What are your thoughts on it, /v/?
>>724116969Fake and gayI buy there first and then steam second. But I'm convinced as soon as Gabe dies Steam is gonna go right down the toilet.
>>724116969it makes pirating games very convenient
>>724117167This!
>>724116969I buy from them when I can, but most developers exclusively sell on Steam due to guys like >>724117167That's the issue with making a game DRM free. It makes pirating the game piss easy and that makes a lot of devs avoid putting their games on GOG.
>>724117547I've noticed some devs releasing on Steam first for like a year or two then putting it up on GoG. I've always wondered if this was probably related to that or maybe GoG has a stricter barrier to access.
>>724117547Honestly same. As autistic as it sounds, I am planning on getting an external SSD to back up my GOG library. Not sure what SSD to get though.
>>724116969It's good, I bought a lot of games on there. But until they start supporting Linux, they're not getting as much of my money as Valve is. I'd rather buy a game I plan to play on my Windows PC on GOG, and games I plan to play on my Steam Deck on Steam. If for whatever reason I want to play my GOG games on the SD I download through Heroic, but I shouldn't have to do that. I want achievements on GOG Galaxy.
I appreciate them for the ease of pirating their games, but I'd never spend a penny anywhere other than steam. my account is 21 years old and I'm not splitting my purchases.also fuck cdpr they are a bunch of faggots.
>>724116969I'd prefer to buy all my games on GOG but most games only come to Steam.
>>724117675aren't HDDs better for long term storage?
>>724117675I burn my offline GOG installers on DVDs. My GOG library is both digital and physical. So if my internet goes out for whatever reason, I still lots of vidya to enjoy. Can't do that with most Steam games.
>>724117839Really? Where's the info and confirmation on that?I did a google and the AI says HDD but you never know.
>>724117669>or maybe GoG has a stricter barrier to access.they do, to a massive degree
>>724118036honestly im just assuming it's the case, mainly because I have a bunch of external HDDs and none of them have failed one me yet. haven't used an external SSD
>>724118230I bought an SSD for literally everything and now I'm feeling like regretting my purchase to be honest.I want that stuff to last as long as my 12 year old USB that is somehow still going.
>>724116969It's good. I bought a lot of games I pirated on gog. I also pirated a lot of games I didn't buy thanks to them. They saved me a fuckton of money and sometimes it does feel good to buy a game knowing it won't do this dogshit.Seeing this error immediately made me start pirating again
>>724118296SSD is always bad for longterm media storage. HDD is tried and true unless it's seagate whom literally sold drives that fell into the actual sea once.
>>724116969I love GOG, I get the vast majority of my games from there now. Some faggot publishers will never, ever sell there so I still buy those games on Steam, but these days I use GOG for most of my purchases.>>724118296>I want that stuff to last as long as my 12 year old USB...won't it?I was under the impression that as long as you plug in your SSD like, twice a year, it should be extremely durable as well?
>>724116969There are good things about it>You get the game installer >they have some old ass but good game that steam doesn't have>Some games mostly older ones will work fine when they are from gog but are bugged as hell if it's steam version
>>724116969I don't always buy video games, but when I do, I buy them from gog.
>>724116969i pirate my games
>>724118383>HDD is tried and true unless it's seagateI'll avoid seagate then.What's a good brand of external HDDs to buy from?>>724118491I'm not sure at this point. I'm buying these things to back up my crap for a long time.
I currently don't see a single reason to use it instead of pirating or steam
>GOG mentioned>piratefags LITERALLY unable to shut the fuck up about being piratesIt's as if their life depended on it.
>>724117547most indie games on steam are DRM-free too, you can just copy the folder
>>724118875Most, but not all. I would rather get a guaranteed DRM free game with GOG.
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>>724118861What else are they gonna do? PLAY the games? LMAOOO>>724118743any non green driveWD blues are alright, hitachis last a long fucking time
>>724119115Thanks I'll try for a western digital one at the local shop then.
>>724118861and we will happily continue to make you seethe
>>724117913Why is data on a hard drive not considered physical but on a cartridge or disc it is?If there's no DRM at all there's no difference between playing from a hard drive or a disc
>>724119209Just make sure no drive you ever buy is a refurb or a green drive
>>724116969I like their preservation program.
>>724119315Needing to ask this is actually bait. Nobody should pay this post any mind.
