marathon nda playtest breadstill stuck at traxus rape farm?
>>724030358How's the food animations?
bungie marketer on usaid payroll. dont reply.
I'm morbidly curious what they even changed but I didn't bother downloading the new one. Gimme the deets b0ss
No one has bothered to leak gameplay like they did with the bf6 nda beta lolz
This will be the rope that hangs Bungie.
>>724033359we respect the game and it's development :)
>>724030358I'm stuck on that nucaloric contract that wants you to run a fucking circuit around the whole map of perimeter interacting with 5 different terminals in one run. Might just have to bite the bullet and solo it
I'm in the playtest but havent gotten a chance to play yet. Are contracts still boring as shit "kill 10 enemies in X location"?
>>724033813I'd expect it to have the Tarkov staples like 'kill enemies in (location) using (shitty weapon) [headshots required]' and possibly the mmo 'bring me 10 robot asses'
>>724033813nope, they're "get that key from that UESC commander", then go scan some shit on other side of the mapoh, and only one team/player can get it, fight for it to the death
>>724033589mamma mia
>>724033269pacing, TTK, there is solo queue, scav runs, dynamic weather, LOTS of really cool artsy cutscenes and lore shit
>>724033359It's just the alpha from the summer but with slightly better looking environments and shorter TTK. It still sucks and will kill Bungie, and I'm all for it.
>>724033589Bungie isn't making it anymore, Sony spun it off to a new company called Team LFG.
What can Sony even do about Marathon? They can’t cancel it, they’re like $200 million in, but it’s just an absolute disaster
>>724035682Force the 850 people at Bungie to at least make a good singleplayer campaign for it in like a year. Crunch like crazy, fuck them and their knitting classes.
>>724035682if it really is as PvE as people claim, adding single player is mainly a matter of stringing together mostly preexisting content to create a few standalone missions. If anything, it could be wrapped up as both an exposition piece and tutorial.
>>724035682its pretty good as far as extraction shooters go + it will sell to loyal bungie drones
>>724036075>+ it will sell to loyal bungie dronesThere are not many of those left, Destiny 2 has the lowest player count it's ever had.
>>724036204For a game approaching 10 years old, thats pretty good.
>>724030358arc raiders raped this game so hard
>>724036252Just last year it was averaging 500k online players, now it's down to like 20k. Bungie is a massive studio, they're fucked when Marathon releases.
>>724035682Same thing they did to Concord, it's inevitable that they cancel the game. The only question is when. Better question is what Sony is going to do about Hermen Hulst cause how much can they tolerate his incompetence before they have enough?
>>724036323>arc raiders raped this game so ACK-
>>724036467George Droid looks much worse
>>724030358im having fun
>>724036594my niggerlicious nexon shill, im sorry but there is no defending this
>>724036793I don't like Nexon, I just hate Bungie.
>>724036594a big problem is that extraction or comp fps shit wants uber low settings and the artstyle demands super EPIC fidelity graphix because its aping high spec materials, like in sportswear or car racingclown bitch look horrid as a player character model but in the cinematic it looks fine, very cyberpunk
>>724035613>>724033589Still all Bungie people, headed by Bungie people. A Smash+MOBA shit feels like its DOA. Supervive is literally that.
How long is this shit going? I got it but haven't bothered to install it yet due to being in the NG4 hole.
>>724038364till wed
>>724035682Tarkov is still infested with cheaters, and its not releasing this year so they can drop it when people are bored with Arc Raiders and hope they actually have a more-fun gameplay loop.
tried it holy shit it's not great. im not one to "muh grafix" because its subjective, but hell the ui is hard to navigate due to how poorly laid out it is as well as how visually hard it is to see anything with clarity. the world has slop items that do nothing beyond selling for pennies, every gun looks the same, and yes i know that a lot of this is a knowledge check, but its extremely jarring. feels like theres forced mouse accel, and not being able to strafe while sprinting feels gay. i was really looking forward to this too they should have released the test before the arc test (which btw i went into arc expecting to hate it)
>>724038906>every gun looks the samestraight up lying lol, arc shill
These threads are not organic and you are all faggot shills
tranny slop
Is it better than the first demo?Because that was a game that didn't know what it wanted to be and was just stuck spinning tires in the mud.
>>724039067I immediately followed up by saying I know its a knowledge check you fucking mentally stunted cunt. but looking at a gun gives no indication of what it does and artistically they do look all the same to the point of confusion.>arc shilloh wow this guy MUST be posting on behalf of marathon's mortal enemy. you fucking faggot, your game's shit, this has nothing to do with anything else. however, arc releasing has only made marathon seem even more garbage.
>>724035682I will be the devils advocate and say that there is a good game somewhere here. I'm getting Vanilla Destiny 1 vibes where you can tell there is a framework of a game if the devs give enough of a shit to fix it. I think Marathon could fill a good niche of difficult FPS PvE coop experiences but the emphasis on PvP kills any fun.
>>724042264I think the Arc PVE will get boring so maybe they can shift some of the Destiny Strike/Raid content into Marathon mechanics.>get a Labs-esque keycard>load into a PVE only strike with real mechanics This alone would be huge for the game, the PVE in Arc unless it has squad-only instanced content will be over quickly. People can kill a Queen with basically just an inventory full of grenades from the test, full game it will be open season
Played both playtests for Marathon and ARC.I'll honor the NDA by only talking about ARC.>ARC has models/textures that don't look like an LOD failure, so that's nice. It also doesn't have weapons that look straight out of an isometric shooter like Synthetik.>ARC movement is a little slow but not sluggish, and while there are some audio problems you CAN hear people sneaking up on you. >It also has great PvE. >ARC's artstyle is neat but a little lacking. >ARC's 3rd person POV is a drawback, but is comparably negligible.>ARC's NPC aircraft don't look retardedMarathon frankly should've been a singleplayer shooter a la Halo and it would've been perfect.
>>724030358boring dogshit exfil niggergame
>>724043030I won't argue with anything else you said but the 3rd person POV is something I think might break the game in the long run. I compare it to PUBG where once forced FP POV was introduced I simply couldn't go back to 3rd person, I think it's possible to balance around it if the TTK is long enough or using mitigation like the instant building in Fortnite but as a general concept I'd say 3rd person is a detriment to any game that is both PvP and high investment (as opposed to something like Marvel Rivals where it has very little impact).
>>724045969If they don't fix the low graphics setting difference in how shit renders, it will be a huge dealbreaker. Also plenty of jank spots to camp extracts in third personhttps://youtu.be/aK6m9ia3KC8?t=19
>>724030358>request access>nothingwell fuck you too bungie
>>724036594>be future>able to make an avatar, completely customisable>makes it black
>>724030358>reboot of Marathon>looks nothing the original>has no connecting story to the original>is an extraction shooter adaptation of a largely single-player series of gamesWhat's the fucking point of even calling it Marathon if it's going to have literally nothing in common with its progenitor?
>>724043030If this was just the main pvp mode of a larger game that included a campaign and pve modes that'd be fine.
>>724035682Unironically just cancel the whole fucking project, issue a statement of heartfelt apology to the fanbase saying that they would rather can not put out a game rather than a bad one, identify and fire every every Bungie executive and production team member who had an active hand at turning the development into a shitshow, and start over.At this point, saving face and integrity is more important than saving money.
>>724045969Yeah it's something that might prove to be an issue, but I'm sure they could add 1st person POV at some point or something, and the shoulder swap bind helps a bit. The game just felt good to play unlike Marathon though which is sad as someone who used to love Bungie. I wonder if it's on the same engine as The Finals (probably).Biggest issue for ARC right now is probably the foilage stuff mentioned by >>724046689, and while the devs mentioned revising graphics already, just straight up having missing cover on lower settings in a PvP game is terrible. I feel like some other game had that issue (HLL? War Thunder? Don't remember right now)>>724047352If the core game was something like a hardcore PvE shooter (like a single player Tarkov set in the Marathon lore/universe), Sony would be cooking with what I think to be at least a unique "new" IP, if not something really intriguing. It's a relatively untapped market as far as I know.
