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>CS trader faggots treat pixels as an investment
>Valve completely tanks their economy
>mass shitskin suicide

Based beyond belief. The fact that they call their skins a portfolio is hilarious.
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Is it an hero shooter now? XD
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yeah it's been a funny day
Maybe I'll get a knife when they drop to like $20
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>>724021925
Can someone explain to me what exactly they're committing suicide over?

This isn't real money right? It's "potential' money like how game devs cry about "potential" sales?
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>>724022225
yeah you understand it perfectly. people are mentally ill, what else is new
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>>724022225
All the $1500 knives they've been hoarding are now worth $15.
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>>724022225
>like how game devs cry about "potential" sales?
LOL
I never thought about it like that but it's perfect. Get fucked idiots!
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>>724022387
it's more like $1500 knives are worth $1200 now and these spergs are dying
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>>724022387
They're not now worth $15. They were never worth $1500. They were imagines to be worth $1500 but that doesn't mean shit if nobody actually buys that shit
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>>724022387
LMAO so you're telling me your picrel an heroes over 60 grand?
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>>724022225
They're just digital hoarders that think their shit is worth more than it really is. (aka, nothing)
Their egos couldn't handle the reality check, so they offed themselves.

The only downside is that there haven't been any livestreams of their suicides, because I need new material for my spank bank like yesterday.
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>>724021925
can someone explain to me how this update worked that caused a glob value decrease? I don’t play counter strike or collect digital shit
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>>724022895
no
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>>724022225
The potential value of pngs in a video game is worth more than the actual currencies of their countries.
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>>724022895
You can trade 5 garbage skins for a knife. Knives are worth a lot of money. Garbage skins are not. Knives are insanely easy to get now and not worth the thousands they were going for.
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>>724021925
>crypto fags still think their shit isn't just like this
kek
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>>724021925
You don't understand. These third world mouthbreathers took loans from criminals. Killing yourself is the easy way out since you get to skip the humiliation and torture before inenvitable death. But they will still build a monument out of your body as a warning to others.
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>>724023153
>taking a loan for a pixels in a video game
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>>724022895
You can use 10 skins of the same rarity to trade them up for a skin of a higher rarity, you couldnt trade up covert skins of weapons (highest rarity for weapons) to get knives and gloves, now you can. That means you dont need to hit the 1 in 400ish chance to get a knife from a case when you can trade up 5 covert skins and potentially obtain the ultra rare knives that were valued at gorillion dollars.
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>>724023035
thanks. sounds like a fun time
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>>724023297
that’s insane that only a 1:400 item was worth $1500. I guess the boxes were hard to get?
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>>724021925
they should have gone to /biz/ more and read what the /smg/ retards post about the fed and fiat. If your "money" is controlled by a whim of a megalomaniacal cabal, then you're a lost cause
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>>724022387
what a fucking morons, lmao
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Imagine putting your life savings into a private gaming company
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>>724022225
several mudaks in tyva collect these, many bought up for as little as 50₽, which is less than a dollar. hold onto them for the value to rise and these can be exchanged on trading or gambling sites in hopes for real money

putin cut SNILS to fund his losing war, so many of us rely on these in hopes to leave before the next wave of drafts occur

this is the only way out for many, and that door has closed
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How can you even make shekels? Steam wallet is only for Steam and cannot be exchanged.
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>>724023659
gray market websites run by literal mafias
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>>724023472
They should have just bought soxl!
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>>724022387
>>724023748
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>>724023592
Fucking legendary post. Kek'd hard.
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>>724023748
>>724023823
Gaben has killed more Chinks than the Taiwanese and US military, kek based
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>>724021925
>valve were the good guys all along
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>>724023449
not really. most cases are between 50¢ and $2. You need to buy a key directly from valve though which are fixed at $2.50 to open them though. Then take into account that theres a ton of variance within the knives themselves and how good they look thats how you get the insane prices
>>724023659
3rd party sites which facilitate RMT
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>>724023449
You can get cases from a weekly care package when you level up every week.
>1:400 item was worth $1500.
Its a bit more complicated than that, when you pull a karambit knife for example, it can be a vanilla karambit or a case hardened karambit (there are more types of karambits but lets keep it simple), case hardeneds have 1000 patterns, which are essentially 1000 different skins, one of these patterns makes the knife fully sky blue, thats what the community called a blue gem karambit. The odds of pulling something like that are way bigger than 1 in 400 and this knife was valued in 1.2 million dollars because its very rare and very desirable. Things can get pretty crazy with rare patterns of certain skins.
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>>724024104
>>724024203
ok that makes slightly more sense. I don’t think it will completely kill the market just make the values more reasonable. it will still take lots of grinding to get the rare combos imo
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>>724023748
>>724023823
csgo more like overwatch because it's an hero shooter now lmao kek screencap this
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>>724024203
>very desirable
but by who? who even value these things?
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>>724024928
Counter Strike players and big investors who want to make money. AWP Dragonlores are always going to be desirable, for example.
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As a long-time CS player, this was a great update. I hope they push even more changes that make skin prices reach the level they were at in 2016-2017. New players shouldn't have to cough up damn near $1K for a decent loadout or knife because a bunch of retarded Chinese or Saudi Arabian whales decided to hoard everything and pump and dump the market every few months. If people kill themselves over this update, then good riddance. Valve is making these changes for a reason, they're not stupid. Current theory is that they're trying to slowly phase out cases as the only way to get knives because more and more countries (and possibly the EU soon) have banned lootboxes. The genesis terminal and X-ray case is evidence of that. Valve's lawyers know what they're doing.
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>accumulate hundreds of dollars of cs skins over the years casually opening boxes
>friends tell me to sell during market turbulence
>dont sell
>dont care
i just like my skins theyre neat
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>>724022001
Carlos!
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>>724025176
my guess is valve probably got warned they were on the legal chopping block unless changes get made lawyers talked and advised the dev team to make changes before litigation and fighting it would have had them lose anyway and be a waste of money + time, in reality this was probably the best way to do it, without a court order and under their own volition all things end, NO CRYING IN THE CASINO.
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>>724025234
This is how skins are supposed to be treated: shiny pixels that you can have fun with in game. They were never meant to be an investment. I find it laughable how some people legitimately put their 401K into an unregulated market that is at the whim of a gaming company.
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>>724023592
Baza
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>>724025348
100%. Valve may be lazy, but they're not idiots. People forget that they quite literally popularized lootboxes with TF2 back in the day. Like you implied, they're probably expecting lootboxes to be banned worldwide soon and are trying to get ahead of it.
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>>724025176
this, Valve also hated seeing people using external sites to sell skins, they get 0 money when that happens.
>Current theory is that they're trying to slowly phase out cases
If they dont add a new Armory case soonish, then 100% they are saying bye to cases. Maybe they are going to make cases the premium lootbox thing and make terminals the 'family friendly' alternative, idk.
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>>724024928
they're all passing around the same knives and the same money to each other
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>>724023890
US secret weapon, lmao
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>>724025234
>dont sell
I don't believe you. Anyone who play those game casually sell them. It's few clicks and one phone tap. No need to do RMT. No need to cry about $80 video games. Free money for video games.
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>>724021925
If you hadn't cashed out enough before the update to at least make back what you spent then you're too stupid to live
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>>724021925
>your portfolio
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>>724025480
i blame the people who were going around telling people cs2 skins were a store of value akin to precious metals or real estate, when lawmakers got wind of that trend it was over.
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>>724022225
Yeah basically. It's all in steam money.
You pay real cash to roll for an item and if you're lucky it's rare, meaning it's worth say 2000 fake dollars, which you can use to open more crates(a lot of gambling addicts do that), sit on it in hopes that the crate expires and your item gets more expensive(a lot of gambling addicts do that) or sell it and buy a ton of games on steam.
There's also the fags that buy entire steam accounts, items, email, everything for real cash, but it's "banned".

