>you've been bitten and wake up as kindred of the first clan you've ever playedHow fucked are you?
>>724142327this is fine
>>724142327BrujahI'll be fine. Especially if I can diablerize my way to Temporis.
>>724142327>werewolfcall an ambulance but not for me
>>724142327I bought this game at launch and played through the game to the best I could the dev patches that barely fixed anything.I rolled a Malk.
>>724142327i played as the gay artists. oh no, my ass is about to get ravaged haha
>>724142838
>>724142327>ToreadorI'll have a fun unlife at least.
>>724142403>>724142865based>>724142327I was a retarded edgelord and picked Gangrel because >le loner and I thought the dude's pose was cool. Guess the conversations I have with my girlfriend's cat will now be real conversations.
>>724142327>VentrueHonestly completely fucked. That is not a clan that tolerates fuck-ups and that's all I do, baby.
>>724142327I'm fucked. Damn you question sheet
>>724142327>the first clan you've ever playedThat was over 2 decades ago. I think it was Tremere.
>>724142327I turn Gangrel so i get to be both a vampire and part werewolf.
>>724142327>VentrueI'm an absolute social bungler, they would disown me or have me killed within the month.
>>724143269Not as fucked as you think, actually. As long as you can corpo-jive, you'll do fine.>You see, sir, my experience has taught me exactly what not to do and what mistakes look like. That means I know how to avoid them and suss out which members of the organization are likely to stumble into or cause mishaps. This makes me an integral part of the team, ensuring high-quality and timely results.
>>724142327>MalkShit.. Now I'll have to live knowing only I can see the real truth and everyone else is insane..
>>724142903>He jobbed to a door.Tienwolfhan bros...
>TremereEh not that bad outside of every other clan hating me and the pyramid hierarchy shit
>>724142903>>724143507if wesker can die to a door its no shame
>>724143491>>724143575These two should team up and form a new, neutral faction dedicated to advancing kindred-kind.
>>724142327>Toreador I'm going to make Anne Rice proud.
>>724142903>Stupid mutt bested by human technologyTale old as time
>>724142327I either played Malkavian or Brujah the first time a million years ago so either I go crazy or I go on a angry crusade beating up people
>>724142327>ventrueDespite being an extremely introverted person who doesn't like social interaction at allWhat the fuck was my Sire smoking when he chose me
>>724143745I only liked the first book. Writing a whole franchise about her imaginary boyfriend wasn't good reading.
>>724142327>Tremeretime to be a blood bonded drone
Let's go Brujah boys. The future is dark (bright), I got zero expectations or responsibilities, and I got a big titty communists to try to date
>ventrue>antisocial fuckup with social anxiety and no real skillsI am completly fucked
>>724142327>TremereI think I can manage. But so help me I swear I am siring Yukie
>>724144264He's sure made a bunch of tattoo shops whole sacks of cash for someone who hates capitalism so much
>>724144356>Embracing a hunter Because that's gonna end well...
>>724144094>>724144318Honestly you don't have to be in the limelight you'd just enjoy having power on some scale even from the shadows (Like Lasombra) but yeah Ventrue usually only sire people that are already highly influential or in positions of power that can be exploited so who the fuck knows what your sires plan was, not that I would know what I'm talking about, I'm Malkavian
>>724144467Beckett did it.
>>724143491>only I can see the real truthBut your mind is too scrambled to understand any of it and that's why you're getting crazier and crazier.
>>724144589And how did that turn out for him?
>>724144589Becket has plot armour due to being Cain's chosen chronicler for Gehenna, so it's really hard for him to fuck up
>>724144601DON'T CALL ME CRAZY!
>>724142327>BrujahSo do I get enhanced strength and attitude issues?
>>724144467She doesn't work for Leupold or any of the inquisitions, so even siring her wouldn't trigger any repurcussions because she's just a lone merc without any form of henchmen at her disposal like Bach has
>>724142327I don't really remember. It was probably Brujah. At least the disciplines are cool.
>>724144409you are very intelligent
>>724144863You don't need to be an Inquisitor to be a hunter. Most hunters are /x/ tier conspiritards. It's more about not giving potential enemies superpowers or having a massive masquerade violation about to happen.
>>724145103Aren't you allowed to put down your childe if they turn on you or break the Masquerade?
>>724145090you are not
>>724145090>>724145247Play nice.
just pls not nosferatu I don't want to ever be ugly
>>724145103>Most hunters are /x/ tier conspiritardsThe average /x/ user does not posses the abdominal or biceptual fortitude to lift or swing a sword, or lift anything heavier than a waifu pillow.
>>724145418If they're smart (lol) they'd never have to. Arson is one of humanity's greatest weapons against supernatrals
>>724142327>Nosferatu just kill me
>>724146054kek
>>724142403those are some shit fucking graphics lol
>>724146231The game is older than you are, give it a break.
>>724146231>those are some shit fucking graphics lol
>>724146262>>724146378still some shit fucking graphics
>>724146231gr8 b8 anon 8/8
>>724142327I'm already mentally ill, this is fine.
>>724142327>GangrelI guess I get slightly hairier and an urge to go outside more often?
>>724142327Gangrel isn't so bad.
>>724144184>Book 1: "LESTAT IS A MONSTER!">Other books: "Poor Lestat... he is actually pretty cool!"
>>724147068>the urge to go outside more oftenit truly is a curse
>>724142327Anyone play the True patch Gold for this game? Years ago I played the standard bugfix version that Wesp made but I heard even the bugfix version made unnecessary changes so I'm looking at other options for a replay.
>>724147296Isn't that the thought process of any woman when they see a serial killer or dark triad guy? it's the 'He's fucked up but I can fix him' meme.
>>724147296>Poor LestatYes. That is how fiction works, at least if you're a writer who can be swayed AT ALL by public opinion. Same thing with movies and games too. You write a villain but your audience loves him so you have to find a way to bring him back for the sequel. Resident Evil did it, The Terminator did it too.The only way to avoid this is being an absolute hardass about artistic integrity and having a SET IN STONE outline for the future of that series.
This thread needs to be saved.
>>724142327Can we be honest and admit its really overrated game?
>>724149230It's really not. The shooting sucks until you get the Aug but the katana you can get as early as Santa Monica will carry you that far anyway, and the hack and slash combat is fine.
>>724149379If you put points in firearms, the shotgun is amazing, even the SMG is a great boss killer, you just have to aim at the ground lol, I killed Ming with it.
Fuck.I am almost sure my first pick back in 2005 was a Nos, because at that point I knew essentially fuck all about VtM and Nosferatu were the only ones I knew something about via the popcultural osmosis.But the first character I've actually *beaten* the game with was a Tremere.
>>724149379>but the katana you can get as early as Santa Monicathat's only in the plus patch
>>724142327>VentrueWell if nothing else I know there's a clear structure to the world I'm getting involved in. My odds of surviving are probably better than they would be with any other clan. All I have to do is remain professional and follow orders for a while until I get the hang of thins.
I still remember playing this back in 2005 on a P3 with 512MB RAM. It was a laggy, choppy mess and every time a new zone had to be loaded I needed to wait for 2-3 mins. And I still had a blast. Modern games don't deserve such patience.
>>724149895>that's only in the plus patchbecause obviously when a guy dies you wouldn't be able to search his body afterwards in the vanilla game
>>724147348Yeah I used the TPG for a long time. It's a bit outdated at this point as it only works on Windows 7 but there's a version fixed up for Windows 10 if you want it.https://drive.google.com/file/d/1jhApzLHOp0oCSa4FWzxCvsVfivWywGM2/viewThe Unofficial Patch includes some pretty big QoL changes though like no longer getting stuck on doors and in general better game performance. Check your VtMB > bin > loader folder for vtmb-tweaks.ini for those extra fixes too. It used to come with the Unofficial Patch but it seems like the recent version of the basic patch didn't install it. I'm working on my own custom patch because even the TPG inserts some custom content and unnecessary changes although it's much milder than the UP, but it still frustrated me. Hope to be able to release it soon. Actually just keeping everything vanilla and only fixing things.
>>724150067>Modern games don't deserve such patience.I'm sure there are indian and african kids going through the same thing with winlator and modern games on their android phones. Same shit, different smell.
>>724150213Yes some enemies in the vanilla game were set to not drop their weapons on death for balance reasons.
>>724142327I'm a retard and picked nosferatu...
>>724150434Good choice.
>>724150293>for balance reasonsoh noes, teh balanz! Oh noes whad iff da player hazz funnnnn! Oh noes what if teh player gedz a viable sword early on! Oh teh horroz, teh horrorz!!!!!
>>724150626>
>>724145161Yes, and in most cases they do but that comes with it's own brand of issues>"did you hear that, x killed his childe to save his skin">"what a shitty sire... no doubt his position as a primogen should be questioned">enemies can and often will play moral high ground... as vampires but it works> even if you are influencial and powerful in certain places unless you're very covert and do it discreetly you risk a lot, especially on very specific clans like tremere where the pyramid may also intervene and question you on the why. After all then they'll ask why did you risk it especially on a hunter.
