What's wrong with these absolute assholes? They're trying to patent breathing and the worst thing is that these patents are being granted>Nintendo has secured a new patent that protects a common gameplay mechanic wherein an in-game character to summon another sub-character to support it in battle.This can apply to ANY game. What the hell?
>>724213238shouldn't of have poked the hornet's nest with your obvious ripoff
>>724213238>why is criminal front being shitty
US Patent and Trademark Office has been one of the targets of Trump administration's public sector trimming, and it seems like they only fired the competent employees.
>>724213619>poketroon can't readclassicit says right there it was submitted in march 2023 you sperg
>>724213619>Nintendo invented foxesThis is why pokeshitters need to be publicly tarred and feathered
>>724213238i wish nintendo patented gliders so literally every open world rpg made after botw didnt use them
>>724213856They actually did...
>>724213856they did, it's being processed, along with riding on animals. expect RDR3 to not have horses because Pokemon Violet invented riding animals.
NintendoCHADs won
>>724213238that doesnt make any senseits state of the art already
>>724213845>foxesit's literally eevee's facehow can you even try to deny this unless you suffer from prosopagnosia
>>724213238>This can apply to ANY game.so why wasn't it contested
>>724213238Based! It stops the industry from turning into a copycat competition and protect unique ideas.>Bu bu bu bu but-If any company finds this a problem, or if YOU find it a problem, just file a lawsuit against this patent; we'll see how long you can last in court.The Nintendo Century has just begun...
>>724214103>Nintendo invented faces.
Ultraseven did the Pokemon Gimmick in 1967. And did it better.
>>724214324Dude. Literally every fucking RPG on the face of this clown planet utilizes a mechanic exactly like this. WRPG, JRPG, action, Turn-based, strategic, MMOs, almost ALL of them employ a mechanic were the player can summon another character to aid them in gameplay.
>>724215760Hmmm maybe they just need to get more creative then!
Studios should just abandon Japan as a market.Since the corrupt as fuck government and incestuous legal system have decided to turn Nintendo into a quasi-public company like IG Farben under the Third Reich, the only winning move is not to play. Let the Japs wallow under their dogshit vidya taste.
>>724216250Jeet, RPGs have been using summon mechanics since the early 80s. Before the fucking Famicom. Nintenjew just patented a gameplay mechanic that's been around for forever. That's like producing a patent for moving within in a game space.
>>724216438>Let the Japs wallow under their dogshit vidya taste.We all know you'd love that Chang, but you purposely ignore that Japanese game developers/Japanese gamers never asked for this. That's like blaming Americans for Disney's copyright shenanigans. No rational person desires this.
>>724215760is this going to affect things like tag fighters too?
>>724213238Is it possible to submit a class action lawsuit against the USPTO? They aren't immune to getting sued, are they?
cant they just, you know, change the patent law in japan or something
>>724213238just wait for a non-japanese monster tamer gamehttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZKdlrzVO1H8pocketpair can't do anything when nintendo is like a religion to those childless jap mantoddlers>>724216582they didn't ask for this but they do support it by making the latest pokeslop the fastest selling in the countrysee who's actually killing the industry?
>>724216445Not to mention that the idea of summoning help predates video games by a long time. Wizards would call up spirits, familiars, demons, and all sorts of things in stories and legends to aid them in however they needed, including fighting. This is literally a core concept for fantasy and yet Nintendo pulls this crap
>>724216582They're free to stop buying their garbage. But they can't, because they're brand hounds, they see a recognizable IP and pounce regardless of quality.
>>724213619>shouldn't of Why do so many have you retards of a problem with that specific piece have grammar?
>>724213619Fpbp
>>724216826oh and dokev is also non-japanesehttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WtcQl41oFQIwith crimson desert finally having a release date, we might start seeing updates early next year>>724216914exactlyand he's wrong anyway, because nintards, especially the jap nintards, are hardcore brand bootlickers who immediately start complaining about "plagiarism" anytime they see ONE similarity between a nintard slop and a third party game
>>724216438Chink
>>724217023Greek.And through my job I've seen first hand what happens when one company gets preferential treatment from the state because of connections and corruption, then rapes the entire market by using the legal hammer which is disproportionately in their favor. I'm not a fan of the capitalist system anyway, but this distortion of the market fucks up everyone, customers and competition alike.
>>724216826>>724216914Why are we implying that the blame for all this solely rests on the Japanese consumer? Pokémon is financially successful globally; around the world. I obviously don't doubt that a shit ton of Niptards bought and loved Pokéshit, but so too did the other millions of tendies around the world. How retarded does one have to be in order to think like this? >>724216997>and he's wrong anyway, because nintards, especially the jap nintards, are hardcore brand bootlickers who immediately start complaining about "plagiarism" anytime they see ONE similarity between a nintard slop and a third party gameChigger, all tendies act like this. Aryan, yellow, shit colored; all of them suck Nintendo's Hebrew dick.
>>724217316>Greek.NTA but how is this an insult?Also->didn't deny itLol. Lmao.
>Nintendo invented
>>724217316>I'm not a fan of the capitalist system anywayHoly fuck you actually are Chinese. Kek, I was only kidding before.
>>724213619Where was this attitude towards Genshin Impact?
>>724214324>nobody but a single shovelware RPG being allowed to use a basic summoning concept is a good thingIt's a massive limitation across all genres, but you're obviously shitposting since there's no way you're this retarded of a drone so I dunno why I'm even replying lol.
>>724217605what did genshin rip off?
>>724213238It is ALWAYS moral to belt the fuck out of anyone you see wearing nintendo merch.
>>724217605Nintendo knows that if they sue a CCP owned company they're gonna be down a few executives.
>ITT so much crying.Fucking NDS...Maybe try new ideas for a change? "Summoning monsters to fight for you" is a Pokemon thing, you should try new ways to make a Monster Tamer game.It's not hard.
>>724217751The life support of tendies circa 2020
>>724217821Get better material nigger, your bait is obvious.
>shouldn't of
>>724213238Maybe if US patent law weren't so SHIT, it wouldn't bite them in the ass now.You reap what you sow.
Cry about it macaco
>>724217490You're the only one that brought up China out of nowhere. Maybe a little bit obsessed. American, I presume?
>Daily NDS thread.
>>724213238>This can apply to ANY game. What the hell?It can't. Read the full patent. They only patented the let's go mode in Scarlet and Violet. Basically the patent is for summon a creature that will engage in a player controlled battle with the target if you throw the creature at the target on sending it out, or will path around and autobattle otherwise and collect items for the player. It is very specific to Pokemon.
>>724216797yes, nintendo can, and has been doing so!
>>724218063Fucking based. Things can and should change.
>>724213856Nintendo must be tired of everyone ripping off their hardware and software constantly, for 40 fucking years straight.No wonder they're just done with this bullshit and suing everyone to fuck.
