I see why this game is so famous
>>724206561These are serious allegations. Vtmb sisters your response?!
>>724206939you know your "sisters" are male, right?
And of course the sequel had to reference it in the most cringe way possible
>>724206939Illegal part of a pawnshop in Santa Monica. its set dressing, and adds to the feeling of being an outcast.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A3VGCBwH6bY
>>724207562record corrected
>>724209263you understand how bad VTMB2 is when you see things like this.
>>724207562>The tranny is a JewBased or cringe?
>>724209936>done for the sake of unironic diversity instead of to mock the jewsi dunno, what the fuck do you think, brain-dead faggot cum-drooling retard?
>>724209936How did they manage to make vampires and ghouls both so fucking lame? When people play Vampire they expect an underground world of handsome and sexy vampire dudes and chicks, or monstrous mutants. This game is full of middle-aged grocery store people.
>>724210115In this case it really fucks the setting up beyond repair, seduction is supposed to be a key tool for a lot of vampires
>>724210115>if you're a vampire, you're a queer - unironically said by an in-game vampirebasically, they made VTM:B gay
>>724210115>How did they manage to make vampires and ghouls both so fucking lame? When people play Vampire they expect an underground world of handsome and sexy vampire dudes and chicks, or monstrous mutants. This game is full of middle-aged grocery store people.You fucking nerd poser to this setting. Vampires are all different and are not Toreadors. They have their own machinations in siredom stemming from their efforts in life and their actions. Also, vampires look as they did when they died or as they did in their time, and there is no change to that. If you die a granny, that's how you turn out.>basically, they made VTM:B gayVampires no longer feel sexual, and they move by what they can get from people, even if that means seducing some faggot into an alleyway to feed on him. They don't operate in the same way or sexually like humans do. The Eldar/Phyre makes that known to Safia when you learn of her secret and accuses what she has as a substitute for the beast.
>>724210702see >>724210259 shill
>>724209828>bloodsucking is gaywhat a retarded thing to write, do they not understand even basic things like why did the modernized vampire setting even become popular?any vampire dude if he wasn't a faggot prior would prefer feeding on females other than dudes, same as women on men i'd imagine
>>724210884See the second comment >>724210702 faggot nerd posing loser
>>724210702We already know you're retarded. You don't need to keep proving it with every single post you make.
>>724210917better hope you don't need to feed on a male even once in a few hundred years because if you do you're a faggot forever
>>724210917>what a retarded thing to writeAnn Rice would like a word.>>724210702>Vampires no longer feel sexualAchchually, according to the tabletop, they can still feel things like love and sexual arousal/attraction if their humanity is sufficiently high. Once you drop to like 6, though, yeah - they only thing you care about is drinking blood and amassing power.
>>724210931>dude see second commenttry reading this one >>724210884 again.you seem to be a bit retarded and unable to comprehend things.
>>724211231>Ann Ricethat's the biggest flaw in her books the way i see it, there's so much bussyfucking it becomes to chore to read if you're not a faggot or a middle aged woman, especially the one about armand it's like 90% about him having a dick up his ass
>>724206561If VTMB1 released today it would have been lambasted for being politically charged leftist propaganda. Like the same kind of rad lib progressive devs gets for making commentary about Donald Trump. VTMB1 fags posted these memes back in 2021. At least they regurgitated it from reddit. https://arch.b4k.dev/v/thread/568958301/#568958301https://arch.b4k.dev/v/thread/582877189https://arch.b4k.dev/v/search/image/c8Hfp6wzQm8CdNAQtV8CgA/You just don't have any distinction for this crap and for someone reason taking jabs at George Bush was okay and socially acceptable, but for Donald Trump it's not okay. 'See you're just ruining my escapism now! it's totally different!'A lot of people would never think of this in the context of someone who voted republican might have viewed what VTMB was saying back then as something as alienating.
America is finished
>>724211879>our game has communistsdamsel was a joke about communists. she said communism fails for humans. >image starts being posted soon after hardsuit labs was fired from 2totally not a coincidence
>>724213559If VTMB1 released today it would be trashed as SJW propaganda.
>>724213724yeah you have retards who would say it's sjw propaganda and you also have other retards saying the game is too offensive and it's racist and sexist and ableistwho cares what retards think
>>724213771>i voted republican one time>wow that's crazy that means you can kill the head of the local russian mafia for melol
>>724213870I'm right because it took constant political jabs at conservatives. VTMB1 was woke. It's a given that VTMB2 was going to be the same.
>If VTMB1 released today it would have been lambasted for being politically charged leftist propagandalolno
>>724213771It was proto woke reddit trash but coomers forgive it because it has boobs
>>724214036and it took political jabs at communists too
>HA HA ISN'T IT SO FUNNY THAT VTMB2 IS WOKE NOW?!!??!>What ever happened to the good old days?
>>724214158t. boris
>>724207562there's no fucking way
>>724207562>same line from nuGoWyou'd think all these modern games are written by the same guy
>>724211879It also has hot girls who show skin which the woke sequel lacks
>>724211879yeah that's not why I am mad I am mad that the gameplay is shit
>>724214116post an example then
>>724206561this is a reference to contraceptives (birth control) being controversial in the 2000s U.S. It's funny to see braindead zoomers interpreting it as tr00nery.
