So, did it kill Soulslikes as people expected?
just played and finished black for the first time, why does this look like some vr hologram setting
Starting a thread with a false premise: 20 points deducted from your 4chan card
if fromsoftware were made this same exact game it would've sold millions more
this shit flopped hard
>>724077839if From made this game it wouldn't look like an ugly pos with a twink MC.
I genuinely hate the art style of this game. It doesn't feel like Ninja Gaiden at all. Maybe vaguely reminiscent of ng3 which would be the worst place to draw inspiration from
NiGa4 flopped hard fr fr
>>724077413No, but it did filter a lot of Fromslop-enjoyers. I've already seen two streamers quit because it was "too hard" (it's still easier than NG1 and 2).
>>724077685ng1 is set mostly in an empoverished eastern european military state2 adds future mega skyscrapers and shit. this is the logical next step
>>724078737Yes but did it outsell Elden Ring or even Sekiro? That's the important question.
>>724077413Lord Miyazaki killed the soulslikes himself with his new online crap because he felt like it. A tertitiary niche game has no agency to do that.
>>724077413>kill Soulslikes as people expected?I don't think literally anyone thought this would happen. They are completely different genres and the playerbases don't overlap too much
>>724078259ironic, since most Fromsoft games look like last gen trash because they are literally incapable of making technological progress when it comes to graphics or optimization
>>724077413>did it kill Soulslikes as people expected?Literally not a single soul expected that.
>>724081049Every NG thread during the past year was full of posts like that, claiming that "Soulslikes are weakened and NG4 will kill them"
it should have been kenji and ryu teaming up in this gameyakumo is gay and lame
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the dual swords suck
>>724081724I hope pic isn't AI since it goes hard.
>>724083190>The best weapon in the game sucks
>>724077413Ng4 was a easy flop of the year and concord of action game
>>724081724Our heroes!
>>724078776NGB has cyborg soldiers, laser drones, rocket shooting helicopters and blimps.
>>724083419...and Kenji Mozu too I guess.
>>724078554>I genuinely hate the art style of this game. It doesn't feel like Ninja Gaiden at allThis is the heart of the issue with NG4. It would be a fine spinoff, but it should never have been a numbered entry in the series. The new protagonist sucks, the new combat mechanics suck, the movement sucks, there's no real exploration. There's just a pervading sense of tedium. Unlike NGB and NG2, the biggest strike against NG4 is that it just isn't fun.
Whites love it. Arabs and indians hate it
>>724083353explainI really want to like the dual swords
>>724084294Who cares? those pasty fucks are gonna be replaced by said Arabs and Indians in a decade or two.
>>724084460This is who calls you a shill for talking about games you like and hates steam for devaluing knives in CS kek
>>724077413the only thing that can kill soulslikes is Miyazaki dropping em for goodNG4 is just a nice, safe ripoff of revengeance
>>724077839The director behind Sekiro made AC6 and it didn't sell so well.Team Ninja is doing more marketing for Nioh and ROTR.
>>724084526>>724084526Non bait-shitstirring thread.
>>724077413No one expected that, schizo.
>>724083768You only see the cyborgs on hard and above if I remember correctly, so normalfags aren't aware.
>>724084593and you can do nothing about it lmao wallow in misery as your own people betray you
>>724077839just like how ac6 sold super well, right?
>>724077413Ninja Tool Kit alone is better and more creative weapon than any ER. You tell me
>>724077839>this same exact gameThey cant, though
bros... i forgot to buy the old games on the xbox live arcade....
>>724084907Nta didn't it sell like 5million? That's pretty good
>>724078737Why does everyone seem to conveniently ignore the easy mode the game added, but then complain the game is too hard
>>724085056Darksouls "hardcore" gamers would rather ragequit the game when dying on normal, than switching to easy mode. It hurts their inflated ego.
>>724085212idk i feel like the newgen dark souls fans really like autistic challenges so they would probably like this shitthe problem is getting these retards to play anything that isnt dark souls
>>724077839From probably would have made a better looking and more thematically cohesive game with a better ambience. the further ninja Gaiden leans into this cringe future lazy poorly and overly designed cyberpunk shit the lamer and more generic the franchise feels. It actually feels cheap like some kind of licensed game aesthetic. at its strongest it always had a balance between present and a tad of near future but with lots of older stuff and ancient feeling areas as well. chapter 1 ninja fortress in NGB is a great example. from is great with atmosphere and would have brought the series back from being full retard consoomoid slop.(Not even a from shill. The new armored core game looks like shit)
>>724085317Anon, dark souls requires you to press 2 buttons, dodge and attack. When these niggers try ninja gaiden, where the bread and butter is constantly GTs and IDs and UTs, which require all multiple timed inputs? Their zoomerbrains get literally fried. Look at that le epic gamer streamer that ragequit ng4 for being "unpolished" or whatever he said lmao.
