roblox

>>724135450
you should just save for the 5090

>>724135450
Sonic R

why not for a 5090

>>724135450
Bubsy 3d

>>724135450
Super 3D Noah's Ark

>>724135450
Kekcroc

>>724135450
Cyberpunk isn't fun so I'm not sure why that was your example.

>>724135553
I dont want a housefire
>>724135964
>>724135841
>>724135646
Guys

>>724136236
rollercoaster tycoon 2

kingdom come deliverance 2

>>724135450
Quake 3 Arena

>>724136236
>le housefire
my 5090 is fine
my 4090 is also fine
all the "muh burning connector" fearmongering retards are either computer illiterate and handle their pc parts like shit (pull at wires), or are incapable of putting the connector in all the way with their sausage fingers

>>724135450
None. Enjoy your unreal engine slop. The best games I've played in the last year all run on a budget machine.

>>724135450
Rain World.

What do you guys think will be the system requirements for RE 9? The only "modern" games I've played were RE 2R, 4R and Village. I don't feel like upgrading my PC

SimCity 3000 Unlimited

>>724136236
Leisure Suit Larry

>>724135450
Unironically Ratchet and Clank RA, this game looks great and has alright gameplay if little repetitive.
But calling CyberPunk77 good is delusional.

>>724136236
Turok 1

>>724135450
Dwarf Fortress

>>724136236
Papa's Pizzeria

>>724136236
cruelty squad

Why do i even ask you guys

>>724136236
Fallout 1

>>724135450
If you had to "save" for a GPU you poorfag you shouldn't buy it in the first place.

>>724137181
this poster is poor as shit he cant even afford a 5080 lmao

>>724135450
>Cyberpunk
>Fun
You can polish a turd all you like, it will still be just a turd.

>>724135450
Monster Hunter Wilds

>>724137297
this is ragebait

>>724136452
RE9 will be on the Re Engine not dogshit UE5 so if you could run 7 no problem you should be fine with 9.

>>724137438
That's great, I was afraid that they might make ray tracing a requirement like doom did

>>724137073
Wolfenstein 3D

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There is no reason to ever buy a high end card
Notice everyone just says a general "games" and never specifies because they don't want to admit
>I boughted the $2,000 card to play Ghosts of Yotei in 4K Ultra LGBTQ

Cyberpunk is five years old and it keeps getting mentioned because it's somehow one of the least humiliating AAA games ever made, which is dire

>>724137416
You've had almost 5 years to get over your buyer's remorse, move on.

>>724137634
oh you MAD mad aight

>>724137629
>I boughted the $2,000 card to play Ghosts of Yotei in 4K Ultra LGBTQ
I thought that it was a piss 5 exclusive

>>724137073
Yeah Yeah Beebis

>>724136452
Not to rain on your parade but you have to consider that they wanted the game to be more open, so you should probably expect more MHWilds performance levels than previous RE ones. But they were planning to improve their engine or some shit so maybe you're in luck and they will be done by the time 9 releases. It's a total gamble at this point.

>>724135583
What does R stand for?

>>724136375
everyone laugh at this degenerate defensive consumerist

>>724137894
That's why I was asking, from what I've seen I expected some new features. I've got a 2060 super so I hope that they don't go too far

>>724137967
not as much as people laugh at the coping poorfag

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>>724137726
kek, people often make that mistake
many such cases

>>724135450
I want to know this too because I wanna buy 2x5090s but all I play is like Diablo 2 Ressurected and the original Doom.

STALKER 2 is probably the benchmark for high end PCs these days.

Heroes of Might and Magic III
Gothic I & II

why do rtx5xxxx get so much hate? I remember people were kinda skeptical about 3xxx or 4xxx but 5 seems to be widely recognized as obsolete at launch
is that a 5 curse? gf fx5 were also shit compared to radeons from that time

>>724135450
The unfortunate truth is that many of the games these days with great graphics tend to have less of a focus on great gameplay. None the less there are some that are still quite fun despite their obvious flaws.
Cyberpunk as you mentioned is one.
Robocop.
Hogwarts Legacy. Make sure you install Ultra Plus from Nexusmods for additional ray tracing features (rtgi, skylight, ray traced water).
Alan Wake II if you don't mind playing as an ebony milf glowie.
Control
Star Wars Outlaws. Generic open world Ubisoft looter shooter gameplay, but it's really beautiful to look at with RTXDI, and the atmosphere is really nice.
Horizon Zero Dawn
Horizon Forbidden West but make sure you install the mod from Nexus which makes Aloy look like she does in the first game without the added lbs and facial hair

>>724135450
None.

>>724141564
It's quite literally one of the worst performance improvements a generation of graphics cards have ever seen. This is proven. The 5080 having the exact same VRAM capacity as the 4080, and literally half that of the 5090, is astounding. The laptop 5090, performs even worse on average exactly the same as the laptop 4090, and in some games even worse. The only card that is significantly better than previous gen is the desktop 5090, at around 29%. The 5080 is around 12% faster than the 4080 at best and the rest of the cards follow a similar pattern.

>>724141221
>Heroes of Might and Magic III
Man, with 5080 you could render all skeletons

>>724142337
5070ti is based

>>724138196
one more graphics card

>>724136375
Dumbass
The 12vhpwr is rated for 660w
Each pcie 8 pin is rated at 250 so at 4 of them you have 1000w
That's a lot more headroom
12vhpwr is jeet shit that saves on fucking cables as it has half as many delivering power where each gets double the amps going through them
If one of them fucks up no aspect of the system can do anything about it because there's no actual power management involved
so you end up with a cascade of failures where you're driving hundreds of watts through a single wire
With 4 8 pins even if 2 out of 3 wires in an individual connector fail that one wire is still drawing only 150 w
And all of this because Jensen is a faggot that wants his founders edition cards looking gay and apple like and he forces that standard on aibs

>>724135450
What's the point of buying anything above 5060 ?
Just bite the bullet and go full 5090
But that's me just using AI so I'm thinking in vram cost benefits
For gayming you don't need shit like gay tracing and the game are unoptimised trash

>>724143080
>coping poorfag can't help but reeeee

>>724144592
but pcie 8pins melt. Just poors and amd fags don't start threads about it everytime someone on reddit posts an image

I feel that my 2070 is near it's end. Buy or wait?

