it's another "we can't publically admit that our current predicament is the result of suits meddling but out current predicament is the result of suits meddling" episode
>>724044123They'd only sell Rare's IPs if Rare dies and Sea of Thieves gets shut downHow much money does it still make?
>>724044416They don’t play games, let alone like games.
>>724023663Microsoft aren't going to sell any IPs. They're too valuable - they could whore them out to other studios to make and still get the profit at the end of the day.
>>724045256If anything, they reached this state by NOT intervening. Fucking kindergarten policies on studios where nobody is held up to any scrutiny. Kotick was right.
>>724045350They sold Hi-Fi Rush
>>724028274>You faggots should compare how Microsoft runs their business vs how a socialist company runs their business, there is some stark similarities. They're worker-owned, ran by a trade union, and practice workplace democracy?
>>723998095I don't know what is happening at Microsoft but I do know that "people familiar with the business," isn't good enough attribution coming from Schreier, who had the shit in his article about the ARK devs contradicted in court when he'd used two bitter ex-employees for his sources.
>>724044416Those small indie games are successful because they tap into the actual desires of the market, therefore the real market opportunities.They have a small workforce, with a flat organisational structure, so the decision makers are very close to the audience.If you look at it like an animal, these small devs are a creature that has their nose and eyes close to the grass and so can directly see the freshest grass shoots.The big companies are like a gigantic animal with huge legs and it's head, eyes and nose are far above the ground where their food is. It takes forever for the whiff of tasty grass to reach their nose, then when the smell reaches their dino brain, it takes forever for the neural signal to travel to their legs to move the whole beast to the grass. They therefore only eat shit grass, and are mostly effective because they're so big they can't be eaten by other dinosaurs but they can gobble up little guys. They aren't inherently efficient though.Non-metaphorically, this means they have a large staff with a vertical organisational structure where the leaders are separated by multiple layers of hierarchy from the market research team (the nose and eyes) so they don't get clear signals, and separated from the devs doing the work (the feet) so they don't give clear signals. In such a large organisation, their is a lot of internal competition so only people who are specialised into practicing business leadership will survive to reach the top of the company, and they will then not be inclined to have any interest in their company's industry/audience.
>>724044347Nah, can't be trusted ever.
>>724044975I think the problem is whenever those studios don't want to make small scale games like thatLike imagine if you joined Naughty Dog thinking you'd be working on the next big AAA game only to be stuck on some budget title that hardly anyone is gonna care for
>>724045019Xbox is no longer in charge, they wouldn't care like they did in the past because Microsoft Corp. took over.>>724045267>How much money does it still make?No clue but probably a lot
>>723997917looks half jeet
>>724046204From what I know of Sony's internal teams, they don't receive any orders from Sony on what to make. They have free reign to create what they want, and then pitch it to Sony.So I guess the problem is the studio heads like Druckmann who doesn't want to create a Jak and Daxter style game and instead wants a cinematic masterpiece. Sony owns a lot of studios and it's sad that it's only Team Asobi and Housemarque who want to make games.
>>724045256This should have happened years ago, it's even happening at Sony, their gaming divisions keep blowing money, Sony didn't bother SIE because they were making a lot of money, Microsoft wasn't bothering Xbox because they were making enough money, but when both stupidly misused their funds, Sony and Microsoft came a knocking and were looking to see what the hell was going on, now both were told to fix the problem. SIE and Xbox are fixing the problems but in their own incompetent way. Xbox was always more incompetent than SIE.
>>724004384CEO's don't do anything worthwhile. It's not because the role isn't useful but because 99% of CEO's are utter trash and have the job thanks to nepotism or politics and not merit.For a competent CEO look at musk. He's a fucking retard but he knows how to run companies. It's like his autism prevents the snakes and backstabbers and two faced liars from being able to gain a foothold so everyone he keeps at the top is basically an engineer/autist like him and shit actually gets done rather than endless meetings and cocktail parties
>>724044975It was, there's rumors that if anymore western games fail, Sony is dropping the west and shifting to Japanese made games, whether that means through outsourcing to Japanese third parties or creating first parties for this, I do not know.
