>60% of matches have an obvious hacker

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>>724202143
>turbofaggot eceleb makes scandalous video to try and revive dead youtuber career with little evidence
>every midwit believes him because 'duhhhhh tthis guy with 6000 hours MUST be cheating'

>>724202281
Sorry. I'll stick with single player tarkov.

>>724202364
filtered

>>724201903
Really want to play this game but just waiting for the steam release since Battlestate are jews and won't give keys for existing purchases.
Been playing Arena Breakout as the Temu Tarkov and its still pretty fun. Just goes to show how good the core formula is.

you just made this thread and it died at two replies

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>>724202514
Arena Breakout is a game that wears thin very quickly, stripping away all the progression mechanics and gamifying stuff further like damage and range between guns/calibres and the armour system so anyone wearing good stuff is literally invulnerable to other players until it breaks leads to the experience feeling super shallow
especially with the squad mechanics. either you find friends to shitstomp randoms with, queue up with randoms and suffer braindead morons, or go solo and get mogged because everyone else can just rez each other infinitely

>>724202406
I know. It's hard playing a game where the only people left on the live servers are all hackers. I have nothing to prove to you

how are they moving to 1.0 already? i fucking hate this shit. kenshi did the same thing, moving 1 version iteration at a time before just suddenly deciding to "fully release" because the dev didnt wanna admit they got burnout

does tarkov even have radiation zones or gas toxicity yet? they promised an open world, but so far we've gotten raid transitions

also nigiter needs to make the performance better otherwise whats the fucking point

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>>724203667
anon, the game has been in beta for 9 years now, it wasn't even meant to get like a third of the content it has originally
>does tarkov even have radiation zones or gas toxicity yet? they promised an open world
they teased toxicity in a couple of last year's events (namely the zombie event but there was a prewipe event where a toxin would spread across a map and you had to use gas masks and antidotes to keep yourself safe while more and more loot drops came in IIRC)
open world is still apparently something they plan on post-release at some point. I can see it happening if they still want to work on R2028 and they stick to Unity. open worlds on Unity CAN work, the game is just in a messy state at the moment where any larger maps than current streets are going to set people's PCs on fire. we'll see

>>724204212
>it wasn't even meant to get like a third of the content it has originally
lol

>>724204343
it's true, the game was just meant to be a short fundraiser for R2028
if the game hadn't blown up in 2019-2020 it would've ended development by now

>>724202281
imagine spending money on a game that is guaranteed to have hackers ruin it for you. You are literally getting cucked.

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>>724204779
imagine forgoing all contact with other people in video games and missing out on actually interesting gunfights or even cooperation with others because NOOOOOOOOO I DIED TO SOME GUY CHEATING ONE TIME LITERALLY UNPLAYABLE!!!!
I bet you don't leave your house too because some black guy might mug you kek

funny troll devs
>have an anti-cheat that bans normal players while ru cheaters run around freely

>been in alpha/beta for nearly 10 years
why are modern developers like this?

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>>724205008
>normal players

>>724201903
The fact the best way to play your hardcore PvP shooter is with the PvE mode the devs added in a panic when the game was bleeding players should tell you that fat fuck niggita can't release a good completed game

>>724205147
Because they can be.

>>724202281
Ive been using sane cheats since the pre-alpha launch.
I can do whatever I want and never get banned.

>>724205164
quiet like a turtle is such a dumb expression. kek
>>724205381
yeah okay wannabe chang

>>724205461
Nigger please. You can edit the gane files and be able to walk through walls.
It's been like this for years and the devs are too incompetent to fix their shit.
And desu its too difficult at this point since the game is full of spaghetti

>>724204935
>actually interesting gunfights
I once landed 40 hits on a guy with a m4a1 but because of the jrpg stats I lost the battle. Wow so interesting.

>>724204935
Nah I just won't play this hacker infested game, simple as that. I don't know why that bothers you so much. There are tons of better games to play without having to worry about hackers devs won't do anything about.

You guys trying out Arc Raiders? Probably gonna watch some gameplay videos before dropping 60 bucks on that.

Escape from cheaters lmao

If the fat bastard stopped randomly making shit worse because hurr durr hardcore without thinking about any of the effects its going to have it might not have had to force wait times to be longer just to start games

>>724202281
I played your hacker infested game and its more like 90% of matches. They don't even pretend to give a shit. It's hackers vs. hackers and normals are the fodder.
>>724206064
Yeah it was fun, but Embark has really bad anticheat for The Finals that doesn't keep hackers out, so I don't have high hopes for the game.

>>724206370
Well, they did release a "softcore" patch recently.

>>724201903
Why would I be excited for a game that is already out & I've already played?

>>724206560
tarkov tards trying to create hype for this ancient game is really weird
I think they just want fresh cannon fodder to abuse

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>>724201903
>Release a big map called "streets of Tarkov" 4 years ago
>Funnel like half the game's quest on the map so you'll inevitably have to play it
>The optimization was so bad you can't even get a solid 60 fps with a 5090
>Game is straight up f2p. You'll either have a $3000 pc or you're not going to shoot a damn thing at 20 fps.
>Not even the most hardcore Tarkov streamer with 9800X3D + 5090 pretends to like the map
>4 years later 1.0 is coming out and they still haven't do anything about it
>Wonder why nobody wants to play this game anymore

And that's just one of the five hundred reasons why people are leaving Tarkov

>>724201903
i'll buy it and play exclusively pve

I got a week key for Kernaim a few months before that wiggle video came out because i was convinced there was at least several cheaters in each raid and while it wasn't each raid, easily more than half had minimum of 1-2 cheaters. Shoreline especially would have an entire 4 man squad of cheaters that i would trail with ESP on to see if they'd wiggle back at me and they always did
pve is cool but doesn't have the same feel as pvp. since i got it included in my EOD edition i just play that when im bored. i'll never touch pvp again

>>724202143
You're way exaggerating, or maybe it depends on your location. From what I've experienced (I only played for like two years, and I haven't played since 1 year ago), there are waves of cheaters depending on the availability of cheats, and a lot of them are simply siphoning the loot while avoiding other players, which is still obnoxious of course.