They're committing mass sudoku because their long term "investment" just bit them in the nuts and lost a fuckton of potential money. Nevermind the fact that almost all of them would sit on this "wealth" until the fucking doomsday.
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>>724025596
They'd have to be, like hot potato. Nobody was spending 12 grand on a blue knife to actually play with. It was completely imaginary.
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>>724022225
Nah, they borrowed real money for this and are in the hole to the triad
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>>724024203
Isnt that exactly the same shit as NFT apes at that point?
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>>724026206
>Nobody was spending 12 grand on a blue knife
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>>724026110
Anon...you use special site to sell or buy them for real money. It's nothing complex. Account selling is different case.
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>>724026309
Wait, so the jews tricked chinks, ziggers, AND the saudis? Holy fuck
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>>724026264
Nah.
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Steambucks aren't real money
You can't cash out
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>>724026264
CS skins have the benefit of being attached to an old game with a very loyal community, and the game is owned by a private company that prints money. You can use your skins ingame, and karambits have a clean inspect animation, I dont know if NFT apes have an inspect animation desu.
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>>724022225
A chink, jeet, and a borschtnigger walk into a beanie baby convention...
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>>724026383
>ziggers
We don't have money to buy those desu.
There are two types of people who are MAD.
The "lucky" fags who had knife but didn't sell it so their rage and frustration are justified.
And giga whales who hoarding knives and buying them with their own real money. They're very very MAD. Suicide tier mad.
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>>724026309
Is this the weeb Prince?
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>>724022225
Imagine if you could sell your anime jpegs
That's CSGO
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Are labubus next?
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>>724021925
>let's be honest, these degenerates will be buying
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It's not over.
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>>724027040
get out of the market man, the eu is gearing up for suits to end lootboxes im POSITIVE this is the start of the end and the trade ups probably aren't going to stop here, they may even completely remove boxes all together in favor of some new mechanics.
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>>724027314
EU has no power.
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>>724022387
first NFTfags and now this, love to see it
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>>724022225
>It's "potential' money like how game devs cry about "potential" sales?
No, it's potential money like how stocks and crypto are, the only difference is that there's no legitimate way to cash out, but it's still possible.
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>>724021925
That explains why I'm suddenly getting an influx of friend invites asking about my unusual
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>>724027462
you were warned man don't say you weren't you have time still, think it over.
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>>724026609
One of the things NFTs were supposed to be good for was proof-of-ownership of a particular object/skin/whatever, so game companies would load it up in their games and allow you to transfer it between them for a kickback of fees or whatever, and for a variety of reasons this did not end up ever happening. (Except, it kind of did in weird rare instances, like the time I found out that the 3D art NFT I'd made had been bought by an art collector and placed in his online virtual gallery. I visited, was cool, first time I've ever had work in a gallery not-at-university.) (I still think it's coming, but in like 15 years and controlled by the game companies and heavily obfuscated so that it's difficult but still possible to pull it out of whatever ecosystem the original interoperability partners decide on.)
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>>724021925
Oh no. A bunch of chink and Russian speculators got caught holding the bag instead of dumping it on someone else before the end like they were hoping. I feel so terrible.
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Is dare some kine ov problehm jantellmeen?
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>>724023748
>>724023823
>>724023592
Based Gaben genociding the second world. China and Russia are plagues on humankind and should be wiped out of existence.
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>>724023592
NO REFUNDS
HAVE FUN IN UKRAINE
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>>724023592
Bac пoбeдили yкpaинcкиe кpecтьянe. Пyтин пoтepпeл пopaжeниe. Bы yмpeтe в oдинoчecтвe, хoлoдe и гoлoдe
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>>724021925
I thought we would've gotten more suicide memes at this point, but there are only the mod zigger and the chinks screencaps. Lame.
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>>724022582
Yeah this. Did anyone ever buy those $1500 knives anyway? Why would anyone buy them too
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>>724022387
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>>724026110
why do people keep parroting this
as grim as it is, these people use real money. All of this speculative trading crap happens on third party websites, the steam marketplace has price caps specifically to prevent this bullshit, you can't do the fuckhueg transactions that these people are crying about on there
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>>724022001
Fuck, that actually got me.
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>>724030509
that is genuinely even more retarded than crypto because you're relying on other speculators bagholding AND the website people not fucking you
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>>724030509
*price cap on steam is specifically $1800 if I remember correctly
lots of cs garbage goes for way more than that
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They did the same with profile stuff a while ago not sure why people are so surprised. You used to need to craft booster packs from those shitty cards every game has to get a chance at all the backgrounds and fancy stuff. Some animated backgrounds were worth $30+ and the cards were 30-50c each. Then Valve made it so you can craft any item with a handful of Steam points which were basically infinite so prices cratered 90% overnight.
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>>724021925
The funniest part about all this is that this entire multi-billion CS skin industry was cooked up by a few dozen college educated, lefty, soical justice, nerdy costal Californian types at Valve who've all probably wouldn't hurt a fly in real life.

But through this invention they created years ago have literally and unironically, collectively and directly caused the deaths of hundreds if not thousands of 3rd worlders they probably post online about empathizing with and no amount of local charity volunteering or donations can wash away the blood on their hands.
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>>724030509
Again, nobody other than money laundering criminals would buy some
video game pixels for thousands of dollars.
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>>724022225
My question is they always say they can sell their skins for money
but who the fuck is buying them?
Tell me /v/ who the fuck is buying this shit and why?
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>>724030626
a lot of them take fucking absurd commission, way higher than what steam market charges
and you're always relying on sketchy bots to do transactions

fucking braindead people that treated it as proper investing, I'm not surprised it's mostly russians/brazilians/etc that are having a melty about it
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>>724026824
Who the fuck would buy them?
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>>724022387
>channel photo removed
Did he fucking livestream his suicide?
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>america wins ww3 before it even starts by causing mass suicides in russia and china
out fucking played
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>>724022225
>A bunch of people that don't know how to invest their money decided they should throw billions of dollars at cosmetic items for a video game (well really multiple video games have this but we're talking about this one in particular right now).
>This goes on for over a decade
>The European Union finally manages to get their shit together and actually pass a series of laws meant to prevent forms of real-money gambling in video games, which were first drafted over a decade ago
>These laws affect Counter-Strike 2 because of the first greentext
>Today Valve updates Counter-Strike 2 to comply with these new laws, pic related. Essentially, you can take your shitty cosmetics to get better cosmetics. It's almost the same as TF2's crafting system except not as bullshit and people haven't "solved" it yet.
>All those people from the first greentext now believe they are now poor and in debt because their pretend economy was built entirely on speculation and make-believe bullshit
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>>724026110
So it's literally just all fake money used only on steam sales for games they would never play