>>724150626the knife in the vanilla game was enough to carry you for a while, even just punching enemies would carry you without any points in melee if you just used blood buff. not sure why you have to get all sarcastic and retarded just because i pointed out something you mentioned is only in the plus patch because not everyone will be playing it.
>>724150797>why did you risk it especially on a hunter.for clout, duh
>>724150923>"for clout duh">elder theurge sent from vienna to check on you"Uhuh... allright then, please give your keys to your closes tremere agent and please come with us" *get retrograted and possibly turned into material for other projects on the basis you are a danger to the clan and information leaking related to thaumaturgy*
>>724151169>from viennaThe Vienna that got annihilated recently? That elder would be a pile of ash from an inquisition flamethrower
>>724146054>>724150434Why did you all fuck a Nosferatu is what I wanna know.
>TremereI honestly don't know, I'm not that deep into Vampire lore and it's been a long time since I last played VTMB. Guess I'm stuck in a big mess of hierarchies? But I can learn some nifty blood magic. Could be worse. >>724143575 knows what's up I guess, I'll just tag along with him.
i would be more fkd by who i unironically sided with >china. not even once
>>724149379Writting is good but overall story sucks. Whats with that shitty ending?
Anything but Tzimisce, right, fellas? You can't convince me that these dudes aren't the real psychos of the Camarilla
>>724151859>Tzimisce>Camarilla>or even playable
>>724151854>Whats with that shitty ending?The developers ran out of budget so they made the ending a dialogue and cutscene minimum combat section because that's easier to do than a branching role playing ame
>>724151406Depends on the timeframe.Say you're post pyramid falling, chances are, one way or another someone will get you for that kind of stuff.No as easly as the pyramid fucking you up, but much easly as making yourself a target nonetheless
>>724152846Cute
>>724149379>and the hack and slash combat is fineThe action isn't strictly terrible - very sticky, though, lots of start up and endlag on every attack and enemies just stand in place so it's really unexciting - but the third person camera is fucking abysmal, it straight up can't handle a lot of interior areas.I go firearms every playthrough but still just use a knife until shotgun because that revolver fucking stinks. You do chew through all of your money buying ammo during the "kill everyone" ending, mind.
>Ventrue Looking back they're probably the most boring clan but you get the Blade outfit and with katana is kino.Malkavian is a must for second playthrough
>>724153110Fighting clones of yourself endgame undermines the drip a bit.
>>724142327>How fucked are you?I am already gone.
>>724151532the Nossie glamours as some other non-monstrous clan for the intro then inexplicably turns Nossie once the fun police bust in your door
>>724153186I think I conciuously scrubbed my first playthrough out of my mind because I was roleplaying a charismatic ladder-climber but I ended up as LaCroix's bootlick. Also I was melee build despite Ventrue having some of the worst schools for it
>>724142327>Clan ToreadorI think I'll be happy
>>724153368I don't even remember their schools other than Domination, I think the others are objectively ass and Domination isn't even good.
>>724153368>>724154039the defenseive one is good for combat
>>724151532Don't tell me you wouldn't.
Just finished bloodlines 2. Actually not bad but giving it the bloodlines names fucked it.
>>724151532>>724154609she would be an unstopable semen draining machine
>>724154658>not badI agree, it's terrible
>>724154420Domination max just instakills any group of enemies, everyone being dead is a pretty good defense. I don't think you really get the XP to max out two schools, is the thing, on top of a combat and navigation skills, so it just makes sense to solely bullrush the best one and ignore the other two.
>>724154721For a story driven walking sim it was alright.
>>724154726I never played Ventrue, but does it work on really strong enemies? I'd think you would get more mileage of the defensive one because it lasts longer and works against every attack.
>>724142327>Brujah>Killing punches
>>724154820It's bad even as a walking sim, a good walking sim has you going interesting new places or meeting new npcs all the time, this has you going back and forth the same places and same people for hours, it's like a sisyphean punishment for the player.
>>724142327>noswow nothing changed
If only there had been a tzimeche origin.
>>724154840Anything but bosses.True that the defensive one would be more useful there, but the bosses in this game aren't much of anything and Domination pulls double duty on stealth, trancing everyone and everything to run through them. And it's still not good. It's no Celerity. Or anything the Tremere get.
>>724155045Tzimisce.Kurwa.Tzimisce.
>>724155026>malk
>>724155123if you are a girl, we can be the average Slavic couple
>>724155075Ventrue Domination also works in dialogue, level 3 lets you get almost the same use out of it in dialogue as persuasion does but you can also use it in combat.>CeleritySounded cool in theory but it ends up making the game feel slow to play and I generally avoid it. I kind of wish it had an option to just make you faster instead of making everything else slower.
>>724155246To everyone's dismay, I am a guy :-(
>>724153368venture was my second run and lacroixmaxxed for shits and giggles. dying like a retarded henchman together with his master was kinda kino.
>>724155357Not that anon but, nothing some good ole vicissitude can't fix :DMake sure to pick your tzimi surgeon well, they may give you more than you bargained for like it's win 11
>>724155346It might not be good if you're running melee. With guns, Celerity is just the "I win" button for those two clans, turns everything in sight into a sitting duck.
Join House Tremere and get your Pyramid-sponsored gargoyle waifu today!You even get to customize her behavior and looks!
>>724155492Ew no, a Tzimisce is going to give you the screaming face of Ronald Reagan as a clitoris because they're bored.
>>724155513Great! Where do i sign up?
>>724155513I like this
>>724142327Ventrue. I think I'll make it, until I don't.
>malkavian>first playthrough consisted of playing intentionally mad while sometimes fighting the crazy, while also throwing a once in a while "huh, I see...-I mean HeS In ThE GoDaM WALLZ" Then just game bot camarilla and anarchs agains each other while piecing it togheter becket was hidding something, there was a big reason why he dipped the sarchophagous and that malk girl on the bitch foreshadowing everythingMinus the once in a while psychosis I should be fine. I allready min max irl...
>>724155357if you troon out, we can be average American couple and adopt three dog
>>724155706Unless you're literally Patrick Bateman I feel like the only reason you'd get turned is because the vent in question got too horny and made a mistake. And the Ventrue cover up their mistakes harder than a fat bitch covers her second chin in a selfie.
>>724155889>the only reason you'd get turned is because the vent in question got too horny and made a mistakeisn't that the opening of VTMB1 tho?
>>724155591Depends, vampires are not pure ass stereotypes, for the right price and reasons there are some that will do it.Fucking over clients entails sabbath, camarilla and even individuals coming after your skin. Some tzimi are crazy, some are more pragmatic about it.
>>724155780post reads like you've already got the psychosis down too
>>724155958Yeah, but the rest of the opening involves the sire immediately dying and a miracle of political circumstance for the player to not die immediately too.Which if they'd just left it like 2 hours a Ventrue probably would've knocked you off anyway. How'd Lacroix even catch the banging and siring that quick.
>>724142327Blood magic! Yeah!
>>724155513kys slopfag
>>724156178you can see the Asylum through the window in the opening so Tung or Therese probably snitched on your sire (who couldn't have been that popular since nobody seems to care or ever brings them up again)
>>724156313All artists will starve
>>724146231>muh gwaphicsthis shit is the reason why a new gpu releases around the same time as a new cod would
>>724155513Shit, nigga, that's all you had to say!
>>724156323And if you are a Tremere, you were most likely ratted out by Strauss himself.
>>724155958>>724156178It was a set up, Lacroix said he would give permission to your Sire, but he wanted an excuse to destroy him and a new errand boy.
>>724142327Thos game is great and is really enjoyable except for combat. It's some of the worst combat I've seen in an game. It's literally built around bunny hopping or glitching your enemy out so they end up doing the "one legged" cripple dance. While trying to chase you. What the fuck were they thinking with this shit?
>>724156642>and a new errand boy.Given that LaCroix is passively trying to kill you for 90% of the game, I don't think he cared much about you being his errand boy.
Every playthrough:>get to sewers>~ noclip on>fly to exit>~ noclip off
>>724156642>Camarilla leaders can just backstab people like that, executem and no one even bothers investigating itNo wonder Anarchs are a thing.
>>724156976Camarilla is a Cartel with more blood involved.
>>724156787Setting you up as the scapegoat for Nines was outright weird when he's outright thrilled to have an errand boy that actually gets shit done until then. You see him dressing down his elder vampire council, he's not polite for the sake of it, but he's all about borderline grooming you and giving you a bunch of free shit when you get results.
>>724156973This but the werewolf part.I still have no idea how you were supposed to survive for 3 minutes when he can outrun you and stealth doesnt work
>>724156973Anon I just glitch through the surface door in the cemetery
Who you gonna ghoul?
>>724156973>>724157282I like shooting shit with my malk, I enjoy the zombie sections as well.
>>724157150 It's a puzzle boss that you need to kill
>>724157323Someone with access to lots of blood bags, ghouls can be so useful.
>>724157375Did they rip the night elf armour design off of this or the other way around?
>>724157375> I enjoy the zombie sections as well.you really are a malk
>>724157150I survived and had no idea about the door.Git gud.