>>724204212
I stopped playing because some maps like Customs stopped being fluid on my old toaster. I don't know if it has been fixed but I doubt it, so maybe I'll come back to this game when I buy a new PC.

>>724201903
is the cheater situation resolved?

>>724201903
it filtered me because Linux

extractionslop niggers have to be the most insufferable faggots in gaming. even gachaniggers are self aware

>>724211885
you can play SPtarkov on linux and i think technically, you can play official pve tarkov on linux now too
but SPtarkov ran like total fucking aids last time i gave it a go, dunno what got changed there.

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No, not really. I played it years ago, and nothing about 1.0 is enough to make me interested enough to come back. If Battlestate somehow acts completely out of character and releases a good update for once, maybe in several months I might look at it with some friends. But I certainly wouldn't give them any more money by re-buying it on steam.

>>724211885
Yeah that sucks. You could still play SPT. But playing against bots is simply not the same.

>>724201903
piggies cant wait to slurp more cum out of their useless russian scamming kike daddy nigita

SPT mod is a game changer, turns it into a fun FPS cookie clicker.
Let me host a server for myself and my friends easily (yes I know it’s already possible) and we will buy and play your game (without Chinese/Eastern European interruption).

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>>724201903
It releases on my birthday which is pretty cool
But aside from that im sort of indifferent. So much cool shit they said they would add back in 2019-2020 yet all we've gotten was arena, more streets add-ons, and that new beginner map I can't remember the name of
Town and Suburbs were removed off the map, alongside any talk of skyscraper DLCs
I'll just wait for the SPT devs + modders to make tarkov good while I wait for Russia 2028 (prob now 2038) kino

>>724204212
It'll never have open world and probably never those other things either. They're too limited by their spagetti code and are trying to wrap it up to work on their next game.

>>724211098
>>724205215
PVE is alright when you're new, but it just doesn't provide the rush of PVP and I can't go back to it at this point

>>724211829
What's your cpu? I've gotta upgrade my gpu but 5700x3d still seemed good enough earlier this year

The only vidya fanbase more pathetic than Tarkov's is Star Citizen's.
Tarkov was never good and it will never be good, not to mention being ready.
It's a fucking Russian scam.
Nikita himself sells cheats for his own game, then he bans the chink cheaters because he knows that the chink cheaters will buy more HUNDRED AND FORTY DOLLAR accounts.
That's right, the cheapest edition of Tarkov that you need to play it comfortably is 140 dollars.

>>724214503
Nah.
The best edition is the $60 standard on discount and then install SPT.

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>>724201903
> im heckin tacticool larperator i use my epic ak-666 with a cool holosun scope from temu im so cool and tactical
I bet you lard ass cant even run a mile

I wish they'd start the snow and Xmas event earlier. May as well have it start in December and go through all of January. Its cozy af and the best time to play the game to me at this point. Best if it coincides with the wipe though really

>>724213980
>Town and Suburbs
Think those are the most likely post launch content we'll see

>>724214143
It's a very old Intel 5000 series. I just have to let it go. The problem is that I can't change it yet because I have more important things to finance.

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>>724201903
>Guy who's only watched one movie in the past decade: Wow this is literally the only innovative movie made in the past 10 years

>>724214503
Tarkov is a good game if you get it for free.
Played stalker, wanted more gunplay and customization, played SPT, enjoyed my time. Ultimately went back to stalker though. Good game may return to it spent $0 on it zero interest in multiplayer.

>>724211286
The PvP in this game is sincerely unplayable and a huge waste of time. I would advise anyone to not buy it at all. Anyone discussing this already has probably so install SPT if you like the idea of the game, and make sure not to give Nikita more money and buy the PvE mode.

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Escape from Duckov won, you will never be a woman, dile 8

>>724209952
what game?

>>724215807
Escape from Tarkov

>>724201903
>You're excited for 1.0, right anons?
scared.

>>724201903
>You're excited for 1.0, right anons?
lol this crap still isnt finished? fuck whipes lol!

Tarkov is a fun game to learn, once you've learnt it the fun vanishes

Anyone defending the PvP should watch this video and then try to defend it again after doing so: https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=p5LfGcDB7Ek&pp=ygUNVGFya292IHdpZ2dsZQ%3D%3D

>>724209952
>The optimization was so bad you can't even get a solid 60 fps with a 5090
(not true, by the way)
I'm getting 120fps on Streets at ultra 1440p UW with a 4090 + 7800X3D

What's innovative?

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>>724205215
The game's bones are amazing. The maps are exquisite and the gun modding is the best there is. Where it fails is the multiplayer. The game NEEDS region locked servers and much more attentive administration towards cheaters as well as solo-only lobbies. And this is why people play the PVE.

>>724201903
>You're excited for 1.0, right anons?
Not really. If you'd asked me in 2017, I would've absolutely-the-fuck said yes. But I'm kinda done with Tarkov. It was better before trader quests existed. I can't be bothered to fucking grind that shit again. Not to mention how shit the game feels to play with reset character skills. I just wanna gear up, go innaraid, loot, and shoot. I wanna level my traders by doing that like the good old days, not by collecting toilet paper and placing markers in the women's restroom. Retards that can't play any game without being explicitly told what to do at all times or without having some super long grind to participate in infuriate me.

>>724209952
People clown on UE5 but unity is such a piece of shit it's not even funny

>>724216204
watched it years ago. still played. still had fun. ran into maybe 4 for sure cheaters last wipe i played. can't say the same for any other fps from the last 5 years.