>>724047557you just sound scornedtheres this bandwagon that the game is horrific dogshit so bad that it actively harms the user and as a 3rd party guy who got into this test by accident I just have to wonder what they did (to this game in particual, I know about the destiny shit which is unrelated to this product) to warrant such a negative response
>>724048224On one hand Bungie has been killing any and all good will their namebrand holds for the last 5 years or so. On the other hand you have Concordfags who just want to see another big flop. The result is that any discussion of the game is plagued with shitposting. I don't think Marathon will be successful in the way Bungie needs it to be, they are probably fucked, but it's not a bad game
All they had to do was a faithful remake of the original trilogy, but noooooo, Bungie decides to be drooling retards and make a fucking extraction shooter instead.
>>724048776they dont even have halo anymore
>>724048864I reckon he was talking about the Marathon Trilogy
>>724036252>PoE hit records after records>Warframe is stable>Fortnite had huge record just this year10 years mean nothing now since gaming is stagnant2005-2015 huge progress2015-2025 slight regress
>>724035452so in other words its still a big piece of shit lmao
what does the dcon actually do
>>724051304it's a mailbox
The early game questing in this game sucks donkey dick I can't believe they're trying to gauge new player experience with this. Casuals especially braindead D2 players who need carries in raids are going to hate this game.>Quest tells you to kill npc>kill npc>boot file>go to this place and hack it in 5 minutes>its on the other side of the map>get into gunfight>ai spawns on top of you>run around with your last 2 minutes trying to find the PC>no wiki, no guides, NDA chat is blocked until they manually add the roles (They can't even figure out how to automate this? Are they fucking retarded?) They just put in Tarkov style quests that don't hold your hand which is great for people who love to figure stuff out but 99% (no hyperbole) of their playerbase will quit before even figuring out this quest that's like, 5 quests deep.
>>724036594nice, just needs a kirkinator DLC so we can play as all of the yakubian cyborgs
arena breakout mogs arc and marathon desubeing able to quick equip presets is so amazingfilling magazines/meds/items from a simple menu is going to be the standardand the quests are actually decent and not cbt like tarkov
idk man I had fun with the open playtest and I'm having fun in this test. Wiped what felt like an entire lobby with my friends earlier. We killed like 9 people it was insane
>>724043030>It also has great PvE.lol, lmao>ARC's 3rd person POV is a drawback, but is comparably negligible.it's the main issue
I signed up for the playtest because I heard they were just letting anyone in and I still haven’t been given the go ahead…
>>724052552I got in
>>724052552Sign up through steam
>>724047350Same reason why Prey 2017, VTMB2 and Homeworld 3 were called as suchCutting the marketing cost by tricking nostalgia retards into buying completely unrelated product
Do they still have stolen art assets in their multi-hundred-million-dollar videogame project? They didn't even bother to remove the watermarks on textures last time I heard of this game.
>>724047350so they can keep the rights to it and bank off nostalgia
>>724054009they got removed obviously
>>724035682Cry babies are whining about how arc raiders should be a pve game, Marathon should just cut pvp entirely and be the high profile pve extraction game or at least make pvp some sort of high end high risk optional thing.Marathon can't compete with tarkov and arc raiders so their best option is to just not compete at all.
>>724049936>slight regressSlight? SLIGHT? GAMES ARE REGRESSING FASTER THAN THE HARDWARE THEY ARE SUPPOSED TO RELEASE ON, IT HAS GOTTEN SO BAD THAT AVERAGE DEV CYCLE IS 5 YEARS FOR A LIVE SERVICE LIFE CYCLE OF 6 MONTHS, GAAS SECTOR IS OVERSATURATED WHILE SINGLE PLAYER GAMES SECTOR IS A DRY WASTELANDGAMING IS FUCKING DEAD STAGNANT WITH INNOVATION IF YOU HAVEN'T NOTICED, JUST A CARBON COPY OF A CARBON COPY OF THE SHITTIEST GAME MODE MIXTURE IMAGINABLE, BATTLE ROYALE-EXTRACTION-LOOTER SHOOTERALSO DON'T FORGET FUCKING MTX AND EYECANCER SKINS, YAAAAAAY!
>>724049936Warframe probably has less daily players than destiny 2 even today, the difference between them is that digital extremes hasn't been cannibalizing their main game of years of devs to work on Vanity projects to build up the company's perceived value so they could sell it to some chumps. That and Warframe has a fraction of the destiny budget, it still is a fancy AA PS3 game
>>724038219Yeah there's a slightly cartoony vibe to the player characters in game. It doesn't work, a lot of it is the lightning though and they could fix it somewhat
>>7240430303rd person will literally ruin the game you fucking retard, it's not a "negligible issue". After the first week of release when the game gets even slightly sweaty it's just gonna be people camping corners and killing you before you can even see them. It's a major issue that they could only fix by switching to first person which they won't do
>>724054551It's not the lighting. The lighting is pretty good since the first playtest. It's the models. The reveal trailer shows that this style can work but the current character selection is bad. Only Blackbird looks decent.
>>724054669lmao
>>724054756Maybe it's both idk, I haven't logged in yet, is there a reason they can't have better models? Why are they cartoony? 10 year old characters in destiny have better faces than these marathon toons
>>724054669Peekers advantage on 12 tick servers with 3rd person is absolutely fucking brutal. "Swing or be swung" is so fucking real in ARC Raiders it hurts.
>>724036793>>724038219All of these woke games look so fucking bad.
>>724037376That's a man.
>>724030358>9 hours>not even 100 repliesholy moly this shit is deader than dead
>>724030358I feel bad for the people who worked on the concept stuff and trailers for this game. The game itself is such a nothingburger visually and gameplay wise
>>724055724Not an anime game plus bungie can't afford shills like arc raiders
>>724054081they should remove the rest of it and keep working on destiny 2 while they still have the chance to save it.
>>724030358Can i still apply
>marathon>look inside>not marathonThis is on the level of making a paintball game with sugary graphics then calling it "Soldier of Fortune".
>>724058687there is no way you are getting paid enough to shill this trash
>>724059128Nigger can I play this shit or not
>>724054210The pvp in this shits on arc (not a high bar thougheverbeit) so it should be the other way around
>>724061676It's unironically too sweaty. I don't know how Bungie expects a game like this to have mass appeal. It's gonna scare off the noobs and uncs and anyone who has a job.
>>724061838Idk, I'm a scrub and I'm having a good time so far. The TTK is just high enough that you don't get oneshot by anything besides a shotgun to the face I don't think, but it's not so high that you can get the drop on someone and still eat shit because they can just whip around and outshoot and kill you, which is good for a reactionlet + aimlet shitter like me. It hits the right sweet spot for me, I just can't play shooters where the only relevant skill is how good your aim tracking is. I must be the odd one out though because I actually enjoy destiny pvp as a casual shooter while most people seem to hate it, and this feels very similar to that.
I for one am happy everyone is trying to make their own extraction slop, that means we'll get more kino like Quasimorph or Duckov from cross-pollination in other genres. Don't really care about PvP but this formula makes the looter shooter genre actually interesting. Instead of pogfacing because you just looted the purple dildo that gives you +3% damage to undead on weekdays below 15% health (better than you green colored dildo), there are stakes to looting and also other things to loot besides weapons and armor.
>>724062586>I must be the odd one out though because I actually enjoy destiny pvp as a casual shooter while most people seem to hate it, and this feels very similar to that.very good look for marathon then if you're the kind of person going to bat for it
>>724030358if it doesn't have a dope ass DnB soundtrack i don't carehttps://youtu.be/qXfdneeIZnw?si=hdnFy4m3EQqUQHXD
>>724063575wtf, rude.
>>724052127I dont fucking care about being able to quick equipping presets nigger. All these p2w tarkov chinese clones look the same (uninspired garbage) and made for poor stinky third worlders
>>724054669I told the guy who made CrossPlanet 3rd person would kill his game and he was in total denial. It now sits at 0 players.
