Who is the target audience exactly?
Stop thinking like a soulless marketer for once. It's a game. See if you like it. Stop trying to put me in a box.
Seem to be the extraction shooter playerbase with enough casual touchups that will let them take a shot at the wider shooter/BR playerbaseAll I can say is that pretty much every single tarkov streamer is glazing this shit
>>724174326Me, my younger brother, his friends, 2 of my co-workers and their friends.
>good gameplay>immersive>arcs are cool>casual enough for shitters>no mandatory wipesanyone who likes shooters and having fun but the skins fucking sucks
Me, faggot. Its fun
>>724176898>but the skins fucking sucksDisagree, the skins are some of the best part of the game. It has a good retrofuture aesthetic without ever going full retard. Even the shit like random tubes is done with more class than something like Concord
>>724174326Not "muh single player" bitches that's for sure.
Wtf is an extraction shooter?3 team capture the "flag"?Does the item you have to extract change every round?
>>7241743261 in a billion unicorns that bounced off tarkov because they prefer third over first person >>724176898>>good gameplayno>>immersive?>>arcs are coolnobody will ever call the spiderbots arcs>>casual enough for shittersIf you play this crap casually you spend your entire time running around with a fucked up 10mag ak, only high tier sweats get to use fun weapons>>no mandatory wipesThis will be disastrous for player retention
>>724176975i like the astronaut and diving suit skins but i really dislike the gay ass tight pants in 95% of the skins
>>724177094you bring in a set of gear, your objective is to escape the map while grabbing anything you can carryif you die, you lose everything on you, permanentlyif you kill somebody, you can loot everything they brought in or found
>>724177094it's fortnite with inventory permanence
>>724174326You're favourite brotherman.
>>724176975I'd like some outfits that you would expect a postapocalyptic scavenger to wear.
Could just be another FotM game, we will see in a few months after release. I know a lot of Tarkov players liked it, but it will never replace Tarkov since Tarkov cannot die. It’s easier, more forgiving and more streamlined than Tarkov, so to a game developer/ corporation it should theoretically take over EFF but what we have all learned in the past decade is people won’t stop playing Tarkov because it is such a sweaty, autistic and brutal game.
>>724177171That doesn't sound fun at all. Sees like the best strategy would have other people waste time looting stuff and just kill them.
>>724177247cosmetic factions will be>the soft-rp unc (cowboy hat, bedroll, anything understated and realistic)>the faggot (loudest, flashiest rainbow colors)>the codkiddie (skull helmets and other tacticool sets)>the npc (space suits)
>>724177459it's only unfun if you are on the losing sidethis turns the game into a hypercompetitive enviroment where people will do anything short of straight up cheating in order to win
>>724177158cool
>no wipesthis is how tarkov wanted to be in the beginningwhy did it become a seasonal game?
>>724177734Because people slowly stopped playing, so they wiped progress and saw a big return, then they kept doing thatJust makes sense, shit like ark, rust and conan wipes too because these games have a pretty low progression cap
>>724177734literally everyone will want the seasonal prestige rewards since they're the long term goal, it's only optional for the casual players that barely play
>>724174326looked into it and game is woke with the body types and intentionally androgynous, flat chests, ugly chars. Dev openly woke on social media.1:40https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=slQmsd1PxUs&t=102s
>>724177094Tarkov likeSo the stuff you loot in raid can be stored and brought back next raid/sold to tradersInversely, dying mean you lost your gear and people can loot your body
>>724177379>t will never replace Tarkov since Tarkov cannot dieTarkov is starting to get really dated, I dont know if death is near but I'm pretty sure the peak is behind ust. 6k hours sweatlords
I can't help but see ABC Raiders each fucking time.
>>724176898>>good gameplay3rd person PvP and you can't do PvE in fear of attracting more annoying ass robots or better, more players to fuck your ass>>immersiveI'm italian and this does not look like post apoc italy.>>arcs are coolI cannot tell the difference between rollbots and firebots other than one is slightly bigger than the other.>>casual enoughas a semi casual player, I don't want to spend 15 minutes scavanging boring junk because the stupid crafting mechanics and then get camped at the exfil. >>no mandatory wipeswhich means that if you have sufficently good gear, you will objetivley stomp out players
>>724178778literally get gud not even joking
>>724178925how do i git gud at not getting 3rd partied?When you get downed, you launch a massive flare that tells everyone on the map "hey, this team is down a man! come kill them quickly!!"PvP is literally all corner peeking because it's in 3rd person with no antipeek protection, you tell me if that shit makes sense
>>724179056don't get into fights you can't afford, pretty simplepeek or not you would still be getting jumped on for having poor awareness
>>724179129you're a fucking mongrel, this game is for retards like you, make sure to buy the deluxe edition
>>724178585Yeah, it’s for sure dated and will never be as popular as it once was, but I don’t see it actually dying anytime soon. I predict Arc will take a bunch of Tarkov players but those druggies will come crawling back to Tarkov in a few months since they crave the weird MMO/RPG leveling system, masochistic quests, gun building, bullet physics, and first person Slavic setting.
>>724179279thanks for the recommendation, I just preordered!
>>724179056>how do i git gud at not getting 3rd partied?Dont overstay your welcome, pick your fight carefully, dont be afraid to disengage, keep a mental check of shots fired by weapon on the map and where they might be headed next, bonus if you can identify them by gunshots sound
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people have been comparing this to tarkov-- saying its better than tarkov, even.third person, shallowish progression,...barely the same genre. there is not gun porn, or tacticool larp. it's closer to concordi dont doubt someone could enjoy this, but doesn't feel like an RP looting/extraction game
>>724182491>but doesn't feel like an RP looting/extraction gameWat.What is it then?
