XCOM 3 when?
>>724154994Never.
>>724154994Best Firaxis can give you is a Xcom reboot remake and somehow they'll manage to dumb it down further and ruin the atmosphere and art.
Give me suggestions for game mechanics etc, and I'll pass them on for you.
>>724154994i don't want firaxis to make any more games
>>724156983I just want action points for movement. And actual ballistics, holy shit.
>Firaxis make XCOM2>sells well but not well enough to recoup production and advertising budgets>2K demands that the next XCOM be more profitable after WOTC and the other DLC for 2 only just covered their costs. >next is fucking Chimera Squad that bombed because it looked like rancid shit nobody wanted to suffer through.>"don't worry dear publisher, our Marvel™ strategy game Midnight Suns™ will turn things around provided that you invest heavily in advertising it!">2K do not invest heavily in advertising >Midnight Suns proves marginally profitable only after all planned DLC is finished>"2K, give us money to make XCOM3 now please!">"no."Firaxis are permanently the Civilisation™ company now, until they get bought which won't be too long if the new one doesn't exceed profit expectations.
>>724156983make every soldier a token on the blockchain
>>724156983bring back action pointsi played Reverse Collapse the other day after an endless stream of those two action system games and damn did it feel good
sextoids
>>724157249Shame that Phoenix Point is shit
>>724157302You forgot the biggest part, that Jake left after Midnight Suns flopped and won't be making new strategy games.
Never. XCOM 2 and the spinoff didn't make buy-another-superyacht-tier money so Firaxis doesn't get the funding to make another.
>>724157615I'll never forgive Gollop. Worst thing is, the alpha had potential and they fucked up.
>>724154994Hopefully never
>>724154994The dev responsible for nuXCOM left a couple years ago. It ain't happening Chief.
>>724154994Alien invaders are NOT your enemies, goy.
>>724157615He had some good ideas but god damn that artstyle alone was enough to make me throw up. It was nothing like the early teaser trailer.
>>724157832Hey at least Gollop is working on the Frosthaven digital version. So there will be a strategy fix there. The game is friendslop however
>>724157938we. are. one. galaxy.
>>724157615>>724157832I thought it looked alright and thinking of getting it. Why is it shit?
>>724158019It's quite enjoyable actually. nuxcom babbies just cant adapt.
>>724154994Never. And even if we got it, it would be turbo garbage. They'd probably do something as retarded as make it an rts
>>724158019Horrible pace. DLC makes the game worse. Bugged and janky. Horrible art and writing.It's not what it was selling at the crowfunding.
>>724154994After civ 7? They dont have the money.
>>724154994I wish there were more turn-based spectacle games. It's hard to replace that feeling you get bringing along 2 grenadiers armed to the teeth with grenades and rockets laying waste to the area, or watching a beserker/sectopod/andromedon start barreling through the area or violently exploding, destroying walls and floor and leaving fire and destruction everywhere.
>>724158203Like Apocalypse?
Never. You didn't buy and/or like Chimera Squad enough.
>>724157302No way X Com 2 didnt money. I think its heavily over rated and nobody plays tactical RPGs but I still dont believe you.
UFO remaster soon
>>724157615what about the fan made mega mod to it which people say fixed the gamehttps://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=2872311902
Unironically never.>First game was a financial flop because they spent years remaking the first game, nearly finished it, then Jake Solomon said "I don't like this" before redoing the entire game from the ground up in what's now known as the Firaxis XCOM style.>Expansion was released to recoup losses with mixed reception as some people were happy to have more in a barren game while others thought the mechanics were ass>Sequel comes out, using the same engine and lots of asset flips>Is an enormous financial flop compared to the first game>Mobile spinoff comes out to see if they can afford to make extremely low budget titles, flops>"XCOM team" gets sent to work on a Marvel game after shelving the IP as Firaxis thinks that XCOM just doesn't sell>Creates yet another flop, entire team disbanded>IP is permanently shelvedIt's never going to happen.
