LARPing furfags

I don't wanna hear about how socialization is dead in vidya from this website
the most asocial place on the internet
jesus christ trying to find people to play with in multiplayer game generals is almost impossible
I long for the days when I would just go to recruitment boards in forums and join random ventrilo/mumble/ts servers and meet new people

I downloaded a free to play game on my phone and it's a massive socialization hub. So it seems alive and well.

>>724046275
If you're like this, I hate you and you deserve me and the others leaving you.

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>>724046275
>vidya isn't social any more
>no, I won't install discord

All the extrovers keep moving to the next game every week leaving people that only want to play the game

>>724046275
talking to people is scary

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>>724046540
who the fuck wants to meet people in this day and age? I see more than enough of you assholes when I go outside

>>724046275
Extroverted people like to try new things and keep it fresh. Launch day MMOs are filled with people looking for a novel experience, hence the burst of friendliness and energy, which the introverts still feed off of, feeling great. Then the game gets solved and starts to settle into an optimizing autism game, and the extroverted gamers move on, while the introverts develop an attachment to the game and accept stagnation, now with no positive people to draw energy from.

>>724046730
This.
Can an anon explain to me why so many people on 4chan hate Discord besides le evil trannies?

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>>724046275
>say something
>immediately you trigger someone and they ruin your life

Political correctness, busybody moderation and Discord.

>>724047285
Discord is bascially worse version of irc and ventrilo.

>>724046275
Matchmaking. It's a system that doesn't value your time and doesn't value your fun. Because you don't pick your games, you have no internal investment in them, and because it's not drop-in/drop-out continuous play you never build up any kind of rapport with anyone playing with you.
In fact the game's community ultimately trends worse and worse, with almost complete non-communication often being preferable.
>>724047285
Because it's not in-game and has nothing to do with the game.

>>724046275
Autism

>>724047285
It's fine if you're using it to talk to friends you already have, but I don't know how you can socialize in public channels which either have thousands of people talking over each-other constantly or are complete ghost towns.

>>724047490
>spamming LFG Uldaman in Orgri for a hour somehow value your time and fun

>>724046275
Matchmaking
Bring back server browsers

>>724046730
>>724047285
discord is the opposite of being social. you hang out only with your homosexual super friends in your little cloister playing approved games. You place a barrier of joining that gay discord between you and meeting new people and having new experiences with them. You're intentionally isolating yourselves from the very thing you claim discord is for, and you do it by using discord.

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You don't understand, you are only allowed to say NICE things.

>>724047809
You basically described team speak or any VoIP software ever created.

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>>724046275
People don't even emote/prance after hunts in MH Wilds, just "Hold to Skip" or gather.

Omega was fun in that it FORCED people to talk and group if they wanted to kill Savage

>>724047809
>Discord
>sows discord
Wow. Pottery
Also in-game quick chat too slow desu

>>724046730
AIKA OWES ME SEX

>>724046275
>What killed socialization in vidya?
a mixture of:
>people becoming very thin skinned and becoming offended by everything
>vidya developers pandering to the retards above and allowing them to ban you for saying something that offends them, which is everything
>a massive influx of thirdies that can't/don't/won't speak english
>newer generations being too shy and preferring to stay in their own bubbles (discord)

>>724047490
I'm really failing to see the reasoning in this.
Forcing in-game communication just makes it harder to bond with other people, if that game servers are gone or you or the other isn't interested in that game anymore for whatever reason you just lose communication with that person.

I've met people where we used to play one game, got bored of it but we still chat and play other games or move on to other games.

>>724047285
It's literally the feds retard

>>724047809
I think this take of yours is merely based on your own experiences, and that's fair. I've personally opened community servers where I've met a lot of people and got some nice friends, it is true that not everybody is talking all the time but people sometimes is just doing something else, hanging with other people or playing other games.

I've even met people from Discord irl and hangout, if this is not social then I don't know what it is?

You are not locked to one group of friends either, you literally can join any server and just talk to people. Yes some servers are too loud or dead, but you kinda have to dig a little, you guys are really not expecting for people to magically appear in your face and become your friend, do you?

>>724048178
Elaborate.

>>724046730
I dont want to permanently commit to anything.

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>>724047285
Alright so you remember all those niche Internet forums for specific games and topics that you couldn't post on unless you made an account and got moderator approval?
Now imagine that, except all the forums require a third party app, you can't actually READ any of the forums without joining a specific server, and even then you have to dig through garbage to find anything you're looking for because there's 10,000 channels and most of them are meme garbage.
And then icing on the cake is that you get banned permabanned by a Mod because "Your aura was bad" or whatever other bullshit they feel like banning people for that day.

tldr: it's cripplechan but with even more circle jerking

>>724048475
>you literally can join any server and just talk to people.
>just join servers filled exclusively with troons and minors
How is this going to help?

>>724048783
>exclusively
anon you are actually retarded if you think this is remotely true, yes there's trans people online on the servers and minors, I don't like them either, but they're a minority, just do not talk to them if you hate them so much.

But I'm not going to convince you here, if you don't like then just don't do it.

>>724046275
Leftist moderators.

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The solution.

>>724048757
I understand what you are saying and I fucking hate it too but what does this have to do with socializing with people.

I'm not saying Discord is the best shit ever, it isn't but it's pretty easy to tell someone hey let's vc together, send them a link to a server or do private call, have fun and that's it.

To me Discord is a place where you are supposed to hang out and have fun with people, but yeah I fucking hate it that people locks shit behind servers I don't give a fuck about but personally I think that's on people, that kind of stuff could easily be stored on a Drive folder or whatever.

>>724046275
>What killed socialization in vidya?
1: Most players aren't even human, you can't chat to bots
2: When they are human, most don't even speak English
3: When they ARE able to speak English they'll report your ass for the most minor of shit
I wonder why people don't socialize in games anymore when most players are by definition unable to communicate with one another...
>>724046730
>If you want to socialize in Game, why don't you use non-Game software that has an existing faggy clique that you will never fit in with
Hmm....

>>724048657
typical flakey online gamer complaining about lack of socialization

>>724046730
>install discord
>everything logged even voice chat and send to palantir
t-thanks

>>724049336
He asked why people hated Discord so I told him.
It pretty much killed the forum experience by turning every single possible forum or thread into a Sekrit Club Circle Jerk on Discord.