>>724201903
its fucking shit and instead of being FUN its designed to make you rage and want to take a 'revenge' by ruining others game

>>724216204
I was playing at the time and surviving 60-70% of my raids and getting way more player kills than deaths anyway, so I didn't give much of a shit. Cheaters have been in my games since I started playing online FPS games with BF2. Most of them are garbage, even with walls.

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>>724216873
>I died so I want to cheat
Why are you such a histrionic faggot?

This would have been such an amazing game if it wasn't made by a russian dev. They literally cannot stop scamming.

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>>724202281
As someone who doesn't play Tarkov, I'm still baffled that video got so much traction and people post it like it's some damning condemnation of the state of online games. He shows like a dozen clips of hackers in a forty minute video and had to apologize for one of them being wrong. Even if you're willing to take him at his word, he basically admits you can't trust his figures by saying he's not willing to post more clips for risk of false accusations.

>>724217117
>western dev
>pay $15 for every new map+gun release
>Nikki Manaj skins
>tons of chat, name, and VOIP policing
Pick your poison

>>724202364
filtered

>>724203354
Reddit take. Imagine playing against dogshit AI. Tarkov loses all its juice if you remove the pvp aspect

Stop cheating you fucking animals

Why would I play the game when I could just watch the peanut guy play it instead? It's ten million times more entertaining than actually playing that piece of crap.

>>724217248
Kids today love drama, they were raised on youtube so any little shred of drama they can get is a massive hit of dopamine. The other sad fact is that with how mainstream gaming is today, and how mentally ill most people are, there's a LARGE portion of the gaming community who don't actually play games but still want to be a part of the scene. Instead of playing games for enjoyment they draw their fun from drama, as noted above, any game that is bad they hop on and torment endlessly because it feeds their drama addiction. Any game that happens to be good gets the same treatment, to them a good game is utterly useless because they have no intention of playing it, so instead they troll, shitpost, zombiepost, they do everything they can to try and create drama.

The other uncomfortable truth is that cheating as a whole is far more common today than it used to be and it's trending upwards as time goes on. Every game is stuffed with cheaters today, hardcore or casual, and the real dangerous part is how normalized the idea of cheating has become. People don't see an issue with something like botting quests or crafting in a MMO, it doesn't help that cheating tools and communities are easier to access through discord and whatnot.

>>724201903
>please come back to play so I can cheat.

No.

>>724217279
>Russian dev
>Pay $150 for the elite version
>Pay another $79.99 for the TDM mode
>Pay another $150 for the steam release
>Meanwhile keys are sold in bundles for a few bucks in china and russia

I'm fucking good bro

>>724211829
Yeah I used to be able to play pretty fine on my 1060ti (9 year old fucking game) but it’s got worse and can’t play now.

Arena plays buttery smooth

>>724214889
>muh hollow knight
>muh exp33

Pfft

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>>724217248
It's why I cannot take anyone who posts that video seriously. It's literally just because it feeds into their attitude of everyone who's better than them cheating. And look, I'm sure there absolutely are closet cases, but the majority of the time when I see someone say a guy MUST be cheating and it's not some obvious ragehacker account with 50 hours and a 80K/D it's a situation where there are absolutely legitimate explanations for their death.
eg. I've seen a lot of guys call cheats on people because they're sitting AFK in a bush and someone shoots them after running past, but if you've played long enough you end up finding out that bushes occasionally bug out and make rustling noises on the server side without the actual player in the bush hearing anything. That sort of thing. Or knowing a common angle that's held as an ambush point or shooting someone off spawn. It happens. The game is janky enough for a lot of info to be given away that shouldn't be.
I say all this as an OCEfag, and we DO get cheaters the worst out of arguably any region due to close proximity to China and SEA + a small local population.

>>724201903
I wonder how this genre will look like in a few years, since Bungie is making a extraction shooter with Marathon, and there are rumours/soft conformation that Riot Games is also making one, set in the Valorant universe.

So i wonder, do these big AAA companies think there is a billion dollar GaaS game, that could be developed from this genre

>>724217676
It's impossible to know in tarkov because there is no killcam. You'd need something like the replay feature that PUBG added to truly figure out what happened.

>>724217547
Yes, it's all shit. That's what "pick your poison" means. At least this way it's mostly a bunch of totally unnecessary wastes of money that don't actually impact the main game in any meaningful way (though the arena thing and supergoy editions were both scummy as fuck). I can still find Mecha_Hitler in my raid, have some drunk retard yelling slurs on mic, and I don't have to look at obnoxious neon shit or celebrity skins.

>>724217718
What? your stash size absolutely impacts the game and having the entire fucking arena mode being a separate purchase is the scummiest shit imaginable

get the fuck out

>>724217350
When you're a noob it's still fun... at least spt w/ ai mods was for a bit, but eventually yeah, only pvp gets the adrenaline going

>>724217767
Don't care. Containers are in the game. You're set. I played multiple wipes on the tiny stash, including before any containers existed and post tasks. Stop hogging so much gear. Sell more shit and buy some fucking cases. It doesn't affect your raids at all.

>>724217248
>I'm still baffled that video got so much traction
It garnered a ton of attention because Nikita, the main Tarkov dev, is on record for saying that he supports and approves of the use of cheats for games; the chief reasoning being that it generates more money for his company.

Early EFT had a massive cheater problem due to lack of anti-cheat software. When faced with public backlash over this situation, the devs stated that they had a working in-house anti-cheat engine and that everything was within acceptable parameters. They tripled down on refusing to use even a stopgap like EAC or punkbuster; their only response towards the criticism was that their in-house anti-cheat was working as intended.

Doesn't take a rocket surgeon to piece two and two together. Online videogame cheating is a multi-billion dollar industry.

>>724217864
It directly impacts the game, it's not cosmetic, therefor it is scummy. As already said it's a shame the game was made by russians, this kinda shit runs in their veins and it's held back the game from the very beginning.

