Why didn't he just buy better drills? Is he retarded?
>>724047121> Year 2225> PaydayLet it go bro
>>724047187I can't.Nothing else scratches the itch.
>>724047121He was buying drills from cops, so yeah.
>>724047121I thought that most recent news update about PD2 was pretty funny. I mean I'm not even mad, I still play PD2 from time to time.
>>724047451One about modders working on updates now? Should've done this years ago.
>>724047121>Is portable>Is concealable>Low noiseIt's probably the best one money could buy given the required criteria and need for the situation.
>>724047725I just find it funny to see news about Payday 2. Considering Payday 3 exists.
>>724047847>existsYeah, it sure does exist.
>>724047725>putting amateurs to work on a commercial gameunless they're paid this will be a disaster
>>724047847It would have been way funnier if they tried to just straight up murder PD2 to try to funnel people into 3
>>724047803Have you actually played Payday 2? It's just Makita stapled to a frame.
AAAAAAHHHHHHHHI NEED A MEDIC BAG
>>724047121He's fucking dead, anon.
>>724047936They're paid, and they already proven themselves with Raid. At least that's what people say, I don't know shit about raid. >amateursI'm a better dev than those swedish fucks from Overkill, and I'm not even an it monke.
>>724047941they know they shouldn't do that after walking dead and the other ww1 or ww2 game that floppedthey know they only have PD2 and will do everything to preserve it, even release a subscription model for it lol
>>724048047>I'm a better dev than those swedish fucks from Overkillsure you are, where's your game?
>>724048152I'm not a good designer, so I don't bother. That's not the point. The point is, you have to actually try really hard to be worse than Overkill as a developer.
>>724048246>That's not the point.it sorta is when you make the claim of being a better developer than someone else
>>724048020He's still alive after switching bodies with the president. God why did they add this retarded Kataru plot to the game?
>>724047187There was an update yesterdayPayday 2 II: Scholar of the first drill releasing next year
>>724048341How long ago have you been diagnosed, anon? Got any neetbux flowing in?
I played Payday 2 with randoms today on Mayhem. I have no idea how people can enjoy going higher then that difficulty wise. I feel like you have to really get meta with your build or I just suck too hard I dunno.
>>724048573That's why you don't play with randoms on higher difficulties. And yes, you go full meta there. It's just not for regular players.
>>724048573Anything Overkill and above is a meme, the game is more enjoyable if you play Mayhem and BelowDSOD is "Fun" because 1 mistake and its joever
>>724048490>i'm a better dev than those guys>but umm actually im a bad designer so i never made any games>but im still a better dev than them>whats that? youre calling me out on my bs? youre autistic!uhh
>>724047121They just made it so upgrading drills takes only 3 seconds nowthank you starbreeze, I'll be sure to buy Baxter (cancelled) and buy the Year 2 Edition of Payday 3 (with only 3 DLCs)
>>724048573>Normal to Overkillbabyshit mode, you can only lose if you're missing braincells or you are missing hands>MayhemOverkill health with DW spawns and enemies. If you need to test a build I guess>Death WishNormal mode>Death Sentence One DownOh look at me, I'm a PROFESSIONAL!! I play at the highest difficulty because I'm GOOD at the GAME! Definetly NOT because I'm running meta builds with Leech/Kingpin/Stoic!!!!
>>724047187they're literally restarting active development, with more dlc down the line
>>724049216And just like before, I'll give them my money again. PLEASE rob me of more of my money starbreeze, together we can make Payday 4 maybe have an offline mode at launch!!!
>>724049119But my Sociopath deck doesn't work at all on Death Wish. Is it normal to have a bunch of useless shit on normal mode?
>>724049119>Oh look at me, I'm a PROFESSIONAL!! I play at the highest difficulty because I'm GOOD at the GAME! Definetly NOT because I'm running meta builds with Leech/Kingpin/Stoic!!!!this is so gay, why do you care how other people play games? especially coop pve games lmaodo you not have anything going on in your life? what an absolute loser mentality
>>724048380Is that even him anymore though.You presumably keep only your mind, yet your body, social circle, genetic makeup, all change.
>>724049404I absolutely could not get into Crime Boss. Felt way too off for me no matter how many times i tried.How is Raid WWII as a solo player?