>>724049336
People used to have specific topics they wanted to discuss, forums filled this niche effectively, were available, searchable and also had proper communication structure.
Discord is designed for talking to a single person, or maybe like 5 people tops.
When discord servers have like 30 fucking people they become a nonsense mess that cannot actually be searched or navigated.

>turn on mic
>hear this
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tr-DnSy0s2k

>>724050291
That does make sense and I agree with you.
Personally I don't like Discord for actual discussion, most of the time is just vc stuff for me, sharing pictures or casual conversation (no specific topic).

But I can see the frustration.

>>724050692
I don't think anyone would really be upset at Discord if normies didn't flee every other social circle to hide in some super obscure discord server.
If there's any way to fuck up your brain, it's to join an echo-chamber, it's why redditors are so fucked in the head.
Forums had dipshit cliques as well but to a far lesser degree.

>>724046275
It's still there, you just have to socialize back. I played Base PSO2 a year ago and got involved with people who regularly talked with me and played the game and invited me to go do stuff.

>>724047809
>you hang out only with your homosexual super friends in your little cloister playing approved games
How did you think socialization in video games worked in the past?

>>724046275
You used to play these game to meet people and invite them to team speak/ventrilo.

Now you meet people in discord then invite them to a game

>>724046275
>80% of the lobby is focused and gaming
>20% of the lobby is being an attention seeking faggot
>the 20% thinks the 80% is the abnormality and a problem needing fixing
fuck you

>be me
>playing apex legends with randoms close to when it came out
>we start doing good with minimal comminication, 2 or 3 words a time
>win
>we all add each other as friends
>never speak again

It was great

>>724051890
>80% of the lobby is focused and gaming
If you're not using VC in a team-based game for callouts, you're not "focused and gaming", you're a shitter and you're bringing the team down. Using VC for team coordination and callouts is not just a courtesy, but a necessity in higher levels of play.

>>724046275
zoomers and alpha are socially maladjusted freaks

>>724046275
world of warcraft

>>724046275
What if you made a game where you are forced to socialize?

>>724046275
Having to tiptoe around everything I say no matter how tame because now people face instant permabans instead of mutes over the dumbest shit, and also most people nowdays wanting to talk about the latest flavor of the month youtube show or being a trans furry.

>>724047285
Because it's a dogshit software ran by a dogshit company and you are retarded if you think any part of it is any good
If this garbage ever goes down it's going to take 15 years of game help and tech support for games down with it

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>>724052765
That's just Journey (2012)

>>724047463
IRC doesn't have speak channel, no clue what is clowntriolo.

>>724047285
Idk about trannies, but Discord is literally a digital cancer app that is somehow becoming even more annoying and cancerous every time I open it (1-2 months)

>>724046275
Gay moderators banning people for talking shit.

>>724046275
>What killed socialization in vidya?
matchmaking and the loss of dedicated servers

>>724046275
>game is so trivial or straightforward that there's not really any need to talk to each other
>people don't talk to each other
WHOA! HOW CAN THIS BE?!!!

>>724046730
Teamspeak is better

>>724046275
Matchmaking and overly sensitive moderation
That's it

>>724047285
discord started as a skype/ingame voice replacement but now it has become a bloated ad filled mess that WILL consume actual frames if you itself or its overlay run. If your internet craps out you can also kiss any chats or in some cases the client itself goodbye.

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>>724046275
I did. Ask your questions.

>>724050220
its actually so much worse than that because many places now use it as their forum, especially video game modders. Imagine nexus mods but with the organization of a child on crack.

>>724053810
Why did they stop producing the peach flavour of Rockstar Energy? I liked that drink

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I tried to play wow classic when it launched and everyone on it only talked to be mean to me when I wasn't being 100% optimal.

>>724053914
They're faggots with no respect for peach flavoured drinks.

>>724046540
>I long for the days when I would just go to recruitment boards in forums and join random ventrilo/mumble/ts servers and meet new people
you can do that with discord

Lately its been the way every big vidya company makes it clear they WILL ban you and your whole account for the slightest offense, in a time when it has never been easier to offend people

>>724048175
>Forcing in-game communication just makes it harder to bond with other people,
it's literally the opposite and by thinking that, you are outing yourself as a zoomer who wasnt there when it was the norm
>everybody in the game is in the same voice channel, nobody has to second guess if they are talking somewhere else
>if you liked playing with someone, you partied up
>chat with your new duo in game, find a 3rd bro who also works well with the both of you
>snowballs until you get a full party
>send friend requests after someone has to split

>>724054017
Should've been 100% optimal.

>>724047285
Underages that fell for whatever meme psyop. I used IRC, vent, mumble, teamspeak, aol, skype, etc etc. I don't hate Discord, I hate the move to whatever becomes the next big messenger app.

>>724054017
>Play new game
>Use loadout/equipment I like and find
>People get angry
>"Dude, why are you trolling? Just google the correct build"
It's depressing to play any online game these days. One annoying thing was in RoR 2 when I didn't know what ukulele did as it just reads "and his music was electric", and I got flamed because I hadn't played RoR 1 where it tells what it does. Just dropped the whole game because I hate when I have to google what everything does. I guess it's popular game design these days because "everyone is going to google it anyway"

>>724047285
It's Chinese.
It also wants to tell people what I play, which is evil scanning of my pc processes.
I do not appreciate a chatroom/voicechat program doing that.

>>724046275
>Say words
>Money stolen
>This is somehow my fault

>>724055809
The final straw for me was when I had a positive K/D rate, but since I was using a "troll build" one of the teammates starting int feeding to make us lose.

Never played a competitive online game since. The masses are too mentally ill.

>matchmaking killed socialising
Kek some people had their go to dedicated server with the same few core players and a few randoms. Some servers had faggot mods and admins just like any other platform anons complain here about as well. Circlejerks and "secret clubs" existed there too in team speak or whatever the go to software around the time was.

>>724047285
>tell why /vg/ with superaids is bad.
1000% every time any recurring thread gets a discord made, it fucking slows greatly and then the faggots that cultivate in their faggot circlejerk cliques that gave them all "unique identites" come back raiding and killing the threads completely with discord drama that most people that didn't go to Discord cares about.
And guess what, it was attention whore trannies that made it all about them, the whole time.