>>724213238https://youtu.be/xrGgOGTT6kkThis video explains it better.
Game mechanics shouldn't be patentable. Patent and copyright law is a disaster.
So Nintendo is just straight up evil, right?
>>724218535>Nintendo is just straight up evil
>>724218535Yea
>>724217605>There are people who didn't roll for Chasca
>>724218483You can't patent game mechanics. You can only patent software that does a very specific, novel function.
>>724218726I'm going to stop you right there Anon, you are in a bait thread, there's no point in telling them that because they already know. You're going to lose your time replying to these people.
>>724218628Piratefags going "NO, YOU CAN'T DO THAT REEEEEEEEEEEEE!!" was some of the most retarded shit I've ever seen.Like, bitch, you were literally putting up patreons to fund your piracy.
>>724218726>very specific, novel functionNobody believes that.Also, irrelevant. No software function should be patentable period. Code should be subject to copyright, but no functionality should be patentable.Imagine if Apple or IBM had patented the concept of spreadsheets. If you wanted to do spreadsheets you'd be forced to get an Apple II or IBM PC.
>>724218831*piratevegans (those who virtue signal their piracy)we used to call these people faggots back in the day btw
>>724218535Yeah.These faggots would probably patent jumping if they could get away with it.
At some point someone is going to have enough and pull a Kyoani on them
>>724218332The summon patent is pretty sketchy, esper summoning in FFXII IZJS seems to fit within those specifications.
>>724218869You realize copyright is more restrictive than patenting, right? A patent is a short term restriction on copying of an industrial process or device. That is EXACTLY what software does. Copyrights are or IP; they're for art. Code isn't art. As for your spreadsheet example, Apple nor IBM would have been able to patent a spreadsheet because spreadsheets have existed for thousands of years. They COULD patent a software implementation of it, but there are so many ways to code a spreadsheet it wouldn't really top competitors from making their own. At best maybe they could patent a storage or compression algorithm to make their spreadsheet more efficient for 20 years , but even that would be pointless because tech was advancing so fast back in the 70s and 80s that anything the invented was out of date the next year. There would be no reason to preserve it for 20.
>>724218535Evil but not literal mass child rape and murder factory tier evil that Microsoft, Activision, Ubisoft, EA or Sony are at the moment,
>>724218961I prefer the voiced version.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9uhYm8nLdb0
>>724219438>14 years agosame as it ever was (except the faggot now has darker skin and speaks broken English)
who cares honestlywhite and jap cucks are getting replaced by jeets and nigsi'm glad these childless faggot goyim are keeping themselves busy with nintard babyslop garbage and shilling some company 24/7
fix your fonts you nigger
I unironically want Nintendo to destroy the gaming industry. Our politicians are stealing everything that isn’t nailed down to the floor so now is there best chance to enact the most anti consumer corporate practices known to man
>>724219592We get it Anon, you're brown.
my fonts are fine you double nigger
>>724215760How do you people not realise that it's not about being similar?
Why should Nintendo be allowed to release Pokopia?
>>724213238And the useless, mind numbing, flamewar tier, whining about Nintendo just does not stop. Can we get a auto IP Ban on anybody posting from Brazil please? These jackasses put more effort into making sure Nintendo stay relevant than they did making sure Sony had support.
>>724213768That's not how it work. They don't care what they give patent for, it's not their job to check if your are the first. Now, application of said patent is another case, any court will tell Nintendo to fuck off (and eat court expenses) precisely because what they patented was common mechanic. >>724213856>be Nintendo>copy Just Cause>NINTENDO INVENTED GLIDERS!!11!sad
>>724218171>>724213856>>724220726Unless these games predates OoT what argument do you have? Also, retard, a wingsuit is not a hand glider
Plagiarism is only okay when Nintendo does it, because when they do it it's a "tribute".Know the difference!
>>724221395Glider is human invention to traverse air and yes, it predate OoT.
>>724221778What type of glider?
>>724221865The one that you hold with your hands
>I hate that Sony was allowed to beat Nintendo a couple times and I got made fun of as a kid for owning the "wrong" console>so Nintendo should be allowed to do anything they want now
>>724213238So they going to sue atlus when they release the next SMT game? Or is this reserved for games that clone Pokémon?
>>724213619Reminder that GameFreak was SO asshurt about Palworld that Gen 10, as revealed in the Teraleak, is going to put an emphasis on "surviving in the wilderness", just like Palworld.Pocketpair fucking WONNED, just like Yo-Kai Watch in 2013.
>>724221395>>724221778Yes all those games released after BotW weren't copying BotW. No sir.
There's some obvious illegal bribery going on in the patent office for this patent, as it was approved and granted along side two previously rejected patents with no processing.
>>724213238>Makes ONE Pokemon clone (out of the millions that already exist.)>Manages to become 0.000000000000000001% as successful as the entire Pokemon franchise.>Is enough to make Nintendo crash out and have a nuclear fucking meltdown where they flood the courts trying to patent every single fucking game idea that has ever existed as their own.She's too powerful...
>>724217605BotW is small time. Pokemon is literally THE biggest media franchise in the world. It's bigger than Nintendo itself.
>>724222018>say this in a thread made by a snoy
>>724222180If this was true, that certain anon fucking calledPALWORLD ANON WHERE THE FUCK ARE YOU???
They aren't trying to patent breathing you dumb fuck. Don't say stupid shit like that in case you make it true.Greedy traitors want to keep themselves on top probably. Wimps. They did oot right. Not much else.
>>724222427I mean that was already plainly obvious, given that they were able to alter a patent they were suing them over mid case to preempt a defense
>>724221709>jojo invented bird men
>>724222427>as it was approved and granted along side two previously rejected patents with no processing.Except for the processing that occured for the past two years.
>>724222345Copy of a copy is copy of original concept. No idea why it's hard for your sea monkey brain to comprehend this.
>>724222345>Yes all those games released after BotWBotW and all those games released after Just Cause,hmmmmmm...
>>724222805>given that they were able to alter a patent they were suing them over mid case to preempt a defenseWhich is completely legal as long as you don't change the patent. You're probably going>THEY DID THEY DID THEY DID!!!as those cogs in your head turn but what they did was akin to changing>that can is redTo>that's a red canThat's all you can do.Also it wasn't to preempt a defence but in response to pocketpair claiming it was too hard for them to understand aka the little bitch defence.
>>724213238
>>724217605this shit looks so horrible how do people manage to spend so much money on it
>>724223321Pretty sure MH fans were seething hard about MH clone Wild Something
Nintendo wonPokemon won
>>724223395Ye because wild hearts ran at 5 FPS and killed the gameplay and graphics. Professional nintendo shiteaters would complain that the copycat runs too well.
>>724223395Same with souls fans and just about every souls like.The only one of the three that didn't were the pokemon fans.