This is some mental ass fucking shit here. I am truly flabbergasted
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>>724021925
>mass shitskin suicide
since when did thirdies have the time and income to buy massive amounts of cs items?
brown people live rent free in your head haha
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>>724030952
People who think they can find a greater fool to sell to. It's just a big game of who's the retard stuck holding the bag at the end.
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>>724030509
So you're saying they're also underhanded criminals laundering money as well?

Truly explain why I should have any sympathy whatsoever?
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>>724031226
you shouldn't, everyone who takes part in it is retarded
it's honestly even dumber than the sketchy gambling websites that Valve cease-and-desisted years ago. At least on those you were basically just using skins you already own as "money" to potentially win more skins, there wasn't any actual real money involved (except for the website owners which is why Valve nuked them lel)
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>>724031121
probably fake bullshit to get funeral donos
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>>724023769
>300% on the 6 month chart
Damn nigga
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>>724022225
>This isn't real money right?
It's as real as pic related HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
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>>724023592
but the ukranny is losing thoughbeit
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>>724026264
If a NFT project decides to change the rules existing holders can opt out if enough of them object. Steamies just have to take it lol
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Proof of someone cashing out on knives and getting rea money or property?

$100,000 for a digital knife sounds even crazier than Scam Citien stories
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>>724031478
russia is winning too slow, so thats like loosing
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>>724024203
>his knife was valued in 1.2 million dollars because its very rare and very desirable.
This is where I'm lost. Why is it "very desirable"? Is it because these subhumans are mentally defective with broken brains?
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>>724021925
itt: poorfags feeling superior for being poor
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>>724021925
>portfolio
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>>724031520
There is some weird crazy shit in this world.

Here's something. have you heard of a thing called the World Series? It's a normalfag sports thing and people are paying 10,000 dollars for this thing
I'll never understand normalfags and why they want to take over our website so much
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>>724031559
Speculative bubble is the technical term.
Look up tulip mania.
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>>724031614
rich people are buying houses and properties not shitty knives on CS kek
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>>724031559
Basically, retards who hope to get rich from collectibles (a.k.a. Speculators) convince themselves that some eccentric billionaire with a passion for counterstrike will one day come down from the sky and pay them an exorbitant price for their rare .jpg.

Then they go and trumpet their bullshit on storefronts, forums, they sponsor youtubers, anything they can to spread this lie. A price that nobody has ever paid is obviously not real value, but these dumb cunts will go to extreme lengths - even faking transactions with each other - to prop up the valuations.

Not exclusive to CS2 btw. It happens with trading cards, retro games, all sorts of shit.

I truly believe people that engage in this behaviour should be gassed. They don't even make much money out of it.
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>>724031827
This is some of the most retarded shit I've ever heard or seen in all my years of life
What the flying fuck
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>>724031520
i sold one for $1,700 real money when cs2 came out
there's shitloads of sites to do it. tradeitgg, swapgg, csmoney. It's an endless list of speculation slop websites hosted in eastern europe usually. Funnily enough a lot of them are down right now lel
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>>724031908
oh yeah the tulip mania was the most stupid thing ever and yet people never learned.
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>>724031956
How fucking low IQ does a buyer have to be to actually pay that much for that shit?
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>>724031956
Yeah that's exactly the reason why valve is doing it, the law probably got close to them and they are hammering everything down
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>>724032046
Thats the thing. The buyer wasn't paying for the fucking skin, they were 'investing'. They probably sold it onward a few months later for a marginal profit.

This retarded shit strays from fundamental value very quickly.
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>>724031956
this sounds illegal
not even borderline illegal
straight up illegal
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>>724032069
It's probably because there's a lot of capital flight goin on in Russia and China. It's actually illegal to own stocks in China.
Someone likely spoke to Valve.
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>>724032069
it's more likely the site owners are trying to cash out their bot accounts than anything valve related
that's their whole business model
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>>724031815
>>724031863
>>724031827
>>724031614
>>724031956
>>724031998

Hold me /v/, I'm starting to lose faith in humanity.
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>>724032210
It'll be okay. This is what Darwin award's are for
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>>724031191
Thirdies' lack of income is why they love this RMT shit, dumbass
They can click a few buttons and make the same amount of money they make in a day slaving away in some field or at some factory from some American paying $20 for a weapon skin, they view their CS2 inventories as "investments"
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>>724031412
That's not true. I can open my monopoly box and say I have something tangible
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>>724032210
this shit is fundamentally no different from putting it all on black at roulette
if someone makes money doing risky shit, it's not a big deal
if some retard kills themselves over it, it's not a big deal
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>>724021925
finally, thank god. these fags and bugmen deserve to lose everything
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>>724032578
DESTROYED
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if the EU or whoever really does tell steam to shut down the skins crap, they can just revoke API access to these stupid websites and their bots
the change today exclusively fucks over investorfags which is really funny, if anything it's gonna cause valve to make more money from dumb people directly buying keys since you can just farm red guns now
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>>724031412
>flying from NY to Munich for Oktoberfest in 2019
>layover in Dublin
>go to ATM to withdraw some Euros
>literally thought Monopoly money was coming out of the machine
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so you can trade up contract coverts, but can you trade up the tier below covert to red? so if i just buy like a hundred of 25 cent skins can i trade up to reds to make a knife or whatever?
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>>724032578
based boardgamer
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>>724033327
yes
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>>724032578
Toppest of keks
End the thread right here
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>>724021925
absolutely based
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>>724023592
>several mudaks in tyva collect these

ДЖEДЖ
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>>724029610
a ты пoкa кaк вceгдa...иди пoжyй гoвнa
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>>724022001
it waa only funny the first time
copying a good post doesn't make you smart
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>>724021925
I’ve seen a lot of anons on here criticizing others’ decisions to “invest” their money in the CS market when they say it’s closer to “gambling”. The CS market is a collectibles market, designed to be invested in.

>Buyers post bids, sellers post asks
>Items have a rarity, float, and pattern ID, creating a supply dynamic
>They also have perceived value based on looks, scarcity, and preference, creating a demand dynamic
>Liquid skins have tighter spreads, higher volumes and thus sell quicker
>Purchases even establish basis, and you’re supposed to report and pay taxes on those gains, classified as capital assets.