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>>724056510
Oh my fucking God you gave me flashback to one of my last LoL games a year ago.
>Be high(yes I know)
>As a meme pick Heimerdinger support
>ADC Ez says "whatever as long as you play well"
>Jungler, Lee Sin, however fucking loses it
>"I'M NOT GONNA GANK BOT YOU FUCKING TROLL"
>'whatever man this isn't ranked play like you want friend'
>I die after enemy Vi does a good gank(managed to save ez tho)
>"WOW NICE THROW GGs 4X REPORT" t. Lee Sin
>We somehow manage to pull back after their Cait does a bad play
>We get their first tower
>Ez snipes top with his ult
>I start getting kills too
>Lee Sin is quiet
>We are on 2nd tower
>Lee Sin suddenly approaches when Cait and Blitz are full
>Ez pings Lee to fuck off(consider Lee is 2/2/4)
>Dives anyway
>Dies
>"YEAH THANK YOU FOR NOT HELPING GGS"
>ez: "I pinged you to go away just calm down bro"
>I keep my mouth shut because idgaf, I'm rolling a joint while going recalling
>Lee sells all items
>Feeds
>Feeds some more
>'man calm down we are winning'
>"BRO I'M JUST HAVING FUN THIS ISN'T RANKED XD"
>Feeds
>Goes afk after 2/11/5
>We lose after struggling for 10 more minutes
Most deranged people there are. And it's always Lee Sin mains.
Anyway I just started playing OSRS again instead. Better use of my time.

>>724057631
>DUDE WEED LMAO

>>724046275
>it's like playing with bots
If you ever think like this, YOU are the problem.

>>724046275
discord

>>724052716
>needing callouts
lol, you are skill of noob

>>724059523
you have to be high to enjoy any facet of lol

>>724056510
>Patch hits, new thing is overpowered, but you can't play it because it used to be "non-viable", so you will get someone who feeds half the time because it's a "troll build"
>Nothing changes for weeks until esports fags play the thing with a less fun build and then everyone plays it until it gets nerfed
>>724061181
Just because medicinal marijuana sometimes gets recommended for chronic pain, doesn't mean that chronic pain is enjoyable.

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>>724047285
Discord is visually appealing and works well, it's appearance is why it blew every other VOIP programs out of the water. All other '''gamer''' chat programs were just functional but looked like shit.

I mean I was on fucking Skype before Discord, though this was a fun time for contact threads on /soc/ because this was when there were actually hot women on there and not trannies everywhere.

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I feel like we label certain behaviors as "autistic" when it's nothing more than being more observant and methodical than others. It comes out in different ways, but it all is explained by simply noticing patterns and the way people operate and acting accordingly.
The frustrating thing is that we are constantly punished for reading people's motivations and intentions and acting accordingly. Like if you express a negative reaction to something then I would remember that and naturally refrain from doing that moving forward. How does it make sense to later get upset that I respect your attitudes and feelings or act all weirded out that I remembered something that you said two weeks ago? Or if you call something by an unconventional term I'll pick up on it and adopt it in our conversations, and then you turn around and act like I'm the moron because I called something by the term you established just so we could better understand each other and work on a common ground. Again, it just feels like being punished for respecting people's intentions and trying to play by their rules. I honestly just learned to stop acting on these observations because I can tell people get weirded out, like I'm weird for remembering things people tell me about themselves through subtle means of expression. Sometimes I meet someone and then see them again, and they'll act like they've never met me before even when they're the one who started talking to me first. Like fuck why do I even bother?

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>>724046275
>trash talk a little bit
>banned forever

>>724064932
justified

>>724046540
>cancel culture fags only allow you to operate in some tiny sliver of acceptable speech

I would rather not talk to people at all.

>>724046540
Just never say anything we don't disagree with and everything will be fine.
You will walk on eggshells the rest of your life trying not to offend anyone.
And when the day comes, the day that you drawing breath offends someone, you will have no one to blame but yourself

>>724046275
furfag pozzed platform called Discord become the standard for ANY communication regarding video games

>>724064932
Act like a nog, get treated like one

>>724046730
discord isn't a video game

>>724046275
join a guild with cool people it's super social
the only thing i try to avoid talking about with them is stuff like work because i don't want to make any NEETs in my guild feel bad

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>>724047285
All I need is username and text, discord UI is absolute cancer because they try to cram-in as much of unnecessary feature as possible, chat tool shouldn't need to take an entire space of your monitor
I'll never get retards gloating about Discord's fancy UI when minimized chat window looks like this

>>724067930
Based, discord is bloated spyware.

>get invited into a match
>try to talk with them
>"im in discord lol"
>add me to the call then
>"um they arent your type of crowd"
Now almost every time he calls us to a match he cant talk because hes with his super autists sucking dick in dickcord.

>>724046730
>9001 decibels; USER HAS JOINED THE CHANNEL

>>724046275
I don't want to risk getting banned.

>>724046275
>say word
>reported
>banned
>money stolen

>>724046540
I mean if you jump on a multiplayer game when it first comes out /v/ lobbies sound comfy, but when it gets taken over by regularfags it gets obnoxious

>>724046275
It's not a requirement anymore

>>724047270
>Extroverted people
>positive people
lol
lmao

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Zoomers are bad at finding friends.
Gamerdads all have their buddies and some of these friendships are older than some people ITT so they just hang on discord and have no need for socialising with random strangers.
Zoomgrimps however should do it more but are unable to because they are all very obsessed with being coold and detached because anything else could be considered cringe by their peers so they rather sit alone in silence haha

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>>724067930
I use both.

>>724068558
>Gamerdads all have their buddies and some of these friendships are older than some people ITT so they just hang on discord and have no need for socialising with random strangers.
Me except I'm not a Dad

>Rules of conduct pushes players into being toxic positivity wholesome chungus or an autistic callout announcer
>aka the most insufferable fucking cunts ever to breathe
>Wonder why nobody is socializing in your game

>>724046275
The days of fun MMO parties are sadly over... (。･´д`･。)

>>724047285
Lowest common denominator app attracting lowest common denominators. Trying to find someone cool on discord to socialize is impossible as trying to socialize with random strangers on facebook
There should've been competing multiple chat apps in the space that segregated different types of normal fags and basement dwellers, just like we have Reddit, YouTube, Twitter, and this place
It sucks how Discord managed to completely dominate the market despite population of internet and video games are at extreme high, and thousands of different types of people dabbling in the space
How are you supposed to get along with people when all of them are shoved into one hell of a place?