>>724223301The "video game" part comes from the stamina wheel. But I wouldn't expect 4chan morons to understand game design.
>>724213238one ppl will simply decide to ignore all this bullshit and that will be it
>>724223528I'm other words you're saying that no one complained about Palworld, they just criticised it.
>>724223606No they would tell Nintendo to sue em for running at 5 FPS while their game runs at 2 FPS. Also lie about them ripping off assets of their previous games.
>>724223540>The only one of the three that didn't were the pokemon fans.Pokemon fans when they ask FBI to arrest Palworld devs for "stealing" Pokemon ideas >we weren't even mad!!!
>>724223310>they didn't change the patent>they just changed it, that's all
>>724223554>Nintendo draw HP hearts as red>sue everyone who dare to show HP/health bar in red color because it was their invention to associate health with color redThis is how you act right now.
>>724223704So criticism.Also it was the palworld fans constantly going>well if it's a rip off Nintendo will sue but they won't because it's not!On their social media
>>724224082Anon, the meaning didn't change ergo the patent didn't change.That's like acting as if "the addition of the first positive integer after zero to the first negative integer preceeding it would result in a null value" doesn't just mean 1+ -1 is 0
>>724224110lying about Palworld stealing assets is not criticism, it's called lying
>>724224110palworld fans act like such jews
>>724224291It would be if it were a lie but we know pocketpair have done that in the past.
>>724224090Let me say it again:I wouldn't expect 4chan morons to understand game design.
If Palworld didn't release in Japan, could Palworld do whatever they want in other regions like USA? Like riding on animals, gliding, pokeballs?
>>724224597they are based in Tokyo so no, Nintendo would get to them through corrupt Japanese legal system anyway
>>724224597They're able to use those concepts in Japan too right now they just chose not to make an original version of it. That said the legal system in the west is far looser than Japan that's why Nintendo themselves have been sued by patent trolls in Europe and America who have no grounds to sue but won anyway until they appealed.
>>724224498game design is when you steal from Just Cause, Batman and Minecraft then claim you invented it all yourself
>>724213238Its goes into way more detail. People are retards that dont understand patents.Lets say nintendo patents a new console and it has an on switch, that on switch will also be in the patent. Now nu-retards will go "nintendo patents on switches now!?".That aside, the summon patent has a ton of detail people need to put in to break the patent, its hyper specific and not just summon.Its summon and and and and and and and ..
>>724224776So you admit pocketpair stole from pokemon then.
>>724224926>be pocketpair>copy from original source>Nintendo: WE WERE FIRST, YOU CAN'T COPY FROM THEM NOW!1!1That's not how it work, copy from copy is copy from original source.
Will Nintendo win another generation?
>>724225040So Nintendo used it first and pocketpair stole.
>>724222180And is Yo-kai Watch still winning... ?
Nincels are genuinely mentally ill
>>724213238>Article from almost 2 months ago>Already was spammed on /v/ 6 gorillion times>Already been explained 6 gorillion times this patent is very specific and only applies to Pokemon Scarlet and VioletIt must be a very bad week for Snoys if the only thing they can muster is regurgitate bait from 2 months ago
>>724225040The issue being that they copied rather than actually making something original based on their idea.
>>724225134Same goes for Nintendo? Glider, climbing stamina are direct copies of original concept. If link was using his farts to propel around air - that would be original concept, using air pressure - isn't.
Palworld snoys are the most deranged and deformed breed of snoy and that's saying a lot. They're insane NDS-ridden cultists that seethe at the thought of Nintendo and Pokémon being successful.
>>724225246You're confusing concepts and mechanics anon.You can use the same concept ie a glider but the mechanic behind it has to be original.Gamefreak made the original mechanic, patented that version in 2021 and when PLA was revealed pocketpair stole it for Palworld instead of making their own version.
>>724225483>Gamefreak made the original mechanicHow it is original? BotW use air pressure to traverse distance with the help from glider. This is exactly how gliders work IRL, there was nothing original.
oh boy, it's this thread again
>>724222180Reminds me how they threw a shit fit over mounts in Palworld then proceeded to have no mounts of any kind in PLZA. Not even a bike
>>724225660Almost like you made that shit fit up.
>>724225660go cry about itoh wait, you already are
>>724224597yes, japan is just a cucked shithole much like jewmerica
>>724225543>BotW use air pressureAnon, there's no air pressure in a game.You have to make a mechanic to replicate the effect. Are you starting to get it at all?
>>724225621Yep, another thread where tendies think Nintendo has a mandate of heaven to do whatever they like
Ninte do invented videogames. They should have a patent for all videogame stuff.
>>724224597No, Nintendo had the same patents filed in 2022 and 2023 and they're slowly being approved in the US.Patent protection is retroactive to the filing date and not patent date and because the American legal system is worse than the Japanese one getting sued there would result in abject ruin for pocketpair.
This thread was made by Eric. He's a snoy and massive OoT fanboy that's been spamming /v/ with anti-Nintendo pedaling for a good decade, he's a weekly villain in Famitsu threads and he reports them over and over for calling him out or for spreading facts he thinks needs to be hidden from /v/ (namely sales of Nintendo hardware and software compared to PlayStation and Steam Deck).If you see posts saying GameCube games are better than Switch games, it's Eric. If you see posts saying Sonic CrossWorlds is better than MK World, it's Eric. If you see the same anti-Nintendo threads popping up over and over, it's Eric. If you see the same posts shilling piracy and emulators, it's Eric. If you see someone denying the existence of Eric and calling him a made-up boogeyman, it's Eric. If you see someone unironically using terms like "tendies" or "Switchfags" and making hyperbolic statements, it's Eric. If you see a red OP image with a Nintendo-related thing, asking some dumb open question, it's Eric. If you see the same repeated lines over and over again, it's Eric samefagging. If you see a massive wall of replies to one post, it's Eric samefagging himself, they'll all be a minute apart. He's always resetting his router and ban evading, and flooding the catalog, and he's got at least a few gigabytes of CP to end any thread that isn't going his way.He's also a massive GameCube fanboy that was so buckbroken by BotW's commercial and critical success that he's determined to make it the most despised game in history, he wants to change the narrative and erase the perceived damage against him.
>>724226370But what is Eric's opinion on tax?
>>724213238Based Nintendo. Not even enough.
>>724225131The schizo is mad since thursday because sales for Pokemon Z-A came outHe got so mad he started spamming cp in every Nintendo related thread on /v/Kek
>>724226682You mean there's another schizo aside from yourself?
Palsnoys and Digimon shills were seriously mindbroken by Z-A's sales, huh?
>>724226737>no uKekYou're so predictable Why all you schizos do is deflect?
>>724223112JoJo invented the bird man who uses fire powers and fights with punches and kicks.By Nintendo's logic, this is clearly a copyright infringement. Shonen Jump needs to patent it.
