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If you were designing a game to scratch the Umamusume itch, but without all the bullshit, how would you do it?
I'll start with the low hanging fruit:
>In-game currency only gacha with a usable pity system
>Single player with peer-to-peer PVP as a side mode
>No timed or limited events and no RP/TP system
>Completely different spark/parent system to remove most of the RNG and grinding
>Better challenges for your legacies, including leagues and tournaments and relays
>No pointless obfuscation and hidden mechanics, including event choices and vague skill descriptions
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For the most part, I'd probably just lean into typical roguelite meta-progression
>Several difficulty levels that unlock progressively (like Slay the Spire) so you have longer-term goals to work towards in the absence of PvP grinding
>New umas/cards are unlocked and upgraded over time via gameplay, with no gacha RNG involved
>Add in daily challenge runs with weird conditions/restrictions to give players more variety
>etc.
Then make the VN side of things way more involved, with more branching paths based on how well your uma's career goes (eg. having Nice Nature grow more confident over time if she wins a lot, instead of acting like she's a hopeless jobber even if you make her an undefeated triple crown champion)
I'd also probably remove the parent/inspiration system entirely, and compensate by adding some other way to raise your uma's track/distance/style aptitudes
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>>724178991
keep everything the same but make the starting character rice shower instead of daiwa scarlet
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>>724179973
>I'd also probably remove the parent/inspiration system entirely
Personally I like the idea of a good breeding system, it's just that Uma's is especially punishing and anti-fun. I'd love a system that allows you to try and create the perfect lineage over many generations, sort of like in Crusader Kings. It could resemble real life genetics with good/bad genes, mutations, and inbreeding risks.
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bump
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>>724178991
Its kinda hard to imagine since RNG is so integrated into the game but I'd love to see something more user friendly
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>>724178991
The game is already pretty much flawless, bullshit is needed or it gets boring.
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I'd start by posting to /vg/ or /vmg/
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>>724178991
First things first, I would remove the character gacha all together and add unlocks for each character with themed missions (example: to unlock doto beat opera by a distance, to unlock rudolf win the triple crown while undefeated, etc)
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>>724182106
>user friendly
That reminds me, a better game would need a UI that isn't dogshit
>Better sorting and filtering options in your big list of legacies
>More options for favorites than just a single carrot stamp, maybe allow customization options for the portrait and frame to tell each legacy apart
>No UI lag
>No schizophrenic Japslop button layout
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>>724178991
Some ideas I would implement as someone who hasn't played the game (yet, waiting for half anni to start so I can reroll) but Is familiar with it.
>Expand the legacy system to be more in-depth
>Expand the VN aspects into full character routes with different endings
>Make the characters either free DLC or unlockable
>Give all scenarios a different purpose to remove the "powercreep" issue that wouldn't exist in a PVE game
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>>724182461
Pretty sure all those things are features in JP. You can even customize your profile in depth in JP with editing your trainer license but you are correct in a full release the UI would be an issue
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>>724182395
>>724182769
I almost feel something would be lost without a gacha mechanic (obviously not a paid one). It is fundamentally exciting to pull a girl you like.
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>>724182910
I agree that it's part of the game but just as how exciting it is it can be frustrating, I say an unlock system would be the best because it gives you a goal to work towards in which the reward would be guaranteed, as a compromise MAYBE you could have some sort of grindable currency to pull on the banner or spark a copy. This would keep the excitement because imagine being spooked by someone who has a very difficult mission and you really wanted. Maybe that could also be the only way to get dupes
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>>724178991
By making a fightan
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>>724183265
Apart from racing this is the only theme I can think of to base a game around in this genre, and it's already taken by monster rancher. Besides, I can't imagine how team trials would work in a fight.
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>>724182910
Kinda hard to make the gacha system work without it being frustrating or feeling like a gamble. If you make the currency too abundant then it's just an RNG check to see if you pull the one out of hundred, If its too limited its a mega grind. So what do you propose?
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>>724183265
This could work if you use those VR devices from the fantasy event as the main plot
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>>724182910
Yeah, the deeply ingrained RNG along the short time between CMs means that (mostly) everyone has to work towards a perfect goal with suboptimal components and you can stop at any point you feel satisfied with your results, at least for me it feels rewarding theorycrafting what would be my best options with my current cards and parents and then watching my umas perform well after dozens of runs, especially when they beat someone with far better cards

A system where everyone gets everything means that its easier to get optimal results and the meta settles into a much smaller pool
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>>724178991
>No timed or limited events and no RP/TP system
To me you'd have to rework the events completely because functionality they're nothing more than a grind. Maybe like a mini scenario that changes your main scenario slightly?
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>>724183265
>Fuku's level 3 has a 7% chance to insta-kill
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>>724179973
Umas should be unlocked when you achieve certain goals, like winning the triple crown undefeated unlocks Rudolf, winning a sprint G1 after failing to win a G1 of a longer distance unlocks King Halo, etc etc.
You of course start off with the same Umas you get from your first 10 pull but besides that i think it'd be the best way to go on about this, even if it starts getting a bit complex to think of ways to unlock Umas past a certain number (because, Jesus, there's a lot of horses deserving a spot and some of the big hitters arent here yet like Contrail or Equinox).
>parent/inspiration system
I wouldnt remove it, but i would also change it so its not a complete rng and grindfest, some Umas should give stats and sparks that SHOULD be very efficient for certain Umas (like Sprinters should give good stats for other Sprinters like Speed and Wit) but also extra sparks that work for others, emulating how not all horses are bred together just because of their pedegree in certain races (Stay Gold was desired because in spite of his poor G1 records he was really durable for a throughbred, Kitasan has great lungs, Tachyon had insane burst speed, etc).
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>>724183794
Yup, part of the appeal is making things work with what you have, being making new legacies to make up for your lack of good cards or trying a weird approach and discovering something that works
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>>724183824
Limited events fundamentally don't make sense outside of live service, so yeah I'd just replace them with a meta-progression of scenarios. The game would have to change as you progress so that the meta constantly becomes outdated and you have to play a different way.
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>>724184074
>Umas should be unlocked when you achieve certain goals
This, it's just like every rougelike. Hell every uma already has an unique epithet with varying levels of difficulty. THOSE should be the conditions to unlock them
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>>724178991
I'd give everyone infinite currency so that you can play like a sandbox, though i imagine without a sense of progression it would get boring quickly
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>>724184379
>The game would have to change as you progress so that the meta constantly becomes outdated
Then wouldn't it be a live service?
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>>724184643
You could still achieve the same effect in a single-player game, even assuming there are no patches. The meta progression would be either pre-scripted or procedurally generated with enough variables so as to be unpredictable.
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>>724178991
>Tickets average in math is a 22%
Fucking grim
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>>724178991
Isn't that what monster rancher is? Or is that another gacha too
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>Cannot stand still for a single moment
She has Umautism isn't it?
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>>724185229
I don't know much about monster rancher but I don't think it has any meta-game aspect to it, as in competing with characters you've finished training.
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>>724178991
I think CMs could be more interesting if each one had a somewhat random pool of what runners you could field (and this pool would be the same for everyone). With different possible teams it wouldn't be possible to "solve" a CM ahead of time, as depending on the pool you'd have to prepare for different scenarios. For example, Cancer with and without Seiun as a possible runner would be very different, Taurus with or without Nature would also be very different. Meta runners like XOguri wouldn't always be available so less risk of getting sick of always facing/running her. Maybe the same could be done for support cards.
I really feel that the "make do with what you have" part of gacha can be quite interesting, so I'd want to preserve it, and this might be a reasonable way to go about doing so after getting rid of the monetization and letting you acquire horses and cards through other means.
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>>724184952
If only she was allowed to wear her racewear everywhere.
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>>724185542
This would be fun, it would also allow you to tweak your strategy every CM into countering a different meta threat every time
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>>724185542
I'd love a CM that restricted everyone to using Urara, Tickezo, Rice and other lower-tier runners.
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>>724185469
You can "PvP" if you share monster codes. Know people do tournaments like that
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>>724185910
Sure, I've seen some YouTubers do that recently, but I imagine it would get old pretty quick
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Is this the thread? This was my first attempt at a Guts Tachyon. She's doing well stats wise but she has nothing to compete against strong umas in the last spurt. Not really worth doing unless you can't get the stat requirements by normal means.
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>>724178991
Expand the card system so its not gacha dependant, you can buy items from the shop that enhance the status of support cards.
Some extra OP effects trigger if met with specific standards.
Keep the gacha but give the player options to upgrade shitty cards and so on. You can tell I don't like power creep in uma musume
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>>724186248
maybe? Too witlet to know this looks good anon, have you tested her out? Only thing is power looks a little bit low
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>>724186248
Does Guts really scale well at those numbers?
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>>724186248
I gave it 2 attempts, this one has 2 gold recovery and has beaten my oguri ace a few times.
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>>724179973
>I'd also probably remove the parent/inspiration system entirely
faggot
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>>724186292
Has there been significant power creep? I haven't noticed, I havent pulled since kita
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>has there been
There will be. Buckle up.
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>>724186371
>have you tested her out?
Yes. She doesn't gas out but as i mentioned she doesn't really have anything to compete in the last spurt so she is not very consistent.
>Only thing is power looks a little bit low
i had shit tier parents so this is about as good as it gets.
>>724186381
>Does Guts really scale well at those numbers?
It works only on Tachyon because of her ult+stat distribution
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>>724186628
Have you noticed WHEN she starts her last spurt, that's fully dependent on stamina ans you might be starting late due to that
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>>724186602
>>724186510
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>>724186510
Basically it depends on what you are, F2P are by far missing out on a lot of cards that have a lifespan of 4 months but are strong enough to be relevant in boosting uma's rating.
You aren't missing out too much but you are slowly lagging behind the others who use their credit card
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After the heartbreaking scenario record Oguri with long S, I did another try and got an even better one where the medium S hit. I seriously hope that this is enough stamina.
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>>724186248
This was not intended to be the thread, though I would appreciate directions to the thread
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>>724186505
Did you prioritize guts over speed training? How do her skills look like?
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>>724186510
With Umas, a bit, some of the new releases get absurd unique abilities and inspirations that make them OP as racers or as parents but the true criminal in all of this are the support cards since some SSRs last less than a year in relevance in JP (i.e Tachyon's SSR speed), there's few mainstays like Kitasan Black and Kitasan gets replaced by Almond Eye's card at one point.
Some of the mainstays like Super Creek SSR do stay relevant tho.
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>>724186774
SPLIT YOUR LUNGS WITH BLOOD AND THUNDER
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So it turns out that a 4/1/1 deck can just magically work. Pic related is my first attempt with it, and it's better than any 4/2 and 3/2/1 attempt I've made for Leo. She has a lot of effective HP, so even rushed or 3+ gold drains should leave her unfazed.
A big thank you to the anon that suggested the 4/1/1 approach.

