>Forced to play as the scrappy underdog rebels again
>>724108672that image is a trick. both sides are the good guys
Playing as the powerful empire who can in theory get stuff done with minimal effort without even directly needing the use of the player character, would not make for a good game or story.
>>724108879I think there's potential.
>>724108879>playing as the rebels who predictably wins every time instead would make for a good game retard
>>724108879The structure of typical open world RPGs make more sense if you're playing a character who is competent but has limited agency within the system, so while you might be the only one holding a situation together, you're gonna get sent to do some useless assholes busy work because he has leverage or rank on you.For this, a large sprawling empire makes more sense than a plucky underdog faction.
>>724108879>play as the only actual competent officer rising through the ranks of the Evil Ass Rape Empire by being the single person who can stop the plucky rebel good guys from succeeding in their impossible odds mission (for some asinine reason)would be kewl, Battalion Wars had something similar, I think? I can't remember.
>>724109516Yes, just think about it. It has everything you need to facilitate the story and gameplay. You got grunts, a huge amount of manpower and enemies you can inevitably go through, a tier based chain of command lending to bosses of various types, as well as a far and wide spread presence.>>724109516>who predictably wins every time instead would make for a good gameNot an argument, the player always wins usually anyway. It's as contrarian as complaining that the big fucking dragon somehow gets taken out by the puny human hero.
>>724108672>I want to work under all powerful empire lead by the most blatantly evil people imaginable We call that real life except the bad guys can’t even be bothered to look cool
>>724109746People within a rigid monolithic hierarchy rarely have the freedom to move from their posting.Now you have to invent a position that has next to total freedom to justify being able to move around as you want, when as a member of a rebellion that freedom is a given from the start.
>>724108879Call of DutyYou are the "minimal effort" guys.
>>724109967nah BW is like the first AW where you're just kind of a faceless entity and for the NPCs, everything is made up and your rank doesn't matter
>>724108879In SWTOR playing empire is vastly superior to republic.
>>724108879Papers Please?
I just like mooks.
>>724110305It's a trade off I suppose, some high up hero of a rebellion taking side quests out of the goodness of their heart to collect twenty bear asses makes less sense than them being ordered by a superior to collect twenty bear asses.The real problem is that very few games give you an authentic hero's journey were by the end you have guys you can order around to handle the bear ass collection while you do important shit, since this is presumably to hard to implement well the best solution is to just make you a glownigger type operator for the amoral empire and let you try to balance doing the right thing with doing your job.
>>724110943LIVE FREE IN THE NC
>>724110005>It's as contrarian as complaining that the big fucking dragon somehow gets taken out by the puny human hero.I think this
quick /v/, post your absolute all-time favorite mook(s)
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>>724110823>No real Sith Warrior game where I get to play as an Imperial patriot who gets sent out to make the trains running on time again
>>724111139I wish GI Joe had better games. I love the stock Cobra troopers are great.
>>724108672
>>724112856they look sick but also just make me think of CSS GIGN
>>724112993>warhammer 40k
>>724112993Not even visual distinction besides colour is lame.
>>724108879
>>724111139been using this guy as my PFP for about a decade now
>>724110005>Not an argument, the player always wins usually anyway
>>724111139always liked the nondescript terrorists in Broforce, they're such funny little guys
>>724111139Both pirates and privateers. Their dialogues are kino
>>724112856I don't get how the hell Cobra still manage to out recruit, outspend and out tech GI Joe whose supposedly backed by the US government. Is being a Cobra mook that profitable than being a Joe mook?
>>724114913Federal salary that gets paused by government shutdown every other year vs. George Soros NGO money. Think about it.
>>724112993At least do it right you dumbass
>>724110305playing as a fixer agent who effectively does dirty work for the empire to make sure the evil machine's gears are well oiled would be a cool concept imo. you have some kind of a shadow agent with the justification as to why he's doing his own shit and you still get both an evil-ass empire dude and a reason to still fight the empire, even if its the shittier ends of them. I think the bigger issue is most normies are put off by the idea of being someone with no morality and just coldly killing people that might be trying to do the "correct" thing, like personally I'd love some real gritty details on how exactly the empire manages to keep fear up even among their ranks but having half your quests be "curbstomp the guy who was stealing supplies to give to homeless children, then curbstomp them" probably wouldn't win most normal people over
>>724114968Would Cobra cover my healthcare, loans and other liabilities though?
>>724115148Imagine you got on a job recruitment website and saw a "private security" job with bare minimum fitness standards, student loan repayment, health coverage, life insurance payouts, and free plane tickets to some island paradise that is totally not an evil supervillain's death laser.You would take it, wouldn't you? I would.
>>724115148In the cartoon they mention that Cobra has a health plan with dental. In one episode when Cobra went belly all the troopers were able to file for unemployment. Also the Crimson Guard mention being part of a union.
>>724115867Hey these guys don't sound bad... are we.........the bad guys?
>>724116040Remember when Cobra tried to eliminate fiat currency?
>>724108879Nigga that is litterally Warhammer 40k.
>>724115363If I knew I was gonna have to face Brock? Not a chance in hell
>>724111139MechSuits are Cool
>>724116294Eh, Brock's just assigned to Venture because of the Orb. As long as you're not fucking with a MacGuffin you're good.
>>724116040Most of Cobra are your typical hard working Americans that cannot get a job. Compare to GI Joe>most likely elites>act like a bunch of frat boys>spend tax payer money on a new vehicle or gadget of the week>doesn't do ANYTHING for the common man
>>724116439Joes goes to schools and do that talk about drugs and knowing half the battle.
>>724108672As opposed to authoritarian cucks?
>>724111139MAH ASS
>>724108879well written evil empires are not a perfectly cohesive, monolithic force unleashing all its power with laser precision at every problem that arises. infighting, incompetence, and limited resourses at a local level provide great challenge for an individual working inside such a system to achieve any goal.And in reversed dynamic you, a normal officer or a goon, will face some sort of chosen heroes, even if as a part of a larger entity.
>>724111139is gone with the blastwave still getting made? I haven't looked at it in years
>>724118327neither has the artist, don't worry
>>724120216in 20th cerntury and onwards they were bad guys in general, a pretty lame ones too.
>>724118228>well written evil empires are not a perfectly cohesive, monolithic force unleashing all its power with laser precision at every problem that arises. infighting, incompetence, and limited resourses at a local level provide great challenge for an individual working inside such a system to achieve any goal.I have seen exactly one videogame that depicts Nazi Germany as anything other than a monolithic cartoonish evil empire ala Star Wars.
>>724120216>>724120334They will forever be inferior to their predecessors in villainy, drip, and success.
>>724120216Those colonies were the bad guys. >no, were putting a stop to youre culture of raping children and ritual sacrifice, by gunpoint if needs be>"Thats our culture though. This is oppression! "Yea, it was. If the British didnt go limp wrist you wouldnt have Africa being a fragmented shithole where everyone kills eachother with machetes and practices cannibalism and places like India wouldnt worship filth.
what about these fellows
>>724110943>HURRR DURRR THE INDISPENSIBLE EVERYMANTired trope pushed by men who want collective meaning when they can't find it in real life
>>724120760>Those colonies were the bad guys.From the perspective of any civilized human being that doesn't lick the feet of brown people, sure. But you have to remember the prevailing self-styled "counter-culture" are corporation endorsed globalist champagne socialists that feign solidarity with the downtrodden to make themselves look good and feel better.>>724121289Reminder the CSA was fully within their rights to secede, and that secession wasn't ruled unconstitutional until 1869.
