HOLY SHIT GET HYPEhttps://youtu.be/rB24rtT528U
>>724049994wtf is wrong with bethesda
>BUY IT AGAIN!!!and Bethesdrones will.
dude cant wait for legendary edition in a couple years
>>724049994What even is fallout, man
>>724049994rip mods
>>724049994>lets break all the mods again edition!
>>724050174>power armor>miniguns>power armor>dogmeat>super mutants>enclave>nuka cola>power amour>theme parks with power armor
>>724049994Wow they didn't even bother making the graphics nicer
>>724050174A shit series that never mattered
>>724050310I bet they didn't even fix a single bug, either.
>>724049994it's... not even an edition? just the same game but renamed "anniversary edition"fucking shit for brains company
>>724049994Are they going to fix the shit story?
>>724050394they did the same with skyrim
>paid mods are a bust, no ones buying them>how do we maximize our returns on this failed investment?>what if we just make a new edition of the game where the game is the same and requires no new investment, but include the paid mods, and people buy it, essentially paying for all the paid mods they otherwise never would have paid for for, under the premise that they psychologically desire a more "complete version" of the game just like many will re-buy a "goty" edition of games that includes all the dlc to have a more complete package actually kind of smart since i bet people will fall for it
>>724050428Will the fuckers force me to use their god awful in-game store to download the anniversary content again, instead of making me download them through GoG, Steam, Epic whatever the fuck.
>>724049994I'm not buying Fallout 4 again, Todd
>>724049994is fallout london releasing a new patch in november?
in retrospect fallout 4 was the last game made by competent people at bethesda. i made fun of it for streamlining and lame writing, but i remember my two playthroughs positively regardless because it was still a solid adventure with great environments, great texture work and interesting world building in my opinion. everything afterwards is made by you-know-who which is why starfield took ages to make and why it was a failure, and why they're re-releasing fallout 4 with no changes (they lack the skills to improve it), the last game at the company that was actually a good product and felt like a proper AAA game release.
>>724049994>worst fallout gameNo, thanks.
>>724049994>full fuck price fuck off
these guys will do anything but fix their buggy ass game
>>724049994have they still not added a brightness slider?
>>724049994>everytone complainingyou will still buy it like you bought skyrim and how you bought starfield
>>724051009i didn't buy starfield thoughI didn't fall for Todd's lies this time.
>>724051009i actually never bought starfield because i could immediately see it was shit based on the substance painter premade smart material textured weapons made by indians
>>724050895I bet loading screens will still be tied to FPS lmao
>>724050895does anyone know how to fix the black screen bug that causes long loading times?preferably without a mod
>>724050914I wonder why not
>>724051009I am still running Skyrim 1.5.97, and probably will until the end of time.
>>724051009sorry lad but i skipped starfield.played a friend's copy this summer and quit after 4 hours. game was rife with annoyances and what i assume to be bugs (get a scanner thing, scan a criminal, make him surrender.... cannot turn him in or do anything at all, he sits with his hands behind his head until i leave the area
>>724049994>Lets make a Switch 2 port of this old game>Might as well sell it again on the other platforms for extra profitThis is what happened
>>724049994Man... What is fallout even about anymore
>>724051009lol it's just the same shit bundled togetherskyrim se sold only because of 64 bit update, nobody bothered with anniversaryvery few retards will buy this
>>724050174basically the whole point of fallout was to collect and find cool equipment in a cool post apocalyptic world and beat its ass
>>724049994I dont understand the difference between this and the game of the year edition besides it comes with free paid mods.Is this like the skyrim anniversary edition where the game runs better and people can make more powerful mods and shit?
>>724050024All their talent left a long time ago
Hype, hype, HYPE!
>>724049994didnt they already do a next gen version which actually made the game run worse and ruin mods?fucking joke of a company
>>724051802>skyrim anniversary edition where the game runs better and people can make more powerful mods and shit?It didn't do any of that though. That was just Special Edition with added creation slop.
>>724050635you're not wrong the modern day consumer is braindead retarded and will soi face buy anything
>>724050768Say that again, motherfucker
>>724051175i remember somehow accidentaly managing to do it my last playthrough but forgot how lmao
>>724052209I'm not buying F-ack!
>>724052212that's not very helpful anon but i guess i should look it up myself instead of asking
>>724049994LONG AFLOATON SHIPLESS OCEANSI DID AAAAAALL MY BEEEEEESTTO SMILE
>>724049994Last good game Bethesda will ever make, why not milk it?
>>724052398doubt it no idea who told them to do 30 fps lmao
>splitting the game into multiple versions 10 years after release for the second season of a dogshit TV show that itself resulted in the first modpocalypse for this gameI FUCKING HATE TODD SO FUCKING MUCH AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
anniversary edition proofs that elderscrolls 6 is going to be made of gamebryo engine
>>724052465skyrim 2 will suck major dog balls worse than starfield
its skyrim all over again
>>724052564no its worse. At least they upgrade skyrim every new version.This is just the same game again.
>>724052314now that i think about it the only way i think i fixed it was by alt tabbing while loading but that bugged the ui or the whole game resolution so i gave up and went for a run every downtown loading screen
>>724050209This. Breaking the mods to celebrate Fallout London was a dick move and made me drop it after 200+ hours of basebuilding autism
Fallout became mainstream when it released on consoles, so no wonder they keep re-releasing it and breaking mods.
>>724049994Does it come with a few free mods or will I have to wait a decade for those?
>>724052532>worse than starfieldi have really low expectations for TESVI but I find this hard to believeTES at least has its setting to back it up, shartfield's greatest sin was being a gigantic, boring, empty nothing of a gameit felt like i'd occasionally dip into a half-baked sci-fi setting and then go back to playing a 0.0.5 alpha unity game
it should be illegal to sell the exact same game twice and claim its new in any way.
>>724052532its gonna be DAGGERFALL 2 and it will bury bethesda besides retire todd
>>724052707not only does it not come with mods, 40% of the mods you give a shit about will bother updating to AE and 60% will not, forcing you to either live without most of your mods or downgrade your game via depot codes and download old versions of some mods
>>724052861i swear you people are retarded
>>724049994Anyone who wants to pay money for any bethesda product after 76, Stardfield and Dark Ages is a fucking retard and deserves to get permanently banned from the internet forever
>>724052938ilustrate us then how to port it without errors and corruptions
>>724053017just use the gog version
>>724050635I don't necessarily disagree, but if the upgrade is priced at $10-$20, that's at least a more reasonable price point for the CC catalog.
>>724052707yes mostly dog race skins and more retarded new vegas memberries 10 years later in fucking boston
>>724050428That one at least added mod support for the console versions which was nice. It's extremely rare for any console game to ever allowing modding
>>724051009>buy>starfieldLiterally no one did lmao
Friendly reminder that you WILL buy Fallout 4 again.
>>724053034cool, you solved half the problem, now you still have to manually go to files on every mod page that updated to AE and select the specific version of the mod you actually want (hopefully they're not spergs who delete old versions like arthmoor)F4AE exists for the same reason SKAE does: money. It doesn't improve a single thing about the game.
Did they fix the loading bug, where the wold takes 10 minutes to load?
>>724049994>Starfield flopped>Skyrim has been milked dry and then some>Now Fallout 4
>>724053169oh no wow thats so hard, i have to manually select the gog version, oh god
>>724053185you get a ssdyou install high fps physics fix, set the fps to uncapped on load screens.Enjoy super fast loading
>>724053185Yeah it's called buying a SSD
>>724049994Bethesda just can't catch a break
>>724053254>hey, i'm gonna inconvenience you for money>why, this is annoying>dude, it's not a big deal, i just need some money>i don't want you to>it's not even that hard to work around, just deal with it lolin case you didn't get it: this doesn't benefit anybody except bethesda, who not only don't deserve more money, but in fact deserve to be dissolved by MS
>>724049994>Switch 2 in 2026why they gotta make me wait
>>724053421https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q-h1CCDOL6c
>>724053471switch2 its ps4 with ramen code like ps3
>>724049994Ok but are the bugs fixed? What about the awful story, is that fixed?
So all the mods are going to stop working again?
>>724049994Can't wait for elder scrolls 6 to come out so all good will for this dogshit company can finally end
>>724049994Imagine getting "hype" for betheslop. FALLOUT Betheslop. Wake me when Bakersfield brings dignity back to this franchise.
>>724053142God, this brings back memories. Horrifying.
Guys, what if TES VI is... good? At this point, I don't think I want it to be. I've already given up on this terrible company and I just want them to implode already.
>>724049994>Fallout 4's pre-bombs premise>Be human prime from before the bombs fell>Can't join the Enclave even though someone pre-fallout absolutely would
>>724052619>no its worse. At least they upgrade skyrim every new version.Uhhh...The AE was literally an SE re-release with like 100 paid mods thrown in.And you had/have to buy it again because it's not a free update.This is literally, LITERALLY the exact same thing, except FO4 never got an SE so it feels even worse than Skyrim's.It's just FO4 GOTY with paid mods. That's it.
>>724053743>>724052619Point being it's basically the same shit.Even if it feels worse than Skyrim's, it's actually the same shit.The only reason they touched up the visuals for Skyrim is because it was a 2011 game and the LE looked pretty fucking bad.
>>724049994how the fuck are there people who don't have this game by now?
>10 year anniversaryChrist
>>724053695There is no precedent for a soulless megacorp finding a soul along the way. AFTER filling its staff with DEI women hire bloat. AFTER outsourcing critical games to India. "Soul" is something only to be lost.