>>724157323Feel like bloodbank manager is the obvious play but I also feel like they'd have EVERY vampire trying to ghoul them and would just turn around and start selling the bags instead. I guess that just happens in VTMB. Probably a cop otherwise. Gets people off my case, well paid, easy reports on any potential vamps in the area that I need to be aware of because they're notoriously territorial and like killing competition.
>>724142327MALKAVIAN BROS
>>724157598I've no idea what the souce is.
>>724157671I survived by figuring out to use the door with two minutes to spare, was pretty proud if myself.
>GangrelI like the idea of slashing people with giant fuck off claws like im the MC from prototype.
>>724157712>>Feel like bloodbank manager is the obvious play but I also feel like they'd have EVERY vampire trying to ghoul them and would just turn around and start selling the bags instead. I guess that just happens in VTMB.More likely he's a ghoul protected by a powerful vampire.
>>724142327>toreadorgetting so much pussy bros
>>724157804Malkavian is woman coded, anonI'd be very careful now...
>>724142327What a dumb thread how am I supposed to remember which clan I played 8 years ago.
>>724142327Ventrue. Unfortunately I'm socially autistic.
>>724158051How can you not remember? Did you even finish it?
>>724157323So what's the difference between a ghoul and a blood doll? Or are they just the different names for the same thing?
>>724142895Same, the description sounded like it was a social build and I wanted to influence people>>724156973This, except I also add the Chinese Temple and the final level to my noclipping. They're slogs. Completely unfun.
>>724158051You never remember your first, anon.Think.
>>724158347forget***FUCKE
>>724158185Blood Dolls are just sluts who like getting their blood drank. Ghouls are fed vampire blood in return for their services and get a whole host of perks out of the situation.Being a ghoul is tight as long as you're useful. Being a blood doll is just sad.
>>724156035Ironically enough, kek.Never knew the malkavian grindset would help irl
>>724158051I remember it vividly, I can't possibly forget playing Malkavian for my first playthrough.
>>724142327>ToreadorDoes this mean I'm going to go on rants about how vidya is art?
>>724143447I was gangrel. I didn't even know I could use Malkavian\Venture disciplines in the dialogue until I finished the game weeks later.
>>724142327First clan? I played as that fucking charisma heavy Toreador because that's just OP in World of Darkness. I think I'm set for being a gigachad.
>>724158595>Toreador>Malkavian>BrujahKino shit
>>724142327>TremereI think I'm all right though I'm not sure what kind of state the clan is in at this point.
>wake up>hear voices>feel the need to speak in medieval tongues>Mfw everything is the same, except the sun kills me now
>>724158848In Vampire The Masquerade they are present but not that important of a clan. We aren't talking new content here if we go by old game's lore and its links straight back to oWoD.
>toreador
>>724158962You are Malkavian aintcha? That sucks a whole lot of fish dicks. Terribly sorry about your lunacy bro.
>>724150242>I'm working on my own custom patch because even the TPG inserts some custom content and unnecessary changes although it's much milder than the UP, but it still frustrated me. Hope to be able to release it soon. Actually just keeping everything vanilla and only fixing things.Good luck.
>>724159078Worrieth not for mine health, lurgyman, though thou ought best checketh thine prostate, overgroweth.
>>724157712The problem with a cop is that you can't just quit and rejoin the force when it's obvious you're not aging after 20-30 years. They have a hard expiry date and ghouls don't just go quietly, you need to make them disappear if you're done using them, which is... problematic, because they're cops. Same problem with doctors. Hence the only vampire clued in doc in VTMB is exactly the one type of doc every vampire wants to be best friends with.You probably just want a Mercurio. Someone good at getting connections but isn't really formerly tied to any organization and is as comfortable working in the shadows as you are. Can keep you just as informed of any potential Sabbat bullshit that needs taking care of as a cop can and is better at arming you.Or maybe just like a decent investment guy since that's not really a formal thing either and can fund your NEET bullshit life in exchange for eternal youth and vigor, which most investment guys are very fond of, very easy sell on that one. Or both. I don't think there's really a limit on how many ghouls you can have, they're just mildly annoying.
>>724158424Wouldn't keeping blood dolls around be a Masquerade violation? What if they gossip?
I wanna play on my tv, are there any mods that make the font bigger at 4k resolution
>>724143926>>human technologyIt's magic
>>724142327>VentrueI'm alright.
>>724159651If you have a ghoul cop, just have them fake their death at some point or be involved in a crime that takes their badge away but is not too horrific (excessive force on a criminal, they get discharged and now they join some secret mafia network instead.)
>>724159704Yeah there's a whole quest in VTMB about taking out a gossipy doll and what a bad idea it is. Otherwise, like ghouls, you can do it if you want to, but they're your responsibility now. Make a bad choice and you gotta take them out - and worse, other vamps are going to judge you for having shitty taste.
>>724142327>ToreadorI fell for the charisma-based social roleplaying, because it was popular in Arcanum, Fallouts and other trpgs. It was fine, till Hollywood, till the sewer tunnels. I just wanted to talk my way out of troubles. And now, I likely have STD. But my sire (lady-sire) is probably a hottie so I am happy I can simp for her for whole eternity.
>>724157150Just use celebrity bro.
>TremereHell yeah
>>724160209>lady-sireUh-huh, sure, Torry boy.
>>724160209>he entered the sewer tunnels without blood packs or weapon skills
>>724160209STDs don't seem to affect vampires, they don't have blood that could be infected.
>>724142327>GangrelCould be worse. They were boring in Bloodlines (animalism might be fun but I did protean instead which kinda sucked) but in terms of the TTRPG there's a good spread of disciplines and my sire at least won't use me in some scheme I have no chance of surviving, although I'll probably die because I committed some faux pas my sire didn't tell me about because he fucked off. At least I'm not a brujah or a nosferatu. If I could choose I'd choose Ventrue or Tremere but I'm too much of a loser to actually survive in that kind of place.This reminds me, why the fuck aren't the gangrel in VTMB2? They wanted to make a stealth action game and they didn't include the clan which has protean, a perfect discipline for someone who only uses their own body in combat. They could add claws, shapeshifting, mist form, melding into the earth for stealth/healing... it's the perfect discipline for the game they made... It's also perfect for a character who calls themselves "the nomad" who apparently values independence.
>>724142327malk was the first for mepicked it manually though, i don't trust tests
>>724160646The plaguebearers would like to have a talk with you
>>724156313Toreador melty
>>724144356>posts my screenshot>also a House & Clan enjoyerare you my homunculus?
>>724160373I am old, anon, I played it first time in January 2005, because everybody and their grandma wanted Half-Life2, so this game bomb in the Christmas market, and ended up in sale bin of local store. Teen me obviously succumbed to the marketing of the cover picture, Jeanette had a pull, and then I suddenly got sick and couldn't go to school for a week (not sick enough to not play, obviously). Back then I wasn't even allowed to go on internet, so no guides what should I do in the tunnels. Also my first ending was Ming Xiao, because the temple was bugged and it wasn't possible to complete any ending that would require you to go against the Kuei-jin. It helped me to stop my wapanese ways during my formative years.
>>724160659Nozzies and Brujah are pretty good at taking care of their own and are probably unironically the best choice for the asocial losers on this board, even if ones annoying and the other is ugly and annoying.
>>724160882My impression was that Brujah was one of the most ill disciplined clans. You're right about the nosferatu though. They'll probably be disappointed in me though since I am a tech dork but I don't actually know much about computers outside of my fairly narrow field of expertise which would be useless to them because vampires probably don't use azure. Spying on people with animalism and obfuscate sounds like fun though. Wouldn't want to live in the sewers though. That's no fun at all.
>>724160716No, I merely diablerized you.
>>724142327>VentrueI'm not very charismatic but I think I'll be fine.
>>724144467yeah? VTM: Redemption's protagonist was a hunter and after the embrace he became an unstoppable killing machine that goes toe to toe against elders, a member of the council of 7 from house tremere and even destroys a methuselah final bossALWAYS embrace the greatest humans you can
Way too many of you picked Malk on first run. Its much more fun for a 2nd run when you realize what most of the dialogue actually means.
>>724161262>My impression was that Brujah was one of the most ill disciplined clansExactly, you can be a useless screwup and they're still totally fine with you.
>>724161607People always say that but I don't think it's true. If you're familiar with VTM as a setting and are willing to pay attention you can try and discern things about the story from the ramblings which would be a lot of fun as well
>>724161607and you know how we found that out? by playing malk first 20+ years ago
>>724142327>TremereUnless the local chantry is a total shithole I'll probably be fine for a while, but long term I don't think I'm politically conscious or paranoid enough to avoid getting fucked in the ass by pyramid politics so I probably end up forever stuck as some stifled middle management nothingness.
>>724161607isn't foreshadowing better without context? I can't imagine being a first time player and constantly reading Jack as "Jack-In-The-Box" only to get to the ending and connecting the dots, seems like a very unique experience that can't be replicated
>>724158416>>724158347>Spelling error>yfw
>>724161623And that isn't good. I want to be a nice camerilla aligned vampire with a nice white collar job that rarely and ideally never involves running the risk of final death. Being stuck at a bar feeding on scraps and/or being roped into being a footsoldier for bullshit sucks.