Some have justified Valve's decision as a way to lower the cost of knives and make them more affordable to the player base. While this is more a matter of belief, I personally believe in free markets. I think the market should decide how much each item is worth. If someone is willing to pay $5k for a ruby knife, it was worth $5k to them--otherwise they wouldn't have made the decision to buy the knife. Who is Valve to say the knife shouldn't be that expensive?

In any case Valve lost any and all credibility it had with me after publishing knife/glove trade ups. I sold my entire inventory and will not be buying skins again.
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>>724023592
> putin
> losing war
oink oink little piggie
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>>724034867
Got an ad the other day on YouTube of a Ukranian woman soldier begging for donations of first aid kits and it was filmed like one of those animal shelter videos
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>>724031478
>losing
By what metric? The only thing they are currently losing is the odd field and poor sucker in the wrong place, wrong time.

Russia, for all their 'victories' are currently mauling their vehicle and troop reserves for ever dwindling gains. The ones who could leave already have, these retards were fucked as soon as the war started. I wonder how many Russians acutally made it out with this method. I guess they would fit in fine in Romania.
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>>724021925
The funniest part is normies are too retarded to:
>diversify portfolio
>do basic fucking math and realize that rare knives will get cheaper but won't be as cheap as shitty knives we have now
If u are a retard who panic sold their shit then u could
>buy some agents
>buy recoil, dreams or fever case
>uhh lil' squirt charm is rare and popular enough to stock up on
>apparently Stockholm holo's are under priced
>wait for next major and observe amount of sold capsules, paris level? stay away. Shanghai/Austin levels? Easy money from buying them when sold at discount.
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>>724021925
And there's literally zero legal recourse because this was completely unregulated securities that the IRS just didn't know about. The market just quietly fizzling out is probably the best way it could've ended, else all that money they just lost would've been paid as backtaxes anyway.
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>>724021925
You losers are something else, just a bunch of poorfags being happy someone who has more than you lost something.

Go fuck yourself you aint not my friends you miserable faggots
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>>724036221
Im sorry for your 100 bucks bro
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>>724036221
>"My life savings of $250 are gone, I'm going to neck myself, ITS NOT FUNNY"
I mean it kind of us. You could have gotten a normal job and just made money doing that but instead you are as delusional as a tranny and gambling on a virtual rugpull. Congrats
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>>724035992
The funniest part is people like you who treat video game skins like an investment portfolio.
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>>724036565
>>724037768
You crab suckers are all the same can't afford shit in life thats why you celebrate like hogs eating slop instead of playing video games because you are just miserable losers.

And you know this is true so I get last laugh here fucking retards
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>>724022225
Jewish monetary concepts are retarded schizo delusions, go figure.
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>>724021925
Wonder if I can finally get a balisong in game for cheap now to cosplay as tf2 spy
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>>724036221
>you aint not my friends you miserable faggots
Since I didn't entrust any money to this jew, I am actually a rather relieved faggot
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>>724022225
it's like owning stocks and the stock market crashes
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>>724034867
Gulagmo
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>>724023592
>not getting to USA while CBPone was a thing
Oпoздaл нa пoeзд бpaт. Я в CШA yжe двa гoдa живy.
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>red items up by 1000% or more
>knives down by like 30%
>reds are roughly 10 times more common than knives
Why isn't the market cap going up? Why are people upset that the long term market is going up?
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im glad they are giving me an excuse to stop wasting money on this shitty ass game. ill take my goddamn lump sum and use it to fund better games for me to play for ages to come.
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>>724037768
A bunch of the fags that killed themselves had presumably taken out huge ass loans to "invest" in these jpgs with that they're now going to have to sell their cars and houses to pay back.
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>>724038273
I'm not one who get loans to invest in CS2 knives though
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>>724022225
>This isn't real money right?
no but they probably spent real money on it lmao
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broke ass niggers from Russia, China and Balkans are eating shit and killing themselves. Fuck those cockroaches. Based Gaben.
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In the coming few days I will be offloading multiple steam accounts with inventories that currently stand at $5000~ each, this is down from some 30000 as of just yesterday. I do not believe the current crash can be overturned and will be exiting my positions immediately
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>investing in csgo skins instead of actual assets
lol, lmao even
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>>724040269
lost more money in one day than you will make in a lifetime who you calling broke ass you neet timmy?
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>>724022225
whitoids don't need a reason to kill themselves
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I have a question?
How do you convert the Steam wallet money in to real life money.
Like if i had a 500$ skin id want to get real money for it not hoard it hoping a video game skin will ever be worth more than 500$
At best id use the steam valet money to buy Games so i dont have to spend real life money on games.
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I am eager for the day that where all the parts of my life stop being speculative markets. It was so nice before.
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>>724040513
You sell it for $500 in crypto, usually. Then you could cash that out for real money at some point.
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>>724022225
third worlders in countries like yurop, brazil and india horded pngs with the intent to sell them at some point for real world money
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>>724040551
I mean how exactly would you sell it for Crypto.
Do you just trust the guy who you are selling the skin to will pay you and not just take it.
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>>724040641
>>724040551
Oh i see
There are 3rd party sites for that.
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I don't want to hear anything more about this garbage. I should have sold all my skins a long time ago and forgotten about this garbage, but no, it's just a hoarder's syndrome.
But now, finally, everything is freedom, I don't care what the prices are like, even if they rebound and skyrocket – I don't care, it won't bother me anymore. Good luck to everyone, and take care of your nerves; they are more valuable than money or any games.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WWGq-wlTLnk
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>>724040829
>I should have sold
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>>724032578
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>>724021925
chinks literally on suicide watch
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>crypto and gambling crackers ignoring all the ecelebs and "investors" on their end about to kill themselves
McLarens incoming
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>>724022225
>>724022387
Unironic 3rd worlders are freaking out because they lost like 2 grand. It's sad and hilarious.
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>>724025234
Same , although I have offloaded my own supply in the past to buy a game I wanted at the time because I hardly used it
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>>724031815
t. erhm sportsball!
That being said paying $10k for a ticket is fucking retarded unless your company is comping you or you're already rich and don't care
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>>724027314
>the eu is gearing up for suits to end lootboxes
cant come soon enough
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>>724023823
>@EU_Commission
what the fuck are these retards doing? it's all their fault
>treat platform to trade pixels as the stock market
>trade pixels that are tied to a service you don't control using RMT sites to receive money in clear violation of the platform's terms
>company, not being beholden to the regulations and laws that the stock market has to abide by, releases an update that shakes the market
>come crying to the EU out of spite to bitch that you want the thing shut down only after you gamble your life savings away like a retard on virtual knives without real value
not defending gayben's horrific hat emporium, but the hypocrisy of these cunts is disgusting
you were told a million times not to pour money into that scam yet you did. you get what you deserve
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>>724023592
in english, please
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>>724021925
AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
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>>724046612
why didn't he just cash out? I mean, it's 1 fucking million. he'd have been much better off investing in the stock market with all that money
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>>724021925
I'm so happy these faggot hoarders lost everything extremely based from valve and I hope it gets worse. We don't need worthless leeches taking resources from the world so if they neck it's a great thing
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>>724022225
you could exchange these pixels for real money (hundreds of $ per skin) but now they are worthless
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>>724023592
>putin cut snils
So he cut his snils card, or someone's else? like write in russian nigga.
нy и лoгичный вoпpoc, кaк в бycикe хoхлoблядь?
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>>724022225
Criptofags are the male version of bpd sluts
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I knew this time would come, and I knew it would be hilarious to behold.
What I didn’t know is that it would happen at the same time as ukrainian and russian cs players getting sent to catch explosive drones with their heads.
I don’t even feel like making fun of them desu
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>>724021925
PET YOUR HECKIN DOGGOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!
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>>724046731
One of the issues that retarded investerinos have is actually flipping their product. This guy was squatting on a million-dollar item and that's as much of a curse as it is a blessing, because the only other people that would buy it are other retarded investerinos that won't budge unless they feel like they'll get a return. So they can't just "cash out" unless they're willing to make compromises with their sale.