Can we talk about how they're just putting New Vegas in a physical big box and selling it, no remaster, no bug fixes, nothing.
>>724051175Yeah just don't play this shit game. Fixed.
>>724053717they re mostly exterminated besides chicago
>>724053928Bethesda is eternally ass hurt about New Vegas, they will never remaster it.
>>724049994has bethesda actually almost made more remakes and releases then their actual main series?
>>724053818normalfags still barely into video gamesmake a TV show for them to sit on the couch comatose and stare at in-between looking down at their phones and they'll get interested enough to waste their money on a copy of a game they'll play for 3 hours and get bored ofsame shit happened with cyberpunk and now that it's been proven to work consistently, expect more of this abysmal dogshit
>>724053637It's called toddslop newfag
>>724049994Another update that breaks the fucking game. Bravo
>>724053818I didn't buy it. And I never will. I'll never buy a post-Fallout 3 Bethesda Fallout game. Emil can't write his way out of a paper bag. And I would never reward him for F4's nonsense.
Starfield was the nail in the coffin for TES6i pretty confidently think they had an entirely different game in mind with a big fuck off universe that they just couldnt get working with consoles limitations, and then jerry rigged a dogshit fallout in space in like 3 years after trying for like 6 to get this fuckin spess simulator up and runningtes 6 will return to rimsky formula but nobody actually wants that, like unless its 100 voice actors and 500 missions with different endings and shit
>>724053981>almostskyrim alone has re-released 10 times before they've managed to put out TES 6
>>724053947They're a random encounter in F4
>>724054046I'll call it what I want because I'm not a hivemindfag.
>>724054167that's creation club shit
>watch trailer>it's still the same gameFallout 4 was ass I would only buy this if they totally overhauled the gameplay, I gave up with it before even playing any of the DLC it was so bad.
>>724049994i just tried replaying fallout 4 and it's a lot less enjoyable than i remembered.
>>724053818>sold their old Playstation ages ago>they buy NS2 for MKW or Pokemon>oooh mah favorite Fallout game!They just buy the game again
>>724053254>>724053034>>724052938>I will pretend the argument is about something else because I can't defend Bethesda's actions otherwiseWhy are shills like this
>>724053808i recall the biggest issue with LE was the memory limit
>>724054349how am i defending bethesda because you are a moron?Im literally advocating not getting the ae version you dumbass by getting the gog version.
>>724054416>saar please buy bethesda's game on GOG saarFuck off
>>724049994>broke mods again for nothingn-nice th-thanks bgs amazing stuffreally glad they do this every few months just to make sure modding, the only thing that makes their game worth playing, becomes exponentially more and more annoying over time
>>724054461moron
>>724053818Didn't buy it. It looked way too generic, unlike FO3 or FNV.If you wanna send a Steam key to wakiwo5774@dwakm.com within the next 30 or 45 minutes I'll take it, but I don't feel compelled to spend money on it myself.I'm glad it gave me picrel though.
>>724053471>playing Fallout 4 on Switch 2Good luck. FO4 runs worse and has significantly more bugs than something like Skyrim. Console commands bailed me out a bunch of times on PC, and even then, I once lost 5+ hours of gameplay when Preston Garvey inexplicably broke.
Fallout 4 needs a built-in "alternate start" at the very least. A new story would be a better welcome. Mods have probably already done this, so just get those. FO4's story is terrible. The only reason I enjoyed it back at launch was because, honest and truly, I was impressed with the graphics. I had just bought my GTX960 at the time and the first games I played with it were Fallout 4 and Witcher 3 and they looked pretty good. They looked quite a bit better than early 2010's games that I was playing on my ever aging Radeon4850
And of course the nigger cattle consumer will praise this shit and eat it up, God i fucking hate this industry so much it's unreal
>>724049994I've never played a Fallout game, am I missing out on a lot?
>>724050394And with some shitty mods preloaded, and that will be 70 dollars plus tips, thank you.
>coworker at office out of nowhere asks if I like Fallout>I tell her that I used to, before Bethesda got the IP>she looks at me like I just spoke ancient Sumerian and goes, "What are you talking about? I'm talking about Fallout">"The post-apocalyptic game series?" I reiterate>"Uhhh, no? The show obviously..?." she answers
>>724054684Only problem I had on PC was a crash two times, and that went away when I updated my drivers. I think it's not a tall order that they ensure the game is stable on a console they're developing it for, on a game that's a decade strong.
>>724050289What the fuck does it matter that he's "not the shooter" when he's equally complicit in committing a war crime?
>>724050024They unironically can't make games anymore. The creative infrastructure is gone. All they can do after Todds boring vanity project is reheat some old-ass games for the more tasteless consumers.
>>724055000God I hate women so much, why did they got rights in the first place
[Buy a fucking ad Microsoft]
>>724054936It really depends on your tastes. Fallout 1 is an isometric point n click adventure with turn-based combat and obtuse 90s rpg mechanics, but if you can get over it I would start there and see if you like the world and storytelling. They usually go for pennies on steam whenever a sale is on.
Has modding ever recovered from that update they pushed last year or so? Haven't updated my install since then.
>>724054936No
>>724054936you are missing out on the FACT that fallout 1, tactics and new vegas are the BEST in the series
>>724055527>tactics and new vegas>no f2nigger
>>724055643F2 is redditcore.
>>724055643fallout 2 is cringe also too easy just get a bozar and gg you beat the game
>>724049994>hey look we added a gazillion paid mods to fallout 4 isnt that awesomethe ones that are currently in the game are already broken as fuck and kill balance and progression. You can easily get a power armor stronger than X-01 at the beginning of the game. It just makes the game into even more of a mess, most normal mods are better integrated than this.
>>724055690>>724055725But it's okay when NV does it
>>724055690>F2 is redditcore.and NV isnt?
>>724053818It was abject dogshit a decade ago so people with good taste never bothered.
>>724055690>>724055725whatever schizo
>>724049994Let me guess, they still won't do anything about the VR version of the game? No fixes, no trying to incorporate it into the new edition?I'm not even much into VR, I just still find it genuinely insulting they'd drop VR versions of Skyrim and F4, that literally straight up do not work without modding, are extremely shit and barebones even after you get them to run, don't even have the DLCs AND costed full fucking price rather than being an option for the main game with how half assed they were.Beteshda's incompetence and kikery is genuinely insulting and I'm happy Starfield was so shit even the normalfaggot cattle realized this to some degree.
holy fucking nigger Im so hyped! Im slurping down my nuka cola tm and Im counting my bottle caps. This is gonna be so fire and lit cuh.
>>724050289>let me share a little connection to y'all between f1 and f4! the fallout 4 and fallout 1 games happen in the same planet ;)>how about that? surprised?
just replace todd howard with wallsogb at this point
>>724050635No one would buy for the mods alone, they update the game, break mods, the authors update the mods and now you need the latest version anyway
>>724049994EA has been making updates for the Sims 4 for over TEN FUCKING years, often doing nothing of value past making their new shit dlc available, forcing modders to update their mods.Sims 4 community says and does nothing.Bethesda makes an update to their game that does nothing of value past making their new shit dlc available, forcing modders to update their mods.Bethesda community loses their minds.What causes this phenomena. Both communities are fulled to the brim of women and men pretending to be women, so that's not the reason.
>>724051009I only bought Skyrim once. Got Special Edition for free because I already had all three DLCs, and Anniversary was forced on me.
Buy Fallout 4 again GOY!!
>>724049994I can hear all the mods breaking
>>724051009>and how you bought starfieldsorry but no, the hype just wasn't therethe setting looked bland as fuck, and it turned out it was
>>724053142You mean, I will pirate Fallout 4 again. Because I still haven’t paid for it lol.
>>724049994please tell me this is a fully separate release and not an update, i dont want to break all my mods. it looks identical to my current modded setup, only it will have far fewer quests, characters, items, locations and features by virtue of it being vanilla.
>>724050635this but also people will pay $70 for a game that was shit 10 years ago but believe was from a better era
>>724054256>>724054837I hate the storyline and factions of Fallout 4. Fallout 76 is honestly a way more tolerable experience in my opinion
>>724055110Crashes aren't the problem. When I played FO4 earlier this year, it seemed like damn near every mechanic in the game was glitched in one way or another. The game has a severe lack of polish.
>>724056770Still makes me laugh that starfield still doesn't have a body replacer mod with sliders, not even CBBE with its lazy as fuck broken knees and texture compatibility issues.
>nukes your modlist>charges it full price
>>724052861Will mods need to be updated? Unlike with Skyrim SE, it sounds like this doesn't make any under-the-hood changes.
>>724050114is this what, third, fourth time?
>>724049994
>>724051009i forgot starfield existed
>>724057149>Unlike with Skyrim SE, it sounds like this doesn't make any under-the-hood changes.What part of skyrim's AE announcement sound like it made any under-the-hood changes
At least skyrim is safe now, time to start a modlist
>>724049994>Rerelease with DLC included and some creation club slop tagged onThat’s it? 10 years later and that’s it?
>>724054837ya man, get the alternate start mod + the silent protagonist mod + the "roleplayer's expanded dialogue" mod and you can roleplay at a basic enough level that it feels like other bethesda games (there are certain dialogue options you can choose that imply you're either the courier from NV or the dude from 3 if you so wish). i also use the pipboy remover + the pip pad mod for better immersion, it frees your arm of the pipboy and replaces it with a tablet-style device that looks really great and fits the universe.