>>723997690>The reason for Xbox's recent decisions revealedNone of this shit matters>AI boom>Retards at microsoft go all in>Xbox as a branch has always been a blackhole on funds and they recently signed off on the actiblizz shit which added more of a financial stress>AI boom requires more money so they can't get away with a (former) pet project of bill gaytes continuing to rape the company's financials>Finally the xbox branch has to deal with microsofts ghoulish growth / revenue goals that it only hit 10 years ago during the 360 eraXbox has always been a piece of shit outside of one period (360 era) where it profited, relaxed on it's laurels assuming it would stay on top and not have to bend over to the rest of the company.The leadership for it has always been useless.
>>724046407Druckmann cancelled Jak 4 because he realized it wasn't what fans would've wantedIt looked liked what Naughty Dog wanted to make but it was also something that would've alienated fans of the seriesLook I don't think Druckmann is a saint or that Naughty Dog is this perfect company but I wouldn't want them to be working on something they didn't want to make period
>>724046660This
>>724000027Basically this.
>>724046335So you think they'd just cut straight to selling to the Saudis and Chinese then?
>>724047219Probably the major franchises without a developing studio, they would definitely sell Blizzard to either the chinks or the gooks, Activision will probably go to the Saudis.
>>724047354Yeah but this conversation was about Rare's
30% profit margin just means they are seeing you the shit for 25% too much.
>>724047373Small stuff, they won't sell to the chinks or saudis because those hold less value.
>>723997690>Your bosses are a bunch of souless money worshipping Indians and ladder climbing Karen'sWhat a fucking nightmare.
>>724014559Everybody besides playground, obsidian, mojang and the coalition will die in the next few years, I'm not even sure about the coalition since gears is stale as fuck. I suspect at that point MS will just exit entirely and whoever remains will look for an IOI style move to become independent.
>>723997690I don't think that woman realizes how insane of a margin 30% profit is in the videogame industry
>>724047826They sold Hi-Fi Rush to their original devs' new boss
>>724018983Turn 10 was already shut down and the few who remain are now a playground support studio.
>>724000027XBox was screwed when they lost the generation with the PS4. They completely misread the way the market was going and handed the generation over to Playstation entirely.Their read wasn't even particularly stupid, they were right that the market was shifting, but it wasn't going where they thought it was and they lost huge. And from there, Sony got everyone with either exclusive or timed-exclusives.Like, Sony has won like half of the last however many generations and even when they don't win they come second. If Sony offers you a bunch of money to put your game on the PS for 6months, there's zero reason not to take it. So everyone takes it and the XBox can't claw back from that.Every move after that was just desperation and pivots.
>>724002971Shut the fuck up. You did not buy Ninja Gaiden 4.
>>724048258I don't think she cares or is even in charge . She was tasked by Nutella to kill Xbox and she isn't questioning it, she wants her raise.
>>724033194Saber didn't buy back their freedomThey were sold back to the original owner
>>724033693Let's see her feet
>>724003207Xbox has spent a lot of money n the ABK and Zenimax acquisitions on top of the money spent paying devs to put their games on Game Pass. Yet, their results have not been good despite billions Xbox has wasted and they need to make back the money that was spent which a lot. They can't say "fuck off" to the hand that feeds.>>724004482What the fuck are you talking about?>https://www.microsoft.com/investor/reports/ar25/index.html>Revenue from certain contracts is allocated among the segments based on the relative value of the underlying products and services, which can include allocation based on actual prices charged, prices when sold separately, or estimated costs plus a profit margin.You're a fag who tries to make everything about politics. Die already.
>>724048329They had a chance to bounce back with exclusive games but Phil canceled all of those during that generation and gutted Crackdown 3. Phil killed it because he sucks at his job.
>>724048493That game sucks compared to the NG games
>>724048329Their flop in the PS4 era wasn't enough to kill them. What killed Xbox was the complete inability to put out compelling games, I'd argue that even if don mattrick hadn't fucked the brand they would still be struggling right now because they lost all their best talent and the people who remain are all incompetent. This will happen to Sony in the next generation despite them having no real competition
>>724048493Nobody did, and nobody was ever going to. So what.