>>724121385You probably liked Concord.
>>724108672>breaks the mold
>>724110943I'm quite fond of the designs for MENACE's Terran Congressional Republic soldiers.
>>724120481>Star Warsgalactic empire was actually a pretty decent depiction of what it was meant to be in rouge one and andor.
>>724109516>duuhhhh if I can predict da story it badYeah we should really throw audiences for a loop sometimes and have the rebels be unceremoniously stamped out with no comeback. gg bad end
>>724121434>any side that advances the interests of white men are automatically the good guyYou people are exhausting.
>>724108879Not necessarily.
>>724121703I remain incredibly salty about Nu-Wars because they retconned Kyle Katarn out of existence.>>724121756I'm 35 years old and I watched "practice tolerance" become "bend the knee or else", so forgive me if I have absolutely no confidence in, or respect for, multiculturalist idealisms.
>>724121756>any side that advances the interests of white men are automatically the good guyno shitany white person who doesen't see it that way should be locked in some mental institution
>>724121903>>724121917Plenty of us here aren't white.
>>724121968Thank you for dodging the point being made by simply stating you are brown on an anonymous imageboard. It really inspires confidence in mutually respectful discussion, and definitely doesn't reinforce my views.
>>724122029The good guys have to advance both of our interests or they are not the good guys to us. This is a rational position.
>>724108672>left look goofy, but are always serious as fuck and commit war crimes without second thoughts about it.>left look serious, but often do silly jokes and have wholesome moments though the hellish ware they are facing, always trying to retain their humanity by not becoming like the monsters they are fighting.
>>724121434Yes, but those people dont even want to elevate a specific culture, they want to make a new thing based on a fiction that is "multicultrualism". Which is fucking nonsense, because it demands that people who walk around with heads on pikes because they think it pleases god be tolerated as neighbours by people that would be the target of those people because they had a disagreement over what they are allowed to eat on Wednesdays. Surprise; different cultures do not agree the same things are good and bad.You NEED to be able to say youre culture is better, otherwise you cant tell someone that their belief in bad things is actually bad, yes, killing children to make knucklebone dice so you can do a clairvoyance ritual to find your phone is bad, just because its part of your culture it does not mean its good, not all culture is good, and since they are not being condemned they are not going to change. Walk in the light or be fucking dragged to it, I say. The British being made the bad guys of history is one of the biggest tragedies of revisionist history, every nation has done fucked up shit, but Britian did more good for the world than bad when it actually enforced its culture. Like are places like France and Spain when they did it.
>>724121968You need to get with the program then. Our scraps have benefited everyone far more than your native cultures ever did, the indignity of knowing that we're better than you is a small price to pay.
>>724122087The idea of good guys is often a reductionism, and history generally has to bend in order for one group to be viewed as objectively good. The best stories portray a complex set of traits that put two groups of people at odds, QED: Homer's work regarding the war between Greece and Troy.Was it the average indigenous person's fault that their priest elites mass-sacrificed thousands to consecrate stacks of rocks put up to honor winged snakes? Not really. Was it the average Spaniard that was at fault for Cortez going completely apeshit on the Aztecs? Also not really.Morality, and viewing history through the lens of morality, is a dangerous game. You can see both positive and negative traits in any group if you have the whole story. Leaning toward the group that benefits you, or even benefits most people, is the utilitarian choice. That said, utilitarianism isn't the only way of approaching questions of ethics.
>>724122087interests of different peoples are incomatible, alas, so only one must prevail. i know as a brown it must be hard to admit to oneself, but be honest, what world would be a better place, one populated entirely by whites, or browns? that's why whites are the good guys, because if europeans win, would will be a utopia. if indians or africans or mutts or some other shade of brown wins, earth will be hell
>>724111139Conscript reportinghttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PJvPyH8WnMw
>>724122286>The British being made the bad guys of history is one of the biggest tragedies of revisionist history, every nation has done fucked up shit, but Britian did more good for the world than bad when it actually enforced its culture. Like are places like France and Spain when they did it.Sorry to say, but the British brought it on themselves. The world they created after the Treaty of Versailles and their zealous determination to crush Germany and prevent it from being a global power put them in that position, not only when the Germans kicked their asses in the 40s but also now that they're being reverse colonized by the people that hate them.>>724122680>Speaking of evil factions, does any cunt have that collage of evil corp logos?kek
>>724122291That's a funny narrative, but it's in the past and irrelevant, and it doesn't change the fact that no one will side with your betterment TODAY if your goal is exclusion.We win too, or you don't.
>>724108672new vegas is one of the few games out there where the '''good''' guys do have a better and more rad looking weapon than the bad guys (if you don't count the renmants enclave power armor)
>>724122775>That's a funny narrative, but it's in the past and irrelevant>no one will side with your betterment TODAY if your goal is exclusionYou say it's in the past, but the point of the exclusion is betterment. Nationalism is on the rise precisely because tolerance is failing, which is why exclusion is betterment.>We win too, or you don't.When you're the one threatening mutual destruction you might not be the good guy.
>>724122340>Leaning toward the group that benefits you, or even benefits most people, is the utilitarian choice. The utilitarian choice is the one with the best chance of long-term success. Do you think exclusion and total self-interest will win over cooperation and alliances? The arrogance of white nationalists is thinking the rise of the West happened in a vacuum, and that it's easily replicable for essentialist reasons. But almost every colonial campaign relied heavily on divide and conquer.The good guys to me today has to advance both my interests and yours. That is utilitarian. If they advance ONLY mines OR yours, then we will come into conflict eventually. One of us could lose, and that's not an ideal possibility for that one of us.>>724122382>interests of different peoples are incomatible, alas, so only one must prevail. This is true at the core, but false at the level we operate in with geopolitics. Otherwise alliances would have never existed.>but be honest, what world would be a better place, one populated entirely by whites, or browns? Moot point. I am brown, so I would not be around for a world populated solely by whites. I will never argue against my survival.
>>724122775half a billion whites is enough to take on the whole world with ease.
>>724108672Realistically, the rebels should have a more overtly edgy visual theme since they're the one's more often faced with shit situations where most of them are going to be laid out, giving them an excuse to have a more haphazard look and more directly embrace the idea that they're on a one way trip in the iconography they display.The evil empire should be shown as a well put together, highly disciplined machine, with little individuality and emotion beyond projecting strength and superiority as aggressively as possible without compromising on the uniformity and authority of their looks.
>>724123127>Do you think exclusion and total self-interest will win over cooperation and alliances?Always has. Cooperation and alliances are exactly why World War 1 happened and the entire planet tore itself to shreds.>But almost every colonial campaign relied heavily on divide and conquer.Every campaign does. Among military strategies it's one of the golden oldies. Goes all the way back to the Bronze Age, even Biblical events like Jericho.>The good guys to me today has to advance both my interests and yours. That is utilitarian. If they advance ONLY mines OR yours, then we will come into conflict eventually.They already are in conflict. Organizations and governments can't benefit everyone. It's just not possible.