>>724049405If you can't make sociopath work on DW, I think there is something wrong with you. It even got megabuffed, just run bloodthirst and play a hybrid melee build for the buffs.>>724049416Big difference is when DSOD players think they're hot shit because they play the HARDEST difficulty while playing Joy with anime outfits. DSOD is hard because of the no range limit on damage where you can get shot halfway across the map and still be hit for max damage. Suck my balls faggot
>>724049404Can you play Crimeboss solo? Seems right up my alley, and I even own it, but can't be bothered with multiplayer.
>>724049593I liked crime boss but I won't deny it has problems. For example, you will never win your first or your second run simply because you are missing the "Slow down sheriff" buffs. I get that's the point of rougelikes, running the run multiple times and getting new stuff but it can be annoying at the start, especially since you won't have many good team members or soldiers. It has a smarter AI than I would have ever guessed and holy shit! They're useful instealth to move bags and control civs! And they can even carry 2 bags, by default!!Crime Boss for me, is a 6/10, so bad it's so good game, where you can tell that the script was written in polish/lithuanian and then translated in google translate. Pure 80/90s cornyness.as for Raid WW2it's always been kinda meh but the MUG, I mean, the Sidetracked Devs are clearly passionate and even despite the game having 0 players, they still pump out major updates and new content. Gotta respect that, even if the content is middling, but there's only so much you can do by reusing character lines and models.
>>724048573I jumped from Mayhem to Death Wish recently (2500 hours btw) and the difference is mostly DW brings out everything I hate about the game more.Mayhem is mostly a breeze and that's what I want.>>724049794>sociopathMy perk deck of choice, nothing else works the same.
>>724049996Yeah, the Rougelike mode (the main mode) is singleplayer only. The multiplayer just has you play essentially the same missions but freely and with players. Not necessary unless you're going for the 100% like I did and even then, you can just farm the Gold Cup for levels.The zombie horde mode is really fun!
>>724050005Ill consider trying crimeboss out again sometime, Didn't know there was buffs that you unlock just in later runs. I just wanted to rob shit instead of plan out an entire rougelite mode.Kind of wish there was just a free mode to do whateverI might cop Raid WW2 next time its on sale, its usually like 5 bucks so it should fix the itch for the while
>>724050119Nice, going to try it today then. Loved PD2, but put too many hours into it (and still shit at it too) to play any more.
>>724049405Maybe you are overextending yourself. What skills do you have?
>>724050130It gets easier with time, hell if you want to experience everything in a single run, you kinda have to gimp yourself and play it slowly. For example, I reached a point where I could end a rougelike campaign in less than 3 days, so I could never experience the major heists unless I halted my conquest and allowed them to spawn.>>724050161Nice, they keep adding new shit too, even free stuff like raiding a russian nuclear base (don't ask, there are a LOT of stupid missions that make zero sense for a crime boss in miami to be doing)
>>724050039anarchist ICTV was my go to, but once you dodge.... you don't go back (yeah ik hacker is busted, sue me)
>>724049794I think you're just a level of pro I'm not. Again Mayhem is as far as I've taken it and even that sometimes feels like a giant pain in the ass. But then there's Overkill which sometimes feels like a good time to open a book or make a cup of tea. I haven't run sociopath with the zerker perks and perhaps that's where I'm going wrong. I just like getting health back for every melee kill. But after Mayhem I'm not doing enough damage to make the melee worth it.
>>724050256Well, it's not like PD wasn't full of things like that. Steal the jewelry from the store, then steal a nuke from a paramilitary base. I can see a reason to have a nuke in Miami.
>>724050326>I haven't run sociopath with the zerker perkswhat, not even pumping iron? Don't run bezerk or frenzy.
I thought it was Bully Hunters
>>724050380yeah but you also steal a russian jet, go to brasil/paraguay to do something against comunists and then hunt down fucking osama bin laden in pakistan (this is real). And who can forget the Robot Apocalypse where you fight against a megacorporation that wants to unleash robot cops and dominate the city??
>>724047941They already did it right before PD3 release by introducing crossplay with Epic and switching default matchmaking to Epic servers instead of Steam's. You can probably find some old reviews or forum threads complaining about the amount of desync and lag caused by Epic's dogshit servers
>>724050415I would have to look up what Pumping Iron did again I don't recall offhand but I was mostly talking about that perk that drops your health to 25% for a damage boost or something. Figured that's how you keep the melee damage up high enough to matter in higher difficulties. Or like I said figured once you hit DW there's just a ton of useless perks and perk decks. But then again at this day and age of the games life I assume the community has found ways to make everything work for better or worse if you're committed enough.
