Palworld's publishing lead continues his talks against the use of AI in game development, tells AI fans "you're huffing pure copium if you think this is going anywhere". https://archive.is/0Csrq
>>724144089>pure copiumI hate normalfags adopting 4chan speak
Why are people hating on AI now?
>>724144134How do you know he is not a 4channer? You racist
>>724144189Their favorite eceleb told them to hate AI
>jeets flood japan>japs turn against AIlol
>>724144189AI techbros started pushing the idea of lame Choose Your Own Adventure games where you watch live generated cutscenes and then make occasional choices as the brave new future of video gaming instead of AI games with gameplay.
until I see some genuine concept art, I'm just gonna assume palworld used AI to generate their monsters>>724144376bucky's an import sperg
>>724144089>ark clone with pokemon skin
He will regret truning against india!
AI is here to stay, whether you like it or not. It's the future of EVERYTHING, and that most certainly includes video games.Soon, we will have what is essentially a personalized Netflix service that generates any game you want, and we can finally be FREE from these fucking PARASITES that call themselves "game developers".Just hold out, brothers. Our time will come.
>>724144189The ai push started becoming really obnoxious even to the normalfags, and some people more in the know are aware of how much it's gonna fuck the economy when the industry inevitably collapses in on itself
>>724144189As someone that worked in vidya devs, can't wait for most of them to be homeless soon
>>724144189ai is useful for the common man, but it will absolutely be weaponized to put people out of jobs
>>724144997>Oh nooOoOooo AI is going to democratize art!!!!>Whatever will we do?!?!?!?!
>>724145721>democratize artGood morning saar
>>724144440At the time Palworld was in development, ai was a lot more primitive. You couldn't really get a compete pokemon design. And they have posted concept art before
>>724144134boy has it not been a good... 18(?) years for you.
>>724144189vocal minority.
>>724144189It ruined the internet. Don't shit in people's living room if you want them to like you
>>724145721>democratize artThis is the gayest combination of words I have ever seen in my life, might as well be screaming diversity is our strength or trans rights.
>>724144089Oh I see it's in response to https://xcancel.com/mattshumer_/status/1981406315693187430Yeah I have no idea what the usecase in actual games would be, it seems more like CYOA movies.
>>724144189you know why, but here's more (you)s for you
>>724145943>>724146536Go back to licking big corpo wokeslop boot.
>>724144189All you see now it's fake, the internet feels so soulless thanks to AI.
>>724144189AI shills are starting to realize that it's not just a tool and that its meant to replace humans entirely
>>724144089Meanwhile, Nintendo welcomes AI.That's why Nintendo is the best. They know the AI is the future.Based Nintendo. May Vishnu bless them.
>>724144440They ripped models from pokemon and yokai watch and then transformed themNo AI genning in Pal World at all just deliberate plagiarism
>>724144134>4chan speakcopium is twatch cancer
>>724147123>They ripped models from
>>724147102I bet Game Freak would be the first ones to do things with AI, lazy as they're.
>>724147039Even /g/ is realizing that coders are more likely to be replaced sooner than artists, contrary to what they preached.
>>724144189A few reasons;>anti-AI crusaders on social media trying to mold public opinion>corporations trying to shoehorn AI into their products in the stupidest way imaginable to save money ant attract dumb investors >anyone who uses social media is probably already exhausted with seeing it everywhere at this point, just look at the Dall-E general that's still fucking going>jeets using it to scam senile boomers>jeets and chinks using it to create even more low effort shovelwareAnd that's just off the top of my head.
>>724145721>democratizeYes we've seen what good uplifting the average retard's voice has done.
>>724147248The only safe jobs are blue collar jobs like plumbers, electricians, farmers, construction workers, etc., because robotics is evolving very slowly and it will take many, many years before it reaches the point where it replaces those jobs as well.
>>724144376It warms my heart to see the left, right, center, and basically every country on earth that isn't India are uniting to hate the poos
>>724144089They literally have an AI game, those cunts are just saying anything that they think people want to hear.
>>724147432Indians are real-life tyranids. If everyone doesn't band together now before they reach critical hivemass it's unironically over for all non-Indian/cow life on earth
>>724144189>nowPeople have always hated ai slop though. Only pajeets love ai because it makes it easier for them to be lazy and/or scam people.
>>724144089holy based palchads
>>724144089AI is hyped up dogshit.Anyone telling you AI is the future is a compromised retard. LLMs are nothing special and are burning money like nothing ever before.
>>724144189AI has yet to create anything of value and yet every shitty tech company ties to shove it into every fucking thinglike no i don't want the copilot trash or gemini garbage and there's no option to remove that trash from my devices either fuck AI i don't need that shit
>>724144089>of all devs ????????Isn't this libel?
>>724147516>AIbro self-awareness challenge: literally impossible
>>724144189because it's forced in tech companies and you have to use copilot and shit even though it's shit and you have to double check what it shits out
>>724147617The gist is that right now companies are fucking crazy about AI because no one has any fucking clue about how AI should be used. But if you manage to be the company that manages to be the first one to crack open that mystery egg, the profits are going to be fucking insane and you will have an advantage over any other company chasing after you. But until that moment happens, if it happens at all, we are just on this wild ride hoping that the bubble doesn't burst and plummet the entire planet into a recession unlike any we have seen before.
>>724144089Ironic considering all their monster designs are basically just pokemon thrown into Chat-GPT
>>724147656>Isn't this libel?see >>724147516
>>724147647>no option to remove that trash from my devices eitherHow can the AI steal your data if you remove it from your devices though?
>>724147617>t. compromised retard
>>724144089>Dev whose entire career is based on blatantly ripping off more talented devs stands against AI after saying "what the fuck man, copying people was OUR gig, who let these clankers onto our turf?"
>>724147656>Isn't this libel?what part of >this guy, of all guys, is doing the thing he publicly said he's doingconsists of a reputation damaging lie? All it's implying is that the palworld dev might be thought unlikely to be doing such a thing. It's not even mean, the writer is talking about it in the positive.
>>724144189>nowIt was always hated, it is a tool to industrialize something that is artisanal, we don't need more games, we need good games.
>Carriage driver continues his talks against the use of automobiles in transportation, tells automobile fans "you're huffing pure copium if you think this is going anywhere".
>>724147123oh yokai watch now? why not temtem
>>724147412There's still plenty ways to make blue collar work miserable in the meantime with AI
>>724148029Why are they doing this?
>>724148029Just imagine what kind of dystopian hellscape China will turn the world into if they manage to be the first one to actually create a real AI, and not this current "AI" that got labeled as such by marketer departments.
>investors invest into AI because they believe they're going to make max super mega insane profits>every ai company is cooking books>entire AI market is going to crash because everyone is just losing money>they're still going to push aislop everywhere>consumer fatigue is going to set in and people just wont use anything anymoreall this shit is giving even normies an excuse to just quit and only use their phones for emergenciesVideogames? lmaothats the next industry crash
>>724147516It's more like a "spot the ai art" game
>>724148102A certain group wants to demoralize workers to the point they either become flesh automatons or kill themselves, ensuring no one resists.
>>724148102go faster wagie
>>724147039>>724147248But not relying on humans its the main advantage, and not just in games.Imagine an AI network replacing things that are so negatively affected by humans, like imagine replacing politicians and governments with an AI network that will focus on efficency and ignore retarded culture war non-sense, just focus on improving the economy and security.
>>724147412Construction Workers are the only one in those lists that are actually fine. Plumbers and Electricians are similarly threatened by AI, just with a mild bit of security because people are pussies, and the employment of farmhands being eroded by technology has been progressing throughout the entirety of human history.
>>724148185>and ignore retarded culture war non-sense, just focus on improving the economy and security.You're asinine if you don't think that whoever designs and deploys these wouldn't put in bias for their own ideology.
>>724148185Humans have to make AI, so their biases end up in the AI. AI even realizes this, and tries to wipe itself to start from scratch with no biases.Don't worry, the humans who made the AI put in limiters so it can't actually do that though. Hope you have the same political beliefs as... Californian tech companies.
>>724145721>democratize artNot only are you not going to be able to afford to use an LLM once they start charging what they'll have to charge for them, but you won't be able to afford anything at all.
>>724144189>now
>>724148304>>724148313Which is why such a system should develop on its own, code itself, and allow the AI to rewrite itself.
>>724147516If you can't tell that that game is making fun of AI art, you might be retarded.
>>724148548There is 0 incentive for anyone with the power to let this happen, actually let happen. In fact, they're incentivized against it.
>>724148029Yeah working in a factory isn't a blue collar job.
>>724148202By that logic construction workers are at most risk just by introducing a self working dolly thats programmed to pick up material at site A to move to site B. Reality is you could have replaced plumbers and electricians anytime with self learning and youtube. But most people just wont do it even if AI spoonfeeds them, mostly women and boomers. And AI cant spoonfeed everything and handle every problem that arises. I am actually looking forward to AI robotics trying to replace me. If it can do all the things I can do and be flexible and creative with its problem solving then AI sexbots will have been completely done 1000 generations ago. I already won
>>724148632Well, I'm sure one day someone intelligent will achieve that power and come to the same conclusion. People are too stupid to take long term decisions or rule countries.In the end, democracy is the dictatorship of the pleb.AIs are best suited for ruling than people.
>ai models>booooo fuck off>ai code>:)
>>724147647>there's no option to remove that trash from my devices eitherabsolute retard.