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Genuinely the only people who are somewhat open to the idea of socialization are ERP gooners, it is actually depressing.

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>What killed socialization in vidya?
EULA, you cannot socialize in vidya and MANY have opted out of trying
>at first you could say anything and do anything
>then you couldnt be sexist/racist
>then you couldnt do things to offend people
>then you couldnt say thing to offend people
We went from an age of saying anytime/doing anything and everything was fine to an age of dancing around everything/anything and if you say the wrong thing even if it isn't offensive but the other party finds it offensive your ding dong bannued

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>>724055809
>>724054017
The same but with new world aeternum while trying to learn the game (if the cuck devs don't stop fucking with the entire game every season..) just to chill and play some of the expeditions. holy hell is it SLUDGE. 99% of the time people rush through the entire thing for loot, never played this one before? too damn bad, prepare to hear autistic screeching for the next 20 min about how shit you are that you didn't play this game at launch or worse, having to baby sit the dumbshits who run and die then put up a vote to leave because everyone else sucks but them. MMO's kind of suck. the best moments I've had were in the open world where people just mess around but the content there is barebones

>>724068901
Zoomies throwing shit and cracking the whip when Fortnite tried to play an MLK speech or whatever niggerbabble they tried to put on was hilarious.

>>724051548
>you hang out only with your homosexual super friends in your little cloister playing approved games
>How did you think socialization in video games worked in the past?
This is the most zoomer thing in this thread. And that's saying a lot.

>>724068896
Virility is the only thing that can sustain anything.

>>724046275
Nothing? Socialization in games is as alive as ever. You are just suffering from selection bias.

>>724068981
>put tomato vending machine in front of theater
>people thrown them at MLK
>gets removed within the week
Lol LMAO EVEN

>>724046275
I bet all the other players were in a discord call together

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>>724068901
You avoid offending people in real life all the time. Just do the same thing here and you'll be fine.
It's called being polite.
Or are you just a complete asshole who everyone hates?

It's funny to see so many Anons bringing up Discord, because when I'm on a call is when I'm more likely to interact with players trying to socialize. Usually to fuck around with them a bit, but if they respond well enough we get them on board. Made like, 5 or so friends like this.

>>724068981
Should've charged V-Bucks per tomato

>>724046275
>>724047376
>was playing a mmorpg
>was helping my friend do some dailies real quick
>run past a dude and his small group, kill a single monster infront of them to finish the quest and move on with my life
>for the next 4 years every time they saw me in game or saw my name in general chat they would rant about how i kill steal and dont help people and blah blah blah like a complete schitzo
>ended up some how being the enemy of other people/guilds for no reason
>after the game shuts down and everyone chills out, start talking to my 'enemies' as we reminince about the game and find out that this person had created books worth of made up stories about me while trying to ruin my reputation over this single non-interaction we had

it is not worth talking to strangers online, especially in any kind of competitive online setting.

>>724046275
The (((investors)))
Same as it always is.

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>>724069528
This
There are too many powertripping schizos and now too many reporting systems that can easily be abused by said powetrippers

>>724047285
>join game server
>TO JOIN THIS SERVER YOU HAVE TO OBEY ALL THIS RULES
>no transphobia
>no drumpf memes
>a billion other rules no one cares about and has nothing to do with the game
because it's ran by the same kind of people who would go to free forum sites and create an entire forum for like a team or a game and then try to monopolize any discussion, aka, control freaks

>>724050492
That first dude is a massive fag, What even are these types of people. It's not even like dickheads these are straight up manchildren who quintuple down on being wrong and throw when called out

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>>724069528
I made some retarded e-whore cry because she sucked donkey balls raiding in FFXIV and she basically made it her mission to smear my reputation in our language's section of the community. When I approached a group to join them, they asked me "are you the guy that made x cry?" and I was like "hell yeah"

So anyways that's how I met the static I was with until I stopped playing that dogshit game kek

>>724069709
>>>/pol/asmongold

>>724069406
>anon kills me in pvp
>this offends me
>report anon saying hes killing me because im trans and im scared and calling the police
>anon gets banned
You have no idea how easy it is to get people banned in 2025 you sweet summer child

>>724068804
>If only I could hurl more slurs online I'd have friends!
Do zoomers actually believe this?

>>724046275
Corporate jannies and women.

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>>724070021

People killed socialization in vidya. Everybody is way more insufferable now, no matter what group they come from.

>>724046275
QoL features did.

Its mostly content design. Go and look at older MMOs compared to modern.
>Lots of downtime; characters have to sit for minutes at a time for mana, health and cooldowns
>Tanks take time to chain mobs and pull them across maps
>Group composition mattered a lot even in casual grind content
>The grind took all day to even get small increases
Whereas in modern MMOs
>Instanced party finder matchmaking system
>Content is designed for you to keep moving without any downtime necessary, often even on a timer
>Content is simple enough you dont need to talk strategy unless its like the highest difficulty hardcore raids only 5% of players engage in
>Grinding and partying is so quick that even if you didnt get along with someone it wont matter since you'll never see them again amongst the sea of people with cross world matchmaking
>Guilds no longer offer meaningful incentives to be in them because it was "unfair" to lone wolf players

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>>724046275
People went from shunned nerds who wanted to spend time doing adventures or pvp competition with people who weren't vapid normies, to being surrounded by militant trannies who will try to get you thrown out for breathing a word it didn't like

>>724069406
>You avoid offending people in real life all the time
You're weak and your family is weak. I tell Jew, gay, and black jokes in real life almost daily. At work.

>>724070021
>You have no idea how easy it is to get people banned in 2025 you sweet summer child
I've never ever been banned from an online game in 23 years of online gaming, even modern games.
I use voice chat and interact with people and don't shy away from trolling and banter.

It's a genuine skill issue if you get banned. I am however pretty good at provoking people into hurling slurs and then reporting them and getting them banned. But that's just a simple matter of self control.

>>724070306
Yeah I heard they really don't give a shit about that in thrid world countries. Good for you, brown anon :)!