>>724186248
>guts Tachyon
I tried this for a few daily borrows but didn't end up getting anything that can survive multiple gold HP drains. Know that Unruffled can actually proc, though I don't know how consistent it is. I tried my guts Tachy in one practice room and there it worked, is all I can say.

>>724186510
Powercreep mainly comes in the form of new scenarios, though newer cards will eventually have multiple gold skills as well. On the Satono island scenario you can easily get 5k+ skill points, for example.

>>724186774
>almost 1k power with those speed/stam stats
I'm jelly, that looks like a solid Finals A winning candidate.
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>>724178991
>Single player game
>Every mechanic is much more in depth
>spanning multiple years
>(You) pick an Era/generation
>(You) are a no name new trainer in the locals
>(You) have to pick which uma (all mobs) to train, no stats shown, you have to manually look at them and figure out their running style, stamina, aptitudes, etc. Based entirely on how they run
>have to manage not only training travel times, stress, injuries, diet, dance training, supplementary lessons if they're failing, retirement, etc.
>over the years you have to work your way up to the URA and get your notoriously hard training license for Tracen
>at that point you have to manage a team of multiple umas, the stronger ones won't give you the time of day since you're still a newbie
>Getting a G1 win is incredibly hard just like real life
>named umas serve as final bosses for them
>fail too much and you get your license revoked
there, it would be a copy of something like the sports manager games, i doubt cygays would really entertain the idea but it could work as a fan game
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>>724186774
Deck please
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>>724186774
Fuck you and die
What kind of deck gets you this?
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>>724186774
THAR SHE BLOWS!!!!!!
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>>724186935
why are joe and spicanigga blushing
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>>724186774
I'd be slightly worried with the lack of mid race skills to compete but she looks completely immortal
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>>724186935
I would buy this
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>>724186774
THE DEVOURER OF WHALES
THE BEAST OF KASAMATSU
OGURRIII CAPPPPUUUUU
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>>724186817
I prioritized whichever had more rainbow training. Could have grabbed some more midgame speed skills.
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>>724186736
>Have you noticed WHEN she starts her last spurt
The only time she didn't spurt was when she didn't proc her recovery so i believe she's just not a good uma when pitched against cracked training room maniacs.
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>>724186935
Wait, so you're turning this into a multiple choices VN?
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>>724186939
>>724186954
Just insanely lucky. The run was looking like prime glue until summer camp. Had ~340 speed entering summer camp, hits two huge rainbows which gets her just about back on track. Then she gets fast learner and senior summer gives two more 100+ stat gain rainbows.
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>>724187052
PoC and slipstream is more than enough, remember that fronts go slower during mid race
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>>724187181
>Introduction to Physiology
I'm so sorry. I'm sure you'll get her lab coat soon.
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>>724186774
I got incredibly close to an uma like yours but i got fucked HARD by the RNG at the very end, im jealous
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>>724187368
>20/100
yeah.. soon..
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>>724187321
Lucky bastard, congrats. Surely you will lead the pequod against the whales?
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82504432
random mood
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>>724187623
>awful mood on the ace
every time
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>>724187542
Don't worry anon, legend race in a year :^)
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>>724187369
Never give up, that Oguri had night owl which didn't took two turns to cure, and migraine which also took two turns to cure. Then huge rainbows happened and everything was fine.
>>724187605
I will be there, waiting for the gates to open.
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I want to be released from this cardcel hell...
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>>724187283
More like a genuine take of all the intricacies of horse racing adapted to the series with all the things the game and anime glance over like traveling across the country and having to scout your opponents to figure out a strategy, it would be more focused on (you) as a trainer rather than the umas you train, imagine having to tell a mob uma that she's retiring because she isn't performing well
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>>724187623
>neither of Oguri's gold recoveries procced
Pain.
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>>724187826
nevermind, she won anyway
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>>724187321
>>724186774
I feel like you could hit that a lot easier with King Halo and Kitasan instead of sweep if you get both to rainbow levels early. A set of stam parents and 3 power cards with high mood/friendship and creek. If you're running ogurin the event scarlet's race planner tends to be more relaible and cheaper than BoFA and you'll be able to fit more skills. King and Kitasan would also subsidize Swinging Maestro.
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>>724187623
Post podium
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>BNE movie: explores the ideas of how imposter syndrome and lingering regrets can lead to life ruining mental blocks if untreated
>BNE in-game: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i8HMGZmhbSk
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>>724187623
doto is so fucking strong
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>>724186774
Why do people never take corner connoisseur? This race ends in a corner doesnt it
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>>724188305
it will proc on the first corner 99% of the time and be completely useless
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>seiun ace attempt (only requires 2 greens from sparks/hints/race rewards for groundwork)
>got medium S
>no groundwork inspiration
>didn't even get the last green skill for it
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>>724187979
Then everything is randomised, but has enough room for strategy
I have never heard of a game like this before but sounds autistic enough to work
>Game starts by making you fill out paperwork
>You will have to pay taxes to renown your license
>There's the option to lie about your income which will help you save money at the risk of being caught by authorities
>Bribing other trainers to give you info of their own umas or the umas themselves to job the race
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>>724186912
>the 4/1/1 approach.
what is this?
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More CM rooms