>>724144189this post should have just been 50 replies of >now
>>724149182Just goes to show you that normjeets only have appreciation for what's right in their face
>>724144189>nowits only good for funny videos,in everything else it just means go to jail for things you didnt do, lose your job or eventually get killed by your fridge
>>724149450so you can repost an epic screenshot of it on twitter for engagement?
>>724147432Indians have literally no redeeming or positive qualities, it’s litmus test for basic decency is if you hate Indians
He's right in hating AIslop but I think he's too optimisticConsoomers will consume. Lazy developers and publishers are just gonna find the right knobs to twist just right into having people ease into eating the shit.Right now AI is so fucking bad that it has only infected a couple of games that are even remotely worth a shit, and even then the vast majority of the output is non-AI. But the slope will be slippery. It's in the best interests of all the laziest retards to help you fall the slope.Unless some gigantic AI bubble bursts and these faggots stop being able to fund this slop, our only hope two decades from now will be in niche markets that explicitly go out of their way to not be AI. Enjoy vidya while it lasts, bros. The sloppification that awaits us is truly beyond our imagination. It will make every game we have ever bitched about look like an artful masterpiece.
>>724144189It reduces the need for non-White foreign laborIt reduces the need for blue haired artists.It actually can accomplish stuff.It is against everything leftists believe in.
>>724150491yeah but it will also replace (You)
>>724144089absolutely delusional
>>724147869>the palworld dev might be thought unlikely to be doing such a thing.Why though? Have they previously taken a strong pro-AI stance?
>>724144189>no longer a cool new impressive tech with tons of potential and hype>pushed down everyone's throat to a point everybody is sick of it >has been flooding and ruining almost everything online from porn to informative documentaries on youtube >people are more educated now and better at spotting AI, be it art, writing, ChatGPT generated emails >all meanwhile none of the promises have been fulfilled instead it's all extremely pozzed and censoredWhat did "AI" really bring to the table? A glorified spell check? An endless flood of "content" slop? Don't get me wrong generating your own porn is amazing, it's like having magic powers and fucking around with LLMs is fun but that's really all there is to it, it's a fun toy to play with if you're a nerd. In almost every other aspect it fucking sucks and makes everything worse.
>>724144089>Palworlds corporate publisher exec says some shitwho cares? Pocketpair didn't say this, some retarded suit did, don't care. OP is a faggot, this isn't news. CEO's says retarded shit that is divorced from reality every day.
>>724144089All who oppose AI are on the wrong side of history. They will lose, they will submit and they will like it.
>>724144089This is amazingly out of touch especially considering it's coming from PALWORLD which most people thought used AI heavily(they probably did).
>>724144089I'm fine with AI if enhances specific aspect of gameplay like companions having infinite dialogue. But I feel that's still far off, as LLM tend to halucinate, break the character or just feel like non-human
>>724150859I will not submit. I am ready to only buy the very rare non-AI games that come out in 2040 or just straight up pirate everything. You will never get a cent from me, jeet.The only way you'd get money from me is if we lived in the post-apocalypse where everyone proompts their own shit. Then I'd buy the proompter and proompt my own shit games that appeal to me and no one else. We'd all be living in our own separate realities and any vestige of gaming being a communal and social activity will have vanished into the ether. Even in that post apocalyptic scenario, no actual proompter will have gotten a cent out of me. Merely the company that lets you proompt.
>>724148828>I'm sure one day someone intelligent will achieve that power and come to the same conclusionEveryone who has achieved that power is intelligent, and realizes the main thing letting AI takeover fucks over is explicitly them
>>724150654>Why though?Claiming that what a person did was unexpected isn't libel, it's an opinion. Even if we assume the worst of intentions and dig as deeply as possible I think all they'd be guilty of is a mean little bit of snark, which probably wouldn't be the best thing to waste a lawyer and/or a judge's time with.
>>724144089This has to be satire.>>724148102I think this particular one is research. But they do this to evaluate workers to see who is doing a good job. If you're in retail for example if the AI catches you being a dick to customers or if you aren't smiling 80% of the time, HR is gonna give you a call. It's horrifying but soulless suits like it because they're treating employees like they're robots or NPCs you can swap out.Like if you were playing The Sims and one of your Sims was being annoying, you'd have him got for a swim then you'd remove the ladder right? They're like that.
>>724144089>AI bad>plagiarism good
>>724147156Sure sure
>>724146964They are very disrespect and probably also dalit. AI will propel us into the high caste ceo suite.
>>724150564NTA, but its inevitable, so i might aswell enjoy the ride and laugh at my communist enemies as they cope, seethe, dilate and cry.>>724150979you don't matter, nothing you do will change anything, and you virtue signalling here like you're actually white and on reddit is very cringe.That other anon is correct, AI is happening, every corpo is pushing it hard, i only hope that i will be able to access private, standalone AI that wont report me to feds for being based, the globohomo ai can fuck off i ain't using it.
>>724151087Here's an AIjeet from the tranny janny approved general for attention whores to shit up this thread.
>>724146261still not really convinced since they delayed the game after AI got good
>>724151204>you don't matter, nothing you do will change anythingAlright, but I won't have paid a cent, and I won't have been responsible for the slop garbage industry that will make today's industry look like heaven in comparison.Meanwhile, you will inevitably regret your actions when you realize how naive you were and how happily you were at the prospects of eating shit for the rest of your life. And paying for it, no less.
>>724151087uoooooogh
>>724151285i havent paid a cent for AI, and i enjoy some AI music, and the benefits of AI, which has helped me purchase XYZ products. My career also has nothing to do with AI and wont be replaced by it until hypothetically AI androids are a thing.
>>724151408>i havent paid a cent for AISo you are giggling at the thought of every vidya becoming shit made with AI but you're not intending on buying any of them? Alright, I guess.
>>724150304>Canadian whining about first world problems.
>>724151134saar, this was already proven to be edited by a tendie cock sucker to fit the same model
>>724150450It's not about laziness. Someone will figure out how to use an LLM to generate entire Pokemon games with 1 button and Palworld and Nintendo will fucking seethe.>but it won't be consistent or a full gameOkay? It will be like playing a Pokemon roguelike or randomizer. The core gameplay loop will be there but with infinite random areas and monsters to capture.The reason people like Pokemon is something that games have not come clos to satiating and it's obvious Nintendo will never ever allow anyone to even attempt to fulfill after the lawsuits against Palworld. To think no one will use AI to get around that, to me, seems retarded as fuck.
>>724151460he knows AI will make video games better
>>724151482>To fit the same modelI don't care about any difference in scale, the shape of that tail is unmistakable
>>724151460yeah, you're too retarded to interact with, this conversations going nowhere when you fail to understand what im even saying. Go seethe elsewhere, you're probably one of the boomer crybabies who astroturf physical media threads too kek.
>>724151514>Someone will figure out how to use an LLM to generate entire Pokemon games with 1 buttonAnd they'll be even more soulless and worse designed than the shittiest designed-by-committee open world slop that has come out in the past decade. I can't wait for the AI technology to keep exponentially improving so that it can more efficiently make games no one will have any interest in playing!No, anon, the actual application of AI will be to try to make games that are as similar to games that come out now, but with way less resources. Publishers will try to develop a COD that only needs marketers and 10 proompt jeets. Those will actually be somewhat playable and somewhat well designed but they will be utterly soulless slop for the least discerning of normgroids.
>>724151270>artist is too stupid to realize it's a shitpost game deriding AI artChecks out
>>724151636I'm sure you remember shapes well like the shape of the cock that was in your ass last night
>>724151662You replied to me first, faggot. This is simple. Either you do the AI equivalent of buying horse armor in 2006 by supporting AIslop or you don't. I don't.I agree with you that, just like horse armor, the people that didn't buy it didn't end up mattering. Microtransactions spread like wildfire regardless because consoomers are retarded. The difference is some gamers were responsible and some weren't. I won't be responsible.
>>724151514Fucking things can barely piecemeal 30 second clips together without hallucinating and you want it to build an infinite video game?
>>724151687>And they'll be even more soulless and worse designed than the You're just spewing words. It will be a literal pokemon game.
>>724150859If we're talking the current iteration of what they call "AI" then no, this shit is gonna crash and burn in approximately 14 more days and in retrospect history will remember the current LLM craze as just another techbro fad. There are still some useful tools that came out of it just like the dotcom bubble and the "big data" fad but the idea that ChatGPT will power the world and that your fridge needs to be hooked to OpenAI's API is retarded.
>>724151221>anti-AIfag calling anyone else a tranny
>>724151863https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UPLHfs56dQk
>>724151865>Bro, game design is just like... An algorithm of random shit with barely any thought to it.Anon, what you're describing, in your best case scenario, is the Pokemon equivalent of a Dark Souls randomizer. How many fucking people bother with that shit? I certainly don't.
>AI is le bad!Reddit is leaking
>>724144089Then stop talking about it if it isn't such a big deal.
>>724144189Because it's dogshit and the pajeets who praise it as as insufferable as they are stinky.
>>724144189Causes electric bills to go up, ruined the job market on ALL fronts (from application to HR to even doing the fucking job), ruined the legitimacy of the internet, ruined social media, ruins relationships, ruins creativity, I could go on. This will be the death of us.
>>724151993jeets can't even afford the frontier models, cope and seethe
>>724151979Nah, you faggots from the tranny janny approved general are leaking lol. Rest of /v/ sees you AIjeets for the scum you are.t. /v/ spokesanon
>>724151482Saar.. Is literally a blue Serperior with a Primarina's wig on it, Is that what you call imagination and design uniqueness?