>>724119115Not that guy but what's your experience with Toshiba drives?I've read they are good but their warranties seem kind of shit compared to similar products. I found that odd.
>>724118137Speaking from personal experience or did you just read up on it?
>>724119416So you can't answer why data on a ROM chip is physical but data on a flash drive isn't?
>>724119416because you don't have an actual answer
>>724119418I don't buy toshiba drives. I also use multiple drives to back up. I also use blu-rays too since they are quite reliable for storing my shit.Key note for cold storage shit is to sanity check it every so often (quarterly or yearly) and make sure they verify
>>724119315I just prefer DVDs. It's what I grew up with. It's just as simple as that.
>>724117669It's like releasing your movie to cinemas first before releasing to streaming and home video. You're trying to make the most amount of money during the launch window and then latter on you're looking for whatever.
I miss when they took H-games that Steam banned, now they do the same shitnow I don't really use them aside from buying old games for archiving (they release very few of them)
>>724119714They still take hgame steam banned but the publishers of those games are still pussies and censor the games. Meanwhile the chinks cracked the code YEARS agoThey straight up moonlight as anons and post uncensor patches in their community section.
>>724119359How's the WD My Passport 2TB USB Portable External Hard Drive?4tb should be enough for me.
>>724119615Cool.I'll look into blu-rays, that sounds like a good idea, I just never invested in a blu-ray drive, let alone one that can burn them.
>>724119786>Meanwhile the chinks cracked the code YEARS agoIt was the slavs who cracked that code years ago when patreon started cracking down on incest.
>>724119795They're really just 2.5 laptop drives slapped into an enclosure. If you get one get a double usb cord incase your pc is too weak for power delivery. It's very common for this to happen. I personally stick with 3.5 size but it can be fine.>>724119865Nah that shit is recent as fuck in comparison. Chinks been doing this for over a decade.
>>724119896Alright thanks anon!
>>724117913>>724117839It's always useful to burn some dvds for stuff as backups. Keeping a spindle in your closet takes up very little room and is just a nice extra option to have
>>724119946npremember to store that shit somewhere dust can't get. It's not that it'll kill it or anything but it's nice to open up a drive and get that old smell out of it to check it.
>>724119795I don't know if things have changed but when I looked years ago it was a lot more economical to buy a caddy and the largest but slowest internal drives I could.
>>724119981These are great unless you live in a high humidity area and have poor cleaning habits. They do very well otherwise. Disc rot is actually a sign of a household issue most people don't realize (or the disc came bad from a shady place)Most modern and even some old cds with multiple layers are not victims of this though.
>>724119981>8GB storage per discGames are like 100Gb each these days. You're going to need a LOT of stacks of dvds.
>>724120139For those huge ass games, I use Blu-rays.
>>724116969They haven't released an old game in a coon's age. Why did they waste everyone's time with that wish list crap.
>>724117913>>724119981>>724120139>>724120219Start hoarding quadruple-layer BDXLs>As of 2024, one of the primary pioneers of the Blu-ray disc, Sony, is winding down production of recordable Blu-ray discs in its plant in Tagajō, Japan. Sony plans to gradually cease its manufacturing of optical media, including recordable Blu-ray discs
>>724120279The whole thing is supposed to be a signal to publishers. "Look, this many people want to bring this game back and we're even willing to do the compatibility fixes if you can't be bothered, just let us republish it." Something like that.
>>724120279I dunno, I got some shit I wanted. Praying for god hand to get another cult video so people check it off on there too.
>>724120427I'm sure some third party company will start making off brand Blu-rays.
>>724117669If they bother to sell the game DRM-free on itch.io or some other store, it's the latter. Otherwise, the former.>>724120972The patents for vanilla Blu-ray will start expiring next year, if I'm not mistaken.>>724120279>July 11, 2025https://www.gog.com/en/news/check_out_these_2_additions_from_piko_interactive
>>724116969Where's Lionhead's The Movies and the old lord of the rings RTS games?
>>724116969I like to buy my games on gog first. One dealbreaker for me though is that if the game had steam workshop support then I just go to steam instead. Any other instance I usually try to get the game on gog then.
>>724120427It just doesn't make sense to use Blu-ray.HDD or even sometimes SSD are cheaper per gigabyte and are much more convenient and can be easily rewritten or resold.If you need lots of storage and don't care about convenience then you're entering the tape drive territory.Blu-ray stopped making any sense few years ago.