>>724065116I'm sure if it was first person it would have 1 million active players.
>>724065116I personally think grossplanet died because it looked like an absolute dogshit ps1 game and being 1PP wouldn't save it
>>724054669You can fix it by making people tankier so you don't get one shot, you don't HAVE to go first person, and it's not like it would be immersion breaking by adding stronger shields, lots of things you could do
>>724066297No, you can't "fix" it by making people tankier, this would make the game heavily gear based which was actually one of marathons problems
>>724035682>they’re like $200 million inWhat did they spend the money on? Diversity lessons?
>>724066297They did that, you can't get one tapped in arc. Those people are just autistic and will have a mental break down because they don't like any sort of change so they don't want to play in third person.
>>724066516>game about finding and crafting gear is gear basedLmao, you could also add more movement and utility so it's harder to actually shoot someone too, making it a little bit more skill-based.Example: someone shoots you, you click the panic button that gives you an overshield and smoke bomb which lets you go into cover
>got two kills>rez both teammates>we finish the contract>exfill successfullythat was a good game, now I'm scared to queue up and lose all my gearthough I've seen certain player loot where it says the item is "borrowed" and will return to the user after you exfill or die, wonder how you get that
>>724065404It didn't just look like dogshit. Before he pivoted it was going to be a mobile game.
>>724066760It's if you pick up a weapon dropped by a team-mate I'm pretty sure
>>724036467streamers dropped marathon in one day after being paid to play itevery streamer played arc raiders until the final minute of and the playtest had 1% of content
>>724066717>you can't get one tapped in arc.you can get "globalled" in arc with grenade into shotgun, I was instantly killing people all playtest with that combo>throw nade>jump in as it explodes>1 tap them with shotty to finish them offit was near instant and was even worse with revolver headshotit might be different with more gear
>>724066893could be, I guess it's after they looted my teammates bags and got their gear
marathon will fail because its annoying to look at, that's allthe aesthetics are too weird and not 'aesthetic' at all I like them as a novelty, but I wouldn't bother playing the game to experience them
>>724066951The steam charts do show a decline though.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BOB6lvI3Y8cThings I want>training ground>PvE-only mode
I liked Marathon until I actually played an extraction shooter. What a terrible genre. There’s not even a point to the gameplay loop, going in and collecting trinkets.
>PvP game>1/3 matches someone is cheatingSane people just stick to single player games and online co-op games/mmos.
>>724035682>They can’t cancel itThey absolutely can. SEGA did just that with Hyenas
>>724068382sega is unironically run by the yakuza, even back in the glory days, and will do whatever the bosses say. sammy primarily makes gambling equipment and has basically infinite money, they can absolutely afford to take risks and cut their losses. sony is a fully legitimate corporation and even though they're a big one, the rest of their business model is predicated on selling devices that allow you to consume media and play games that they also publish. it makes them money to put out a bad product because it might still sell devices. cancelling will sell nothing plus they lose the investment in the media.
>>724035682If this shit was PvE, I would be playing it every fucking day. The core tropes of extraction shooters are not really for me, personally. I've played plenty of PvP games and there's a big difference. Losing in Overwatch or Rivals or League is not such a big deal because you can easily and immediately say "Oh, I should have pushed/retreated here" or "Oh, I should have done this", etc. You don't have that here. You're stealthily crouch walking in a dark building and get one-shot out of nowhere with no indication or time to react. It's not fun at all. Not to mention there is practically no onboarding right now and no practice or test range. I get it's in alpha, but still.I can see this having a big release but I seriously doubt casual players are going to stay very long between getting curb stomped and having a full wipe every 6 months.
I'm retarded, where the FUCK is the FTL chip???I keep killing players and then dying to some bullshit NPC coming around the corner
>>724035682Realistically they're just waiting to see if they get lucky and it sells better than they think it will. They cut advertising, obviously, hence why you haven't seen many threads here lately except irony-poisoned retards.
>>724067927>not drum and bassdead on arrival
What is up with the lack of backpacks and healing in this play test? I have barely found any when looting at the POIs and only have found them on players bodies and even those are limited. I remember having a shit ton of backpacks and healing stocked up during the beta up the point where I had to sell them to make room in my vault for upgrades and other items. I really hope this isn't to incentivize people to rush into pvp just get healing even if they don't have any during a match when trying to avoid pvp. Not that I hate pvp, I just don't want to deal with it sometimes and sneak by people and extract.
>>724068983i'm with youi'm not interested in playing a sweaty pvp game, it encourages thirdies to cheat and ruin the fun. i also don't want to be forced to make friends just to play with small groups of randos. massive team shooters like battlefield are fun because you can develop your own playstyle and contribute meaningfully or not if you want.3v3 compslop sucks. i have more than 3 friends who want to be on the same team and of those like maybe two want to take it seriously and the rest want to relax and blow stuff up. these kinds of games force me to pick and choose who my irl friends are which is turbo gay
>>724069076nvm found it and then proceeded to get camped at the escape.awesome, I love extraction shooters
>>724068965>sony is a fully legitimate corporationThey killed Michael Jackson.
>>724066753Completely retarded take. All this shit just to fix an issue that should never have existed in the first place. No reason for this game to be third person
>>724035452Still the same boring AI?
>>724068983Don't you need full wipes for an extraction shooter game? It's either that or you have no reason to play, I think some progression stuff should persist but not everything. Anyway the reason they are making these AAA extraction shooters is not because they have wide appeal and are casual friendly. It's because there really isn't any AAA in this genre and on console. There's literally no competition except each other, and even then, one is first person and the other is third person.
this should have been a destiny/division clone desu it would have been way more popular with it being pve and an optional pvp mode
>>724070647Why should Bungie copy its own game or one of its many clones? Why would they want to cannibalize their own destiny fanbase? They want PvE people on destiny and PvP people on marathon. Plus maintaining PvE based live services takes way more manpower, you think they could handle two? Of course not they can barely handle one
>>724069525I need to remember to ask a dev about anti-cheat because Destiny anti-cheat is non existent. Niggers bragging about doing it in dmg's twitter replies. That's how bad that shit is.>>724070601>I think some progression stuff should persistAgree, but right now a full wipe is what's being said. All your gear, faction progress, and upgrades all gets reset. I fully understand the appeal of extraction shooters but it is a niche genre and I'm not sure if Bungie is going to be okay with just that.
>>724070857They don't want anyone on Destiny, it's dead.
>>724070857the amount of people that actually like extraction shooters is extremely small, the game is going to have fuck all players because theyve gone for a genre that is only mostly populated by tryhards with a lot of time on their hands. normies will not be playing this
>>724035574Still muh hero shooter slop
>>724070990You don't know what a dead game is really like. Look up the only other game that the arc raiders devs made to see what dead really is. But I see what you mean, after the latest expansion the game is borderline unplayable and just not fun >>724071268Maybe, maybe not, the point is there are no AAA offerings on console. Plus bungie has a massive fanbase on console, most of the destiny is community is console casuals, they could pull some numbers there
>>724071609>Look up the only other game that the arc raiders devs made to see what dead really is.>18k players for a 9 person shooting gamechrist you zoomers and your "dead game"ive played MP games where servers are only half full during certain times of the day. get the fuck out of here with your stupid line of thinking.
>>724072139Yeah those games don't get updates so they don't have to keep paying the devs. I know dead games better than you, I've played PS2 mmolites where all the people online were in your party and you had to set it up so go fuck yourself
So are you retards gonna post any leaks or what?
>>724072334and youre a retard if you think a game with 18k players is dead you mongoloid
>>724072519im trying to figure out how to get the cutscenes out of game files anon, when i'll get them i'll post them
>>724072519I got the intro and other stuff but I'm not gonna post it. Trolled epic style
>>724072519no one cares about this shit game, tranny shill
>>724073725but enough about arc raiders
>>724073760that too
>>724036594
mediocre shooter :lmediocre shooter, Bungie :o
>>724073890but enough about haylo
>>724069382You're really supposed to buy that stuff I think>>724072519Too busy playan, I'll blur out all the identifying shit and post vids after the test
>>724073949and Destiny and Marathon (old)
>>724036594>>724074364This looks so bad that I would almost assume its a cruelty squad esque parody, what the actual fuck.