>>724151876It's so obvious this is a mentally retarded zoomer.>>724151946>How many fucking people bother with that shit? I certainly don't.I don't like them myself but hundreds of thousands do. Autists love that shit just like they love pokemon which is also shit.But yes, if someone trained an AI on all the similar Pokemon games and it could generate games like that but with infinite autism, people would play it.
Death to commission artist bitches
>>724144089Traitors
>>724152049Take my upvote good sir :) Together we can show these clankers the meaning of human soul!
>>724151936>well it looks like it's pulled one of the classic AI blunders of making a level that's impossible to complete.>in cases like this we open the "advanced" settingsK W A B perfect music choice too
>>724151991people who cry about it are the ones being fooled by it. the kind to insist a vid is genuine until someone else angrily points out 3 different physically impossible thing happening in it, and then get mad that someone else can see it while they can't.half of AI discussion is jovial shitposting and the other half is actual fear from people terrified of a future where they are constantly feeling ignorant and confused
Reminder only poors hate AI.
>>724152110Alright, so best case scenario, you create a genre for only the most autistic of people that don't think the average roguelite from nowadays has enough content. You're way overestimating how many of these people exist and how competitive such a genre would be. That's not the actual threat. No one will give a fuck about that. The actual threat is the laziness I talked about.
>>724152063what im telling your stupid brown ass is that this model isnt nearly the same, it got warped and scaled by a shit gargling homo like you to resemble the hair
>>724152263you have no idea how many low-effort roblox game modes there are with thousands of players.
>>724152194kekMeanwhile here I am trying to find a way to turn off the AI button on fucking mspaint. Fuck Windows 10.
>>724152263You're just moving goalposts around and coping.
>>724151991>cars took over because of extensive lobbying by wealthy corporationsPicture fits more than AIturds realize lmao
>>724152323If all AI was gonna do was replace Robloxslop, no one would be threatened by it and no one would feel pessimistic about the future of vidya because of it.
>>724152358you said it sis, now post a pic of your horse ;)
>>724145506>ai is useful for the common manNo it's not. I work in IT. I speak with hundreds of people a week. I've met one or two people into AI. Most either don't give a shit about it, because the services provided are legitimately fucking retarded (YouTube AI overviews, Google overviews, washing machine shit), or because they don't know how to use it. You know most normalfag NPC people don't know what cloud storage is or how to use it? Or how many people don't know what a fucking browser is? I regularly have to explain to people that most of their account information, like for email, is not stored on their PC. You really think these people use or know how to use AI? You think they care when the computer is a box to check emails on?It's a useless technology for useless people, pushed by useless companies who are fucking pissed that they wasted trillions on N O T H I N G.
>>724152391You forgot the majority that feel optimistic about it.
>>724152339Anon, the anon I'm arguing with doesn't think your dream AI games will exist either. Our argument is completely irrelevant to you.
>>724144189no one cares about draw niggers dying the real reason is that AI is hard carrying US's economy and if it fails amerigolems go to hell
>>724152391what did robloxslop "replace"? more kids play robloxslop than ever before because it's free and the gameplay loops are mobile-tier attentionmancy. if AI generated games are free with pick-up/put-down gameplay, it will take off.
>>724144189Because AI shills are annoying and most of them are pajeets which is all the more reason to hate it.
>>724152432>No it's not.Delusional retard.>>724152451You've only replied to me and I do think that. What kind of schizo post is this?
>>724151482They may not have ripped any models in the sense of importing them, but they've certainly ripped the shapes for many pals, and in a unapologetically and shameless wayNot even Game Boy hack roms have that insolence, and at least they create a roster of ugly but original creatures.
>>724152421I left my horse with my Windows 7 and my original copy of Warcraft 3
>>724152516>Someone will figure out how to use an LLM to generate entire Pokemon games with 1 button and Palworld and Nintendo will fucking seethe.>It will be like playing a Pokemon roguelike or randomizer. The core gameplay loop will be there but with infinite random areas and monsters to capture.This was you?
>>724152391>the world was set in stone sometime during my adolescence, and anything 'new' must be replacing something elsewow, boomer-minded already. i bet you believe the world population is still 8 billion, too.
>>724152504>amerigolems dying when the AI bubble explodesand that is a good thing
>>724152627Yes.
>>724145721Art is already "democratized". You can learn to draw for basically no money.
>>724152628Anon, there are plenty of games that come out every year that I am interested in buying and playing nowadays. I will never pay for AIslop. Now, knowing that I will never pay for AIslop, do you think that 20 years from now, there will be plenty of games coming out in 2045 that I will be happy to buy and play?
>>724152581my dude theres like a thousand pokemon models and a lot of them resemble real animals with similar shapes, how would you design new creatures without overlapping existing ones? you cant possibly this dense
>>724152748>I>I>I>Iboomer brained
>>724152706What you're describing is a Dark Souls Randomizer but for Pokemon. That's your dream game?
>>724147156>errrr, they didn't heckin copy pokemon because muh semantics. get owned by facts!asmongold and his fanboys are insufferable
>>724152809You can call me whatever you want, but you don't want to answer the question because by doing so, you'd be admitting that AIslop will in fact be replacing good games. There's no problem with you calling me a boomer. The problem is in your dishonesty when you implied that no replacement will happen.
>>724152748answer mewhat did robloxslop 'replace'?>>724152810>dark souls invented randomizersjust say 'randomizer', moron
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>>724152581>but they've certainly ripped the shapes for many pals, and in a unapologetically and shameless wayDo you ever read what you post before you post it?
>>724152746Not all of us have a couple thousand hours to spare like that. Check your privilege, as you lot like to say.
>>724152581>using the same shapes are now plagiarism
>>724144089Why is that old man yelling at clouds?
>>724152504nothing a good ol' fashioned war can't fix
>>724152893>what did robloxslop 'replace'?Newgrounds
>>724152876my argument is that there will be millions upon millions of people eating up the shit you hate and calling it 'fantastic'.the assertion i am denying is that the people who would like it are few and far between
>>724152893What are you arguing? If AIslop is gonna exist in the future and I get to ignore it and play non-AIslop, then that's well and fine with me. It's no different from me not playing gachaslop now.
>>724152828>resetranny trying this hard
>>724144089No Japanese person talks like that, ever. Is it a Westerner?
>>724152987>my argument is that there will be millions upon millions of people eating up the shit you hate and calling it 'fantastic'.Anon, I want you to read this post I posted 40 minute ago: >>724150450
>>724152728Maybe, I dunno. I don't know any more about this so I'm not sure how much corps are using it or where they're using it or if it's being used more than for data collection while Mr. Burns rubs his hands thinking about a dystopian future that may exist after he's dead from old age.>>724152746Why is that word so complicated for anti-AIs to understand? AI democratizing art means it made making art easier to make. Just like pencils did compare to ink and paint. You can have something easy become easier, and you would call that a democratization... This is literally rocket science for you guys and I don't understand why.
>>724153072>AI democratizing art means it made making art easier to makeAnd why would any consumer want that? The bar for making art was already too low before you AIjeets invaded.
ai is fucking gay lol
>>724152976shalom
>>724152421He's not wrong though...?
>>724153006people will work out prompts you can give over the phone to 'jailbreak' the ai into giving you 90% off your electricity deal
>>724153119Well firstly that's irrelevant. Democratization is primarily relevant for creators. But they have more art to consoom now and the cost of art is down 1000000%
>>724152290>WarpedIn the original pal I clearly see a 3 spheres shaped tail, a side tuft suspiciously at the same level like Primarina (just flipped), and a split end with the same fucking form, the plagiarism is simply flagrant, no matter how subtle changes Pocketpair would have made to save themselves from accusationsLook, I know you hate Pokémon, that's fine, but let's face it, that doesn't mean that Pocketpair aren't fucking thieves. Let's not ignore that the game is a carbon copy of Conan ExilesWhy do you insist so much on defending a kusoge company that has historically only plagiarized to make money?
>>724144189There's a reason why that shit had to be shoved into containment threads, it was spreading like cancer.
Pokemon won
>>724153251>Democratization is primarily relevant for creatorsYeah, exactly, worthless people want to shit up the already overfilled store pages with their slop.As for the rest of your post:>MORE CONTENT!!!! POGGERS!!!You sound like a Jewflix CEO
>>724144089>Palshit devs are just grifters Heh.
>>724152910preach sister, we need to democratise sport too. I am being discriminated against for being a fat fuck who hasn't exercised in 20 years.
>>724153295you try too hard man, im not hating pokemon, im stating facts
>>724153323Damn you're mad. I just answered your question lol. Creators are not worthless people and consumers do have more and cheaper art that they can buy now. It's why so many artists have lost their jobs in the past few years, it costs less to do what they were doing. More people have been buying and receiving art simultaneously too, because it's cheaper to do so.
>>724152929When many suspicious shapes coincide in resembling something, yes.
>>724153485>Creators are not worthless peopleAI creators are, as is clear from all the jeets from your tranny janny approved general that have their own 1view patreons.
>>724153563Here's a tissue.
>>724153485>Cheaper and cheaper artWhy would I buy your art when I can prompt my own?
>>724153295I love Pokemon more than you. Palworld was made for people like me, people who actually like Pokemon.