Still piratingWhy would you pay for games that are DRM free or cost money in 2025?If I spend $30 on a video game I won't be able to buy wings and pizza for dinner one nightYour sales are not my problem. I will continue pirating entertainment should not cost money.
>>724126486>even sometimes SSDSSDs fucking suck for archival, tho.>If you need lots of storage and don't care about convenience then you're entering the tape drive territory.Blu-ray drives are way, way cheaper than tape drives.
>>724116969Stopped buying from these fags when they started "preserving" shit with dedicated autist, slapping their own shitty patches on them and removing the options that allow enhancement and then begging for donosFuck gog. Its drm free but so is 90% of steam plus steam won't revoke your licenses for wrong thing
>>724126665I get it, you're deep into the sunk cost fallacy but HDD simply are better for archival today.
>>724116969Only faggot use gogSteam is love steam is life
>>724126772>but HDD simply are better for archival todayI didn't say it wasn't, you dense motherfucker.I just say that SSDs are fucking garbage for that purpose.And that tape drives are way out of the budget for anyone that isn't a major corpo.Blu-ray is the second best option.
>>724126610>Why would you pay for games that are DRM free or cost money in 2025?I like to support indie games that do unique things that are executed well. If there's no demo, I pirate it without a second thought and then buy if it was really good.Tons of games I pirated but never bought though, just didn't feel worth the money.>If I spend $30 on a video game I won't be able to buy wings and pizza for dinner one nightkek
>>724116969I get to pirate lots of games thanks to them, though that's how I discover several games otherwise I wouldn't bat an eye about, and when I like them enough I support the devs by buying the games on Steam.
>>724126486>HDDWeak to magnetism and physical shock>SSD Great for fast storage but ass for long-term storage you might want to access in 30 yearsA Blu-ray disc in cool and dry storage is better for long-term archival
>>724117913>Can't do that with most Steam games.You can do that with all Steam games actually, create a new Steam game folder, install a bunch of games, copy that folder to whatever storage, then if your internet goes out or whatever you can just copy it back and Steam will recognize the games
>>724126486Sounds like retard speak who doesn't archive. I bet you also get mad at people using 8's for archiving too.
>>724116969I get a bunch of free games from Amazon Prime for GOG but they almost all suck ass or I've already played them
>>724119786>post uncensor patches in their community sectionThis is a bannable offense on Steam now, in case you're not aware. You can't post links to H-patches neither on the community forums nor in the review sectionWhat was the point of censoring the games if people just scrolled down to reviews and downloaded the patch from the most upvoted review? Valve aren't idiots, hence this new policy (not really new, it started like 2 years ago). I reported a fuck ton of reviews linking R18 patches and they all got banned lmao
I wonder if we could see some niche Blu-ray PC physical releases in Japan. Of course, copy protections for optical media are no more, so they would either use Denuvo (successor of SecuROM), or just nothing.
>>724126879Food is more important to me.There is no way anyone can convince me that buying a game instead of pirating and spending it on food is a good deal.
>>724127174I don't give a fuck if it's bannable people will do it anyway. Steam has a literal game where you run around eating random ass office and construction workers with your giant dick and nutting them out into a fucking condom so I doubt they are targeting anything that isn't just illlegal in their host state.atf niggers do this often and cry wolf so I'm hard pressed to believe otherwise.
>>724127368Yes, there are adult games on Steam, but if you try to be sneaky and release your adult game as SFW + R18 patch, that age rating will be enforced and all these patches will be purged.
>>724116969Single player games get my money. their multiplayer services aren't populated enough, unfortuantely.
>>724117547If you look at actual DL count it's really low. Piracy is dead because people are now too retarded to pirate even without DRM. The real reason Steam is popular is because it's also seen as a social platform and more "legitimate" due to being THE vidya store. This is just how people function, they see games as a social thing not just a product.
>>724126849Nobody in bussiness is using blu ray for storage or archiving. If penny pinching businesses don't use them, maybe there's a good reason?The best you can argue for blu rays is that they have lower fixed costs which is meaningless once you start storing large amounts of data and if you store small amounts, why do you need cold storage? And how do you handle redundancy with blu rays? You can't outside of literal 1:1 mirror copies.