>>724049994>breaks more modsgreat
>change settings to only update when I launch the game>install f4se and only run fallout 4 from thatfuck you todd
>>724053928I'd rather they do that than release a remaster and fracture the NV mod scene. A mere rerelease can simply be ignored. It's still a shitty cash grab, but it won't cause me any problems.
>>724049994>Fallout 4, except with a metric shitload of broken overpowered creation-club itemsOh great, thanks Bethesda, I sure love seeing non-canon shit in my Fallout game without being treated like a joke, like Doomguy armor and Prey spacesuits.
>>724057407AE was just SE with paid mods attached, but SE actually did make programming changes.
>>724057418i'm playing the simonrim suite right now and enjoying it
>>724057664pic rel is the method i used to preserve my 100+ hour playthrough last year when they did the next-gen update, it worked like a charm
>>724049994So what I want to know is, on PC, will this replace the current version? As in, will this be like SE to LE for Skyrim where it's an entirely new executable and update to the Starfield CK, or is it just going to be an update to the current 2015CK version of Fallout 4 that bundles together all the CC content?
>>724055165God I fucking hope TES6 bombs and sinks the entire fucking company, they should've all died decades ago.
>>724058584when i tried this it worked for a while but then it just kept asking me to update anyway like wtf
>>724056932Surely your joking anon. Surely you haven't pirated the game I worked so hard on to make. Now come on anon, open the door and show me your legally bought copy of Fallout 4.
>>724057934fuck mods, vanilla the only way to be
>>724058670i think you should get a different hobby and chill out a bit
>>724058698Jesus christ Todd, fuck off already.
>>724058698Hau~! Todd-kun is sho kyute~...
>>724055175Holy goddamn mother of all inceldom
>>724055000I've always found it illogical that people say "obviously" in situations where it's not obvious at all, since there's a clear miscommunication, lol. It seems to just be a defense mechanism.
>>724055000>Be me>People talking about godzilla (this is before the monsterverse ones)>"You mean the 1998 American film or the Japanese ones?">"What are you talking about anon, if they were in japanese how would we be able to watch them!?"I wanted to set somebody on fire that day.
Is NV even playable for anyone without the tick fixBut maybe asking Bethesda for anything is too much given how fucked up the 'next-gen' for Fallout 4 wasMaybe that's fixed now idk
>>724059129I know normies are stupid, my normie friend actually scares me, but wow, that's a seriously low level of reasoning.
>>724049994>sells the same game for full price, breaks the mods wow just like Skyrim!
1997 - Fallout 1998 - Fallout 2 2007 - Fallout 32010 - Fallout New Vegas2015 - Fallout 4 2030~ Fallout 5 Series has now been dormant longer than it was between 2 and 3 unless you count 76, but you shouldn't because it's not a mainline entry. Say it with me, WE LOVE MODERN GAMING.
>>724049994Holy shit, i'm so back, Fallout 4 bros!!!!
>>724049994Another patch to break all the mods?
>>724059494I'll wait as long as it takes for Emil to not be the writer anymore.
>>724051175There isn't a definitive fix. The black screen when first loading your save can be fixed by saving the game in a cell where there isn't much stuff or things going on and looking down so a lot of the loaded assets start culled
>>724050289>he's not the shooter he's just the stone cold sociopath who laughs and waves at the camera broadcasting live executions of guerillas? PoWs? to our ghoulish audiences back home!Really cool how we're almost there and you can get an FPV drone video of some identical slav getting obliterated with the discerining factor being a flag patch on his uniform on xitter rather than cable tv.
>>724049994So it is SAME GAME with just bunch of low quality fan-fiction mods included?
>>724050289I hate this retarded hack like you wouldn't believeThere are competent dudes working on nu-fallout but for some reason they have to entertain this retard's ideas and writing constantly
>>724051175I know exactly what you're talking about and I tried almost everything and had to break down and install a mod. It's honestly the only way to fix it. It's insane that sich a large company can make such a mistake.
>>724059963>>724060240I wish I could understand why they continue letting him write the games. But perhaps even more curious why they don't let Obsidian make another one now that they're all under microsoft. I simply don't get it, why do they want 10 years between entries when they could have a game out in a few years if they let somebody else do it?
>>724049994Unlike some of the other games, 4 is not one I feel like replaying.
>>724059264i had a funny interaction with my zoomer normie friend that perfectly sums up everything wrong with modern day consumerism and accessible technologyim sharing it because it explains the attitudes that leads to horrible pointless rereleases like skyrim special edition and fallout 4 anniversary edition and why they always do so well despite the controversies>my poor friend hasnt been playing games for a while due to work and wants to return by playing gamecube and n64 games>i show him my near console accurate emulation setup that ive painstakingly tweaked to be as cycle accurate as reasonably possible outside of original hardware with the exception of better performance and a clean image>he starts fidgeting and going "yeah i dont know, seems too hard">? what about it is hard, ill just send you my emulators via a usb or something, theyre portable so you can just drag and drop them onto your comput->"i dont know man, even if theres like 1% of a difference between console and emulation, id prefer to play on console">um friendo, first of all youre broke as fuck and gamecube games are quite expensive, secondly you said the problem was that it seemed too hard even though ill set it up for you and all you need to do is copy the files over>"im just really worried ill break something to be honest. ill just save up for a couple of years and play as intended">me, started to get annoyed and confused by his contradictory words: ok fair enough if you prefer the original hardware but you just said two minutes ago that you wanted to return to gaming rn?>"well yeah but i can just start with nintendo switch i guess">oh great, well switch emulation is really mature by now and->"nah bruh the switch is still on the market, i cant emulate the games, its illegal" (he actually said this)>speechless, i eventually left the topic off with "well ns games are also expensive so you will still have to save up anyway but if you change your mind ill help with the setup"
>>724050635Fallout 4 is the best selling single game Bethesda ever made, the skyrim hype meant everyone who played any version of skyrim, played fallout 4, if you combine the sales of every version of skyrim, it passes it, but now we're getting more versions of fallout 4 to compete
>>724060347They worked with that talentless hack for too long and they don't have the heart to tell him to fuck off, even if the games continue to suffer.
>>724060347NV is too highly regarded, they don't want to keep getting shown up over their own franchise.
>>724052861It comes with a lot of mods, including the shitty Enclave campaign mod that ruins the loot pool, and a bunch of others with no ability to disable them
>>724049994Hype for what? The game is still shit.I still regret buying this full price.Fuckkk you Todd you quadruple nigger.
>>724060454What a painful read. This unfortunately matches my experience teaching computer classes during college.You'd think that most of the attendees would be seniors, right? Wrong. It's all young guys who have never used a PC in their life.And they're all clueless and struggle with stuff that I was doing when I was four or five.Don't want to sound too doomer, but I genuinely believe that the newer generations have a significantly lower IQ on average.There seems to be no investigative spark, no neural pathways being formed, no independent study. They're like a bunch of goldfish. Depressing.
>>724054936Fallout is inherently furry and transcoded, there's an immense concentration of them and redditors in the Fallout fanbase.The humor in Fallout is very reddit and lol-so-randumb-xD as well, and it is rife with all sorts of degeneracy.Steer well clear.
>>724049994Does this fix the armour design and missions/story from being shit?
>>724060903>Bethesda>fixing anythinglollmao even
>>724060454>Working at a school>Teachers keep fucking using youtube videos as learning material and shit>"Hey you know you can just install an adblocker and all the ads go away">"YOU CAN DO 'WHAT' NOW!?"It never even was considered a possibility for them.
>>724060674even the music in NV mogs the music in 3 and 4.
>>724055000should've asked what she likes about the show and recommended her to play new vegas but instead you mumbled about your pseudo boomer autist negative opinions
If you want to see how a post-apoc FPS should be, go play Ashes 2063 instead. It's fucking free and it feels like I should have paid for it.
>>724060454I had something similar happen with my friend too. He's not super sharp, he's a bit dim and slow but a really friendly guy. He seems incapable of not being a turbo consoomer though. He's very brand obsessed and refuses to buy items from third party retailers even at a big discounts, he only buys from stores. He is also very poor which makes me wonder if this is a working class overcompensation exacerbated by low intelligence.
>>724060980Imagine when someday the education videos they use are removed. What happens to the curriculum?Shit's bizarre.>>724060454I have a similar kind of friend, he stopped pirating because according to him it's more convenient to buy games now that he has a job. His job pays like shit and he can buy like 2 games a year max. I told him that there's no licenses or DRM or any shit like that in piracy and nowadays it's easier and safer than ever before, he answered: "Man I don't know, it's just such a hassle"Whatever man, suit yourself and your endless backlog of shovelware because that's all you can afford.
>>724060454>these are the people buying skyrim 2 electrical boogaloo on sony smart fridges
>>724061236I played a bit of this and fell off, but I really liked it. Environmental design is top tier, super comfy. I do think the sprites for the weapons is a little too overdone as far as sprites go, they need to be simpler and more readable.
>>724050289How do we know that again? >>724049994Sceptical. Most dlc are trash.
>>724061515They need a little more fidelity, often when devs go for the pixel graphics look they are way too pixelated to be readable or to be similar to the way they looked in old games.Even if the amount of pixels were the same, CRT monitors back in the day filtered the pixels into a more even, more readable look.
>>724049994What's a re-release?
>>724061515I think gritty, detailed guns and sprites fits the setting. It's like the scrap covered cars in in Mad Max, they're supposed to be hodgepodges of parts and shit.