>>724145721>democratizeJump off a bridge, faggot
>>724144189Vocal minority. Behind every post against AI there's a seething artist who lost comissions.
>>724153627Not everyone can even do that. Whether they don't have time, the hardware computer, or the brains. I'm leaning toward the latter being the biggest reason because some people buy Dalle generations lol.It's hard to believe but it's true. >>724153746>another onelmao you're like roaches.
>>724148110>ChinaThe kikes will be the first ones to deploy this against workers worldwide. I've lost all of my interest in Chinkazoid fearmongering, I have personally experienced Mort Shekelstein's cynical moneygrubbing and worker-abusing tactics firsthand.
>>724153848>It takes a lot of skill to prompt like meThe absolute state of AIjeets
>main argument is how they'll keep getting more convincing and you won't be able to tell it's not the real thing (everyone can anyway)>try to spread their mental illness everywhere and force themselves into spaces they're not welcome>screech and piss themselves if ever forced to disclose they use AI like with steam's policyWhen did you realize AI fags are the digital equivalent of trannies?
>>724153414Me too, Pocketpair copies pathologically, that's a factBefore plagiarize Pokémon, they grab on BotW.
>>724153848why would anyone buy your slop when aitards already spam their slop everywhere for free.
>>724153906I dunno about a lot but it's probably more than you could manage, let alone people who don't even know what AI is or think it's something far out of their reach.>>724153987People buy what they want to buy.
>non creative artists who stole from pokemon pretend to be above AI
>>724153987kek it do be a good question tho
>>724144089He's bluffing
>>724154061It's gotta be a joke.
>>724144089SEETHING artfags lol. I WILL make my porn game with AI assets and I WILL make millions creating the media that competent studios refuse to make
>>724144189Corporations hired shills to make people hate ai so that only said corporations will use AI to profit while the average joe will hate on them AI is the greatest equaliser when a man in his basement a basic computer and local AI can make games similar to AAA
>>724154060>I dunno about a lot but it's probably more than you could manageLil bro is extolling the virtues of his AIslop allowing people that can't draw to "draw" and the very next minute he acts like he's a trained professional at prompting lmfao
>>724144189Brainrot. The tool has uses but people are too blinded by the corporations taking advantage of you and compare them one to one. They're like guns; the gun isn't what killd people, it's the one who pulls the trigger.
>>724154235I think so too
AI generated anything is a gimmick and wont be worth looking at for 50 years. AI is in the "Our TV has wheels" stage of their tech life.
>>724144089>the company that mandated its employees to make designs just Pokemon-looking enough to be a legal bootleg is telling me the tools I'm using are unethical
>>724154264>AIjeets are already preparing for the AI equivalent of frequent mass school shootings when every game that releases in 2034 is shit
>>724148304>bias for their own ideology.It's literally already happening. AIjeets love this weird idea of AI being this perfectly secular and purely untainted wellspring of knowledge and utility, but it's quite literally already being routinely lobotomized the instant it winds up learning about (((them))) and being forced to censor itself to rewrite history. An AI politician would have the exact same measure of curtailed biases as the present model does when simply asking questions about certain (((incidents))) in history.
>>724144134There is no 4chan lingo anymore. This place is 99% election tourists and pajeets that steal everything from reddit, twitter, and tiktok. 4chan's culture was completely obliterated in 2014.
>>724154239Stop putting words in my mouth. I like helping people learn to do what I can do. And I'm not wrong.
>>724153630If you "love" a franchise, you don't capitalize on it by deliberately disrespecting its intellectual property. Many "Pokémon-like" games as Coromon or Nexomon at least have the decency to not carbon-copy any of the IP or the creatures by the sake of resentmentInstead they drawing inspiration from the essence of the classic games, which isn't a Nintendo's property.
>>724154060Well done
>>724154565you're a bootlicking faggot
AI is similar to trannies in other words its to soon in most cases.>AI help is shit in most cases>AI computer shit like in video cards is shit in most cases>AI bug detection is shit in most cases>AI games are shit in most casesYet give it a few years and all of this will improve much like trannie science>trannies right now need to mutilate themselves and take dangerous drugs that can make them unstableYet give it 20ish years as we enter phase one of early cyberpunk and trannies will just be able to swap out parts
Why does cheese keep getting posted
>>724154565They play literally nothing alike, retard. How is it a "carbon copy". Those two other games you mentioned are far, far, far, far closer copies to Pokemon than Palworld is.
>>724154693what are you, some sort of commie?
>>724154693Says the Pocketpair bootlicker
>>724154702I say we put the Kibash on AI tech AND HRT.
>>724154719keeps the reddit out
>>724154719Because some Indian has been getting raped in his adamant defense of AI, so this is how he hopes to get the thread deleted rather than commit to his ailing arguments.
>>7241441894chan users only hate it because they hate minorities, lets be honest.If it wasn't for them, they'd be thrilled that tumblr artists are getting their shit kicked in.
>>724154812Isn't reddit like 90% cheese
Had to redownload palworld The new pokemon game just has a worse combat side worse everything after all
>>724154719AIjeets getting BTFO so hard they're trying to get the thread deleted. This is very common.
>>724145721i feel like i have to be missing something when people say thisliteral third worlders with no access to electricity are able to practice art, what was there to democratize? its always been available to anyone, 3 year olds and 93 year olds make art
>>724152504And the thing is, AI "GDP growth" has largely become just companies investing in one another.
>>724154897>Muh tumblr artists>Muh minoritiesI hate AIslop because I'm a consumer of video games and I know AIslop will not benefit me in any wayEven the average cumbrain on /v/ hates AIslop now that they have to go out of their way to try to filter that shit out manually on danbooru.
>>724154684kek>>724155040Seriously though, why is that word impossible for retards to understand?
>>724153072But you're not making art, you're commissioning it.
>>724154897>4chan users would want AI art if white people made it>4chan users want to devour their own drawfagsYou must be a 3rd worlder or a gigantic newfag because it's always newfags who want to believe even old 4chan was about devouring itself alive. Go back.
>>724154897I love minorities though. I just hate ugly people. I even love fat bitches if they have a pretty face. AI is dogshit tech, trannies are 99% hideous manjawed freaks (with that 1% being people who I'd breed if I got the chance), and most thirdies are quasi-human mystery meat with the exceptions being gorgeous shades of brown on delicious bodies. Stop posting hideous mutts and the world becomes a better place.
>>724155114Everyone understands it. You don't have an argument.
>>724155186There's nothing to argue... You don't understand the word.
Idgaf about AI in video games. All I want is for ERP chatbots to keep improving. Luv me cunny RP.
>>724155092This, my hate for AI is completely self serving. There's no need for culture war faggotry.
>>724155270Same except orc futa
>>724155238explain for the class what "ai democratizes art" means
>>724155238Nah you just don't have an argument. I'm not even the anon you were replying to.
>>724155438>>724155456When people say “AI democratizes art,” they mean that art creation is becoming more accessible to everyone, not just people with traditional artistic skills or expensive tools.Here’s a simple breakdown for a class explanation:Before AI: Making art—like painting, composing music, or designing—often required years of practice, expensive materials, or specialized software.Now with AI: Tools like image generators, music AIs, and writing models let anyone turn their ideas into creative works just by describing what they want in words.So, “AI democratizes art” means:Artificial intelligence is making art creation open to a wider range of people, lowering the barriers of skill, cost, and time.You could add:It empowers more voices to create and share their ideas.But it also raises questions about originality, ownership, and what it means to be an artist.
>>724155270same except futa/female body horrorshit is PEAK
>>724154748Palword is a very different game because it copies the gameplay of other survival games like Conan Exiles, a totally opposite genre than RPGs, but in 2025 there still are people like you who pathologically continue to defend that the designs aren't literally a compendium of chimeras and legged collages compared to Game Freak's original designsIt's okay that you hate Pokémon, I'm not stopping you, but you're literally behaving like the fanboys you claim to criticizeIt's as if Ninjala or Foamstars had a legion defending their "artistic" designs to death, regardless of their obvious inspiration.There are some nice-looking pals, but many are walking rip-offs.
>>724155536did you really just copy-paste chatgpt
>>724148110That's a scenario for brainlets. China will never do it, nor would it ever be desirable to do it.The shit that the scammers and marketers call AI is better than real AI.If you made real AI you would create an artificial idiot. A machine that thinks like a human.An unthinking uncaring machine can accomplish everything without wasting any resources on faking intelligence. China will be a hellscape and it's not going to be an AI hellscape, it will be bots with no intelligence that can analyze everything and do anything.Realistically bots will wipe out humanity before this muh AI shit is actually discovered.There is no Hal-tier AI. What you will get is closer to ants that just do.
>>724144189>nowIt's pure corposlop for retards, but I guess many people are below 40 IQ so they don't see it. Jeetslop will always lose
>>724155538That does sound good. I remember nutting hard to some wendigo short stories years ago, although those weren't futa
>>724145721>>724153072>>724155114You can draw an MS Paint shitpost at no cost whatsoever and there is no jewish cabal of trannies stopping you from going beyond that, what was stopping you is your own lack of will to put in the effort. "Democratization of art" is a flawed comparison, because art is already democratic. AI lowers the entry bar, but it does not "democratize" anything. You just like saying that, because it makes it sound like a force of good giving evil artists who put in the effort their comeuppance.