>snoys hired cp managers to wrangle threads about concord 2
>Arc raiders shills spamming CP in the marathon threadsNot beating the astro turfed allegations
>>724030358I'm having fun. Solo's is easier than teams because most randos are brain dead and never played an extraction shooter. I just crouch walk the perimeter and clear the lobby before looting. <spoilers>DMZ was better than tarkov
>>724075418I haven't played yet but you're probably better off forming groups in the discord rather than going with randoms
>>724075559Nobody in the discord is teaming up. I tried. That place is a slug fest because they still haven't added most people to the NDA chat. Obviously good team composition, communication, and game knowledge would be OP and allow you to dominate lobbies.
Bros if you find a blue container you can hack do NOT fucking hack it. This shit just dropped like 8 bots with 3 of them being the shielded guys right on top of my fucking head. We cleared them out and immediately another 4 spawned on top of us and wiped us. Do NOT touch the blue containers you have been warned
I'll have fun with both marathon and arc raiders!
>>724075418Having a blast? UP YOUR ASS???
>>724035682Just convert it to a single player game at this point. Vaguepost with terminals and tie it in to Marathon Infinity. Get the Youtube lorefag community on board to do your marketing for you.
>>724078283The AI is good enough that it would actually work as a pve game.It's one of the few games where I actualy try and sidestep every AI encounter because you always leave them busted up to fuck.
>>724074687>cp managersYou can get paid for that?
>>724036594feels like the character designer has a massive boner for the Die Antwoord chick
>>724054010Marathon is too old for people to have nostalgia for it.
>>724047350Why do you even pretend to care for a game you never knew or remembered until the name was used again? Same shit with Prey posers.
>>724081159not after mandalore made a video about it so all the "BUT AKSHUALLY I WAS ALWAYS A FAN, I PLAYED IT ONCE ON MY DAD'S MAC" people will come out of the woodwork
>>724081493Prey posers are sad because their only game is an ok-ish 7th gen shooter and they keep creaming their pants over what Prey 2 could have been (totally real, trailers are NEVER fake or misleading)and then Prey 2017 came out and it's one of the best imsims of the last decade but it has bad rep because of the retarded naming choice.
>>724048776>faithful remake of the original trilogyThe Marathon trilogy would be better served by an unfaithful remake. Marathon 1 in particular is borderline dogshit with how bad the level design can be.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f4F4V-wJ_J8
Why didn't I get an invite I wanted to see how shit this was for myself man.
>>724030358Couldnt give a single fuckJust waiting for Arc raider
>>724058126it's over broyou gotta let go
>>724038219The main reason she looks a far better in the cinematic is because they gave her regular eyes. I'm guessing the filmmaker they hired realized that the ugly ass in-game eyes weren't at all appealing, bungie should take the hint
>Hero shooterWHY would they do this
>>724084540Decades of "musicians" sitting around in their DAW and thinking to themselves "how can I make my glitchy shit sound even MORE glitchy than that other Scandinavian composer's music so I sound the most unique??" have gotten us here.
>>724081493I actually have very fond memories of playing the original Marathon on my stepdad's computer in the late-90s, fag.>me remembering the Misriah food distribution center massacre
yea im sorry im not feeling itYou can STILL see the hero shooter completely conflicting with the initial premise of the shells and the digitized consciousness going on in this game, it doesn't make any sense and it doesnt make me feel any better about potential of this piece of shit having a storySome of these assignments feel niche focused and people are gonna have to look up guides and people are going to be forced to do things they absolutely hate and it'll turn off a lot of peopleI see a market for other extraction shooters but this feels so muddled between wanting to be a focused extraction shooter that dabbles in occassional ideas of quests and assignments that are on the surface interesting but just lead to being frustrating. If its a killing thing then focus on the killing, if its not that then give people some kind of basic looting goal instead of going around the map and interacting with things.Also there's literally no introductory tutorial or anything build into the game. The information you need is all on the discord that you get into when you're in the playtest. I don't know if they've actually bothered to make some sort of a tutorial for a genre that a lot of people still haven't played or understand, but considering this is the same company that works on Destiny 2 I'm not expecting them to explain anything.I don't know who this game is for still
>>724088105Hello Black anon here.Indian men smell better are more handsome and more manly than this timmy.
>>724089462why are you that why
>people will get up in arms about Bungie making a game with a designed art style for copying someone's work>the *won't* get up in arms to anywhere near the same level of anger for AI generation, which does exactly the same thing and fully automated
>>724043030>and it would've been perfect.oh, really? it was that close to a "perfect" game?
I requested access 1 hour ago and still no key. I am getting angry now >:(
>>724088105This feels like the initial reception to destiny 1 to be honest. People didn't know what to do when they beat the campaign. "Now what?" They literally didn't know how to play and enjoy the game, then the raid came out and it clicked for a lot of people.I think destiny 1 got a lot of flak and for the most part, the only deserved criticism was the abysmal/nonexistent story in the campaign. I don't think this will be on the same level and have the same influence as destiny but still
>>724030358finally got accepted, see you bros in the game
I don't play games with tranny artists or devs
Fucking finally man. I had to solo queue it, no fucking random squad wants to go run a circuit around the whole map looking for random computers to interact with instead of doing literally anything fucking else with our limited time in a run. I got it on the first try though it should have been the first if I hadn't died on the last objective because I got spotted by bots while stuck in a fucking 20 second long uncancellable downloading animation
>dead player turns into a grey duffel bag>not a pulsating bioplastic cocoon crawling away slowlyAND NOBODY EVER CARES ABOUT THAT KIND OF SHIT
>>724030358maybe it's because im playing on pc, but the shooting in bungie games is dogshit
>>724086314t. Henry Rollins
where is my damn invite. There is no way these guys have that many people trying to get in. Nobody cared about this game months ago.
>>724094925>Nobody cared about this game months ago.It's a Bungie game, half a million people joined the discord on the first day waiting to get in. How retarded can you be?
>>724095559>half a millionYou big fat liar.
>>724030358game so ass I completely forgot it existed
>>724095903I looked it up and it was actually 400.000 not half a million. It crashed the discord server too. The 300.000 right now is obviously because people left when they didn't get in
honestly incredible they had to autocomplete 2 contracts now because the people they invited into the beta are too fucking ass to do them
They invited me but after the first dogshit test I dont even want it
>>724033589Bungie hung itself years ago,.>>724035682Identify the people at fault. Launch them into space.
>>724036793>but there is no defending this...at least it's not concord.Well, it's practically Hyenas, but it's not concord.
>Had a character creator but changed it to a hero shooter after the Riot Valorant faggot joined
>>724042264They've had practically unlimited resources. They don't have what it takes to fix it. I don't think they even know what the fuck is wrong.
>>724042429>I think the Arc PVE will get boring so maybe they can shift some of the Destiny Strike/Raid content into Marathon mechanics. I mean you do know this is what they said the marathon map was like right?
>>724049936SLIGHT. I'm an idort. Take a look at my PS5 library. Take a look at my Xbox library. You call this shit SLIGHT?
>>724094925everyone is waiting for arc raiders and tarkov. theres gonna be like 2 people playing this.
>>724096217the traxis introduction wasnt hard it was all the people swarming one spot
>>724073774>if only you knew how bad things really are
>>724096816>i have to le fight other players..... in a pvp game??
>>724096752tarkov players already playing tarkov, and nobody is waiting for arc save for some nexon paid streamers
>>724097265yeah let me just 5v1 every attempt thanks, they have the option to only let 2 or 3 people who have the contract in 1 lobby
>>724097654get gud, i ratted the fuck out of the quest as void
>>724097879No you didnt. You are a liar.