>>724123103>Nationalism is on the rise Good for you. Healthy for your society. It won't solve your problems.>When you're the one threatening mutual destruction you might not be the good guy.On the contrary. Good is survival, it does not matter what as. Anyone who rejects my lineage's right to survive is automatically evil to me.
>>724123127best whites can agree with browns on is "this is my enthnostate, and this is yours"we just can't live inside one system
>>724121385>t. Foid
>>724114482nitrome games have surprisingly nice pixel art in them, seriously
>>724123291>Good for you. Healthy for your society.Healthier than the alternative, which is having the value of labor driven into the ground and international corporations lobbying against every single aspect of my existence as a citizen in my own country.>On the contrary. Good is survivalEffectively an appeal to moral subjectivism, and some cultures would vehemently deny that is the case. "Remember the Alamo."
>>724123165Very false, given that it took 500 years of several empires with shared values to slowly divide and conquer the rest of the world which lasted only for 200 years after. Also>the war will be WHITE BLOC vs the BROWN HORDEChildish understanding of how geopolitics work.>>724123259Alliances are older than WW1. Alliances are the counterbalance to divide and conquer. If you reject us for who we are, we will find someone who won't. Then you won't win. That's not good for you. I don't want your collapse, but I will put myself first. >Organizations and governments can't benefit everyone. Alliances and agreements can and have. Just because you live in an age where your organizations don't serve your interests doesn't define human history.>>724123330>best whites can agree with browns on is "this is my enthnostate, and this is yours" Very few of us have ethnostates, you just choose not to admit it. "Whites don't get to live alone" is a false claim.
>>724122764>when the Germans kicked their asses in the 40s >Uneducated midwit wehraboo
>>724123127You see my brown friend, in a world completely dominated by white people, you would be allowed to exist, in a world dominated by your people, whites would not. You can have your ethnostate, and we can have ours, the world should be a place where if you go to a country it is mostly inhabited by the people of that land and its culture and language and customs etc, and we respect eachothers ways when we interact in those places without half the population burning the countries flag and speaking a foreing language denouncing their host nation.If brown people fixed their countries you would understand the issue. Noone is flooding to your country and upsetting social cohesion via their foreign beliefs expecting to be accomodated wherever they happen to land. White people use to do that, it was called colonialism, we saw this was bad for YOU and stopped, we wanted you to be your own place again, and all you did was want to leave.
>>724123760>Alliances are older than WW1. Alliances are the counterbalance to divide and conquer. If you reject us for who we are, we will find someone who won't. Then you won't win. That's not good for you. I don't want your collapse, but I will put myself first.See how that turned out for Germany, who got dragged into a global war thanks to some Serbian fuckwits that just had to assassinate an Archduke. Then they got stuck with the entire war's worth of debts by the French, stripped of their colonies and 14% of their territory, and subjected to a highly corrupt system of governance that was inevitably overthrown by the NSDAP.>>724123814What fucking planet do you live on?
The worst thing is we don't even get to play as the fun rebels. It's wimp pussy bitch progressive at worst and neutered and milquetoast bland at best. And this isn't sand-biased cheeki breeki insurgents are great, balkans turn of the century guys are. You need a rakish charm and swagger and sorry but it's inherently a masculine bit. Women (and it's women - I can find Black african insurgents/rebels with swagger) are a lifeboat ethics situation where you can have 1 or 2, but the more you get the more the balance is broken and it upends and becomes a pregnant bitch with a machine gun like Wolfenstein and that demented one battle after another film.
>>724123609Rage against those agendas all you want, but we will not side with you against them if you cannot guarantee you will respect our existence.Also, heroic sacrifice is a social function meant to stabilise a society. It ultimately serves collective survival of a group. In the end all morality subjectively serves its own group. No one has ever had a moral code that intentionally benefitted more than their own people.>>724123830>in a world completely dominated by white people, you would be allowed to existThis is unprovable to me. Do you think you have some essential aspect of compassion in your genes that earns you trust? I think not.in a world dominated by your people, whites would not. I agree for some of us "browns," but it does not extend to all of us. Most of us desire to benefit off DISTANT mutual gains with your country, which by logic requires your prosperous survival.>Noone is flooding to your country and upsetting social cohesion via their foreign beliefs expecting to be accomodated wherever they happen to land.That's a very amusing claim. You have no idea how funny a lot of us would find it.>we saw this was bad for YOU and stoppedYou did not choose to end colonialism.>>724123873I'm not saying you can't make BAD alliances. I'm saying you don't win from making none. The Allied Powers would have lost if they were all separate in agenda.
>>724124028Command and Conquer Generals was amazing because the Global Liberation Force really were crazy terrorists
>>724108672Killzone does this but you're actually playing the oppressors.
>>724124213>Rage against those agendas all you want, but we will not side with you against them if you cannot guarantee you will respect our existence.Respect is earned. I see a handful of black influencers turning against the globalist machine, and I think to myself "thank god some black people have brains." I also appreciate the Divested movement. Most savagely racist people I've ever seen and they're all black women. Listen to their podcasts sometime it's amazing.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K9dtBIuBfN0>I'm not saying you can't make BAD alliances. I'm saying you don't win from making none. The Allied Powers would have lost if they were all separate in agenda.I dunno man, Switzerland made out like bandits over the last few centuries.
>>724123830Do chuds really always imagine everyone in the rest of the world cheering blacks and muslims stabbing and raping whites to death?
>>724108879That's just the Legion in FNV
>>724124268Was the PS4 Killzone any good?
>>724124425>Switzerland made out like bandits over the last few centuries.Then by all means, be like Switzerland. I have no problems when whites want to turn all their countries into Switzerlands.>the globalist machineOur presence in the world will outlast those agendas. Can you guarantee your commitment to coexistence will? I have no interest in fighting your "globalists" if upon their defeat you will turn your guns on the rest of the world.
>>724118228That's basically the COG in Gears of War. You're playing as the evil fascist empire on it's last legs with dwindling resources thst is on the verge of completely collapsing.
>>724124748>evil fascist empire(You)
>NOOOO YOU NEED TO LET US BURN THIS WIDOW ALIVE ITS OUR CULTURE!
>>724124793>(You)Not that anon, but that's the plot, the cog is the last government on the planeth holding like 2/3 of humanity on fortress and stuff trying to hold back the swarm, so they go even more full facism outside the main games.
>>724124663>Our presence in the world will outlast those agendas. Can you guarantee your commitment to coexistence will? I have no interest in fighting your "globalists" if upon their defeat you will turn your guns on the rest of the world.Does it really matter when the corporate globalist machine already has its guns turned on the rest of the world? It has no interest in benefiting anything but itself and holds the second world and third world at gunpoint while importing wage slaves from both. The Middle East and Africa sure as fuck don't benefit from its existence, and get bombed regularly for profit.Assuming a nationalist west is a threat to anyone who isn't white while ignoring the fact that western corporatists already exploit and destroy everything they touch is a terrible mistake. Practitioners of Friedmanian economics would kill and enslave us all if they had the chance, regardless of color or creed.
>>724124663gonna be honest brownanon, whatevee your country is doesn't sound like the one we talk about trying to destroy the west. it sounds good because you say other browns try to move in and it sounds irrelevant because I can't think of it. I think you shouldn't worry about us. let us kill our leftists and brown invaders and we won't mess with you.
>>724124964>Trying to save the last dregs of humanity from being wiped out by banding them together is evilAlso>Outside the gamesNon-canon.