>>724161445Ventrue aren't all charismatic, you can just be the pretend-chivalrous dude bro who gets upset at injustice or someone breaking the masquerade, very Ventrue-like.
>>724162008I mean if you're good at making money you'll do really well no matter what clan you're in - apart from the Gangrels who don't care I guess - but otherwise you'll be doing all the same shit the Anarchs do but getting dressed down every time someone else makes a screwup and used as an expendable pawn by anyone who feels they can make a penny off your death. Lacroix sets you up to die multiple times just because it was more convenient than having you alive.
>>724142327>Toreador>I'M FAST AS FUCK BOY
>>724161607>he didn't experience the pure ludonarrative consistency of Malk first blind playthrough in his lifeI pity you, my friend.
>>724161731That's reasonable, there's a good bit of dialogue though that feels good when you see it and you can decipher what's just random madness and what's prophesizing the future. That said I can understand why this would be fun first time when it all sounds like madness. >>724161756Completely fair. >>724161907Also fair, why is this thread so reasonable? I'm not used to this. That's a good example you bring up. I still think it works better as a 2nd or later playthrough. Granted they all have their own little things but Malk has the most unique interactions and extra moments. Really feels good when you're going through 2nd time and seeing just how different Malk plays to the others.
>>724143269>No Ventrue sirefu that loves you as much as a bloodsucker can despite what a fuckup you are
>high humanity (mainly) melee malekavianOnwards to adventure, Chivarly calls
>>724142327>ventrueI don't care about all this crap, get me out of herehttps://youtu.be/KvknOXGPzCQ
>>724163074THIS!I liked to use the arm :DDCaptcha: KYSXY, whatever that means. I am gone!
>>724161607>mostIt's far from "most" of the dialogue only being something you'd understand on your second run. There really isn't the overwhelming amount of foreshadowing that people make it out to be. Malkavian is still fun your first time and feeling a bit lost adds to the atmosphere and is fitting for the Malkavian stuff being a curse instead of just a psychic superpower.
>>724142327>ToreadorI mean, I'm quite literally fucked regardless because I live in WoD but at least I get to be a hot vampire.
>>724162714>I still think it works better as a 2nd or later playthrough.I'd say it's just different rather than better. I played Malk first and loved it so much I started a new game soon after as Malk again. It is neat seeing all the hints in dialogue but I still remember how I felt playing Malk first close to 20 years ago and just how great it was. Not to mention Dementation and Obfuscate just being fun to use.
>all of this supernatural shit>humans still curbstomping because of how many there are and glowie organizations
>>724164061>Humans>CurbstompingI wouldn't call the Technocracy or Pentex "human"
>>724155513holy fuck i'm startin a Tremere run right now.
>>724163846I can agree on that, Malk was easily my favorite campaign as well so that may be why I'm feeling that "you should play it this way for the most fun" but again what you're saying is making sense. Great game.
>>724142327>in vtmbToreador? Zero complaints.>on the tabletopLasombra. Obtenebration is cool, but I just hope my sire isn't an asshole and being Sabbat isn't too much on me.
>>724157150Oh i just beat him with five ranks in Protean.
>>724164061Yes, humans are very dangerous, that's why there's this whole thing called "the masquerade" that prevents them from just bombing your shit and calling it a day.
>>724164104>the TechnocracyMages are human though. Especially the technocrats, whose whole thing is to protect the sleepers.
The only good thing about bloodlines 2 is that it made a lot of people play the first one.Been a while since ive seen so many vtmb threads
>>724164560>Literal globohohomo world order>Wanting to help people
>>724164732I finished 2 and I'm going to play 1 again after years to feel the contrast.
>>724164560Mages (proper Awakened mages, not counting hedgies) don't count as human to hunter powers.
>>724142327And I am a god damn Malcavian too. HAHAHAHAHA.
>>724142327Being a Ventrue Chad feelsgoodman.
>>724164797They want human homoglobo. Not vampire hemoglobo nor werewolf homotribalism.
>>724143926>>724159864How can you regenerate being constantly crushed? It's like being thrown to a volcano and hope your regeneration will save you.
>>724165135>It's like being thrown to a volcano and hope your regeneration will save youIf your regeneration cant keep you alive in a horrible purgatory state it isn't real regeneration.
>>724142327>ToreadorWhat do they even do, exactly?I know their whole shtick is being artsy and shit, but what's their actual role in kindred society?Ventrue already fulfill the "fancy nobility" archetype, and they are the ones running the show (mostly), so Toreador just seemed like diet Ventrue to me.
>>724165684They're just the ventrue for anarchs because the brujah haven't had their shit together since like 1600 AD.
>>724164797>you vill take life-saving medicine instead of relying on thoughts and prayers>you vill have an abundance of food instead of begging shamans for rain>you vill live in safety and comfort>you vill enjoy the fruits of civilization to the greatest extent possible>you vill ascend (eventually) (trust the plan)>and you vill be happy-ish>>724164857But awakening is something any human is inherently capable of. It's true that mages are not the exact same as a baseline human but there is nothing invasive or foreign about the avatar. They are humans who are on the next stage towards achieving their full potential
>>724165684The Harpy (aka the professional snippy little bitch) of the domain will usually be a Toreador.
>>724166247>happy-ishkek
>GangrelCan i turnto into any animal or is it just a werewolf lite?Also, the MC being a lone worlf is suicide. They have no sire, no partners to back them up and by the end of the game youre on the shitlist of 3-4 major facitions. Realistically you shouldnt survive for a week after going full loner.
>>724166862originally it was wolf and bat iirc, but i think with the subsequent editions you can pretty much choose whatever animal you want
>>724166862Wolf and bat are the defaults but you can pick any two so long as they keep to the theme of 'fight or flight'.
>>724166862at Protean 3 " The vampire can only change into one type of animal (usually a wolf, sometimes a large feline or a giant snake), usually one associated with their clan or the type of prey they most commonly feed on."After that you can turn into basically anything, including swarms
>>724167243For me? it's elephant and cockatoo
>tfw bloodlines 2 being a flop killed this franchise for good and we will never get another vampire RPG again
>>724165684Fancy socialite. Keeper of Elysium or harpy in a camerilla city. They are more free spirited in terms of clan hierarchy but also in terms of who gets embraced. You can come up with a character who is basically ventrue lite because they are a genteel vampire that doesn't have to meet the high standards of an actual ventrue. But really, while ventrue are about power and control, toreador are about chasing trends and falling in love with things.
>>724165684Toreador are the bards of VTM.
>>724164104The Inquisition literally scared vampires so bad they established the masquerade
>>724167658It's for the best, all the recent editions of WoD games have been terrible, so it stands to reason all the official games will probably be pretty bad as well.
>>724164797Sorry Tradcuckie, you won't be turning sleepers into furniture for shits and giggles
>>724168102Wasn't the masquerade always a thing? I thought it was just a codification of an inherent instinct. As in, vampires always have an instinct to conceal their nature, but it's all about themselves. The masquerade is just that but for vampires writ large.
>>724164560In the beginning, when it was the "Order of Reason", sure. Absolutely. But the point of the Technocracy is that it massively diverted from its own original goals, which seems less and less attainable by the years, and is now a bloated, corrupted, corrupting, soulless megacorp. Without going into stuff like entire divisions of the technocracy being in space being corrupted by space satan (with no one being the wiser) and doing who the fuck knows what
>>724161607nah man, i picked malk first without knowing shit about wod and it was great, most legit insane person experiencei can't even play normal clans though, just plain boring tbqh
>>724163074You just need to go Path of Honorable Accord as well
>>724142327>GangrelFinally, I can just go in the woods and leave all this behind.
>>724167658As opposed to what. In the years between VTMB1 and 2 we didn't get anything equal to VTMB1 anyways.
>>724168303Traditions acted as something close to The Masquerade but certain clans didn't really give a shit about it so more people knew about vampires. Once Rome found out about vampires and went TVD they became more strict on secrecy
>>724168307>Without going into stuff like entire divisions of the technocracy being in space being corrupted by space satan (with no one being the wiser) and doing who the fuck knows whatThe void engineers are fighting Threat Null, but regardless it's not exactly the technocracy's fault. The Syndicate's special projects division would be a better example because they are consorting with the wyrm because it makes the numbers go up>Technocracy is that it massively diverted from its own original goals, which seems less and less attainable by the yearsThat depends on how you play it. You could say that they are losing ground because of an anti-intellectual, anti-science turn in culture and the re-emergence of all sorts of traditionalist bullshit that they thought they buried from vaccine skepticism to new age stuff gaining popularity and of course them getting fucked from the avatar storm. But even if you take a very negative view of them they are still largely in charge and largely in control, and their goal remains the same. Create a consensus reality that's generally free from supernatural terrors and create a steady march of progress where science and technology improve the lives of average people and that has never changed. >a bloated, corrupted, corrupting, soulless megacorpKinda, but again it depends on how you want to spin it. The convention books play into that as well. I remember the NWO one (or maybe iteration X) say something like "you may have heard horror stories about brainwashing and behavior chips but that's mostly just traditionalist propaganda". The revised books also present a more idealistic view. from the progentiors revised book:>The Technocracy is sick.Look at the Union. The Dimensional Anomaly didn’t just cut us off at the metaphorical head; it left infections in our body politic...Yes, the Technocracy is sick. But we’re here to make it better. Not just well, but better than it was.