>>724041257God I fucking hate sony for killing japan studio and turning into snoy. Now they're using the remnants of that studio to make good games and it only took losing half a billion on a tranny shooter. Fucking idiots.
>>724046575>For a competent CEO look at muskMusk is an anti-productive force. When he fucks off and lets the real engineers and adults in the room make the decisions, you get the Tesla Model S. When he shows up to micromanage and push some retarded idea he's obsessed with, you get the Cybertruck.
>>724049056>and it only took losing half a billion on a tranny shooterAstro Bot and Concord were in development at the same time
>>724049130doesn't matter, after the failure of concord sony said they're gonna focus on smaller, single player games again and I'm still mad they fucked with japan studio
>>724049036It's a game directed by Japanese men and has titty monsters. But you didn't buy it. You'd rather cry and be angry.
>>724049384The realisation always comes too late. Sony specced wrong in every single direction. They are now 100% invested in the least productive, most expensive region on earth. The minute someone releases a somewhat affordable, consolised PC they are dead
>>724049431Platinum is dead, their games look like c-team slop. I like ninja gaiden 1-2 but you couldn't pay me to play 4.
>>724049509>consolised PClol even if microsoft goes through with it, they already it's going to be "super premium" or whatever. That shit isn't going to sell, it's DoA. A cheaper console will always win, people will always want a box that just plays games with hassle. If microsoft even makes it, I half expect them to cancel it and bow out of the race. Nobody is buying their garbage hardware.
>>724000027Yup. Phil fucked EVERYTHING up. Why is it always guys named Phil? Anyway, at least Mattrick released a few exclusives lmao.
>>724003496So when things were good 20 years ago America was a socialist nation?
>>724048984sony still has japanese developers, something xbox doesn't. Funniest shit is that they had a chance to own the guys who made that rhythm combat game and yet chose to shitcan everyone. Decisions like that is what killed xbox.
>>724004230>Dodge V Fordqrd?
>>724049779Turns out you can't take your investors' money and then deliberately lower the profits of your company because you think the investors might set up a rival company with the proceeds.This is a mindblowing revelation for some reason.
>>724013067RIP Cobra. I still can't believe he's gone... Also, he had a PS3 with a copy of New Vegas. Wonder if he ever actually played it?
>>724049621Microsoft isn't doing anything, they have already decided to exit the industry. I was talking more about valve releasing a "console" which matches the power of the next playstation and at the same or cheaper price. Judging by how expensive ps5 pro is these hardware manufacturers have given up on subsidising consoles so it won't be hard to match their prices.Consoles themselves serve absolutely no purpose beyond being an entry level, shitty gaming pc.
>>724049763No they don't, they have a racing sim dev who is barely detectable as Japanese and would probably be better if it relocated to the UK. Then they have a tiny minigame dev who split off from Japan studio and has like 60 employees. Before Microsoft shut tango they were more Japanese than playstation.Also the decision to shut tango was the correct one, mikami left and everything they made without his leadership was shit.
>>724050021Even if valve does release another steam machine, it won't have support for physical games and it'll never be as cheap as a full fledged console. I highly doubt it anyway. Considering the price of PC parts, the PS5P isn't the worst thing in the world, but even then, I personally don't expect the base PS6 to be as or more expensive than it, but we'll see. I expect even sony to start phasing out physical past the PS6 and that's the whole reason I own consoles so that's when I'm checking out.
>>724050191Team Asobi isn't everything PS has, they're literally a Japanese company. One has a developer that can make a fun game since it's literally Japan Studio remnants, the other is Xbox.
The PC console is a winning bet desu and they're heading in the right direction but they're doing it with no fucks given whereas others are treading lightly but inevitably heading in the same direction (less walled gardens, more user freedom, differentiating with hardware rather than exclusive software, no subsidised consoles etc). I suppose the majority don't really care how these companies operate and will consoom anyway but the rapid and constant change from xbox is confusing the enthusiasts because you don't really know what they're going to pull next.For me, I don't care what these companies do. Just give me games i want to play because I'm an idort who plays mainly on PC. So the idea of xbox being a PC console somewhat appeals to me since I can run steam on it and won't have to rely on steam in-house streaming. It kills 2 birds with one stone which is getting the next gen xbox and another PC for my tv.