This shit happens with TCGs all the time. It's funniest when it happens in Yugioh since the rapid deflation of cards happens as soon as Konami announces reprints of chase cards.
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If all the pics I've seen here are real then dozens of men across the world killed themselves today because of this. Shouldn't this be on the news then? Would Gaven be forced to acknowledge it?
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>>724046731
It's gooning with money, you're not supposed to cum
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>>724023748
My honest reaction
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>>724040829
ivan, if you got it for like 40% of selling price then very good job scamming retards otherwise u are dumdum lmao.
also
>worthless pixels
>real money
pick one
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I cared about CSGO market when I was a teenager without a job and thus did trades, gambles, whatnot. The moment I got a job I sold all I had and bought whatever I wanted with my salary.
Trying to make "wealth" out of virtual items is for third worlders and poorfags aka russians and brazilians.
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>>724048061
Isn't Yu-gi-oh powered by sweats who would actually buy the cards though when they're required like 3x of whatever the fuck that spark monster deck was
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>>724023109
the whole point of crypto is so that one entity can't rug you like this. ethereum was literally created because vitalik got rugged by blizz
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>>724046731
It's about as easy to cash out as any NFT. It has no value except to those interested in collecting that shit. The only one making profit is the one who's minting and hyping this shit to the masses, which is usually the marketplace itself.
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>>724048339
with the exception of metal coins, all money is worthless painted pieces of paper. they aren't backed by anything
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>>724048350
Yes, but some people would try to break into the game as an investment like they would with something like Pokemon or MtG and stuff like pic related would happen, where either a reprint or a banlist would cause all of their money to go up in smoke.

I wish that I had gotten a screenshot of this one just a few more days after the reprint, because it normalized at $5 before its next reprint. Now it's worth $0.67 and I'm almost certain that someone killed themselves over this.
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>>724048634
Which is why you have this in MTG, because they "pomised" to not reprint certain cards. So its only the really really old cards that are seen as an investment vehicle. And I feel disgusted even typing this out, but it makes sense with MTG.
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>>724023748
>>724023823
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>>724048792
ripping off geeks? those retards will buy into anything
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>>724031815
>10k for a shitty ass baseball stadium ticket
If I'm paying that much money, it'd better come with a baseball cosplaying slut who sucks my dick while I'm enjoying the game
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>>724035539
by the metric that they lost territory and they are never getting it back
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>>724021925
People should have known not to put more money into skins than they cared to lose, simple as
I spent about $500 and had about $800. I probably have $400 now and I'm just going to continue to hold onto everything. I believe it'll recover but valve might dump everything fully. Operator skins are down 40% which shows a general lack of confidence. Either way I'm too lazy to sell my skins on a third party site and money in my steam wallet will just be wasted on other games anyway so I'm in for the long haul.
It's fun having literal skin in the game. Not enough to stress me out, but enough to where I winced seeing that my knife went down another 20% from when I last checked it.
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>>724049125
Sorry fag, the only wieners going into mouths are the $15 franks they're selling at the concession stands.
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>Putin won't end the war
>Gaben drains their soldier count
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>mfw my TF2 inventory is still worth something
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>>724049581
same, but i don't treat that shit as an investment so idgaf if it goes up in flames too
just the memory of a friend gifting me a strange pro killstreak for my birthday or me winning an australium some years ago is worth more than whatever gay number a r*ssian wants to put on it
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>>724046731
stock market is a meme too. don't fall for it.
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>>724021925
While it's great to see brown people kill themselves, I've got to know: How can I make some money out of this? Am I buying cheap ass red knives or red guns?
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>>724049581
>got a $1500 hat from the 100% unusual bug
>can't sell it
I'm miffed
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>>724027040
>5 more days until crafted knives flood the market
Tick-tock skincel
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>>724022225
Dumbasses basically invested their future in virtual knives, instead of actual things. This is just the equivalent of a bunch of investbros acking themselves over their choice of Stock going tits up, but in this case their stock was virtual knives
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>>724023592
Maybe you guys should do what your ancestors did to the Tzar, you know.
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>>724031863
It's especially dumb because someone rich who actually liked the game would just get a few select items they personally like and not pointlessly buy thousands of knives.
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Are these skins like NFTs in that they're also functionally worthless? Because something is only "worth" an arbitrary amount of money if someone else is willing to pay it.
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>>724052834
Kind of, NFTs are at least unique. The worth of the knives was solely their rarity
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>>724049267
> and they are never getting it back
Russians called Kherson “forever Russian” until one day he wasn’t anymore
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>>724031478
They are, but when you're an adult having an exhausting war of attrition with a toddler it's not exactly good for your mental health or reputation. Even if the toddler has a bunch of adults lifting it up and wiping its tears everytime you knock it down, handing it an endless supply of guns and body armour and bandaids for its booboos. Man, what a ghoulish fucking war.
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Gaben sama, I kneel
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>>724052834
basically yeah, nfts were made to be a more universal, "adult" way of keeping your "portfolio" in one system if you were one of these retards who thinks that hoarding lootboxes is a job
except that they were given 2 years by the general public and still got no real implementation beyond a photo gallery
i guess nfts could make a comeback if lootbox systems in the future tried to get attached to the system but it has literally 0 upsides and the developer is giving up their total ownership over the product and spending extra money on servers for nothing in return
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>>724021925
Be grateful for these and other inflatiom sinks. Without them you'd stare down FIAT BRR!nter powered hyperinflation, infinitely worse than that of Weimar.
>but communism and capitalism!
If you argue "economic theories" in [current year] and still ignore the completely broken, rotten and usurious foundation that is the "monetary system", you aren't human, nor animal: you're competitively obedient, terminally domesticated debtcattle and someone's performatively agentic, selectively sentient and unfortunately animate property.
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>>724025176
>decent loadout
god you should actually kill yourself lmao
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>>724027462
EU has gotten a lot of companies to keel so far
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>>724034512
It's making fun of the aquanigger, you hopeless autist
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>>724022387
>the clown and laughing emojis
My sides
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>>724052027
yeah because buying bitcoin or fucking housing as investment is sooo affordable for mortals
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>>724052292
>he thinks those were Russians
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Someone's gonna threaten Gabe or sue or whatever and he'll make the crafted knives unmarketable. CS is still a casino first, it made too much money to keep this sytem
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>>724027462
Even Tim Cock KNEELED to CHADropean CHADnion, let alone Valve
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>>724022225
>have $50,000
>want to invest it
>buy counter strike skins
>hope they go up, they normally do
>market manipulation occurs
>people with enough money purchase the entire quantity of certain knife skins to control their prices
>knife cost skyrockets
>knives go from $50 to $5,000 over the course of a few years
>the only way to get a knife skin is by unboxing it with an extremely low drop chance, or buying it from another player either on steam or on external websites
>this funnels players who want knives to external trading websites, often associated with gambling
>people become addicted to gambling, valve receives the blame
>valve makes knives accessible by converting 5 skins of the "red" level rarity into knives
>red skins aren't only knife skins, but skins for all sorts of guns and gloves
>this means if you have 5 red skins, you can "sacrifice" them for a guaranteed knife skin
>this immediately reduces the rarity of knife skins, making the market crash
>people who unironically treated counter strike skin trading as a long term investment option are seething because the value of their investment has decreased
>$50,000 of knives might now be worth $10,000, because the knives you held on to are being mass produced and inserted into the market from people converting their red skins into knives
people made bad decisions and lost money
why you would ever genuinely treat video game skins like a real long term investment is unknown to me
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>>724023229
Thirdies quite literally do this especially for crypto games because the potential ROI is worth like 8x the annual wage in shitholistan
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>>724022387
>1500 knives they've been hoarding are now worth $15.
Nah, more like 750$
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>>724027314
They already have set the precedent to remove cases. Before CS:GO ended, they were experimenting with selling you the box with no key needed (the Anubis Collection) and more recently they now have the Genesis Link Terminal which allows you to roll it five times for free but you get an offer directly from Valve where the price is based on people taking/not taking their offer (this was the funny $1500 weapon skin being offered screenshot people had here).
I feel that they are going to make something different for the Armory Pass and the remaining case there will be the last legacy styled case they ever make. Legacy cases will still exist and people will still want to open them, so people panic selling their cases right now are very stupid and had I already not invested in cases at their absolute floor, I would be now because this is basically the last chance for something safe.
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I don't get it. If they had skins worth thousands, why didn't they flip them while they had the chance? Hoarding anything long-term is a gamble, especially when it's something that can be destroyed easily, just like what happened here.
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>>724023523
not a private gaming company, virtual items that can be equipped in a game owned by this private gaming company, that do not improve the gameplay in any technical manner, and only exist as cosmetic items
it's like, instead of investing into nvidia stock, you invest your money into an on-site clothing shop
>bro, i just bought all of nvidia's dress shirts, i'm gonna list these at $300 each and then tell the employees to go across the street to my black market dress shirt gambling shop, haha, i'm gonna get rich
>>nice bro, i just bought three pairs of shoes for $150, i'm gonna keep these in storage until the price goes up to $400, and then flip them for easy profit
and then jensen sees this and goes
>what the fuck? no more, all employees get two free clothing items per month
(that's basically how affordable knives become after red skin trade ups reduce their price)
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>>724062190
It's very blinding whenever you see an upward pointing graph with no clear market signs of it falling as someone inexperienced. A lot of these people that invested weren't around in the early days where massive weapon rebalances would happen causing markets to violently shift, like the CZ-74 nerf or the AUG buff (the AUGpocolypse). I agree with you and it's the same reason so many people missed out on selling off when CS2 was first announced. A lot people got IN when that happened and past that, which has historically been the worst time to get in.
It's just a lot of people that are just outright unfamiliar with how markets in general work, and as suspected from the fallout of this a lot of them are third-worlders that were living off of dreams of expensive cars and mansions instead of workable yet welcomed amounts of cash.
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>>724048086
Great post anon, thank you.
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This is why a global internet was a mistake.