>>724148991
they don't have the potential to melt anywhere near as much due to the much more robust power distribution system, built in protections and bigger safety margin
this is a fact

>>724149965
how do you know if you only read about 12vhpwr melting?

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>>724140496
lol

Do you guys really need to save up for an $1000 purchase?

>>724135450
>cyberpunk
>fun
LMAO

>>724150310
do you often do this in games?

>>724150609
Uh oh, stalkie meltie!

>>724150310
Jesus Christ lmao

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>RTX 5080

>>724150707
>not being able to run H:L RTX is better than being able to run it but with some artifacts
I'm sure this works well in your head

>>724136236
Arkham knight at 4k120

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>>724150978
Sure sis

>>724135450
my 4080s is still ok

>>724151450
show it running on your PC lol

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My 4060 mobile still runs everything at 1080p 60fps

>>724135450
Red Dead Redemption 2
Dead Space Remake
Resident Evil 4 Remake
Witcher 3 raytraced
Skyrim modded

Grand Theft Auto 6 soon

>>724135450
minecraft with a few simple mods

>>724150189
because the conventional 8 pins are rated for 250w and they supply 150
with 4 pins that's 400 watts of safety
the 12vphwr has less than 100 watts of safety when used at its spec
how hard is it for you to get it through your fucking skull?

I'm gonna buy a 5070ti in the future so I can play Horizon Forbidden West, E33, Jedi Survivor, etc at 1080p ultra settings. For now I am gonna use my 1070 to play snes games.

>>724152106
How many 12vhpw connectors have melted on you?

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>>724135450
>>724137197
RTX 5080 is a shitty card bro it loses to last gen AMD

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>>724152301

>>724152281
how retarded and solipistic are you if you try to deflect hard numbers with anecdotes?

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>>724151615
I have a 5090 sister

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>>724152386
>>724152301
Poor Nvidia Drivers in 2025 today on Windows AND Linux

>>724152454
>I have a 5090 sister
that isn't your pc

>>724152425
So both cables melt. I've had neither melt. Neither have you.
Do you have a point?

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>>724152458

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>>724152717
Nvidia drivers sucked back then and still suck now you get crashing and stutter and corruption on Windows and Linux using any latest drivers.

It won't ever be fixed until "shader model 7" but by then everyone already moved to Linux for gaming on AMD/Deck 2.

>>724152606
>it doesn't happen to me therefore it doesn't happen at all
what a retarded amount of survivor bias
12VHPWR IS OBJECTIVELY, UNDENIABLY LESS SAFE THAN 8 PINS
quite telling how in the face of hard numbers all you can do is attempt to trivialise it because there is no reasonable ground on which you can defend it

Stellar Blade and Wukong
SB is a god tier game even if you were on console or playing at 1080p 60fps on pc, but of course it's even better maxed out
Wukong is a pretty good game that's elevated if you can max out the settings and RT. it's especially fun if you like boss rushes
neither of these are soulslikes btw

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>>724150978
>some artifacts
kek

>>724135450
I bought a 5080 at launch, and which it's nice to play things at a higher framerate, there isn't really anything I've played on it that makes it feel like the extra power was necessary. For the record, I don't play trash like Cyberpunk or Alan Wake 2 or whatever other casual AAA trash people pretend is good.

>>724136236
Onirism

>>724152942
>I don't want housefire
>but I don't know anyone who has had a house fire either
yes. you're retarded

>>724154106
>i need to experience it personally for it to be real
you're so fucking stupid and selfish it hurts and it's stunning how anyone could possibly have this retarded view where they reject factual information to suck off corporations
alright faggot, how about you tell me about the supposed advantages of 12vhpwr if you're willing to mount this limp defense at all

>>724135450
Mirror's Edge Catalyst.
You'll struggle to run the first game, though.

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>>724150978
This is footage I captured on my PC running it. It's compressed because I made it so long, but that's ghosting you're seeing and not compression artifacts.

>>724135450
Earthworm Jim
Jazz Jackrabbit
Jackie Chan Adventures

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>>724152937
I have 5070 ti for half a year and literally not even one hang or crash or anything. Only had one 0.5s black screen once after updating one time.

>>724154638
do you spend the entire game under that fan?

>>724154925
Do you get mad at the concept of representative examples because you're brown and have a room temp IQ? Do you ignore parts of webms (like the fire) you don't like so you can pretend you have a point?

>>724135450

Wukong, Stellar Blade, Dying Light 2.

But buying GPU like this is mostly for future proofing. I'm getting 150fps in maxed AAA games without framegen. 100fps with path tracing.

>>724154378
>it'll burn your house down
>but I don't know anyone who has had it burn their house down
>just believe me that it will though
>and that's why I'm not buying one. Because I've convinced myself that every 5090 will burn a house down
sure thing. I believe you

>>724135450
Warcraft II Tides of Darkness

>>724155007
I don't lose my shit over an artifact under a fan while looking up in a game demo

>>724153207
I've just ran stalker and don't get this at all

>>724154512
Physx is optional, dumbass

There is no point in owning a 5080 for a 36% performance increase over a 5070 while double the price while a 5090 is a 85% performance boost over a 5070 while being quadruple the price.
Get a 5070/S/ti or go for broke you faggot.

>pajeets with outlet 1050 laptops talking about 5090s

Always funny.

>>724155153
why can't people just be happy for the OP and his new GPU?

>>724143062
Its what the 4070ti should have been.

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>>724155060
You may not care about visual fidelity, but other people do. You don't need dogshit ray tracing that introduces temporal smearing everywhere and rapes your framerate to have good lighting in a game. We already have dynamic lighting. He's another webm I made myself.

>>724155264
Yes I do. I like ray tracing. My frame rate is fine.

>>724155264
I'm not even sure what your webm is supposed to show?