>>724058670todd made out like a bandit after the microsoft deal. he is abandoning ship after tes6
>>724061679It’s more just because of the switch 2
>>724053695i really don't get why people expect TES VI to be anything but shit, they'll just outsource it to pajeets again>>724053818i had fun with it but i would only recommend to pirate itthe most fun you can have is to clear dungeons to get the shiny item at the end, hoping whatever legendary upgrade it has is worth a damneven as a basic looter shooter it is still barebones
>>724062090>they'll just outsource it to pajeets againTodd wouldn't do that, not after seeing what happened to Starfield... He wants only the best for us. Todd is our friend! He must see it!
>>724053305And SSD doesn’t help loading you need a mod to make it so load screens aren’t 1fps
>>724060831>And they're all clueless and struggle with stuff that I was doing when I was four or five.navigating the file system?>>724060347obsidian is a shadow of what it was. the crew that made FNV is mostly gone and the writing staff has been infested with danger hairs after they ousted avellone. Its better they dont do another one. After wasteland 3 I would trust inexile more to give a unique fallout experience
>>724049994Trailer makes it sound like its full of millennial writing.
>>724049994If we lived in a functioning society some based gamer would've shot Todd Howard in the head by now
>>724056090thank god their half assery is so much they have not even properly blocked from implementing the DLC on your own. All it takes is copy paste a few files with some fan patches for specially buggy shit like automatron
Posts of TESVI summoned me. I come from the future.TES6 willRemove Magicka and arrows(ammunition). No resource management in combat except your health bar. Reduce schools of magic to just 3. Restoration, Destruction, and Illusion. Alteration combined with restoration, conjuration combined with destruction.Lockpicking and Pickpocket combined to thievery, just like how mercantile and speechcraft got unified into speechcraft.Blacksmith, enchantment and alchemy combined to Crafting.Onehanded two handed and blocking combined to just one combat skill.Light armor, heavy armor combined to a single passive defense skill.
>>724050289It's actually incredible how Emil cannot write for shit even if his life depended on it, which it does. And the fucking idiot is so full of himself that he cannot, for the love of god, jump ship and leave writing for good so he doesnt destroy other projects. Its just pure, unadulterated incompetence.> SAME. GUY.He says, trying to hype up how he puts his greasy little fingers in the lore better writers before him have written, without even realising that what he just told is the most retarded thing posible. He later said that it was just "a concept idea" that he was toying with before development and that "whatever he says is not supposed to be taken as canon", even tho he is the guy that writes canon. Fucking moron
>>724060454I remember watching the iPhone keynote and laughing alongside everyone else. It's harrowing in retrospect."Today, we're going to change the world."One of the only times a businessman has said that and it's proven true, without hyperbole.
>>724049994You can tell Todd and company are regretting so much making Starfield instead of having another Fallout ready to release along with the show.
>>724062868>Implying 'skills' will remain ingame>All prior skills are now just perk-trees like FO4>Quests are gated by how many 'settlements' you make>Game (set in capital of hammerfell) has only one city
>>724060454Decades of corpocratic brainwashing have worked wonders.
>>724054256I am currently replaying it and it’s like 5 times better than I remember
>>724060136>>724060240>>724055137unironically this is the only good idea Emil ever had. And he immediately cucked out as soon as he got pushback from reddit brains like (you) giving Nate (the Rake) some personality and interesting past instead of the bland mediocrity he is. Fallout has already been degenerated into a childrens amusement park intended for small children, women and faggots. So any babies first edge is welcome to bring back some life into it
I want to try Fallout 76, any tips? Qrd on Atomic Shop and Battle Pass? Is it like Fortnite with items only available in the battle pass for a limited time and V-Bucks only available for real money, or like Helldivers 2 where Battle Passes are permanent and you can earn currency just by playing? Will I lose a lot if I start playing now?
>>724060980that's the worst one for memy boomer dad uses spotify and youtube for his music>"dad there is a browser that will remove all of that shit so you never have to see an ad again and not have to pay for spotify">"meh leave it like that"without mentioning they'll still complain that they have to sit through ads>>724055000to be fair, you handled this like shitobviously she was talking about the show and if you were not sure you could've said "which Fallout?", it's a woman and a normie, what else would've been but the showyou literally could not hold in your spaghetti there
>>724063481He handled it just fine you fucking nigger.>Do you like Jaws?>'Meh Jaws was a good movie but it's sequels are shit'>"REEE I MEANT THE VIDEO GAME ANON-KUN!"The dumb bitch he was talking to should've fucking said if he enjoyed WATCHING Fallout, or if he likes 'the fallout show'.
>FO4 but now the quest tab is so choke full of CC quest shit the map markers don't show up anymoret-thanks
>>724063680The 'anniversary' versions 'fix' that issue by adding random couriers who drip-feed you CC content as you play the game.
>>724049994The game is shit without a small mountain of mods that essentially turn it into a completely new game.
>>724063630>girl>normie>expecting her to like anything other than the goyslop Netflix showeven then, don't give out your opinions like a /pol/tard at the first fucking question
>>724063312It's more like Fortnite but after a year and a half or so many seasons the items come back in the shop as a 'catch up' bundle. I started playing during a rip daring bundle when the show was aired and now last month the bundles came out from that season I didn't 100% so I can choose to spend like $3 to get the last like 3 or 4 items I didn't unlock on the pages.Every account gets somewhere like 25 bucks or more of free premium currency by just playing the game as lifelong milestones which will take anywhere from a few days or months of farming them.Every battlepass season comes with I think 6 to 12 dollars of currency free but battlepass holders get to unlock everything inlcuding the extra currency.At the last page are repeatable rewards so what vets do is they finish the battlepass in the first week or day of it being released, then use the daily and weekly quests to unlock the most repeatable rewards which include the premium currency and some quality of life items.Right now for the anniversary there's 1 week free of fallout first which some vets choose to buy for only 1 month per season to mass farm materials and ammo to store in the premium storage which you can always take out of but only submit stuff into during having fallout first sub.Some people stay subbed just to keep their access to either infinite storage or access to a private server so they can play and farm on a non-laggy server and not compete for the daily/weekly targets like specific mobs or items that spawn.When I first started playing everyone was talking in team and open world but now everyone's quiet.
>>724064082>even then, don't give out your opinions like a /pol/tard at the first fucking questionTough shit, you're an adult, act like one.It's your problem if you freak the fuck out over actual human beings talking how they're supposed to.
>>724064164>Have to subscribe and pay Bethesda just for the right to do what your average 2000's game could handle for free (private servers)LOLLMAO!
>>724054416Won't save the mods on Nexus from partly updating
>>724058870That's Islamophobic sweaty
>>724049994Calling it now>Weapon debris not fixed>Interior navmeshes not fixed>Another useful duping exploit: Fixed
>>724064465why would they fix anythingnormies think repacking everything into one thing you can buy one time (for full price) is doing a favor to them
>>724064465>Load times still linked to framerate>Meaning playing with Vsync still results in 10m load times
>>724064259>Junk collector extraction shooter Arc Raiders and the latest BF6/CoD don't even offer private serversYeah I know, the jews won. I miss downloading skin repacks and new maps for free for CS too.You can play without private servers or infinite storage like you're supposed to but I'm a hoarder and play once a month per season.
>>724064164>Every battlepass season comes with I think 6 to 12 dollars of currency free>most repeatable rewards which include the premium currencyDoesn't that mean you can get infinite premium currency if you play enough? I really don't mind farming a lot if it means I can buy the stuff I want>fallout firstI'm not buying this crap.$13 a month is fucking absurd. Fortnite subscription is cheaper and gives you way more.
>>724054613you know, out of everything I've seen people complain about FO4, the one that I'm surprised to see the least is how fucking batshit bonkers was the quest to get to the Institute for the first timeyou are literally given schematics by someone who is not an engineer (the super mutant guy was a biologist or something, makes a cure for the Super Mutants which you cannot use on anyone but him)AND YOU JUST FUCKING BUILD A FUCKING TELEPORTER like it's putting together ikea shit, that made me so mad, that's legit the worst piece of writing by any AAA game I've ever seen in my whole life
>>724061897Like a remaster
>>724049994but my mods.....
>>724064835>Doesn't that mean you can get infinite premium currency if you play enough? I really don't mind farming a lot if it means I can buy the stuff I wantAnon if you make even minimum wage you're better off just working a few more hours to skip all the ingame grind bullshit.And that's what they're counting on, as only complete no-lifers would play 100 hours of FO76 for a light wood laminate flooring texture.
>>724065117You don't get it, it's a matter of principle. I'm not going to pay Bethesda a penny.
>>724051009I haven't played any of those games though. I hate RPGs
>>724063246>interesting pastwar criminal is as boring as war hero or war survivor>babies first edgeI'd sooner have that in-game via Nuka Raiders, which is a dogshit DLC, than some non game fan fic wrote by the type of faggot that would defend midichlorians.
>>724063246yeah, its really cool when you're playing an RPG and your character has a backstory already written for you.
>>724063246I love it when FALLOUT CHARACTER has a super strict pre-existing name, backstory, close relatives and tragic goal.Because when I boot up Fallout1, the overseer calls me "John Fallout" and details everything for me.
>>724066208>>724066432Just like fallout 1 and 2
>>724066557Of course, you know, when Fallout 2 boots up and the tribal chief calls you "Jeff Tribesman", and you have pre-existing backstory that you can't change, your character even has a voice that you can't headcanon, it's all provided for you. And you even have a baby that you can't refuse!