>>724097636>and nobody is waiting for arc save for some nexon paid streamersholy cope. 180k players in a free playtest with one map and like 5 guns. under every comment for arc raiders and stream was nothing but positive comments, meanwhile the opposite with marathon. only shills and paid bots are excited for marathon, such as the OP in the thread.
>>724032000none, its a medkit. standard "injection" animation and shields is like a tiny laser you shine on yourself
>>724098110this is you
>>724030358This game feels very rough, for an early 2026 release they need extreme polishing. This feels like it needs 2-3 years more of dev time.
>>724096217I was wondering what happened with that. They realy just autocompleted it for everyone?
>>724068304>There’s not even a point to the gameplay loop, going in and collecting trinkets.A million times this. In the short film they put out, Alberto Mielgo captured the pointless mundanity of the extraction gameplay loop perfectly, I almost wonder if it was a deliberate critique on the genre itself.Look at em, just mindlessly picking at scraps for the sake of it.
>>724098110Arc raiders is the most shilled game in years. It's a guaranteed bomb by proven to be incompetent devs. Even Bungie is better than them
>>724100794>Even Bungie is better than themLet's not be hasty
>>724100794>It's a guaranteed bombuh huh
>>724100794Do you listen to yourself sometimes anon, you sound so haughty. The playtest was the only thing that I actually enjoyed in some time - I completely tune out the garbage character design and its still decent - far better than Marathon, too.
>>724100794Shroud, THE number one shill, stopped playing Marathon as soon as his paid shilling time was up. Meanwhile Shroud couldn't stop playing Arc Raiders for the entire weekend. Marathon is going to be the big fat flop while Arc Raiders shits all over it.
>>724036594These are unironically worse than Concord's character designs
>immediately 4 shill repliesThey aren't even hiding it
I just played the test... holy shit this is one of the worst extraction shooters I have played in years. What the fuck is that TTK? What the fuck is that ADS speed? Like with Arc Raiders I could enjoy how fucking casual of an extraction shooter it is but Marathon is just shit. Then again what should I have expected from Bungie. A company that hasnt made a good game since 1996.
Dire Marsh is unplayable, how's Outpost?
>>724100773babby's first meta analysis
>>724100794bungie jew spottedyou're getting laid off next year
>>724030358I hope Bungie dies. This vandalization of the marathon IP to put out an absolute dumpster... vile.
>>724030358>thief not available>it's the best looking shellwhy are they like this?
>art director's primary design style is photobashing>game's aesthetic looks entirely photobashedboy i sure hope they give credit to
>>724100773I heccin love criticism of thing while being worst example of thing
>>724072519Seeing as the image i posted on /dg/ is in here, sure.
>>724101292streamers played marathon for several days you disingenuous nexon shillremember what else shroud shilled the fuck out? this lesbiancore shit with even more hideous artstyle than arc than also failed
>my team just got mogged 2v1 by a fucking rookI wish I could disable crossplay so I stop getting matched up with these mouthbreathers but matchmaking already takes 5 minutes at a time
>>724036204is the end of the graph uncompleted or actual nosedive?
>>724036204god those first few weeks of forsaken and dreaming city were absolute kino
>>724106970>streamers played marathon for several days you disingenuous nexon shilllol no they didnt. the test ran for a month and at best they dropped it within a couple days maybe 3. and the test ran for a month and nobody gave a fuck. nobody clamored for people to stream marathon.>remember what else shroud shilled the fuck out?LMAO. you retard. Shroud didnt even play his own game. he absolutely did not shill the fuck out of it. it was so bad in fact, he was playing deadlock more than he ever played his own game on stream. his own chat was calling him out on it. compare that to shroud playing arc raiders nonstop for the 3 day test despite it being limited to one map and 5% of the content at best. nobody cares about marathon.
>>724030358buy an ad
played 5 rounds and i dont think extraction shooters are for methe atmosphere in the world is nice (although there are a ton of areas with horrendous visibility issues) but the gameplay loop isnt appealing at allif i wanted to rummage through random boxes to sort through useless shit id go to a garage sale with my grandma
fuck it, here some leaks from the NDA discordhttps://litter.catbox.moe/qisv61gku4r7vqj4.mp4
>>724108570the UI is ugly
>>724108828It also sucks to use, playing with it feels terrible
>>724107985Nosedive
https://litter.catbox.moe/uawgjefrwhpsbkg3.mp4
I for one am having fun, though the performance of the game on my poorman's card is not ideal (90 fps average in-game). Can't even get 144 fps in the menu for some reason.This is my first extraction shooter game.
https://litter.catbox.moe/kd6mfx5y57fx3sqy.mp4all faction intros are kino, but in the playtest only traxus, cyberacme and nucal have the lore quests
>>724036594is this cruelty squad 2
compilers confirmed
>>724109805the traxus one is the best
>>724110065Cool
>>724108516This. I don’t know who the gameplay loop is for in extraction shooters. Why do I care about loot and weapons?>to more easily shooter other players and get more lootwhy? There’s no win state, there’s no grand story mission to grind for, no base to build or whatever with the loot. What’s the point of extraction shooters without these sort of elements? It’s like casino PvP.
>>724110419my favorites are arachne, nucal and sekiguchihttps://litter.catbox.moe/m2i3jeqhd5t0ndsk.mp4
>>724110553there is usually endgame content in extraction shooters, like labs in tarkov or outpost in marathon playtest, eventually you're supposed to be able to "beat" tarkov in 1.0, in marathon there is marathon ship stuff
>arc raiders has gear based matchmakingSo that game has like a month's worth of enjoyment max
>>724110553>There’s no win statethere is a win state. extracting without dying. its a BR but you have a chance to keep your gear. why do you not understand this? whats the win state of battlefield 6? a screen at the end that says you win?
>>724110553They honestly should get rid of the hero/class system and just have people hunt for cool looking gear and clothing for your character.I don't see much longevity in this game if they keep going the hero-shooter route, though they seem pretty invested in that already.
>>724110553>there’s no grand story mission to grind forliterally wrong
>>724108516This is how I feel, if they made this like Marathon 4 and had a good single player campaign, it would be awesome. I just don't give a fuck about extraction shooters and this is not fun as it is.
>>724111032Yeah but why am I keeping the gear? It’s not even like, “I need to search for a specific assault rifle with a pulse attachment to do the boss in this mini raid”.
>>724078693What, you've been doing it for free?
>>724111298you get better gear to unlock better gear to progress through more difficult maps and quests to eventually do endgame content
>>724111298>Yeah but why am I keeping the gear?because you start with nothing and you keep progressing to higher tier equipement. its the exact same as leveling up in cod to unlock weapons or perks, just except this time you can possibly lose gear so there is that high-risk that some people like. at the end of the day its a shooting game where you level up your equipment and character to better shoot people like any other game in the market.
>>724111032>why do you not understand this?You're a Bungie employee, and you should kill yourself. Extraction shooters need to have fun and suffering, Marathon only has suffering and will be Concord 2 because of it. I'm glad you will lose your job and Bungie will finally die, you faggots got away too much bullshit for too long.
>>724110591>genetics>robots made from the same shit your shoes are?
>>724111509read the reply chain. he is talking about extraction shooters in general not marathon. can you not read?
>>724111601idk man, read on their website. its real sekiguchigenetics.jp
>>724111125They wanted to open up new maps with ARG elements in the game didn’t they?The problem with that is 400 people sit on twitch for 14 hours and figure it out.
>>724111659Kill yourself, troon
>people being mad that the game isn't perfectGames like this take time to get good. They will probably add a lot of content post launch. It's pointless to judge the game as a whole right now. Remember, it isn't a sprint it's a....... (pic related)
>>724111509>>724111718the seething nexon pajeet is still here, lmao
>>724111762Online games usually take 2 years to get good, but if you don’t have a 7/10 base, they don’t hold.
>>724098283You mean there’s no boxes of nucaloric cobless corn in the game?
>>724111762Marketer kun sama plz.