>>724217697
maybe when those games come out and are actually good, bsg will finally get off their asses and fix this fucking game for ones

>>724209952
yeah this but for the whole game. Obviously streets is particularly bad but the game just runs like shit and that's why I stopped playing it. If I could get over 100 fps consistently on every map that would make me want to play

>>724217964
It has no effect on raids. Yes, it impacts the game. You have to be more discriminatory regarding what you keep, especially before you get a junkbox, and that's annoying to deal with. But it's not a big deal. Hence "don't actually impact the main game in any meaningful way" with the operative word being "meaningful".

>>724201903
I'm playing the chinese duck parody of it.

>>724202281
my friend hacks ever since labs and has never been banned or caught

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>>724217697
all these other devs are afraid of making a game that is legitimately punishing. this is something that I think can be explained by Russian devs vs. Western devs. Russians are used to needless suffering. It's been a part of their upbringing for basically as long as the concept of Russia as a unified state has existed. Tarkov has both the highest highs and the lowest lows. If you're new you can get to the point where you've lost so much that your only way forward in any reasonable amount of time is to reset your account and move on with the knowledge that you've gained. That is a serious rarity in modern gaming.
That is not going to happen in an AAA game. Monetisation is 90% of the issue. Those devs don't want you to quit their game. They want RETENTION. So they make things easy and convenient (notice how much of these Tarkov clones rattle on about quality of life and it becomes obvious), and as such the magic is lost.
I think the only other extraction games that I've seen maintain this aspect are Dark and Darker and Gray Zone Warfare, both of which have their own issues.
Tarkov to me, apologies in advance for using a very cliche trope of game discussion, feels a lot like the Souls games in this regard where the devs are not worried about losing you. They might not 'respect your time' in the traditional sense, but they respect your intelligence as an adult human being and expect you to be able to put your big boy pants on and THINK things through instead of feeding it to you on a silver platter. This is something that's increasingly rarer in gaming thanks to basically 95% of the industry now being aimed at the lowest common denominator.

>>724218068
It's scummy, move on lil bro.

>>724217350
>Tarkov loses all its juice if you remove the pvp aspec
It does not. People can find different aspects of tarkov enticing, but an autistic person cannot fathom that people might like different things.

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>>724201903
>Not on steam

>>724218207
Yes, and? I didn't say it wasn't. I agreed with you that it was shit. Were you under the impression that I was arguing otherwise, retard? I was saying I'd rather deal with some goy pandering than obnoxious shit and politically correct faggotry inside the actual game. Learn to read

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>>724218262
soon, anon
and YES, I will be buying it on day 1 on Steam despite already having EOD + Unheard

>>724218251
We've been over this many times, the main point of tarkov is PvP, the entire game is designed to put you the player in stressful situations and for you to find a way through them. If you remove the other players from the equation you are left with a husk of a game, there is no purpose to it, and you got filtered.

If you want to talk about being a wuss do it somewhere else, it's embarrassing.

>>724218174
>they respect your intelligence as an adult human being
Edge of Darkness edition and Unheard of Edition
(You)

>>724201903
>have an okay idea
>completely fuck it the fuck up

>>724218319
P2W is the worst, period, and that's what this is. Skins and cosmetics are annoying but harmless. Splitting off an entire game mode to sell as a standalone game is the most quintessentially russian thing to do I can imagine, not only is it greedy but it also hamstrings your game, a lose/lose situation.

>>724218337
>We've been over this many times
And you still don't get it, people find different parts of tarkov enticing or fun, not everyone needs the PVP component as it's more often frustrating than tense. Ultimately I found a few coop rounds after a break more fun than any of my 500+ hours of normal Tarkov. You're free to kvetch about people not playing as you want them to, but don't expect anyone to take you seriously.

>>724218326
Based.

>>724218495
I'm not gonna go down the P2W hole with you when you think stash space is so monumentally detrimental to the game because you can't manage your own shit. It doesn't affect my ability to PVP, so it's not enough P2W for me to give a shit about, and that's all I'll say on that. We're not competing for who has the prettiest stash, so I don't give a damn.

>>724218502
The PvP component IS the game anon, it is a deathmatch, a high stakes one.

>>724218557
P2W is P2W, russian is as russian does.

>>724218638
Yeah, that's great. I admire your principles. I personally don't care about P2W that doesn't affect me when the alternative is moral policing and extremely jarring skins.

I got 2000 hours in, mostly from 2019 to now but I generally only play one wipe a year really fucking hard for 2 months.

One thing that stands out for Tarkov is the maps, the interiors are really lived in and as shitty as many quests are they do a good job making people go around all kinds of places to make encounters somewhat random. Lighthouse sucks, but I really think every other map are well above games like ABI, Arc Raiders and Marathon.

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>>724218502
>PVP in a PVP gaem ist BAYUHD GOYIM

Way to miss the entire point of the fuckin game

>>724218669
You're getting slime everywhere man, chill out.

>>724218783
luh
mao

>>724218326
Steam will have a boost but like 80% of the players will just be on BSG. I expect alot of shit flinging between people comparing Steam numbers of Arc Raiders to Tarkov

>>724218673
I genuinely don't think any of the other tarkovlikes will ever be good because it feels like a repeat of the pubg situation, they want to copy the concept but not the gameplay. All the battle royale modes we've seen went fast, arcadey, cartoonish, and none of them tried to keep the slower and slightly sim aspect of pubg or even the arma mod. Tarkov is even further down the sim road and it's copycats don't seem to want to follow.

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>>724201903
no nikita im not buying your hacker infested game fuck off.

>>724218886
It's too late honestly, BSG killed the hype with their money grubbing. If they had thrown it on steam at the peak of their streamer hype train it would have been enormous.

>>724218362
>optional supporter editions are bad because... THEY JUST ARE, OKAY?!