>>724216958Saar...
>>724226742>by Z-A's sales.The game that sold less than Palworld? AND Legend Arceus? AND Scarlet and Violet? AND Battlefield 6? Tell us about it!
>>724226968>The game that sold less than PalworldPossibly the most delusional snoy cope i've read in a long time. Palworld died within 2 weeks and never recovered.
>>724226968It sold less than Black and White too!BLACK AND WHITE!LMAO.
>>724226968>>724227101>Eric making shit up
>>724226968Now compare Snoyworld's sales to Pokémon as a franchise. I dare you.
>>724227145Z-A sold 5 million in one week.Legends Arceus and Black and White sold 6 million in the same period.Battlefield 6 sold 7 million in one week.Scarlet and Violet sold 10 million in three days.Z-A's sales figures are even lower than those of Sword and Shield too. Probably only higher than LGPE, but that ain't much.It doesn't look good.
>>724227205>Merchandising.We're on /v/ (Video-Games)If you want to talk about dolls, t-shirts, and other trinkets, go to >>>/biz/
>Palsnoy immediately moves the goal post
>We'll talk about video game sales.>"Well, let's take a look at merchandising sales!">But we're talking about video game sales.>"G-goalpost moving."Ironic.
Shut the fuck up.One of you faggots are Roblox.
>>724227553None*Shit
>>724213768>Donny indiscriminately fucks up another global functioncolor me shocked
>>724227037Explain how it died if it sold more copies?
>>724213238Florian Muller, who writes the gamesfray articles that mass media always quotes, isn't a lawyer. He has never studied, went to any kind of law school, nor has even worked at any kind of law firm.He's an app developer and "intellectual property activist". He did "consult" Microsoft and is paid by them. He also has huge bias for some corpos while attacking others(mainly Nintendo recently).Almost all his articles in gamesfray are about Nintendo or mentions Nintendo in negative light for some reason even when it isn't relevant.It's biased legal and patent news by a guy who has no legal expertise and has history of being paid by other corporations. And his articles are for some reason quoted by almost EVERY FUCKING GAMES JOURNALIST OUT THERE AS SOME KIND OF FACTUAL AND OBJECTIVE RESEARCH ON PATENTS AND LAW. It's fucking absurd and even when everyone knows games journalism is bad, this kind of shit is laughable. Nobody even contacts actual lawyers or experts on these things for some reason when it usually is the baseline of journalism. You wouldn't use random opinion blog on traffic engineering as a primary source on some traffic construction and it's plans. You would contact them directly or use someone who has degree in it.Seriously, Florian Muller has literally no degree or proper experience in shit he talks about.
>>724229656More info on why OPs article is bs:https://ninpatentswatch.wordpress.com/2025/10/13/pokemon-patents-misinformation/But as it has more than few sentences, anons probably thinks it's leftist article.
>>724213238Uhm, sweaty, Nintendo is just protecting itself from thieves. Are you a thief?>>724213682Nintendo is not a criminal company. PocketThieves are though
>>724213238Someone should patent 3rd person so these fuckers can't pollute this world with any more of their "games".
This blue noodle mindbroke millions of tendies
>>724217928I prefer gameboy
you are 1 month late retardkill yourself
>>724213238i dont care about future video games. humanity does not have creative ability anymore, so games cant ever be good againive got 40 years of games that i can play entirely for free as wellbreak free of the modern slop cycle and embrace all the video games that were made in better decades
>>724226887>JoJo invented the bird man who uses fire powers and fights with punches and kicks.>implying it didReminder Flying Men in Mother 1 were created years before SC chapter 1
>>724213238Kek, absolutely subhuman pedo terrorist organization.
>>724217490>implying China is not capitalist
>>724213238>patent breathing>your competition diesIt's just smart business
fuck nintendoi'm genuinely ashamed to say i was ever a fan of a single one of their gamesi will unironically burn my snes and n64 i've had since childhood. i can't fucking play them anymore without being reminded the company that made them is dirtier than old dishwater. i was saving them for my kids but nope. good job furukawa you just nuked your entire customer base. what a fucking disgusting business.
>>724234314The pokemon side of things is jewish but everything else, which is funded by the pokemon side of things, is really good
>>724234382i don't carethis sours my entire relationship with their products past and present. when i do it i will make it public and put it on my instagram to get as much traction as possible. i am 100% serious. the only things i will save are games from their consoles made by other companies so my copies of rush 2049 and f-zero gx will be safe, but everything else is going in a bonfire when my family gets together for the holidays.sega won after all
>Nintendo announces an $80 game>it sells 6 million copies in the first month with people also buying a $500 console to play it on.>other companies try to sell their games at $80>they get immediately blasted and have to backtrack the price because nobody would pay $80 for their shite.It's just too funny.
>>724213238They are the worst, but the biggest clowns are the entity handling that.
>>724234665the patent backhandedness calls into question whether or not those sales are actually real and they're not just padding them out by reporting shipments as sales. don't you dare post yamauchi, old man is spinning in his fucking grave right now.
>>724213238All patents are fake and gay and should be abolished. "Stealing" a game mechanic makes about as much sense as "cultural appropriation".
>>724234781>calls into question whether or not those sales are actually realYeah Nintendo are committing corporate fraud and lying to their investors. Fucking 4chan schizos, not even once.
>>724225087DependsAre rotom phones still a thing?
>>724234665>Nintendo announces an $80 gameWhich one? Nintendo hasn't sold a single game for 80 USD as far as I know.
>>724234382Nah, the last game of theirs that was decent was Dread. Everything else has been varying levels of slop.
>>724234908>implying they aren't blatantly doing that too
>>724234997The delusional fantasy world you people live in, is truly fascinating to observe.
>>724235213If they had proof that nintendo is breaking the law then they should've shown that evidence to their governments years ago when the switch surpassed the PS4's hardware sales.
>>724223321CHINGYUAAAA!(angry)
>>724234947>>724234665Guess he couldn't name even 1 (one) example.kek
>>724229656LmaoEveryone in the west uses that guy as their source? A Microsoft/Google shill?And despite shitting on vidya journos nonstop, everyone here believes him too.Fucking LOL I know "fake news" is a meme but /v/ believes literally anything that confirms their biases.
>>724213238it won't hold in court and they know thatit's just copyright trolling to bully smaller devs
>>724234314>i will unironically burn my snes and n64 i've had since childhood. i can't fucking play them anymore without being reminded the company that made them is dirtier than old dishwaterNow that's cult like behavior, its what trans people did with their Harry Potter books.
>>724235481Are you retarded? Serious question.