>>724124964>>724125191Halo is also this way, the UNSC are extremely oppressive and the SPARTANs were designed first and foremost as government deathsquads under the control of the Office of Naval Intelligence.
>>724125072Your first paragraph belies that you still value the idea of a common enemy which proves my point.>Assuming a nationalist west is a threat to anyone who isn't white while ignoring the fact that western corporatists already exploit and destroy everything they touch is a terrible mistake.No, it's not. We in the rest of the world have to make constant calculations whether siding with your globalists or nationalists will guarantee our survival and prosperity more. So far the nationalists don't have a good foundation, despite the claims of anons here.I'm not trying to call you evil, I'm trying to tell you what the narrative out here is. People I know here BOTH lament how colonial whites are evil AND laugh at why dumb whites don't take action against brown people's hatred in their own countries. Logically it follows too that they can't support whites taking said action if they can't be reassured they won't become colonial whites in mindset again, even if the power can't be replicated again.>>724125135That sounds VERY reasonable anon, but as long as your nationalists have people who want to nuke the rest of the world "just in case", we cannot help you.
>>724108672The bad guys can be lame too.
>>724125191The civilian population absolutely despises the military in those games. The COG nuked their entire planet trying to deal with the threat and killed a huge amount of the population in the process.
>>724124213>This is unprovable to me.Its the culture. White people even with differing cultures will get along with eachother even when they are from very different cultures. Put two middle eastern people from different countries there in the same room, do you think they would get along? Because white people will, even places like Ireland and England wont start throwing shoes at eachother once they hear which border they sit behind.>That's a very amusing claim.Are they other browns? What brown country are white people fleeing to in numbers that brown people are fleeing what white countries that I havent heard of>You did not choose to end colonialism.Any country that asks for independence since America was founded, gets it via a vote, not war. If you want out, vote. Its peaceful and assures that is not just some warlord running in to take things over, this was learned by what happened in Africa, just giving shit over to people who didnt actually stand up and ask for it has them saying "but your were running things just fine wtf I didnt want to be run by Cootoh Mabooney the guy that ate my dads fingers, he doesnt even know how to govern a town let alone a countr-oh the economy just collapsed and theres no running water" . Because reminder, Africa did have running water across the country when the Europeans were colonising it, it was all defunct in a generation because the warlords that got their freedom decided to uproot it all as artifacts of colonialism, and didnt replace any of it.>>724124487Not hate, just never accepted.
>>724125874>retards upset life is hard in a world where literal dino-men are trying to kill everyone
>>724111028Heh, the suits should cut you a Bonus Check.(God I miss PS2)
>>724125814Whoops wrong pic.
>>724125523>We in the rest of the world have to make constant calculations whether siding with your globalists or nationalists will guarantee our survival and prosperity more. So far the nationalists don't have a good foundation, despite the claims of anons here.Just have a gander at the clusterfuck that is our government system and the elections themselves. Orange Man won the popular vote despite being called fascist, racist, and every other Bad Guy term in the book for nearly a decade. Whether he actually is any of those things is irrelevant. That demonstrates a distinct hatred for the on-going status quo of global corporatism. There is no better foundation. Whitey is not going quietly into the dark.>Logically it follows too that they can't support whites taking said action if they can't be reassured they won't become colonial whites in mindset again, even if the power can't be replicated again.Therein lies the issue: The colonialism is divorced from ethnicity now and stands as a self-sustaining machine, no longer limited to whites or even the west. China is already starting to squeeze the African nations that made deals with them in the 2010s. You know all the memes that came out of Empire of Dust, the documentary of a Chinese contractor trying to build roads in Africa? The bills for that work are coming due, and it's not going to be pretty.
>>724122764The fact that the SCP one isn't even a joke anymore makes me sad.
>>724126084
I fucking love these dipshits.
>>724111139might be the most powerful mook of all time, at least in 40k
>>724126526reminder this poor fuck ended up gibbering to himself in a padded cell after all was said and done, Lovecraft protagonist style
>>724125958Yeah I would hate them, the COG's only solution was to nuke their own cities and when every plan failed the goverment's last resort was to bail from the war and hide politicians and rich people in a secret island while the rest of humanity could get fucked, and even the army became splintered in different outposts, every soldier wanted to skin the president by the end of the war.
>>724121595Yeah, Gears too
>>724108672in a game i’m working on the two biggest factions are a stratified theocratic fantasy monster empire, and the combined civilized races of man, dwarf, and elfthe pc is a ragetard high ranking religious enforcer who is also a koboldyes the game is furshit
>>724108672>plucky underdog protagonists (they're LGBT btw)
>>724125937>Its the culture. White people even with differing cultures will get along with eachother even when they are from very different cultures. You aren't essentially that way. It was the combined efforts of a thousand years of civilization-building, during most of which you were not, not even to each other. You don't have some intrinsic genetic or spiritual quality that makes you more benevolent. You have a good superculture that you built, that has a lifespan.>Put two middle eastern people from different countries there in the same room, do you think they would get along?Some do, some don't. Generalizing is where strategies fail.>Are they other browns?Yes they are. We have problem-causing white migrants too, but they come in hundreds, not tens of thousands. And even our brown migrants are basically pacifists compared to what goes on in africa or the middle east.>Any country that asks for independence since America was founded, gets it via a vote, not war.The vote is "granted" by the authority when their hold is no more. It's a formal and diplomatic form of cope. Do you think the Brits gave HK its freedom, or did they no longer have a navy that could tell China no?
>>724108672I wish to be the faceless, nameless goon.
>>724126621that happens with almost all Imperial Guard that face Chaos if they survive their tour of duty, Abnett wrote a good little short story about just that called "Pestilence"
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>>724126253>Orange Man won the popular voteThat's a good example of why your claims fail. Mr Isolationism has spent his time in office interfering with the rest of the world to no end. He supports the argument we in the rest of the world cannot support white interests without being betrayed.>China is already starting to squeeze the African nations that made deals with them in the 2010s. China is an unparalleled example of the paranoia we are all forced to have. They play geopolitics like a game to gain as much power as possible because they cannot trust the west not to try and destroy them. Even a failed attempt would cause untold destruction.I'm not saying they are right, but I'm saying your nationalists don't do a good job of inspiring confidence we won't have to go to war with you.
>>724127063Hell yeah, I LOVE Super Facism!
Where's all the games where a helmeted faceless mook rises above his station to kill everything?Doom and Marathon can't be the only ones I can think of right?
>>724127059You know it's weird, there's Imperial mooks that have risen to the top and become legendary but very few mooks that actually ended up falling to Chaos and succeeding. I feel like that's something GW has neglected. Chaos Space Marines always seem to be the cream of the crop, but there's very few if any Lost & Damned officers that match or surpass them.>>724127306I was so fucking upset that the Division 2 dropped all the aspects of being a shady government deathsquad member bringing order at gunpoint. It gave the first game a certain kind of gravity that was completely lost in its sequel. The sequel even shit on the idea a little bit too.
>whitey wants to kill all of the world and take it for themselves>"no we just want sensible border control and sane values pls I swear help us against the jews pls pls"
>>724127415yes, and?
>>724127415>whitey wants to kill all of the world and take it for themselvesFunny how the rest of the world is still very much alive and is for some reason full of roads, hospitals, schools, and other infrastructure they never had before whitey showed up.