23206447
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Help out a soon to be new trainer, I'm gonna start with the half anniversary. Should I reroll for the riko card?
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>>724188608
Not that anon, but 4 speed/1 power/1 stamina.
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>>724188646
Yes, rerolling for good supports will make your experience much smoother. Riko is a good starting out, but don't settle unless you also score one copy of Kitasan and Creek SSR.
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>>724188635
>Selecting my team
>Quickly check to see how full it is
>Insta full
Wew
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>>724188646
reroll until you get kitasan, new trainers don't care about the meta cards
uncap her to 2lb with the items we'll get during second anni, then wait until kitasan's rerun to fully mlb her
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>>724188635
Good race, nice umas
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>>724188646
If you're going to reroll for anything, your biggest priorities should be Kitasan Black SSR and Super Creek SSR. Both are generically strong cards that will remain viable for at least 2 years or so
Riko is apparently really good short-term, but will have a far shorter shelf life than those two and should thus be less of a priority. As a new player you shouldn't be worrying about competing in PvP anyways
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>>724188793
that's why you make your own rooms anon, like this one 47231688
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I'm genuinely surprised how difficult building front runners is. I was underestimating people in cancer complaining about how difficult groundwork hell is until it was my turn
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Luckchads please....send me your energy this is my last borrow. I just want an usable ace.
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>>724188635
Results, no fronts.
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/v/ma bros I give up on this game, I will collect my shit at the end and quit, my name is
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>>724189114
Ooooooohhhhh great shiraoki sama please grant this anon the luck he needs to get an A+ Fukukitaru with this 7!
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>>724189025
Word. I don't think I'll pull for any front umas. I'm just using groundwork loaner parents to create front blockers, since it feels less CBT
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>>724189172
>my name is
Chrono-Chan works fast....
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>Instantly full

I see, the trick to getting into a room, is this

63675219
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>>724189114
If this post ends with a 7 you will definitely get all the relevant aptitudes and no bad moods!
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>>724188979
>it's another lucky pace chaser leads the entire race and wins episode
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>>724189114
Don't rely on us.
1 and this is the run.
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I'll be able to join practice rooms soon....this run will be the run...
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>>724189485
Holy fuark a front won

It was worth going through groundwork hell, eh Anon
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>>724189317
Thanks for bringing summer maru, I wanted to try this daiwa blocker, seemed to work.
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I know it's early but fuck it, someone choose one of my Virgo aces. I have two on lockdown, just need a third.
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>>724189702
That was really weird, she somehow activated angling but Doto was on her ass. Awesome race guys
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>>724189317
Another Dotochad winning.
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>>724189784
>I know it's early
Virgo is in 3 weeks brother
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>>724189784
The gundam horse.
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>>724189784
Taishit
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>>724189784
Bakushin ace. I sentence you to 300 years of Groundwork farming
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>>724189784
Who are your other two?
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>>724186774
Holy luckGOD
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Gentlemen, what would w first rate trainer do?
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>>724189945
Teio and Taishin. When I get Tamamo all my slots will be filled but for now, I'll let you guys decide my third.
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I got a nice Maya that can compliment my Evil Nature, now I need an ace
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>>724189853
oh the daiwa doesn't have enough stamina to finish the race, she just has angling to win races in the career. her job is to deny angling from other fronts, then die and get passed by doto so her unique triggers.
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I wonder how there are so many spic memes considering the game isn't even in english
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>>724178991
why would you recreate something that's already as good as it can be?

>>724182130
this, the rng is all the fun
taking that away is a midwit move
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>>724189784
Fuji
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>>724189981
Speed, the others are already snowballing, without luck getting brian up before summer camp is hard
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>>724189981
Easily guts, more stats, and getting rainbows online is very good.
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>>724190025
oh it's you, going full waifufag all the time is something none of the other top trainers on these threads do, very underrated toreina...
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>>724189981
Easy Speed, it's almost the same amount of total friendship + loli points + levels speed training which you want at higher levels.
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>>724190061
who can defeat CURI Musume
who can also defeat TONGUE SATONO DIAMOND
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>>724189981
Speed, Brian has a hint too so you might get something good like right handed, medium corners.
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>>724189981
>those speed bonds
>in sep
give up the run
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>>724190061
>When Halloween is over but rice shower is still hanging from the tree
Chuckled
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>>724190061
When something japanese becomes popular enough it becomes mexican
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>>724190175
get off tracenchan, tazuna
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my first A rank let's go, took me 4 attempts and almost gave up
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>>724190061
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>>724190175
Its not that bad, the only one that's abysmal is brian.
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>>724190254
like dragon ball
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>>724189981
WIT!
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Would (You) actually take a job at tracen? I think it would be way too stressful for me
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>>724190502
Thankfully Brian doesn't need friendship to work.
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>>724190598
Sure
Think I could be a janny or a late night security guard, maybe a cook
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>MIIISSS VIC-TO-RIIIII AAAAAAAA

KINOOO
can't wait until it gets added to global and never get it
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>>724190598
Tracen probably has a lot of jobs besides toreina, they have a fucking PMC so I'm sure theres a job for everyone in its structure
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>>724190354
congrats bro
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behold, the LEO cup winner.
OGURIII CAPPUUUU
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>>724190771
Do they have late night security guards? I swear half the trainees have an event that involves breaking into the school at night
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>>724178991
>If you were designing a game to scratch the Umamusume itch, but without all the bullshit, how would you do it?
Why isn't there an actual racing game with uma?
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>>724190354
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>>724190879
THE NEFARIOUS HILL RAKER
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>>724190926
>Racing game
If it doesn't play like Sonic Unleashed I'm not buying it
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>>724190926
Because the racer but actually characters running thing is a pretty weird subgenre of racing games, probably due to Sonic R.