>>724066557Wrong>the whatshisname premade hetero is the canon protagonist according to the bibble by Chris AbalogneWrong
Laughing my fucking ass off
I remember when I first played FO1-2 and selected 1 INT, and my character spoke eloquently like a normal person instead of a drooling caveman.THAT is quality gameplay right there.
>>724066643>>724066687Explain the difference between having a child and having a whole tribe/refugeBoth things move the plot forward and both are an important part of your character's backstory
>>724064554They fixed the dogmeat duplication glitch and a few others that required a special, non accidental set of circumstances to happen early in the games release, which was pretty essential for building on consoles before mods.So i guess just to fuck with people.
>>724066750Explain what? FO1-2 is JUST like FO4.I mean FO1-2 doesn't even have fucking skill points or traits. And all the enemies level-scale so that you can never feel too powerful in a given area. Fucking toxic caves full of legendary mythic glowing deathclaws when the last time I visited had grey geckos.
>>724050174Emil stamping on our faces, forever.
They couldn't even botter to improve graphics?
Low int playthrough in the original Fallout is such a joke>Created a character with low intelligence>Completely ignore all dialogue and play the game using your meta knowledge>Just use drugs to get normal dialogue when you need itWow, what a fucking deep RPG! Now try to make it through Fallout 1 with 1 agility lmaoGod, I fucking hate the Fallout community. Fallout New Vegas fanatics pretend that their game is the best game in the world and everything else is shit, Fallout 1/2 morons praise games they haven't even played, Fallout 3 and 76 trannies mentally ill. Unironically only the Fallout 4 community is reasonable enough to accept the flaws of their game and just not give a shit about other games (except for shitting on Fallout 76 but that's given)
>>724066557>Just like fallout 1 and 2Just because FO1 and 2 gives you a context of why your character is placed right in the middle of the adventure doesn't mean is the same as writting > well, your character is a war criminal who laughed at an inocent disarmed man getting executed in front of cameras for war propaganda. Yeah, you probably wanted to roleplay as a goody two shoes character that has never harmed a fly or one that maybe hated the politics of the old world, but you're stuck with the war criminal
>>724067412 (You)oh shit, the lord of rpgs is here to tells us about his fucking opinion
>>724049994who the fuck cares
>>724049994Its telling that they spent barely any time showing the creation club content this includes unlike in Skyrim's anniversary edition, FO4's paid mods are complete shit with one or two exceptions, if anything this is a downgrade.
>>724067412You're right, Fallout 1 and 2 are shit-tier RPG's.Fallout 4? Now that's a MANS RPG.
>>724054936No, Borderlands 1 and 2 are better, Fallout is literally just for Boomers and Gen x manchilds
>>724052787>its gonna be DAGGERFALL 2i wish, i'd actually enjoy it if that were the case
>>724060454Did everyone start clapping afterwards?
>>724049994Bet the update breaks every thing again faggots.
>>724067782So have you done Fallout 1 low int playthrough?>>724067912This but unironically. At least Fallout 4 doesn't make you want to hang yourself every time a battle starts.
>>724052787>>724067980Starfield is Daggerfall 2Literally the same procedurally generated slop
>>724068052I know right? Fallout 1 and 2 are just so outdated, slow, clunky. All those useless fucking numbers and choices to make.If you can't make a dialogue system with only 4 choices and quests where it's all action all the time, you should stay out of the RPG business kiddo.
>>724050635I did the first time but you aren't wrong chess master will make his money back.
>>724051325yeah basically thissame playbook as when they released skyrim at the original switch launchthey didn't even add fucking ray tracingthe New Vegas retread didn't update fucking anything either
>>724068130retard
>>724068136You're joking but it's all true. The original Fallout games are very clunky, even compared to games that came out just a year or two after them. I still play JA2 from time to time for the gameplay. And despite only 4 choices in dialogues the average quest in Fallout 4 has more choices than the average quest in Fallout 1/2.>>724068354Prove me wrong. Daggerfall is the same slop as Starfield.
>>724068384I'm not joking. It's a good thing Bethesda bought the IP to make better RPG's. You don't even get given a role in FO1-2 which fucking sucks.
>>724049994todd should stream his seppuku
>>724068269ultimate edition just comes with the DLC for free and its not a re-release/remaster
>>724049994the only good thing about fallout 4 was vault girl
>>724049994Lmao not a single new thing added, nothing improvedIts just a fucking Paid mod bundle, that's it. Of already existing paid mods on top of that.
>>724068750>the only good thing about fallout 4 was assaultron pornFTFY
>>724067912>>724068052>>724068130>>724068384>>724068480I kinda feel like steve irwin, hiding in the bushes just watching two retards communicate with each other. Is truly fascinating mate
>>724051148Wait, really? Is that why it takes up to three minutes sitting at the loading screen every time I enter a dungeon?
>>724058670it will kill company and hopefully take Activision with Xbox at once when both TES6 and constant COD flop one after another
>>724069293FO4's loading screen is directly linked to it's (capped) framerate.Meaning SSD or not, you will take ages to load unless you uncap the frames.
>>724049994Can't wait to play it I'm gonna have a blast.
>>724050635>>724050428It worked for Skyrim as their engine got updated and not crashing as often with mods. But for FO4 i don't see such upgrade.
>>724049994Hype is like Trix, for kids.
Is the game any good with mods? Are there any dialogue system overhauls?What about New London?
>>724069671YesYes but they suckNo, London sucks
>>724069671The problem with FO4 is they finally made the gameplay good and the world is greatBut literally everything else sucks, bad characters, bad story and bad missions
>>724070530>bad characters, bad story and bad missionsCan you specify what exactly is bad?The main storyline with the search for the son is bad, but the side quests and faction quests are at least decent.
Mods are still busted on FO4 because its dead. Why not release a starflop dlc? I mean that would be better because at least its new content, I'm surprised that they didn't because seems like that game was stripped of content before release. >>724054936F3, NV, and F4, are open world sandbox that you can mod to hell and back, that is the only upside of them.
>>724070803They’re all standard open world fetch questsThe only one I enjoyed was the silver shroud quest because it was unique
>>724060454Very common, unfortunately. Also seems like a lot of the information you see online is blatantly wrong. I've been tinkering with N64 emulation (since my console's audio is out of commission at the moment), and while there are a few issues, it works better than the majority of online posts would have you believe. I think the problem with N64 emulation is that lacks the "plug and play" aspect of emulating easier systems. You can't always use the same settings (depending on game), and that makes people think the emulator sucks.
>>724050209>nooo not muh heckin gooner modsAmazing how not one of the mods I have installed was "broken" by the last update.
>>724071079>Mods are still busted on FO4 because its dead???Basically all mods that require this have several versions now.>>724071231What about Cabot House or the U.S.S. Constitution?
>>724050209pretty sure they do that shit on purpose like ms office fucking with their formats to fuck libreoffices compatibility with it
>>724071453>Basically all mods that require this have several versions now.Not my niche vore fetish mods, that is the reason i still have it downgraded. Honestly, the only way I can play that game is with that mod.
>>724057068>cumbrains are too low IQ to appreciate spacePottery.
>>724071667Based. I've considered trying some of those out, myself.
>>724050174>>724050289
>>724050024They are holders of dead ips and their execs are idiots
>>724061890do you think microsoft execs will put the toddhead on a pike when TES flops?
>>724049994VEGAS TRANNIES BTFO
>>724050024I heard their infrastructure is completely fucked and no one in charge is competent, some guy will make a 8/10 mod that wins awards using their dogshit engine, get noticed, get hired and regulated to making textures, so there’s clearly some talented people still working there that’s experienced with their game design and coding yet they’re regulated to slave work that hardly benefits anyone least of all the player experience, all the nerds in higher positions either left or were pushed out, Todd couldn’t give less of a shit anymore as he probably walks away with a fat ass check every year.It’s a sinking ship kept afloat by tasteless people with poor spending habits and easily impressed investors that don’t play games.With Starfield being so horribly boring they’ve broken the magic spell they’ve held over people for years, Oblivion Remastered is probably the route they’re going now, to keep the boat afloat they’ll give every one of their games a facelift until the end of time, until it doesn’t make money, but people will buy anything
>>724072030Unironically why would it flop What are the two biggest issues with Starfield?The boring setting and procedurally generated planetsBoth those things are irrelevant to Elder ScrollsIt will take place on a single landmass and the setting is inherently already greatSo why do people think ES6 will be bad? Also fantasy is easier to write than sci fi or post apoc. Just look how something like the civil war of Skyrim still has more interest than anything else Bethesda has done and it is a pretty simple plot
I think you have to be gay to hate Fallout 4. You have cool guns, you can build yourself a shooting range/cool house and join the Nazis. Do you need more? Meanwhile Fallout 4 haters are just obsessed with their hatred and behave like fucking women. A normal person simply would not fixate so much on things they don't like. It's like these people have only played one game and want everything to be just like it>>724071667You can just use the old version of the game, there isn't a single mod here that requires new version
>>724049994Oh great. Another remaster outsourced to jeets for cheap labor, that is guaranteed to look worse. Throw some AI upscaling on it and call it a remaster.This industry needs to crash.
>>724072404I dunno man. I don't think is gonna flop either, but with Starfield many people realised that Bethesda is still stuck in 2011 and they refused to grow up. After starfield, many people worried for TES and with Emil and Todd on the team, things are not gonna get any better.