>>724210115Self inserts. Modern millenial devs are a bunch of narcissistic self insert losers.
>>724206561Why?
>>724215123>woke sequelBloodlines were woke compared to Redemption.
>>724215265no because they were legal still and wouldn't need to be sold to a black market trader the estrogen pill is exactly what people think it is, trannies taking it before the treatment was legal
>>724206561>mogs VTMB2Kneel
>>724210917>Not getting that he was making a jokeQueer can also mean strange and these people lived during a time it was commonly used as such
>>724215236>Communism would actually work for Kindred, where it fails with humans.this is a direct quote from damsel. she is saying communism fails. she is being portrayed as a naive college student. one of the other anarchs talks about her with a bit of disdain.
>>724214158But the key difference here is that the chicks were hot and showing lots of skin. That is literally all. You can have a game full of nigger trannies and the whole alphabet soup but if the chicks are hot and the writing is edgy, all is forgiven.
>>724215298Hot girls = not woke
>>724215305>trannies taking it before the treatment was legaltrannies didn't exist before 2014 you dumb cunt
>>724215503if you think this is anything but a joke about communism and the people endorsing it you're a midwit
>>724214036>>724211879Fuck off leftoid
>>724215503>one of the other anarchs talks about her with a bit of disdain.wow imagine the cope. The game was a literal Bolshevik cringefest. Starting from the very beginning you are supposed to sympathize with Anarchs. Strauss barely does anything in the game. It might be just a Troika Games thing. You might want to revisit the Half-Orc "labor movement" thingy in Arcanum as well. Although Arcanum is more infamous for re-using Nazi posters. But I think they were trying to drive a leftist agenda in a steampunk fantasy RPG.
>>724215204The whole point of this thread is based on the misinterpretation that VTMB1 wasn't made by preachy liberals, when it in fact was.
>>724215598>if you think this is anything but a jokemaybe the entire woke thing in the games that existed for over a decade now is also a joke? Wow, imagine taking games seriously.
>>724213771Tranny freaks grabbing at straws.When VTMB released republicans were warmongers killing millions of arabs in the middle east. Democrats were like republicans are today.All anti-republican sentiment from that era is anti-war sentiment.
>>724215752this
>>724215704>blatantly show conservative bashing>you're a leftistYou're just not offended by it because you probably voted democrat back then.
>>724215809Stop falseflagging, nigger
>>724215759midwit
>>724215820You can't refute what's in that image. You're just apologetic towards it because you happen to like the game. The same thing happens all the time whenever it comes to Fallout New Vegas too. People's nostalgia gets in the way of assessing the writing.
>>724214036The conservatives of the 1990's and 2000's were fucking gay and constantly went after vidya because of violence just like how the liberals of the 2010's and the 2020's were fucking gay and constantly went after vidya because of mysogany. The only constant is that everyone is fucking gay and constantly going after vidya. It's the right wings turn to go after vidya for the next 20 years, I guess.Buckle up, faggot.
>>724215775>All anti-republican sentiment from that era is anti-war sentiment.cope harder, chuddie. Your favorite childhood game is a tr00nfest.>>724215532Showing skin back then was an anti-establishment thing. Boomers weren't completely in power yet and the Silent Generation with its puritan nonsense was vehemently anti-sex in video games. Putting hot girls back then was the equivalent of not putting them today. I know, it's hard to believe when in fact that was true. Anything even remotely "sexy" in video games made elderly politicians seethe with rage. Democrats and Republicans alike wanted to censor shit.
>>724216030That's a lot of words to say that shoving your political ideology into video games is okay. Vampire the Masquerade Bloodlines by Troika was woke. Vampire the Masquerade Bloodlines 2 by The Chinese Room is also woke, whilst being also trash.
>>724216330>That's a lot of words to say that shoving your political ideology into video games is okay.It was an observation, not an endorsement.
>>724215775>When VTMB released republicans were warmongers killing millions of arabs in the middle eastpeople who say this shit nowadays are trying to justify themselves flipping from voting for Obama to Trump. They are the real fucking problem with the US.>boo hoo muh brown people get bombedstfu nigger. Some of the best vidya of the era was made about those wars and it's all gone now because>muh warmongeringpussy ass bitch
what is the purpose of this shitposting campaign
>>724216451I don't need to hear your excuses about muh Jack Thompson, which is the most artificial talking point. It was practically almost one big marketing stunt for Rockstar Games in which celebrities hopped the bandwagon on. Nobody ever believed in anything in regards to opposition on censorship. You were never more morally correct to have been liberal during that time because of one lawyers battle with that company. I'm so tired of hearing that crap because even I know that was just something of one of rockstar's many court cases they took on, but got blown up due to politics. Vice City had a whole controversy with Haitians but nobody ever gave a fuck about what happened there.
>>724216736>bored people who just shitpost about current thing>people trying to poison the community to make 2 seem betterthat's about it i guess. some people have realized that the whole "vtmb1 was garbage" shit after 2 was announced doesn't seem organic.