>>724050506>Robot ApocalypseWell, we did have Lab Rats and that one Halloween event with headless cloackers.
>>724047941>wasn't there during U237I was. It was awful. Legit killed PD2 for a while.
>>724050660>I was mostly talking about that perk that drops your health to 25% for a damage boost or somethingyeah don't run that, defeats the purpose of sociopath by gimping health regen.
>>724050660https://pd2builder.netlify.app/?s=1Q0-63g10-5r000w70R0-4g7&p=8&a=0&d=5here, shit build I made in 2 minutes, pretty much play dodge. You can also run CTV or inbetween but I usually don't so idk.
>>724051068as for melee, there's only one viable option and it's the Katana (or any similar low concealment melee, but the katana just has the highest damage and concealment)
>>724051068So low concealment for the damage boost then? I can do that. I should have mentioned all my builds waste points so I can saw or lockpick or blow open anything. I play with randoms only so always like to be prepared and having that be a prerequisite kind of ruins point distribution. Still thanks.
>>724049996Its better solo than with randoms, bots are pretty smart and will hang back when you're being stealthy but beeline for loot the second it goes loudAnd in both modes you can purchase new AI characters with different loadouts and specializations
>>724051263crits will help you get kills with guns so you rack up bloodthrist so then you can use it to oneshot dozers with a charged attack (real) and keeps you viable at range. Unleash melee when upclose, the panic and additional stagger should make it easy to stay in the fight. Use FAKs when snipers zero in on you or you take too much damage.
For me, it's sicario
>>724051484Is that the smoke grenade deck? I never see anyone using that. Ever.
>>724051521Me, I use itit's fun and A tier
>>724051329Sounds great.
>>724051545You know what? I never play dodge. What is the best deck to use with dodge these days?
>>724051521That's still a bigger number than players using the Hitman perk.
>>724051641Hacker. Press 3 and you will stun half the fucking map. Gain health and dogdge every kill. About as busted as you can imagine. Play IZHMA and HE Judge and you're set. Literal easy mode.Rouge works fine, but you don't gain many tangible bonuses from it.I really like sicario, the smoke grants very good dodge when I need objectives and it's even more dodge if there are enemies inside the smoke too. The armour recharges every sucessful dodge so if you're loco enough, you can run intermediate armours for added bonuses, since it's not reliant on having sneaky bastard.
>>724051641Hacker, it's like a top 3 perk deck.
>>724051665it had a use when akimbos were skill restricted and there weren't many of them but now akimbos can be equipped freely and you might as well run better decks and perks for em.
How can it be a drill if it ain't drillin?
>>724048573I used to play with randos on one down when it was its own difficulty.As long as you have jack of all trades build it was doable
>>724047121Did they really update the game?>Added explosion priority to medics so medics will no longer revive other enemies when dying from an explosionHoly shit how did it take them 10 fucking years to fix this?
Sidetrack Games please make U.S. Marshals exclusive to the Midland Ranch and Crude Awakening and bring back hostage rescue teams.
>>724057117I still don't know why they removed HRT. Was such a neat feature.
>>724054719holy fuck I thought that was a genuine (insane) design decision this whole time
Having seven different difficulties always seemed to me like a retarded move to meThe best they could've done is simplified it back to five difficultiesNormal, Hard, Overkill, Mayhem and Death Wish, kind of how Deep Rock Galactic has five difficulties (or hazards), Haz1-2 being for Noobs, Haz 3-4 being the baseline for most players and Haz 5 and 5+ being for the more experienced.I've been playing with the following mod as of late and it really shows that you can have a more difficult and engaging difficulty without having to resort to bullshit like no damage falloff.modworkshop.net/mod/39113
>made ~15k kills with katana aloneSociopath was fun
Was there ever a Payday /v/an?
>>724062225That was a thing back in the days. Normal for when you're launching a game for the first time ever.Hard for when you're getting to know the game. Overkill was a baseline. And Death Wish was for people looking for a challenge.