>>724072404>So why do people think ES6 will be bad? F4 - mixed reception, but sold wellF76 - complete shitshow but brushed off as a spinoffStarfield - absolutely kneecapped their reputation, only to release a undercooked over price DLC that made people even more disillusioned with themI have no doubts ES6 will sell well, however if those gameplay trailers aren’t top tier they’re undershooting their sales goal by wide margin, even with a massive marketing budget, they’ll need to bring their A game for marketing. It’ll probably be a 5/10 at best
>>724072283This is what happens when there is a class of people who can fail upwards and rest are pushed to shit shoveling no matter the skills
>>724072856You don't even know what a 5/10 game actually is
>>724072538>You have cool guns>Fallout 4lmao
>>724072761How is Starfield a 2011 game even if you don't like it? What 2011 game had 1000 procedurally generated planets with space combat and boarding and the ability to create your own space ship?
>>724071789>bitter fallout "fan" quoting new vegas as if its fucking deep while reminiscing about the classic gamesThe irony is insane lmfao.
>>724073124Yes
>>724072945Fallout 4 was a shit game and sold more than all their other fallout. That's not what I call failing upward. They were rewarded on results.
>>724072538>Do you need more?Good gameplay would be nice you know, kinda fundamental for a game really.
>>724073147Mass Effect did all of that way better. Bloated amounts of content is meaningless if it's just empty and devoid of fun.
>>724071789>BEAR BULL BULL BEARYou weren't humiliated enough yesterday?
>>724073532Mass effect had space combat?
>>724073508>Good gameplFallout 4 gameplay is good
>>724050289God, he’s such a fucking retard.
>>724071764You should, skyrim has a kino giantess mod.
Fallout 4 is good
>>724050024I honestly really appreciate Bethesda for giving me to option to play as Redguard woman who gets to marry a racist nord man.
>>724073736No, it just had sapient aliens you could fuck, which is all cumbrains care about.
>>724073786No it isn't it's rancid shit. Fallout 3 had passable gameplay, Fallout NV dressed it up and added some cool weapons, different ammo types, made the DT system over DR to make different ammo types useful and gave you weapon mods to make non uniques comparable to uniques. Then Fallout 4 basically threw all of this out and went back to the bad fallout 3 system and to add insult to injury they added weapon mods but most of them are total shit, like the beam splitter in nv it was amazing it was a straigh upgrade in 4 you can't hit a fucking target 2m in front of you because of the spread. The devs had no idea what they were fucking doing they just tried their hardest to make almost every gun feel like shit to use. Automatics? Just magically do less damage that their semi-auto counterparts so there's literally 0 reason to use them unless you just want to waste ammo, shotguns have gone back to being innactuate at anything but point blank range. These problems were all fixed in nv and they just went back to making the guns feel like shit. That is by far my biggest issue with the game is the weapons are ass and I don't want to use any of them.
>>724049994The creation stuff is so minimal it's embarrassing. They obviously can't get new voice lines, so they'll recycle dialogue or just have all the information given in convenient notes or terminal entries so no one has to speak.
>>724074051you know they broke all the mods again you retard
>>724074051>not pregnantSo close and yet so far
>>724074598Fixing it is a matter of five minutes>>724074623Disgusting
>>724074574Ironically, some of the better CC stuff is limited to cosmetics and settlement building. CC is overpriced, but the base game options are shit.
>>724074574This problem dates back to Skyrim, modders were simply not allowed to add voice acting to creations until recently. Now everything has changed and modders are already working on proper quests and AE will be adding Nate/Nora companions with new voice acting
>>724060454d*mn, impressive. you are smart, but your friend is not. very insightful. thank you, anon
>>724072404>Unironically why would it flopbecause they will ask full price for a turd?enjoy strong initial sales from braindead consoomers and then it'll die like MH wilds
BUY IT AGAIN GAIJIN
>>724060980Similar thing here. Chick at work paid for Youtube premium and I told her about adblock. She had no clue it was even a thing. Said "paying is easier".On one hand it's scary how retarded people are with tech but on the other if people started getting tech literate I'd be out of a job lmao.
>>724075576Who told you it would be $60? It will be $20 for people who already own Fallout 4 and $50 for people who don't.
>>724072761>many people realised that Bethesda is still stuck in 2011 and they refused to grow upI've never got this argument. Like, you could argue Rockstar is still stuck in 2000 since GTA V is just GTA3 with better graphics, and often less activities.Like, what do people actually want? making it into a movie game with cutscene every 5 minutes like CP2077 for that "cinematic" experience?
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>>724063246>a drop of cream will make the sea of shit taste betterEat up, shiteater.
>>724049994Everybody on this thread already knows, but this is so devoid of the same tone the original had. Yes I know 2 was also different but goddamn this is even worse. >Overwatch colors>Superhero generic music to "hype" up a post-apocalyptic setting>Power armor everywhere>Garbage writing>Barely any player agency in this "RPG"
>>724051450Money. Money always changes hands.
>>724076062Fallout 4 has a natural colour palette. You complain that rust and dirt are too brightFallout 4 music is greatPower armour being everywhere is explained. While Fallout 1 takes place in the middle of a barren desert Boston was full of military equipment and was not nukedFallout 4 writing isn't that far removed from Fallout 1. Please explain the Master's motivation to me so it doesn't sound like the motivation of the Institute from Fallout 4Fallout 4 has more endings for the game and most quests than Fallout 1
>>724051009I pirated all their games, except Starfield because it's garbage. Don't see point of buying their shit.
>>724050114*nint0ddlersi only bought 1 (pc) copy of fallout 4 and i'm a fangirl
>>724049994>looks exactly the same
>>724058670TE6 can be a 2d pixel sidescroller and it will still sell 100000000 copies
>>724077381It was never a graphical enhancement release.
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>>724049994>GET HYPESorry, I don't do that.
>>724076502>Please explain the Master's motivation to me so it doesn't sound like the motivation of the Institute from Fallout 4How would you expect anybody to do that? The Institute has no motivation. The Master believed super mutants were "meta-humans" and the inevitable future of the human race, ignorant to the reality that they are sterile because he was having them fight wars, not attempt to breed.
>>724060454>I'll save up for a few years to buy gamecube and N64 games>in the meantime I'll also buy a SwitchThis is why I can't take poor people seriously. Yeah it's definitely not your fault that you're poor.
>>724077875Do super mutants even age? I'm under the impression that they're functionally immortal excepting violent ends. The Master is balls to the wall insane either way, though.
>>724078132Originally they didn't age, in Bethesda lore their growth hormone turns them into behemoths which eventually get so infeasibly large they just starve to death.
>>724077875>The Institute has no motivationNot him but this just isn't true. The Institute's motivation is to continue to advance science underground, since they feel like the surface is a lost cause.
>>724067412>Fallout New Vegas fanatics pretend that their game is the best game in the world and everything else is shit>Unironically only the Fallout 4 community is reasonable enough to accept the flaws of their game and just not give a shit about other gamesIt seems like you created a very specific strawman in your head to cope with your own personal feelings on the games.
>>724078291Someone read about lobsters and thought it would be cool to put that in the game.
>>724077875>The Institute has no motivationThis is a lie. The institute has motivation, you were misled by random screenshots taken out of context.>Master believed super mutants were "meta-humans" and the inevitable future of the human racMaster's motivation is just plain stupid. ‘I will turn people into monsters so that they can survive in the wasteland while destroying the community of people who have no trouble surviving in the wasteland’Funny enough but even fucking Atom RPG made a more reasonable motivation for its antagonist when it copied Master and there it's literally one big joke
>>724078567>while destroying the community of people who have no trouble surviving in the wasteland’you're forgetting a chunk of his spiel. more than surviving, the master wanted to end the differences between people. he wants to erase humanity as it presently exists and use mutants as their great leap forward replacement>The Unity will bring about the master race. Master! Master! One able to survive, or even thrive, in the wasteland. As long as there are differences, we will tear ourselves apart fighting each other. We need one race. Race! Race! One goal. Goal! Goal! One people . . . to move forward to our destiny. Destiny.>muh atom rpg muh underrailknockoff niggers should fuck off
>>724078772How would you call a knockoff that is better than the original?
>>724074838Faggot
>>724049994Fun fact.A friend gifted me Fallout 4 nearly a decade ago and I never played it even once.
>>724050024Their fanbase is absolutely retarded.
>>724073381nice mod bro
>>724050289Bethesda owns the IP to this franchise for nearly 20 years and the only thing they can do is Flanderise ideas from 1997 instead of coming up with something new.
>>724079641Where was the Minutemen and Institue in Fallout 1/2 again?
>>724049994>people genuinely thought there'd be a fallout 3 remaster
>>724079921>Bethesda explicitly says, several days before the stream, there would be no new games>people act surprised when there are no new games
>>724079772>lazy nigger and Vault-Tec 2.0, Full-Retard EditionRiveting.
>>724080457Institute is nothing like Vault-tec.
>>724080753>retarded scientists that are just evil because reasonsSounds just like how Bethesda have been writing Vault-Tec.
>>724079772Ah yes the "there's a settlement that needs our help" faction and the plothole faction.https://youtu.be/CSKFRw5Q2vc?si=3G2jSUDbpv6Vgn5X&t=414
>>724081082Tell me you didn't play Fallout 4, without telling me.
>>724081178>no rebuttal
>>724081171I find this video funny, especially the part you time stamped because all this shows is>Fallout 4: Normal conversation in son's last moments>New Vegas: Lanius getting outwitted by a random who using plot hole filled logic that even NV stans have pointed out doesn't make sense.