>>724050278The one detectably Japanese studio Sony owns isn't even run by a Japanese person, the main guy is french. Asobi is literally a minigame dev that was tasked with selling gimmick peripherals and suddenly they are their star developer because it's the only Japanese talent left in the entire company.
>>724049935He played GTA5 on that PS3 too, soul overload.
>>724050436The creative director is French, but lives and speaks Japanese. The studio is based in Tokyo. I don't know how you can get more Japanese.
>>724005571They also opened the Pandora's Box of releasing on PC. It inherently devalues their console business regardless of what the release difference is. PC gamers don't even like installing a second free storefront they are not going to go drop hundreds on a console to play the sequel to whatever sonyslop is being offered. Why would a PC gamer do that instead of spend the money on upgrading their PC? Over time, shareholders will push for increased release cadence and eventually it will be day 1. Because anything else is basically leaving the FOMO money on the table and FOMO money drives game sales in a big way. Hype culture IS gaming culture and nobody is hyped to play a game that got discussed ton death, dissected, and spoiled to shit a year or more prior. How long can Sony justify these lost sales to shareholders? Probably not through the end of PS6. Nintendo was smart and went off to do their own thing after the Wii. They saw this future coming and prepared for it wisely.
>>724050480And Black Ops, I remember he did a gaming stream. Gone too soon. Did Jessica actually poison him? What happened, really?Also GTA5 on the PS3 runs just fine, that's how I played the game originally. Fucking rockstar optimization magic.
ITT: No one actually knows what accountability margins are but gets paid by sony to perform uspetty spaghetti anyway.Very telling that these old "news" coming spamming in when xbox is releasing 3 good games back to back in an already very busy year while sony barely managed to fart out one asscreed clone.
>>724050216If valve releases a console it's not going to be an SFF gaming pc with a 1000 dollar Nvidia GPU in it. It's going to have the same kind of AMD soc that consoles use, valve will sell it at cost the way they do with the deck because they make a shit tonne on the backend through steam.The ps6 will barely have support for physical, they will charge you 200 dollars for a disk reader and 70% of the dwindling gaming stores will be closed by then. The general consumer has already accepted the shift to digital. There is now functionally no difference between the console and pc experience besides the console charging to use your own internet.Valve also has a motivation beyond profit which will push them to adopt value as a primary motivator, they want out from windows and they need Linux to take off.
>>724050747Xbox is leaving the console market anyways so they aren't direct competition to sony anymore.
>>724002245>Only Nintendo and Valve should be the major hardware companies of gaming since they're actually gaming companies that give a shit about gaming.I'm sorry, patenting basic shit like "capturing monsters" AFTER your competitor makes a popular game in the genre is giving a shit about gaming?After already stealing the mechanic from Dragon Quest and Megami Tensei in the first place?After we just saw Namco patent loading minigames and do fucking nothing with it?After we just saw Warner patent the nemesis system and do fucking nothing with it?that's giving a shit about gaming?
>>723997690Deadbox died over a decade ago. And Microsoft has only a few games that are good enough to even mention at all while discussing games.
>>724050558By not having a french man in charge. Even when you accept they are mostly a japanese studio they are barely more than an indie team. If your entire identity as a Japanese company rests of the shoulders of 60 Devs you aren't a Japanese company.
>>724050804The vast majority of games still release fully playable on the disc and sony offers every first party title on disc as well, just like nintendo with their games. Considering they own bluray I fully expect a decent amount of physical support for the PS6, there's still a sizeable group of people who buy games that way on playstation. It's Xbox where physical fucking ate shit and died quickly because of goypass.Regardless, once physical is no longer a thing, I'm simply going to pirate everything. I'm not gonna pay to own nothing.
>>724046337glad someone pointed it out
>>724004230you don't even have to repeal it, just force every company to restructure as a Benefit Corporationhttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Benefit_corporation>>724049779Henry Ford took his company's profits and spent them on things like new assembly equipment and higher employee wages.Dodge Brother sued him and said the one and only obligation of a corporation is shareholder profit, everything else be damned.They won and America has never recovered.