>>724216736I guess it's still a new release so any extra sale matters.I remember there was some kind of open shilling campaign for 2 earlier in the year, with someone claiming to be a former employee but definitely not the lead writer.Then it became traditional>Having a blast with this news! Lets keep it positive folx!Type shilling.Then it became>Huh I guess VTMB2 is a bit lacklustre, but I just replayed VTMB1 and it turns out it was even worse! I guess we should give it a chance???The later stages of this shilling make sense: crowd out criticism, spread positive associations, diminish the original to avoid unfavorable comparisons.But there was some very odd quasi-shilling early on. Frankly, the more conventional later shill techniques turned me off the game so maybe the early posting, that seemed suspiciously like Pinchbeck himself, was a new kind of "honest shilling" people will be trying out in future.
>>724216939Rik's compositions carried the atmosphere HARD
>>724216828What does that have to do with anything I wrote?
>>724216939>the whole "vtmb1 was garbage" shit after 2 was announced doesn't seem organic.I don't see why it would ever seem organic to anyone when the entire reason why VTMB2 was made is because of the lasting impact VTMB1 had.
>>724217014that's a lot of straw man bullshit bro
Hate the first game, but PLEASE buy and love the sequel.
>>724216939>"vtmb1 was garbage" shit after 2 was announced doesn't seem organic.yeah because VTMB was garbage. It only got a chance because of Redemption's success. The reason Redemption is so poorly remembered is because most VTMB fans weren't old enough to play it yet and the ESRB bullshit was still a big barrier to getting good vidya.
It's moments and threads like these that make me love being a Thief fan.
>>724217414That's next on the raping list don't worry anon
>>724217414based
>>724214448they are. he works for the state dept.
>>724217359kill yourself
>>724217445It already was, zoom zoom. Forgot about Th4f and the VR?
>>724206561Yes, the same way MGS series is popular. Men cupping balls, wrestling and smooching each other while making zesty comments and dialogues. Vamp, Raiden, Volgin, Ocelot, Dr Strangelove, Dolph, Kaz...
>>724217195>what does that have to do with anything I wrote?>conservatives that went after vidya in the 2000sOh yeah continue playing dumb and find excuses for why liberals shoving their propaganda in video games in the early 2000s was ever acceptable. It really just boils down to you defending nostalgia rather than having any respectable position on anything that is in opposition to activists who interfere with escapism in the virtual entertainment medium.
>>724217470NO U
>>724217492that was 11 years ago, it's coming
>>724211879he thinks we're republical lol
>>724217545Everything Troika Games made was mega woke at the time. Remember Arcanum? Yeah the plot revolves around Bill Gates stealing tech from some midget race that lives underground. I know it's just a metaphor for it but it's clear as day what they wanted to say. Oh and on top of that, you're supposed to sympathize with the half-orcs staging factory riots. Anyone who says that they were making fun of the commie Anarchs is just coping.
>>724217946you mean the game with the (((gnomes))) forcing human women to be bred by ogres?
So, is vtmb2 trash?What are my options for a game about vampires
>>724217545I was just pointing out how both sides are fake and gay and boy are you proving me right. You're literally arguing with a straw-man right now, and not as a rhetorical device---but out of sheer stupidity and eagerness to argue your position, which I don't even disagree with
>>724217946>Anyone who says that they were making fun of the commie Anarchs is just coping.damsel literally says communism fails for humans.
>>724218008>you mean the game with the (((gnomes))) forcing human women to be bred by ogres?yeah the central idea is that it's non-consensual sex. That gnomes are doing it with non-consenting human "w*men" is supposed to terrify us because they are objectified. Besides, it's not elven women so idc
>>724217445>>724217414Seriously though. It's been, what, TWO decades and what do Bloodlines fans have to show for community content? Clan mod with a half assed hub/midi DOOM covers and a patch that skips content? Thief fans have made two fully featured game-level releases alongside dozens of high quality maps and missions.
>>724218223>damsel literally says communism fails for humans.yeah take one part of ther sentence and cut the other. Nice tactic, bitch ass faggot. She is following that up by saying it will work for the Kindred. Reminds you of anything?
>>724207562>what dale put in his body is his own business>unless dale is an autistic kid whose teacher saw him pick up a doll one time
>>724218265on top of that. In Arcanum you are supposed to be a long awaited prophet but it turns out that you're not and the guy you're representing is just some old fart who tells you it's all not real. Literal reddit tier shit.
>>724218309>communism will work for magical predators that need to drink blood to survive and are cursed by godyeah stellar endorsement there, pseud
>>724218281Trans rights are far for important to the VTMB community than original content anon.
>>724218526no, she's literally saying "it will work this time"
Why the fuck is the shill trying to argue Damsel is an example of Troika being woke when Damsel was always a fucking retard?Her comment that communism would magically work for vampires, who are even more cutthroat and are literal parasites that don't do real labour, is a joke about how fucking delusional she is.Jack vicariously explains the dynamic when he points out Nines' class-struggle ideology is perhaps simply because he grew up during the Great Depression and his brain is therefore "wired to that shit". Then Skelter joins the pieces together pointing out how Damsel is basically a 70's hippie screaming at ex-conscripts returning from the Vietnam war.>>724218281VTMB is good because of writing and 'atmosphere'. This is hard to replicate for fans/retards, particularly when voice acting is required.Thief is good for many reasons, but a major one is gameplay mechanics and level design. This lends it well to fan-made levels to continue the experience.