>>724081317>a randomThe Courier's journey is all about how they go from being literally half-dead to perhaps the single most important person in the Mojave>logic that even NV stans have pointed out doesn't make senseBut it does make sense, Lanius even informs you of something that you'd have no other way of knowing: his Denver campaign was not the flawless victory Caesar said, but rather difficult and nearly cost Lanius way more lives than he was willing to spend, and it was all due to climate and supply linesIn the context of the Mojave it's very likely Caesaer could not (and out of arrogance, would not) keep Hoover Dam because the Legion's entire economy is based on imperialism and pillaging, even the NCR is bleeding out because they can't afford to maintain California and a whole other state
>>724081692>it's very likely Caesaer could not (and out of arrogance, would not) keep Hoover DamDoesn't he have like 4 INT? He's canonically a midwit who lucked into his position by using big words on raiders, who are just doing what they would normally be doing, but larping as ancient rome in the process.Lanius is alright.
>>724053818You can only play / feel an attraction to so many games anon, even in genres you love. For example, despite enjoying FPS games for almost 20 years I've never touched Call of Duty or Battlefield at all even though they're massive, omnipresent series in the space. Someone never going for Fallout 4 or Fallout as a series isn't that crazy.
>>724081692>But it does make senseIt doesn't make sense, for a number of reasons.The idea that the Legions can't hold theNCR's lands is only true in the hypothetical scenario that the Legion just immediately takes over all of the NCR's lands all at once. But that isn't how that would go, or even how the Legion works. the Legion comes in, takes a small area, beats up everyone/conditions them to accept Legion rule, then moves onto another small area. Defeating the NCR in the Mojave will leave them boxed in, without the resources they need to fight back. The Legion can spend all the time they want slowly taking it over piece by piece like they did in the Four States region.The logic the Courier uses here is the equivalent of saying that the Legion could've never expanded past the single original tribe they started off with because that tribe wasn't super big so "they lack the manpower to take over the lands of X neighboring tribe" That isn't how that works, and goes directly against how nation building has worked since time immemorial. Its beyond retarded, it doesn't follow any basic sense, its just a dumb 100/100 speech check to make the enemy stand down.
Nah
>>724081082>Sounds just like how Bethesda have been writing Vault-Tec.Bethesda had nothing to do with fallout 2 which is when the evil social experiment meme vault tec faggotry started.
>>724063246The problem of Fallout 4 is giving you too much information about “”Nate”” in the first place. This is supposed to be an RPG, not the witcher
>>724082704>too much information about “”Nate”He is a military veteran, has a family and that's basically it.
>>724082704>This is supposed to be an RPG, not the witcherThe Witcher is an RPG.RPGs are not, nor have they ever been about, total freedom in making up character backstory.motivation. Even back in the 80s and 90s many RPGs had premade characters with set motivations.
>>724072404Even with a good setting Bethesda will try their hardest to make it as boring as possible: see Skyrim.
>>724082824>The Witcher is an RPG.If you don’t have standards maybe.And this isn’t even getting to the gameplay side of things.
>>724083038>If you don’t have standards maybe.No, by every actual definition of an RPG its an RPG. Or are we just moving into "No true scottsman!" fallacies of what defines an RPG?
>>724083127Are you doing the JRPG thing by going “well you’re playing the role of Cloud Strife so it’s totally the same thing as DAO guys!!”
Fallout sucks.
>>724050209
>>724083217JRPGs are called JRPGs and not RPGs for a reason. Witcher 3 is just an RPG.
>>724083038Oh fuck off with this. Assuming the role of a predefined character is totally normal for an RPG.
>>724083269>>724083381Do you know why genres exist? It’s to serve as a guide to the consumer as to if they’ll like a product or not. By calling everything and anything an RPG (some game devs think of RPGs as inherently better for some reason so they call their action adventure games RPGs even when they don’t fit), we have essentially made the term useless, and so we have to make subgenres like crpg so we can actually differentiate games again. You have diluted language because you desperately want your favorite games to be called RPGs for whatever reason. Fuck you.
>>724082704Honestly I don’t really think that’s the issue it’s more so the voiced protag and 4 dialogue choice limit. Which you could say exists because of the forced backstory but that’s not really true at all. The basic backstory of >you existed in the past, woke up from your cryo sleep to find your [loved one] and [other loved ones] killerIt’s pretty standard fare really outside the cryo sleep. Vengeance and searching for answers.
Didn't they release that next gen update last year? So what exactly is this?
>>724083269I really don’t see the difference between Witcher 3 and a JRPG>you can make dialogue choices!plenty of JRPGs have that too.>you can date different women!persona has that!>you have different builds for GeraltYou can make different builds for Cloud, Tidus, and plenty of other JRPG protagonists.
>>724083625This is like the Skyrim anniv update-Has all the DLC-Includes all the Creation Club stuff, including previously unreleased stuff-Adds the new Creation mod system into the game.
>>724083558Maybe I just get more annoyed by this easier than other people. Starfield making me take a mining job (what if my character is physically weak or hates being in caves? Why would a chef become a miner anyway?) or Skyrim telling me I specifically crossed the border from Cyrodill pisses me off just a bit.
>>724083496Anon I agree with you in principal but you don’t need a custom character with a player created backstory to be an rpg. D&D which we all agree is an rpg is obviously predominantly played with custom characters but every edition always does have some premade characters to play with if someone wants to. Or in vidya terms, choosing to play as origin astation or dark urge doesn’t make BG3 not an rpg
>>724083819>Why would a chef become a miner anyway?Why do people take jobs thay aren't suited for IRL. They needed quick money.
>>724083827Ok sure I agree in principle too but that’s why I mentioned gameplay as well.I consider Cyberpunk an RPG, but not Witcher 3. And no, it’s not because the former has a cosmetic character creator.
>>724083819Nah, if you’re like me I know why. It’s because it’s trivial for those details to NOT be in the game but they specifically included it…which doesn’t really add anything to the game whatsoever.
>>724082824The problem with Fallout 4's protagonist(s) is that they give you too much backstory about them for you to totally make up your own character (family people, the sort of people to live in a suburb, specific careers), but they are also way too underwritten to be defined, pre-established characters. It occupies a middle-ground where the writers expect you to empathise with your player character losing their son despite them being bland as shit.
>shills actually trying to defend 4 and 76the absolute state of /v/
>>724071337>wassaaar
>>724083819it's just a game, quit thinking so much into it
>>724083982FO4 is ten years old, the average /v/ user is in their early 20s. Understand what this means in praxis.
>>724083974I never got this feeling at all. We see too little of Nate/Nora's pre-war life to get any real feeling how they are.
>>724083982>filenameYou’re the problem
>>724049994lol, lmao
>>724084115Even the things he mentioned are enough for you to get an idea of what kind of person they are.Not to mention that all this nonsense about Nate’s background is entirely to justify why he can use power armor immediately, all because Emil wanted to have an EPIC moment where the player guns down a DEATHCLAW WOOOOOAH. And if you choose Nora who’s just a lawyer it doesn’t make any sense at all and all the justification was useless. That’s the real problem.
I have pirated every single bethesda game starting with Morrowind they only release broken products I would never give them money.
>>724084332>Not to mention that all this nonsense about Nate’s background is entirely to justify why he can use power armor immediately,this was never the reason. In fact, Fallout 3 explcitly mentions power armor is so easy to use even children can do it without training.PA training was only a thing as a gameplay mechanic in Fallout 3, not a lore one. It was Obsidain who shit the bed and didn't realize that and tried to make it a lore thing. Fallout 4 just went back to how it was in Fallout 1-3, where no real training is required.
>Broke the creation shop when they made their shitty next gen update >Still not fixed>Starfield came out a while ago>There are shitty paid mods in starfield that were never fixed Good fucking lord
>>724083982Fallout 4 is a really good game if you like shooting stuff, collecting junk and building stuffFallout 76 is complete trash as a game but it's pretty good in terms of design. It turns out that Bethesda can make good designs when their income depends on it. Every time I see another FO76 update art I seriously consider returning to this mess only to remember that if you don't pay you'll be picking up crumbs off the floor.
>>724053142Chills
>>724063246>giving Nate (the Rake) some personalityWho gives a shit if none of it is in the game?Oh woow read 10 fallout books where nate actually such a cool character how about fuck you instead.
>>724061236at this point almost anything post apocalyptic is better than fallout, but yeah ashes is insane for a free game
>>724084592> I seriously consider returning to this mess only to remember that if you don't pay you'll be picking up crumbs off the floor.I've never paid for shit in 76, and never had this experience. Paying is 100% optional.
>>724084521Well then that’s even worse because then there’s actually no reason for Nate to be a military man, except to get into the vault (there are plenty of other ways to handwave this), and you realize that all of this nonsense is again designed to justify Emil’s shitty drama.
I don't remember buying76 and yet i have it in my steam hole. Every time i think maybe i should try it i remember that its only a matter of time until "cockmongler69" will appear and start doing some gay shit in my face.
>>724084842>actually no reason for Nate to be a military man, except to get into the vault (there are plenty of other ways to handwave this)It easily could have been tied to your highest special stat, you won le contest
>>724084842>Well then that’s even worse because then there’s actually no reason for Nate to be a military man, By this logic there was no reason to make the Fallout 1 protag a Vault Dweller, or the Fallout 2 protag a tribal.>and you realize that all of this nonsense is again designed to justify Emil’s shitty drama.Except Nate being in the military doesn't play into the narrative at all. So this argument doesn't even make sense.