>>724229656do you need to be a lawyer to read this?>A non-transitory computer-readable storage medium having stored therein a game program, the game program causing a processor of an information processing apparatus to execute: performing control of moving a player character on a field in a virtual space, based on movement operational input; performing control of causing a sub character to appear on the field, based on a first operational input, and when an enemy character is placed at a location where the sub character is caused to appear, controlling a battle between the sub character and the enemy character by a first mode in which the battle proceeds based on an operation input, and when an enemy is not placed at the location where the sub character is caused to appear, starting automatic control of automatically moving the sub character that has appeared; and performing control of moving the sub character in a predetermined direction on the field, based on a second operation input, and, when the enemy character is placed at a location of a designation, controlling a battle between the sub character and the enemy character by a second mode in which the battle automatically proceeds.
>>724236585Are you?You have to post an example. Just 1 (one). Don't be scared.
>>724236104your cope is retarded, patenting gameplay mechanics is asscancer and you know ityou're just a fucking retarded cultist
So do games like picrel violate nintendos patents?
>>724236627I don't understand why the fuck the government doesn't tell the USPTO to fuck off and outlaw software patents. yuropoors had the right idea when they banned them
>>724237149Because we’re owned by corporations lmfao.
>>724221395>Unless these games predates OoTWho uses a glider in oot? Sheik? You wouldn't be able to patent that since it's not gameplay.
>>724213238Palworld is better than Pokemon ever will be. It's already over. Nintendo also ripped off Final Fantasy summons.
>>724213856weird they didn't patent it 5 years after botw released bc after that a lot of games including AAA games have similar gliding shit lol
>>724231998Based Chillet
>>724213238jewtendo went hyperjew mode after a gacha game made a better botw and a indie dev made a better pokemon. instead of realizing they make terrible games and should try to be better they want to prevent others from making those games ever again.
>>724213856
>>724213238>a common gameplay mechanic wherein an in-game character to summon another sub-character to support it in battle.So I know you are all busy fighting console wars and baiting people but can we talk about this specifically?Is this just the generic way to patent Pokemon summoning or do they plan to expand it further? Is Final Fantasy not going to be able to use summons anymore? Are tag fighters not going to be allowed to have assist moves? How did they get away with a patent that broad?
>>724223321Meanwhile back to reality:>Open any NG4>"HURR DURR MUH SEKIRO 6 GORILLION STEAM SALES"
>>724240040This
>>724236724Anything associated with copyright law is cancerous too. I've researched the law quite ardently, and it's disgusting just how many restrictions are placed on customers. >you can't download roms from the internet under any circumstance, even if you own the game, because the people who distribute it aren't authorized to do so>BUT you can't rip your own rom because that violates the DMCA, since you're circumventing copy protection to do so, so no video games are allowed to be ripped even for personal use>no ripping music from the game either, even if no official soundtrack is available for purchase, because you're "tampering with copyrighted code">section 117 of copyright law even says that the backup archival exception doesn't apply to anything copyrighted, and you can only make backup copies of programs that aren't protected (defeats the whole point)>even if you got around this, you are only permitted one backup copy, that cannot be tampered with or played while the original is in use. that means no modding or romhacking>if your copy is ever stolen or destroyed, you have to destroy your backup copy as well because you no longer have a valid license>EULAs and TOS agreements are fully enforceable unless you can contest them in a court of law, which requires millions to fund lawyers and court fees, so at any time they can order you to destroy your copy if you ever fail to uphold your end of the agreement, or they can just terminate it at any time through no fault of your own>they also have the legal right to enforce shrinkwrap agreements, where you agree to any terms they want if you take the shrink wrap off of a game>they can also change the agreement at any time, and if you don't agree, they can take your product away and not give you a refundtl;dr Death to corporations and copyright law, it's all disgusting (((merchant))) pilpul.
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>>724236627No, but you need to be a lawyer to understand it. Also, there a lot of different lawyers and being "a lawyer" doesn't mean anything unless you specify what kind of lawyer you are. This whole thing is retarded anyway because the people defending and complaining do not even understand what is going on so it's just shitflinging from both sides.
>>724213238Chudworld lost, inceland all you can do is cry about it :3
>>724213856They did. That's why they removed gliding pals in palworld.
So the only games that are even going to be able to be produced without Nintendo claiming their funding is going to be from places where Nintendo has no legal recourse, such as China or Russia?Or uh, deepweb stuff I guess. Gotta pay for new vidya with bitcoin otherwise Nintendo will send the Pinkertons after you.Man, the future fucking sucks
>>724241279You sound jaded as fuck.
>>724241335>he says, in 2025Go outside you fag. Everything really does suck, but you wouldn't know because you have mum buy everything for you and never set foot outside you fag.
>>724241391You sound jaded as fuck + stop projecting.
IHAVEANTI-NINTENDOFATIGUE
>>724213619Is that a palworld monster? What's its name?
>>724241507It's a Eevee
>>724213238Mimicbros, we are going to have to git gud
>>724218001Ni no Kuni
>>724241507Cremis>>724241574Nope
>>724240937What's the issue here exactly?
>>724242349Yes it is. All you chinks can do is steal and lie from Nintendo and Pokemon. Fuck you.
>>724234946Yes, they're still an indefinite fixture of the franchise and only continue to become less impressive now that we can directly compare them to ChatGPT, causing Pokemon to lose its sense of sci-fi technology identity aside from the occasional teleporter.
>>724241506I have anti-anti-nintendo fatigue
>>724242379>Nintendo fans hate on steam because of the whole "you will own nothing" philosophy>but now they defend it when it's Nintendo flavoredlollmao
>>724218672Does she still have extended fly time in the new region? I mean, just regular non-Natlan fly time is still pretty broken for exploration.
>>724220464How about you stop being a passive aggressive bitch about any discussion that you don't particularly like?>Leave the multibillion dollar company alone!Fuck off>stay relevantPeople buying their products do
>>724214219Because it was granted incorrectly and Nintendo is likely going to lose all of these patents in court.
>>724215760WRPG is my favorite genre. Nothing quite like logging into the web and playing an RPG with friends.
>>724243882>Nintendo is likely going to lose all of these patents in court.Yes if there's one thing Nintendo are known for, it's losing court cases.
>>724216740Some Youtubers are doing something equivalent to this. You can challenge a patent in court but you have to pay a few up front. If the patent is ruled invalid you get the fee back.
>>724240953lol retard.
>>724213238We are in a cyberpunk dystopia
>>724213238>Nintendo owns necromancers, summoners, and monster battlersRIP SMT/Persona, every Dragon Quest monsters game, like half of Digimon, most CRPGs, pretty much every MMO, Diablo and every game like it, some JRPGs like Lufia 2 and Square can apparently go fuck themselves, and even more I can't think of right now.It's kind of funny just how roundabout Nintendo is being with Palworld because they can't do anything directly.