How much did you pay for your 5080? Otherwise I'd just play VR games at higher resolution and framerate. My 3070 is struggling hard...

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>>724155153
You get 5070 Ti for vram. Maybe 5070 if you never plan to go above 1080p. Ti is still worth it because it will get you above 60fps in most demanding shit.

>>724155031
ah, i finally spent 1,000 dollars on a video card, now its time for my great reward; getting to play

wukong, stellar blade and dying light 2.

but don't worry, there are future triple a games to look forward to like, uh.... gta 6? and uh....

>>724155328
>Yes I do.
You very clearly don't.
>My frame rate is fine.
No, it's not.

>>724155378
The whole point of ray tracing is better lighting. That webm shows that you can have directional dynamic lighting without assraping framerate and filling games with horrible smearing and temporal artifacts. Ray tracing adds some more realistic light bounces, but it absolutely isn't worth the cost. It will be eventually, but it isn't now.

>>724155036
i don't see a defense here jensencuck
try again
because i've cited actual reasons related to power draw and all i see from you is some poor attempts at social engineering
why is the 12vhpwr better than 8 pins?
why is the 12vhpwr better than 8 pins?
why is the 12vhpwr better than 8 pins?
why is the 12vhpwr better than 8 pins?
why is the 12vhpwr better than 8 pins?

why is the 12vhpwr better than 8 pins?
why is the 12vhpwr better than 8 pins?
why is the 12vhpwr better than 8 pins?
why is the 12vhpwr better than 8 pins?
if you're not willing to answer this then shut the fuck up

>>724155558
that webm shows a direct light and some simple shadows. It has nothing to do with ray tracing at all.
Why don't you go back to playing games on your AMD no ray tracing GPU instead of going into Nvidia threads to have a melty?

>>724155519
What is this sad cope? Being safe for next 5 years is great. Especially since 3/4 of the Blackwell features are not even supported in current engines yet. OMM alone improves PT performance by over 2 times.

>>724155647
>you must defend your GPU power connector to some random poorfag
lol no I don't you silly mong

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>>724155405

The RX9060XT it's better

>>724155558
You have no idea what ray tracing is you silly clown.

>>724155717
>that webm shows a direct light and some simple shadows. It has nothing to do with ray tracing at all.
Are you an ESL or are you intentionally being dense? I'll walk you through my post again.
>The whole point of ray tracing is better lighting.
>That webm shows that you can have directional dynamic lighting without assraping framerate and filling games with horrible smearing and temporal artifacts.
>Ray tracing adds some more realistic light bounces, but it absolutely isn't worth the cost.
Is that easy enough for you to follow?

>Why don't you go back to playing games on your AMD no ray tracing GPU instead of going into Nvidia threads to have a melty?
I have a 5080 and I've literally never owned an AMD GPU. You sound brown and stupid. Post hand and specs.

>>724155760
>hardware performance increases of maybe 5-10%/year
>software performance decreases of 40-60%/year
>safe for 5 years
Yeah you are... get the nicest one you can 'afford', goy.

>>724155903
your webm is literally skyrim shadows you muppet

>>724137629
I got a 5090 and have never seen it go over 35% utilization in games because I don't play modern shit. But AI generation is another story. That's precisely why I got it.

>>724155973
Explain what raytracing adds over directional dynamic light and shadows and how it's worth destroying framerates and introducing horrible smearing and artifacts. And don't forget to post your hand and your specs. No handwaving, I want real answers.

>>724155818
you're defending it already faggot
but very poorly i must admit, this social shit is not working on anyone with even the slightest hint of testosterone, a very feminine peer pressure type shit you're trying to pull
anyone would be able to understand that quartering the safety margin is objectively making something less safe
you're legitimately so fucking retarded that you think something not being visible to the naked eye means it doesn't exist

>>724156047
in the situation of your webm - nothing.
maybe some bounced light global illumination
stupid clueless mong.

Wukong, Space Marines 2, RE4 remake, Silent Hill 2.

>>724156096
>reee it'll melt on you. just defend it to me
ha ha what a bellend

>>724156110
>in the situation of your webm
Then give a situation where it adds something over regular directional dynamic lighting, you retarded shitskin. And post your own fucking specs.

>>724155879
9060XT is comfy. It also doesnt use much power to heat the room uncomfortably. 5090 users need an AC running 24/7. Imagine spending so much money just for the newest bling until in 2 years when it will be obsoleted by the next new bling.

>>724156226
https://youtu.be/ttghcA4kUQU

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>>724135450
Alan Wake 2, Saga is a stupid nigger but the game is incredible, despite how shitty she is as a character.

>>724156151
again, just because you can't see something with the naked eye doesn't mean it doesn't exist
let's bring it down to a childish level that you'll have to understand
toys painted with asbestos paints are less safe than child safe paint
baby get it now?

>>724156504
>you're childish
>it'll burn your house down
fucking lol shut up poorfag

Mortal Kombat 1. Woke and dead but graphics are very good.

>>724155879
omg is this real?

>>724156563
so you don't mind your mom repainting your room's walls with asbestos?
at least you've settled the level at which you're operating
i can't imagine any lurker taking you seriously

>>724156283
https://youtu.be/ttghcA4kUQU?t=128
So a tech demo (not a game) filled with horrible delay and ghosting on the light? You're an idiot. And you still haven't posted your specs.

>>724156825
>poorfag never gives up

>>724152937
>GTX 750
Nigger this picture is 11 years old lol

>>724156903
>Then give a situation where it adds something over regular directional dynamic lighting
I give a situation. You're just too fucking stupid to understand

>>724135450
minecraft with mods

>>724155558
>The whole point of ray tracing is better lighting.
No it's not. The point is accurate lighting that is much faster to implement than the thousand little tricks and conditional workarounds of traditional or baked lighting, and it requires virtually zero MB/GB of information on the disk which is massive contrast to baked and probe lighting.

>>724156504
>toys painted with asbestos paints are less safe than child safe paint
I think you meant lead paint and asbestos walls, champ.