>>724218174
This is why Tarkov is still relevant despite copies improving in many ways on the formula, theybsimply cannot resist giving the player so much free shit and second chances that the tension is gone. I know guys that refuse to move beyond a crouch waloingnpace for fear of revealingntheir position but on any other escape game they just run around looting and shooting freely because it matters not whether they die.

>>724219015
Yeah i pretty much came to the same realization after seeing ABI. Tarkov's aesthetic, soundscape, intricacies, even the jankiness has a charm all its own once you get used to it. Basically, BSG is brain damaged in just the right way - literally lightning in a bottle and nobody else has the ability to make a game quite like it

>>724219907
pretending to be retarded still makes you retarded

>>724204935
Except Tarkov isn't some 1 out of a million game
Why should I put up with cheating when I can hop to any other military sim shooter?

>>724218502
This guy walks into fighting game threads discussing the arcade mode

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>supposedly "ultra turbo realistic" when it comes to guns
>give game a try
>get Mosin
>nice.jpg
>it's 5+1
>real Mosins can't do this
>shoot some dude with a welding mask on point-blank in the face with Mosin
>he still lives
>mfw
>alt+f4
Tarkov is for zoomer posers.

>>724219015
I think they can be fun, I imagine Arc Raiders will be fun for 100-200 hours. 1000 hours? Hell nah

I will never forgive that stupid faggot for adding scav rep

>>724220000
For me it's that if I wanted to run around like a zoomer I'd just play battlefield or some other run-n-shooty game for mindless blasting. The fun in a game like PUBG or Tarkov is as much in the planning as it is the fighting, the time spent routing your way through a map or setting up for an engagement is just as fun as engaging someone. Oh well I guess, no fun allowed.

>>724218174
>If you're new you can get to the point where you've lost so much that your only way forward in any reasonable amount of time is to reset your account and move on with the knowledge that you've gained. That is a serious rarity in modern gaming.
you will never reach this point as long as scaving is a thing.
there is always a way to get out of the hole
>>724220170
use better ammo and you can, its actually as realistic as you say it is. you aint gunna kill someone with armor with a 10 pen round

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>>724220170
me but playing battlefield with shotgun slugs, headshotting people from 10 feet away only for them to tank a 547 grain projectile to the dome and keep moving while i get drilled for barely 75 damage from a gun shooting 9mm and die instantly


nobody who makes these shitty games has ever even touched a gun

>>724220286
>its actually as realistic as you say it is
You have never shot a real gun.

Barnaul's piss-tier steel case nugget food out of a 1939 shitrod that's seen more war than a 90yo Afghan man will go through a modern level III+ kevlar helmet.

t. owns two real Mosin Nagant rifles

The game was fun in the first few beta releases. Now it's a tedious scavenger hunt that requires hours of menu flipping and item sorting due to feature and equipment bloat.
>you want to put up shelvesin the hideout? You need a screw driver and screws. No you can't use the toolkit in your inventory that has a screwdriver shown in it, you have to find an individual screwdriver.
>no you can't use that set of pliers, you have to find a slightly different set of pliers with different coloured handles.
>no you can't buy this equipment you haven't leveled up enough or done the trader quests.

Actually getting into intense firefights and using all the interesting FPS features is the thing you do the least of and the gear balance is so unfair that you might as well not bother in some situations.
Certain aspects of the game are utterly broken and have never been fixed, hacking has never been fixed and the devs listen to whatever streamers want them to do even if it's a bad idea
>I don't like that a scrub with a mosin killed me nerf it

>>724217676
>It's literally just because it feeds into their attitude of everyone who's better than them cheating. And look, I'm sure there absolutely are closet cases, but the majority of the time when I see someone say a guy MUST be cheating
Yeah, people act like there's cheaters in every match they play in any shooter they play and it's such ridiculous cope. And if they aren't blaming cheaters then they're crying that everybody who beats them is a sweaty tryhard playing like their life is on the line with 9k hours in the game because their egos are so massive they can't fathom losing otherwise.

>>724220479
Go play Red Orchestra/Rising Storm then

>>724201903
Not filtered.

I just don't play games that are full of hackers because the PC community can't handle themselves and the devs refuse to do anything about it because why ban a paying customer thats spending money!

>>724202281
You are not a real human, you are a russian shill bot running of a sim card in bangladesh.


Take in thermals or a ultra rare item, spawn and sit in a bush nobody would ever look at and pretend to be afk.

A single grenade will be thrown at your feet 9 rounds out of 10.

>>724201903
The funniest thing about this game is that they had to nerf 7.62x54r because all the sweaty tryhard streamers were getting killed by hobos with Mosins. Also it's a vatnikwank game, no actual human beings play this.

Loot extraction is the worst kind of FPS game.

>>724202281
My first week of seriously playing the game I got 2 confirmed reports for hackers. And I wasn't even reporting everyone or a lot at all, some were just so blatant even my noob ass could tell
And that was just on the new player GZ, can't imagine how bad it is on the maps with actual good loot

>>724201903
>Oh you didn't purchase the $250 DLC boost with extra stash space? Guess I win this fight, gg.
>Oh you didn't purchase the $35 arena side game and do your daily challenges? Guess I win this fight too, gg.
Skip.
Terminals gonna be a PvE map

>>724220220
thats why id bet that most of the cheaters in tarkov are zoomers - at least in the US they sure seem to be.

>>724201903
>long ass match making
>thirst and hunger mechanics
>cant automate making and reading loadout (automatically buy and put water, food, meds etc in your bag)
idk what slavshits are thinking but literally all it takes is a few adjustments to make this game WAY more fun

>>724201903
Is there matchmaking with randoms yet?

>>724221609
I mean with random teams, where you can join another team that wants to fill up

>>724221536
Typical tarkov gameplay with a friend group who has been playing it since earliest beta:
>play round, extract or die in 30 or so minutes
>spend 40mins in lobby going through the tedium thanks to tarkovs absolute lack of any qol even after 10 fucking years.