>>724227807hi leftypol
>>724218171>person who only plays Nintendo games playing their first non Nintendo game ever
>>724231198those lines of code were added by and at the request of the am*rican branch of the companylook at your own traitors first instead of bitching that japs on the other side of the planet are tired of getting pirated
>>724244592>Digimon TS gets delisted>Elden Ring update to remove spirit ashes>FFXIV removes the summoner class
>>724244036This is patent court. Nintendo's history of successfully defending patents has not been very good because they've tried to patent just about everything.
>fag starts spamming cp againat least the mods deleted it this time
is /v/ the hardest board to moderate?I swear there's a bot spamming CP every fucking day, every fucking hour on this stupid board holy SHIT bro
>>724213238>throwing enough money at a patent office let you patent any concept even when it has been used by the whole world for over two decades I wonder the kind of retardation we will witness in the coming years
>>724244969>>724245238it's not even that disruptive because he has to embed it in pictures now so you can't see shit anyway
>>724222543This is what makes it so funny.Indie pokemon clones have been a dime a dozen for ages, and palworld wasn't even particularly successful compared to the obscene profits game freak pulls in by putting out cheap garbage.They didn't even imitate the gameplay much at all, playing vastly different from pokemon.Something about them has triggered Nintendo hard though.
>>724218869>No software function should be patentable periodIt's not, you can replicate functionalities just by observing the source material. That's why emulators are allowed to exist without legal consequence, much to Nintendo and Sony's dismay.
>>724213238If Sony did this, you'd say 'Sony won.'
>>724244592This isn't how patents work dumbass
>>724245369It probably was Pocketpair trying to setup multimedia and merchandising
>>724230083I can't believe I bothered to click your shit>This is the same rhetoric that anti-vaxxers use to sow distrust against immunologists and the healthcare system.You're a fucking retard. And so am I for clicking on a link for "ninpatentswatch on patent misinformation."
>>724245369Palworld is estimated to have generated $600 million in gross revenue, and that's from just the single game. That kind of money is on par with a mainline Pokemon game and that's the real reason Nintendo is pissed. From their POV, that's $600 million that should have gone into their own pocket, so that means Palworld has to be eliminated, and the merchandise and anime series aren't even out yet (they are coming).
>>724213619Its still crazy to me that a Pokémon skinned version of Ark Survival was enough to cause this much retardation.
>>724213619>>7242132382 wrongs dont make a right. Pocketpair clearly intended to ape off GF's designs, and that's its own lack of ethics, but conceptual mechanic patents are Nintendo's nuclear option in more ways than one.
>>724213238NO SPAWNING ALLOWED
>>724246932are we just pulling numbers out of our ass now
>>724234665>It's just too funny.It is pretty funny how low tendie standards are, yeah.
>>724245727Not that anon, but clearly you are missing the point of his post. The point is that clearly countless games have used this type of gameplay mechanic long before Nintendo decided to patent it, making the patent unenforceable and liable to be revoked if Nintendo actually tries to sue anyone because of it.https://dexpatent.com/patent-guide/patent-revocation/#:~:text=What%20is%20patent%20revocation?,a%20practical%20use%20or%20application>There are several key grounds on which a patent can be revoked:>Lack of Novelty: If the invention was not new and publicly known or used before the patent application date.
>>724240040>EA buys up studios that make better games, ruins their games, then kills them>Epic pays off studios to avoid using better software>Nintendo files incredibly broad patents to target better gamesEA is still the king of ruining the industry, but the others are trying to catch up.
>>724213238Just stop copying Nintendo. Problem solved.
>>724214324>what is D&D
>>724249036and by "targeting better games" you mean just palworld
>>724213238>Nintendo secures another patent>Palshits begin to seethe and cryBASED! BASED! BASED!
>>724213238>12M+ patentsso, the government is just a corpo cockslave.
>>724244592Nintendo owns a shit ton of patents but they never enforce them, they will only use them against Palcrap because they copied too hard. Why would Nintendo kill DQ and SMT when they have partnerships with Atlus and SE? don't be dumb.
>>724217928cubesnoy
>>724213238amerimutts need to be nuked asap
>>724213238kinda too late for that. 10 million chinks already played palworld and now 3 palworld clones are already in development. all with a higher budget than the recent pokemon and palworld games put together
>>724217605I don't know if you realize this but nintendo would lose and get absorbed if they even DARED to attempt touching them. They'd lose way too much
>>724244840I've been reading on opinions by patent attorneys both in the US and Japan. Americans are saying that nintendo is probably going to lose, while the japs aren't sure who is going to win but that this is a much tougher battle for nintendo than usual. It doesn't signal confidence when they have to change their patents in the middle of a case.
>>724223704Nobody can read this tiny ass picture. It made me completely disregard your post
>>724244592Nintendo won't go after other AAA devs because cowards don't pick fights they can't win. They only want to bully smaller studios to death. Patent trolling exists as a tool to preserve the status quo, which makes life easier for shareholders.
>>724213238>Nintendo has secured a new patentI FUCKING KNEEL
>>724249238The quality you blindly apply to game freak's half assed output is cute.Like many people have already pointed out, these patents target MANY games because of how nonspecific their coverage is, including small games like Strider to much larger ones like Elden Ring.It's leverage they don't deserve to have.
>>724243524No! Fuck off, Hue-Monkey!
>>724249607>It's fine that they keep asking for guns!>They just won't use them, it's fine! >Stop complaining about Nintendo getting more guns!
>>724213238>palworld still has summons>palworld still has 50+ more mounts than pokemon does>still showing summoning spheres in their latest trailer>has to change patent in the middle of caseYou don't change patents in the middle of a case unless you're losing pretty hard. What's worse is that it can easily be circumvented. No palspheres? Okay just use regular summoning with cybernetic implants or a summoning gun like digimon. I can only see them being this desperate because they realized how retarded gamefreak is
>>724246378>Being offended for someone pointing that the "vaccines makes you autistic!" crowd uses retarded argumentsAre you serious?
>And not a single person arguing against Nintendo read what the actual patent is actually about.Congratulations! You have NDS, Dumbass!
>>724250964who the fuck's talking about game freakno one else is getting sued, it's just those clownseveryone else was fine for 30 years
>>724216438>quasifaggot
>>724225246Patents can be a combination of known concepts.
>>724217928PCsnoy, steamsnoy works as well.
>>724251373cry about it, lmao
>>724228285It didn't sell more copies.
>>724251549I've read the actual patent, and it's just nonsense.Basically Nintendo wants to own the concept of summoning a character and then telling it what to do.>A non-transitory computer-readable storage medium having stored therein a game program, the game program causing a processor of an information processing apparatus to execute: performing control of moving a player character on a field in a virtual space, based on movement operational input; performing control of causing a sub character to appear on the field, based on a first operational input, and when an enemy character is placed at a location where the sub character is caused to appear, controlling a battle between the sub character and the enemy character by a first mode in which the battle proceeds based on an operation input, and when an enemy is not placed at the location where the sub character is caused to appear, starting automatic control of automatically moving the sub character that has appeared; and performing control of moving the sub character in a predetermined direction on the field, based on a second operation input, and, when the enemy character is placed at a location of a designation, controlling a battle between the sub character and the enemy character by a second mode in which the battle automatically proceeds. This is the exact claim, but getting rid of the clutter leaves us with this:>if you summon a character and it fights someone, we own it!