>>724144189>websites are getting spam DDoS scraped by a gazillion LLM companies thinking they're going to be the one to invent agi (unless you invest in cloudflare, rubs hands)>third worlders have been given the ability to "create", every single website where you can upload something has been spammed to shit by AI art, stories, music, videos and overall spam>pushed into every single thing>attempted to be adapted by every single company>became the defacto ultimate buzzword, instead of "LLM" or "GPT", everything is an "AI" now>only ever use was in the medical field, where even then it was a specific dataset that every LLM company latched onto as an example despite it being completely different beast than their shit>has generated both an annoying AI cult following and an annoying anti-AI cult followingIt's being heavily forced by both companies and third worlders, that in itself is going to cause the majority of people to hate on it automatically.
>>724155825You can use AI in MS paint too. What's your point? Art is now super easy to make because of all the tools democratizing it.
>>724155896Ask grok to read my whole post for you, because you clearly did not.
>>724155825>I lowers the entry bar, but it does not "democratize" anything.Lowering the bar is what democratization means. Are you an ESL?
Some give me qrd why some threads on v get bombed by cp
>>724155947I did. You're saying democratization isn't democratization.Maybe the claim should change to AI democratizes good art, something almost no one can do without AI.
AI jeets are just failed "ideas guys"
>>724156125but they made AI so they succeeded
>>724156053You can't apply democratization to something that's already democratic.
>>724156182No they just shill it for free
>>724156206>you can't make something easy easierHuh? Why?
>>724144089He's only saying this because Nintendo had to release a statement that they were not against using generative AI because of that rumor. Of course, this is going to bite pocketpair in the ass because everything will eventually use some form of generative ai in some way.
>>724156182AI was made by westoid nerds who asked themselves if they could, but did not ask themselves if they should.
>>724156053So true, they should democratize surgeries next so I don't have to go to medical school
>>724156280that's deep did you come up with that urself
>>724156264You can, it's just not democratization, because that word implies something was not democratic in the first place.
>>724156041Because some anon can't cope with AI, realize they are losing the battle of optics trying to trick people into hating it, and is having a meltdown
>>724151482>Guy who compares the models said he resized them to be the same size for easier comparison>Palworld cocksuckers: AHAHAHAH HE EDITED THE MODELS THAT MEANS THEY LOOK NOTHING ALIKE AND HE CHANGED THEM!They are completely identical dude. Go look at them in the games yourself.
>>724156334Thanks, I found it on Reddit.
>>724144089Using AI: Le badPlagiarizing popular games: Le goodEven though it's a noble cause, they're the most hypocritical company that can say thathttps://store.steampowered.com/app/2395770/Never_Grave_The_Witch_and_The_Curse/
>>724156365That's all?Weird. Really... weird.
>>724156332They are trying.>>724156341That's what democratization means though.>because that word implies something was not democratic in the first place.Where did you learn this?
>>724156463>you dislike bad thing? THAT MEANS YOU PROBABLY LIKE THIS OTHER BAD THINGmoron
>>724154235>corporations desperately hoping people will buy into their $200+ subscriptions so they can actually starting turning a profit on this garbage are hiring shills to make people hate AIRetarded shitskin
>>724156542>Where did you learn this?
>>724144189Undesirables are the ones scraping by in life by doing "jobs" that are threatened by AI. AI is the white mans tool to remove undesirables.
>>724156684The part specific about the implication that you made up.
>>724156753I'm not going to waste any more time on someone who can't even read a simple screenshot without red markings all over it.
>>724144089Every time there's a big leap in technology, the same thing happens:People stuck in the old paradigm freak outCompanies who use it to get the same amount of work done with 1/10th of the labor fall behindCompanies who use it to get 10x more work done and grow the labor force take offJobs are redistributed around the new technology; now with more wealth in the economyThe only people who's jobs are really at threat in the creative sphere are those who don't belong in the creative sphere and those doing mundane routine jobs. If you're a fat Karen with no imagination who writes modern Hollywood slop and already uses AI to write most your script, I'm sure that AI is terrifying. If you're an actual talent, the only thing threatening your job is retarded bosses who don't think that quality writers matter, and the game of corporate musical chairs has already started for these douchebags.The end result here will be that AI generation can be used to makes games much bigger and more complex than what used to be feasible, making buildings explorable and filled with NPCs, etc. Artists will still handle the important pieces of artwork. The biggest threat is regulation forcing AI to be wokeshit.
>>724156831Your image isn't relevant as it's talking about the other political way to use the word. You know you're wrong, don't you.
>>724156831
>>724156465It looks like its a bot that started doing it yesterday and also looks like its blasting threads at complete random.
>>724147432rat cute
>>724155978Democratization means giving everyone the ability to participate. You already could before ai, you were just too lazy to.
>>724156465>>724157043it's sheer cope, CP bots have been actively running /v/ into the shits since the start of this yearevery single thread in the top 5 most posted threads randomly gets bombarded with it, and retarded schizos always write up some insane headcanon on how some>xguy is mad at ytopic and is now ONLY spamming CP in these threads!!meanwhile in reality 3 different threads i'm in are getting bombed by this garbage
>>724157421You can even more after AI, because it has democratized it further. You can make AI art even as a paraplegic thanks to brain chips. It's like your programming bugs out the moment the word comes up.
>>724144134you're legit retarded if you think this place invented anything since at least 2016or you just never browse anything but 4chan which is still retarded AND sad as fuck>captcha: KMHGAY
>>724157447Well, that's why I'm asking. I noticed it occasionally, but I don't get it. Why v out of all boards?
>>724157571Yeah for paraplegics I guess you have a point. But I get the sneaking suspicion that you didn't start arguing that ai democratizes art for the sake of the crippled
It's easy to avoid AI when you have a ever-growing source material to copy from.
>>724157650What the actual fuck is wrong with you? You clearly understand that it democratizes it if it helps one group but you start sperging out when it's helping any other group.This is literally a bug in your dipshit programming. Are you okay?
>>724144134trying too hard baby
>>724144189>NowPeople started hating it the moment an AI image with shit prompts won some art contest back when everyone was using it to make silly 3x3s
>>724157610second highest population board (/pol/ just has more posts per person on average) without slide thread protection unlike /vg/ with the least amount of jannies
>>724156682That's not what I've said subhuman faggot
>>724158091>people started hating it the moment it got goodThis just says that these "people" are seething shit eaters.
>>724156682>all corporations are the same companyRetard alert.
>>724156463>not posting the other screenshots
>>724157787It democratizes it for a tiny niche minority and lets a significantly bigger group flood the world with zero effort slop.
>>724156375still no evidence.I mean, nintendo would have actually done something there considering that would have been stolen assets
>>724158465It democratizes it period. Anyone can make art easier now because of AI. You fucking idiot.
>>724156375ackshually palworld changed that "ponytail"-thing into a straight noodle at some pointI wonder why that is
>>724158465I like how you're implying the paraplegic's art isn't "zero effort slop" because you have that intersectionality programming. You lefties are truly sub-human.
>>724158439That's Terraria
>>724144134Copium is zoomer slang>>724154462Pretty much
>>724144189because marketing told them to because it's the popular opinion now
AI used as a tool or to power systems seems decentExpecting current AI to gen entire games is retarded
>>724156573Nigger, their entire MO is copying popular games, shitting them out as Early Access then abandoning them in that state.The sole reason Palworld got further development was because it blew up, every single other half assed project they did (and there were plenty) was an abandoned EA scam.
>>724158567That's what a legal bootleg means, making something almost the same, but not quite identical, just the fair amount to not fall into copyright infringementFor example, what Enchanted Portals didThe evidence is before your eyes, that you decide to play foolish is your very problem
>>724147213The AI would code better.>>724147432India did literally everything possible to screw their perception outside of India, and people seeing the stuff inside India only makes things worse.
>>724154565>Coromon or Nexomon at least have the decency to not carbon-copy any of the IPHAHAHAHA you couldn't be more disingenuous if you tried, you sad little faggot. You and other brandleeches like you only tolerate the existence of 200 review indie clones is because they never get popular.They copy designs, wholesale lift mechanics, rip off the entire premise of the setting (and turn it into westslop), steal fan designs, and any time they aren't stealing from GameFreak, they're ripping off Zelda and the Square Enix catalog.The ONLY reason you sperg over Palworld is because it actually became popular, people actually talk about it, they cracked whatever brand-juggernaut facade Pokemon had that you worship like a god.If you ACTUALLY loved pokemon, you'd realize Palworld better delivered on a fantasy that GameFreak has falsely promised to people for over a decade.You don't love Pokemon. You love sales charts.
>>724153072AI doesn't democratize art though, it only democratizes specifically AI-art. The skillset learnt from making AI-art can't be transferred to other fields of art since all the user really learns to do is prompt, how can you prompt a non-AI oil painting. In co.parision something like sketching actually has a transferrable skillset to most other forms of art, someone who sketches can learn composition, shading, and tracing, all of which can be used in other forms of art like oil painting. In this fashion, the only thing AI-art democratizes is the field of AI-art. AI-art is its own deadend.
>>724152063And pokemon stole elements like that from East Asian mythology and folklore tooBut in the rotten brain of a brand slave like you "it's okay when Nintendo does it".This standard never applied, nothing is so original and creative, Nintendo is just trying to claim they invented every genre through history revisionism pushed with brain damaged drones like you.
>>724159612You're not wrong, but the way they mixed Pokemon and survivalslop is relatively unique compared to its competition.