Im glad arc is coming out since im fucking tired of doing the same shtittest, laziest, most repetetive ass quests, competing with hackers and overall having identical experience in every fucking wipe since 20 fucking 16

>>724201903
I wish I’d gotten filtered earlier so I wouldn’t have wasted my time on this dogshit game.

>>724215512
Duckov is too much fun
>die in Warehouses to merc squad with AP rounds trying to deliver a package
>go back out to get my shit back
>put into that corner in the northwest side of the map
>Lordon, his fucking mutt and three mercs with ARs blocking the way out
>die like a bitch
Also night time sucks, those spiderbots are assholes

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>>724201903
>Its sweats and cheaters seal clubbing gearless newbies like its some dying old mmo episode
let me guess steam release is their last ditch effort at becoming relevant?

>>724218337
Concession accepted

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>>724215512
Falseflagging Arc Raiders shill, Duckovchads are often Tarkov enjoyers.

>>724221990
i cant believe i got memed into buying duckov
fucking garbage

>>724221809
>get my shit back
Enable lost gear on death, it's better that way. Unlike Zero Sievert you don't get lasered from offscreen and you can actually kill people even if you don't have the best ammo.

>>724221878
>>724220062

>>724222129
>he falls for peer pressure and herd mentality instead of making his own opinion from gameplay footage
Sounds like a (you) problem, enjoying Duckov myself right now. Be careful to not fall for the Arc Raiders hype as well, everyone's shilling it so you'll maybe fall for that too.

>>724222220
Second concession accepted, you only need to do it once though
You can move on from this thread now, thanks

>>724201903
>500 eu edition
>battlepass
>early access for 8 years
>still janky as fuck
>still lightyears away from all the shit they've promised
KWAB

>>724222167
I didn't even look at the difficulty options desu, I didn't know that was an option

>>724222129
>>724222253
If you wanted a PVE game with that vibe I don't understand why you wouldn't just mod STALKER or play Project Silverfish aka furry Stalker

>>724220170
Its an rpg game mascaraing as mil sim shooter. Hitboxes also used realistic but cheaters and sweats alike would start to cry en masse because you couldnt dunk on low-tier gear as per usual, so they changed it back. That should tell you everything you need to know about this game.

I played decent amount one wipe long ago
then once they wipe my progress I just cant be bother to play it again
now that its 1.0 and no longer have wipe I might try it again when I feel like it but spt is good enough imo

>>724222395
You can't use custom difficulty on a current save, so you'll have to switch to Extreme. It's not ballbustingly hard, just have to play a bit more careful.

>>724201903
No thanks man. I'll watch the occasional gameplay video if I get the delusion that this game might be fun to play.

>>724201903
>hold your hand

Nonsense. The game is full of sweats and cheaters (proven many times). Great if you're shut-in and losing hours of progress is no problemo. Fucking garbage if you don't spend every waking hour playing videogames because you have a life.

>bosses have supernatural health pools and can take .338 bullets to the head without a problem
The thing I hate the most about Tarkov.

>>724222494
Maybe on the second playthrough when I check out the mods for the game
There's some good shit on the workshop already, those chinamen work fast

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Should I buy Duckov while waiting for this?

>>724202514
>won't give keys for existing purchases
Wait really? That's beyond retarded. Can the off-steam players at least play with Steamies?

>>724203041
Ratting is kind of fun but I agree that the actual armor system is just bonkers. It's so silly right now that from what I can tell a meta has evolved to just circumvent it by running dumdum rounds on a gun that can hose like the Vector and just blow their legs out before they can really react.

>>724201903
Handholding? For what? There is nothing to this game
If you arent a milsim autist the only thing to it is autistic RPG stats and bullet sponge bosses

>>724222253
everything about duckov is frustrating and shallow and heavily gatekeeping quest progress behind item drop RNG is fucking bullshit
i've been stuck on body training for 10 hours because another fucking vodka wont drop while i'm swimming in whiskey and coke

>>724222129
>bought the FOTM
You deserved everything bad that ever happened to you

>>724201903
Sell me on Tarkov.
I don't think I've seen any gameplay of it outside of healing animations. What is it?
All I've ever heard made it sound like an extraction shooter. Did it create the genre?

>>724224406
yes
the main way to sell you on it is if you're a guntist. in other games your complaint will be 'woah they modelled this completely incorrectly and also I don't like the sight choices'...
your complaints in Tarkov will be 'damn I wish they added this specific mid-1990s handguard by a boutique company already' and 'uhhhh this calibre does slightly better against armour than it should'
it's something close to a milsim turned into an RPG. theres really isn't much like it out there. the usual STALKER modpacks everyone recommends and DayZ are KIND OF close but they don't really have the same level of craft in terms of level/world design, sheer attention to detail when it comes to gear, that sort of thing

>>724224406
It's a PvP extraction shooter that aims to be more or less "realistic". As such it has very in depth weapon customisation, gear selection, and gunplay along with light rpg elements in the form of skills, trader loyalty, quests, and a hideout that you can upgrade. It's fun(sometimes) but held back by sweat, meta, odd balancing decisions, map design and some oddly implemented/not quite developed mechanics and ideas. Personally I think a more RPG approach and better maps would make the game much better.

But the absolute BIGGEST issue with Tarkov is that progression is gatekept behind wiki pages and youtube guides.