>>724051019Nintendo doesn't even give you real physical games and it's a handheld. Half of their releases are an elaborate code for a digital download. Physical sales have collapsed and every year they tumble faster.Kids don't even want consoles in the first place, they all want a gaming pc like their favourite streamer and the only blocker is price. This is why the first standardised, affordable amd APU gaming pc on the market will effectively kill consoles.
>>724013821Yes, because gamers want to play games they are excited about playing. Why the fuck else would you want to play a game? And if you are excited about it you will likely buy it over rent it, if you can afford it. Since most gamers only buy 1-3 games a year, they just buy the titles they really want. If you are someone that already buys 4+ games a year then the value proposition from GamePass is still not there because those types of gamers like to be able to access that game whenever they want. GamePass does not provide this as games leave the service. So, who does it actually appeal to? Who is actually the market here? It can't be normies because they don't even play enough games to make it viable, it can't be richfags because they'd rather "own" their games, and it doesn't appeal to poorfags because they just pirate for free and not deal with MS bullshit on top of keeping the game. The service is a fucking scam and more people are beginning to realize it.
>>724021046>Reminder that Microsoft is more lenient on selling IPthen why are they still holding old FASA IPs hostage?Battletech, Shadowrun, Mech Warrior, Crimson Skies... most of these are still being licensed out on a per-game basis.
>>724051259No, that's completely wrong. Nintendo first party games are fully on the cartridge. It's up to third party devs where they use keycards or not. Kids also definitely want consoles, a simple box that just plays games will always have an audience and be appealing. Fuck, the new generation only understands simple interfaces, they don't even know what a file system is. The simpler the better for them.
>>724051182They can still do whatever the fuck they just need an excuse.>the equipment will improve productivity>the wages will steal top workers from our competitorsAnyone saying corpos need to be shitty is just giving them an undeserved free pass.
>>724051396Who's willing to buy?
>>724051396Because it's cheaper for devs to license rather than buy the whole damn thing period
>>724050842>I'm sorry, patenting basic shit like "capturing monsters" AFTER your competitor makes a popular game in the genre is giving a shit about gaming?Yeah, because it ensures that dogshit like Palworld doesn't get made.
>>724051440Jordan Weisman, founder of FASA and former head of Xbox Games
accountability margins meaning if the project fails then people get fired? it makes sense they would just cancel a lot of games and shutter a lot of studios then. makes you wonder why they even greenlit those games.
>>724051398The PC is already a simple box that just plays games. SteamOS is the solution to that issue. The sole reason Microsoft has not cancelled their next Xbox is they are scared of valve, the entire Xbox brand is now Microsoft's half hearted attempt to stop valve from supercharging Linux.
>>724051520better than any modern pokeslop
>>724051520>less competition is good, actuallyand you're still ignoring the fact that Dragon Quest, Megami Tensei, and hell even Robotrek all set gameplay precedents for what Nintendo now claims to have invented.
>>724051576It's really not. Definitely not simple enough for a lot of people, there's also a huge group who work at a PC all day and do not want to also relax and game in front of one. Consoles will always have a place. Also gaben said steamos literally won't even have a desktop version to begin with.
>>724016589It was recoverable but not by Phil. You can fuck up one generation you just can't fuck up two. Two in a row is a death sentence. The sample size is small but thus far nobody has survived two bad generations in a row. Everyone has had one though and has been able to recover from it. WiiU to Switch for example. GameCube to Wii.
>>724014839And undertale was made by a dude in his garage for pocket change you fucking faggot.people want GOOD games, not DOGSHIT passionless games like pokemon ZA
>>724051714>a dude in his garagehe was actually in Andrew Hussie's basement. that's why it's called Undertale, he was living underneath of the Homestuck guy.
>>724051542How much money he got?
>>724051656You aren't listening to anything I'm saying. A real valve steam machine will not function like a pc, you don't use it at a desk if you don't want to. SteamOS is already as simple as a console if all you do is buy games on steam. When Gabe said theres no desktop version he said there's no near term plans to support generic gaming desktops, this is completely separate from their own custom hardware or hardware partners.