Bar the third world from the first world networks and see this type of stupid shit stop. Scamming, ponzi speculation, etc.
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>>724023035
>Knives are worth a lot of money
Why?
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>>724048086
kek
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>>724025176
>more and more countries (and possibly the EU soon) have banned lootboxes. The genesis terminal and X-ray case is evidence of that. Valve's lawyers know what they're doing.
more and more countries are going after MTX in the game industry as a whole it is only a matter of time now. there is also talks about the giant amounts of embezzlement on the industry as a whole.
"how the fuck some random threw 10 million in a random game that barely functions? out of good will?"
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>>724021925
MARK THIS POST, YOU WILL SEE THE MARKET WILL RECOVER AFTER THESE "INVESTORS" KILL THEMSELVES, WHICH MEANS THE RARE, HOARDED ITEMS ARE FOREVER GONE!
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>>724021925
Not true, butterfly knives are still worth like $4k. I was hoping they ranked to sub-$1k.
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>>724025234
This, except I didn't even bother opening the cases, just hoarding them so a lot of tradercels just try to scam me so then I send them porn/gore. I don't even care for losing like 80€, literally this will be a nothingburger and skins will appreciate again.
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>>724023748
>Gaben does nothing
>wins
Gaben does something
>china loses
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>>724059858
>I am le pretending to be an unoriginal retard
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People were just buying expensive knives in hopes someone else would come along and buy it to resell it right?

How many purchases were done to simply use the skin in game?
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>>724022225
Gonna guess you don't have much money saved up or invested.
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>>724023592
Lmao, fucking losers, i hope u get all nuclear fire soon
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>>724027462
Kek, ignorant
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>>724066630
Right back at ya.
If the EU loses any more people it's fucked. Real estate prices are already dropping like in a rock in half the countries, meaning the state won't be able to pay nurses to take care of old people by selling their houses. People also aren't happy about mass immigration as a solution to this problem, but still refuse to breed. The West is chopped
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>>724032578
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Will knives and gloves actually tank in price to being affordable?
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>>724066787
Value is value. It doesn't matter if it's tangible or retarded. All that matters is what you can trade it for and if it will or won't become more valuable. People aren't rational, and neither is what we do or don't find valuable.
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>>724066942
No one knows for sure, all we DO know is wait 7 days a lot of people are sitting on untradeable knives now since if you market purchased items they are on a 7 day trade ban
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>>724066942
Affordability is subjective.
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>>724048061
What's even the fluidity of a million dollar knife skin? If the guy is asking for over a million and nobody is buying it then it's actually worth nothing
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>>724066942
People are either saying