>>724156973I did the sewers first playthrough and it wasn't that bad.
>>724169591Don't you have some reality deviants to hunt down techfags
>>724170984It's pretty bad if you have zero combat skills, which a lot of people did. If you have any combat skills, the games a bit of a pushover.
>>724144356Is there a modpack that enhances all player 3D models?
>>724170984it's just badly announced, it comes from nowhere, no one tells you it's a hour long gauntlet, and if you go unprepared it's a bitchass pain in the ass no other thing in the game close to compare tobut when I replay it I always go through the sewers, it's a good check on your character skills, it honestly just lacks an artifact to make it really worthwhile like the artifact you can get in the Ocean House hostel
>>724142327Toreadorif I can't get any in life, at least I can get plenty in undeath
>>724171709The one the Unofficial Patch keeps fucking with? Honestly, what a dogshit series of balance changes.
>malkthat is fitting for me. As I aged I slowly evolved into a schizophernic so it would feel natural. Maybe better as I could vanish like a ghost and spread my gnosis to the human cattle.
>>724171868What, the Unofficial Patch changes the artifact in the Ocean House? Why? Why the fuck?Sure it's the absolute top of missable content, it's extremely well hidden in a timed section and 90% of players won't get it, but why change it
>>724171709>no one tells you it's a hour long gauntletThe first time I got to it I thought it was a mistake. Like I stumbled upon a part of the game I wasn't supposed to be in yet. Thank God I was melee and could eat rats, because I would've been fucked.
>>724172070Because they just keep fucking with stuff. It's not like they just move it out of Ocean House, either, it just keeps moving around the place. Last playthrough they switched it out with some worse artifact and then put that in a different room. Like that matters.Unofficial Patch is the epitome of changing shit for the sake of it. But everyone knows that.
>>724144482i'm pretty good at managing people and large groups/projects as long as i don't have to do it in person
>>724161607I found it pretty easy to decipher all the bullshit my character was talking after realising it was foreshadowing desu, I thought it was more fun because I actually had to think about what they might be implying.
I fart on the face of the Cammies.
>>724145247I think you're the smartest person in this thread, your life, and quite possibly the entire world. That you've gone outside to see that is!LOL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
>>724160209You get Celerity, that and a few good weapons make you unstoppable.I also chose Toreador as my first, and since you never meet a Camarilla Toreador it made it a lot easier to side with the Anarchs. Isaac is a bit of a prick but he's old and in Hollywood, so it makes sense. Ash is a bit of a crybaby bitch boy, but I think that speaks to the humanity he still has within him. VV is hot. That and Damsel's damsels meant LaCroix never had a chance.
>>724145090You can still get/do tattoos for free, though, that's what happens in prison. Capitalism actually allows to live outside it, if you want, like the Amish or the kibbutz.I doubt his tattoos were free. And tattoos aren't exactly the same as the comic you're quoting, a peasant doing menial break-backing labor to survive. Those are tattoos.
>>724172536I wonder which Laibon legacy these two would be embraced by.
>>724172536so sabbath xdddcome to romania )))
>>724167658We'll probably get more Janky AA visual novels.
>>724155513I thought the gargoyles rebelled?
I've been playing Tremere and so far every bossfight has been stunning, running around spamming Blood Strike, repeat, heal as necessary.Will a character with Thaumaturgy 5 but no combat skills eat shit in the sewers?
>>724155045>tzimeche
>>724157323Would it be shitty to ghoul/embrace your friends?
>>724173219Yes but being shitty has never stopped anyone from doing anything.
>>724142327>VentrueI don't know about you, but none of you are waking up tomorrow cause blood magic and whatnot.
>>724169591>The void engineers are fighting Threat Null, but regardless it's not exactly the technocracy's fault.The void engineers are unironically the only division of the Technocracy that isn't a bloated corrupt mess, and that's because they've been fighting space demons for decades.>Syndie on a private jet, getting a blowjob from a cute blonde girl while snorting coke>Call comes through on his solid gold iPhone.>"I'll get the call. Suck harder, dear.">Blonde sucks harder.>He frowns as the videocall goes through. Dudes in power armors are fighting evil aliens in the Deimos the moon of Pluto, two dudes are being butchered in the front, gunfire everywhere>"WE NEED REINFORCEMENT! WE ARE PINNED THERE!">Syndie sighs, close the call.>A well dressed buttler comes.>"Something important, sire?">Syndie dude comes in the blonde's mouth. "Not really, just the same old."
>>724173219Ghouling is basically permanent unless you want to let them age and die, it's somewhere between marrying your friend and making them a pet. Sounds like an awful idea.
>>724173219Depends on the friend. If they have a family you probably wouldn't want to take that away from them with an embrace. Ghouling could be cool though, if they have useful skills anyways. Otherwise it is much better to let go of your former life as soon as possible so it doesn't become a problem.
>>724173482>>724173575I think I'd just be scared of doing the whole vampire thing alone. How do the factions handle your embrace anyway, fake your death?
How do I get the hidden ending where my character diablerizes Damsel's big pale vampire milkers?
>>724173479oddly penis fixated post
if i want to play tabletop what version should i go with?also can someone give me a tldr of what's bad about V5 beside rudy/woke?
>>724173887Technocrat glowies inserting subliminal dick sucking propaganda to bend the gestalt consciousness of the sleepers toward their agenda of getting their dicks sucked on a plane
>>724173872Play the sabbat path
>>724172337I got the latest patch and there is still no artificat in the Ocean House. There is a skill book instead, which is cool and all but it is crazy to see what is different from the last time you play every single time you play.Like he added back, "Smaller God," to the beach after years of complaining about it being removed...but you can only hear it if you are right in front of the little boombox instead of hearing it throughout the beach. It feels like a change he made almost as a "fuck you" to people who asked for it to be added back. It is back, but only technically.
>>724173953V20.V5 is just stupid as far as lore goes, ignores a lot of stuff from previous additions, and just doesn't have the same feel as older versions.
>>724174038is that the plus patch or basic?
>>724174297Plus Patch.
ZAMN, that lumbar curve
>>724142327I don't know the lore that well.What are Tremere's downsides? Are the fake mages because I think that was the point? For mages to become vampires, but then does mage power pass down?
>>724171382god I wish. In reality I'm too low IQ and incompetent to be a technocrat. >>724173479>Please sir we just need a small research grant of 420 billion dollars to save humanity or somethingmeanwhile Iteration X and the progenitors are making things that actually benefit humanity and the Syndicate keeps sleeper society steady and makes sure everyone can afford everything they need to build their fancy toys
>>724174442well it is pretty much his personal playground at this point
ZAMN, that gap
>>724174650>What are Tremere's downsides?varies across editions but generally weaker blood i.e either more vulnerable to blood bonds or can't blood bond
>>724142327>ToreadorI'll be fine, probably more than fine
>>724174650In lore, they are easier to Bloodbond, are made to drink a mixture of all of the high-ups vitae to start(but not complete) the bloodline which still makes them more loyal. They are also not trusted among other clans.At one point a long time ago the people who would become Tremere were mages, but once they managed to complete their ritual to become vampires it turns out they lost access to all of their magic. So they had to create a new, weaker form of magic, Blood Magic or Thaumaturgy. Then, in order to become a real clan their main guy diablerized(that means draining a vampire of all of their blood and their soul) one of the kindest of the Antedilluvians, Saulot. They then started an information campaign to make the Salubri look like they were demonic soul stealers. This worked well and in modern times the Salubri barely exist at all, and are only a bloodline rather than a clan since they lack an Antedilluvian.
>>724173219Isn't that a masquerade breach?
>>724174650Tremeres were mages who went "no, fuck magic, it's getting out of style anyway, we'll drink blood instead" and became vampires, losing their magic in the process, as they are no longer human. The Tremere boss then diablerized (i.e eat the soul) of an Antedeluvian to get more powerful, and then systematically erased the genocided of that Antedeluvian. Then they started stealing vampire magic from everyone else, and killing everyone who knew more vampire magic than them (this includes Tzimische, Assamites, Setites, etc). Then they told everyone they were the only real clan to know vampire magic, as they killed everyone else who knew it.As a Tremere, you're mind controlled by the other Tremere to do Tremere thing, it's called the Pyramid. The mind control has been going on for so long the clan has a weakness to mind control, which is kind of their clan curse.
>>724173479>Zey called about zeir funding?>Dump et
>>724157150It got stuck somewhere on my playthrough and I just didn't move for fear of it getting unstuck and that's how I won
>>724175132>>724175185Didn't eating Saulot result in the Tremere "Antediluvian" being in an eternal battle for his own soul or something? Like isn't the guy catatonic as we speak.
>>724157150There are of course the various rooms in the observatory you can hide in for a bit before he breaks down the doors. Then there is killing him with a door. You can also outpace him with Celerity. Then the final, coolest way is to kill him using your strongest abilities.