>>724051936No, I am, I simply am sceptical. I doubt valve will eat the cost so much to make a steam machine as efficient and cheap as a console. I also doubt people will just up and go play on it when they have vast digital libraries already on other systems. The 'eck barely sold any units.
>>724051678Nintendo survived two. N64 into Gamecube, both sold like shit.
>>723997690>>723997917>>723998095She did the right thing, tbqh. You cant just spend +$100 Billion on acquisitions, not deliver positive results and expect that this kind of failure wont have any consequences. This shit is entirely the fault of Xbox's incompetent leadership, who couldnt develop a decent game to save their lives.
>>724015971I agree. This image of the people in charge of inxile has filled me with great optimism for clockwork revolution.
>>724033693Ummm, AI prompters our thoughts?
>>724014559I know that it makes millions and all of that but how Minecraft even aligns with Xbox new idea that games needs to make more and more money probably hinting into investing more in live service games?
>>724052113and still those consoles have more games worth playing than the last 5 xbox together
>>723997690>AAAAAAAAAAAAAIIIIIIIIIIIEEEEEEEEEE SHE CANCELLED EVERWILDS>Rare admitted that for the first six years they were working out WHAT KIND OF FUCKING GAME THEY WERE GONNA MAKEI'm glad she's going through their devs like Hadrian through the jews.ELEVEN FUCKING YEARS of development time and over half was spent laying the fucking foundation.
>>723997690There should have been more accountability at the leadership level and the entire leadership team scrapped for those with an actual vision for the future. Phil fucked up by buying out all these developers, writing them a blank check without proper teams overseeing what they're making and giving them guidance. The Initiative and Perfect Dark should've been canned a long time ago.Microsoft's past portfolio and their strength wasn't buying out all these studios. They were a great second-party publisher that could hold developers accountable to milestones and what they bring to the table. Itagaki brought Dead or Alive, Epic brought Gears of War, Digital Eclipse and Iron Galaxy brought Killer Instinct. And then they should've kept on internally what they do best which is live service games. I don't think we needed Gamepass if Phil hadn't bungled the Xbox's launch and actually had launch games ready. But he was too busy buying out studios and the competition than worrying about how he was going to sell the system in the first place. That was poor leadership and no vision for the future.
>>724053304Never said they didn't, the Cube alone mogs everything Xbox ever put out
>>724000027The reason xbox is dead it's because the didn't release a single good title in the past 13 years.
>>724015101>This is Microsoft finally correcting the problem.HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHA
>>724054237The original Xbox has better quality exclusives than the GameCube
>>724055976the halo underage thread is up there
>>724052061You can be skeptical about whether they can succeed but it is just objectively true that steamOS on the deck is already a console experience. There is absolutely no reason why a valve console can't compete with Sony on price, they are using the same parts and they have the same revenue structure. If anything valve is is a better position to subsidise because their position in the market is so dominant they make 30% on Sony's games too.
>>724048329Nah Playstation is fucked too now that Nintendo has third party support.
>>724056561It's not really a console experience, since there's still fiddling with shit, just like on PC. Games also vary wildly whether they're optimized or not. It's the closest valve has gotten to it though.
>>724056639>nintendo has third party supportthey're still missing a fuckton of games and always will since they're a generation behind like always. Personally I'm fine with it, most of the games aren't even good.
>>723998095Um, sweetie, we use accountability margins now, mmkay? "Profit" is problematic.
>>724056693If you buy games within steam there is essentially no fiddling, the tiny amount that exists is so minor it is within the ability of a tech disabled normie to figure out. This is just clicking ok on a text prompt before a game loads. The only thing they can't change is fucking with pc graphics settings in games which kids will be fine with but console tards will freak out over, the only solution is to make the system powerful enough that settings optimisation is unnecessary.
>>723997690Perhaps hiring a black foid and making her CEO was a bad idea xbox
>>724056639Third parties aren't going to be releasing their AAA games on the Switch 2 due to the performance issues. You'll get games from last gen, but that's it really. GTA 6 for example isn't going to run on a Switch