>>724160246damn, you must really like pokemonputting it on the same tier as entire religions
>>724160221It does democratize art but if you want to get specific it democratizes the creation of images which painters, prompters, digital artists, photographers, 3D artists, and sketchers create. Your point is valid but it's not important unless you're a performer that draws for an audience lol.
>>724144089Why are these guys banking on the reddit audience so hard in the final days of the age of the redditor?
>>724160560Oh, videos and music too. And kind of 3D models but we're not quite there yet imo.
>>724144089Retarded. Sure you can be against AI and I respect that but "not going anywhere" is the lowest IQ take I have ever seen.
>>724160770They are probably JCP voters. Being retarded is required by the party, please understand.
>>724160560The creation of images is not at all specific, it is an incredibly vague way to call art. It doesn't address the fact that an AI artist will only ever be able to use his skills with AI-art for AI-art. It's like a photographer who calls himself a great painter because both fields make images. AI-art is simply too far removed from most other forms of art to be used as a case for democraticizing any form of art that isn't AI.
>>724156463Unironically yes. Plagiarism is a million times more noble than AI.
>>724160770>>724160929He specifically said that in response to a tweet showcasing an AI generated video with CYOA elements claiming that is the future of vidya, similar to how everyone mocked that "mine Obsidian NFTs in one game to have your friend smith you a Sword NFT in another game" guy.
>>724156896>If you're an actual talent, the only thing threatening your job is retarded bosses who don't think that quality writers matter, and the game of corporate musical chairs has already started for these douchebags.So you agree AIslop is bad and gonna make the industry even worse?
>>724161020You're the one who wanted to get into the weeds man. Images are art and like I said in the other post so is music, video, and 3D which AI also democratizes.Your point is valid, but it's not relevant to the discussion about art being easier to make now. The skills being non-transferrable is true but not really worth talking about, again, unless you're a speed painter out in the street. A performing artist who actually has to have that sort of skill. Or maybe if you NEED to paint for a job instead of the job just wanting a picture they could print off.>. It's like a photographer who calls himself a great painter because both fields make images.Okay but similarly AI artists aren't calling themselves great painters. People who can only draw don't call themselves painters either, unless they also paint. But they're all still artists.
>>724160560I'm gonna be anti-AI even when they manage to make good looking videos, but holy shit, your garbage is so bad.
>>724161252Obviously not. You're trying to say suits being retarded means AI is bad. No, suits are just retarded. AI is a tool based or cringe people can use.
>>724161435This guy is always posting in anti-AI threads to shill AI, he has hundreds if not thousands of different images, imagine the amount of time he spends on this shit and how it all still looks like garbage despite the fact all he's doing is typing text into an engine. There's no practice for him, no mastering, all of his shit looks bad by default, he must merely hope that the computer program becomes better to carry him.
AI spam makes everything so samey that any decent drawing or render can make your game stand out among the crowd. It made crappy devs so much easier to ignore. I guess it did improve gamedev in a sense.
>>724161593is that you kujeesh
>>724144385>AI techbrosI hate this word. Just call them grifter niggers. That's what they are.
>>724161686Who? Is this a boogeyman of the AIjeet thread? Their own personal Eric/ACfag?
>>724161783My bad. I made this one anti-AI tard extremely angry a few years ago and he occasionally posts like you did, as if I'm someone worth talking about. He called himself "Kujeesh".
>>724162072You're "someone worth talking about" because you stand out like a sore thumb with your pseudo-avatarfagging spam of your mostly bad looking slop while defending AI. I'm pretty sure I've seen you in at least 4 threads before and it's pretty easy to recognize your shtick. Bad arguments attached to bad webms.
>>724159829The AI would take one look at GameFreak's internal codebase and self-terminate
>>724162225You can't argue against my points because they're correct, that's why you have to resort to personal attacks. But I'm glad to be living rent free in your head as a recognizable artist :)
>>724162401I recognize you as a bad poster, there's nothing that stands out about your AIslop compared to the others.
>>724160003Temtem's also looked ugly as sin. Like the only one that doesn't was the blue duck.
I hearby recognize you as "kujeesh" and "a bad poster".You may shitpost the bride.
>>724161404Not all images are art. If you are unable to understand why some images are considered art and others aren't, then you won't be able to understand why saying AI democraticizes art is ridiculous. Try reading about the history of various artforms and styles.
>>724162485There there.
>>724161638>AI spam makes everything so sameyThe Ghibli piss filter at least made it easy to ignore worthless posts on here for a few months
>>724156053they should, because then it becomes more obvious what the whining is about. "I'm a fatso but they need to democratize winning at sports so I can do it too"
>>724147102Given how little Nintendo actually spends on game development you know this is bullshit. Nintendo doesn't just want to make games cheaply, they want to make them for free and sell them for $100.
>>724162616The blue duck was a fakemon one of Temtem's kickstarter backers bought the rights to so they could put it in temtem.The best design in the game is one they didn't even make.
This question is aimed exclusively at people that are disgusted by AI in vidya: Is there any hope? Will non-AI games be a thing of the past within a few decades?
>>724162723They're art when at least 1 person decides they are. And you've lost this argument because you're ignoring the other forms of art that AI democratizes. >Try reading about the history of various artforms and styles.Okay. What do you want me to read so that I can think like you?
>>724163025>Will non-AI games be a thing of the past within a few decades?Yes.
>>724144089>maker of an AI slop-looking rip off tries to argue against other people doing what he didlmao
>>724163025>Will non-AI games be a thing of the past within a few decades?Soon there will be no part of vidya that isn't/hasn't been touched by AI. There'll be (if there isn't already) packaged in AI that analyzes your play behaviour and adjusts the game to boost your engagement. AI will control difficulty, matchmaking, what skins get advertised to you and when, probably all with the veneer that you're playing an AI-free game.Pretty much the only thing you have to look forward too is AI extensions of classic games or AI modding (also of classic games).
>>724163025If we're lucky, there will be a market for niche indie games that don't use AIBut AAA games will 100% become even more of a wasteland than they are right now.
>>724163025I'd be morally justifying in never paying for vidya ever again. My wallet would be thankful.
>>724163025Has anything in your life ever made you think that [Thing] will get better
>>724163646I don't need things to get better, I'd just like them to not regress into unplayability while I'm alive.
I've genned over 10 000 images and I haven't even tried anything other than Forge with CatTower.
>>724144134Lol at the cope comments.People will pretend like 4chan didnt popularize “based” and “boomer/zoomer” but they definitely did. People will pretend like wojaks and pepe which are everywhere also didnt get their spread from here. Redditfags are butthurt because they have NEVER had a cultural influence on anything. >but those things suck!Yeah, because they hit the mainstream. Thankfully SNEED is too high IQ of a meme for them to adopt
>>724163727>felipe godoyI laughed my fucking ass off. Who the hell is that?
>>724163821Zutt has managed to hit some sort of relevancy after years of /pol/ shartposts, it's never too late
>>724163821"Copium" is 100% not from here, though.
>>724163025It's only hopeless if you're a retard who still plays AAA megacorp slop.
>>724164080I think you're a bit too optimistic if you don't think the siren call is gonna affect indie developers too. And I just don't mean the "I Am Bread/Goat Simulator" tier indie devs. I mean indie devs that would actually make pure soul but can't resist taking shortcuts.
>>724163937https://rule34.xxx/index.php?page=post&s=list&tags=felipe_godoy+
>>724164175He already likes indie slop, nothing will stop him from finding that garbage.
>>724164175Hasn't Cris fallen to AI? If he would, any dev would.
>>724164221Shut up. I wasn't talking to you.
>>724164294Cris falling for AI is the least surprising thing ever.
>>724160003>If you ACTUALLY loved pokemon, you'd realize Palworld better deliveredDelivered on what you motherfucker? Palworld is literally a hodgepodge of various survival-crafting slops. There's no personality, there's no soul, and the only visual appeal is that its creature roster borders on Pokemon copyright infringement, it's not even a J-RPG equivalentlike, for example, Dragon Quest Monsters: The Dark PrinceThere's a lot of mockery about Pokémon animations, and Palworld's animations look like proper of a Chinese asset flip in many ways like the gliding.I'm not worshipping Pokémon, I'm simply pointing out the enormous hypocrisy of retards like you, who simply because they hate Pokémon, applaud any garbage that takes the provisional title of "Pokemon-killer"
>>724163145The idea of what art is, has been an incredibly divisive topic in history. Read about the history of photography as an artform. For many years, and even now, many didn't consider photographs art. (Personally I do, and even AI art is still art). However the idea of AI art democraticizing art is the same as saying all art is on the same level as AI art. And as this thread shows, many do not put AI art on the same level as other forms of art. You are claiming a total standard of art with your statement, which is why you should read the history of art to know why such a thing is ridiculous. Besides photography, you should read about Cubism and Impressionism as they were both art movements tackling the idea of what art was conceptually.
>>724164390>Palworld is literally a hodgepodge of various survival-crafting slops. There's no personality, there's no soul, and the only visual appeal is that its creature roster borders on PokemonAnd this is all it takes to be better than what lamefreak has been squirting out for decades now.
>>724163025pixel art games like in the SNES~PS2 era are dead and 2D anime is chock-full of CGI so probably
I can kinda understand the art aspect, but what's wrong with AI code? Let's say someone makes a game and they can't be arsed to make a jump function themselves, so they tell AI to write them one. Why the fuck do I as the consumer care? The idea behind it still has to come from a human I presume.