>>724156927
>shill tries apple tier tactics with measurable statistics

>>724157153
>I'm not buying that $3000 GPU because it'll burn down my village hut
lol

>>724156981
>I give a situation.
No you didn't, ESLtard. You showed a tech demo. That's not a situation, just like this here isn't a situation but also a tech demo
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7K5euAe6l8w
The difference is that I could explain how destruction physics like that would be good in a game by giving a situation, for example enemies hiding behind cover made of different materials and the player being able to shoot it out in different ways with different weapons. Now I know you're very brown and retarded, but fire up those brain cells and give an actual example of how ray tracing makes things better. And post your fucking specs.

>>724157017
>the point isn't better lighting
>the point is more accurate lighting in real time
Those are the same thing. You just tried to create a dichotomy where there isn't one.

>>724157327
I'm not even sure if you're a genuine retard or just fucking about

>>724157195
>i trust an objective degradation of standards because jensen told me to

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>>724157431
Is your English really so bad that you don't understand the difference between a situation in a game where a new technology provides some kind of benefit, and a literal tech demo? I pray for the day this board gets flags and lets us filter posts by flag.

>>724157461
>owned 4x GPUs with 12vhpwr connections
>all work perfectly
>some anon tells me that they're going to burn house down in 2 more weeks so I should believe him
ha ha

>>724157548
I just don't care enough to entertain you with your demands. You asked about a situation and it wasn't good enough. I'll post another and that too won't be good enough. You're just another crying faggot on the internet

>>724157565
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Survivorship_bias

>>724157565
>poorfag cope

>>724157623
You don't know what situation means, you're a brown retard, you don't have a GPU capable of actually running ray tracing in any modern game, and you don't know shit about lighting in games. All this started because you got mad at this webm here
>>724154638
for showing just how awful real time ray tracing in games still looks. You can have another reply when you learn English, and when you post your specs. Pretending to be aloof and saying you won't entertain my demands isn't the damage control you want to pretend it is given how long you've been argument. All you've done is highlight the fact that you know you have no leg to stand on in the argument.

>>724157548
>situation in a game where a new technology provides some kind of benefit
accurate lighting is a benefit.

>>724157831
>you just don't know
you've proven you don't know what ray tracing is.
My PC is better than yours by the way.

>>724157327
>Those are the same thing
Those are not the same thing.

Think of Skyrim dungeons. You can stumble into a cave that should by all accounts be dark and gloomy, but it's lit up and when you observe it in a vacuum the lighting is actually way too strong. This is done on purpose because there's inscriptions on the walls you're supposed to notice and there are points of interests to interact with, and there's a beam of super strong light coming from a hole in the ceiling to point out an artifact even though the beam should realistically be 95% weaker. This isn't "realistic" or accurate lighting at all but it works and makes the scene look more dramatic, points out things the devs wanted you to notice.

A lot of mods try to "fix" Skyrim's lighting by making the lighting accurate and simulating raytracing. By making the light no weaker and stronger than what the environment and its exact measurements dictate. And all this does is in this cave is make it all fucking dark and you're barely able to see anything because now it's accurate for the cave to be dark. You wouldn't see the inscriptions in the wall, nor the artifact. And most people rejected these mods because it made the game look worse, even though it was more accurate.

Accurate lighting and better lighting isn't the same. If you placed two lights next to each other and one was surrounded by out-of-place volumetrics and had a super strong glow, everyone would say that's better lighting even though it's less accurate.

>>724157880
Not when it assrapes framerates and causes visual artifacts to provide a very nominal benefit over non-ray traced dynamic lighting. The only game that's come close to actually looking good with ray traced lighting was Metro Exodus.

>>724157983
my fps is fine.

>>724157940
>Those are not the same thing.
Yes, they are. Getting light in games that behaves like real light IS better lighting.
>This is done on purpose because there's inscriptions on the walls you're supposed to notice and there are points of interests to interact with, and there's a beam of super strong light coming from a hole in the ceiling to point out an artifact even though the beam should realistically be 95% weaker. This isn't "realistic" or accurate lighting at all but it works and makes the scene look more dramatic, points out things the devs wanted you to notice.
That doesn't mean light is behaving unrealistically, it just means that light sources are placed unrealistically.
>If you placed two lights next to each other and one was surrounded by out-of-place volumetrics and had a super strong glow, everyone would say that's better
If they were blind, maybe.

>>724135450
>5080
I am using 4090 and I won't switch to anything but 5090 or better.

>>724158031
No, it's not.

>>724158110
>That doesn't mean light is behaving unrealistically, it just means that light sources are placed unrealistically.
This is some of the must dumb jewish pilpul I've seen on this site. It's like saying bad driving isn't fault of the driver, but the fault of the road for being constructed that way. Shut the fuck up faggot.

>>724158194
how would you know, you claim to have a 5080. I haven't had a GPU that weak in 3 years. lol

>>724158230
have you ever considered that you're not as bright as you think you are and you come across as completely retarded to others?

>>724158230
>This is some of the must dumb jewish pilpul I've seen on this site.
You're a dumb faggot. Modulating the strength and directionality of a lightsource for dramatic effect doesn't make light's behavior unrealistic. It still bounces and reflects off different surfaces like real light does even in your example. It's impressive just how fucking stupid you need to be to try to insist that light sources in games aren't behaving like realistic light just because they're placed in places they shouldn't be and have their intensity modulated.

>>724158231
Feel free to post a webm you made of your framerates being fine with ray tracing on (I sure hope you don't need to use DLSS) whenever you're ready. I look forward to your next retarded reply along the lines of
>i don't need to prove anythinkg lmao
Dumb monkey.

>>724158281
Supremely ironic reply showcasing an utter lack of self-awareness.

Light can behave unrealistically regardless of how its sources are placed. You can cast completely accurate lighting but then multiply the ray density 50x to make it look like a god ray or a laser, this'll be unrealistic lighting even though the source is placed just fine. You're arguing retarded semantics instead of addressing the point I told you earlier, which is that the point of raytracing is not necessarily BETTER lighting but more accurate lighting that's way faster and cheaper to develop while taking way less space than something like baked or probe lighting.