>>724111816Bungie is 70% Indian at this point, kill yourself
>>724111421I don’t see how endgame content, is going to diverge from the PvP elements and maps. Endgame content here will probably be rummaging through the Marathon wreckage and running into compilers while 12 other players lurk somewhere, right?If they did destiny’s dungeons or something to splce up the PvP, sure.
>lets talk about this closed beta game on 4chan but not leak anythingholy shit this is a blatant marketer thread
>>724111762Destiny never got "a lot of content", in fact, they only take content out as time goes on . Edge of Fate nuked just about everything from Beyond Light and after Bungie needs to die.
>>724111989if you weren't a black gorilla nigger you'd be able to see that there are leaks in the thread
>>724111762>Trust the plan You and your company are fucked, this is Concord 2 and will only have Sony rape you guys.
They need to change the name of the game for marketing reasons too.Call it "Marathon Alpha" or something, have to go BACK to the search bar and type "Marathon game" or "marathon bungie" or some bullshit or else you get bombed with videos about running and sneakers and indians.
>>724048393>ConcordfagsTORfags
>>724112449Umm... sweetie... it's working as intended. You're playing as George Droyd made from sneakers n shieet.
>3rd person shooteryikes
>>724112685its first person tho, you're mistaking it for ACK raiders
I hate balding
>>724068965>it makes them money to put out a bad product because it might still sell devices.Or it can harm their reputation further, thus making them sell fewer consoles than they would have otherwise.
>>724112853that's what I'm sayingand the style of AR is even more gay than Marathon, it oozes libtardation
>>724113143>heres my twitter headcanon with no one to quote on or to verify
>>724111873pretty sure I've found hamburger juice in a locker somewhere
>>724084540Meh.This slaps though.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BOB6lvI3Y8c
I wanted to play Thief but she's not available
>>724030358Just play the REAL Marathon trilogy.
>>724113143>$40Games like this need to go way beyond free2play, they need to play2getpayed. I would not even install this shit unless the devs buy me a coffee or something.
>>724113569What's good about it? Aren't they just generic doom-like shooters?
>>724113713I mean the usual loop nowadays is essentially a second job where you have to do your dailies n shit to get glass beads to finish your 20 dolla season pass n shiet.
>>724113773They're "what if doom was for intellectuals?"It's doom with lore terminals and better horror atmosphere. Think middle ground between Doom and System Shock.
>>724036594the guy on the left and the guy with red eyes are the only ones that look remotely interestingeverything else is just visual vomit
>>724109854No, it's Concord 2
>>724098283is the healing system still just aping Apex? I managed to get into the NDA
>>724113773doom with schizophrenic deep lore for people that enjoy loretism. Unironically would be a hit for the modern crowd given how much everyone sucks off Destiny 2 lore
>>724114380>No, it's Concord 2
>>724036594They need to fix these character designs right away.
This NDA playthrough stuff, we're back in the same bucket from 6 months ago.What are we waiting on here, vague youtube videos saying "oh they really changed this upsome of the UI looks way better"?
>>724038219This is not an excuse. Overwatch 1 had high fidelity everything speculars and a flawless look while performing incredibly well. That's what AAA graphics engine development actually looks like and the fact is that any failure to make appealing art under a similar stylized restriction is purely on the shoulders of whoever's making it. You do not need enthusiast hardware to see high fidelity textures the developers can sacrifice portraying that detail on unimportant details. Marathons cinematic looks good because it's a completely different studio model and purpose. Bungie could functionally replicate those models in-game with appropriate trade-offs and still have the appeal from that CG film.
>>724114570>had to delay the release because people were shitting on it so badlyyeah its gonna flop
>>724114570Development is going great, everyone is so excited for it!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1LiTw3RMEhc
So many chuds filtered by this game.>add pve onlyYou're retarded and should play something else>aesthetic sucksNope its dope>quests are too hardSorry kiddo, I've enjoyed them so farThis game is fucking awesome. I've never disagreed with this many people at once before. Genuinely gooped by how much hate Marathon is getting. I have not been excited for a game since the 360 era and haven't bought anything for full price since then either. I cannot wait to play 1.0
>>724114874Ayo why space robots overheat after running for 10 seconds.
>>724115130>You're retarded and should play something elseI will, just like everyone else>Nope its dopeMaybe if you're trans>Sorry kiddo, I've enjoyed them so farThey seem really bad so far, I have to collect a keycard from spot on the map and only one person can do it? Shit designYou will lose your job and I will be very happy when you do
>>724115225It's just a way for them to limit how fast you can cross the map, it allows people to get away and reduces third parties.
>>724115130buy an ad
>>724115280Just kill the other players and take the keycard you dork. How much handholding do you need? This forces player to player interaction. Everybody I've played with in the playtest has been psyched on this game. Enjoy your singleplayer tarkov, bud.
>>724115382>doesn't hivemind with the rest of the virgins on 4chan>is a shill
>>724115518you're a blatant marketer, buy an ad
>>724115459Why not have loot that forces me to want to engage with the other players? I don't give a shit about a keycard and some xp, I want to top tier fucking loot. You never played an extraction shoot and neither has Bungie.
>>724113419So, they’re just setpieces? What a shame.
>>724115382>>724115546Buy Ad Broke
>>724114874did they slow everything down? i swear i remember the other play test videos having characters be much faster
>>724115546I would think this is ragebait usually but I believe you people are genuinely so mindbroken by someone disagreeing with you that you think they're a Bungie employee
>>724112995This is what arc raiders reminds me of, absolutely revolting aesthetic.
>>724115763marketer != bungie employee buy an ad
>>724115574>>724115459I'm still curious here what is the point of looting? The guns don't get upgraded, the attachments are just neat but don't do anything, backpack and shield upgrades are just neat too
>>724115695The whole thing looks really funny. Just a bunch of geriatrics in clown suits shooting each other with LEGO guns.
>>724115574Kill players for cooler gun? Are you braindead? The xp from the quest gives you more vault space and shit.
>destiny 2 died for this
>>724114874>13 minutes of nothing happening
>>724115695i noticed this too, i think they're looking to make it more tactical? but it's more like you peak out shoot, and then go back into cover, rinse repeat
>>724116193Destiny 2 was dying to begin with anon, don't cry cause it's over and all that
>>724115695>>724116217it is slower with faster TTK now, more in direction of tarkov than apex
>>724116429>faster TTKinteresting, so that's why I've read people say they die right when getting in.
>>724114874>guns are still hideous>wallhack faggot still in the game>stamina meter>lowering ttk in genre plagued with hackers run by company incapable of pwning hackersI actually do agree with slowing it down slightly because the movement was terrible anyways and larping means a lot for this kind of game. Not seeing how this is supposed to redeem the rest yet.
>>724114435never played apex
>>724114294>>724114523I think the lore-tism is what ultimately doomed the company because the madmen behind that (the owners of the studio itself) are probably the most paranoid men in videogame history. Whether is it fear of spoiling their lore-tism or simply an inability to communicate their intentions, they've proven time and time again to treat anyone else they work with poorly. If it was up to them, they would have made esoteric ARPGs for eternity but they know they need some sort of prop (a videogame like halo, destiny or marathon) to get people to fathom their 2deep4u Iceberg. Over time, they have less and less interest it personally maintaining the prop as so far to shove away the other co-creators of halo, rip off Artstation for concept art, and finally outsource almost everything to Indians and Coreans.
>>724117307Halo does this too where it has some of the deepest lore imaginable behind the veneer of an 8/10 FPS.Marathon's the same, except here that's what was driving the core of the conversation with the new game.Because established FPS and Extraction players are only going to judge it on its gameplay merits and offer advice like, "Where is proximity chat?", which doesn't matter in the end.The only way Marathon will do well is if it honesin on that market, which is a very thin playerbase and doesn't offer the 120,000 daily players they want to maintain.
>>724113143These days you can't charge for this kind of slop. There's just too many free alternatives.
>>724117827what free alternatives are there in extraction shooter genre besides arena breakout chinkslop?