I understand like not holding your hand at all, it's one of the actually greatest parts about Tarkov is how there isn't like a tutorial or anything at all which is nice. But the fact that there are some quests where there is actually no way to know how to complete them without either looking it up on Tarkov Wiki, watching a guide video on Youtube, or having a friend show you, is just outright bad design imo. For instance Jaegers note will literally filter 1000s of first time Steam players because without any of those it is literally impossible to find and it's one of the first quests. Plus if they release 1.0 around winter and have winter season with the ground all white lmao good luck finding it on your own as a first timer. It's literally not skill issue either when new quests come out even top streamers of the game are constantly asking their chat "yo chat which room is it in? Which building do I go to?" I'm not saying add some minimap fuckassshit with a dot on it or anything but maybe when you go to accept a quest it shows you a little picture of the immediate area it means and not just some generic map art. (Some quests actually do that but not all)

>>724224406
Don't buy it. It's P2W, and the devs are lazy, greedy, lying fucks. Half the changes in updates seem to exist solely to make the game less enjoyable and more tedious. You NEED to look up shit on the internet or else you'll be stuck in your first raid with no idea where your exit is. And absolutely everything you hear about how bad the hackers are is true. And all this is barely the tip of the iceberg, there's so much more bullshit.

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>>724201903
>difficulty by obscurity is le heckin' awesome! I love spending more time reading wikis and watching guides on youtube than playing the game!

>>724202281
>Attack the person but not the information

Stopped playing this game completely when the unheard edition came out. I kind of miss playing with my friends, but oh well.

>>724201903
>generic military slop
No way buddy

This game was so fucking fun for a few weeks.

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>>724226365
forgot pic

have they fixed the cheater issue? i experienced two in a short time frame between eachother when i last played which made me drop the game forever

>>724226487
>devs keep insisting they're going to release an update ANY DAY NOW while the game slowly drops into 1 digit concurrent player count
Painful

>>724221452
I'll give you arena since DLC rooms are busted(heard they got nerfed), but stash space is a nothingburger that doesn't do shit. What IS P2W is Gamma(can carry CMS/Surv, extra ammo and keys) and free rep - sure, best gear is still locked behind quests but LL2 lets you dunk on newbies early on.

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>>724228221
they've changed secure containers again, looks like meds/ammo are going to be locked from it going into 1.0 if this current wipe and its schizo array of changes are anything to go by (but you at least get to put CMS kits in the first special slot so all editions get equal access to limb repairs), so basically all it'll be good for beyond keys is carrying extra food/water on maps where they're scarce and shoving shit up your arse to sell to traders if you die

>>724228989
Isn't this wipe some hardcore bullshit? Doubt it'll stay for full release, because that would make high tier meds(especially the injectors) nearly useless.

>>724201903
buy an d nikita, also, nobody wants to play arena, put the p2w headphones on skier 3 or some shit

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>>724229532
they gave up on the hardcore wipe stuff about 4 weeks into wipe and they reverted all changes + made a bunch of casual 'end of wipe/end of the road' changes a few weeks back, it's basically the only change remaining from hardcore wipe and they ended up putting it into PvE so it's a decent chance that it DOES stay
and honestly I like it, means people are less likely to bring 2 mags max and topload a bunch from their completely safe storage or have all their meds shoved up there preventing you from accessing them after a bloody firefight
>>724229648
yeah this new arena shit is retarded. really hoping it changes with 1.0 because it's so stupid of them to shoot themselves in the leg right before launch

>>724202281
Assuming that video is completely fabricated, there are very clearly hackers in Tarkov, and even one hacker in every 20 matches is too many in a game where death is punished as heavily as it is in Tarkov. Why would you put yourself through that?

>>724221809
It's great, especially with a couple of mods like giving loot rarity colors. But it makes me want to reinstall and mod SPT

it filters me because it takes 15 minutes to build a loadout, 15 mins to load, 10 minutes to get where i want to go, 30 seconds to die and 5 minutes to load back to the menu.

>>724227196
>>724226487
Pack it up bro it's over.

>>724201903
cheater problem fixed? no? fuck off then

This game has so many rampant cheaters you will get bored of it after the 5th raid and then cope with scav runs because you have no money or gear for your PMC.

This trash game has been in beta since 9 fucking years. Shill harder nobody is convinced.

>>724211829
Performance has marginally improved on larger maps but nuCustoms skill runs worse than old customs. Also they completely ruined the map flow by adding too many interiors, customs went from the best PvP map to being like streets or woods where you just get one tapped by a guy holding a weird angle.
The dorms side is still mostly fine but the construction site between old gas and crackhouse is basically no mans land.

>>724230234
>Colored loot
You didn't beat the game!

>>724218326
Niggita better give us steam keys desu.

>>724230695
He already said he won't, you need to buy the cheapest edition again if you want to play it through Steam.

>>724220286
Tarkov's armour pen isn't realistic at all, the altyn should be reliably penned by every rifle in the game even with dogshit ammo.
Also they had realistic plate hitboxes for like three months then reverted it when everyone sperged out.

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>>724230793
I don't get what reason people had for sperging out about plate hitboxes other than 'streamer mad timmies and scavs can kill him instead of farming them for content'. It was so nice for every gun to have a baseline of usability, I had so much fun running stock MP5s and M870s and not feeling like I was using wet noodles against Voltrons

>>724201903
I'll get it if there's single player.

i remember the night that made me quit
>customs raid night
>helping friend of friend do setup
>plan is camp boat for dorms poopsockers 3 man setup
>assume positions wait 15 minutes
>dorms activity occurs
>suddently grenade lands on friend 1, dies
>grenade lands on me, die
>grenade lands on timmy
>move on to shoreline to help with pk quest
>fight on pier
>shit on 2/3
>third toggles, one taps my 2 friends trough windows at night
>tries for a solid 30 seconds to shoot me trough a concrete block
>try and pop some shots while he's reloading
>6 instant shots to the helmet
yeah, cheating has been dogshit for years, may try 1.0 tho

>>724230234
Yeah I was looking at that one but I wanna beat it completely vanilla first before I start slapping mods in

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>>724230428
anon I got kappa + prestige this wipe in supposedly what was the worst wipe for cheaters and in like 800 raids I ran into maybe two handfuls of obvious cheating changs
>>724230965
there's a PvE mode but the AI is pretty limited from what I've seen (haven't touched it at all myself). still probably worth a grab if you really don't care for fighting players though

>>724230618
Cheating would be the one that adds its base dollar value to the item so you can see what's worth a ton of money at a glance
I haven't seen a lot of outright cheat mods but then again half of them are in chinese so there's prob a lot I'm not seeing

>>724231126
>lying this hard
I know you that you are a nigger. This game is riddled with cheaters.