It was also be harder to play on phones. Menu based spreadsheet training sims can just be played with your thumb. Otherwise they'd make it some shitty soulless endless runner
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So no one is bringing front runners to Leo?
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>>724190354
Feels good, doesn't it?
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When is the Canada vs USA baseball game with the Jap superstar?
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>>724191056
Not no one, but less seem to bringing them. But I haven't played too much of the random rooms. It's hard to get a feel for what the general population will be doing. I do think you'll see a lot of S. Marus in Group A though.
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>>724191104
In like 5 minutes
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Finally back home, gonna do some careers while listening the /v/ musical stream
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>>724191164
Random rooms have a lot of fronts, but most of them are mediocre in my experience
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>>724191184
based, doing the same thing
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>>724190061
These spic mspaint memes are hilarious
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>>724191259
so true
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>>724191316
Lmfao
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>>724190923
if they have any, they're probably more for dealing with outsiders trying to sneak in than taishin breaking into the swimming pool at 2 in the morning again
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>>724190148
>>724190807
>>724191089
thx guys, f2p fag too which made it zll the more worth it
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>>724191089
This image will never not be funny
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>>724191184
Why didn't we make a song? I would've loved to sing HOPELESS STAKES or i need a seiun
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>>724191056
a good S. Maru can dominate but it requires a lot of work and the ones I've seen in random rooms are way too bad to work, groundwork grind alone filters most people and I've seen a ton of "cope" marus without groundwork
there are a few decently well made Marus here but i expect not to see too many of them in the wild
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>>724191382
Good job capping speed with that deck, ya did good
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>>724191437
There are some Uma songs afaik
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>>724191437
There were some uma songs but frankly they were kinda shit. I thought about doing one but got lazy
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Has anyone in this thread ACTUALLY spent money on this game?
You get so many storylines and umas for free. The paid packages seem horribly priced. If you really want an uma enough, you just save up to get her during her banner or use your headstart voucher on her.
The only reason to spend is if you really want a certain uma, or if you're trying to do PvP. But the gameplay doesn't have enough depth to make PvP fun, and purchasing a storylines for like a hundred bucks when you get twenty others for free feels like a total ripoff.
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>>724191560
I've spent 20 bucks to finish a spark for Seiun, and another 21 bucks on daily carat packs.
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>>724191560
I bought the random 3* ticket and 2 months of daily carats
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>>724191560
I MLB'd both Kitasan and Super Creek cards
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>>724191052
There already a non-mobile uma game in steam. I was thinking more of you can control your character, but stamina manage is still a thing. Your Gut is your HP with bump being a thing. You could even go full Tokyo Xtreme Racer mode and have it tie to Spirit Point Bar, which is the will to win. That get to zero, your uma just flat out lose.
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>>724191478
yeah, there are two. i liked the doja cat one
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>>724191560
I haven't swiped yet but will if there is a good deal
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>>724191560
>You get so many storylines and umas for free
You really don't, I say this as someone who hasn't spent shit, either with money or with my carats past the Kitasan banner. URA Finale scenario is quite repetitive and you see most of a girl's events by playing through the career with her once. The main story chapters tell things from a different perspective entirely, while the character stories are rather short.
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>>724191560
I pay for the monthly slow drip since a couple months back.
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>>724191560
I already swipe a few times. I am currently swiping that monthly Carat thing. Unless I absolutely want that uma (Christmas Oguri being a high contentor right now if my Carat reserve isn't enough), I am happy with that monthly. The Random 3* one is a scam since you could end up with a dupe uma.
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>>724191560
I will swipe however much it need to for V. Bourbon, other than that no
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>>724191560
Monthly pack + some extra here and there
Whenever I feel the itch of spending rising I pretend my stocks had a bad day and just spend a bit. When you have some money invested and some retard says something and you lose like 3k in a day just to win 5k the next day, and so on, money starts to lose a bit of it's meaning. I could whale but I keep myself grounded, spend like 15 bucks a month, probably around 60/70 bucks in total so far.
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>>724191349
these memes are either, you have no idea what theyre saying, like the DAHBY PUTA MADRE.jpg, or you can somewhat figure it out like picrel. both are hilarious
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>>724191560
Put a second mortgage on the house and sold one of the cars to make sure I got Seiun, but it was worth every penny
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>Spending money on gacha
Just raise your own IRL horse at this point bwo
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>>724192091
seiunlets can't relate
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Why do the 3+ rainbow trainings only appear when I do fan/event points farm career runs?
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>>724192091
Anon, wake up. You're dreaming. The Seiun Sky banner has long past and you still don't have her.
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>bwo
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>>724192105
Working on it.
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>>724192168
you're right
i'm homeless and that was plasma I was selling, not my car...I just checked again to be sure and I still don't have Seiun Sky.
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>Failed the final 100+ speed training
>It was gonna be glue anyway because no medium S
Three goddesses, why have you forsaken me?
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I don't see the hype.
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>>724192319
When's the last time you prayed to Shiraoki-sama?
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>>724192378
KILL YOURSELF FUKUTARD
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>>724192254
Let's hope Doto doesn't drop dead before the new stable gets finished
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Leo room
66543786
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>>724192319
>getting to see a 100+ speed training during URA finals
You don't know how good you have it.
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>>724192378
>one off because No Dubs Allowed
its like the nature itself is against you
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>>724192448
I'm expecting him to, but it will help the other horses too.

If they actually get the important work done before snowfall I'll be impressed.
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She's so fucking MASSIVE
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>>724192561
Makes me realize how short in game trainer is, we should be towering over these umalets.
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>>724178991
Well it already exists. It's called Power Pros and has been existing for 30+ years. This is their latest installments. Umamusume career mode actually copied Power Pros almost everything.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XblA8SbeTng
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>>724192523
It's a remodelling job, they should manage to at least fix the essentials before expanding and making room for more horses
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>realize how bad my shitty parent is dragging down ace runs
>go back to do another one
>Fuku because medium A with few other non-relevant pink sparks
>can barely clear URA finals with it
>can barely get 600 spd/stam/pow
God this is so ass.
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>>724192457
Good race. First time I see a Creek around. She was... strong
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>>724192691
>baseball
i know an uma who'd enjoy that
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>>724192457
What the fuck? Did my Oguri just get murdered by position keep mid race or something?
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Umamuzoomer without the bullshit is just your princess time management games????
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>>724192691
They look like different games
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>Out of borrows
>0/3 usable aces done
Go on without me bros....I will not be able to board the pequod this time
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>>724192826
dont tell Mcqweeeen how the game went last night.
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>>724192823
Post the podium pls
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>>724192954
You know what to do rice.
If you cant win, you have to bring them all down. Pure debuffer team. Two dominators and a nature loaded with every debuff imaginable
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>>724190061
spicnigga here to explain
this is from a long standing culture of (unironically) facebook group memes that started a few years ago, basically every game has its own group where every meme it's just a character traced over a movie scene/popular template and the result is always absurd
my favorite ones are LA BESTIA DE HOKKAIDO Spe
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>>724192952
The entire umamusume career mode almost copied everything from power pros success mode. The similarities are more seen from their gacha version.
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Sekkai Saikyou wa...
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>>724192879
Come on, retard, uma muzoomie was right there.
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Is it me or Brian's Shatterproof skill is fucking dogshit?
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>>724193293
>mid race acceleration
of course it is
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I wish I could run races like Kikuka or Tenno Sho (spring) more than once per career, Tenno Sho autumn and Arima Kinen can, why not these?
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>>724193293
Brian is pretty ass and should only be used if you have zero good speed cards. In most cases a 2LB SR would be better.
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>>724193293
It is, DO NOT use it
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>>724193219
Would it have taken off if they just did gacha anime girl style character design
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>>724193365
>Brian deniers still exist
She's better than eisin flash bwo
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>>724193116
I saved it this time
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>bwo
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>>724193293
If you're manage to make it go off, you have much bigger issues going on as a pacer.
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>>724193293
You don't use Brian for her gold skill
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>>724193293
She's a stat stick card
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>>724193365
Brian's only redeeming feature is the 2 speed bonus, which can make multi-rainbow trainings reach the hard cap of +100 pretty easily.
Otherwise she's pretty bad overall. Energy vampire with only 1 mood up event.
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Out of borrows for the day and I feel like doing a meme run once my TP refills
What would be the funniest non-end closer uma to force into being one? I'm thinking Suzuka but am open to suggestions
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Are you ready to admit Open League is a good idea? You will literally get more rewards
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>>724189981
Speed, don't forget you also need to level up the facility ASAP
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>>724193653
Bakushin
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>>724193617
>energy vampire is -20 for 40 speed over 2 events
THIRD RATE TRAINER SPOTTED
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>>724189981
>gaslit him into picking speed
lol well done lads never change
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>>724193617
>Energy vampire
-20 energy for 40 speed over two events is not a bad trade off at all
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>>724193653
End closer bakushin with full guts build pls
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>>724193617
She raises your energy cap, gives you 40 speed for the trouble, and has an event that either raises your energy cap again or boosts your mood. There's also lone wolf if you like that skill I guess.
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>>724193664
it was never about the rewards daiwa shitter
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>>724193789
This, and you also are not allowed to train wit.
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>3 Daily races
>5 team trials
>No daily shop
Explain to me why this shit also needs rng
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>>724193293
Use her as a stat stick card.
That +2 speed bonus is a godsend for Uma's without an inherent bonus to speed training
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>>724192851
>suddenly decides to become a late surger
https://litter.catbox.moe/936g992kwy08j17s.mp4
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>>724178991
what are you retarded? Uma musume is princess maker. You would just make princess maker with THICC princesses in booty shorts to satisfy the modern audience.
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>fuck it, I'll make a pure debuffer grass
>Hmmm, good time to use wit parents
>halfway through the run I realize Grass is Medium B
what the FUCK
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>>724194041
>wit parents
???? some of you amaze me
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>>724194041
It makes no fucking sense, how are you A in mile and long but b in medium
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>>724194120
Listen, this isn't a serious run. I don't normally make debuffers anyways
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>>724194041
That doesn't really matter for Grass, she can keep up until the final corner, and it's a good thing if she falls behind everyone else. Dominator is not sight-based.
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>>724193380
Well the mobile version is a gacha.
And the game is actually a hit in Japan (of course). The consele version is just your typical sports game released annually like FIFA or NBA 2K.

As for the anime girls, the game's premise is training (you) as a baseball player throughout 3 years of high school (seems familiar?). You got supported by your fellow students, and they have anime girls as managers or even team members. While with chibi art style, that didn't stop people to like them. Some even do R18 with their chibi forms.