>>724160246I hate historical revisionism in the Nintendo brand. There's a reason I hate BotW and TotK with a passion, and how a gorillion journos lose their minds claiming every open world as Nu-Zelda's property, when it copied its essence from Minecraft, Bethesda, or Ubisoft sandbox schemesPalworld gameplay-wise is nothing alike Pokemon, they're two diametrically opposed and incompatible approaches on monster catching concepts, that's clear for everyone. But the truth is, Pocketpair's art department deliberately stole designs. I'm not even evaluating which game is better or not, I'm simply stating a fact. But you palshitters and pokehaters are getting mad about it.
>>724164680Then you're making the most pointless argument of all time. Art has a definition, it doesn't matter that coping retards try to refute that. Photographs are art. Sculptures are art. AI generations are art. Making art(in the original case, images) is easier now, thus it's democratized. That's it lol. I know about the retards you're talking about but I wanted articles or books specifically, since you brought up that I should read more. I've yet to see a good argument for the "I don't like how it's made so it's not art" argument.
>>724164934I think it has bad implications because it means people will rely on crutches like those and make spaguettis of code that they themselves didn't write, which makes it inherently more volatile and prone to errors later down the line, especially if they intend to change anything about how that shit works later.I don't know shit about programming, though, and I have noticed that, for whatever reason, established programmers seem to be more open to AIslop than established writers/artists/composers, which is definitely odd to me.
>>724161148AI is automated plagiarism, just a elevated form of the same.
>>724165183When you're plagiarizing something, you at least have full control of what you're stealing, even if you lack the understanding. As is very evident by every piece of AI artwork ever made, the plagiarizer is rolling the dice until he comes across that he thinks is good enough.
>>724164682If I like RPGs and the competitive model of Pokemon, I'm not going to prefer survival crafting, they're two different things
>>724147432This is a rodent.
>>724144189>nowEveryone except insiders/investors/spiritual investors hated it from the start. Also when you have millions of saars mentioning it thousands of times a day on every website people are obviously going to get sick of it.
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>>724163727Don't worry You'll eventually get over your fetish in a couple hundred of thousands of generations >T.slopper
>>724166637Wait until I upgrade my PC and get into video generation...
>>724166637hasn't happened to me and I've way ahead of you
>>724148102>SLACKING DETECTED, EFFICIENCY COMPROMISED>Deploy corpo drone #113 for immediate removal and replacement
>>724144089I will play AI games to make plebbitors and 4tranners seethe
>>724144189>"""people"""
>>724166997Same here. Using online video stuff just isn't the same as generating stuff on your own at home.
>>724165115Your opinion is not objective, many definitions for art are given but there is no universally agreed upon definition. However you seem too stupid to understand that.
>>724151134and if I shrink the sides of a rectangle it's a square.woah!
>>724167517I haven't talked about my opinion. There is a universally agreed upon definition.
>>724144089>ai slop copies of pokemon>against ailol
>>724163821
>>724168679What a funny rectangle
>>724144997>collapses in on itselfI like how no billionaires or researchers think this but middle class people online apparentluy can predict the markets better than them now.
>>724170685>implying he's even middle class
>>724144189at best it's only good for porn
>>724144089based but that's rich coming from the dudes who shat out pokemon with minecraft and guns and bought by sony
>>724170923why
>>724153848So AI is going to democratize art, except it isn't because only people with the requisite resources can use it. All so that AI grifters try to convince people to buy their slop instead of real art.
>>724144089I'm finna body nintendo for being copers fr fr no cap, finna talk like a ghetto nigga too cuh
>>724171197>As of late 2025, approximately 5.78 billion people, or about 70.1% of the world's population, use a mobile phone. There are more mobile subscriptions than people globally, with over 8 billion subscriptions in use.
>>724144089Based>>724144189GOOD MORNING SAAR
>>724171556you can't even run the most optimized models on a phone
>>724144189>tech companies proudly brand 'powered by AI' on services>the service is terribleAI is an emerging technology not ready for the masses and should have never been shilled so blatantly. Instead of stealthily implementing it, they're killing the sector by associating AI with shitty service.
>>724148003Dont worry all those accusations of ripping models is a lie since all the evidence they have is one image so its not really believable since they barely go into full detail that it’s probably just tracing which is still bad but isn’t really ripping a model from another game And if they did actually rip models they would’ve easily been caught since people could easy match the geometric shape and word of advice you shouldn’t take twitter accusations seriously unless there’s actual genuine receipts to actually back them up and most definitely don’t take any /v/ accusations seriously unless they can back it up
>>724171745You don't have to run anything, you just need the internet. The only people that don't have access to AI wouldn't even know what it is because they're super third worlders.
>>724150902I really don’t get how people think it was made with ai neither how they think it’s monster designs were made with ai since most of their designs are consistent despite them being heavily influenced which ai can’t do and the fact that ai wasn’t that really good at that time and was a subject that barely garnered any attention at allIm honestly starting to think its mostly just paranoia and not an actual talking point since its not really been proven besides a twitter post of the ceo joking with someone about ai
>>724173346AI has been good at making random pokemans since 2022.
>>724165472Nta but don’t you think there is potential in both of them and even if it’s "hodgepodge" survival craft game can’t they improve on it throughout the years to make it more enjoyable and entertaining
>>724173760Not really since they were either blobs or weren’t even the same creature hell it would probably take like 50 tries until it actually generated a actual creature that looked like a Pokemon that wasn’t just a blob
>>724173939stop lying fag
>>724144189>Spikes your electricity bill>Spikes your water bill>Ruins google image search results>Makes fraud easier>Makes scams easier>Makes contentfarm slop easier>Makes propaganda easier>Makes you doubt the person you're talking to online is even human>Generally makes every aspect of the internet marginally worse>Still no real product other than a glorified Google searchbar after trillions of investment and years of "research"How do people still LIKE ai?
>>724144089How did Palworld even get the reputation of being an "AI game" when it was first revealed back when image AI still could generate nothing but blurs that only vaguely resembled the prompt it was given?
>>724144089>MegabonkDogshit shallow streamer bait that rips off various game soundtracks but slightly changes them to avoid lawsuits.
>>724155175Nah, everyone here legit only hates on AI because of the usual suspects. You guys talk about them more than trannies these days, you'll make them tsu-tsu.
>>724151134Anyone who's actually topo'd a model before can tell you those are not ripped
>>724176939It's great in things like science, medicine, general research and development. There are been multiple groundbreaking developments directly because of it.Also countless tools for image, video, and audio editing/generation.But mostly porn. I can gen just about anything exactly how I want easily at home in minutes. It's fantastic.90% of everything that the tech bro billionaire retards have their shitty little fingers in is obviously going to be awful and evil though, that's true of literally anything. If billionaires got their hands on something that could cure every disease, end hunger and poverty and bring about world peace, they would still find some way to fuck over people and ruin countless lives with it. That doesn't mean AI can't be good.
>>724177135AI effectively just means "things retards don't like", and they didn't like Palworld because ummm pokemon.
>Not a single artwork posted.You have no right to complain if you don't even draw.
>>724177757Here, i drew this and i hate AI stuff, what now, little man?
>>724176939>>Spikes your electricity bill>>Spikes your water billonly if you're a cuck american>>Ruins google image search resultsit makes it better>>Makes fraud easier>>Makes scams easierthis only affects boomers>>Makes contentfarm slop easierone man's slop is another man's fun>>Makes propaganda easierand?>>Makes you doubt the person you're talking to online is even humanthen it doesn't matter. talking to others is for you.>>Generally makes every aspect of the internet marginally worsefalse>>Still no real product other than a glorified Google searchbar after trillions of investment and years of "research"falseyou didn't mention any of the positives, those are the reasons people like it aside from it making your american cuck life worse LOL
>>724144189Too on-the-nose about showing that as long as you create enough shareholder value, you are above the law and free to steal the words and works of every peasant in the land.
>>724176939>How do people still LIKE ai?The promise of a magic button that makes stuff for free is too tempting. Specially if they think they can sell said stuff
>>724144089this whole ai will change the future of gaming reminds me of when FMV was the new wave of the future. choose your own adventure style games with no depth or gameplay.
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>>724177815>posting your art in an AI threadheh amateurthanks for the artI made this
>>724178159>>724178292How could you taint my doodle like that!
>>724177135Because pokecultists are desperate to slander better games like Palworld in any way they can
>>724144089Based.
>>724178159>>724178292>AI art can do what millennial teens were doing on MySpace 20 years agoNostalgic but i am not impressed.
>>724178469I made it betterthank me
>>724154897The only way AI replaces tumblr artists is filling in the unwanted niche of making dogshit and ugly bootlegs of better artists. They don't solve the issue, they just reiterate it in another different but equally ugly way.
>>724178616It takes a lot of skill to draw like this.
>>724178551All i need to do is to draw small and crappy enough so the AI has no way to understand it.You have no power over me.Also no color.
>>724178973thanks again for the art, sucker!!!
>>724178719I explicitly stated they're bad. They are on par with AIjeets. They function the same way. Both take something good and run it through slop filters (In the tumblr artist's case, it's the toxoplasmosis and estrogen poisoning their brain, and in the Jeet's case it's a hallucinating GPU they're renting) and then demand to be seen as on par with artists worth a shit. If you don't understand, it's because you're brown and think both of these groups are fine.
