Why does it seem so hard to make a good porn game?
Tried this and it was so boring I deleted it before finishing the first dungeon
>>724200569you're missing out. the gameplay is great. Chaining spells is fucking fun
>>724200452>Gameplay is too engaging>Start focusing on the actual game over the porn, which has now become a distraction.>Gameplay is a slog>Barely want to bother 'playing' it to get to the scenes
>>724202440The real dilemma is >too little porn and you get blue balled>too much porn and it loses the eroticismEven the games that balance it well usually end up skewing more and more towards too much porn as the game progresses.
>>724200452I don't know. Teach me, I want to make money... :(
No one simply has the skills to do it, especially when half of the games are worked on solo and they are only a master of a single aspect of the game
>>724200452it's hard to code with one hand
>>724200452male protagonist, cute sister and harem, no ntr or ai with a good story and gameplay. make that and you'll print money
>>724200452If you make the gameplay good, then the porn just gets in the way. People get upset when they're cut out of the gameplay or forced to watch long porn segments. It's kind of like gacha, where the core concept (watching porn, in this case) puts limitations on game design and forces it into worse systems to highlight it.If you make the porn good, then nobody cares about the gameplay. It becomes a bad game, and could arguably be better as an event viewer for all it matters.If you put a big budget behind it, then you never make your money back. Platforms work to stifle porn and don't want to present it, meaning that it will never have the budget of a big studio or even the talent of a good indie studio.
>>724200452Since you're making them female protagonist
>>724200452First off you need a decent gameplay loop, it doesn't have to be amazing but having tangible goals to work towards outside of sex is the ideal. Second you need good porn and good variation of porn, variation is important you can only get so much enjoyment out of a couple of scenes. Now consider you have an amateur game dev who probably only has the ability to get just one of it right and you have a big hurdle to overcome, and then you need to find a way to handle the biggest problem which is to balance it out and not let one aspect become too disruptive to the other.
>>724200452the problem with this game is the incomplete translation>large complex dungeons>good battle gameplay with battle rape>funny scenes>easy to lose virginity>can be raped by both enemies and teammates>other characters get sex>gets NTR'd by the villain>funny>lots of customization which all leads to a broken character>good boss fights
The only good porn games are the Era games
>>724207518Too old, to be quite honest senpai. Art is good but pretty lazy overall. The face feels traced.
>>724208118they get boring after long enoughfor text-based games you'd think they'd get updated more oftenalso, terrible for practicing Japanese on, just awful. Highly recommend not trying until hitting N2 or so.
>>724200452Not enough straight shota
>>724200452Because your RPGmaker CG collection slop is no different from the 9 million ones that came before
>>724208706You mean shotas being dressed as girls and then being violated by large and well-hung men, right? RIGHT???
>>724207243those are all the opposite of what prints money for hgames
>>724207330I think the only real way to make it work is if the player has to work for the porn.if the porn is the lose condition or if it's just present all the time then it loses meaning like you say.I dunno why there's not more passable souls like/4 niggas in a row where you battle ladies and fuck them if you win because that seems like the formula you'd want.
>>724200452Boobs are always too big. The best porn games have FeMC with modest to smaller sized boobs
>>724208929there's nothing straighter than that
>>724200452Maybe stop making FemMC slop for once
>>724200452in a porn rpg, the player's main goal is to get the heroine's clothes off as soon as possible. And once that's done, it's kinda over and people quit until they're 'recharged'. No one wants to edge themselves too long, but if the period is too short, you really can't immerse yourself, cause it's constant refractory periods.