>>724113143on one hand I get it, give sony a game that they aren't really giving them their best ideas.but this will definitely be doa
>>724117307>>724117682Didn't Bungie fire most of their old lore writers?
>>724117951DMZ
>>724119703DMZ is literally dead
devs really coming here to fish ideas.heres an ideadelete every main characterPay some furry, anime and mecha artists to model all the assets for the gameThat's it.
>>724120079until next year when the next DMZ comes out which will also be F2P
>>724114874Damn this is an easy win for arc raiders
>>724120264you stole this idea from chinks!
>>724121174Bungie has no problem stealing
>>724069316DNB is tranny-coded these days
Anyone who has played this new playtest. Cancel this before it becomes another Concord? Or can Bungie salvage this until a release in February next year?
>>724123067I'm not gonna bother with playing this game but I can definitely see it reaching a ~50k concurrent on steam then slowly tapering off to low 2k's within 2 years but who knows.
>>724109345>>724109805taken down by bunjew
>>724123067100% salvageable, game is fun. if they keep cooking with content for it it'll be solidconcord was a extremely hard monumental failure to repeat, this game has at least some modicum of fanbase and target playerbase
>>724123913https://litter.catbox.moe/9n7pojwcp5ma2gmk.mp4https://litter.catbox.moe/36m8lhblpbb5i56e.mp4rehosted, they've might've gone down because i set them by accident to expire in 1h, those should last 12h
>>724123067PvE feels pretty good so just pivot to that. I think it would be easy to create PvE only areas and slowly inch away from PvP. The PvP is just okay. I think adding more robots and the actual Pfhor could save the game by carving a niche of PvE fans.
>>724124812i would love if they just slowly pivot the game to fully be PvEbasically become Destiny but not shit
>>724124812there is more enemy types than from last playtest, and the Marathon encounter is supposed to have some significant pve encounters. Compilers are confirmed to exist but idk if they're in this playtest
>>724120264Imagine a full-on nucaloric cat cosmetic set. I’d jerk myself to it.
>>724030358I thought this was cancelled?
Would you?
Looks like they unlocked a bunch of stuff and a new map called Outpost appeared.
>>724048776>>724082330Reminder that there is a modern(ish) remake of the first Marathon as a mod for UT.https://www.moddb.com/mods/marathon-resurrection
>>724124905Destiny PvE is for babies. You can stand still and enemies will take like 20 seconds to kill you. This has some teeth to it with lots of traps and environmental hazards which I really like. But currently it is all in favor of PvP which feels kinda wasted.
>>724118963Some of the og Marathon team left to start a new company called Double Aught and make a game called Duality. But they couldn't find an interested publisher, and the game was never finished. I read somewhere that Greg Kirkpatrick, main writer of Marathon, left the industry and went back to being a schoolteacher.https://www.tumblr.com/kinsie/184454527692/a-selection-of-images-from-duality-a-cancelled
>Go to play game>Can't even accept the EULAWell fuck this game
>>724126415Have you tried scrolling through it, retard-kun?
>>724121697only tranny obsessed retards say things are trany coded
>>724126959yes, still can't accept it
Dire Marsh is so much better than Perimeter
>>724123067It needs some form of PvE engagement. Even a mercy system would do wonders. Right now, I just don't see this expanding past a niche audience.A little advice for console or open mic players: make sure prox chat is turned off. It was enabled by default for me and I think that was a contributing factor to me getting fucked in my runs.
>>724127445Depends on what you mean. Dire Marsh is better for PvP. Seems like Perimeter was designed to be training wheels for new players, it is so hard to find players with the map being split into chunks.
NOOOO I LOST ALL MY GOOD GEAR BECAUSE I CHASED A GUY AND DIDN'T NOTICE I HAD NO AMMOOOO SO I JUST PEEKED HIM AND STOOD THERE LIKE A RETARDAAHHHHFUUUUCK
>>724054308CAP LOCK IS CRUISE CONTROL FOR COOL!
UI is terrible.There's nothing to use your better gear on but just fragging other shells.Assignments are a little more involved than the basics I expected, but they're still incredibly boring and unexciting.Not sure who the hell this game is for right now.
>>724115763See I actually am a Bungie employee and disagree with them, I really don't like what we've made. Doesn't mean it's necessarily bad, but I hate it
Outpost is easily the best map and Bungie is retarded for not making it the first impression. If the Marathon ship map is anything like it then it'll probably be pretty damn cool.
>>724129318It is cool but it is also a shitter filter. It would be too hard for a first map
>>724129421True. They just need to back-port gameplay ideas from Outpost into Dire Marsh and Perimeter cause right now the way those maps just funnel everyone into the POI's is boring as shit. The first time I got into the Pinwheel Ship was when I ran into a group of 5 other solo randoms and we all via prox chat agreed to team up and get inside. The access cards, the locked exfils, the environmental hazards, the verticality, all combine to make a good baseline for unique interactions that the other two maps just dont have. Dire Marsh in particular just feels like it attracts very degenerate playstyles of constantly beelining to the nearest gunshots and third-partying everyone. Even Perimeter has at least some decision-making in how to rotate around because of how divided the map is. Both maps need like 1-2 more unique events or elements that can mix-up encounters in unpredictable ways.
is it too late to get access to the beta ?
They made it acceptably playable now which is a good baseline but I don't understand why they needed this long to get the gameplay right.These dudes made Destiny.
>>724130323Dunno, just try your luck. They sent out like 15k invites I think, test ends on the 28th.
>>724130551Alright thanks, i sent a request.
>>724130529>These dudes made Destiny.Theyre not there anymore lmao
>DestinyWas it ever good?
>>724131065Not really no it might have had more of a legacy if there was a conventional campaign like with Halo that you could play through with buddies anytime or if the PvP was good. It played like an even gayer version of Halo Reach online though. Being a GaaS inside-out really destroyed itself.
>>724054669hows this any different than some rat in tarkov?the TTK is high enough and the maps are large enough where its wont be a problem.
run with no gear bros ww@
>Still no invite after 3 daysI might be the only person who actually WANTS to play this game and I'm shut out, feels fucking bad man
>>724131756just run rook twin
need frens to play withwhen is the actual game supposed to come out?
holy shit it's rickWUBBA LUBBA DUB DUB
>>724105107>bungies' z-fighting>is it z-fighting or did they meant for it to look like this
>>724036594Ngl the artstyle is starting to grow on me
>>724086314you think THAT'S glitchy? try this https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j81fYZVvFh4
>>724133120the same thing happens with the pattern on void's sleeve but it's fine on the first person model so i'm gonna say no
>>724073774fun stream
>>724036594It looks so ASS
>>724123067The only way I'd believe they can save it is if they publicly announce they actually plan to release it with 3 more years of development and this is actual a very rough test.This is basically their final product, its not really up to par.
>>724123067It literally just occurred to me that they want people to pay for this game
>>724123067I would already buy it in the state it's currently in
>>724123067itll be like overwatch 2 where no one gives a fuck about apart from casuals, trannies and sunk cost retardsthe cadence will be the same with updates every few months because sony is already 200,000,000usd deep and if they pull out itll look bad on their earnings call
>>724134989What's wrong with that?Keeps most shitters and hackers out.
>>724135557>when the devs themselves are the shitters and the only hack here is (you)
>>724135557Multiplayer games live and die based on playerbase size. Not enough people are going to buy in to a sweaty tryhard hellhole like this game will be.
not playing extractin shootersnot giving bungie moneynot getting out of this chairsimple as
Oh it's destinytards crying about this game?That's why there's so much hate and shitposting about this?Makes sense.
>>724137065Yes, they think that Bungie took attention away from Destiny 3 and put it into this. Also Destiny 2 is in a state so everyone is upset at it.
to be honest i personally cant seem to feel the 'thrill' that extraction shooter players often refer toin game i feel one of two things>i will die and lose my loot, not very fun but i also dont really care>i will extract with my loot... and win the opportunity to come back to this exact dichotomous choice of outcomes once again by starting another match?