>>724127353Halo 3 ODST
>>724116426He's still Venture's bodyguard even without the ORB in question. If you come onto the compound in a dumbass supervillain outfit, he's gonna kill the shit out of you.
>>724110943>Uses the ugliest enclave armor from fallout NVgod damn that thing is hideous
>>724127415Obviously hyperbolic but yes, that's unfortunately how most of the world sees the west.>>724127635You cannot win the fight against globalism alone, with white civilization alone. It's very endearing that you believe it, but it's not how the world works. If you cannot agree to coexisting with those of us that don't hate you, we cannot help your civilization. It would seem like guaranteeing our demise. A very simple concept.
>>724127676>"w-we totally built all that for you because our god told us to be nice and niceness is in our blood!">"pls pls pls help us rule the world again we promise it will be like before we won't even kill any of you really!"
>>724127719True enough, but keep in mind Rusty was mostly a meme to the rest of the world. After Monarch got framed the villain assigned to Venture by the Guild was a washed up triple agent. Guy was very much a softball target despite being assigned one of OSI's best.
>>724108672Something I've always found kinda hilarious, stories always have the bad guys capture the good guys, let them live, try to recruit them, ect. Meanwhile the second the good guys get a victory the bad guy is killed.Really makes you wonder who's really the bad guy here.
>>724127874i will try to save my ship, if i can't i will go down with it, beats the alternative
>>724108672Th only time you're allowed to be the Big Bad Empire fighting the scrappy underdog rebels
>>724127994Anon I've got Shawnee blood, I'm very well aware of the fucked up shit that was done. Keep in mind my ancestors were forced into reeducation camps and outright killed well into the 20th century, even after America decided to fight a war that emancipated slaves, and were later relied upon as a living cypher for use against the Germans.That doesn't change the fact that, rather than living in a longhouse freezing to death in the winter or getting massacred by the Iroquois, I'm sitting in front of a computer with an electric heater behind me shitposting on the internet. Get some perspective.
>>724128180You ever wonder why people have such a boner for Vietnam but you can count the number of games set in the Korean War on one hand?
>>724128376South Korea (a huge market for video games) used to ban video games that portrayed North Koreans in an excessively negative light (for fear of offending them and giving them a pretense to chimpout).Also the Korean War is basically WWII + Jets aesthetically speaking, it's not like Vietnam where there's a clear visual difference between the two conflicts
>>724128546I love how many articles there are on the internet trying to answer the question of why Confederate flags were flown in American wars of the 20th century. The fact anyone needs this explained to them when they've already been through public school history classes really demonstrates how fucking pathetic our education system is. They legit can't even process that the Civil War was a brother war fought on dubious legal ground and even Jefferson Davis was never found guilty of treason.
>>724128128And many can help you save your ship if you can guarantee you don't fire on theirs after it happens.>>724128278Not him, but most of us I'm speaking for are genuinely not bothered by the past. I for one am not an essentialist. The imperialist white man of the 19th century is not the nationalist white man of today. It is the nationalist white man of today, alone, that we do not trust.
>>724128927My personal favorite
>>724129308>It is the nationalist white man of today, alone, that we do not trust.A stark irony then, since the nationalist and allegedly "white supremacist" movement of today is brimming with those of mixed race.>>724129397>My personal favoriteI can see why.
>>724129521The performative ones, sure. But that's not the actual number limit of politically effective white nationalists. As I said, if you support white interests first, even subconsciously and without thinking of your self as a neo-nazi, you are a white nationalist.
>>724129521>A stark irony then, since the nationalist and allegedly "white supremacist" movement of today is brimming with those of mixed race.Don't look up the ethnic composition of the Khmer Rouge (most of them were half-Vietnamese/Chinese mutts genociding anyone they deemed to not be racially pure Khmer or simply for wearing glasses.
>>724118327Update once or twice a year (if lucky) please understand.
>>724112993Is good
>>724129679>As I said, if you support white interests first, even subconsciously and without thinking of your self as a neo-nazi, you are a white nationalist.Therein lies a couple of questions:1) What is a white interest?If I were to say that the majority of people should be in control and that the government exists to serve the majority of people is that not Democracy? If I attach the idea that white people are majority it is now, by definition, white supremacist.>2) What is a neo-nazi?If I were to define myself I would say I am most closely aligned to antifederalists of the early United States. The federal government is too powerful, has too much ability to supersede its constituent states, and that the current trajectory of our country began when the American Civil War concluded with martial law and forced rewriting of state constitutions. Somehow, despite being an advocate for small compartmentalized governments, this makes me a fascist neo-nazi slavery apologist. Try and hash that shit out.
>>724121968>Plenty of us here aren't white.We know because the quality of the board suffers because of it.
>>724129717I really should look closer into Cambodia in general. I know woefully little about it.
>>724130032>What is a white interest? The continued prosperity, safety, and happiness of white people coupled with self-sustaining values and capability?>Somehow, despite being an advocate for small compartmentalized governments, this makes me a fascist neo-nazi slavery apologist.You are not a fascist neo-nazi slavery apologist for advocating small government. You are a potential threat to people in brown countries because you are a potential supporter of political movements whose leaders cannot be guaranteed to not engage in unchecked violent interventionism abroad.EVEN if it's not your intention, if you back leaders who then turn out to harm us, we have no cause to support you. We logically cannot. Why would we?
>>724108879>counterinsurgency is easyRETARD
>>724108879>play as part of the big powerful empire >said empire is actually collapsing from the inside and you are tasked to tie any loose ends in a futile attempt to fix shit up>you actually can't fix shit up, just prolong themCould be kino
>>724108879What about fable 3 thoughbeit
>>724118327nah it ended
>>724108879Playing as a powerful empire crippled by inefficiencies where you can get a tactical nuke in a heartbeat but all of your weapons are hand-customized pea shooters sounds amazingSource: I just described Helldivers 2.
>>724130840Already exists
>>724130547>EVEN if it's not your intention, if you back leaders who then turn out to harm us, we have no cause to support you. We logically cannot. Why would we?Well the current condition of the federal United States government is as imperialistic as it's always been, and I certainly haven't seen any political figure do much more than pay lip service to the rest of the world's plight while flippantly bombing them anyway. The status quo of federal overreach is far more dangerous to non-white nations than any American nationalist movement that touts Constitutional values as its motivation.Therein lies the problem: The longer it takes for this global corporatist system to wither and die the wider the ethnocultural divide becomes. If the naive patriotism dies it's replaced by senseless hatred.
>>724130994The divide isn't based on delusion. There are white nationalists who do make calls for a global race war, and they are present in many of your political blocs that aren't white nationalist.The brown world at large cannot side with those blocs against corporate globalists. It's narratively and diplomatically impossible. How can any leader do it without appearing as if they hate their own country?
>>724108879It could be a good set up for a game where you have to gain political power to gain a hold on internal conflict within the empire or something like that. Mid game is when you finally beat out your competition and become the right hand of the emperor where your word carries weight. Real game starts here as anything can happen.
>>724131192>There are white nationalists who do make calls for a global race war, and they are present in many of your political blocs that aren't white nationalist.From their digital devices manufactured in China and Bangladesh, using metals mined in Ghana. They're well outside the Overton Window, but it inches closer to them every day as long as things continue in the current direction.>It's narratively and diplomatically impossible. How can any leader do it without appearing as if they hate their own country?By recognizing that the entire point of nationalism is for a nation and its people to be synonymous. How many hate crimes against hispanics are you seeing while ICE ejects immigrants? Not many. If that problem had been left to fester any longer things might be a lot worse.