>>724057117>U.S. MarshalsWho the fuck decided making that shield fuck invincible when his shield breaks was a good idea? You can't even tag him after the shield breaks and he briefly gets some free hits on you during his invincibiility phase.
So what heist ideas or crossovers do you want?I would have liked a Rainbow Six Siege themed heist where the gang sneaks into or assaults that sports stadium that Rainbow uses as the Elephant wants to discredit Team Rainbow's current direction in order for his buddies to gain more influence in Congress. I'm pretty sure lore and gameplay-wise, the Payday gang shitstomps most of the R6 Siege counterterrorists considering they've already went up against Murkywater and ZEAL, which are comparable to the special forces units of Rainbow.
For me, it's Diamond Heist
>>724066969the diamond?
>>724065624Max Payne, Breaking Bad was also one that always made sense in my head
>>724065624>Rainbow Six SiegeGay, and R6S already has Zero's Dallas skin, so it's double gayWe want the Baby Driver scrapped crossover.
did they ever nerf swansong that + the judge was the funnest part of payday 2 for me
>>724067593SwanSong got its duration reduced YEARS ago. The supressor damage skills also got removed
>>724067919gay i guess i won't reinstall
PDTH >> everything else
Why are they dragging their feet so much on adding new playable characters to PD3 (or bringing back PD2 ones), it seems like a pretty easy thing to do and people will pay up for it as seen by Jacket
>>724068169It still works exactly the same it's just not 9 seconds anymore, I think it's 6 and you are mega slow
>>724047121Payday 3 is better than 2 and I'm tired of people pretending that it isn't
>>724049119>>724049794>Talking about difficulty in modern payday post:>Skill reworkS>difficulty reworkSSS>weapon reballanceSS>P2W DLCS>Inspire>Swan Song>Perks>DODGEalso>FKN AKIMBO SMGSjust shut upDont claim to have skill, if you never played the "original payday 2"This game was only hard twice,before nades/he ammo were addedandbefore the Crossbow meta, when ONE DOWN meant ONE FKN DOWNhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7vtg7kaCwYE
>>724065624I was expecting another John Wick heist for PD3 that takes place between Chapter 3 and 4, where the gang either steals from some High Table warehouse, or assassinates the High Table Elder from Chapter 3.
>>724070515should have linked this instead, had a mate with that exact reaction when he reinstalled after a decadehttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LAFfJZhKB8M&t=98s
So other than meta perks and skills, the basic strategy of Death Sentence on loud is to find some cover, hide and shoot at enemies during the Assault Phase, then do the objective stuff when the assault ends right?
>>724049404I'm still mad that Raid is shit.WW2 Payday should have been fucking great.
>>724071123this is the basic strategy of every map on loud and on every difficulty
>>724070278>Payday 3 is better than 2 and I'm tired of people pretending that it isn'tThe secret to good bait is that it has to be somewhat debatable.
>>724070278Based>>724071240Faggot cope
>>724070515I played the 1.0 version on myu pirated Xbox 360, then on the Xbox One. I've been playing this game a long time, piss off.
>>724047121Why did you make a thread about some uglyass eceleb manslut? Are you a faggot?
>>724047187payday 3 was so bad that they went back to 2
>>724070278elaborate
>>724071123use jokerz, tank with stoic/leech/kingpin and yeah pretty much that
AARRRRGH I NEED A MEDIC BAG
>>724071497anyone who claims DW to be the true difficulty and DS just tryhard shit is a copetardwhen i play twice a year, i monstly play DW MH, because I cant be asked to always play the same 2 pub carry builds and my friends quit around hypetrain.and posting the free difficulty mask makes one seem as old as this "gamer"https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qAarO-Itzds
>>724071123Basically, on some maps is impossible though, due to either constant spawns or lack of cover so you need proper chaining of revives and good coordination with your team
>>724067186No, the real Diamond Heisthttps://youtu.be/GrZYgYqddb4
>>724072423tbf there is THE Diamond, The Diamond heist and The Diamond store
>>7240715653 has better gunplay, MUCH better stealth, skill aren't as broken op like in 2. I will say that the music isn't as good but I there's no character/op weapon bloat (yet). And there's less maps (obviously comparing two live service games 10 years apart).