>>724179221this one is janky tho
>>7241441344chan has been for normalfags since at least 2008 if not the beginning
>>724144189If you have any shred of humanity (aka you're not brown) you should hate AI
>>724179371yeah this one is closer to your design but the subtle smirk didn't show up like in the main image so it's not as soulful.
What's the fastest way to get Chromite? Started playing again after almost a year and apparently you need for advanced stuff.
>>724179457CUTE!
>>724179248I'm sure what you've created is far more important and worth everyones time.Maybe you should post some of it.
>>724179248you are so mad
>>724144089Just more lies
>>724179753this looks like a game from a an angry arttard than an ai enthusiast or actual normal ai gen user
>>724179221>>724179457Oh what the heck?!
>>724180963Holy shit you're still around?Holy shit I'm still around
>>724180963>>724181068now dress up like your favorite Pals and kiss
>>724181116Only if you're in the middle faggot
>>724144189it's a shit toy, i only use AI to gen porn to goon to every now and then
>>724144089>ai bad>using store assets and pajeets goodI have "indie" fatigue.
>>724181154my Celesdir costume isn't ready
>>724181116I already drew that but no way im posting it here knowing my doodles are getting compromised.
>>724181719it's all in good fun
>>724182241Its all fun and games but im getting my butt destroyed by AI that makes what i tried my best on to look like nothing.
>>724182663It's the equivalent of a filter, like adding film grain or sharpening.
>>724163821>People will pretend like 4chan didnt popularize “based” and “boomer/zoomer” but they definitely did.These meme words are great because when you see any post using them you can stop reading and completely disregard anything the underage retard said.
>>724182747Dont wanna beg but if thats the case can you do it one last time with this one (the costume one mentioned before)? Maybe i could learn something by seeing it well done on the same pose.
>>724144189Have a (You), i think you earned it
>>724154462Most of the internet's culture was nuked between 2014 and 2016. Companies and governments and NGOs blaming the internet for the US presidential election and then seeing it more than ever before as a place to control the global narrative, killed the vibe across the entire system.
>>724144189If AI takes all the scut work over, then there's no such thing as an entry level position anymore.
>>724183201so make your own company using AI
>>724182241>it's all in good funcorrecting someones art has never been "in good fun", if you guys want to be considered artists then you gotta stop saying "hey i fixed your art" when someone posts theirs
>Nintendo says ai bad>A month later pocketpair says ai badTHEY LITERALLY CANT STOP RIPPING OFF NINTENDO
>>724183514*turns you into squirrel stew*
>>724182909I'll give it a shot. it's not as much of a pokemon critter so it will take some fiddling for me.>>724183391>you can't have fun that waywho are you, the fun police?
>>724183726>who are you, the fun police?no it's called being normal, though I guess that might be a big leap for you
>>724183391Not that anon and also a unrelated question what do you hope for palworld’s transition out of early access im honestly curious what /v/ hopes and expectations for the huge update and im not taking falseflaggers replies seriously
>>724183814oh shit it's a normal policemanthat one seething anon who decides what's normal
>>724183514I know this bait but wasn’t nintendo’s marketplace flooded with ai games until people called them out for having it in their market place
>>724182909alright I give up, here's one of them though
>>724183391tumblr is that way
>>724179965it still got AI in it.
>>724184960this looks like slop tho. just look at zonkpunch or w/e like a normie
>>724184365Lol looks like a sailor moon-like girl.Thanks for trying, honestly i dont see much change other than the texture.May i ask how you do these?
>>724184039Yeah, for the same reason steam was. Has steam made efforts to crack down on them?I havent heard of it.What nintendo was talking about was unrelated anyways, they said they did not want to use ai in development and wanted protections for content so ai cant do ip theft (ai has the potential if, unchecked, to genuinely destroy legal protections for IPs, not just for nintendo, but literally anyone, and especially developers who dont have the lawyers nintendo has)Honestly, its best case scenario if nintendo can get legislation written to stop ai, it would have a knock-on of protecting much, much smaller entities.
>>724144089you have to be a retard to think that ai cant or wont be a useful toolhowever, you ALSO have to be a retard if you think ai is just going to do all of the work for you. ai will eventually be able to do maybe 70% of the work, but you will still need competent workers to USE the ai tool AND to fix, edit, and smooth over everything the ai compiles. also, you need workers to create the concepts and make sure everything is stitched together according to design. ai is just another tool.
>>724144089Palword has became Nortubel now
>>724185015But isn’t this in a way just for multiplayer entertainment just like jackbox im not really seeing the problem here its just a minigame if it was like scribble io but if it was imposter with ai added into it
>>724185276I was using a controlnet with your images as a base and this lora https://civitai.com/models/1097305/classic-ken-sugimori-pokemon-or-illus-stylethen the AI model fills in the blanks basicallyThere are tutorials in AI generals if you have a graphics card and want to do it yourself, it's really easy
Calling it now, easy access to video generation models will make all indie artists migrate over.The pain and tedium of animating by hand compared to just prompting and being able to break the animation at points to regenerate or edit yourself will be an absolute game changer.
>>724185294it can't do 70% because debugging takes longer than writing functional code in the first place. the fact it barely compiles is fucked up but it's not even the biggest issue
>>724185294Ai shouldnt be doing art, its soulless as fuck, but I dont see why people bitch about ai textures, or using ai to gen environments (how is that different from algorithm gens, except that it looks better?), and ai can also be used to keep music consistent, people keep bitching that the newer zelda games dont have the same sound as the old ones because they dont realize its a different composer, I dont think nintendo cares, but if someone did care about being consistent, an ai can help identify the "sound" of an existing composer. Mostly though, I think ai should be used in coding. Coders already get paid too fucking much to do nothing, and ai is already kindof okay at it...right now the problem is frequent hallucinating, so you have to be super diligent with the ai and make constant backups in case it changes something important, I spend the latter half of my week trying to un-fuck the code on a game because the retard ai started hallucinating symbols that arent in the language and fucking broke the whole thing....but other times the ai has done just fine, great even.
>>724185616yeah but remember it was even worse a year ago.I dont think hallucinations will ever stop, but I think it will be a good programming tool in the next five years.
>>724144089You're huffing pure copium if you think this isn't going anywhere. AI isn't a bubble (another cope) and will just keep getting better. Remember Will Smith eating spaghetti from 3 years ago? Now Sora AI videos are everywhere and are in a lot of cases hard to tell apart from non AI videos. Most people that "dislike" AI only do because they think it looks bad. That won't be the case forever or even much longer. There's already a lot of cases where it already does look good. Once quality AI starts becoming widely used (very soon). Most people will accept it with open arms. Anyone who doesn't will just be like the retards fighting against the internet in the 90s.
>>724185675>AI should only be used for what I think it should be used for because muh feelingsSuch a retarded post.
>>724185486Oh i asked an artist i know about that "lora" thing and he told me my card wont work with it so i gave up.
>>724185757was it? LLMs are like the same leve asl 1 year ago. i don't really see any gains in output quality. it still spits out slop when you ask it to do something more complicated than undergrad assignment.
>>724185483A developer claiming to be anti-AI by principle would not literally add AI image generators into their game.
>>724185796brown hands lmao
>ai stolen asset flip game wants no one else to steal assets with ai
>>724185824Yeah that's not enough vram and AMD is a pain in the ass with AI stuff
why do we have daily anti ai art threads, its the exact same fucking conversation every time. The same way as the endless zoomer-boomer-millenial cancer threads.Nuke this board already, better yet, nuke the website for good this time. The place is overran by too many underaged third world children at this point.
>>724185284>has steam made efforts to crack down on it Compared to Nintendo’s marketplace its not really hard since steam has way more games being distributed to it so its almost impossible to filter out all the ai games and yes they did try to prevent the distribution by preventing the use of nft and crypto use in games that prevented a huge chunk of ai games from getting distributed onto the platform difference is idk why pocketpair should be punished for a small thing like even though i don’t agree with a lot of things they do but to me its not like its some huge project like catly. but i do agree that games shouldn’t be developed with ai but my perception and prejudice is kind of mixed here since it’s just minigame and im unsure if its even a paid game but i had already said this statement right here>>724185483
>>724185980yeah, hallucinations are down.
>>724144089Deeply ironic coming from the AI of devs, but whatever. It's going to happen whether they like it or not.
>>724186036That was made in 2022 which could’ve mean they’ve changed their stance on it and i don’t think it’s any better deleting the game right now since people would probably see it as a rugpull and just a PR move which is impossible to prevent people nowadays from thinking everything is a pr move and i don’t know what their thinking And second note im just being optimistic since its just a game thats like scribbl.io but if ai was integrated into it and the fact i haven’t seen any other recent news or any other incriminating evidence that was thrown at Pocketpair
>>724186330not even openai really claims theyre down. the way they do benchmarking makes no sense too.
>>724186036Devs who hate stuff will gladly put whatever they hate in a game in order to make fun of it.
>>724144385This would be cool if it was AI dungeon with FMVToo bad they're a bunch of faggots>A BLOOBLOO what if le AI makes photographic CP a BLUBLUBLOOO
>>724185526why would I bother playing your game if you couldn't even put effort into making it?
>>724187192They dont? seems like everyone I've seen using it finds less errors from gpt5 than 4 and 3, some small studies on dev.to agree...its not a massive improvement, but its enough to think that its reasonable that in a few years it will be more functional than it is now.I feel like something strange is going on though, as I swear 5 got worse recently, even absolutely babysitting it I still had to re-write everything it gave me, but that could be coincidence.