>>724218624>is a joke about how fucking delusional she is.did Leonard Boyarsky tell you this in person or is it some gay ass cope you just made up?
>>724218146Anyone?
>>724218624>VTMB is good because of writing and 'atmosphere'nigger it is garbage compared to VTMR. VTMB doesn't even have proper dialogues. You're just clicking lines. heh, makes me remember that takethey call it .... wait for it ....BLOODLINESlmao
>>724215384>Remember Me - Vampyr - BanishersI can't tell if these guys are getting better or not.
>>724207562I cant facepalm enough retarded devs
>>724207562Sure is. Until everyone else has to subsidize his medical needs.
>>724215384Is Vampyr worth a playthrough? I got it for free on the Epic Games Store
>>724218576after saying it will fail for humans. saying communism will fail for humans and work for vampires is not a stance someone who supports communism for humans would take. even the other anarchs make fun of her.
>>724218729actually you don't click lines in vtmb you have to use number keys on the keyboard
>>724218948>even the other anarchs make fun of heryeah except they are anarchs. You know. The commies of the WOD universe. And you're supposed to sympathize with them. This is made clear in the opening cutscene and made clear again when you're saving Nines' ass.
>>724206561
>>724211879>>724213771No it wouldn't you tranny.Yes the devs were obvious lefties but the game had grit and sexy vampires with huge boobs. You can even have a woman as a pet that cleans your house.What you don't understand troon is that nobody would be complaining nowadays if game devs had kept doing funny jokes about right wingers, put big tits everywhere and had legitimate passion for their games. Instead we got... What the woke era is actually about.So yes actually male gaze = not woke you retard.
>>724219009you can also call them retards and have a good ending with another member of the camarilla. or you can tell them all to fuck off. the anarchs are also portrayed negatively with isaac in hollywood who is an anarch basically being a neglectful father with two dysfunctional children. the anarchs are shown being naive with jack who isn't as great as they think.yeah lacroix was about to lop off your head and nines prevented that and they tried to give you a bit of guidance but they're not put up on a pedestal.
>>724218994>actually you don't click lines in vtmb you have to use number keys on the keyboardyeah actually having some voiceover for the main character would've helped. Even the half-assed Boiling Point devs managed to pack it in somehow. The very dialogue design in VTMB makes voiceover impossible. Also, considering how much you're supposed to "talk" there makes me wonder if VTMB fanboys are even self-aware when they compare it to games like Deus Ex. And speaking of Deus Ex at least JC Denton isn't mute and he has some backstory, but VTMB is literally self-insertion.
>>724218146In the end, the prince is dominated by her former sire in front of the sheriff (you) in the elysium, and your only two options are to comply or defect to the anarchs.
VTM was never good
>>724219209Redemption was good
>>724219096>Yes the devs were obvious lefties but the game had grit and sexy vampires with huge boobsmeans you care about the game as much as the SJW cunts who butcher it
>>724219096>So yes actually male gaze = not woke you retard.kek this makes me remember there was a console command to increase the bubbling breasts size
>>724219096Delusion the post
>>724207562Chat is this real?
>>724207562I think this is one of the most spiteful and pathetic things I have ever seen added to a videogameYou can feel the butthurt of the person who decided to add that line to the game
>>724219282>>724219375Nice counter arguments trannies.
>>724217837But Anon, Cheeto Hitler won, so now we can all go back to sleep. Right?
Has this "actually, the original was super woke too!" shill tactic ever worked out? I mean it, I wanna know what the endgame is. "Oh yes you're right, I'm now going to buy three copies of VtMB2" ?
WELCOME TO TSENG'S HERBAL REMEDIES
>>724219740no and it wouldn't surprise me if they know it doesn't convince anyone but then people spend time defending the original instead of attacking the shitty sequel so at least there's less criticism of it
>>724219759GOD BLESS THE ALLEGIANCE FLAG
>>724219740>the original was super woke tooBecause it is. Sorry but anything WoD related was always a part of the counterculture. On top of also being a way for nerds and uwu good christian kids to rp as shitheads, goth posers and whores
>>724219740What's far more baffling to me is the "Bloodlines 1 was ALWAYS SHIIIIT" argument, which somehow they think will convince people to buy their new game.>Oh, I didn't know the game I replayed yearly was a big pile of shit. Thank you for telling me.>I will now buy your game that has no inventory, skills, RPG mechanics, no real sidequests, retarded gameplay because you told me the previous game was absolute shit
>>724207562They just couldn't help themselves.
>>724219925Nobody cares, retard. We're still going to make fun of trannies and pajeets. Now fuck off.
>>724216082Hot girls = not woke
>>724219427it is rael
>>724218146Night Road has been consistently hailed as an excellent VTM video game, and possibly the only good VTM video game ever made after Bloodlines.It's a VN though.Then there are trashfire like Swansong and other shit, which are mocked relentlessly.
>>724220151>Nobody caresClearly you do, now go drink yourself to death, white trash
>>724211879The game was literally making fun of cummunists lmfao, god you comiggers are retarded
>>724219740no, my endgame is that you play Redemption instead
>>724220328>immediately exposes himself as a touristEvery time lmao.