Since vampires turn to dust when they die and you cant do an autopsy on that, couldnt Lacroix just sent his pet gorilla to kill your at any point in the game and then claim the sabbat did it?
>>724175446Yeah it didn't go well. Also, as part of their transformation into vampires they used Tzimesce vitae, which meant Tremere was also dealing the Tzimesce Ante trying to take over his form. He turned into a big worm at one point.
>>724175132Why where they so pissed at the Salubri?Aren't they the only vampires who go 'ya know what? Maybe it's not a great idea to be on God's shitlist"?
>>724175592His gorilla is not exactly built for stealth. He is pretty noticeable, and LaCroix seems to keep him close at all times for his protection.
Can I play werewolves in this game?
>>724175701The Salubri knew what the Tremere had done, and Diablerie has always been looked down on in polite vampire society.
>>724175895No
>>724175932Damn. That would have been cool. There are no good werewolf games.
Difficult to find sustenance. Much worse than depicted in the game. But then lots of new opportunities too.
>>724176041You can always play that one WtA game but it's not that good
I wouldn't need the internet anymore. I'd have all my bros in our own private net in our minds.
>>724143269>>724143467>>724144094>>724144318You haven't gotten it from the test, have you.
>>724173219>Wanting to turn your friends into literal parasites unable to interact with the normal world and their past lifeYou are not their friend
just started playing this game last nighti got some red haired girl to live in my apartment and i treat her like shit and made her wear only underwearkino game
>>724147373The true horror is that the women predisposed to be like that weren't aggressively enough selected out of the gene pool by such men.
>>724161607It was fun sifting all the bullshit and figuring out what everything is supposed to mean and what my character intends to sayI got Malkavian through the personality quiz and I don't regret playing him first.
>>724150293You get the axe very early too and it's powerful enough to rival the sword.>>724150242Make sure to link your thing somewhere after you're done so you don't have to rely on 4chan threads and possibly word of mouth for it to stay afloat.
>>724173953V20 mainly.V5 is an attempt at making complicated or complex mechanics and lore more beginner friendly.In turn it lobotomises the main theme and system. Even the lore is intentionally fucked and too ambiguous.
>>724151406Bloodlines is forever stuck on the cusp of Gehenna. Don't mention the cancer.
>>724142327>toreadorbased
>>724154840Unless UP changed that a lot, supernaturals only have a chance to instantly die. I don't remember how it works in unmodified game.
>>724175895No, play Earthblood instead
>>724142327It's over.
>>724173953V20. Just keep in mind - the corebook is a fucking brick. People like V20 because it's comprehensive and flexible, all in one book, but the downside is that the book in question is a fucking brick.>>724176565>V5 is an attempt at making complicated or complex mechanics and lore more beginner friendly.And the joke is that previous editions, be it 2e, V20 or Revised aren't really THAT complex or hard to learn. So what we are ending up with is system so braindead you are starting to think what's the point.During my time playing Revised, I got to play VtM at parties with people absolutely unfamilliar with the system and they figured out most of the rules in about half an hour. While drunk. So, VtM didn't have difficult systems to begin with.
>>724142327>gangrelsounds pretty based to me, hanging out with animal bros in between blood snacks
>>724142327>nossieit's an improvement
>NosferatuCUT MY LIFE IN TO PIECES
What's your favorite location/time period for vampire?
>>724166862>by the end of the game youre on the shitlist of 3-4 major facitionsThe realistically possible endings include Sabbat being largely kicked out of the vicinity and Kue-jin being completely non-existent on the coast. Even if you were a dick to Anarchs but didn't actually do anything bad to them, they won't care. Camarilla would keep tabs on you in case someone (like a new prince) needs an asset outside of the usual means and rosters. It's far from being as bleak as you're painting.Your primary problems will probably be randomly running into Garou, and maybe also the Society causing some trouble in case Bach had enough time to leave notes.
>>724177221>randomly running into garouisn't that a pretty low chance to run into their territory?
>>724168307>space satanIsn't it just an outsider or whatever those things are called? Don't remember much about that now. Either way, if they had the Namaru working on them they'd be in properly deep trouble.
>>724142327Bloodlines I played Toreador I think, but I have played tabletop before and I'm pretty sure my first character ever was Assamite.Not the worst either way I suppose.
>>724177438er low chance to run into them when not going into their territory*
>>724177501Anon they have one of the worst curses of all. They slowly turn black.
>>724177157>Ancient Rome>Victorian England>1990s America
>>724142327gangrelI go on a road trip and hang out with werewolves or something
>>724171709In retrospect the sewers make sense. You've seen all kinds of dangerous supernaturals until that point and now you're going into abandoned, pre-modern city sewers. What else is going to be there, free candy?
>>724177221I dodn't think Bach would bother noticing some random vampire when the guy he was literally obsessed with was in town. Still, I'd be worried if the SoL put an auto-da-fé on me.
>>724166862>no partners to back them upExcept the big daddy himself
>And you're a goddamn Malkavian too. Wow, you really are fucked.Don't pray for me boys, I'm too far gone.
>>724177749Anon, you do NOT want to have anything to do with Caine
>>724175592Everyones watching eachother waiting for the right moment to murder anyone standing in their way or hoping for even a sliver of dirt to fuck them over with. I doubt it would be that easy.
>>724173819>How do the factions handle your embrace anyway, fake your death?Varies a lot. Depends on the faction and political circumstances.For example if you are embraced as a rich Ventrue/Lasombra you are more likely to keep your mortal identity so your sire can get the most out of you.
>>724142327BRRRUJAH!
>>724177649Nice.
>>724175592>Since vampires turn to dust when they dieThey turn into whatever state you would've been in at the time of your deathIf you were embraced 5 days ago you would be a regular old corpse, a couple centuries you would leave bones behind and vampires thousands of years old just leave dust and ash when they die.
I want to play a Cappadocian in a video game setting.>But they've been virtually wiped out!I don't care.Give me a clan of true graveyard lurkers and morgue dwellers. Hecata and Giovanni just don't hit the same way, you know?
>>724177157Middle ages into modern nightsHard to beat that
>>724177157>ancient mesopotania>Victorian era>late 90s road trip
>>724177438>>724177540Who's going to tell an independent yesterday's fledgeling (who also just happened to lose the unexplainable power boost) where the woof territories are? The PC is completely clueless about a lot of things.Ideally PC was nice to the Nossies and they will share what they know with him. Ideally PC also earned favours from the Sects and will have at least not guarded information shared eagerly if he/she runs into one of them wherever.
>>724177630Is that a thing anymore or did they retcon it for being too racist or something.Eventually you turn into like cool unnatural onyx black which is cool. Though I think it takes hundreds of years and you just look brown in the meantime so definitely a drawback.
>>724177749He had his fun, he now watches the duckling sink or swim on their own path.
>>724178725It isn't a thing in V5 but all of the lore got fucked pretty hard, it essentially a separate setting.
>>724177749Assuming God isn't the worst piece of shit in the universe, it can be assumed that Caine could give all vampires salvation by sincerely apologizing to God and lifting the curse saving both the vampires and the rest of the world from their shittiness.Given that Caine hasn't done that, you can presume Caine wants nothing but the worst for vampires. He is literally responsible for sending them all to hell. I know that doesn't sound like a big deal because media has dumbed it down so much but it is HELL.
>>724178645oh fug. that's true.
I like Lasombra
>>724179046Edgy Venture with a religious twist.
>>724151532as a vampire enjoyer in general, my favorite vampires are the pretty aristocrats, and the freak baldies. i'll take either, as long as i get to wear a sick cloak and brood on top of a spooky manor.
>>724177848>>724178741In my VtM world the protag is a malkavian who after the events of bloodlines becomes an anti-gehenna agent for Caine.
>>724178932They only go to hell after they feed once, and perhaps those who achieve Golconda don't either. And there are many, many beings so much worse than WoD's God.
>>724179570A vampire can gain True Faith, though it is rare. Doing so would likely save them if they happened to be a Christian vampire.
>>724178932Eh, I think of Caine as an absurdist in a Camusian sense. God is the absolute authority and the end of free will, so he must be opposed even if it is completely futile. He will not repent, because that is ironically spiritual death.
>>724157323probably a rich social media influencer, and a governor. that would probably solve most problems forever.
No vampire loli no buy
>>724161569in lore, could you embrace the most gigachad hunter ever as a mutual "fuck you" to vampires, if you were embraced against your will? sort of like a>hey, i never wanted this, and if you want all this cool vampire power to kill every vampire but me, i'll give it to youkind of deal?
>>724146262bodied that freak
>>724175701The Salubri are a reminder that Saulot exists. Tremeres rewrite history constantly - nowadays they killed enough vampires and stole so much magic that they can tell they're the only vampire clan with magic, and so it is written in the book. Just needed a little bit of history rewritting.The Tzimisce swere pretty decent dudes before the Tremeres got to them, now they're foaming at the mouth berserk about anything the Tremere touches. It's really the reaction of all clans having interacted with Tremeres for a time.