The console game has a lot of game modes to train (you), unlike umamusume which only has 1 style.

>Eikan Nine : (you) are the school team manager instead, training multiple players at once, can play almost infinitely.
>My Life : (you) already become a pro player. You can marry in this mode.
>PowerFest : (you) train by playing a successive matches on a limited time range, recruiting NPCs to make your team stronger.
>SucceSuccess : A literal gambling mode, only 5 minutes to train a player.
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>Use event cards in a career
>Use the story mode Ticket card instead of the guts one for once
>Last event happens
>It takes 30 energy for 5 Stamina, 5 Power, and 2 hints of In Body and Mind
Bro what the fuck
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>>724194041
Does distance aptitude even matter for debuffers? It's not like you need her to actually win
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>>724194202
>That doesn't really matter for Grass
It's gonna matter if we want to make it through this run...
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Do you guys felt like crashing a run when you forgot to give that tiny gremlin any attention? Or when you try to find that gremlin in the few turns left for that 2nd ultimate skill but she is no where to be seen? I personally end up doing those Extra Training specifically to get this shit over with.
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>>724194120
I have some 3* wit parents saved, but also this.
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>>724194140
IRL grass only ever entered 2 medium races (both Takarazuka) on his entire career, and only win once.
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>Accidentally clicked on guts choice instead of mood up in Kawakami's event
>Accidentally pressed on rest and then accidentally confirmed it
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>>724178991
Make sparks easier so you're incentivized to pull every once in a while instead of always banking for a spark
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ITT: we write a letter of appreciation to the hard-working queen of /v/ma Grass Wonder-Sama, one word at a time

DEAR
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>>724194326
There is nothing worse than accidentally committing an action you didn't mean to do, like selecting Guts and no one is even in it.
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>>724189025
Groundwork is overrated as seen in the last cup.
Early lead + tail held high gave more consistent results in setting up angling honestly
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>>724194368
CHIGGER
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>>724194368
NIGGER
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>>724193701
>>724193789
Right, end Bakushin it is then. Not sure about doing a guts build on top of it, though, especially since I don't have any guts cards leveled besides Urara. Maybe I'll try it if a regular run works out?
Will report back in an hour or so once my TP gets to 30
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>>724194368
ASS
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>>724194285
If I didn't get enough friendship for the second upgrade then I just won't get it, it's not that big of a deal really
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>>724194368
FUCK
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>>724194368
WEEB
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>>724194368
PESKY
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>>724194368
regards
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>>724194368
DIE
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>>724194368
NATTO
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>>724194381
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>>724194368
/v/ma
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I haven't seen a 3* spark in weeks.

>Some days only have strength for 1 career
>Find an interesting deck to try out, promising results but RNG gated
>Can only try thrice a day


>>724194285
I am more cognizant of it now but I've been bitten by not being able to see the exact bond value and stuck with something like 58/59, same for the URA Finale bonuses.
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>>724194035
What was her wit at?
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>>724194368
THE
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>>724178991
Nigger, just play gakum@s instead
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>>724194285
>Run into the director for the Breath of Air random event
>she gives me nothing but a fucking mood down
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>>724194648
Why would you play an objectively worse game?
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>>724194596
I've done over 400 runs and haven't gotten a single 3* stam spark.
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>>724194368
77 - 53 - 84
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>>724194669
how do you not have 400 power by then
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>>724194558
woah
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>>724194601
She's somewhat of a witlet, but if that was because of a lowroll during the race, I've never seen one that bad before.
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>>724194728
Shitty fan maxing runs kek
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>>724194728
NTA, but that thing is random, I got that event once very early into the run
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>>724194368
>Dear chigger nigger ass fuck weeb pesky regards die natto /v/ma the 77 - 53 - 84
What did toreina-san mean by this?
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>>724194648
Shut up and suck up my dick, Kotone.
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>>724194696
To shit on EoPfags like you
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>all these other gacha talk
DON'T MIND ME POSTING THE UMA KILLER!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nPNFzBhWZr8
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l6TZQ9mjptw
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VPXapTu0ZuQ
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>open chat
>it's all tm opera o
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>>724194998
>Winning Derby
Oh no no no, don't say it!
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>>724195009
GIVE ME YOUR DIRT SHOES OR I CURSE YOU FOR 10 GENERATIONS
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>>724178991
>If you were designing a game to scratch the Umamusume itch, but without all the bullshit, how would you do it?
that's just a raising sim. i'm playing umamusume to scratch the raising sim itch. monster rancher 2 and princess maker are just superior to umamusume but i already played the hell out of them
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>>724194998
This spells disaster for /v/mapyoi!!!
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>>724195009
>doxxing your club
AAAIIIIEEEE
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>>724195057
>7
FUCK YOU
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>>724195047
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>>724194368
I thought the queen was mayano top gun?
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>>724194998
This looks way worse than I ever could've imagined
>Human ears
DISGUSTING
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>>724195009
Fucking lol
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>>724195191
>he doesn't know
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>>724195196
It's literally 100% aislop too.
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>Last borrow gets Hopeful'd
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>>724195009
new low for /v/mapyoisisters
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>>724194998
Bros?
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Sex with Ass Wonder
Sex with Satono Diamond
Sex with Narita Brian
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>>724195398
>Seiun Sky is a N G
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>>724195398
>This fucking chink playing a ripoff has Seiun and I don't
NOOOOOOOOOOOOO
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>>724194998
What kind of subhuman actually falls for shit like this
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>Undoubtedly saves /v/ma from Goldship's reign
>Prevented Smart Falcon and Seiun Sky from ascending to the throne
>Ushered in a era of peace with special week at her side
>Everyone still hates her
What went wrong?
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IS THIS GOOD ENOUGH?
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>>724194998
OH NO NO NO! UMASISTER, HOW CAN WE COMPETE?
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>>724194998
>racing horse girls again
Should have gone with racing greyhound girls or something
I'm sure there's a market for cute dog girls
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>>724195537
I like cheese burgers and don't want to be labeled as a domestic terrorist for it.
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>>724195549
No.
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>>724195549
She's a bit retarded but she's decent
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>>724195503
Its alright, it's not the end of the world (as we know it)
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>>724195549
I think so Dotobro, I think so.
I've seen a few Dotos win practice rooms like that, take it easy
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>>724195398
She looks different.

>>724195513
Desperate fags that want to play uma, too witlet to play the JP, and cannot wait on the Global release.
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>>724195537
>>Everyone still hates her
I have seen drawings of her ass and people saying GRASS SAMA all the time. If anything people love her and her reign. At least more than G*ldship
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>>724195537
But we love Ass Wonder here
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>>724195537
I wanna fuck her fat ass
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>>724195549
It's good, would've been great if she had more Wit and if you hadn't spend points on Speed Star
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>>724195549
witlet so she will die if she doesn't proc her skills which will happen pretty often, try again
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>>724195537
The Neo-Samurai broke into my home and decapitated my trainee after they heard us speaking in English
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>>724178991
>a game to scratch the Umamusume itch, but without all the bullshit
That's monster rancher. Ume Musume is basically Monster Rancher with monetization slapped on.
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Super Creek didn't finish her event chain on a single one of my borrows today
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>>724195537
>>Everyone still hates her
factually untrue, nobody genuinely likes golshi because the quintessential reddit uma, you never see anyone post about her unless it's talking about her defeat in the first /v/ictory stakes. Grass Wonder has tons of activity in the threads and a bunch of memes to go with it, meanwhile golshit made a drawanon exile himself
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I'm missing 5 Tenno Sho S. sashes but I don't want to do 3 careers just to farm those...
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>>724195537
>Ushered in a era of peace
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>>724195537
>Everyone still hates her
We do? First I'm hearing of this
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>>724195754
She hasn't finished her event chain in 80% of my borrows
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>>724195549
All the dotos I've seen posted here are complete monsters, take notes Eishinfags, i expect great things from you
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>>724191560
monthly packs, both of the limited $14 packs and rookie pack A. daily pulls are insanely good value. 10 pulls on a banner you intend to spark saves you 1000 carats while having the same 3% rate as a 10 pull. daily pulling umas got me doto, maru, curren, anime mcqueen and biwa. a combination of daily pulls and trainee tickets got me summer special week. daily pulls on kita-san let me spark the banner to get the last one I needed to MLB, daily pulls on creek helped me spark the banner for 3LB.
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>>724195595
>>724195625
>>724195702
>>724195708
ILL TRY AGAIN THEN