>>724131693The Forever Winter.png
>>724131549I am asking this genuinely - IF you were a brown leader of a brown country, how would you argue to your people and your fellow elite circles, that it is in the interest of the country to support whites against their globalist governments?
>>724131913The same way African nations sell the idea of debt slavery to China: Say they're against your colonizers, betting on the fact you'll be out of office and long gone before it becomes a problem.
>>724132138How would that work? What's the common enemy? China? Most of the world considers China the last bastion for sovereignty and prosperity against globalism and neocolonialism, not an example of it.The globalists themselves? They espouse tolerance, growth. The less-ideal cultural influence is seen as easily fended off, like Muslim countries do against LGBT. They're not seen as a threat.How is the brown leader, going to convince the country to align with people like you - the "pro-liberty" whites? What does the brown country have to gain?
>>724129308>And many can help you save your ship if you can guarantee you don't fire on theirs after it happens. why do you think we need your help?
>>724132534>Most of the world considers China the last bastion for sovereignty and prosperity against globalism and neocolonialism, not an example of it.I guess most of the world ignored the annexation of Tibet and East Turkestan, which isn't surprising. China is just as much a violent imperialist power as anyone else.>They espouse tolerance, growth. The less-ideal cultural influence is seen as easily fended off, like Muslim countries do against LGBTTheir idea of growth is concrete cancer. Increased profit and GDP at the cost of literally everything else, a Faustian bargain in all but name. Consider for a moment the plight of Afghanistan, where the installed police of the US's puppet government were caught prostituting young boys and the military was told not to do anything about it. Fast forward, now the Taliban are in control again and the sabre rattling continues.>What does the brown country have to gain?Corpocolonialism remains long after actual colonial governments are long gone. It's brown countries that get exploited and paid pennies for manufacturing a product to be sold at a 5000% mark up. Their governments cozying up to suited overlords and sipping cocktails knowing they'll be lounging in the Maldives while their people are starving. But hey, I guess that's all fine and dandy as long as the system that supports them puts rainbows on their logos and donates to political advocacy groups that'd never give actual brown people in other countries a second glance.
>>724132687If you genuinely hearts of hearts think you can achieve your goals with fellow nationalists of the west and topple the globalists and kick out all the browns you don't like, ALL on your own, WITHOUT any of us, then this discussion serves no purpose.Godspeed, good luck with your problems, if you try to kill us out here we will fight back, hope you'll be around in 100 years, etc.The premise of my point is that many of us CAN and WILL help you against globalism, without demanding free migration to your countries, if we can TRUST your leaders not to send ships and lob bombs at us. It's that simple.
>>724108672What about a game where you play as the scrappy underdog empire then?>Set in what used to be a kingdom that has fallen into chaos and rebellion>Brutal insurgent/bandit regimes pretty much rule the country, terrorizing the population and immediately destroying any attempt to organize proper governments or militias to resist.>You start out as the leader of a town’s militia that actually manages to beat back the insurgents who come to sack the town, thanks to your leadership>Tutorial has you fight rebels out of some surrounding towns as your reputation and power at home grow>At the end of the tutorial your loyal troops name you emperor>But you only own like 5 towns, time to bring order to this country and live up to the imperial title you’ve been givenYou could even have a bunch of unique insurgent factions to deal with in different parts of the map.
>>724132687>why do you think we need your help?NTA, but where do you think the suits will flee when they get ejected from here? Their brown colonies, where they will subjugate the locals and use them against us.
>>724132923>What about a game where you play as the scrappy underdog empire then?Soon.
>>724123121What about the yellow guys?
>>724116040cartoon Cobra is an army for Cobra-La, fuck those guys
>>724132923Pathfinder: KingmakerHaters will tell you the kingdom management sucks ass but they just can't plan ahead and manage their time (which is very valuable and limited when you're king of a country under siege naturally)
>>724132881>I guess most of the world ignored the annexation of Tibet and East Turkestan, which isn't surprising. China is just as much a violent imperialist power as anyone else. No one out here believes this. To them, China is a lesser evil, if an evil at all. Tibet and East Turkestan were last century. Missiles are not fired on Taiwan yet. Some white people seemingly calling for the death of all brown people in the world are now. That's enough for many people out here to say "alright then, if that's your attitude, then may you go out in misery.">Corpocolonialism remains long after actual colonial governments are long gone.Interesting narrative. I like the idea of trying to use this, but most of the people I speak to currently cannot differentiate white nationalists from white globalists. Here, you are all considered one big, hypocritical, schizophrenic bloc. Maybe you need to do something to look more like a public, opposing faction. Alright. Let's say it works. A whole chain of brown countries choose to oppose migration to the west, and sanctions all globalist corporations, funding your pro-liberty guys from afar.How do you guarantee the winning force is your pro-liberty one? That the ones that want to nuke the rest of the world, don't just knock you off like the Bolsheviks did the other Reds in Russia?
>>724133494>Tibet and East Turkestan were last centuryAnd yet the latter nation is subjected to conditions and practices that fit the UN definition of genocide. Nobody cares what China does to Uyghers, I guess.>That's enough for many people out here to say "alright then, if that's your attitude, then may you go out in misery."It's your funeral. When the powers that be are done with us you're next.>Here, you are all considered one big, hypocritical, schizophrenic bloc. Maybe you need to do something to look more like a public, opposing faction.Not an easy task, especially since socialism has been appropriated by the very same people that lick the boots of corporations so long as they signal support for LGBT and BLM. One play is to blame Jews, whom seem to bounce between race identities as it suits them, but that's an even harder sell than anti-globalism. It looks schizophrenic because it IS schizophrenic. There are many layers of propaganda at work.>How do you guarantee the winning force is your pro-liberty one?That's largely dependent on how quickly it happens. People over here still have faith in liberty, somehow, but it's slowly eroding under the weight of hypocrisy and political radicalism. When things get bad enough idealisms are discarded as a matter of survival. We haven't hit 1933 conditions yet, but we're getting there.
>>724133928As I said, the rest of the people out here cannot with certainty trust the majority of people currently aligned with you. So we return to my original point, the brown world cannot see white interest groups as the good guys, and thus cannot be convinced to ally with said groups.But from the conversation I trust your individual stance at least. I do not think you would support wasting time and resources and lives bothering the rest of the world once you get your government of choice.If more people out here knew there were sides with your position in your countries, they would be inclined to lean harder against globalism. That was my original point, and it stands.
>>724134878That's fair, but as a closing point I'll point to the Unite the Kingdom march in London last month. People made fun of the nationalist guys stopping to buy Afghan and Indian food during the demonstration, about how hypocritical they are for supporting immigrant street vendors. Their worldview does not allow them to realize these people don't HATE immigrants for being brown. They're angry about immigration policies and the fact they're being treated as second class citizens and their kids getting stabbed to death while the police do jack shit about it. If they continue to be subjected to these conditions, and both their government AND the brown people continue to turn a blind eye, they will inevitably end up hostile to both.
>>724135360P.S. I should have structured this post better, I switch "they" and "their" from one subject to the other without setting it up properly. It's 4am I'm tired. Need sleep.