>>724158019I hope you enjoy aiming at an enemy that your soldier can "see", then realizing you can technically see 5 pixels of a claw or leg, then cancelling the attack command so the enemy continues its animation and sticks out one of their limbs far enough so you can actually hit it. Because you'll be doing that a lot.It also feels very generic (art, writing, tactical maps) and the balance and progression isn't great. Also very buggy but maybe they fixed that meanwhile
>>724158019It's pretty good. Not casual enough for nu/v/ faggots who only play Xcom 2 autistically over and over again because that's literally the hardest game they're able to play
>>724158434>>First game was a financial flop because they spent years remaking the first gameIm fascinated but this is a hard read. Slow down and use more nouns Anon.
>>724158301Don't know, I'm not a fag who pretends to play old xcoms
>>724158434why would anyone want xcom3, everyone responsible for xcom1/2 left the company and current firaxis is just HR and incompetent diversity hires, do u want another civ7 repeat but with xcom3, killing the franchise for 30years? Just fucking play modded xcom2
XCOM 2 was 10 years ago
Do you really want an XCOM3 after you've seen the Chimera spinoff or whatever the fuck it was called?There's no talent left in that studio.
>>724158434how is 2 a flop? it apparently sold 4 million units, 500k of which were in the first week
XCOM3 after Chimera squad: you command the United Earth Police Forces that hunts human who dare to question our values such as "Diversity is our strength".Obviously your squad consists of alien units only.
>>724154994Thankfully never. Marvel Midnight Suns needs a sequel though.
>>724159020Lot less than I would have thought. Civ 6 at 11m.
>>724158998the weird thing about chimera squad is the concept is solid as fuck, a blend of xcom and swat with cool ghost in the shell type stuff in it would be amazing
>>724158591You're a cunt, but I acknowledge that I'm a faggot fuck today, so I'll rewrite the first line as it's a whole story in itself:>First Firaxis-released XCOM was a financial flop because they spent years remaking the original UFO Defense>Jake Solomon, the lead designer for Firaxis XCOM and self-proclaimed fan of the original UFO Defense, states that the game they are making isn't fun>Jake Solomon went to Sid Meier after office hours and begged Sid Meier to take over the project>Sid Meier refused because he thinks the company needs to learn to make games without him>Jake Solomon comes to Sid Meier's office after hours every day for a week to play tabletop games to come up with ideas as they use pocket lint, coins, and office supplies on a piece of grid paper to come up with new mechanics>Jake Solomon takes all of these ideas and brings them to XCOMAnd that's why Firaxis' XCOM: Enemy Unknown turned out to be a near direct copy of common D&D/D20 rules, including move action/standard action/swift action/free action, and even using the same percent values for using cover.The funny thing is, this isn't conjecture. On XCOM's release in 2012, Jake Solomon did a ton of interviews to hype the game (and a release day video where he walked around Gamestop stores trying to get console gamers to buy XCOM because "it's kind of like gears of war"). This process was rather transparent because of his interviews.>>724159020Take-Two states that it was a flop. We can discuss what we think the development cost and revenue would be and why we think it is or isn't a success, but the people who own the studio said it flopped.
>>724154994In my fucking dreams.Actually, saying that, I didn't enjoy XCOM 2 as much. The gameplay was mostly superior, but the vibes completely changed. And also the soundtrack was better in XCOM:EU.I think I'd rather have another reboot or some other company makes a decent clone (not Xenonauts)I enjoyed it much more when it was the start of the alien invasion and nobody knew what the fuck was going on. Vibes unmatched. Then in XCOM 2 it's just some retarded rebellion against the oppressor type cliché, where XCOM 1 didn't matter because you lost, where a lot of enemies are humanoids now and the most powerful enemies for whatever reason talk to you in English and taunt you as if they aren't vastly superior lifeforms. They can't really make an XCOM 3 with this in mind.It needs another reboot.