>>724206561>this was comedically absurd in the early 2000s
>>724220465>Still cryinggI guess your bloated ego can't handle all of this
Hey.I saw this free VTM game on stream.Looks like its aping Disco Elysium.I don't have high expectations after seeing the reviews, but has anybody here played it?Could you give a personal account?
>>724220538Sure.This free VTM game on stream is free, and a VTM game. I wager it's about vampires, somehow. If it's free you won't even need to spend money to get it: neat! If it's aping Disco Elysium I guess there are dialogues too? Sound cool.
>>724220629Thank you anon.I appreciate you.
>>724220538>I saw this free VTM game on stream.This one? It's apparently in full game production now.
>>724220328>drink yourself to deathHe's probably not a featherhead tho
>>724218930Yeah, it's pretty good. Unless you're playing as a pacifist, in which case you'll get barely any xp.
>>724211879This is true but the issue is that politics today is unbearably onions either way.
>>724215305do zoomers evenin mid 2000s the closest any of us were to any transsexuals were vaguely confused jokes about ladyboys in those thirdworld countries we never visited
>>724220676Huh.Looking at the news tab, apparently it was made for a game jam.They intend to flesh it out into a full game with lullaby serving as a prologue.My download just finished, so I'll give the game a go and report back.
>>724218146Most of the ill-will is because people who liked the first bloodlines just wanted more bloodlines, and this game was never going to be that, even before it got dragged through development hell. IStory feels schizophrenic and I still have no real idea what the fuck is going on, but Im having fun with it. Combat is messy but its considerably better if you play it like a stealth game and consider each encounter a puzzle to solve rather than a straight up fight. Boss fights are a clusterfuck but they're not bad, use your elixirs, they load you up when you're on the way to one. Its not the sequel anyone would have wanted, but in a vaccuum its FINE, albeit not worth 60 bucks, thats for damn sure. Give it a pirate.
>>724221040Okay so we ignore drag queen parades now?
>>724221073Drag queens arent trannies, theyre basically gay sex-clowns.
>>724211879In 2000, you were against war in the middle east, and for peace. We supported you.In 2025 you are for racial genocides and cutting the penis of small children as young as 12 and chemical castration followed by real castration and black people bombing and burning entire cities into the ground. We do not support you.It's amazing how much you descended into sheer insanity and how much you try to convince people, who where there, that you were always this insane. You weren't. There was actually a sweet time when you weren't insane.
>>724221040this. The only "trannies" there were out there were drag queens and a few mentally ill activists or crossdressers. It was so niche nobody even thought this bullshit would go so mainstream just in a few decades.
>>724207562Estrogen pills are made from a chemical waste product (lithium, was it? It doesnt matter) and its a billion dollar business. A waste product is worth billions. There will always be more of it. So that is the main reason for all this transexual crap. Also being a transexual is basically a life sentence to paying medical bills until you die. Another billion dollar industry. Follow the money, always.
>>724221202>In 2025 you are for racial genocides and cutting the penis of small children as young as 12 and chemical castration followed by real castration and black people bombing and burning entire cities into the ground.this is nonsense. Democrats were always in support of this. They were championing gay rights during Reagan years and they turned a blind eye on mass riots that burned entire neighbourhoods since the 1990s. You may have forgotten it but there were black riots in 2009 and 2010, it's just that the media never reported it. As for castration, boomers were gaslighting their kids into supporting this shit since 1960s. It's just that it took a new form with the whole tranny phenomenon. The reality is, the 2000s woke can't stand the 2020s woke because they went "too far". In reality they are all the same bunch of weak faggots who cry about dead browns while openly shilling for the commies. Unironically fuck you. Because of cunts like you Vietnam was lost to the commies and Afghanistan was lost to the Taliban. Since the boomers till now you are all of the same cloth.
>>724221421>Vietnam was lost to the commies and Afghanistan was lost to the Taliban>Unironically defending Vietnam and afghanistan because muh commiesYou have brain-damage. Americans don't deserve to die in some faggot proxy war where the miltary complex comes out on top.Legit go kill yourself. In fact why don't you volunteer to die in ukraine like a good golem you are?
>>724221319following the money is always a good idea, corporations create markets wherever they can, whether it's selling toilet paper or razor blades. nobody's going to advertise to you using linux or a safety razor because there's no money in that.
>>724221073the only tranny that existed back then was Chris Konda. Crossdressing was so rare it was anecdotal at best and the drag queens were a part time hobby. Visibly normal men would dress in drag and sing songs at drag queen venues on weekends but otherwise they would live normal lives, some even had families and kids. This whole HRT bullshit started only in 2010s. It may have happened occasionally before but it was most definitely against the mainstream.