>>724252197Well, now they own it. Sucks to be you I guess.
>>724252197that's not "the exact claim", that's the abstractgo read the other 40 pages, dumbass
>>724240937The punishment for these "crimes" that you're terrified of committing is being asked to stop. That's literally it and you're crying.
>>724250373Nexomon and temtem are much more blatant copies. Especially in terms of gameplay. They're pretty much only suing palworld because it turned out successful. If it was like nexomon with only 10 players playing concurrently shit wouldn't even be on their radar. They made the mistake of suing too late and now they have half a billion dollars growing while still selling more copies. If anything, the lawsuit made their game blew up more than it would've otherwise.Even chinks are noticing this and are making a shit ton of palworld clones.
>>724223772Seriously, there was such a flood of reports and emails, TPC made a statement.
>>724252251Only if you're a golem who actually gives legitimacy to the patent office. lmao>>724252393>just stop caring about corporations completely destroying the rule of law by bribing politicians
>>724225343Threadly reminder that it launched on Xbox and Steam, and no amount of screeching will change the fact that the PS version was an afterthought that came months later.
>>724225343>Splatoon pedo offering his input without anyone askingThat's nice, sweetie.
>>724252627Don't bother with pokesnoys, they'll never concede.
>>724227807kill yourself, gcjtranny
>>724252484Doesn't matter to me, I'm just happy that Nintendo got another patent approved just so they can fuck palshit even more.
>>724252976and then you cry and complain when people ruin your nintendo threads.
>>724213238>>Nintendo has secured a new patent that protects a common gameplay mechanic wherein an in-game character to summon another sub-character to support it in battle.They didn't do this, and you're mad at incorrect details.
Everyone calling nintendo evil instead of blaming your retarded low iq government for allowing for nintendo to do this in the first place its so over.
>>724253291NDS fags don't care. They believe lies and actively spreads them knowing they are lies, because they are just addicted to hating Nintendo.
STOP. SAYING. BAD. THINGS. ABOUT. NINTENDO. RIGHT. FUCKING. NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOWWWWWWWWWWWWW!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
>>724252976Except all the patent attorneys are saying that nintendo is getting raped and gaped. Its been 1 year since the suing and palworld still has summons and mounts and all you can do is shit and cry.You don't win over the public or court by releasing shit games with shit gameplay that is somehow less polished than chink mobile shit. This is probably why ZA has less sales than arceus with palworld beating them both.
>>724252197How do you not know what the word "and" means?
>>724253520Why shouldn't I hate the concept of Nintendo announcing DLC before the game is even out, and then not releasing it for free? You guys gloated about how Nintendo makes so much money with this series, but we're still charged a premium. None of it comes back to the customer.
>>724213238isn't this what most gacha games are built onthey're definitely not winning this fight
>>724253604alright, show me one example of a patent attorney going on record saying that
>>724252484>just stop caring about corporations completely destroying the rule of law by bribing politiciansCome again? Were you quoting someone here or is this your original thought?
>>724253604LOL
>>724253897What's the answer, sealion? ;)
>>724213238>patent breathing
>>724253965I don't know. I didn't write that post so I can't explain the intention behind it
>>724253291>They didn't do thisI'm now sad. I just want Nintendo to get even more patents.
>>724254124Cheer up
>>724254070If you don't know, then maybe you shouldn't comment on it.
>>724253932Palworld did sell about 25 million between Xbox and Steam, though that was after a few weeks.I imagine ZA will catch up in the next couple of weeks. Not that it didn't already make it's money back.
>>724254326False if/then
>>724213238this shit can literally be applied against tekken tag. Patents are fucking retarded
>>724254463Fallacy fallacy.
>>724240937>Anything associated with copyright law is cancerous tooOYYYYYYYYYY VEYYYYYYYYYYYYY YOU FUCKING ANTI-SEMITE. TAKE THAT BACK>>724252393you're right, go- I mean esteemed citizen. only dirty hackers get slapped with $150000 a pop per work infringed. you tell that filthy go- I mean misinformed gentleman!
>>724213238Copywrite and Patents are absolute bullshit. Especially when its vague or common shit like this. People should be able to copy things. Who gives a shit? If you were the first to make something you already have a huge advantage in the market and people will generally support you because of you being first. In the rare cases where some copycat performs better it always because they did something better.
>>724213238Shin Megami Tensei is older than Pokemon. This patent has no future.
>>724254656>hackers get slapped with $150000 a pop per work infringeNo they don't. Profiteers might however.
>>724254769Nintendo has more money to throw around than atlus and sega doesnt give a fuck about video games
My response to this whole drama.
>>724254947Yeah, that's not how it works. Also, going to war with SEGA? Are you stupid? Nintendo barely has third party games on his console. Everyone would abandon them.
>>724254661The patent in question isn't vague or common.
>>724213238Nintendo won
>>724242892>Nintendo fans hate on steam because of the whole "you will own nothing" philosophyWhat? Who said you don't own anything on steam?
>>724244840>Nintendo's history of successfully defending patents has not been very good because they've tried to patent just about everything.Anon, their success record for patent cases is almost 100%. The few they have lost were overturned by a higher court.
>>724216734Not just tag fighters, any fighter with support character attacks.Any rpg with summons.Any rts with abilities that create units ect.
>>724213238how can patent things they didn't come up with?
>>724255369Money.
>>724255192nta I say that all the time
>>724217605>grown men play this shitwow suicide rates need to be higher
>>724216734No, tag fighters use completely different mechanics. You have to remember that it isn't the act of summoning that's patented but how the summoning happens.Basically this patent will only ever affect how it's done in pokemon and any other games that has a 1 to 1 copy of how it's done in pokemon.
>>724255369See >>724251891
>>724255114>Summoning a sub character to support your main character isn't common.
>>724255501pokemon copied smt though
>>724253876>I’ve been following patent litigation for 15 years (for the better part of that period as a consultant) and have seen many claims that were amended, but I’ve never seen “even when” or “even if” in a patent claim. It’s bizarre.>Changing a patent in the middle of an ongoing case is risky, and it signals that Nintendo perhaps doesn't believe its current claims will hold up in court. Using vague language like this doesn't inspire confidence, and the new wording is so clunky in the context of the entire claim that it may do more harm to their case than good. >Florian Mueller Looks like nintendo is getting raped pretty hard. Even the tendie games analyst says palworld won't likely be gone.
>>724255192It's mostly sonyggas who say it.
>>724255557too bad they didn't get the patent in time then, now nintendo owns it and i'm glad it happened that way.