>>724158592
>You can cast completely accurate lighting but then multiply the ray density 50x to make it look like a god ray or a laser,
>which is that the point of raytracing is not necessarily BETTER lighting but more accurate lighting
It's insane that you wrote both of these things in the same post and don't understand how it undermines the point you're pretending to make. You're genuinely impressively retarded.

>>724155760
you didn't mention anything about games at all in your post

the sad cope is, the point of graphics cards is to play GAMES

but all the newest bloatiest shit that /needs/ ridiculous video cards are virtually all trash

borderlands 99 needed you to have a 5080 to get 12 fps in anything other than 1080p

did that mean it was a good game? no

the last good game i played with vampires the masquerade bloodilnes 1, because of 2 coming out. it requires you to have the equivalent of a smart fridge, and its still a better game than any triple A that came out in the past three years.

the sad cope is that i was thinking of buying a new video card, and then i realized, all it would let me do is play 3 or 4 games, of which only 1 i gave a shit about, and i haven't upgraded in over 3 years.

the sad cope is that there's very little to look forward to in terms of triple A games. shit just sucks.

>>724158789
It doesn't undermine anything, you're just too retarded to understand the difference between lighting that's 100% faithful to the environment and sources, and lighting that's been tuned to be way stronger and weaker depending on what the devs want to highlight.

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>>724158550

>>724158913
>wall of text

Stop being poor.

>>724159226
stop being the reason why developers feel free to make dog shit games without optimization

>>724135450
I bought a 5070 ti and a 5070 for my second PC for less than a 5080

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>>724155879
It's definitely not better but it's a good poorfag option.

The issue with Radeon 9000 series is that they lack a ton of hardware AI/RT/PT shit that Nvidia has since RTX 4000 and will soon force into every game. So they may age badly. Just like last gen Radeons that can't even run FSR4.

>>724159346
But that's consoles.

>>724158945
>and lighting that's been tuned to be way stronger and weaker depending on what the devs want to highlight.
You fucking idiot. Light that's tuned to be stronger or weaker still behaves like light. Ray tracing isn't about space saving, it's about what doing controlled baked lights do but in real time. How is it even possible to be this fucking stupid?

Why waste your money when you can buy a 4070 and play any game that you want

>>724158952
>high end GPU
>below 120fps
Shit framerates aside, let's see your settings.

Ray tracing is a meme that barely does anything but path tracing is fucking amazing.

>>724159698
it's running 8k you absolute melt

>>724159759
I can see the resolution of the image. I didn't ask for the resolution, I asked for your settings. Do you understand what that means or do you need me to grunt like a monkey for you to understand? We both know you're using DLSShit and you're still below 120, so why don't you stop pretending your framerates are fine?

should have gone with 3090 and go for AI pill

>>724160048
path tracing preset
now you try

>>724136236
https://www.youtube.com/shorts/IQHjhBq7cwE

>>724160090
And what does that preset do for DLSS settings?

>>724160229
you don't even have the vram to render that high resolution. ha

>>724160272
>my framerate is fine!
>you're using DLSS and it looks like shit while still not having a good framerate
>nu-uh, look at my resolution!
>okay but what about DLSS?
And then you proceeded to talk in circles to try to avoid admitting that you're running DLSS, which everyone knows looks like absolute shit in motion. All this to play below 120fps. You're a fucking retard. lol

>>724160359
>my frame rate is fine
>you must not use dlss it looks shit in motion
that's probably your midrange gpu

>>724135450
still have an rtx 2060 and havent seen a reason to get a better video card in literally almost 6 years
new games are trash, and anything decent that comes out doesnt need high these overpriced low specs (for what we should have by now) cards of today

>>724160456
The problem is that no amount of shitposting will make DLSS not look like shit in motion. Sorry faggot, but you lost. lol

>>724160494
>dlss looks fine on 4k
>retard has midrange gpu and 1440p screen and thinks it's like that for everyone
no retard it isn't

>>724141564
because the cards were made for AI and not gaming

>>724160542
>dlss looks fine on 4k
Wrong. You're a fucking retard. I've tried it on a 4K screen and it still looks and feels like shit. 1440p at a very high framerate is much better, not that anyone who plays Cyberpunk cares about how games actually play. lol

>>724160650
>1440p is fine
it is when you're a brokey I guess.

>>724160650
>1440p at a very high framerate is much better
I get higher fps at 4k than you get at 1440p
lol

>>724135450
>besides cyberpunk?
Cyberpunk is ugly and not good

>>724135450
I guess you could try generating AI futa porn

>>724160650
NTA but I have 1080p, 1440p, and 4k displays. 4k is the only way to mitigate, and sometimes eliminate, dithering. My 1440p collects dust now because it's kinda the worst of both worlds, but I pretty much got it as a fallback if I can't upgrade my hardware in time to keep up. I typically do 4k60 framegenned up to 120 in demanding games and am fairly happy.

>>724160723
I have both. 1440p at a higher framerate is better.

>>724160784
>I get higher fps at 4k than you get at 1440p
Your monitor's max refresh rate isn't even as high as the framerate I get in games. DLSS looks like dogshit and sub-120 isn't a good framerate. lol

>>724135450
You can probably run Age of Empires II Definitive Edition with a couple mods

>>724160953
>muh frames
why did you buy a 5080 if you wanted high frames?

>>724160945
4K is a great way to bruteforce through jaggies, but that doesn't stop DLSS from looking like shit which you need to do if you're going to run ray tracing at 4K and play at anything even resembling a good framerate.

>>724160996
Because the 5090 still can't play games at 4K at good framerates without using DLSS (which is objectively shit) and the 5080 is more than strong enough to play at high framerates at 1440p, which is also a size that you can buy a good OLED monitor that goes above 240hz. I couldn't care less about generative AI, so the VRAM isn't an issue.

>>724135450
just get an AMD card if you arent using that shit for blender or any rendering shit anon. You are wasting your money
but then again its your fucking money

>>724161138
>the 5090 is shit , but my 5080 isn't
that's some coolaid cope you've just gulped down.
Crazy how the boards poorfags openly post the most retarded shit day after day

i genuinely think theres some psyop going with people calling others poor for buying a card 1 tier below the highest end. they have to be paid shills cause i don't know how you can defend a card line like the 50 series so much when it doesn't even cater to gamers.