>>724128080>Nobody in bussiness is using blu ray for storage or archiving.I thought it was evident we're talking about regular users here.Any proper business, as "penny pinching" as it is, can probably afford tape drives.
>>724128080>>724128184I will take an L by saying that "major corpo" was an exaggeration.In any case, 5K USD is still out of budget for most people.If you can afford that initial investement, then tape is indeed cheaper. But most people cannot.
>>724127368What is this penis vore game you speak of?
>>724126610Not everyone is a faggot third worlder.This shouldn't be so hard to understand.
>>724128080>Nobody in bussiness is using blu ray for storage or archiving.Not all businesses are massive multi-nationals that can drop tape money on just keeping offline copies of their data. Bluray is fantastic for small amounts of data that you may need to keep for many years. Run off copies of data using nice cheap drives and very cheap media, take it home and stick it in the safe, mail it to a family member, pile them high in the back room...Cloud storage sucks as it's just another thing to pay and manage and the longer you use it the more those old backups start looking "purgeable" to keep the costs down. Not so with stacks of plastic discs.
>>724129451You didn't think I was actually gonna tell you the game so you can spam it here to the algo did you? Lol. You'll have to search penis vore a bunch of times on steam now. Have fun>>724127526And? Not my problems japs can't do it as smooth as the chinks can
>>724117547There are people who will always pirate, but they don't matter.Most people in the target audience are people will impulse buy in response to marketing or word of mouth, so piracy isn't a factor for this target audience unless a download link with significant public acceptance is just as prevalent as the ability to legitimately purchase the game.Piracy may even be a benefit, because more people are talking about it and more people are trying it.
If it IS on GOG, I buy it on GOG.
>>724116969>no games>slow>shitty launcher>not using the launcher is even slower and a worse process>>724119520NTA, but the Balatro guy was talking about how they curate based on what they want at the time. Aside from that, any secondary copy protection or multiplayer pretty much kills the chances of a game appearing on GOG.
>>724117547Steam DRM might as well not exist, I don't think they updated it in over a decade, you just put the same copypasted cracked file everytime and it works. There's even programs that do this for you automatically. If you're not using any additional DRM methods other than Steam's then you might as well put your game on GOG for some goodwill, the only difference pirates will feel is having to download the game folder instead of an installer for it (and if they want an installer they can just wait for fatfuck to repack it)
Basically, I started using gog 3 weeks ago. And it is literally curing me of my lost of passion for video games
>>724116969It's the only place where I actually pay for games because I support the idea of DRM-free games/software. Steam is for my free slop and gifted games. I just pirate anything that's not on GOG and is exclusive to Steam.
>>724117675I have 2TB of video games currently. Still haven't backed up everything so I need to get a new SSD (and another one for redundancy). Although I also have hundreds of console ROMs as well.>>724139238That's a huge benefit for sure. Almost none of the slop games are there, while most good games have been published before 2012.
>>724116969I bought around 300 games from there so I like it
>>724116969Most of the games there are cheaper compared to Steam. I use GOG whenever I can, but not for online games
>>724139238>srsmost underrated raceing game of all time.
>>724120427This year, Pioneer discontinued these beauties. I just bought this libre drive enabled thing a month before they announced its fate. I use it to rip Blu-rays, DVDs, and music CDs.
>>724116969It doesn't allow me to play sleeping dogs in Germany
>>724116969I use it to browse indie releases and pirate them>but DRM and monopoly I don't give shit, fuckers tried to weasel out of the refund after I have told them their game repeatedly refused to launch with whatever fix they provided deleted my account shortly after, at least steam refunds shit without questions or bargaining
GOG is the ideal online shop and shopping there is good for all vidya. I get it that you gotta pirate if you're poor, but why be edgy about it? /v/ loves to complain about the state of things but when gives a good alternative you're suddenly a tranny for moral highstanding. This place is a retard party sometimes I swear.
>>724142181>no games>good alternativeO RLY
>>724142284It has plenty of games but you only care for modern slop
>>724141394>NFS Underground knock off with booba
>>724116969>What are your thoughts on it, /v/?Good service. I can download stuff and hold onto it, while getting updates and not dealing with piracy problems. The biggest problem is that most developers are just so concerned with piracy, and control in general, that they seem to hate the storefront.It's fine. Most AAA is junk so it's not a huge loss. There's the occasional game that I'd prefer to pick up but won't bother because it's not on GOG or itch.