>>724137279Beyond Light is Destiny 3 retard, fuck off.
>>724137373This is the exact problem the genre has right now. The genre needs to figure out some large PvE element to tie the loot collecting into, THEN it’ll be worth playing. No it’s not about proxy chat and in-game markets and all this fucking nonsense. It’s about having something to work towards with all this loot. MMOs and ARPGs figure this out decades ago.
I'd like to play the map more slowly and tactical, 20 minutes isn't enough time. Make it 30 at least.
Just a reminder that competitive faggots ruin any video game they can get their hands on, never let them take over or listen to their whining.
>lose demo run>suddenly thrown into matchmaking with no weapons>most of the loot is random trash nonsense you have no clue what it does or heals>whole full expedition with a fucking knife
>>724030358>extraction shooter playtesters with way more experience tell Sony what is wrong with their game>Sony:N-no...we're going to keep it like this....>game gets made fun of because it plays like shit and everything just goes downhillJust another day at Sony.
The player is incredibly squishy and slowA bunch of mobs catch you in the open without fully kitted shield ypu are instantly dead because you overheat instantly and die
Is jumping as floaty as it was in Halo/Destiny? Fucking hate that shit.
>>724139720No, it's more heavy. Fairly similar to Apex, I can actually feel a lot of Apex inspiration in Marathon.The way the characters walk and run, the ping system, even the menus.I wonder if they will remove the fall damage down the line. No reason to be there really for what amounts to humanoid clankers.>>724138245I like it, adds a lot more challenge.This game as it is right now is really meant to be played as a team and you can really feel it when you run into a coordinated crew.
>>724127445Dire Marsh sucks dick. It keeps spawning half the fucking lobby right next to each other so you get stuck in a 3v3v3 30 fucking seconds into the match>erm that's le GOOD actuallyYeah so much fun being forced to fight because I got shot at immediately after stepping foot in the nearest POI, just so whoever survives the fight can get immediately third partied by the other team that happened to spawn ever so slightly further away.
It's a shame this is just an extraction shooter because the general aesthetics of the game are very nice. The cutscenes for the factions are really nice. Here's Vulcan, the Traxus representor.
>>724047350>>reboot of Marathon>>looks nothing the originalThis is by far the biggest question I have for this project. It's so endlessly fascinating. The art style of the new game is interesting but has literally nothing to do with Marathon. So why did they slap the Marathon name on an obviously completely unrelated concept and then start trying to write lore via an ARG for it? It could not be more obvious that whatever game this is started life as some untitled pvp shooter thing (whatever dumb microgenre people want to pretend it is).Just questions upon questions with this game.
I like what I see, the game is visually very appealing especially on a OLED monitor with HDR. the problem I have is that it's an extraction shooter and I still can't enjoy these games fully with the exception of Hunt: showdown which I haven't played in quite some time but I played about 500 hours of it off and on since EA launch. I don't get loot fear or anything like that. I guess the best way to explain it is that for some reason I can't form an attachment to these games. ARC Raiders is coming up and I played the server slam for 15 hours and it's the same thing, I like the visuals and the audio is great but no attachment. Maybe people snort cocaine when they play these games? I don't know
>>724036467have you considered that a game can be fun despite its graphics
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>>724067927>Things I wantA Marathon game>Thing I getNot a Marathon game
>>724141946No you don't
>>724071609https://youtu.be/ZLbvMWEAoyY?si=hTVCPxDtZPFydXxL&t=1407>You don't know what a dead game is really likeOkay well take it from the studio head of Bungie. Destiny 2 has LESS players now than what he's talking about here. It's at its lowest point in history. The game is in the studio heads own words weeks from shutting down if it stays like this.
>>724141946No you don't, you just want to complain.Nobody, and I mean nobody, cared about Marathon at all until they announced this game.Nobody ever mentioned Marathon in their favorite list of games.Nobody remembered Marathon before this.Most people haven't even heard or played Marathon.
>>724030358Marathon Bungie tranny shill thread
>>724144050I care. I can post my Phorums account or XBLA achievements. People do care about the game even if you never heard of it before, just like how I'm sure there are hundreds of games that I don't give a shit about and never heard of that have dearly beloved fans. That said, I don't dislike the reboot, but you don't need to run defense for Bungie on this and shit on anyone who likes the OG games.
>>724140620Oh ok, neat. I quit Destiny five minutes in because the floaty jumping made me irrationally angry. Just thinking about it already wants me to saw my dick off.
>Playtest is Europe/NA onlyOh guess that explains why I haven't got in. Being an aussie is suffering bros
>>724144921I got in from Taiwan. Ping sucks but I can still play even without VPN
>>724145020Guess bungie just hates me then since still no invite even after requesting from steam
How we're feeling about the abilities and cooldowns?I'm not a fan of having to know each character's skills and how it affects everything, especially since they will definitely keep adding new ones to "keep things fresh".Just found out if you ping a Recon it gives away your position to the enemy.
The art is obviously very high quality, especially the cutscenes. Cutscenes are way too fucking ADHD and incomprehensible. I love the quality of the character models, especially the robots and their animations.On the other hand the world is plastic and lifeless. The movement regressed back to Destiny 1 and you can definitely feel it on M&KB. The gunplay is fine but for some reason this is also a hero shooter so have fun with some invisible Hunter sneaking up and dropping your ass (I've done it several times already). Forced aim magnetism is a sin.All this good art wasted on a mediocre extraction shooter slapped with heroes and Bungie doesn't know what to do with this game. Running around a map feels so dull.
have they changed the tranny designs they stole yet?
I legit thought this game came out and flopped a long time ago
>24 hours>still no inviteOh yeah? I don't even want to play it anymore. I hope it flops. Fuck you all.
>>724137683Does the end goal activity need to be PvE? Tarkov has Labs if that's still its purpose in 2025 and ARC Raiders is looking to have something similar but there might be some secret endgame robots in that map.
>>724146423The cooldowns are fine. My friend was bitching about it but it's not Apex and having short cooldowns would be a bad idea. On the other hand, the ability balance makes no sense. I've played enough Dark and Darker to know an invis on demand character will never be balanced.
>>724140775I think you're right yeah, though the map has better buildings and scenery it's actually impossible to explore without running into 2 teams at minimum.
>PvP game>Gamemode discourages PvPI can't help but view a genre like this as for people in denial about not liking PvP. If you would rather collect garbage and run away or camp so you can 3rd party someone, you just don't like PvP. And if you like PvP, why play this awful mode when you can play any other FPS with normal game modes? I'd get it if this was a cheap game with low risk, but it seems like they want this to be mainstream. They're aiming for way too small a slice of people here considering how much they've probably spent. Probably should have either gone with a conventional multiplayer approach, or fully into co-op PvE, not this half-assed shit. But it got rebooted internally so it undoubtedly had and has direction problems>>724102008Bungie's been dead for well over a decade anon. Don't mistake the corpse being puppeted for Bungie proper
>Bungie's been dead for well over a decade anon. Don't mistake the corpse being puppeted for Bungie propertrue. the sooner this flops and sony shutters the entire company, the better
>>724147813They were dead for the past 15 years. If you take a look at how many developers from Halo CE were involved with every Halo up to Halo Reach, you'll realized it barely had any of the OG still there working on the franchise by the time Reach came out as it had a slow but steady bleedout. Count in the fact that Bungie was facing internal drama to eventually firing Martin O'Donnell in 2014. Even if they stuck around with the Halo franchise (which they didn't want to even before Halo 3), the results would've been the same of the dev studio husking. But alas, all major dev studios like this happen with very few exceptions.
>>724048224>I just have to wonder what they did (to this game in particual, I know about the destiny shit which is unrelated to this product) to warrant such a negative responseDid you already fucking forget Marathon being delayed in the first place because they got caught red handed just straight up stealing stuff from the internet to use as textures?Plagiarism, ESPECIALLY in a massive AAA production that's supposed to rake in massive profits is way more than enough reason to want to see something fail, doubly so when stealing from some literally whos on the internet.