>>724159236>>724159182if taketwo/firaxis seriously thought a turn based tactics game was going to be a hit with normies like civ6 they're delusional. no wonder jake quit
>>724159369>And also the soundtrack was better in XCOM:EUthey released absolute banger OST later https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RfE7Sx42ZLY&list=PLydXsA6zXiitzsl9JBCFsHGYPLeu_Bz8g&index=13
TFTD OST is my favorite
>>724157302>Well, at least we still have our golden goose, Civilization!
>>724159371I agree but BG3 will forever be our counterpoint. It has been done.
here's your hot videogame girl bro
>>724159857Its an exception, it was fraudulently attached to legendary franchise (while having very little to do it), had very lucky timing and got ridiculously good word of mouth marketing because it was a decent CRPG in a time where every AAA release was steaming pile of shit.
>>724159857but bg3 is much more narrative and character driven. i guess retarded game executives can't tell the difference though
>>724160078How the fuck do you even manage to turn this fucker into whatever gay frog like thing that is? At the very least they should have kept the mask. Jesus Christ those giant lips look so fucking retarded.
>>724157302Civilization is frankly dead with how Civ 7 went.
>>724160909i think she's supposed to represent strong black wymenremember the line "you fight like a woman" in the game?
>>724160078I swear the only good thing from this shit was the snek
>>724160078
>>724154994Final expansion and update for 2 then it needs a reboot. The first one launched among brown and bloom games so it stood out with its own saturday cartoons style. Now, they need to do the opposite and make it gritty.
>>724161216PREPARE TO WRITE DOWN THE RECIPE
>>724154994Hopefully never.After Chimera squad and the Chosen DLC I have no faith that the devs can pull off another competent XCOM game.
>>724154994Literally neverThe studio is basically deadThe xcom team either decided to or were forced to make some marvelslop piece of shit then proceeded to immediately dissolveAll that's left is the civ team and that's probably getting the axe soon too with how civ is going.The good news is that there are a billion decent clones nowadays, they are not quite as good unless you're really into the specific theme each is going for - like a 40k fanboy with Daemonhunters or something - but there's bound to eventually be a worthy successor to the series because the interest is there and the developers in this genre tend to be white.
>>724156983Just do what xpiratez does
>>724154994>XCOM 3 when?I don't really know where'd they go from 2, I know the ending didn't tie everything off but I don't see how they could do anything with a sequel that wasn't just>Ethereals are back at EarthAlso, they'd need an entire new retinue of ayy slaves to keep gameplay interesting. I know Chimera Squad gets tons of hate, but I did like the concept. I wouldn't mind if XCOM 3 focused on humans and ayys having to live together in an uneasy partnership just out of need. It would be interesting if we saw a campaign where a sort of council of all the ayys and humans created a UN of sorts where they combatted threats like terror/supremacist groups of various ayys and humans that popped up. We could see certain events that would make like the Sectoids or Mutons drop out of the council, and then you don't get anymore Sectoid or Muton soldiers and lose your current ones.
>>724161208Snek abs
I loved Xcom 1 but hated 2What games should I try?
>>724164204Do the exact opposite of this. >game has 5000 weapons and armors>only want to use 5 because the rest are dogshit cope>even the weapons designed for quirky characters with unfortunate stat spreads are dogshit because everyone instantly lines up to the same fucking stats anyway>which means that in a game where 99% of the missions are just timesinks, only 1% of your finds in the last 1% of the missions will even be interesting or worthwhile>the primary draw of the mod is the cute anime girls people post all over their discord, but the in-game girls are all disgusting haggard mutants that look straight out of VeilguardIf you want an OpenXcom mod to look toward, use virtually anything else at all.
>>724165452Im the oppositeBesides aesthetics and vibes 2 was such an improvement over 1 for me.
>>724165051Snabs.