>>724084684>Paying is 100% optionalI hear this shit all the time and it's fucking bullshit. Playing without a subscription is just fucking painful and MOST of the good cosmetic items are bought in the Atom Store. You can play it for free, but you'll just be picking up crumbs off the floor. Want fishing stuff for your camp? Wait a couple of years until we decide to sell it to you again for $20 if you still have our subscription.>>724084852Fallout 76 community is one of the most mentally unhinged I've ever seen. On one hand you have unironic trannies and on the other maga retards who larp as the Enclave
>>724085036> Playing without a subscription is just fucking painfulIt literally isn't.>and MOST of the good cosmetic items are bought in the Atom Store>dress up faggingOhh, you're one of those trannies.
>>724055165Their creative nothing hapless failures working for them so behind 99% of their failings >inb4 muh business LMAOIOOOO
>>724084965Being part of a vault or a tribe are a lot more vague backgrounds than being part of the military, and you know this. What if my character is sickly and weak, but has a great mind? You could see someone like this being born in the Vault, but no competent military would send someone like that on the fields of battle.>Except Nate being in the military doesn't play into the narrative at all.Exactly. They essentially majorly hurt the role playing aspect of their game for no reason. It’s as >>724083964 said
I haven’t given Bethesda money since this pile of trash launched in 2015
>>724085245>What if my character is sickly and weak, but has a great mind?Could've been in the intelligence group.
>>724085135Anon, designs are literally the only good thing about Fallout 76Gameplay is just Fallout 4 but worse, quests are just MMO trash, and the community is mentally ill. Building camps and collecting are the only enjoyable things about the game and they are locked behind a subscription and cash shop
>>724085389>Anon, designs are literally the only good thing about Fallout 76Besides the map, the enemy variety, the post laucnh qestlines like Wastelanders, Steel Dawn/Reign, skyline Valley, etc. Camp building is mid, like it was in Fo4.
I’m someone who likes fallout 4 but never understood why anyone got scammed by 76 it was so obviously going to be a disaster. Starfield was pretty obvious that it was shit too but 76 was a giant radioactive red flag
>>724085519As I said Fallout 76 community is mentally ill and you are proof of that
>>724049994wtf
>>724085616Yeah, especially when it turned out that Fallout 76 and Fallout 4 models are 90% compatible
>>724049994>its exactly the same game but with creation club slop FORCED into the experience
>>724049994Can we stop shit flinging to acknowledge how fucking great it is to come to Switch 2. The game is perfect for short bursts for months.
>>724087018>bethesda game >on a console >specifically a JP platform >where mods will never be allowed because to suggest a thing will have Nintendo strike you down as the dog you are
>>724063246this entire post is a great example of why bethesda should never make another voiced protag again
>>724074051>>724074838would, except fallout 4 doesn't have a race slider so you would have to disable and enable whenever you want to play as a different modded race, or you have to DIY your own companion being that certain modded racethe cyborg jackal mod is cool
>>724053421And it's not Bethesda anymore, it's Microsoft.
>>724049994fuck me i forgot how ugly the game is, it looked better in my mindlooking at this it reeks of early 2010
>>724053818Ive never played lol
>'Member pipboy?>'Member ghouls?>'Member super mutants?>'Member the Enclave?>'Member deathclaws?>'Member power armor?>'Member nightkin?>'Member JET?...the series.
>>724090405At the time, it was a breath of fresh air compared to 3 and New Vegas.Even hardcore NV fans admit it looks like shit
>>724090405It was good graphics for the time, at least coming from Bethesda at any rate. People really thought they'd turn it around and start innovating more in their games. If only we knew.
>>724091402>and start innovating more in their games.I always love seeing this, because people say they need to innovate more, but rarely if ever go into detail on what they'd like see changed.
>>724090405i still want to fuck piper relentlessly
Bloodbug
>>724050179nobody will notice since fuckin nobody plays fo4
>>724050174Mad Max RPG that got Flanderized into some kind of wicky wacky 1950's bottlecaps and hecking goodboy doggos franchise.
>>724091814>nobody plays fo4Its the most played Fallout game to this day, by far. Gets around 20,000 players on its weekly peak.
>>724050024Unironically this >>724072283I talked to Bethesda devs, there is talented passionate fallout fans there and the executives only want slop because creation club does in fact rake in piles of money
>>724091643Basically anything the mods do as integrated features. Animation rigging, gameplay systems, companion system, even the shooting in FO4 was much, much improved compared to FO3/NV, to say nothing of what they did to power armor. The way looting worked was a huge improvement as well. Sadly they took a lot of backsteps as well. At the time, a lot of people thought they'd take these systems and further refine them in future games, then we got FO76 and nothing else until Saarfield.In any case, the point is that back then FO4 was seen as a step in a good direction for Bethesda in many ways. Didn't last, and its flaws are more prominent in hindsight.
>YES YES YES SELL ME THE SAME GAME AGAIN AND BREAK MY MODS YES PLEASE BETHESDA FUCK MY FACE HOLY SHIT I LOVE ITI cannot overstate how much better off the industry would be if Microsoft shut Bethesda down and gave the IPs to literally any other studio.I guess we have to wait until TES VI comes out and bombs for them to dissolve that shitpile studio.And yes, it will bomb hard. You're immensely deluded out of touch if you think otherwise.Bethesda have not made a single good game in over a decade, and even before that, they weren't particularly good, just okay. Every game they make is shittier than the last.
>re-release 10y old game>0 improvement>bundle it with 150 shit mods, equivelent of (and higher quality) you can get for free on nexusmods>that'll be 70$
>>724092143Zoinks, Todd! You're a genius!
>>724087018FO4 practically requires console commands, at minimum, to be an enjoyable experience, and many people play with mods. The Switch version won't have access to these, so I wouldn't set my expectations high. You're better off sticking to Skyrim on console.
>>724087018i could play fallout 4 on my deck 3 years ago. if you used other handheld pcs, 10 years ago.
>>724087018>spend $500 on gaijin tabletu + $60 + $10 tip + undisclosed tribute to Godd Howard to pay for mods to play vanilla F4 in the shower>this is a good thing
>>724092019>a lot of people thought they'd take these systems and further refine them in future games, then we got FO76 and nothing else until Saarfield.Fallout 76 did refine several of these systems, as did Starfield.Starfield in general was pretty big improvement over their last few games-Bigger towns that are more populated.-Faction questlines are quite long, with decent setpiece moments, and actually let you make some choices on how the questline plays out-Companions were improved upon compared to Fallout 4, taking everything Fallout 4 did, but also letting companions actively step into conversations and resolve situations where it makes sense.-Starfield massively improved RPG elements, adding ack in traits, and backgrounds, as well as many hundreds of skill/trait/background checks, as well as the already mentioned choices during the major questlines.-New gameplay mechanics like starship building, flying, combat, being able to board and capture enemy ships etc. etc. were added, on top of things like cars
>>724049994Did they fix any of the retarded quests and dialogue or is this just "here we put a HD texture pack on it and slap on some other mods, $70 please"
>>724072283Going by the words of one dude who worked there during Skyrim their marketing department has fallen for the Toddposting memes. They don't like it when some upstart tries to steal his thunder because it fucks with the overall brand recognition.
>>724090865It's basically like the Star Wars sequels in terms of only existing to sell merch nowadayshttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BJgLa3eKMYs
>>724092006What do they mean by "Fallout fans" because someone saying that 76 is slop while praising 4 isn't really a good thing.
>>724090865>when a mod from HoI4 takes a leap to map out the north and south Americas spinning up a number of potential storytelling vectors beyond the corporate mandated remember berriesYou could make an entire vidya based around the Aztec inspired AI sitting in the core of Mexico City running on a pseudo Dead Man's Hand switch. Otherwise you can go one step further with the actual Mayans now ghoulified and larping in and around the irradiated ruins of Chichen Itza.
>>724092736What the fuck do you think, of course it's a cash grab
They made one good game and then the next 25 years was spent trying to get rid of everything that was good about that game seemingly out of spite. Lolcow company.
>>724093678>spent trying to get rid of everything that was good about that game seemingly out of spite.Lol no they haven't.
Looks like they`ve changed...Nothing at all!
>>724093678>They made one good gameWhich was???
>>724094472Morrowind, Oblivion, Fallout 3, Skyrim, Fallout 4. Pick one.
>>724092736You'll take some AI upscaled textures and indian-made unoptimized high-poly model assets and then...? You're going to look me in the eye, and say... "THANK YOU Todd-sama-san-chan."
>>724084592I feel the same way. If they made a moddable offline version of the game it'd be great. Building pieces which aren't hideous really elevates it. Instead it'll become lost media like Elder Scrolls Legends.
>>724093468>human curie No thank you
>>724095789Is this robo bitch based off of the one from BLAME!?
>>724063246fair counterpoint : You're a retarded slop eater and your opinion on RPGS/Fallout is worth less the shit I took this morning
>>724096672Anon....thats Glados.
>>724090865what about the Enclave makes them cream so hard
>>724094205It’s either that or they are the stupidest developers on the planet.
>>724097649They're convenient
>>724097776>Stupiedest>Made some of the most suessful game ever>Even Saarfield out performed most other gamesThey seem to know what they're doing.
>>724097649They are The Black Legion to The BOS' Ultramarines.
>>724050289Only good lore from fallout 4
>>724049994But that's the same game