>>724161184
See you when in 2 years every new game runs like shit on RDNA4 and new FSR version is for RDNA5 only.

>>724161213
The 5090 can't run 4K at good framerates. The 5080 can run 1440p at good framerates. I know you're an idiot, but no amount of shitposting is going to make sub-120fps with DLSS on look or feel good. You can keep doing your retarded little monkey dance by yourself now, but you're still a retard pretending DLSS looks good at any resolution. lol

>>724161358
my frame rate is fine. You had to go down to 1440p for your shit gpu to manage. lol

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>here is my 100% unbiased opinion about hardware I don't have and is like 5x above my budget

>>724161352
the psyop is getting people to still buy cards with these pathetic low amounts of ram
if the literal best consumer card on the market cant run borderlands 4 on max settings in 4k at 240fps why the fuck would i buy it

>>724136236
Deus Ex goty edition

>>724161408
>my frame rate is fine.
>sub-120
>DLSShit on
>fine
lol

>>724161358
DLSS4 looks better than native. In some games going from DLSS4 Q to native literally makes my eyes bleed. DLAA is even better.

>Imagine playing video games at 4K with a good framerate
That's pure fantasy. GPUs will never catch up to the unoptimized games.

>>724161490
my fps is whatever i want it to be
I can lower resolution, add dlss, turn settings down, I'll have more fps than you, I'm not sure why this is even a debate

>>724161354
i dont play triple shit A games anymore sadly. I just use it for making anime models.

>>724161520
DLAA is better than TAA because it's the less bad temporal option. DLSS4 absolutely does not look better than native.

>>724161584
>on my poorfag 1440p display

Jesus Christ bros when are the super variants coming. I've been saving since June of this year for a graphics card and I have now over $2000.

>>724161358
>The 5080 can run 1440p at good framerates
The 5090 can run 1440p at better framerates. Not sure why you're trying to die on this hill of cope

>>724161584
It does and even AMD unboxed and AMD nexus agreed.

>>724161550
>add dlss
That's nice. Your games will always look like shit when you try to play at a decent framerate.

>>724161629
Would a screenshot of a game running at 4K with DLSS on and me calling it shit make you kill yourself? I'd be happy to provide that. I'm also willing to bet my 1440p monitor cost more than whatever monitor you're using.

>>724161645
24gb vram cards will evaporate in seconds because of AI fags. 5070 Super is probably coming mid 2026.

Why would Nvidia rush anything when they are winning so hard?

>>724161685
>my monitor costs more
maybe it did , maybe it didn't. but if I wanted a different monitor I'd just go and buy one. even yours

>>724161673
>The 5090 can run 1440p at better framerates.
It can, but the highest refresh rate you could get on a 1440p OLED monitor when the 50 series launched was 360hz, and the 5080 is fine for that whereas the 5090 is overkill. Not sure what point you think you're making by strawmanning some imaginary argument where I'm pretending the 5080 is stronger than a 5090.

>>724161801
>meme-hz
nobody cares about retard frames

>>724161773
>maybe it did
You must be really upset now that you can't pretend all your hardware is more expensive and therefore better.
>but if I wanted a different monitor I'd just go and buy one. even yours
Now this is some anal pain.

>>724161859
>nobody cares about retard frames
Enjoy your smeared low framerate games that look and feel like shit to play.

>>724161685
>I'm also willing to bet my 1440p monitor cost more than whatever monitor you're using
now you're just pivoting from being too poor to afford a 5090

>>724161926
>you must be upset that you can buy whatever monitor you want and you didn't choose a 1440p one
fucking lol

>>724161970
Do you really think that I spent $2000 on an upgrade on a whim but somehow $3000 would have been too much? Is this the level of mental gymnastics you're on?

>>724161989
Like I said, enjoy your games looking like shit and running at shit framerates. Just keep pretending smeared 4K is good.

>>724161801
>It can,
awesome. glad you reached an agreement.

>>724162169
Yes. you had to choose between a 5080 or a 5090 and you chose the 5080 because you couldn't buy a 5090

>>724162172
>glad you reached an agreement.
Show me where I claimed it couldn't. If you can't, then you were arguing against a strawman, and only retards do that.

>>724162248
>The 5090 can't run 4K at good framerates. The 5080 can run 1440p at good framerates.
I can run 4k higher frames than you run 1440p

>>724162228
Nice headcanon, but no. I got a new monitor and a new GPU, and I'd rather play at a lower resolution and a higher framerate than vice versa. Keep up with the mental gymnastics where you pretend DLSS doesn't look like shit, though.

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>>724135450
>Saved up

>>724162347
>I'd rather play at a lower resolution
nobody says this. this is just your cope because you had to cheap out on both your screen and gpu

>>724162169
You defeat yourself with your own cope replies>>724161801
if you could afford to buy it, then you would've bought it

>>724162340
>I can run 4k higher frames than you run 1440p
You've overplayed your hand shitposting.

>>724162415
>nobody says this.
Anyone who cares about how games actually look says this when the tradeoff is shit visuals via DLSS.

>5080 poorfag is platinum mad

>>724135553
>buy 3090ti the gamers gfx card @1500
>3 years later buy a 4070ti for 700 for better performance

>>724162530
>how games actually look
>1440p
>1440p
fucking lol shut up retard

>>724162446
>with your own cope replies
What part of that is cope? Are you a marketer or just some kind of retard that wasn't paying attention to what kind of monitors you can buy and what kinds of framerates they get? Please don't tell me you're running some kind LCD monitor or something 240hz or below and pretending you bought a good monitor. Please.

>>724162627
please tell us what this amazing monitor of yours is

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>>724162579
>1440p
DLSS looks like dogshit at 4K. You're out of shitposting retard copes now. lol

>>724162789
Post the whole image including monitor and gpu

>>724162680
Holy shit, you are using a garbage monitor and pretending your games look good. I hope you're actually a marketer and not actually just that fucking stupid and tech illiterate.

