>/v/ likes Japan and role playing games >/v/ doesn't like Dragon Quest Why does it filter the westerner?
I dislike a lot of RPGs but I enjoyed the first DQ. It's like Zelda 1 but with simple turn based combat so even a grandma could beat it.
>>724070594excessively linear compared to WRPGs, in fact it was the originator of the term "But Thou Must!" on TV Tropesbasically a visual novel with stat checks required to turn the page, which is supremely popular in Japan but not as much in the USA
>>724070594Antiquated gameplay that fills a niche done better elsewhere now and the designs were only really good early on.
>>724070594Because by any standard but an extremely biased one, Dragon Quest is a very boring, very bad game.
>>724073276but the west loves VNs that try to hide the fact they're vns?
>>724073280it's how the classic debate over games as art plays outin Japan, the dev team creates all the art, and the player just walks through the digital gallery admiring itin the USA, the dev team only creates the tools that are then given to the players to make the art, and the players make anything from Ugandan Knuckles to fucking kino Skyrim mass dragon army battles
>>724073669>tries to pretend all vidya is vngb2reddit
>>724070594I like dragon quest thoughever
>>724070594It's boring and the only actual thing it had over other rpgs was Toriyama's character design
>>724073023I liked DQ1 because it's a rare case of a JRPG without a party, and I really like that
Japan only likes pokeshit snd the west like that shit too
>>724073772Not all of them. Just a lot of shit like Life is Strange and Night in the Woods.
>>724073896That's the reason I don't like DQ1. 1v1 combat isn't fun when it's turn-based.
>>724074078yeah the combat is worse, but I like it for the atmosphere/sense of adventure it gives
>>724070594Even in Japan, only actual boomer like Dragon Quest. Zoomer don't give a shit about it anymore.
>>724070594the vegeta face is just too powerful.
>>724074007even Life Is Strange and Night in the Woods let the players make choices that screwed all kinds of things up, hell even Corruption of Champions had options>WRPG: The bear is there but you don't have to fuck it>JRPG: But Thou Must fuck the bear so I can continue telling my story
>>724073023DQ1 is the best DQ but i think i mostly just like the way it feels closer to the CRPGs that inspired it
>>724074269what if I don't care for choices and endings and I just want turn based combat?
>>724074269>muh choices why are westerners obsessed with every game being a CYOA book?
>>724074473then by all means enjoy your JRPGs, most of Japan wants the same thing and they make and sell lots of really good ones
>>724070594Which of the DQ games can I play that arent censored and are not memelocalized?
>>724070594Dragon Quest other than 8 and maybe Joker are too tame and boring.
>>724074823Joker 1 is too slow Joker 2 is better.
>>724074569because we enjoy crafting our own stuff, including our own preferred storylines in the video games we playespecially when we can make a viral machinma video showcasing all the crazy stuff we can do that the devs never intended
>>724074569Because that's essentially what a quest/campaign module is for actual roleplaying games just narrated by some 40-50 old grognard (in order to allocate the system resources for sandbox and running the world) who probably served time grinding away at World Of Warcraft when you were in your mother's womb dreaming of being able to fuck D&D monster pussy and writing fanfics (his own setting) to run for his crew. That's how a lot of old CRPGs started. Personal campaigns so you could play at home.
>>724074823Dragon Quest 8 was a big departure for the series, actually having two endings depending on whether the protagonist could prove themselves an heir or not, and even more in the remake, where you could actually end up marrying Jessicalike Chrono Trigger, it was not at all popular in Japan but possibly one of the most popular games in the USA for this reason
probably shit gameplay and unpolished UI / anims
>>724075339As a kid I didn't get a chance to play it but it was 100% intriguing to see with its graphics being pure Toriyama as I had read through Dragon Ball prior, all volumes.
>>724075520Chrono Trigger had an almost insane variety of storylines and endings you could get, and possibly the most convoluted plot in any JRPG before or sincesadly, Squeenix saw this as a huge problem that should never have happened, and spent the next decades doing everything in their power to torch the franchise and run
>>724075041>actual roleplaying games As opposed to... Not actual role playing games...?
>>724075852>50% combat.>25% exploration, 25% problemsolving/dialogue options. No hand holding.There you go.
>>724075440/thread
>>724075951Who decided this, other than you? What if exploration is only 24%, is that still a role playing game?
>>724076082>within the margin whataboutism.holy shit anon.
>>724074225Zoomers are all trannies
>>724070594The main thing it had going for it was charm and thanks to Square Eni slurping ESG, there no more reason to get into DQ games.
>>724075852“Actual roleplaying games” as in “the tabletop shit that was the ancestor to the fucking JRPGs you’re playing now.” Classic Dungeons & Dragons, and other games that the DM ran for you and gave YOU the choice in how your character responded to the world. If you don’t see the appeal in CYOA elements in an RPG, why not just play a fucking board game?
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Why is this thread anti JRPG in general and not anti DQ?
>>724076383>MUH ROLEPLAYING cringe
>>724076543Stick to your cinemasony slop then.
>>724076530because these threads are made by the same nigger to attract the samefags every thread DQ is SOVL so it has to be shit on by nu-/v/eddit
>>724073276>TV TropesYou have to go back
>>724076530Westerners think that RPGs are required to be sandboxes that let you do anything, with their reasoning being "it's like D&D", you know, if that game was actually Minecraft.
>>724076675>projection baldurslop is peak cinemasnoy garbage complete with faggot bears sex and marvel quips
>>724076735the real conversations are already over, faggotthe rest of the thread is just going to be you and your fellow faggots screeching at each other like so many dancing gmod monkeyshave fun faggots
>>724077005>real conversations you samefagging your thread isn’t a real conversation nigger
>>724076880BG3 is an RPG, your tranimeslop movie isn't.
>>724077367>BG3 is embarrassing tranny erpslop for obese brownies JRPGs are godly gamer sovl kino for white aryans
>>724076383Yes, choices. Choices like, rolling for agility, or falling onto a bed of spikes and dying. Accepting a request, or ignoring it. Choices.