>>724210917>same as women on men>Doesn't know Carmilla>Doesn't know the lesbian vampire trope
>>724210115Imagine if you were born severely dysgenic, both physically and mentally fucked up. And at some point you develop severe narcissistic tendencies. Ultimately you know there is something wrong with you and that there always will be but you cannot admit that to yourself as you believe that you are perfect. So you say that it is the fault of society and try to bring everyone and everything down to your level. Beauty is bad and oppressive, and anything that represents or shows it is problematic. That is the mindset which these people are in, that is their day to day lives. They are what are known as spiteful mutants
>>724221817every nonwhite with enough IQ points to be self-aware is like this
>>724221586>Americans don't deserve to die in some faggot proxy warYeah, enjoy communism dipshit. Why fight and die in Vietnam when your own "elites" are commies, right? The French didn't fight back in 1940. They ended up being bombed and dying regardless.>Legit go kill yourself. In fact why don't you volunteer to die in ukraine like a good golem you are?Ah I see. Yeah, why do chinks and russian even need to fight you when they have helpless golemim like yourself giving up without one? Faggots like you is why the US is in decline. You sabotage your own country for the sake of "lives" that have no purpose, and then you complain about opiates and sissy zoomers. Maybe you should look at yourself and realize the problem is (You).
Vampires were always gay, for the most part>Lesbian shit like almost every vamp movie with female bloodsucka>Gayshit like Interview with the vampireSo you're left with Nosferatu-like plain horror monster or Dracula which is mostly aimed at women
>>724209936Lol that's a tranny in the game?
>>724219740>tactic>get exposed directly by a screenshot of political jabs from the developerJust admit you like woke games, proto-woke as another anon nicely put it because it absolutely describes what it is. It's the same cope I see with defenders of Obsidians writing and pretending Fallout New Vegas didn't have similarly shit writing like that.
>>724221942read any original WOD books and it's some gay leftist shit anyway
>>724221928>Faggots like you is why the US is in decline>NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO WHY YOU AREN'T FIGHTING IN SOME THIRD WORLD SHITHOLE FOR BIG COPRO AIEEEEEEEEEEE HELP MEEEEE THE WEST HAS FALLEN
>>724222023see the pic? that's boomers.you're the same.After the war in Vietnam was lost, millions of Vietnamese moved to the US. They will never leave now. Guess what happens to millions of shitlistinians. Your food is about to get spicier.
>>7242214212000's Democrat =/= 2000's liberal worldviewBut you already knew this.You're just acting like a shitter for those sweet (you)s.
>>724222145>2000's Democrat =/= 2000's liberal worldviewcope harder. The only reason Demonrats weren't a sissified was because they'd lose those sweet Depression era electorate that didn't buy all that commie bullshit. Those are gone now. And they just follow whatever boomers like, including trannies and sucking chink cock. That includes putting trannies into your vidya.
>>724211879So your argument is the new game should be garbage because the original was garbage?
>>724221319Diesel is a waste product from gasolinethere will always be a use for waste products
>>724219096>yes it was made by leftiesAnd they shoved their propaganda down your throat. So I'm glad we're in agreement that it was SJW trash. Thanks for just confirming it with one just one simple statement. I do not need to read the rest of the cope.
>>724210702Thanks uggo!
>>724221202I think this post indeed proves that Troika fans are deranged leftists.And I will point out that It's not uncommon by the way. All of these idiots in these threads just hope you don't ever go to VTMB community forums and modding communities. Because it's literally filled with these wack job leftists. Before even V5 came along they were always like this.
>>724223854>I think this post indeed proves that Troika fans are deranged leftists.Correct. Don't get me wrong though. I did enjoy VTMB and Arcanum, although not the TOEE. But it's just a plain fact that Troika's games were unplayable upon delivery. That VTMB requires an unofficial patch says everything you need to know about it. Oh and try playing an unpatched Arcanum even in a Windows XP VM. It's just bad. Their games did have a pretty well-developed universe and authentic atmosphere but that's pretty much it. It's the fans who are the problem though. They will vehemently defend 3/5 tier games out of nostalgia. It's just pathetic to watch.
>>724215775>When VTMB released republicans were warmongers killing millions of arabs in the middle east.Oh poor al-qaeda and poor peace loving Taliban, as if they're not practically attached at the hip. Imagine crying over terrorist sandniggers and pretending that they were innocent. How dare you insinuate that I'm a tranny and then whine about innocent rag heads you goddamn queer.
>>724207562I have tranny fatigue
>>724207562AN ANCIENT BEING WOULDN'T FUCKING CARE ABOUT THIS SHIT
>>724224460>That VTMB requires an unofficial patchMeh, I played VtMB multiple times without fan patches and still loved it. It's required now because the game is old and doesn't work on modern systems and fixing a lot of the bugs is obviously an improvement but even without fan patches the game was something special.
>>724211879>>724213771>>724214036MAKE GEHENNA GREAT AGAIN
>>724211879White Wolf has always had a "leftie" tint to it, the difference is they weren't complete and utter faggots about it. Although I'm not sure how they got away with the bloodsucking parasites being from the Middle East, infiltrating and running the banks and churches behind the scenes, even having a radical faction called the Chabad/Sabbath (that believe in a world ending "Gehenna"), and a "secular" faction that infiltrates governments in shady backroom deals, that refer to humans with an archaic word for cattle (kine:goy).Meanwhile, nature worshipping men that are blessed by an "allfather" and the metaphysical spirit of the Earth, are blessed with divine rage and gnosis, to become spiritual super soldiers and are the worst fear of the above bloodsucking parasites from the Middle East
A bunch of puppets and a giant dong is a good way to describe this game.