>>724162881
>can't answer simple questions without sperging out

>>724162789
Literally everyone testing DLSS says it's best at 4k.

>>724162851
Your damage control is over now. It's time to stop posting. DLSS looks like shit at any resolution.

>>724162925
>shill youtube channels say it looks good
That's nice.

>>724162978
>dlss looks like shit on my 3060 at 4k
yes i know

>>724162913
>got caught with his pants down after pretending to care about how his games look despite not knowing shit about display tech
lol
We're done now.

>>724163062
what monitor do you have you fucking simpleton

>>724163156
MPG271QX

>>724163384
>MPG271QX
lol I thought you had a good monitor. Both of mine cost more than yours and 1 of them cost double
ha ha silly retarded poor

>>724162627
>are you a marketer
>projects bragging about his monitor

>>724163671
Post your monitor.

>>724163062
We were done at the beginning when you coped over not being about to afford a 5090. Everything else has been you sperging

>>724163786
my main is a LG48GQ900 , my second PC has a FV43U. Both PCs have 5090s in. lol

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I have a 3060 is it time for me to scrap it all and rebuild?

>>724163909
>LG48GQ900
>WOLED
>120hz
>0.1ms response time
>FV43U
>fucking LCD
>144hz
Thanks for the laugh. Both your monitors look like shit and have low framerates. You go on pretending your games look good, you silly tech illiterate man.

>>724164404
I love the fact you came back after getting severely buttfucked to post some more retarded shit

>>724164489
>to post some more retarded shit
You know less than nothing about display tech, otherwise you wouldn't be bragging about worse panels with worse response times. Stick to posting Cyberpunk screenshots and pretending that DLSS looks good.

>>724164550
>my pc looks like shit so yours must do too

>>724164489
>to post some more retarded shit
Anon those are monitor specs. His is a QD OLED with 0.3ms response times and a 360hz refresh rate. Yours are higher resolution, but his completely blows them out of the water with regards to everything else (including HDR performance) and only morons think resolution is all that matters when choosing a display. Take a step back and stop arguing about things you clearly don't understand.

>>724164489
your screens are fucking shit lmao
entry level oleds have double the refresh rates of your shit

>>724164697
find a better one? there isn't any.

INZOI when (or maybe, if) they decide to let the mods going so we get GTA The SIMS porn edition.

>>724164695
>27" 1440p screen is better than a 48" 4k
jesus christ all the poors are joining in with the retard now

>>724164661
Your PC looks like shit because you're running on objectively inferior displays at low framerates with DLSS on. Enjoy your poorfag monitors. BTW my 4K TV is as good as your "good" monitor while being bigger, and it looks a lot worse than my main monitor. That's hwo I know your games look like shit.

>>724164948
>but I have a tv
really, who doesn't? I have a 5090. You don't lol

>>724164918
You can stop samefagging now. No one who isn't a retard pretends that resolution trumps everything else.

>>724164778
???
it takes 10 seconds to find a 4k 240hz oled and 1440p 500hz oleds with bfi on absolutely crush your garbage tv?

>>724162627
>coped to 1440p gaming when exposed as not being able to afford a 5090
>pivoted to monitor when confronted that 5090 would do better numbers at 1440p
>coped saying that you could totally afford a 5090 but didn't buy one because it would be overkill for your monitor
It's all hilarious

>>724165068
go on then. find one. point it out

>>724164918
see
>>724164948
Yes, the 27" 1440p monitor looks better than my 55" 4K OLED TV because it's a better, faster panel. You're a tech illiterate retard.

>>724165121
You already showed everyone that you know less than nothing about monitors which means anything you say about how games look is pointless. You can stop damage controlling.

>>724165131
nigger just search for a 4k 240hz oled and you'll find one in 10 seconds
how fucking crippled are you

>>724165180
yes, fucking 27" small shit things. Why the fuck would I want a monitor for ants?
find me a better monitor, post a link.

>>724165175
>my little tiny screen looks better than my shit tv
>on my shit gpu
you're not having much luck buying things are you?

>>724165336
Like I said, you've already proven that you don't know shit about displays and anything you say about games looking good is worthless. Stop embarrassing yourself.

>>724137073
because (((YOU))) are an attention seeking little bitch?

>>724165261
they're 32 inches you dunce
and they're made to actually play games on and not for generic clueless normies like you

>>724165425
>you just don't know shit
>i'm the one who bought a 5080 and 1440p screen which is better than my big tv
what a dumb retard you are. who the fuck give you access to a bank account ?

>>724165464
why would i want a 32" monitor? I want a big screen. That's why I bought a 48"
Find me a better monitor

>>724165494
>My monitor is bigger so it's better!
You're so fucking stupid that I almost feel bad. Enjoy your games that look and feel like shit.

>>724165175
>You already showed everyone that you know less than nothing about monitors
nta sorry, you're sperging so hard you can't even follow the conversations you were having. You've already taken an offtopic pivot to the thread and now you've come back after you said you were done.

>>724165570
but they don't. you have to imagine what my pc runs like. I don't have to imagine what yours is like. Don't you get it. I can buy yours right now if I wanted to, which I don't.

>>724165596
>nta
Okay, champ. I'm sure there are 2 tech illiterate retards here arguing about monitors when they clearly don't understand what any of the specs mean besides resolution and screen size.

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>>724160359
>And then you proceeded to talk in circles to try to avoid admitting that you're running DLSS, which everyone knows looks like absolute shit in motion
It realy doesn't anymore, that's outdated news. DLSS4 degrades in motion significantly less than the vendor-agnostic render methods.

>>724165538
because you understand that the monitors are made to play games at high refresh rates and thus are made to a higher standard than normie content displayers?

>>724165641
>I don't have to imagine what yours is like.
You've never run a game with a good refresh rate on a good panel. You literally don't know what good games look and feel like.
>I could
Sure thing. Whatever helps you sleep at night.