>>724180652So long as the Hunter isn't an imbued, then yeah
>>724180652The hunter has not even any metagaming reasons to agree because he'd be almost certainly forever losing a chance to get potentially reality-changing God-given powers. And likely going to Hell, indeed.
>>724142327>VentrueProbably really fucked. Primarily because I come from working class background rather than upper class despite being in upper class, got mindset of rogue soldier stuck in my head for years and distrust most people, and because I question everything.They probably would use me as cannon fodder or try to decapitate me asap.Ventrues always pick people from special backgrounds that they groom for years, and I don't fit in well among people.
>>724181038>The Tzimisces were pretty decent dudes before the Tremeres got to them, Nah, dude. The Tzimisce were always massive assholes and psychos. They were just classy about it.
>>724181490Sounds like a perfect Anarch candidate.
>>724155513No way fag, I'm still seeking justice for my brother ErikTotal Tremere Death
>>724180652>Letting a v*mpire curse you to eternal damnation
>>724156973This but the stupid pantry room of the ocean house hotelSometimes I drain my entire pool of blood on healing and meet final death just because I'm waiting for that stupid poltergeist to knock down the fucking door instead of me
>>724181639>Ventrue anarchThen I'd get ousted fast. Anarchs fucking hate Ventrues
>>724181490Soldiers are also good choices for Ventrue, while primarily they are known for their leadership Fortitude is one of their abilities for a reason.
>>724181649
>>724182039Anarchs hate Cammies.Their whole thing is allowing kindred to have absolute freedom without any elder breathing down your neck, as long as you're not going full retard that is.Since you yourself admit that you "don't fit the criteria of a Ventrue" makes you even more likely to be picked up by Anarchs.
>>724142327>Brujah
>>724181490>always pick people from special backgrounds that they groom for yearsNo. Be driven, be good and something, do it smart. Probably "know how to adapt" too.
>>724182039Entirely untrue, elder brujahs dislike ventrues because muh carthage but overall the anarch movement doesn't give 2 shits about clan origins. as in any organization, ventrue that make their way into the anarchs tend to rise into positions of leadership.the issue is that it's a popular clan + sect affiliation for girlboss players in the tabletop
>If you don't have a gun you get softlocked in the egg fu yung syndicate
>>724184345he sends a wave of guards with shotguns at you before that sis
>>724185018what about the meat grinders?
>>724146231adequate bait
>>724185048yes well you see, I forgot about that so it doesn't count.
>>724181649I always thought that gargoyle transformation is a more laborious process than some Tremere just clapping his hands and turning a Gangerl into a gargoyle.
>>724187840Wrong game. This thread is about the original.
>>724188009yep, noticed it too late, free bump i guess
>>724142327>ventrueI thought I was quiet but apparently I'm quite pushy so I'll either die immediately or fit in
>>724184345VTMB is a source game. No shame in using the console to bypass the godawful big dungeons.
>>724157117you got too successful and made him get scared because HE is too successful and just not old and powerful enough to feel secure.typical ventrue autism
>>724157150you are supposed to use the big observatory doors to lock him in after dodging him for a lil bit.you set them to close and dash out, and he will get stuck for a while... I think you ideally get him stuck in-between the doors.
Does the Nosferatu clan curse affect other nosferatu? i.e do they also find each other absolutely repulsive?
Just beat VTMB2 last night. I thought it was fun. I wish I could have bitten the Gardener
>>724193421It would be a really funny bad end if you somehow get both of them inside phyre's head
I played Ventrue because the noble rich aristocrat thing was appealingNow I think they're gross.
>>724192765no, the Nosferatu are one of the most tight-knight clans and Tung references some of the "other clans" taking issue with Nosferatu's appearance which doesn't seem a concern for many of them apart from people like Imalia
>>724194251I know that they are tight knit. I'm just wondering if they make an effort to look past appearances or if it just doesn't affect them
>>724194956I don't think its ever explicitly stated that it has no effect on them but none of them seem bothered by itthe cleopatras only seem concerned with themselves being ugly rather than their clanmates
>>724193421Just beat it a few minutes ago, already uninstalled. I regret wasting my time pirating it.
>>724195406>WebmKek, why even give you option to leave?
>>724195709To trick you into thinking you're playing an RPG.
>>724195406>>724195709the game is a piece of shit but I think he's supposed to be using Dominate here like Lacroix did to you in 1 if you refused him
>>724196098nope. Dominate gets used later on snd they depict it as an obvious effect
>>724142327>TremereFucked but at least most of the time there's enough structure unless we live in a V5 dystopia
>>724196098No, basically what he said >>724196175
>>724196098>>724196175Isn't Gideon a fellow Malkavian and using his mind magic to wipe Fabien's mind?
>>724142327>toreadoroh nooooooooooooooooooo im a sexy artist now awwww that suuuuuuuuucks
Gangrel. I think I'd be alright.As years go by, I've come to realize Nosferatu is the clan for me, though.
>>724142327I'm the millennial version of Gangrel anyway
>>724196257He might but it's not what's happening there. It's a flashback so you don't actually control the actions of the character. Now the Phyre parts aren't much better in terms of reactivity but the Fabian ones are meant to be on rails.
>>724196424Yeah I heard that you get some RP abilities but since you can't fail the Fabien sections anyway you get to refund your usage. Ironic that Fabien's segments could have been a kino detective game with reactivity in the real world but that's lost technology now
>>724142403This
>>724196265>artistTypecasting.Captcha GAY0J
>>724142327Ah shitI picked Malk
>>724196535Yeah. I would've enjoyed that a lot more>(You) are a malk detective>game takes place almost exclusively in Elysium where you subtly (or not so) investigate something>Obfuscate, Auspex and dementation can be used on any NPC freely except if you do it on the wrong person you get fucked with in return or earn a new orafice.>on-rails schizo flashbacks/visions to move the stort along and ease the burden of having to write so much dialogue to account for the mind reading, trickery and other bs.>very small open world with some opportunities to do a bit of sneaky investigation/searches and make friends in low places like maybe getting a ghoul or romance
>>724186831he had half the work done beforehand to be fair
>>724196979Would be a Kino Disco-like but writers and game devs be lazy
anons often say that nosferatu is the clan for them but would you really be okay with the toxic "us vs the world" mentality? I'd hate living in a communal haven, having elders breathe down my neck, having to deal with losers with a chip on their shoulder and so on
>>724198854That's basically all of Vampire society though, Nossies are just ugly but you also get a less toxic community than say the Tremere
>>724198854>I'd hate living in a communal haven, having elders breathe down my neck, having to deal with losers with a chip on their shoulder and so on?You're on /v/, you're basically doing that already.
>>724146231BEHOLD RTX BLAST
>>724196740why is he so CLAMP
>>724199269Probably because he's a teleevangelist vampire. Double evil, if you will.
man, I miss the 00's
>>724199218>Alpha 0.0.2>teaser suspiciously focuses only on environmentsand here I wanted to check this out despite of how much of a meme this is
>>724199837Me too, Anon. Me too.
>>724142327>tremerelord forgive me i did not know what i was doing
>>724196821spoilers suck
>>724143745to mopily gay where no mopy gay has mopily gayed before...
>>724142327Give me a qrd on bloodlines 2. Is there new classes?, what weapons are in the game? What new powers you get to do? Who are the best characters so far? What quest you can do? Can you play as a vampire hunter? How's the music? Is it on par as 1?
>>724201251Its a gay relationship simulator, like every other mdoern western RPG.
>>724201251It's a bad game.
>>724147296common vampire fiction writer arc
TremereI don't know, am I fucked? They seem cool.
>>724147348I think that's exaggerated.
So Nosferatu are ugly freaks. But what are they good at?
>>724201657>>724200289Could be worse, you guys could be furries instead of indentured servants to insane wizards
>>724202263resenting everyone else
I don't get the whole "Caine buffed you" shit. Caine is just a vampire he cant do that/
>>724201657They'll probably just slap a cursory Acolyte title on you and put you on perpetual probation until you prove you're either useful or something to be expended. Your sires the fucked one, that dumb mofo just lost a lot of pyramid traction embracing an unknown, which is a fate worse than death to most Tremere. Tremere is just a lot of work. They're just never going to leave you alone, you're always going to be doing something for someone until you're high enough in the pyramid, and there's a lot of glass ceilings in place to make sure that never really happens. You're going to be overworked and exhausted for the next few hundred years, have fun.
So if I'm ugly but get sired by a Toreador anyway do I become more handsome or what?
>>724142327I legitimately do not remember what I picked as my first clan. Toreador, I think? I'll be getting the pusspuss regardless.
>>724176361No, I just picked Ventrue the first time I played because they sounded cool. The in-game quiz gives me Nosferatu and Malkavian usually.
>>724202626>I'll be getting the pusspuss regardless.All you need is dominate, presence, potence or animalism, and a blood bond and you have that.
>>724202263Computers and information gathering
>>724202263Professional seething.
>>724202461if he really is as powerful as they think he is, buffing you wouldn't be much trouble for him. the difference between a 13th generations, and a methuselah is already brutally unfair. imagine the guy, that made the guy, that made the guy, that made methuselahs.