Ladies, you're both ugly.
>>724121385Drink your wine, cuddle with your cats and rant about men and how they can't man up, you childless, 40 year old corporate slave.
>>724127274>>724127274Dont argue with this guy, let the white race dissapear and let him find out what happens
>>724108672It's funny but Battlefront has this as well as its reverse. The Storm Troopers are so much cooler than the rebels and their dumb cone hats to the point where I never play as the rebels. But the clones are cooler than the droids, only slightly though they're both cool
>>724132923>>724121861
>>724112792Why is an Imperial Officer using an airsoft pistol from the 19th century? I thought Star Wars happened a long, long time ago
>>724110943Love the Known Universe Infantryman, he looks like an angry ungabunga caveman about to throw rocks
>>724108672>you can't make a cool rebel facti-
>>724108879>empire can crush rebels at any time>never sends more at rebels than they can handleStomping everybody in stellaris is fun.
>>724108879The main fun of playing the evil empire is typically dealing with internal troubles/taking over. >>724112792SWTOR has a lot of problems but getting to play as a light side Sith and spending the entire game idiot wrangling everybody else or throwing the sith philosopy back in their face is so much fun.
>>724131792that game is so gay and retarded and bad
>>724120760>no, were putting a stop to youre culture of raping children and ritual sacrifice, by gunpoint if needs beThat literlaly just is british culture.
>>724121756White automatically means evil. It's not a real identity, simply a different way of saying evil.
>>724139982One path to freedom.
>>724130927>that blue guy killed himself over nothingAw man.
>>724122286>. The British being made the bad guys of history is one of the biggest tragedies of revisionist historyNo, that's still Germany. The British largely got away with everything at the end by virtue of not being Germany. Even though the harm they caused was greater overall, they weren't as batshit as the Nazis or as self destructively stupid as the Kaiser. Otherwise, for literally every continent on the planet they are the villains. >Europe: Basically went out of their way to ensure a unified Europe wasn't able to avoid being swallowed up by America and Russia.>Asia: Colonizers that destroyed countries and caused massive famines.>South America: Basically did what the Americans do now.>Africa: See above. Even places like Egypt that were decently treated fucking hate them with a passion nowadays. >North America: Independence war means the British empire are cursed to be viewed as a bunch of monarchist autocrats until the end of time. >Oceania: Created Australia.
>>724123330Best whites can agree on is sharing a mass grave. A white ehtnostate is a existential threat to the rest of humanity.
>>724130927What are the implications of this? Would keep the discovery to themselves or spread it among both teams? If so what would they do.Will they be collectively happy and glad they found a way out or will they lash out against the civilization that didn't notice or outright ignored them?
>>724126621He actually ended up becoming the Tau leader in Dark Crusade. Who is genuinly kind of awesome as well even if he canonically lost.
>>724131792From the trailer i first thought it was gonna be a gritty team deathmatch game with body horror.Turns out its another loot and scoot extraction shooter.They coulda had gold.
>>724125937>White people even with differing cultures will get along with eachother even when they are from very different culturesRead a history book, you fucking inane subhuman. Europeans have started quasi genocidal wars over minor tax disagreements.
>>724128546>used to ban video games that portrayed North Koreans in an excessively negative lightHow would they even know, especially back 20+years ago.
>>724140420Shas'o isn't Shas'la anon, im sorry.
>>724110508Only in the first 3. After that you’re anglo operators every time. Bothered me in killzone 2 also, honestly. Mw 1 and 2 best parts were the army grunt levels.
>>724140768I didn't like the commando missions, pretty gay desu.
>>724128927Should be obvious why people feels extremely negatively over the flag for the side that fought for chattel slavery.
>>724128927Anon 2/3 of american children today are illiterate.
>playing as the big powerful empire>completely crush the rebel forces effortlessly in the tutorial>game ends after 10 minutes because everything is fine and there is no conflict>final cutscene is the player character growing old doing a desk job for 60 years before they die of a burst appendixVGHWHY CAN'T THE GOOD GUYS WIN FOR ONCE
>>724141472>Should be obvious why people feels extremely negatively over the flag for the side that fought for chattel slavery.See that right there? That's willful ignorance toward things you don't like, and it's a fatal reflex.
>>724121968unfortunately. explains the generally low quality of posts on this faggot ass board
>>724108807millennial writing
>>724140198I legitimately can't comprehend how Generals got to the shelves in 2002
>>724110005>Not an argument, the player always wins usually anyway.>Planescape: Torment>Legacy of Kain: Soul Reaver (Series)>Expedition 33>Disco Elysium>Blood Omen (Series)There are exceptions.
>>724108807Both sides are evil actually
>>724127020Congratulations, you already are.
>>724108672uhhh... you just lack media literacy... CHUD
>>724108879There is not a single where playing as the empire isn't kino
nameless grunts is one of my favorite video game tropes please let me play as them
>>724130958To be fair in Attila you can save the empire, it's just very painful and involves abandoning a bunch of territories, though you can always just take them back once things get better.
>>724127994Give all the shit we made you back then I suppose?It's clearly empowered by white devil magic and therefore tainted.Take off the seat belt, it's the white mans way of keeping you down.Go through the front window and be free brother.
>>724108672Warhammer 40k avoids this by having the good guy army dress like the bad guy army
>>724133201Nobody expects them.
>>724108879>BECAUSE IT JUST WOULDNT OK
>>724109967On a technical level yes since it's about mega nations going to war, but you could still kind of count it since all the good guys constantly go on about how they struggle due to the Black Hole being cartoon villains.
Thankfully the Good Guys™ always win.
>>724108672not a problem in nortubel
>>724111139They massacred my boy.
>>724147537Running all recruit was such kino. Siege is so sovlless now
>>724144972name 2
>>724147570it's crazy how they have the shit Midas touch
>>724109516>please le subvert my expectations Uhhhhhhhhhhhhh no
>>724121861I mean, you're not really play as a powerful empire. Your enemy is called the Rebellion, but they are the uber powerful new and fascist empire on the block with an overwhelming fleet that sweeps each sector and the nigh-unbeatable Rebel Flagship waiting at the end. They're just "rebelling" against the decidedly smaller and more ragtag Galactic Federation.It's like if the US decided to "rebel" against a largely symbolic semi-governing body like the United Nations that doesn't even have actual control over its member countries.
>>724108879>Playing as a squad in the empire>Low resources given since the rebellion is almost nothing>Over time it gets stronger and more resources are given to you as it's viewed as a real threat>Final mission defending the capital>Ends off with a conflict right on the bunker the supreme leader is>You enter the bunker as a final defense>Realizing the leadership took their own lives way before the enemy got there, the only thing that remains is your pride>You get a choice, surrender and be viewed as war criminals or die in a blaze of glory
>>724109746Tyranny?
>>724110943It's such a shame that the Terran Space Marine is so much cooler than the Space Marines
>>724108879This is a non-issue and I have a perfect example of this. Avatar Frontiers of Pandora. Ignore for the sake of the discussion that it uses almost the entire ubislop open world formula. It is overall a good game, I liked it. BUT. It would have been more fun and way better in all aspects if the player could either choose to play as the smurfs or the humans. The gameplay would have been totally different and that would not only give you two unique game campaigns but it wouldn't even require their open world slop to be put in because it would have enough content this way. Hit two-three birds with one stone. Regardless, playing as the humans is better, they are for all purposes the evil side but they are not some SF ultra galactic empire akin to Star Wars's one for example. They don't have magic or weird brain powers. Guns and power suits alongside your machinery. You're not some prophecy child etc. There are many IPs that can do this right but atm the industry still needs to get rid of the cancer infesting it. Only then can normal games be made once again. Many old games did this well already.