>>724046730
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c8jmzd972leo
As far as I'm aware, there are no games that require Discord for in-game voice chat, as they integrate VoIP already. Discord is nothing more than a social engineering/raid staging ground that harvests and sells your data; it's completely useless as a service.

>>724069709
i played mmo that had a strong chinese guild in it. Legitimate chinese players. Just one guild of them, about 30 people total. Their version of the game had gotten shut down, so they came to our version of the game. Their main crew had pretty good gear, top 5% easily. And of course, since they were all the same group from china they had good team work, always were in coms, ect. They were a pretty powerful force for a time, but the language barrier prevented them from really utilizing their abilities to take over the server or lead the faction or whatever. But still, but themselves they represented a strong guild that was dangerous to fight. But they were chinese. So, an enemy guild decided one day to gas light everyone into believing that these players were 'le chinese gold sellers'. Keep in mind, everyone in this game was rmting/paying to win anyways. So it wasnt even an issue about unfair gameplay. They just created this narrative based on sterotypes that these guys were bots/cheaters/ect. They kept pushing this meme for years until 'everyone' believed it. Then, they weasled their way into the good graces of the publisher's support staff discord and convienced the gms that 'everyone knew these dudes were cheaters pls ban them lmao'

and the retarded gms actually banned them. These guys had been playing the game every day for years. They clearly werent bots on throw away accounts, and they werent doing anything weird to farm gold. they were just hardcore chinese players. It took them 3 months to convience the game staff to get them unbanned, but they finally were able to do so since they werent cheating.

then the game changed publishers, and these faggots did it again. They wormed their way into the community volunteer side of the new official discord, became friends with the gm/jannies, and got their enemies banned a second time for the same made up bullshit.

>>724049284
>paid stickers
Fuck jewcom
The censor word list is gigantic
I still call shitters dumb N.IGGERS anyway lmao

>>724070443
>it's completely useless as a service.
it's literally a "control freak app" designed for control freaks who like to monopolize all the discussion and bridge all of the fandom into one place

even old ass games like Neopets or Runescape would have fansites with control freaks constantly sperging out about their sites and trying to make themselves look like the leaders, Discord is just an iteration of that. Almost every Discord server you join has a hueg ass entry page with like 50 rules on it

no wonder it's ran by trannies

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>play older online game
>older online games had 1-2 buttons
>chat while pushing the 1-2 buttons
>play 2025 game
>game has 5 to 20 buttons
>everyone is speedrunning
>try to talk to get to know people
>get kicked because im slowing down the minmax run trying to get to know people
>join a run and ask a question about the third boss before we begin
>get kicked or everyone leaves because I don't know everything about the minmax run

>>724064932
Pardon my French, but toxic fags like this is why League has always been shit. Be funny with the banter.

>>724064932
not deserved

>>724064932
You get what you deserve for playing that slop

>>724071094
What's going to be really funny is when Discord is asked just how many other similar chains of conversations the platform has.

>>724068558
I had a friend group once to play games with. They all turned out to be drama loving fags with low self-esteem and so the group fractured over a Starwars quote. Never dealing with that shit again so I play games with the only other adult in the room and my gf. It was rough play games with a group of 8 to just me by myself for the first couple of years. Now I am socially retarded and bitter so its over for me when it comes to a group of people.

>>724071094
what's funny to me is that a lot of users have this "well, i don't really care" attitude to it, like "I know i'm being tracked but, eh"

it's just mindboggling to me, Discord recording all of your messages, even if you delete them has been a known thing for like more than 5 years by now

>>724046540
>the most asocial place on the internet
People mix up asocial and antisocial all the time
There are TONS of people on this site who will talk to you. They'll call you a faggot and tell you to kill yourself, but they'll talk to you.
This is ANTISOCIAL behavior, not asocial

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>>724064932
talk trash, get trashed

>>724047285
It's cringe to be social if you're autistic. They can't hide behind anonymity and run away when getting exposed as severely retarded.

>>724069918
I have it more for being an outlast reference than whatever e-loser you are referring to

>>724047285
VC in games is usually fine enough, it was bizarre to join a dead silent yet full TF2 server only to learn everyone there is on discord for some reason, sure I could join the discord and pop right into the conversation easy I just don’t see the reason to when there’s a pre-existing option being avoided for seemingly no purpose, Discord exists, it’s not necessarily a evil in its own right it’s just odd that its the first/preferred option.
As to why it’s the preferred reason I don’t know, most if not all modern games let you mute or opt of voice chat, a lot have friend invites incase you’re worried of never seeing that person again and enjoyed their company, it’s basically a forum hosting software but if I just want to talk it doesn’t have any appeal

>>724046275
i started playing project quarm for this reason, its been amazing so far, never played eq before and its been a blast

>>724047285
Two possible reasons
1. They are true recluses and don't have internet friends, they think that the moment they enter a server someone is going to message you and tell you to become a tranny
2. They are normalfags who started using the internet in 2016, they think that the moment they enter a server someone is going to message you and tell you to become a tranny

>>724071930
Personally my IRL friends group started a Discord server and since then 3 of them have transitioned.

>>724070291
this. anyone who has to ask why is probably one of the faggots that caused it.

>>724070941
written by chatgpt

>>724072057
skill issue

>>724070463
how do people become that intentionally destructive. it can't JUST be generational trauma and bad parenting

>>724072949
Looking for an ounce of power/authority, these kinds of autists are the worst ones to deal with.

>>724073318
Though fortunately they only really appear in MMO's, so as long as you're not a huge fan of that genre, you (usually) won't encounter them. Not to say you won't encounter some streamer faggot that's looking to generate free content for a few months for a random reason related to you, but you can only do so much before you end up needing to dodge multiplayer games entirely.

>>724072603
I believe you.

>>724046275
I have social anxiety

>>724046553
What game m8

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>>724046275
Any reason people come up with ultimately stems from
>pic

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>>724072603
>[Deleted, restored from external archive]

>>724046275
Meta gaming, aka numbers. Numbers killed socialization as numbers became the dominant form of metric used in game for matching.

>>724046730
Kill all voice program fags

>>724046540
I've joined a ton of lobbies on the helldiver general, but never heard anyone use a mic mostly text. used to host drg lobbies but people started throwing some shit meme that mods are bad.