>>724195649
>take it easy
dont worry i like training doto, except for that piece of shit seuin sky, when i train doto she wants to get stronger, when i train seuin sky she doesnt fucking want to train.
>UNLIMITED SLEEP DEPRIVED
>CHAIN MOOD DOWNS
HOLY SHIT, SHE IS WORST THAN RICE SHOWER! LITERALLY THE WORST PULL I HAVE EVER GOTTEN.
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>>724195853
Fukutards did this to themselves, I don't even need a 7 to prove this
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>>724195953
Then give seiun to me you fucking retard
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Kikuka Sho when?
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>>724195829
Finally. Peace and quiet.
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>>724195825
I like gold ship....
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>>724196019
>Then give seiun to me you fucking retard
give me Manhattan Cafe and its a deal.
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>>724195754
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>>724196025
Tomorrow actually
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>>724196025
15:40 japan time so around 5 hours
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>1200 Speed
>More Stamina than anyone is going to bother bringing on a Front Runner + 2 gold heals
>Right Handed, Summer Runner, Firm Conditions, Groundwork, Angling (Suzuka didn't give me Unrestrained)
>Not a Witlet
>Long___ S
Have to move on, not hitting those again, not even going to be the most difficult girl I plan on running. Oguri please carry these two dummies. Support card rolls can't come soon enough.
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it's going to be cancer cup all over again. strongest late wins unless there's a proper front and most players can't produce a proper front. take competitive spirit on your lates, everyone is going to run at least one
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>>724196086
Only contrarians hate Golshi.
Really it's r*ddit Tachyon that's loved by s*y guzzling science worshippers
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>>724196191
Post her, she sounds busted
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>>724195549
it looks better than the doto that won a couple of practice lobbies. a bit more wit & skip speed star next time.
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>>724196282
>it's going to be cancer cup all over again. strongest late wins unless there's a proper front and most players can't produce a proper front.
No, not really. Pace are pretty good here too, even end. Pace were kinda shit in Cancer outside of El
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>>724196291
>Those are my top 2
Not looking good bwo...
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>>724188608
for me its spd/creek/tazuna
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>>724196373
>bwo
/v/ro...really not looking good!
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>>724196404
>Borrowing Double Jet
Absolute mad lad
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>>724195825
>drawanon exile himself
Truly sad, I hope he's ok and comes back
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>>724196404
>1LB Tazuna, 3LB Creek, MLB Kitasan, MLB Tosho
man I fuckin wish.
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>>724196356
>Pace are pretty good here too, even end
pace is basically required if you aren't running front. not having a ticket to enter the pace lotto with 0 fronts is fucking awful
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>>724196297
She got 8th in a public CM test room and consistently gets passed by Pace Chasers before Late Race where she can proc Angling starts. Actually she hasn't gotten better than 4th in a public CM test room. The Medium S boost is real and the Dominator debuff is real. Probably also a Power issue but can't afford to bring anything to fix that.
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>>724196528
Definitely sounds like a power issue if paces are overtaking her. Power is still important for fronts, very important
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>>724196476
I believe he's in my club and he's fine, requesting shoes.
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>>724195549
I wish I could make a Doto like that, what cards and parents?
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I'm done with my s.maru!
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>>724195562
>Greyhound
>mostly english or american
>Focus on training a dog girl in a Boarding School
>Shed Racing
>train a handful of husky girls
>all snowy region
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>>724196662
Anon....
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>>724196468
i'm just having better runs with her. I started trying her for mood effect and it's been working out better than either biko or suzuka
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Be honest
how many of you are experiencing burnout?
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>>724196721
Burnout as in tired of the game or tired of getting fucked in the ass my RNG?
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>>724196662
Nooooope!
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>>724196721
I'm grinding for those Hotspring Scene. Getting Fans/Ace/Parents is just collateral.
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>>724196721
What do you call the opposite of burnout? When there's so much you're waiting for, but you can't because it's not here yet?
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I wish I could make Biwa work bros
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>>724196721
Burnout? Not really i play on my terms, there are days i don't play. Frustration? Very, I have not been able to make anything worthwhile
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>>724196779
Like it's getting harder to complete your runs, feel like you need a break and that sort of thing.

Is it a temporary thing or just do you have off days? I'm tired boss...
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I feel great. I'm finally tryharding this shit. 5 careers a day
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>>724196493
I feel you, I'm trying to make a summer chud with a similar deck, but my best one is off by 100-150 on both stam and power as well as uncapped speed
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>>724196847
All I need are better cards and I could do it. I know I could do it.
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>>724196721
I've only been doing 1-2 careers a day since Gemini, so I'm good
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>>724196846
Probably just "hype", excitement, anticipation
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>>724196654
here

>>724196721
i got burnout training seuin sky, got my burnout debuff removed when i tried training other horses, it was the worst time i have ever hard with this game. tried training her again for this CM to compensate for Dotos placement it was fucking hell, will never train her again.
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>>724196860
Take days off, just don't flat line and you're good anon, hell if you talk to your danchou you can get days off. In my club we gets multiple days off.
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>>724196864
meant for this anon >>724196721
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>>724196847
She seems more suited to long races.
Think Im gonna do Biwa, Rice Shower, and some other underrated uma
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>>724196721
I got like 6M fans yesterday. I'm taking it a bit easier today but I'm already done with my borrows + a few extra careers, so no burnout
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>>724196721
Not burnout, RNG malding
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>>724196984
I DON'T NEED A BREAK!
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>>724196682
>>724196782
getting to know the game, what's wrong with it?
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>>724196860
I'm tired of bad RNG, not the game itself, like genuine horrendous dogshit RNG
I find it hard to start the run because I'm scared to see 5 mood down events in a row or even worse, something like this
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>>724197067
for
>>724196974
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>>724196721
Just a bit.
I'm probably just going to use whatever my best 3 medium umas are at the start of CM and just wait for half-anniversary to start.
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>>724196721
I'm actually coming back from burnout, I didn't play since taurus until I reinstalled a few days ago. I wonder if my original club would take me back...
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>>724196847
bro just have 5 MLB ssrs and borrow another. 3% chance per roll to roll SSR rarity and once you pass the 3% SSR check you have a .044% chance of rolling the non-banner SSR you're trying to max. simply $21 per 10 roll. don't you love biwa enough to spend 2k on her?
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>>724196721
I played lol ranked for a decade, i don't feel any emotions when playing games anymore, only CM can quench that competitive thirst
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>>724197090
well
>you are front then you need more power than that
>you need groundwork because you are not the only one doing front
>concentration is a waste of skill point focus is enough
mid race looks fine tho lol and your not a witlet so theres that.
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>>724196721
if I get bad luck I just give up on the run now. sorry danchud
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>>724194445
Yep, it's Bakushin time.
Wish me luck anons
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>>724197248
>End D
Oh no
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>>724196493
having a deck of 4 SSRs contaminated my event pool so much i didn't get swinging maestro
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>>724196721
I just don't play and log in daily so my club thinks i'm active and carry me to free a+
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>>724197184
Maybe...
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>>724197090
Speed is good. Stamina could be a bit higher. Ideally you would take like 200 points out of Wit and put it into Power. But mostly, you have nothing to close out the end of the race before everyone catches up to you. Didn't inherit Angling and Scheming or Red Shift, no nothing. Go into the races tab and put her into Takurazuka Kinen rooms if you don't believe me.
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>>724197238
I wasn't OP, but thanks.
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>>724197090
I recognize that maru, its a poorly built whale one. The anon was making a joke about how he was done when it's horribly built, like no seiun sky parent (the front runner wincon), no groundwork, no 3 greens, etc
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>>724195825
Golshi and Grass are my two favorite umas and I won Cancer cup with them.