Will I enjoy redemption if I enjoyed bloodlines?
>>724204649You'll enjoy redemption if you liked dragon age or baldur's gate 2
Can vampires change their health? Like can I work out as a vampire and get fit or am I stuck the same age (appearence) and physique as when I got vamp'd?
>>724204859iirc you're static. whatever you looked like when you got turned.
>>724204436He can do plot device things. He is not omnipotent but for a mortal he effectively is. For a fledgeling he is close enough.
>>724204859same age, same physique, same haircut, same hemorrhoid
>>724204859You need to find someone who can fleshcraft and hope you can convince them to go according with your specifications instead of something creative, like a Doric order but out of flesh and bones.
>>724205174all these norwood ass vampires
I picked Nosferatu and restarted the game 30 minutes later when I realized what have I done and finished the game with Ventrue. Initial pick does not count, right?
>>724202461The blood of the elders controls their progeny. He is the one who cursed the 3rd Generation, he can do pretty much anything with other vampires.
>>724205417get BACK in the fuckin sewer, FREAK
>>724202461>Caine is just a vampire he cant do that/Even relatively high gen (bigger number, further from Caine) vampires can do funny things. One of the 6+ dominate powers lets you control your descendants for example. Low gen vampires can do very funny things. For example there's a Malkavian 4th generation vampire that feeds on true names and concepts instead of blood. Baba Yaga (Nossie, 4th gen) created a "shadow curtain" around the soviet union (more or less) that fucked with all the supernatural stuff. The antediluvians are naturally more capable. The most famous one is Ravnos with the week of nightmare plot. He devoured most of his descendants, went on a rampage, fought all sorts of mighty supernatural, got nuked, got (((technocratic))) space laser'd and finally died. Malkav is probably the madness network. The Gangrel antedeluvian merges with the earth in one of the gehenna scenarios. I think Lasombra becomes the abyss and blots out the sun for a while. Read the Gehenna scenarios book if you want to know more. Point is as you get closer to Cain you get stupid powerful so if Cain says you have the power of a millennia old low gen vampire even though you got embraced yesterday that's that.
>>724205182>>724205301imagine being a tzimisce and just handing out norwoods to everyone. sure, you could turn someone into a chair, or make a multi-person monstrosity... or you could just norwood people.
>>724207019i feel low gen vampires could beat humanity, provided they don't do something that retarded. if you look at society today, you really just have to control a few governments and billions of people will just accept control.
>>724207083ah yes, another 5ft 6in norwood to make. i love being the most evil bastard in the world.
Tried out Bloodlines 2. Bits of the story with characters were intriguing, minus Tolly, but the gameplay and fetch quest back and forth across Seattle was terrible. What's the ideal, most stable alongside true to the original experience for Bloodlines 1 way to play? Any tips or things to keep in mind like stat distribution to prevent bricking your character or content that can be easily missed?
>>724207362no no, i would norwood social media stars. men, women, who cares. say, can you fleshcraft people into different races? imagine taking someone you really hate and turning them into a norwood jeet.
>>724207425the most basic version of the unofficial patch. also be careful of making like ten trillion different saves because it'll fuck up the furniture in one of your apartments, like turning everything into candles or chairs and making it impossible to get to your laptop.
>>724207425don't listen to this malk retard >>724207542 save all you want.
>>724207601IM NOT CRAZY
>>724142327i'm a blood mage who will eventually go insane, seems fine to me considering the rest of them all either go insane anyway, or start insane in the first place so it's not even a unique downside
>nosferatumy first playthrough was ages and ages ago but i dropped it a few hours in after realizing how boring going through the tunnel was. i thought this was how the game was supposed to be playedgrim
>>724207210Maybe in theory a powerful low gen vampire could become the god king of somewhere. Or maybe just depopulate the earth to reduce humanity to a manageable herd like in the good old days. Like with mages, the problem is their peers who have their own plan. In the case of vampires, their childer are also a problem. Vampires always sire childer, and those childer are weaker and dumber and maybe more ruthless and they don't appreciate being exposed to angry angry mortals. They would also partake of your delicious Methuselah blood at the first opportunity. Secrecy is the most powerful weapon in any vampire's disposal. Doing away with it is just not worth it and you'd have to be pants on head retarded to not see that.
>>724207983that's honestly my favorite part of the lore, the higher up the chain you go, the less it even seems real. there's probably a third gen controlling everything, or not, who knows.
>>724207983And as much as the metaplot sort of sucks and the different splats poorly mix together, there are also other players that can fuck your shit up if you go that big and loud.
>gangrel>reclusive, animalistic, least social clan, doesnt work well with othersoddly accurate first pick
The Sabbat with their organization built like a dark death cult version of Catholicism with an anti-pope and bishops, the ones who lean into the supernatural nature of WoD and the mythologies of the bible and the antediluvians, the ones who shaved off their humanity and embrace the idea of being predators and monsters instead of parasites like the Camarilla,, seekers of transcendence and Golconda, and embrace a dark enlightenment understanding that they are evil and damned is so fucking cool bros. It's a shame that we will never get a game centered around them.
>>724142327Considering Toreadors are the only clan not cursed by Caine but blessed by him, then I'm good.
So, what's bloodlines 2 like?
>>724208963Bad.
>>724208963a walking simulator with punching, no rpg mechanics at all, the dumbest elder vampire of all time, and a gay nosferatu that's bad at being a nosferatu. it's a hate letter to the fans.
>>724207425>What's the ideal, most stable alongside true to the original experience for Bloodlines 1 way to play?I would suggest firearms over melee for a smoother late game experience. Both are viable but firearms becomes powerful with only a few points. You should also get comfortable with stealth for the best outcomes. Social stats are also fun. Persuasion is the best. That's the TL;DR version. For clans:>brujahI never cared about them.>GangrelMy first playthrough. I remember Protean being kinda shitty. It buffs your melee combat potential. Animalism is kinda neat. Fortitude is very straightforward to understand. >MalkavianMore demanding because your character is insane. It can be fun to try and understand what they are thinking/saying but it requires you to pay attention. Would make for a very exciting first playthrough but if you're not into it you'll struggle. Dementation is similar to Dominate in gameplay terms but with cooler flavor. Obfuscate is also useful. My favorite clan. >NosferatuThe thing about being forced into the sewers is a meme just don't walk right into any of the randoms on the street. Obfuscate is good. Certainly makes the stealth sections a breeze. Animalism is cool but I never experimented with it too much. Potence is okay I guess.>ToreadorCelerity is like that scene in the matrix. Very cool with firearms. Presence is kind of a boring discipline in the sense that you don't really feel you're doing something. You activate it and your enemies get debuffed. You get to have unique dialogue options with presence though. Auspex buffs your firearm skills and gives you xray vision. Boring. This is a great clan for a first playthrough>Tremereblood magic. Powerful at later levels. >VentrueA fantastic clan. Great flavor when your clan is brought up. Dominate is great fun. It gives you several abilities that are useful in stealth and open combat, along with additional dialogue options. You also get presence and fortitude.
>>724208781>Get hit doubly when they fail to keep up with their humanity or feed the beast because they feel too deeply like high school girls>Obsessive to an almost creepy, incel-like behavior where they latch onto their ghouls/blood-dolls/childe's like they are simps coveting cam girls. >Want to feel more human than all of the other clans who understand they are monsters.Toreadors are doubly cursed. Everyone else can just live their unlife normally, but Toreador are beholden to their emotions. No thanks, I don't want to be akin to a Social Media girl for the rest of time.
>>724209135>it's a hate letter to the fansthis
>>724208963It's honestly okay. I finished the whole thing in 3 days I think. 18 hours and I only did a couple of side missions which sucked. "I kept playing it" is the most enthusiastic endorsement I can muster. The story is kinda dumb but it's not bad and I wanted to know what's next. The combat is not exciting 99% of the time but I didn't dread it either but only after I turned down the difficulty to normal. The characters aren't cringeworthy but I can't say I liked them either. I liked Lou and Ryong. Did not like the others, but mostly because I just didn't like their personalities rather than because they were bad characters. The on-rails Fabian sections were somewhat tedious but I didn't dread them. it was okay. it was VTM so it was nice and familiar. it was okay.
>>724209292protean is great if u want to be a melee tank, but the third hit of the melee combo misses a lot iircanimalism is cool too if you want to be more of a caster, the vampire bats are good
>>724208985>>724209135>>724209591Thanks. Was thinking about getting it because I like vampires, but I might hold off until it's on sale.
>>724210059as another vampire enjoyer, we can't have shit in this world.
>>724210059check out night road and redemption first desu
>>724142327I forgot the name of the clan, but I think I played as the "pretty boy" vamp clan with lots of charisma the first time I played. So if I violate the masquerade and get sent to vamp prison, I'm definitely fucked!
>>724210059if you're looking for VTM games check out the CYOA. Night Road is not bad. Parliament of Knives is less well known for some reason but I think it's better. There's also the VNs. There's only Shadows of New York really. I'm replaying it right now. It's kinetic but I remember the story being good. There's also Swansong which got a lukewarm reception but I've seen anons praise it lately. I will have to check that one out for myself.