>>724148065>blizzard faggotry ''cooler'' than 40kYeah no
>>724148248This reminded me that we never got a kino unatco path in dues ex.
>>724115139I think it's more interesting morally if your character is in a bad role fucking people over and you have to choose between trying to mitigate some of the damage your doing or just being cold and ruthlessly pragmatic.Better set up narratively than the usual RPG choice of being the good guy or a comically evil villain for zero gain.
>>724108672>Planetside 2
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>>724110943>interstellar marineman that brings me back
>>724121703>rouge one>rouge
>>724125364>SPARTANs were designed first and foremost as government deathsquads under the control of the Office of Naval Intelligence.Le super soldiers are made to ... le kill people???
>>724127063>RedditdiversIts fun but why does it always have to be ironic?
>>724144642I'm crying rn all I had to do was believe
>>724147570Recruit was genuinely a good pick on some maps for defence because he got two throwables/deployables rather than a gadget.
>>724149007I choose to view it as the irony being a shield against the atrocities of the war.
>>724108879It wouldn't necessarily work in the game format you're thinking of, but games can tell different stories with different gameplay.
>That time Gisnep ran a poll on twitter asking who people would rather be, the epic mixed race diverse LGBTBBQ rebels or the evil aryan First Order and the First Order was winning by so much they had to delete the poll
>>724125364>government deathsquadsGames for this feel?
>>724111139Helghast rifleman. Basically became the face of Killzone 2.
>>724149007The developers don't have the balls to be provocative, so they hide behind the le fascism bad gag instead of writing a real story.
>>724142050Name 2 stories written by millennials where both sides are the good guys. All you get are both sides are bad guys, or muh shades of grey. People are too cowardly to admit that good people can fight each other too.
>>724108879People love James Bond movies and I think that fits your description pretty well>>724140053Light side sith was a peak smug playthrough and I loved it
The brits have largely been a disaster for the world. At least France spread metric and driving on the correct side of the road.
>>724125364>SPARTANs were designed first and foremost as government deathsquadsWith children having been abducted and brainwashed into the program. I hate how 343 ruined the morally ambiguity of the SPARTAN program and let anyone join up, regardless of age.
>>724114678"Damn, it burns when i piss. Shoulda use da rubba.""Sand and water, sand and water. You know what you get when you mix sand and water?! You get mud!!!"
>>724141584No they're not...Are they?
>>724128927They are displaying that flag because they are racist southerns butthurt about their great great grandad losing the war.
>>724151629Product of the American education system everybody, all propaganda no understanding.
>forced to play as a gay ass gender neutral vampire instead of the good guys
>>724111139I love the aesthetic of having the gas mask connected to their backpacks
I remember playing this game and it stood out to me how I was being railroaded into joining a resistance against big bads that I HADN'T EVEN MET yet, I was just being told that they so bad and off I went to do resistance things
>>724128927>country founded on freedom>slavery
>>724152804>giving a shit about the plot in an early 2010s fps
>>724152727Anon that's clearly a frontpack
>>724153064Its a backpack, he's just wearing it the wrong way.
>>724112792TIE FighterYou even have to fight traitors to the empire. It's too bad you lose the TIE defender to do it and instead get the shit ass ugly missile boat. God I hate that thing.
>>724152807>country founded on freedomFreedom for its constituents, not for everyone. Cope with that however you want but nothing will ever change that.
>>724112993Star Wars prequels
>>724153167I doubt that game would even made under the current regime of Lucasarts. They're so lame and gay to portray the Empire in a positive light.
>>724110943>>724114642Mooks are love
Why are rebels the good guys?
>>724154373People tend to root for the underdog.
>>724154604Rebels irl tend to be retarded rapists.
>>724116131OOOOOOOOOOOOYE VEY
>>724154373They’re supposed to be the underdogs but that gets me thinking about what story showcases the rebels larping as the underdogs but are actually backed by a billion dollar organisation
>>724155392Final Fantasy 7
>>724154373They are fighting to restore Republic style government which is more suitable for a mutli-galaxy civilization instead of an autocratic galactic empire where a handful of magic space jews run everything.
>>724155593
>>724130798>counterinsurgency is easyit is, if you're not a pussy
>>724155778he lost
>>724155778Pic unrelated I assume?
>>724155778Please sign on the dotted line
>>724155803>>724155894>>724155943>t. polACKs, who's father is probably >>724155778you slavniggers got raped so hard the soviets could handle poland with kid gloves for the remainder of the century
>>724111139I love all three BF4 support boys
>>724155778DIRLEGANG
>>724155803Yeah but he had fun and that's what counts
>>724156062He operated in Ukraine you retard. He was in Poland only because the German army was folding under the Russian counteroffensive.
>>724156062>>724156289I get that you're being an edgy contrarian because it's the only way people pay attention to you, but Dirlewanger was so incompetent that his unit got BTFO whenever they faced anyone who actually fought back.
>>724156436*Belarus, actually. But the fact that the Red Army just sat outside Warsaw and let Dirlewanger mass rape people so the Soviet Union would have an easier time occupying Poland themselves is kinda funny.
>>724156529The incompetence makes it all the more funnier.
>>724156529obviously you can't rape an actual military, but there's a reason germany and japan didn't fight soviet/us occupation
>>724115363But I could never be a henchman. I am just a normal guy who is between the age of 18 and 30. A loner, and lacks ties to friends and family.
>>724155778In fact, counterinsurgency is unnecessary if you are not retarded
>>724108672Only bad guy mook loks cool in that image
>>724111139Rifleman
>>724109967Playing as a no-nonense competent officer in a evil empire full of villain cliches that is more trouble than it worth would be great.>You have the power hungry general that keep killing his own underlings for some stupid reason>you have the mad cientist that keeps doing shitty experiments with potential allies/servants>You have the dommy femme fatale that wants to seduce/torture everything and everyone for her pleasure>The burocratic corporate asshole that filters the empire resources for his own profit>Even the evil overlord that is kinda like Palpatine, letting all of this happen just because he likes to fuck with everyoneHaving all this alongside the rebels would be a fun game.After you deal with the rebellion,you say fuck it and take over the evil ass empire...and no redemption arc,you are just a evil ass empire but competent.
>>724156062>you slavniggers got raped so hard the soviets could handle poland with kid gloves for the remainder of the cent-ACK!
>>724110943I wish this included marines from Freespace, but maybe they are not that notable. Not counting this one cutscene they are just main menu background https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gcWhhsRGsAI
>>724154373It's just like real life
>>724154373Star Wars is popular.That's really kind of it.
>>724108879why do retards like you insist on sharing their opinions?
>>724121903>retconned Kyle Katarn out of existenceIt was Nu-Wars best decision since they cant ruin him anymore
>>724120481Incredible game
>>724151235>Shooting dudes >See big guy coming >"Mine's bigger! Hahaha!"
>>724154373Because they hate the American empire underneath all the celebration of materialism and liberal democracy. Stated versus revealed preference.