I'm bringing them again for Leo.
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>>724197090
A few things

One, fronts need Seiun Sky's unique. You get this by using her as a parent or borrowing a Seiun parent. You NEED this for fronts. It activates on the final corner if you've sustained your lead and gives you a huge acceleration boost. This keeps you at the front and prevents you from being passed. It is mandatory for front runners if you want to actually win.

Two, no groundwork. This is an ability that gives you a huge acceleration boost at the start of the race that allows you to surge in front of everyone and allows you to be in the lead, which is where the front wants to be, and wants to stay, because if you lose the lead, it's really hard to get it back.

Groundwork needs three green abilities to trigger. Green abilities are ones like firm conditions, non-standard distance, and so on. They will activate given the conditions of the course are correct. You can also use the Focus ability as one of the activations, but it is prone to RNG. Green abilities activate no matter what so long as the conditions are met.

Lastly, your power is too low for a front.
In cancer, if your power was below 1000, you would struggle. I would say for a front to do well in this race, you'd want at least 800 power.

Asides from that everything else does look pretty decent at a glance. But you're missing a few very crucial elements to have a good front runner. It's one of the harder classes to build around, so as a beginner it's gonna be a little rough getting used to it.

In order to get groundwork it's a bit tricky as you have to sort of breed it in or borrow it in and hope it triggers during an inspiration event, as it's very hard to get from cards in a run, or let's just say not ideal to do that, so you want to get it from breeding. So yeah it's a whole thing.
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>>724196721
I do three a day but I really want auto so I burn the rest of my TP for various reasons from just completing runs.
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>>724197368
Lmfao, how is this shit so bad and which youtuber is this? How can you be a whale and be this retarded or is this just taken out of context or something
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>>724196903
It's always a stamina issue for me
I have a friend with mlb kita and my own mlb halo and a couple of other heavy hitters for speed
but even with multiple 3lb stam cards (cafe, zrr, kerchow) I can barely train it worth a damn
Even triple stacks with leveled facilities scarcely give more than 40 stam and if I'm running 3 stam cards then I won't get enough speed
I did a joke run the other day just to see how high I could get stam and it didn't even reach the cap, I got to about 1050
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>>724197362
>>724197359
>>724197238
I'll try to build my own maru like that but I have a serious deficit in my cards. Need to grind up and get good pulls in the anniversary banner.
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>try dominator ace
>ok this is mediocre but it's my best one yet
>0/30 races won
i knew she wasn't good but holy shit
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>>724197492
No whales are just that retarded, if you go whale hunting when CM first opens you'll see S rank ukas that are horribly built
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>>724196847
She's meant for gutsmaxxing.
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>>724197362
>>724197549
np, forgot about the acceleration skills as this anon said >>724197359 , you'll also need that but not to the point that you only have acceleration skills only.
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>>724197626
I'd like to max out her guts if you catch my drift
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>>724197597
Medium S with 1200 speed means 1320 speed. Yours has 1170
Plus she's a powerlet(most of these will have 800)

So she accelerates slower and to a lower top speed.
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I've seen Hamburger Helper event 5 times already in one run and every time I was scared to pick the second option like holy fuck
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>>724197597
Need max speed, medium S, like 1000 power (im not kidding) and red shift + shooting as well as iron if you want a chance. It's hard to build an actually good late for this one. I made a good one with great speed, power, and medium S but the stam was just a bit too low and she'll gas at the end, it's frustrating.
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>>724197597
have the same shit with better power, this one never won, best placement is 2nd lmao. good debuff tho.
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There will be club spots open right? I am searching for a club, my current one is falling apart due to discord drama.
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>>724193208
You guys still use facebook? I thought it was a boomer social network now
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>>724197893
My grass is very similar to that. She gets dominator off pretty regularly, maaaayybe gets 4th or 5th, 3rd sometimes. But she cant keep up with my Front or Pace. I want to make a stronger one but boy is it a pain. Working on a pure debuffer version
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>>724197184
What club were you in?
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>>724198014
If there is a will there is a way, I believe you will win
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>>724197945
>discord drama
The bane of all modern social interactions
I think a few clubs have flatliners so keep an eye out at the start of the month
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>>724197732
It's a pretty low chance to get Slow Metabolism, but even if you do, as long as it takes a single Infirmary visit to cure, it's basically the same as hitting Rest (+50 energy over one turn) and getting an additional +10 skill points. I pretty much always let my umas stuff their face unless they are already capped on energy.
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>>724197519
1050 is higher than I was able to build her for the last Long cup, she had 980 or so and 3 gold heals. Less than 1000 speed too. For Cancer I had to go 5 speed cards to get close to cap. At least my legacies have leveled up a lot to make up for my shit cards. Santa Biwa can't come soon enough.
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>>724197184
That you /v/ma bro? I think we can get you back in here
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>>724197945
This is why all /vg/ generals that end up having a discord just become a cesspool of drama between the most mentally ill internet addicts

Please never make a discord if you enjoy the thread discussion of a series you like
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>>724198020
I just don't think Dominator is that strong. I tested it on umalator and triple Dominator gives you like 1.5-2 length boost at max. It's just not worth it IMO.
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>>724198183
Nobody's even suggested making a discord, not once. That aint gonna happen
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>>724197424
After many many tests I can confirm that as a front runenr you need at least 700 power to deal with the uphills, any more than that is just a bonus since acceleration skills will take over in the last spurt and speed/medium S will take priority
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>>724197945
>>724198084
currently on one right now because the time im supposed to join /v/ club the great purge is happening. all seems good just dont be friendly in their channel, they are all assholes there.
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>>724198084
Yeah I'll keep an eye out, I average 3-4M a day so hopefully I can get picked up by someone, no S ranks yet right?
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>>724197067
Need the sound version of this.

>>724196696
Stat wise Biko and TT perform about the same in a double rainbow with Kitasan but I'd give a stronger edge to Biko because training effectiveness is pretty universal and the race bonus adds up a bit if you pass the 33% mark, the higher specialty is just gravy.
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>>724197893
My experience trying out a late surger, it relies a lot on positioning and the room. You have to hope there aren't too many fronts so your late actually has a chance to be in 6th place, you have to hope the Natures don't screw her over by being in front of her, you have to not get blocked. The one advantage lates have is that for some reason, Iron can proc earlier than other accel skills on this track. So if you actually do proc Iron, you have a good chance of chaining it into Red Shift and you have a much stronger chance of winning from there.
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>>724198224
>>I just don't think Dominator is that strong. I tested it on umalator and triple Dominator gives you like 1.5-2 length boost at max. It's just not worth it IMO.
Have you done any test races. I've done quite a few, and I've been on the receiving end where I've had my Maru get hit by 3 of them. It's very strong, but it's there to kill front runners mostly. It is the ONLY way to stop a strong Maru other than praying RNG fucks up her skill activation.

Umalator is just a tool. You need to actually see it firsthand in races to understand what makes it strong.
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>>724198132
You may have misinterpreted
The max stamina run wasn't an attempt at building anything usable it was purely to see if I could cap stamina, speed and power be damned
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>>724196721
Not burned out, but it is less fun than before
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>>724198123
>It's a pretty low chance
You know, a person that managed to roll 3 hot spring tickets in a row is very capable of rolling multiple slow metabolism and night owl events in a row and it already happened to me
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>>724196696
you better get biko desu, that mf will put your speed on kingdom come, that traininng effect + special prio is a monster.
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>no S ranks yet right?
I don't think that's happening without quotas
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>>724197318
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>>724198294
Top 1k is A, top 500 is A+, and top 100 is fucking S, so no. No club will ever get there without discord servers and daily quotas in the millions.
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>>724198294
Yeah, A+ is probably the best you're gonna get without quotas
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>>724198294
>no S ranks yet right?
Never ever.
We're lucky if we can even hold A+ for more than a month or two.
If you want that, you gotta go to /vg/. Most /v/ clubs are a mixed back of high-performers. Lots of A clubs, but only a couple A+ hanging the 400s now. S is top 100, and we're not getting there without explicit quotas and nobody wants that. The most strenuous quota on /v/ is doing a career a day.
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>>724198334
>Have you done any test races
I have, just not with triple Dominator. Most of the time I just lost to other non front umas, usually another Oguri.
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>>724197893
i think hybrid might just be a dead end with my cards or in general. not enough SP to go around while hitting the stat caps. Dominator is expensive, the cards with it have no hint level bonus either.
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>>724198569
I would just say the Umalator is just useful to get some ideas of what skills might be good, but you need to do lots of practice races and pay attention to the skills that are going off to see your weak points.