>>724210379True
Good H games will have a battle system that teases you but only has full sex when you lose so your virgin run is impactful. They will also have pregnancy as an additional consequences so the game isn't over when you are defeated. You will have different powers depending on you lewd level so the slut playthrough is as rewarding as the pure playthrough
Because rpg is not a good genre for porn, devs should try 2d Zelda type or something shit like that
>female protagpass
>>724200452Setting aside the fact that there is no general consensus on what constitutes a good game, much less a good porn game, one must also consider that porn gameplay competes with nonporn gameplay, and that the latter tends to have more funding than the former and thus greater resources to spend on development of the game. This includes developmental support like playtesters, which porn devs tend to get only after posting the first version of their game and hence why many of them are riddled with bugs or janky gameplay. There is also the additional restriction that porn games have a lot higher ratio of objectionable content than SFW games, which can kill interest in a game even if it has good mechanics. For instance, a given porn game might have have engaging and challenging mechanics that rival SFW games, but feature a kink that even a typical gooner isn't comfortable with (usually stuff like vore, futa, piss/scat, or ntr).With that said though, it is unusual that there is relatively little innovation in the porn game industry relative to their SFW small indie game counterparts, particularly in terms of content. Most tend to have a single protagonist (sometimes in a same-sex party) with 100% of the game's sex scenes involving them with one or many partners, with said encounters often being dubcon/noncon. Considering how popular the concept of "shipping" is in SFW fandoms, it is rather surprising that there aren't more porn games attempting simple stretches like featuring sex scenes with multiple established couples or an RPG with dating sim mechanics for party members (with speedy "developments" to keep the gooner crowd interested). If the allure of porn games over other porn media is interactivity, then it is strange that there are so few forms it takes, especially when lots of anons here have mentioned avenues of exploration. Perhaps it is a sign that innovation in the sector is meaningless, though that would be a sad reality.
True, obviously you can't compare a porn Game against a triple a but there are really good indie games made by a single person who blows most porn games
>>724208118I've put so much time into those games.>>724209053I've had some fun with RPGs where you have a party and some characters can get fucked while the rest are still fighting. But that's not too common, for whatever reason, and most of those like turning the sex into cutscenes which interrupt the battle every turn, just slowing things down.Dungeons and Prisoners is a mystery dungeon / Shiren style game where your companion can get dragged off and fucked while you're still exploring and engaging in combat.I wouldn't say that it's necessarily impossible, but a lot of porn games seem to want to focus on the big flashy splash screen graphic and so they'll always interrupt gameplay because you need to stop playing the game to see the splash screen.
A good game typically does not hammer you with long unskippable cutscenes, but that's what porn is.
>>724200452because every failed attempt comes from rpgmslop and anything aliggned with it>>724207518>>724207243also these>>724208969if by print you mean the reason its still not blowing up then sure
>>724212329>Setting aside the fact that there is no general consensus on what constitutes a good game, much less a good porn gameFor porn games specifically I think a big part of the issue as to the lack of clarity on what constitutes a good porn game lies in consumer expectations/understanding, or at least it does here in the west. The japs generally understand the distinction between eroge and nukige, while a lot of retards here in the west don't, and then rage when they end up playing a game and don't come across enough porn in the first 30 minutes to get their rocks off.
>>724200452Mostly because it's easy to make an average one and there's little reason to go further than that.
jap games are unplayable for methey dont into anatomy, I dont into censorsed genitalia. if they use voice effects during scenes I turn them off since I dont masturbate to stabbed pigs eitherkoreans and chinese both make better games since they're not steeped into incestuous jap trope blackholesdilmur is probably the best game out there
>>724202062He probably wanted the fucking more than the fun, otherwise he would play a normal game>>724202440A lot of these games make the same mistake : nsfw games need to have something arousing on the screen at all times (which is why karryn prison, parasite in city and mage kanade work so well, we see the girl's portrait constantly, with damaged clothes or a default sexy outfit)
>>724213706Indeed there is, and that lack of understanding pervades the entire western market's perception of porn games as a result. Because westerners do not seem to bother with distinguishing these genres, all those games are mistakenly all lumped together and judged according to a mixture of conflicting standards. Even comparing RPG Maker h-games like MGQ Paradox to TLS would quickly reveal that their audiences differ dramatically since the two present very different experiences.