>>724211879if it came out today it would be called nazi for the op pic
>>724225018Is this post seriously supposed to refute those lines? I seriously want to know. because VTMB2 is trash and I'm not telling anyone to buy that garbage. You're conflating that with no one is allowed to criticise any aspect of the first game, even when it quite unapologetically took political jabs at conservatives and by any reasonable definition could be considered woke. You can't green text reminder yourself out of this one. You can't warn in advance your way out of this propaganda. If Paradox are sending shills here I'm sure they'd make me want to make their game look positive, but VTMB2's terrible writing is self evident, unlike where Troika fans of where they need to run layers of interference and misdirection like this. Apparently posting a screen grab sends you into a fucking meltdown.
>>724225679>even when it quite unapologetically took political jabs at conservatives and by any reasonable definition could be considered woke.and it made fun of communists. it made fun of retards in general. if you're upset over vtmb maybe you're a retard.
>>724207562Hmmmmmmmm, SLAYED!
>>724225795>and it made fun of communistsuhuh, what other cope can you tell me?
>>724225413Is that a trans
>>724225943you're a retard and this is why you're so butthurt
>>724211879>>724213771>>724214036webm related is what 00s vidya """""politics""""" was, not whatever multicult indoctrination bullshit you are desperate to excuse today. It was always funny/edgy humour that made fun of both sides.
>>724207562they repented for their sins in front of the cult of woke congregation
>>724207562A trans person wouldn't identify as male anyway, so they don't even understand the mentality of those they try to pander to.
>>724211879this is what you get for purity spiraling into the edge of the horseshoe >>724221202. Your soul mates, the magas, are not far behind you and eventually you will join into a singularity
>>724226776>It was always funny/edgy humour that made fun of both sidesNo it made fun of the conservatards most of the time. I am not picking any of the sides here but it's objectively true. Pick any piece of media and it was massively anti-right. The same thing was in video games. The leftist bias is self-evident where any bias can be detected. Any "satirical" content is a jab against the right. Nobody made fun of Democrats back then. Except when those Democrats turned 180 and joined Republicans in censoring video games. Even fence sitters had a leftist bias. All the biggest longest running leftist "pundits" on youtube you see today started before Obama and were exclusively mocking the right, even when they totally deserved it. Saying that VTMB doesn't have a leftist bias because back then leftism wasn't like today is insanity. It was exactly the same. It's just that the biggest voices weren't so vehement in their true beliefs because they didn't want to spook everyone.
>>724226984Utter dogshit. You can cherrypick a milquetoast Bush joke while handwaving everytime you can call a someone a whore or a retard, or any of the edgy histories for your character, but that doesn't make the game remotely "woke".
>>724226964Shut up communist faggot.
>>724227198>that doesn't make the game remotely "woke".just because boomers were better at concealing their message doesn't mean that the message has changed.
>>724207562Parody tier writing
>>724211213Yep.
>>724219242I liked it as well.
>>724227358is this not fake ? i thought it was fake? please tell me they were not retarded enough to put such a shit throwback in and insult nostalgia players?
This board is full of really miserable people
>>724224869Fabien isn't an ancient being, he's not even 200 yet.
>>724221047Finished.It was fairly short, but I took a break to have a meal.Its mediocre, quite rough actually.You swap between a female camerilla agent and an unwitting mortal bloke, they're both visiting a nightclub for different reason - but their paths intertwine.The RPG element is virtually a non-factor in this demo, but it at least does seem to exist. There's a character page with stats.The puzzles are functional, but not well executed or conveyed. There's a point where you need to look at a specific vent, and then go retrieve a screwdriver to open it. You need to look at the vent at a very specific time, if you inspect it too early the trigger isn't activated.There are a lot of interactions that go nowhere, you can bring an attendant a discarded poem a bouncer was writing about her, as well as a missing earring - but it doesn't do anything.The writing is serviceable, but its lacks the flair and character of Disco Elysium. It can also feel a touch clunky at places.Anyway, the full game will need to step things up dramatically because this was fairly uninspiring.
>>724222114>You can go to live in France, but you cannot become a Frenchman. You can go to live in Germany or Turkey or Japan, but you cannot become a German, a Turk, or a Japanese. But anyone, from any corner of the Earth, can come to live in America and become an American.
>>724225514That and big sexist vampire titties, insensitive portrayals of mental illness, racist chinese accents, and fat larry.
>>724221040anon they were just called transvestites back thenthey existed, much rarer and taken less seriously but existedthis is from 2006https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zb8fWh_iy-8
>>724215553https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Liddy_Bacroff
>>724209828Vampires are folklore Jews actually.
>>724209828queen means strange or odd, maybe they meant that
>>724207562this is fake right? it's a parody of the GoW line?? right???
>>724222710Why are you pretending to not be a tranny?I don't care if it was propaganda or not. Or whether 2000s leftism was "always woke, actually". Or whatever the fuck you are trying to argue here (seriously what is your end goal even?)It was a good fun game, tranny, that's what I want, GOOD VIDEO GAMES.
>>724210917I think if you lived long enough as a vampire you would become bisexual or asexual because of the nature of being immortal and wanting to try new things eventually unless you have some really strong conviction that can survive 500 years
>>724221067>Most of the ill-will is because people who liked the first bloodlines just wanted more bloodlinesI thought the ill will was derived from VTMB fans not wanting an unnecessary cashgrab follow-up to a product of its time.