>>724046275
retards

>>724046275
how i mine for fish?

>>724046275
matchmaking becoming the norm and especially hyperaggressive sbmm/eomm. instead of hopping on a server, guild or whatever and seeing who's on you team up with someone in advance (probable talking in party chat/dickscord) then click the retard funnel find game button to go against peoole you'll likely never see again after the lobby is force disbanded to let eomm rematch everyone for the next game.
even early console p2p matchmaking had SOME sovl as you could sit in the same lobby for hours with the same people talking shit, having rivalries, whatever. now? gotta break everyone apart because you got +12 mmr and glorpzilla87 you had some fun fighting got -17 mmr.

>>724046730
I'd gift AIKA my nut. it'd be the last one she'd ever need to take

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>>724046540

>>724046275
they get discord clingy. Probably because i was the only human interaction they felt for months but i'M not always mentally there to write back to others

>>724075640
most jav stars are also prostitutes but most also don't fuck foreigners. I'm pretty sure aika doesn't. pretty funny considering their forays into blacked shit.

>>724046275
The existence of chat moderators

>>724075823
her website says she does but from what I've read in mongering forums you can't just fuck her, she's too exclusive. you need a reference to get into the club in the first place, then you need to build up trust by taking lesser women out on dates before you can even buy midtier girls to fuck

It's not dead, you are just insufferable.

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I have literally not a single positive experience with a complete stranger since the Normalcattle Invasion of the Internet (2007), so I simply do not bother interacting with complete strangers anymore.

>>724046275
sharty nigger culture in a post-post-post-post ironic internet

>>724046540
>local library started a PC gaming group
>decided to visit
>everyone there was a tranny, a furry, a communist, or some other genre of fucked up freak
>turned 360 degrees and walked out
Thanks but no thanks, I would rather be alone than be stuck with these fags

>>724076307
Nah bruh ts frying me *wilting rose emoji* this diddy ahhh blud fr doesn’t want to play Nightreign with us *crying emoji* *ishowspeed gif*

I don't know if it's still like this, but the first week of playing Mario Wonder was awesome. Every level you were in was maxed out with as many players as could be in a single level (6, I think?) and everyone was spamming the emoticon things and helping each other out. It was really fun.

>>724076307
>world of trooncraft
maybe you should try not playing games full of tranny furry millenials full of angst because they dropped out of college and life to collect pixels?

Getting banned for saying "faggot".

>>724064932
Someone explain to me why it would be better to keep these guys unbanned.

>>724077196
they are paying customers

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>>724064932
>trash talk
>get slight punishment and warning you'll get perma-banned if you keep it up
>continue trash talking
>get temp ban and warned again
>continue trash talking
>get perma-banned

>>724046275
it began when american schools started encouraging snitching, probably after 2001, beginning of the culture of safety.

>>724046540
SPBP

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>>724070427
Not him, but I'm from a third world country, that is called having worse things to worry about. Caring about that stuff is a first world problem, like having a panic attack because the latte you like isn't available for the day

Unless, of course, you live in brazil. That country is trash, and still they worry about things like that because they want to cosplay as a first world country, all that in a place with worse infra structure than india, biggest taxes in the world, and a violence rate that makes countries at war jealous. The worst of two worlds, with none of the benefits of either. Unlike most 3rd world countries the birth rate there is negative, the place is so toxic even poor people are thinking twice before putting out babies. You shouldn't go there even for sex tourism, the place is hated by God himself

>>724046275
I don't want to interact with tryhard edgelords, memetards or screaming childrens.

>>724077196
so retards know when they do retarded stuff

Matchmaking systems don't belong in MMOs.

>>724046275
it's not but forcing people into comms/discords is part of the problem

VoIP wasn't a thing in the past and people still had fun

>>724047285
Just contact me when I'm in the game. Why do you need a 3rd party chatbox? I don't want to be bothered when I'm not playing.

>>724078929
>95 Anon grew up on the internet
>Finally start really playing online games at about 10-11
>Join our ventrilo
>Join our teamspeak
>Join our this or that
I hated VoIP so much. I just wanted to play video games but they never wanted to talk about video games they just started talking about weed or being a gigantic faggot all the time.

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>>724047285
Anyone asking why others dont use discord have never visited /vg/, or are cock hungry faggots

The Jeetification of the internet. The internet used to be Anglo-European with Japanese in their own space.

>>724079435
Imagine the internet in ten years.

>>724079841
its probably gonna be geolocked, with id required to enter and everything you ever say and do will be examined by the law

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>>724046730
This but unironically. As a schizoid i want the benefits of meeting people without the burden of having to continuously put the energy into “keeping up”.

>>724047285
They want my phone number so they can suck shit

>>724046540
>is a vile leftoid demoralizer
>"LOOK HOW BAD THINGS ARE!!!"
lul typical

>>724076241
she's mid as shit, what's so special about her

>>724081007
bro you're all over the place, what even is your point

>>724046275
The fear of getting banned if anything you say gets taken out of context and losing access to a game you paid good money for.

>>724071286
i would argue this website is equally asocial to antisocial

>>724046275
poors and browns getting access to the internet.

>>724046275
>Play MMO
>Group up with randos
>Put in my best effort to realistically roleplay as my character, a brutal orc knight.
>Randos: "Yo what's bussin', m'lady. I hope you are having a skibidi day, frfr. Have you heared about [random ECELEB]s new video?"
>Say in character that I do not understand the strange tounge he is speaking in.
>Randos: "Another roleplayer, frfr. Listen, skibidiboy, we are just here to grind the raid boss for the skibidi loot, frfr, and vibing about our favourite ecelebs and pornography"
>Get banned for "transphobia" for no reason
This is why. Zoomers and brainrotters have ruined online gaming.

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>>724046275
>>724082062
in Overwatch, if you get mass reported hard enough (it's not that hard) you could get banned even for typing GG

>>724046275
"Professional" gamers and streamers as well as the rise of E-Sports league

>Old days
>Wow, that was a fun game, we lost but at least I made some friends and had fun

>Now
>OMG, WE FUCKING LOST YOU SCRUBS. NOW MY SPONSORS WILL LEAVE ME YOU FUCKING BITCH

I'm too afraid of interacting with other people unless it's done anonymously. And that's that.