>>724165678
>buys tiny 1440p monitor with memehz and a 5080
>thinks it's good
>spends night arguing about how good it is to people with better stuff
my god you're brilliant. I bet you have no friends

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>>724160650
>Wrong. You're a fucking retard. I've tried it on a 4K screen and it still looks and feels like shit. 1440p at a very high framerate is much better
With 4K DLSS Performance you can get better image quality and clarity than native 1440p while also having a higher framerate. Only people who've never used DLSS at 4K don't know this.

>>724165740
>muh high refresh rates
>derp. I'll just buy a 5080 then
utter monglet ha ha ha

>>724165725
Show that same comparison with DLAA native.

>>724165767
I have. I've had a high refresh 1440p monitor a few years ago. It was shit.

>>724165830
>i'm buying the most expensive card only to play it on a normiebox
brilliant

>>724165770
>memehz
lol
>night
Turd worlder confirmed

>>724160650
DLSS @ 4k is rendering 1440p
are you saying 1440 is shit? lol

>>724165945
>third worlder
>I have 5080 and 1440p

>>724165810
>With 4K DLSS Performance you can get better image quality and clarity than native 1440p
Not while moving.
>Only people who've never used DLSS at 4K don't know this.
You might have a point if I couldn't try them both and physically see the difference.

>>724165678
I know the quality of your monitor. I'm not going to accept the offtopic pivot away from the graphics card discussion. You're still coping

>>724165910
find me a better screen. If you can I'll buy it right now.

>>724166035
>Not while moving.
Yes while moving. All 3 of those images are taken during motion in the Cyberpunk 2077 benchmark which is always moving, it says so in the filename.

>>724165880
>It was shit.
Because it was a shitty LCD, no doubt.

>>724166042
>I know the quality of your monitor.
Post your monitor.
>pivot away from the graphics card discussion
Post a good 4K monitor that the 5090 can get good framerates on without DLSS.

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>saved up
Do poorfags really?

>>724166135
it was shit because it was 1440p

>>724166114
It's still a static image, you mong. Screaming about people not being able to see it themselves doesn't work when you're trying to argue with someone who's tested them all out in person.

>>724166060
your definition of good involves it being tv sized lmao
you don't actually want to play games, you want to watch movies

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What games can I play?

>>724135450
VRChat, but your gimped VRAM isn't enough for it.

>>724166239
>It's still a static image
Taken during motion.
Temporal blur is visible in still screenshots as long as they are taken during motion, and these were. You don't know how this stuff works.

>>724166156
not him but I have other more expensive hobbies that take the bigger part of my income, so I have to budget for the cheaper ones like gaming

>>724166135
>Post your monitor.
This is all obfuscation from the graphics card discussion and was reconciled earlier in the thread >>724161773

>>724166404
>Temporal blur is visible in still screenshots as long as they are taken during motion
For 1 single frame.
>You don't know how this stuff works.
I do. How about you show these things in motion where multiple objects are moving in front of one another? Since that's what frequently happens in games and when DLSS looks like shit the most often. Having your character run in front of stuff makes it clear how bad it looks. You'd know this if you actually played games and tried them at different settings.

>yet another thread plagued by the london jeet nvidiot

>>724166520
Oh, you're the retard with the awful monitors who pretends your games don't look like shit because the only spec you understand is size. Admirable damage control, but you'd shown to all the tech literates here that nothing you say about how games look matters. Nothing was reconciled as you saying you could buy a better monitor is the same as me saying I could buy a 5090. The 5090 would still never perform at good framerates at 4K on any screen.

>>724166632
Is he a jeet? That would explain the tech illiteracy and obstinance.

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>>724166426
>I have to budget

>>724166724
>Oh, you're the retard with the awful monitors who pretends your games don't look like shit because the only spec you understand is size.
Nope nta, still coping
>Admirable damage control, but you'd shown to all the tech literates here that nothing you say about how games look matters.
mistaken and projecting
>Nothing was reconciled as you saying you could buy a better monitor is the same as me saying I could buy a 5090
You didn't buy the 5090 and coped about how it would be overkill. I buy your monitor and my 5090+Your monitor combo does better at 1440p than your setup. Go buy a 5090 tomorrow if you want to prove otherwise

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>>724135450
Deus Ex goty edition

>>724167440
Okay, Sanjeet.

This really turned into sunk cost fallacy the thread real quick lmao.
this is why you niggas stay poor

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>>724166239
I'll humor you, idiot. Here's a video in which you can visibly see that 4K DLSS Perfomance > 1440p regardless of whether it's a still scene or a moving scene, slowed down to 0.25x speed. If you're gonna bitch that it's a compressed webm resized to fit on a 1080p sceren (even though the differences are clearly visible) then I can upload the full fat full size video and host it online as well.

In case you don't have eyes I'll reiterate what I told you earlier: someone with 4K DLSS Performance (so only 1080p internally) is not only getting better image quality than your 1440p - he's also getting slightly better raw framerate than you too. Tech outlets, even the ones famously anti-Nvidia and anti-AI shit, say the same thing because they're not desperately avoiding admitting reality. There's a reason why they compare upscaled 4K to native 4K instead of upscaled 4K to native 1440p.

I don't know why this upsets you so much, but if you had a 4K screen you could see it for yourself. And while 4K DLAA is indeed even better, 4K DLSS Performance is much closer in quality to 4K DLAA than it is to 1440p.

Feel free to spout some kind of cognitive dissonance or cope garbage if you want, I'll ignore your response unless it's an outright apology.

>>724167592
Yes this really was resolved much early in the thread, I know.

>>724167654
>Here's a video
A video of a fucking zoomed in still. You can't possible have missed the point of what I said that hard.
>but if you had a 4K screen you could see it for yourself.
See
>>724162789
DLSS4 looks like shit even at 4K.
>I'll ignore your response unless it's an outright apology.
That's clever. Avoid what I say about things actually in motion in a game and then make up something about me not having a 4K screen to see it for myself then preemptively excuse yourself from the argument so you don't have to deal with being wrong about both things.

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>>724167805
Post hand, Rajesh.

>>724168036
he's a Mohamed