>>724229139>You can go to live in France, but you cannot become a Frenchman. You can go to live in Germany or Turkey or Japan, but you cannot become a German, a Turk, or a JapaneseBut you can.
>>724229583>why are you pretending not to be a trannyWhy did you randomly just start sympathising with terrorist Arabs? it was a dead giveaway that you're a faggot activist retarded liberal, worshipping islamic savages is usually their thing. You have no idea how fucking gay you sounded.
>>724229804i don't mind a sequel, if it's good i'll buy it, if it's bad i won't. simple. the game got bad reviews so imma pass. maybe once they clean it up and added some dlc. doubt it though, there's so much good games to play and so little time.
>Nostalgiafags getting stompedGood, bully anyone with rose tinted glasses
>>724216736every time a new game or a remake comes out and it's shit, there's a swarm of "erm the original was also woke and bad!!!!" posts it never works, but it doesn't stop the shills
>>724214448>you'd think all these modern games are written by the same guy"What people put in their body is their own business" is the core concept of modern liberalism because it's inherently childish. It's infinitely easier to convince somebody to "try" something (and in the process, get hooked or accustomed to it, thus snaring a new convert) than tell them they shouldn't try something. It's why the fall of modern liberalism started with COVID, because the script suddenly shifted from, "your body, your choice" to "your body, our choice."
>>724230213The original was liberal. 2000s liberalism is completely different from the woke ideology of today.
>>724230552tell me you can kill that faggot
>>724207562trannies and semites are so fkn pathetic
>>724213771nice tranny coding but no leftoid social construction game today can release with hot women in it that isnt in some way groid or gay coded. so no. it cant release today.
>>724206561Troons didn't even exist when this game was made. It wasn't a political statement.
>>724231716Just keep saying tranny to make the leftist propaganda and Troika's terrible writing skills (or lack of to be more specific) go away, that will surely work.
>>724211879
>>724211879>>724213771Oh no, don't disparage the Republican party and Bush, we must circle the wagons, fellow right wingers.You fucking faggot.
>>724233142Whilst I have nothing positive to say about both Paradox or The Chinese Room, in fact I'd go as far to call their game a swindle. I do actually take solace in knowing that the fat oath Brian Mitsoda got his kicked to the curb. It's comeuppance for his contributions to the awful writing of the first game. And everyone is just admitting in this thread that's okay for games to be political and escapism doesn't matter if it reflected their views 21 odd years ago. It's woke and belongs in the garbage pile right next to Disco Elysium. The category of hack job activists who were more concerned with making political statements instead of good games.
>>724207562>from the Canadian faggot who brought you Mass Effect 2figures
retardo tankoids (and most leftoids) still live under the umbrella of master and slave dialectic. So when (for example) certain game presents at certain point, within or without, left talking point it must fall on the side of the pro-people. If however game presents many different talking points - these must just be the spark of illusions (or at worst machinations of enemy that is to say slaver against the enslaved). The idea that a medium can function as vehicle for many different talking points (both good and / or bad) of it's creators is, to retarded leftoid, simpy inconceivable. TRVE TAL'MAHE'RA CREW - MAKE GEHENNA GREAT AGAIN
>>724209936They put sam bankman-fried in this game?
>>724229506The person saying it is a gay nosferatu, he absolutely is saying that being a vampire is gay.
>>724234879Best post
>>724214158>>724214094>>724215752So woke!
>>724226882Make your own TV shows then
>>724229139Literally every mutt is born from immigrants unless they are full blooded natives, which you aren't
>>724235537>gay nosferatuyeah this never happened before
>>724232225>It wasn't a political statement.it was but not about tr00ns
>>724237057>Ugly asshole fascist is a misogynist Yeah it's woke as fuck
>>724237395wdym?
>>724221319No shit, if it wasn't profitable, it wouldn't be done.
>>724237552It's a reference to birth control
>>724233713>The category of hack job activists who were more concerned with making political statements instead of good gamesGood thing that Troika was more concerned with making a good game then.
>>724237812they aren't interested in profit but propaganda these days, otherwise games like concord and hyenas never would've been conceived in the first place
>>724238598>making a good gametoo bad it isn't
>>724235537TrueThe protagonist has no clue what the fuck he's talking about though, which is appropriate
>>724233713>oathretard
>>724207562transcoded game, will only pirate, and then mod (fix)
>>724222639You mean petroleum, which creates another waste product that’s now almost always on your body (and fucking with your hormones). Next time you’re at even a mid-tier clothing retailer, let’s say express - see how many 100% cotton options you find. In 2010 it was almost all of their catalogue.
>>724211879I can't believe that media is treated differently after decades of insufferable leftist propaganda. If you'd post a swastika or called someone nigger now people would be upset, oh gee I wonder if something happened to cause that.
>>724224939"Troika's games don't work without patches" have always been an exaggeration. Played ToEE without Temple+ or Circle of Eight; works just fine in Ironman mode, and experienced crashes only when alt-tabbing too much. Arcanum too, works fine without any mods. VtMB is a special case because of ridiculous publisher meddling, and even then it was exaggerated because only Nosferatu got the shit end of the stick, since nobody at Activision bothered to playtest the clan.