>>724072875They really need to put in more work if they want to gather the same player numbers of 2, there is a reason why people haven't switched, and if it were that much better the difference wouldn't be this big
>>724067553>Zero's Dallas skinWhy in the fuck couldn't they have a Cloaker skin?
>>724074721The low IQ retards who flood Payday 2 hate 3 because it isn't a god run and mow down cops simulator like 2. 3 struck a good balance between 1 and 2's difficulty and unfortunately it looks like 3 is slowly changing systems to how 2's currently is.
>>724072282ok nigger
>>724047950>makita>blue
>>724072875>3 has better gunplayok>MUCH better stealthok but seeded RNG is stupid and makes stealth a 2 step process where you spend your first run looking for the right codes and the second run to do it all in casing mode> skill aren't as broken op like in 2yeah because they suck. It's a PvE game, you can afford to have some more broken shit. The Edge, Rush and Grit system is plain stupid.>I will say that the music isn't as goodI seriously don't get how Gustavo fucked it up this bad. I thought his PD2 tracks were pretty good and then he shits out the Big Chungus Gold n Sharke and Earrape Touch The Sky OSTs>there's no character/op weapon bloat (yet)The deagle exists>And there's less maps (obviously comparing two live service games 10 years apart)ok now compare the ammount of content PD2 got in 2 years after it came out.bare in mind, offline mode was boasted as the major point of operation medic bag. They delivered the half baked Beta Offline mode that won't launch if the game is offline and then they said "we lack the technology and skills to make offline mode" and called it a day.
>>724078395>operation medic bagWhat a meme that was
>>724078383Go build a wall or something, nerd.
>>724078395Payday 2 did not get as much content in 2 years as 3 did. Keep in mind that 2 reused the small bank map for multiple heists and afaik the armored transport heist maps were just reused failed escape maps. Sure seeded RNG is kinda cheesy but stealth is already generally more time consuming than loud, it doesn't invalidate guards and whatever other mechanics.
>>724047950What even is the orange shit? does a magnet need to be that big?
>>724079041Battery pack maybe
>>724078942Payday 2 launched in 2013by 2015 it had recieved about 50 updateswith each new DLC introducing new heists, new characters, guns and various masks and patterns. And free shit for everyone.for comparison, PD3 has recieved 46 BLOG updates a LOT less actual updates. Year 2 was like, what, 3 DLCs? One of which is Jacket.> it doesn't invalidate guards and whatever other mechanicsIt's invalidated becausedoesn't help that most heists fucking suck from a fundamental level in the first place anyways. And I say this as someone who for some reason actually enjoys PD2's shitty stealth.
>>724079502btw that's not counting special events and shit like christmas heistsYou know what PD3 got for it's christmas? A fucking ad for Project Baxter (which is now CANCELLED LOL)
>>724070278it was supposed to be better by reducing horde retardation, but the caved in to retards and now its same shit as 2, but more barren
>>724079810I agree that PD2 is congaline murder sim and PD3 was trying to reign that in but at the same time, PD3 is incredibly barren when compared to PD2 that even if they wanted to follow this approach, the levels just sucked and it was piss easy even on Overkill
>>724079502Sure I'll give you that, I forgot how much DLC was added in the first two years it's been too fucking long. I don't know how you can defend 2's stealth at all though. 3 having public/private/restricted sections is so much better, being able to purposefully distract guards in private areas or nab key cards off their belt, anyone being able to easily hack into the camera system to spot guards for others, ect. there's much more variety, but the big bonus is not having that fuck awful desync 2 has that makes stealth nearly impossible for anyone that isn't the host.
>>724079986Absolutely everyone I've seen use the term "piss easy" to describe the highest difficulty was 100% carried by their team every time. You didn't beat overkill your teammates did.
>>724080187>I don't know how you can defend 2's stealth at all though.I don't. It's ass. I can admit that. But I've gotten too good with it and I do it for the thrills>being able to purposefully distract guards in private areasI've never once used the audio lures, especially since the distraction hack is better >nab key cards off their beltthat's a cute additionI do think PD3's stealth is good and intresting. I just don't think many maps make use of the good mechanics. Especially since a good chunk of them are "stand in a circle, but *stealthly*" wooow
>>724080419You are grasping at straws here my man. The game being too easy is something that was talked about a lot. Special units blow ass and the ammo economy is such a net positive that running ammo bags is still considered a form of griefing.