>$2000 knives will just be $1800 now

or

>Total market nigger death knives + gloves going for under $50 at least

Theres a lot of people sitting on knives in their inventory waiting for their trade restrictions/market restrictions to drop
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>>724067115
Buy the dip?
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>>724067046
I would buy a knife and gloves if they wont both $100 each if they were say $20 or maybe ill even go to $50 for both
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>>724067115
Its very much gonna be option 1. Unaffordable knives will still be insanely costly if people truly made that much knives option 2 is nearly impossible since valve prefers the top option
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>>724067175
I'm not sure if a knife crash will effect the price of gloves. I don't know the CSGO market
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>>724066217
>People were just buying expensive knives in hopes someone else would come along and buy it to resell it right?
Yes, speculative trading. I see it in the /tg/ space constantly, currently it's Pokemon again. Last big shitfit was the EDH bans, they threw such big bitchy boulders about them that the EDH council shuttered and now WotC controls the format, the fox guards the henhouse. All because people sitting on Mana Crypts got assmad. Same story over and over again, I'm old enough to remember when it was beanie babies and pokemon cards the first time.
>How many purchases were done to simply use the skin in game?
Maybe a few sales to streamers so they can flex, but it's unlikely that they were sold to actual players instead of other speculators. Incestuous trading was probably more common than selling to an end user.
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>>724026110
>>724031169
are you two fucking retarded? you can literally see they use real money just by googling "cs skins"
how fucking dumb are you?
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>>724022225
Correct. It is speculative money, which means it wasn't real. They haven't lost anything because it was never there to lose. These skins never had value, because to have the value they put on it would mean there were buyers willing to pay those prices and there were none.
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>>724067068
>fluidity of a million dollar knife skin
Poor. Which is part of why valve is changing it. they get a cut on every tx so they want more tx and lower price points then a handful of tx at higher prices.
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>>724067304
You can also trade up for gloves too they are affected
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>>724067247
A person I know we aren't on talking terms anymore had a knife get in the $600-800 range.
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>>724067115
I hope it fully tanks badly, Id love to grab a cool knife/glove combo but even when its considered "cheap" its to much at $250 I need it to be under $100 at least $50 is best
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>>724047851
your brown
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>>724021925
Isn't it just the same as nft and crypto?
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>>724067630
Yep, and your USD as well.
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>>724048061
Just sell the "item" with a value of 1million speculative $ for 900,000 real dollar or even a bit less.
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>>724067115
We havent seen the damage yet there are SO much knives sitting right now and an influx of them on the market will utterly cripple it

The uber expensive knives etc etc wont be touched but already cheap knives will get cheaper and maybe even affect regular expensive ones too
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>>724067630
No, its just crack addict tier gambling on virtual inventory. Crypto can be used outside-source market, steam wallet can't. NFTs are supposedly usable in variety of games, items are game-specific and instance generated by opening mechanism with pre-set conditions. Hope that helps.
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>>724067630
Even more worthless than both of those. At least some crypto can be used as currency for some things. Video game weapon skins are not money and were never worth anything no matter how hard these people wanted them to be.
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>>724023823
Where is that one anon who was saying that the cs traders were all megarich chinks and arabs and this was just pocket change for them in a thread yesterday?
I wanna let him know he is a massive retarded faggot.
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>>724067115
I hope its option 2 I need the the skin market and all these faggots to burn
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>>724067864
You people don't understand assets at all. It doesn't matter what value an asset has to you, it matters what value it has on the market.
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My friends told me over the years that it was fine to buy the knifes because you could sold them later and sometimes even for higher prices and that I was being stupid, good to see this shit crashing now, fuck that
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>>724068087
I had a friend try to convince me to buy Bitcoin when they were worth fractions of a penny.
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>>724068075
I think my gut instinct of feeling that an asset has no intrinsic value and whose price is governed entirely by imaginary circumstances that can change when a small update is pushed matters more than the Econ 101 idea of 'but the market.'
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>>724067864
At least the minimum amount of USD spent on boxes average with keys for the rare shit. They are scarce and artificial scarcity makes things go up in price.
>1 key = $2.5, to get a rare drop maybe you need 15-30 boxes to get one rare drop and its not even the one you want.
>$37.5 spent to $75 or above spent, you want to at least break even on profits or go above profits.
>$55 for the lower option and $110 for the higher option.
>Steam takes 30% cut from marketplace transactions.
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>>724068181
>DUDE ITS LE FUTURE OF MONEY
>EVEN IF IT ONLY GOES TO A DOLLAR THAT'S A 100% RETURN
>YOU RISK NOTHING BY INVESTING THIS LOW
>DUDE BRO COME ON ITLL GO UP BECAUSE UH JUST TRUST ME OKAY???
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>>724068075
Fucking lmao

What market? There was NEVER a market for this. Ever. You have to have willing buyers to have a market, and you never did. Nobody was spending $1500 on a Counter Strike knife skin. Which means it was not worth $1500. If you could have sold your skins for as much as you claim they were worth, then you already would have years ago. But instead you stockpiled and sat on them pretending it had value and waited for the mythical buyers to eventually appear. You're still not learning the lesson Valve is teaching you here.
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>>724068271
If you were right, CS shit would have no value. But guess what? Markets determine value. Not your opinion on what should or shouldn't be valuable. Your opinions have very little effect on a market with millions of current and potential traders.
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>>724068075
Literally no human being has ever paid $20,000 for a cs skin and they never will either
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>>724067617
what about him?
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>>724068451
1. I'm not in the CS market, so simmer down

2. People do buy those skins though
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>>724068516
Is that a fact? Can we see sales on the market?
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>>724068503
He was right though, and you are literally watching in real time as your fake pretend "market" collapses around like you the embarrassing delusion it was always was. You don't have a grasp on reality.
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>>724068503
Seems like the people involved in the market all determined these items were worth thousands of dollars until a small change in how they were distributed wiped out three billion dollars in value. Why doesn't the market still trade these items at thousands of dollars like they did a week ago? Is the market stupid? Did they forget how valuable these items are?
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>>724068590
>people do buy those skins though

No they don't. And what is happening right now is proof of it.
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>>724068674
He's literally wrong. Items are traded in that market all the time.

>>724068702
That's how every market works retard
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>>724064808
You run faster with a knife
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>>724068740
They do though.
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>>724068702
The items never had value. People collecting them decided they have a certain value. And then never found a single person willing to pay those prices. Ergo, they never had value.
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>>724068846
You keep claiming those knives never sell. Where's your proof?
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>>724068773
>>724068837
Here you go, kiddo. You'll need it when your delusion and total failure to understand what a market is finally wears off.
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>>724068773
No dude this is like them announcing we've invented teleportation or we no longer have to obey conservation of energy and our understanding of goods and logistics changes so drastically overnight that it completely swings the market to adjust an entirely new world.