>>724165574you didn't play the game or you're too low IQ to understand oldcom
>>724165452I really enjoyed King Arthur: Knight's Tale. It's more melee focused obviously. Also Hard West 2, but it's more arcadey and focused on fun combos rather than slow strategy
>>724159371Let me give you second-hand embarassment.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ypcFTRXPI3k
>>724165452That turn-based Gears of Wars game.
>>724159369>Then in XCOM 2 it's just some retarded rebellion against the oppressor type clichéIt's a fine direction to take it for a sequel, they just made the atmosphere too cartoony compared to EU.
>Warlock>Low profile>RegeneratorNooooooo god fucking damn it, run deadAnd how the fuck do I deal with early assassin when her stun move does like 4HP of damage?!
>>724166341be glad he doesn't generate shield on every miss
>>724166127Plus Enemy Unknown was already the ultimate alien invasion game. That's where all the previous sequels fucked up.
>>724154994I fear modern Firaxis would fumble it. They couldn't even get Civ7 right, given how badly it flopped.
>>724154994We've got the better XCOM3 at home.
>>724165452xpiratez?
>>724166341I'm sorry, but you have to waste a grenade slot on the Battle Scanners to reveal her first then shoot her before she hits you, it's a very early Research if I remember>>724166531I got that on Hunter my first time with Low Profilemy Chosens kept gettting Summon strengths my first time and I thought that was just how it went
>>724167160Kusoge. Wa.
>>724167160they make irene seem like the cover girl for the game and hype her up until you finally get her to join you, but she's literally just a side character whose relevance drops to 0 after joining
>>724167235>>724166341just move a unit to flank where she is obviously hiding (she moves straight for your team behind the literal first cover piece)
>>724167504I'm already hit at that point, without me able to do anything. The other two don't get a free hit on you when they move in.
>>724154994It's over.
>>724167597just use a reaper and win
>>724154994XCOM was perfect. XCOM 2 was wayyyy too hard so I never finished it. If they ever make XCOM 3, it should be easier
>>724159182I'm happy civ 7 probably sold like shit.Fuck take-two.
>>724167791>XCOM 2 was wayyyy too hardwhat the fuck man
>>724158434What mobile spinoff? The mobile version of xcom 1 is just xcom 1 with worse graphics
>>724167235just blow him up
>>724167791>XCOM 2 was wayyyy too hardcommander is way too easy when you understand which enemies you have to kill first and which can be left if you can't kill everyone during your turn
>>724167791>XCOM 2 was wayyyy too hardbruh
>>724167391>t. couldn't get into builds, got beaten on normal dificulty and dropped out after barely struggling through the tutorial
>Miss 93%>Miss 85%>Miss 68%Jesus FUCKING christ, last time I rush my team up to a half-dead Sectoid. Thankfully he wasted his move by dashing, but still.
>>724168589what does your reply have to do with anything
>>724168665skill issue
Anyone else think the Reapers are really really cool?
>>724168665you don't need to rush a half-dead sectoid. wait for him to waste his turn on some bullshit, then finish him off. he won't shoot you unless he can flank one of your soldiers
>>724169468reaper + banish + superior extended magazine + superior repeater = love
>>724169483But I want the loot
>>724169785collect the loot the next turn, what's the problem?
>>724169563Just got an improved vector rifle breakthrough after researching weapons modules. Tell your gods I'm coming!
>>724169468yes. i love soloing certain mission types with them
>>724169901too bad they never fixed the bug on the "kill a vip" mission typesthe game sotf locks you if you're soloing it with a reaper who hasn't broken his concealment when the reinforcements arrive
>>724170119firaxis are guilty of a number of crimes
>>724156983He DID invent fleshlight after all...
>>724154994If they made XCOM3 TFTD I would die from ejaculatory induced dehydration
>>724170383>TFTDJake (((Solomon))) said "never" to the underwater xcom. But Jake (((Solomon))) isn't here anymore