>>724085374Nigga ninja blade BY FROMSOFTWARE literally exists. It is the biggest pile of garbage ever made
>>724085680yeah but the issue was they were trying to make something new from the ground up. I think with the NG license using existing work as a template whatever they made would have felt less phoned in and a more authentic/artistically inspired product compared to NG4 by platinum. personally (and I’ve argued this before) I have always felt that they should introduce a new hayabusa ninja as an excuse to slow the gameplay back down to something more similar to NGB without so much dogshit happening at once. Either way though tou can compare platinum games and from games and platinum games never really have much of a sense of atmosphere to them, they always feel super sterile and often have this gaming computer look to everything. From games and their sense of aesthetics and atmosphere (goes back to the ps1 days) would have been a better fit at capturing and expanding on the ninja gaiden universe. making interesting levels is probably one of the best things FROM does and one of the biggest complaints about NG4 other than the retarded main character is how boring the levels almost all look. It’s standard platinum world building.
it's an excellent gamefeels like mgr2
>>724077413Imaqtpie played it picked hard mode said game is dogshit because you can't cancel animations then refunded after dying 100 tomes
>>724077413It saved at least 1 anon, so for that, I say NG4 is based. See pic.
>>724078776What about 3?
>>724085374>the further ninja Gaiden leans into this cringe future lazy poorly and overly designed cyberpunk shit the lamer and more generic the franchise feels.Absolutely not true. There have been NONE, ZERO 3D games that adapt or reinvent the classic modern/future ninja aesthetics well, at least that I'm aware of. Shinobi, kunoichi and old ninja gaiden kinda tried but they've pretty much restricted themselves to character designs and some lab areas.
70 is about 40 too much
>>724084665What the hell are you talking about? Sekiro sold over 10 million units. AC6 sold over 3 million but that is a mech game and for that genre that is actually extremely good. In fact its probably the highest selling mech game of all time at this point.
>>724077839FromNormalfagware is incapable of making a game like NG4, they don't have the talent for it. 80% of FromNormalfagware is incompetent dogshit, I've added 80% FromNormalfagware to my blacklist.I will only buy a game by them that has the S-Team, Yamamura / Hamatani, involved, if not, then they won't get my money.Sekiro and Armored Core VI are their best games.
>>724081724>yakumo isJapanese made. Designed by a cutie Christmas Cake.>Kenji isA faggot made by spics.>BUT SPANIARDS ARE EUROPEA-Spics.
>>724081724Ragebound is dogshit made by passionless, talentless, unqualified western subhumans who are trans-inclusive feminist activists pretending to be a game development studio. I am happy ragebound flopped.
>>724081724Yakumo and Ryu effortlessly portray superior Japanese design. The other two just seem like generic western-made wannabes. Never give a Japanse IP to a western developer.That redhaired gingernigger faggot is such a wannabe, totally lame. Yet that ugly dyke is somehow even worse.
>>724083301It doesn't go hard at all, kill yourself ragebound faggot.
I can't afford a $70 game right now because the Democrats shut down the government because MUH IMMIGRANTS. I won't get my benefits because of them.
>>724087297I need you to do a better job of conveying specifically what your point is and the argument youre making before I reply. I don’t want to waste my time writing something up effort posting unless you do it
>>724087581>Sekiro and Armored Core VI are their best games.have you played their old shit like otogi and ninja blade? and the old armored cores?
>>724077413roguelite hordeslop replaced soulslop grandpa
>>724088569>ninja bladelmao
>>724081724>yakumo is gay and lame>recommends kenji insteadRagebound was literally made by a gay and lame indie studio. This shit is still on their website.I don't like Yakumo either but he's leagues above Game Kitchen's western garbage.
>>724077413>yeah just get an RTX card to run our upscaled PS4 goyslop at 1080p 60fps (with dlss on :^))every single retarded tech illiterate indian who "worked" on this game deserves to be killed
>>724077413You can't kill slop, their will always be more
>>724089178better than soulsslop
>>724089910Honestly, I would love FromSoftware to do a Ninja Blade 2.