Like I understand market forces, what this is is an entire imagined world with a fake economy that can be shifted on a whim. Valve could literally just announce every skin is free and selectable from a menu with an update if they wanted to. That's what I'm getting at, the laws governing your economy are controlled by a few guys in Valve HQ that can literally rewrite the reality of how the entire market functions.
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How sound are the fundamentals of a market that gets built up around digital video game assets that the "investors" don't actually own, and are created in a system where the actual owners are in full control of the rate of supply?
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>Massive unregulated gambling/bootleg stock market in a game played by literal children gets nuked from orbit due to legal pressure

If you didn't see this coming from a mile away, you're retarded. I'm just shocked it was allowed to go on for as long as it did.
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>>724069090
Bingo. This never met the criteria for a market. It's just video game cosmetics. They never had value beyond the $2.50 it cost to open the case.
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>>724069171
Something that shocked me about going back to TF2 recently was seeing that most items from crates trade for only a few cents. Like I mean like, six or seven cents. Maybe an item will get up to the lofty heights of a quarter. Then maybe one or two items from a crate trade for a few bucks.

I figured every item in a crate would at least be priced slightly below the cost to open it. These aren't bad items, some of them are pretty cool and good looking ones that people seem to like. Kind of crazy how many TF2 items I can buy with the price of a key these days, like literally dozens and dozens of hats for $2.50.
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>>724069358
TeamFortress 2 is dead because trannies and groomers ruined it plus it was permanently online autism simulator game.
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>>724069358
Hasn't that been the case since they added item grades over a decade ago? Like trading cards and other collectibles, only the high rarity 'chase' items have any sort of market value to them
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>>724069670
I remember buying this for like $.30 when the update that added it dropped, which apparently was in 2017, so it's been nearly a decade.
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>>724069670
Nah over a decade ago I had an item worth $1.5 when I played it for a bit.
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Crate depression 2: Electric Boogaloo
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>>724024928
Used to be the nepo babies of Russian oligarchs and Saudi oil sheikhs who wanted pretty expensive things to flash their wealth in-game, now it's just investors buying from other investors with the intent to sell it on.
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>>724069995
Those Saudis were based one of them bought EA. Saudis are the only muslim country cooking hard now.
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You're laughing. People have been financially ruined, and are killing themselves, and you are laughing.
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>>724070623
Yes. I don't give a fuck. Don't gamble if you can't afford to lose.
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>>724021925
>retards are killing themselves over pixels
Maybe life ain't so bad after all
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>>724021925
40 IQ monkeys that invested all their money into pixels as an investment deserve to get assraped
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>>724069358
That's because TF2 is dwindling in numbers.
>>724069568
Also this. Trannies naturally eventually kill themselves, whom usually make up a portion of the whale crowd, thus no potential buyers.
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>>724025234
>unbox gaudy looking unusual hat in tf2
>sell it to the first guy who asks
>some tradefag acts like I commited infancide
What is it with some people and shiny stuff.
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>>724032578
>That's not true. I can open my monopoly box and say I have something tangible
Wouldn't say it works that way but ok
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>>724021925
can't beliefe gaben will kill more chinks and russians with no bullet fired lmao. it will be a genocide.
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whats hilarious is how many of these delusional losers actually think anyone is going to buy the dip other than other losers in the same boat trying to stay afloat. the ship is sinking and they're throwing the salt water at eachother in an attempt to pass blame lol don't fix the whole, just keep posturing
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Why are chinese so pathetic? With western marketplaces the update only really caused levels of drops akin to when Operations released, so like 20% drops on common skins, but with bugmen on buff163 they're selling everything for -80% as if the game was dead
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>>724073751
sorry for your loss
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>>724022856
>aka, nothing.
Poetry.
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>>724023748
>>724023823
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>>724074256
I don't care I made enough over the decade of caring about virtual camos, I just find it funny how spineless these bugmen are. They really thought everything will just go up to infinity, with common playskins going up 300% just in span of this year alone
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>>724023592
whelp, pray that trump can make Zelensky and Putin bend the knee i guess.

>>724025176
have they fixed the bot-nets that auto-kick you from pug games because you aren't part of their bot-farms?

Because the last time i tried to play a gun game, i got one round by myself against bots, and then both teams were full from the 1st second of the next game, and i got kicked after 30seconds. From that point on i got auto-kicked from every lobby i tried to join for the next 10minutes until i gave up and haven't tried since. Is that still happening?
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>>724074357
i agree they should keep holding their worthless skins to show some spoine
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>>724032187
>It's actually illegal to own stocks in China.
if you're not chinese* , same with property.

>>724073751
well apparently the russkies were doing it too, but everyones desperate to survive in the second and turd world countries.
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>>724069004
>>724069014
It's pretty simple. If you can trade a thing, it has value, and cs skins are traded, meaning they have value. Simple.
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I would invest in gold but I have no idea how to do that
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>>724072634
Monopoly money is literally tangible by definition. You can touch it. It exists. Dumbass.
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>>724030245
Retards who thought they could sell it for $2500 down the line
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>>724074778
Buy it.
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>>724068846
>The items never had value
education

the value is whatever the collective ascribes it. just because a good percentage reacted in kneejerk fashion, creating a selloff, does not invalidate anything
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>>724074854
Oh really where nigger? How do I know I'm not getting scammed? Where the FUCK do I sell it afterwards? What does the paperwork look like?
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>>724032187
>>724074590
It's perfectly legal for Americans to own stocks in Chinese corporations. You can buy shares of ten cent right now. They're not communists.
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>>724075127
>Paperwork
Holy shit nigger
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>>724022225
For some reason vatniks and jeets' first instinct when their scam ops crumble is to ack themselves. They don't try to start up a new one, they don't try to find a real job, they don't even go move back in with their parents, they just immediately jump straight to suicide. You saw this when crypto crashed last month too.
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>>724075127
>How do I know I'm not getting scammed
Here ya go gorilla nigger
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>>724075127
weigh it, scrape it against ceramic, dunk it in nitric acid
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>>724021925
Did anyone e-famous actually die from NFT induced suicide when it was monkey.jpg?
Why would it be different when its knife.jpg? If anything, this market was smaller, right?
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>>724022225
>This isn't real money right? It's "potential' money like how game devs cry about "potential" sales?

Real retards spent real money on third party markets (illegal as per Valve terms of use) to buy weapons, to resell them to bigger fools, for bigger prices.

Turns out the biggest fools were those who bought a few days ago, and the price is only going down, because Valve doesn't actually want you selling their in-game items, that THEY OWN AS PER THEIR TERMS, to other people on another market.
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>>724022387
That's a very lame way to fake you death to avoid lawsuits, because you were selling a "how to get rich playing video games" courses that made people broke.
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>For almost a decade
>>>>You're a fucking retard if you spend money in a gacha
>>>>>>>>>>>>FPSfags prove themselves somehow even more retardeded
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Cryptobro suicides were funnier.
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They should have been investing in a broad skins market etf so that their portfolio was protected against volatility like this
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>>724031614
This is coming from a third worlder whose only customer base could be oil sheikhs and Americans
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>>724076703
I've bought like a dozen games just from the random cases and shit I had from playing counter strike for a while.
Free money just for playing a shit game.



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