#sistaswhocode
before it went pvp?melooks great runs greatbut they had to bow to their chinese overlords and scramble to cook up a god awful extraction shooter
>>724182491>...barely the same genre.It's 100% the same genre and it's even attracting the same playersTarkov is losing its slavjank aesthetic too btw, they're adding mall ninja shit every update, the last update was the Ak50, a litteral guntuber meme
>>724184130>Tarkov is losing its slavjank aesthetic too btwstill better than a generic 3rd person DEI aesthetic, lmao.>it's attracting the same playersthe Tarkov sloptubers being paid to shill this shit? lmao
>>724174326I don't like extraction shooters but after playing both Arc and Marathon I'd rather play Arc because the visuals don't fuck with my eyes
>>724178449Only one actually decent face, bodies are mega bland, outfits are so shit, and the hairs are all garbage except maybe the dual braid. The fact that they have a zoomer mystery meat broccoli hair fade is hilarious.
>>724184638>still better than a generic 3rd person DEI aesthetic, lmao.There's nothing DEI about arc raiderAlso yeah, tarkov vibe is going down the shitter
>Hear about this amazing, game changing, extraction shooter masterpiece for the last 6 months>finally play the playtest>it's complete garbage>uninstall after 5 hours>Download Duckov instead>40 hours and still goingDuckov won, SHART Raiders lost
>>724184036>their chinese overlordsCan we ask the overlords to force the team to make actually appealing customization? Everything about the player is so bad but the world itself and the items are pretty nice, and I like the focus on visuals and sounds
>There's nothing DEI about arc raider
>>724184786>Only one actually decent faceI must've missed that one
>>724174326Exit campers like myself.
>>724177158>>>no mandatory wipes>This will be disastrous for player retentionIts actually the one thing that got me on board. I have a life outside of vidya. Knowing that my shit will be there the next time I play is nice. Fuck tarkov and its wipes.
>>724185904You talk like it takes serious effort to get stuff if you lose it
>>724185694>Fly in your path
>>724186310It certainly can, and I don't have a whole lot of time to do what I did endlessly.
>>724174326>Who is the target audience exactly?It's Tarkov for trannies, it takes out all the icky things like White males, real guns and killing people.
>>724186401losing and gathering shit is the point, if you just want to log in once a week and tooty shooty play an arcade shooter
>>724185904>Fuck tarkov and its wipesPeople sinking from 800h to almost 1000h. With 1000h you can perfect life skill or play 10 AAA games of Witcher 3 caliber.
>>724185059Fugg it, never playd any games of this type but giving Duckov a go rn.
>>724186742>just think of all the AAA slop you could be playing insteadkek
It has that unreal engine 5 slop hazy generic look and the models look like Concord. Also the vintage style logo sucks and the vintage style is stupid.Not playing this slop
>>724186742And how many hours do you think were spent on Customs with a basic bitch loadout, running the same goddamn quests for the same goddamn loot wipe after wipe? Fuck that. It's a waste of goddamn time. And fuck that goddamn skills system too.>tee hee, you're an elite merc who can't shoot for shit and is functionally retarded so you need to learn how to shoot good>ALSO FUCK YOU FOR NOT LOGGING IN EVERY DAY
>>724186882your dad kek'd you in your sleep
>>724174326Nobody
>>724188383>game that comes out in 5 days has no viewersHoly shit anon, you might be on to something
>>724186368these things die fast if you can get above them and shoot down into the thrusters btw
>>724185904but the people actually keeping the game alive are like>okay I did literally everything, now what?>farms casuals for 200 hours>casuals quit>regulars quit>game dies in 3 months
>>724174326>>724178673>arc raiders>raiders of the lost arcit all makes sense now
>>724176898basically, this game is fun and looks good excluding the character designs/personalities they've imbued them with.I try not to pay attention to it and the player characters I don't mind much, you rarely notice anything they were. There's no achievement behind the cosmetics so nothing is of note
>>724189037That's litterally the cycle of tarkov and the game has been going for 10 years
>>724176898>3rd person shooter>immersive>good gameplay
>>724177661>short ofespecially*
>>724189204no the cycle of tarkov is>game dies after 3 months>gets revived after 9 months when it wipes
>>724189714That's not entirely accurate, the game get revived every major update, which almost always come with a wipeIt's gonna be the same shit for Arc, just without the wipes
>>724189714but that's what people like and want rightpoe dies after 2 weeks not even 1 month, but it's kept alive endlessly by the 6 month long leaguesrust servers now wipe daily or every 3 days instead of 3 weeks like before, or 3 months like way before, because players demand it
I like the skins, and I like the aesthetics of the game. I think Embark will do a good job with cosmetics, how they did with the finals which has a stupidly huge amount of shit to pick from. I also had fun during the playtest, but I can see the issues 3rd person will cause. The game would be much more interesting and intense if player models were blocked if LOS is interrupted for the avatar.
>>724190420is there any destruction like The Finals?
>>724190693no that would be too cool for an extraction game
>>724188653I mean, the game comes out in 5 days with no hype. Not a single ad or anyone talking about it anywhere.
>its a gay rainbowkids dont even know the atari logo anymore its obviously an 80s aesthetic
>>724174326Is this starlight? Starfield? Whatever it's called, putting a technicolor rainbow there seems to appeal to nostalgia fags.
>>724174326the modern audience