Just shooting off dominators isn't enough to win. You need a good ace to actually capitalize on it. For most people, this will be something like a Pace Oguri, but there's other options of course. Dominator is very strong, and it's remained strong even in Japan
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>>724198556
Yeah I figured, I don't really browse /vg/ so I'll shop around here when the time comes (or join another whale club if I can find a decent one). I'm an old JP whale (now global whale) so I'm very familiar with how circles used to work back in the day.
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>>724198132
As a huge Biwa fan pulling for the Christmas skin is basically mandatory because even if I don't get her I might get The Insane-O Meta Forever Horse blessings upon her name
But if it goes to pity I'm taking Biwa
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>>724198403
>multiple slow metabolism and night owl events in a row
Yeah, but if you are having luck that bad, no amount of playing it safe is going to un-glue that run.
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>>724198807
but here's the licker
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>>724198784
I still clicked on them all and none of them gave me Slow Metabolism, my next run surely is fucked
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>>724198736
Well if you joined one of the A+ clubs, you could probably help them hold A+ at the very least if you did a decent amount per day. But yeah most are pretty laid back here, asides from some tribalistic shitposting, but it doesnt really many anything beyond banter
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Are you running triple Dominator anon? Is anyone here running triple Dominator? Have you tested triple Dominator?
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>>724198569
Dominator alone is not enough, you need the other Hesitant skills and to have more than 600k Wit, if the other Uma has more Wit your Dominator won't affect her. S. Marus want high Wit so most Hybrids won't affect her at all, you need at least 1 pure debuffer.
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>>724198928
I think most people are running 1-2 dominators at most, and then having a strong pace/front to capitalize on it.
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>>724198902
Just be sure to pray to Shiraoki-sama and surely nothing will go wrong!
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>>724198928
Unless smaru has redshift, you don't need more than two
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>>724198928
Way too much of a gamble
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umalator sucks most of the time because it's 1v1. you're going to get really fucked up weird results testing umas with positional triggers and placement triggers. 1st/2nd skills are going to give you inflated results because they're going to trigger in 100% of runs. if you put daiwa in the umalator you're just going to get junk
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>>724198995
I CURSE YOU FOR 10 GENERATIONS BAKAYARO
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>>724199042
WHY DO I WANT TO INSEMINATE SPECIAL WEEK
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>>724199037
Don't forget gate placements, it's a world of difference for a front runner to be in gate 1 instead of gate 9
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>>724198331
pretty much on point desu, in the end it is true that late surger is the gambling mans position.

>>724198928
tried double + neicha, won some but doesnt feel like a finalist team.
>>724198807
is that doto?
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>>724199073
But Grass-dono, that would be gay
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>>724199073
Grass wonder.....
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Perfect time to mention and suggest to join /v/mapyoi!
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>>724199073
Spexo
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>>724199073
>>724199113
>>724199128
GRASS NO!
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>>724199148
Sure, id be happy to help them get to A+
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>>724199095
>is that doto?
Air Groove
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>>724197492
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9xwqXf3cx2s
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>>724199247
I didn't even watch it btw I just thought the end result was funny. His advice is probably terrible.
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>great start
>lots of friendship training pre debut
>even get speed to lvl 2
>this happens
what the fuck, i havent lost a single debut in months
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>>724199207
/v/mapyoi is actually full, theres only one guy at risk but he still logs in so its okay
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>>724199328
GATEKEPT
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>>724199328
get late started
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>>724199247
you guys laugh at him but hes like the least badof all the shilltubers because he admits hes not that smart when it comes to this game
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>>724199328
Debut race is just a stat check. Just put them front even if they have G style aptitude
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Do NOT accept any food from Oguri, worst mistake of my life.
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>>724199476
THE TERRIBLE ASS SCRATCHER
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Please join *ASTER*!
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>>724198007
there's a few meme groups still alive on it because LATAM Facebook is largely unmoderated so you can get away with shitposting in certain ways that you cannot on other social media and many people were prolly told as a kid that they HAD to had a Facebook account just in case.
its mostly just boomers pogging at AI images and 20 iq niggas trying to get thousands of dollars for their rust-bucket cars on Marketplace now though.
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>>724199503
Sorry your club is impossible to search for McQueen
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>>724199503
HotUmaGlue is better
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>>724198736
Are you by any chance the anon who's going to write the MANT guide
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>>724199454
She was the only front with A aptitude and almost 300 speed
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>still no /v/madacchi club
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>>724199669
as one of the big three oy neigh should assimilate rebrand
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>>724199638
Indeed, that is me.
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>>724199669
>still no /v/mapoi club
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>>724199718
*and
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>get an out of deck Marvelous Sunday event that gives Hanshin Racecourse hint
>on a random TP burning run
Fug.

>>724199669
If I wasn't in a club already, I'd make one called Gluema
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>>724199718
No
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>>724199791
Gluema what?
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>>724199718
Oy Neigh is funny though
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>>724199718
That would be unironically soulless
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>>724199669
>still no /v/ma /v/ma /v/nya /v/nya club
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>>724199943
>still no kiminoai/v/aga club
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>>724199669
>still no miss /v/ictoria club
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>>724199669
>Still no tra/v/en academy club
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>>724199669
>still no meni sh/v/ki club
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>>724199669
>still no "/v/" club
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>>724200121
KY/v/KKY/v/N RATTACH/v/RA MENI MENIIII
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>>724200168
I wanted to make a /v/irgin joke, but we already have /v/ma
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ob9NiVSuRA0
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It worked
19 races, 15 wins. Lost debut, the first Sprinters Stakes, and a couple optional races, but once she hit her stride in senior year it was smooth sailing
Funny build. Would try again
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>>724200362
POST RESULTS
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>>724200362
what worked?
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>>724200362
I DEMAND A RACE
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>>724200362
>End Closer Sprinter
What the fuck is she saving her power for
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WAIT
ARE YOU TELLING ME
SHRINE VISIT ALSO HAS A CHANCE TO NOT CURE NEGATIVE EFFECTS?
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>>724200362
BASED ANON
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>>724200527
Of course.
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>>724200527
Witlet....
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>>724200567
>>724200576
I swear somebody in the thread said it's a guarantee heal, I had to press recreation anyway to fix her awful mood
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>>724200527
Yes, the event that happens if you visit the shrine while status'd has a chance to not clear it, everything in this game is a dice roll
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>>724200721
Marvelous Fatty
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>>724200721
>Thread about to die
>Not Sunday yet
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>>724200394
Could've been better. First inspiration got aptitude up to C but my cards didn't drop many worthwhile skill hints
If I ever get parents with better End sparks, I might try making an actually good version of this stupid build
>>724200427
4833 3548
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>>724179973
>Then make the VN side of things way more involved, with more branching paths based on how well your uma's career goes (eg. having Nice Nature grow more confident over time if she wins a lot, instead of acting like she's a hopeless jobber even if you make her an undefeated triple crown champion)

>beats Teio by 7 lengths
>"I can never beat Teio!"
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>>724200826
How many? Thread is about to die
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>>724201064
Bring whatever. Currently at 3/16
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>>724200826
Someone get a front taishin in here
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>>724200826
Full. Starting in one minute in case anyone wants to spectate
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>Did better than R*cks
The only thing I care about!
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Curren wins the cripple crown!
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>>724200826
Ludo...
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>>724201814
POTENTIAL UMA NO
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>My slut won
What the HELL
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Good race, good thread. See you all soon
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>>724200826
>2 front blockers hit groundwork and cucked all the front runners
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>>724201837
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Congratulations to our anonymous winner!
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Kikuka sho in ~3 hours
be there or be square
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>>724202002
Aye
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We're so fucking back
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>>724202002
AYE AYE
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>>724202002
NOOOOOOOOO I DON'T WANT TO TURN INTO A SQUARE



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