>>724081007
This, I don't have the time or energy to pretend to be normal anymore since what's normal changes so much. People need to pick a culture and stick with it for longer than a week so we can adapt.

>>724082703
In singleplayer games, losing isn't a bad thing if you still had fun, especially if you can learn from your mistakes and improve.
In multiplayer games, losing IS a bad thing because you it means that you were inferiour to the opponent and you got humiliated and humbled.
So unlike in singleplayer games, you will always want to absolutely win at all cost in multiplayer games.

>>724046275
I don't want to LARP with you. Shit's cringe.

>>724083692
>basic socialization
>LARP
Anon.........

>>724046540
>I don't wanna hear about how socialization is dead in vidya from this website
>the most asocial place on the internet
THE WHOLE WEBSITE IS ANONS TALKING TO EACHOTHER!?!?!?!?!!? AM I MENTAL OR WHAT!>!?!?!?! HELOLLO??????

>>724078429
not to worry because the us will be the same way by 2027

>>724046275
Honestly it's a lot of factors. The first one is just the fact that it is more dangerous to be online now than it ever was in the past, which is both caused by how easy it is to be not-anonymous as well as how easy it is for people attacking others to do just batshit insane things that I don't even want to touch. Since I am on HLTV for CS ratings, people can find my name, city and location just by searching my username and going to my HLTV rating page, so playing on an alt is a prereq now for me.
Secondly >>724046730 is pretty much proving based on the replies that a lot of people have some general animosity to what otherwise is the most popular platform for multiplayer gaming hands down, so that likely has something to do with it too
>what about [teamspeak, vent, ircs, skype, Steam communities]
No one uses these anymore and those platforms always had challenges when it came to gathering people for a certain thing, it's as simple as that. People react oddly when I tell them I still use TS for my CS matches with my teammates. I have never had a reasonable reaction to that or haven't for at least 7 years.
>availability and changes in the population
There are a lot more people that play games today and a lot of the old guard that were here transitioned to no-no identities or are just straight noobs
>general Internet interactions
it's a fucking doodoo dogshit dumping ground for the shittiest attitudes because it's normalized to be online and miserable at this point

>>724084961
there are bots and browns too not real people.

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>>724046275
Last time I goofed around in voice chat in a non-Valve game (G-rated goofing around, not screaming slurs or telling people to kill themselves) I got reported and suspended for a week. I'm not touching voice chat in that game again, and I don't trust other games not to be filled with salty niggers who report everyone that gets their slightest attention so they can take their rage from losing out on someone before jumping into the next forced 50/50 SBMM match. You HAVE to be a ghost to survive these people

>>724083692
...do you even know what larp mean?

>>724046275
>noooo listen to my retarded IRL stories
Normalfags should be forced to play and complete Hatred on the highest difficulty before being allowed to play other games.

>>724046540
you know what's fucked up?
I'm a 30yo boomer and i can't even feel comfortable being social on the internet around kids anymore, yet it's the kids that literally grew up in post-covid atomized communities having the hardest time socializing
To them, what we took for granted is such an alien concept they can't even wrap their heads around what they missed

>>724046275
normalfaggots
IRL shit spilling onto the internet
discuck
(((CoCs))) (i.e. we may ban you at our discretion, you heccin bigot!)
chat filters and automated bans (say thing, money stolen)
games with chat stamps
glowies and any filters

>>724046275
Normies.

>>724087151
30yo zoomer*

>>724046275
Matchmaking.
Turns out people don't feel like getting attached to other random people they're not going to see again

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>>724087807
If your MMO doesn't have some matchmaking it cannot attract more than a million player. There isn't a million MMO players in the world at any given time, it's a phantom demographic and any extra player isn't an MMO player who wants to play without matchmaking. This number is accurate according to official sociocontextual scans by the way.
A good MMO making revenue is a metaphysical impossibility and the industry came to learn this fact in 2062.

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>>724046275
Isn't this because Japanese people are dead inside and exhausted 24/7?

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>>724047285
I can't comment on others, but I think Discord, Skype, etc. were the direct cause of eventual downfall of socialization in games. Part of being immersed in an MMO is leaving your identity behind and assuming another. There's something that's particularly different about communicating with another party purely through text. It is why I have always liked message boards and this site. I have had numerous insightful, long conversations with others in party via text. I knew they were still real people, obviously, but the lack of voice made the conversations more impactful for some reason. After I started using Skype and later Discord with my buddies, group chat pretty much became a thing you only used to bitch at others about when they fucked up. Otherwise you treat them like bots 99% of the time.

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>>724057631
reminds me of a for honor match I had
>Breach gamemode, one team is pushing the battering ram to break 2 gates, then fight a boss, the other team defends
>we're defenders
>we keep losing more often than not, but in a way that takes the enemy attention away from the ram, so the ram is pretty well damaged
>so when it comes to the actual main objective, we're leading, quite a lot too
>despite that, some nigger on our team ragequits because we didn't have a high enough k/d ratio for his liking
>we love because the bots in this game are absolute ass
>it was pretty close though, would be an easy win if not for that fucker
People genuinely cannot comprehend objective-based gamemodes

>>724046275
Actually, actual bots would be better than that given modern AI.

>>724046730
>>724047285
I won't install Chinese software on my PC you retarded niggers.

>>724046275
Matchmaking and draconian moderation.
>say "nice shot"
>account suspended

>>724046275
Leftists.

>>724047285
>Go on gaming discord
>Say some other game is bad
>Get told I'm a piece of shit idiot fucker moron idiot shit piece
>Get warned by mods for abusive behavior
>Ask the dev of the game why he issued that warning
>Don't insult people :)
>Saying that a game is bad is an insult to people who like game :)
>It was justified of them to call you names because you their game bad :)
Wow, very sociable. I feel so happy I got to have that conversation.

>>724046275
Jews and women as usual and those who work for corpo niggers and enforce this cancer from censorship to report systems. They're cancer that does not belong in this industry.

>>724094823
>Go on gaming discord
>Say that random obscure old DS game is bad
>By some strange coincidence, some high ranking member of the Discord was actually a fan of the game
>EVERYONE isntantly starts dogpiling me for insulting the game.
>Massive war of me VS everyone breaks out
>Get banned
This is a true story that actually happened from my Discord days.