>>724088284>chuck schumer made ng4 flopone pearl harbor was not enough
>>724088305I'm saying that the cyber-feudal tokusatsu "style" looks anything but generic when applied well.Examples:mirai ninja, zeiram, sengoku ace, hagane, kabuki quantum fighter, ninja warriors, shadow of the ninja, slave zero x, vengeful guardian moonrider, cyber shadow etc.What I'm also saying is that i never saw 3D game pull it off extremely well, ninja gaiden 4 problem isn't futurism but the fact that it tries to ape ghostrunner/cyberpunk 2077 In short:"old good, new bad"
>>724077413Of course generic platinum action slop didn't do shit once gain.
>>724077413You probably jerk off to Lies of P porn so you have no cause to talk
>>724077413the people love RGB twinks nowwe won
>>724090839If your argument is that ninja gaiden could in theory work in a more futuristic setting, (despite ng4 being trash) and that the problem is that the concept is never executed properly, I can maybe understand what you’re saying to a degree. if there was a cyber ninja design that I like I would probably say something like metal gear solid gray fox is decent. I would prefer it have elements that still look somewhat traditional, but it’s strength as a design at least lies in the fact it isn’t covered with an overwhelming amount of greeble and shit and has a relatively streamlined and sleek look. the problem with basically all cyberpunk futuristic shit is that it all copies the design aesthetic of faggot gaming peripherals like modern graphics cards, razr gaming mice, etc. (faggot in the unreasonable retarded sense not the homosexual sense you see)Regardless though I do not think it’s a good direction for ninja gaiden to push into increasingly futuristic areas because you just end up having more encounters being machine guns, rocket launchers, large robots, cyborg abominations, increasingly boring sterile environments, shitty boring drone enemies that hover and annoy you with lasers, etc. I don’t mind a bit of that stuff in a ninja gaiden game here and there maybe for variety but at that point in that setting I want to play as a character with access to a bunch of sophisticated tech as well. And that isnt what ninja gaiden is about. You just are a ninja with a sword and some other simple tools and your agility. Really I think if you wanted some ninja in the future game tou need to give him a bunch of tools like some level of cloak and stealth tech, a laser sword (since youre against futuristic guns it’s only fair) probably some type of Sam fisher night vision and hear vision tools, etc. obviously at that point it’s a different game
>>724091968>Regardless though I do not think it’s a good direction for ninja gaiden to push into increasingly futuristic areas because you just end up having more encounters being machine guns, rocket launchers, large robots, cyborg abominationsFor the 100th fucking time people that have never played NG please fuck off from these threads
>>724077413This game didn't even make a dent.
>>724077839If fromsoftware made this game, it would have better art direction.
I'm loving NG4I loved other TN/Plat gamesI love FS games as wellI'm eating surprisingly good now, literally can't complain. If TN announces DoA7 at Game Awards that will make me even harder but alas that's unlikely to happen.
>>724092127Why do you think that ninja gaiden NEEDS to have so much futuristic shit in it? we do not have many ninja games at all anymore. It taking place in modern times is already a stretch and that only works because the games usually have levels to offset that in more traditional old world areas too. If you want a ninja game that is just in the future then just make a game where your character looks like snake eyes or something from Gijoe or raiden from MGR/mgs4. Half of ninja Gaidens appeal is it’s simple sections where it’s just you fighting other ninjas and other guys with swords and martial arts weapons. Samurai and such. Basically it’s one the the only appealing aspects of the franchise because the majority of the demon designs and monsters in recent games look retarded and fucking autistic, and you would enjoy fighting demons more in devil may cry. then by shoehorning in all of this futuristic shit, you basically just turn it into even more of a joke and a mess because few of any of the designs ever look good. they need to narrow their scope down and go back to the basics and up the quality instead of overextending themselves poorly executing a bunch of random bullshit
>>724093286I hope she's playable in a DLC / black edition.
>>724085615nah i disagree if anything i feel like they'll pick up one of these games and they will be blown away by the most basic shit like the dodge not having half a second of input lag lmao. i really do feel like the biggest problem these games have is lack of exposure cause they dont have big advertising budgets >le epic gamer streamerim talkin about the real gamers
>>724093590Spoiler at your own risks she dies.
>>724095208You can still make her playable.Technically, playing Vergil in DMCs don't make sense story wise, but it's still nice to play him.