Post your PMC with 466 hours and prestige including Kappa.

>>724231126
you can't really spot esp cheaters on tarkov, you just get sniped randomly, no killcam to check

>>724230965
There is but it's ass, and a separate paid DLC, you're best betting the cheapest edition and using the SPT mod which lets you tweak the NPC AI so it isn't completely braindead.

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>>724231295
>I know that you are a -ACK!
>>724231331
This is absolutely true, and of course there could be people soft cheating on older accounts that I might pass off as legit, but from my experience when it comes to suspicious cases it's like 90% rage cheaters to 10% 'even though this guy's account looks legit him checking this angle first is INCREDIBLY unlikely'

>>724201903
>too unforgiving for average PvE players
>too slow/realistic for average PvP players

I don't see myself ever playing PvP again. But, the PVE was fun.

just feels annoying sneaking slowly through an area only to get headshot jumpscared

>>724231926
>>I know that you are a -ACK!
where is your proof little faggot

>shuffle the quest order for each person complete with semi-random rewards
>replace the flea with traders adding stock they've bought from other players to their offerings
>distinguish insurance between hope for material returns vs immediate cashout
>add flinching when shot and closely supressed

>>724233449
>where is your proof
are you illiterate?

>>724201903
>game runs like shit
>riddled with hackers
>community of sado-masochists that actively beg for the game to be worse and less fun
>devs constantly make the weirdest choices and add mechanics that actively screw up anything that makes the game fun because it's the head dev's "vision" to make the most painful experience possible
>any time you bring up an issue, people in the community turn it into an e-peen measuring contest about how it's totally not a case of terrible design, you're just bad
>game is filled with mobile game style time gating that prevents you from actually progressing for no discernible reason
>character progression is tied to slow as fuck stat grinds that make you either go out of your way to stupid shit like running around with a bag full of hard drives for countless matches, or be stuck with slow as fuck stat progression that leaves you at an objective disadvantage to everyone else
>enemy AI is still completely fucked and will randomly beam you from across the map with a broken mosin right between the eyes
>easiest way to progress with money/gear is to buy the glued on deathmatch mode DLC and grind the shit out of that instead of actually playing the main game
>quests are hot garbage and all either mildly annoying or a gigantic pain in the ass
>devs actively screw over their most dedicated players, demanding people that paid for the most expensive version of the game pay another $100 for offline co-op and team death match
More like escape from Stockholm.

What PostFX should I use to enhance visibility on a 1080p monitor? I struggle to see shit past pissing distance.

>>724233939
are you?
post the proof you 7k subhuman waste

>>724202281
>the 100 people wiggling in the vid were just p-paid actors, fag!!!

>>724202281
This guy tried to pivot to yapcore too quick, his career plan should've been to continue making Tarkov/Gaming and progressively make yapping or political videos.

>>724236407
>the 100 people wiggling in the vid
It was like ten clips and he apologized to someone for one of them being a false accusation.

>>724221990
>that meme
While here in EUW i have to wait 3 days for ARC to even unlock.
The best decision i have ever made - not to play any of the online games. Fuck online, fuck multiplayer. As the saying goes - hell is other people.

>>724218557
>start with higher trader rep which means you get access to better gear faster, have more choice in what quests you have to do to progress
>start with more resources/kits/room to store stuff, containers, in the case of Unheard Ed. some more of your hideout built like Cultist Circle
>because of this you are at a marked advantage being able to have less restrictions in what you can pick up/what you need, you also need 40m+ less rubles (may be more/less, trying to think of the 8.5m? rubles and 30k Euros and other shit is equivalent to for Stash 3/4) and can funnel that into other things that improve your in-raid performance
>Unheard ed. also gets bigger pockets allowing you to stash mags/other 1x2s in said pockets, on top of just having more space innately (in-raid benefit, and yes you can get these as non-Unheard but it's a good deal further into the game and locked behind a fairly lengthy questline with a lot of hoops, such as killing bosses with other boss equipment, turning in boss equipment, and a number of monetary costs)
>EOD and Unheard get special questlines with rewards and the exp that comes with them that "lesser" packs don't get
>EOD and Unheard Edition get the MASSIVE benefit of a 3x3 secure container off the rip, a direct benefit to in-raid

>>724230234
SPT VR is very cool

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It's kinda amazing that every single update to Tarkov has made it worse.
I miss going into raids with just a hatchet and actually managing to kill people with it.

>>724237127
It's the same for everyone, those numbers are from the free server test.

Torrent link for Tarkov?

qrd on hunt showdown while I wait for full release?

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>>724201903
game would be a lot better if it wasn't blatant pay 2 win and filled with cheaters. I think I get a month or 2 of fun out of wipes before I give up.
>tfw no arena and standard so I'm stash 1 scavving for the most horrendous dogshit with no space

>>724241294
Wait for 1.0 to release and for SPT to update first.

Shit game
Play arc raider instead

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>>724241661
>TPS with random stat bonuses on gear like it's fucking Diablo
>Able to carry like twenty shields in with you and swap them out without cooldown
>No ironsights even on the sniper rifle

>>724233002
headshot jumpscared by a person whos been tracking you via ESP for the last 5 minutes making your carefulness pointless too

>>724241782
Idk about the rest but the blue sniper have a scope

>>724201903
Dog ass game. It’s simply not fun. I do not play games to simulate real life.

>>724201903
I bought this game in 2021 but never actually played it until this year, about a month ago. I really really enjoyed it. Can't wait for 1.0