>>724095173
This shit could happen on traditional forums as well.

>>724064846
Sound cool actually. Very enjoyable to have friends that pay attention, you feel like actually give a shit, and you grow closer getting to know each other over time. It sucks interacting with people you feel are more or less braindead. Anything you say goes in one ear and out the other. When you're out of eye sight, you stop existing to them like a vidya npc.

>>724046275
1) corporations who are upset that their profits are dwindling and hope to keep the paying casual NPC audience protected from "toxic" players
2) women
3) Jews

if that's the case you have a failed product, no amount of filtering players out will keep your shit game alive, no amount of censorship will attract more players, no amount of AI will replace real players which you can interact with online on the same level

creating a safe bubble for spineless subhuman online means the death of your game
creating a report system that punishes one side but empowers others will be the guaranteed death of your game
creating a VoIP system that punishes those who want to socialize in the way the want to, will be the guaranteed death of your game

all these systems were in place back in the day yet none of those took away your (human) rights

>>724046275
matchmaking and centralized servers

>>724095173
What game was it, just curious.

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>>724046730
>>724047285
Is it that hard to understand wanting to socialize within the game environment?

>>724097525
Megamind: The Blue Defender

>>724047285
>besides le evil trannies
any discord server I go on that has custom username colors or flairs always has about 50% of users using tranny colors and flags. like every server is like this. you can't say this is an invalid complaint, because it is ALWAYS a problem.

> say wrong thing
> account banned
> money stolen

>>724046741
>All the extrovers keep moving to the next game every week leaving people that only want to play the game
this is the major reason. the last 5 years has been endless cooperative, flavor-of-the-week garbage.

every single fucking game completely loses any kind of audience it had once 30 days has passed, or sometimes even sooner if the game was genuine streamer-bait sludge.

>>724046730
>no, I won't install discord
and after the latest data "breach" i never fucking will, and i will call anyone who does a complete fucking retard, unless they use entirely false identity information, a 5 minute email, bogus address, etc.

>>724061892
Bon mot, anon

>>724069528
name 10 times this has ever happened

>>724046275
Skype, discord, etc. Basically third party chat killed ingame chat.

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>>724046275
removing of pick related

>I don't want to play with giga faggots? -> skip server
>I don't want to interact with niggers? -> skip server
>I want to be able to slur around and banter and be a called funny things and have fun -> join same server which allows it
>I want to play on my own -> join
>I want to paly with people I know and it's password protected -> join

>>724054205
I miss the time when you heard nothing but slurs online and no one cared.

>>724069406
>You avoid offending people in real life all the time
No you fucking don't, people offend each other constantly both directly and indirectly.

>>724070320
>I am however pretty good at provoking people into hurling slurs and then reporting them and getting them banned.
That literally proves the other anon's point you fucking retard

>>724070320
Exceptionally trans behavior. Somewhere in a parallel universe where justice is a real thing that world's version of you is swinging from a lamp post.

>>724057230
Anon, you just hate socializing. You can't build relationships with people without persistent identities and a lot of the time will be spent on mostly pointless interactions to maintain it, that's how it always worked.

>>724046275
nothing, you're either a homo with no situational awareness or a manchild that probably struggles to make eye contact with the cashier at the grocery store
even in "antisocial" games like wow I have no trouble interacting with people and making friends
literally last night I did a dungeon with three druids, we spent the whole time making cat jokes

>>724102352
this post reads like it was written by an autistic failed normalfag ngl, I think the biggest giveaway is the end. why would you specify that you were making "cat jokes"

>>724047285
i hate discord because its causing a LOT of technical information to be lost.
if a server is full of people making information, strategies, bugfixes and mods for a game, and suddenly the server owner gets mad at the game, they can just close the server, and anything not backed up outside the server is just gone.
and the fact that you HAVE to join a server, get verefied, and usually hang around for a set amount of time before reading a fucking bugfix for a product you've paid money for, and then you can either leave, and hope you ever need to access it again, OR stay in the community server, get pinged andlessly when some 'community' parasite feels like every one in a 3000 person server needs to hear about THEIR oppinions on current events, or what products their company is boycotting this week, all just so you can access the technical information needed.

its like a return to the forums of my youth, except instead of one weirdo blogposting, its fucking millions of them, and some of them follow you through the forums, because its a social network, not a fucking github, but people insist on using it as one.

fuck i miss the clear delineation of the real world and the internet world.

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>>724046275
I don't really want to people unless:
1) They are a source of marijuana I can exploit
2) They are women I want to have sex with

>>724102497
because the root of the interaction was that we were all playing the class that shapeshifts into a cat

>>724046275
sorry i'm shy

>>724102739
yeah this post more or less confirms my suspicion

>>724103140
brother you can believe whatever you want, I'm just stating the fact that it's your own fault if you can't have light-hearted social interactions with strangers in online games

most anons will blame a system or some shit but it's all nonsense
why don't people socialize in vidya anymore?
because the internet is not a new thing anymore, 30-something year olds have done that shit for 15 years at least and those younger have grown up with internet
it's not particularly interesting or exciting to talk to someone in a video game that's miles away from you, or even in another country, but it was at one point in time

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Last online 1825 days ago. Friends think i died. Discord button is the terror button.

>>724047463
As much as Discord has fucked things up, I have to disagree there. IRC was a clusterfuck, lacking features, and basically never changed. It is to Discord what Linux is to Windows; it wasn't designed for widespread use and refuses to add good QoL features out of stubbornness.

Ventrilo was literally just a voice chat and sucked, frankly.

I don't use Discord's voice features, but having a simple, user-friendly layout for servers & channels & user list + simple embeds of links + drag & drop upload is the secret to its' success. Matrix comes close with Element, but it's so fucking much more clunky and the UI is not as user-friendly by a mile. Just like windows, we're going to use Discord until Linux and Matrix get their heads out of their asses, or a third entry shows up that does it as well and as easily.

>>724064932
OK I get a refund then, correct? No? I pay for a product they can revoke at any time?

Get fucked

>>724070291
Sex

>>724047285
Discord took things that worked fine in the past, made a worst version of it all bundled together, and then effectively killed off or sidelined all the alternatives

>>724104308
I doubt anyone would even notice, and wouldn't message you.