>>724255369Simple, they patented something they came up with.
>>724255774That's not how the law works.
>>724255369Because the patent system is about who pays the most money. Such basic systems that everyone used for decades also cant be patented and it wouldnt hold up in any western court. Since their games are dogshit they gotta try to fight it with lawfare.
>>724255709>>Changing a patent in the middle of an ongoing case is riskyOkay, this guy totally isn't a patent lawyer because that happens all the time and it's riskier NOT to change it when the defendant argues it's vague.
>>724253932>palworld outsold arceus>legends za sold less than arceus even with more switches in the wildgrim
>>724255826cry more then because that's what happened
>>724255709that mueller guy is neither a lawyer nor a credible sourcetry again
>>724255871>using “even when” or “even if” in a patent claim.nintendo is getting raped lmao.
>>724256237That patent has no staying power. SEGA can just roll over it.
>>724252197This describes Pokémon ZA's combat to the t. To say it targets summoning in general is a blatant lie. Have you read the text you posted?
>>724255521summoning a support character with an action input and not an automatic process, and which you and the support character can act in free space, and your support character automatically determines if it attacks or wanders the environment on its own, and also doesn't just stand idle when no enemy is present, and the character can be swapped out of automatic combat and into regular turn based combat at any time, isn't common.
>getting my ass kicked in a game>call up a friend who plays better than me so he can help>get sued by nintendoWOOOOOOOOOOOW
>>724256301>using “even when” or “even if” in a patent claim.yep. nintendo is getting raped.
>>724256692so you can't find an actual lawyer that supports your claim
>>724256312Yes, that's how patents work.
nintendo getting raped isnt enough, they need to be raped to death. FUCK this anti gameplay anti fun money grubbing syndicate
>>724213238>just imagine if Sony had not stopped nintendo in the 90sGood lord...Nintendo are literally the nazis of the video game industry
>>724254867thomas-rasset was ordered to pay over 2 fucking million for an album her kid downloaded off bittorrentyou are full of shit you turbo kike
>>724256984>Sega still making consoles>sonyfags wouldn't exist>AAA games wouldn't exist>graphics push wouldn't happen>ms wouldn't enter gaming>online subs wouldn't be a thing outside of MMOsFuck, that would have been a golden age
>>724257341>>Sega still making consolesSega doomed itself by its own hands. Sony has nothing to do with it. Market share was there, but Sega was too dumb.>>sonyfags wouldn't existModern Sony (aka snoy) != og 90s and 00s sony>>graphics push wouldn't happenThis makes no sense.>if ms wouldn't enter gaming online subs, microtransactions and DLCs wouldn't be a thingFixed that for you
>>724257134That's because he kept mass distributing after being asked to stop. So hw was summoned to court because of his refusal, then decided to lie under oath as hia defense instead of taking a 3 grand plea charge of which he was obviously guilty.
>>724257341>>AAA games wouldn't existWhy not? Big publishers would still exist.
>>724253741The thing is that FUCKTON of games has done and has been doing it forever, but it seems to be problem only when Nintendo does it.Again.Sonic Crossworlds has a battlepass revealed before game came out, and it was already developed content as seen in trailers. But nobody complained at all.
>>724246378>NDSfags are antivaxxersLmao have fun with random dude's bone marrow as your "alternative medicine".
>>724213238BASED. Hopefully Nintendo gets to patent every single mechanic and idea in the world so every other company must ask CHADtendo to use it in their game.
>>724256645You just described pet classes in MMORPGs and forgot that RPGs in the style of Pathfinder: Kingmaker and the many other games like BG3 or NWN2 also do that.>World of Warcraft: Hunter pets do this and can be swapped with other animals and Warlocks can swap between different types of demon pets on the fly>City Of Heroes: Mastermind is an entire Archetype dedicated to summoning pets that work automatically and lets you give them commands on the fly>Final Fantasy 14: There is a job called summoner that has you use different pets summoned in a rotation on the fly and Scholar which has a healer pet you summon.
>>724257907>>if ms wouldn't enter gaming online subs, microtransactions and DLCs wouldn't be a thingMS didn't start those but it was Sony that popularised them.
>>724255871>>724256874Except all patent attorneys are saying nintendo is getting raped. It should be pretty easy to disprove him. Show me a time where nintendo has amended their claims and included language like "even when” or “even if." in any of their cases before the palworld ones.
>>724258110The push for larger budgets came from the push for new and more bombastic graphics as well as the expansion into mainstream media which are things Sony pushed for when they introduced the casual market to gaming.
>>724256301Nintendo giving up on copyright claims pretty much means they gave up. You can't really do much damage with gameplay patents because games can always switch to a better mechanic like a summoning gun for example.
>>724258851>Show me a time where nintendo has amended their claims and included language like "even when” or “even if." in any of their cases before the palworld ones.Nintendo has only been the plaintiff in one patent case prior to this and it was the colopl case where they pull the same "it's vague" stalling tactic pocketpair currently is and just like the pocketpair case Nintendo made a minimal change and that line of defence was swiftly abandoned.
>>724222180The should be very worried about Digimon time stranger. A shitload of Digimons. Unique attack Animations for each. Smooth animations at that. Unique skill animations. Voice acting for all Digimons. Decent story. Decent world building. Vibrant colorful world. But Tbf Digimon battles aren't Pokémon battles. They are Shin megami Tensei battles. It truly raised the bar for monster tamer games when gamefreak hasnt even been trying since forever. I love Pokémon but I haven't played a decent one in ages. Even pirating the switch ones I wasn't engaged and ended up dropping them early. This Digimon game got me hooked and hoping they keep making them. Pokémon.... I don't even care anymore, if they make a good one maybe.
>>724243958No that's WWWRPG.WRPG is when your characters use only martial arts
Nintendo wants to censor this
>>724259025>You can't really do much damage with gameplay patents because games can always switch to a better mechanic like a summoning gun for exampleAnon, that's not what a mechanic is.Whether it's a gun, a ball, your mother's left but it doesn't matter, mechanic patents aren't about the visual representation or the actual concept.
>>724258746>>724253681
>>724256815>know they're going to get raped in copyright claims, switch to gameplay patents so you have to show pokemon's shit gameplay to the public>easily circumvented by minor changes like skinsyou lost tendie nigger.
>>724259115>A shitload of Digimons. Unique attack Animations for each. Smooth animations at that. Unique skill animations. Voice acting for all Digimons. Decent story. Decent world building. Vibrant colorful world. But Tbf Digimon battles aren't Pokémon battles. They are Shin megami Tensei battlesNotice how the only time this anon actually talks about the gameplay he gets it wrong and compares it to SMT despite the game not having any mechanics from it.By the by most "unique" animations are just the regular attack animations with different particle effects and different camera angles and that "shitload" of Digimon is still about 350 behind pokemon when including dlc for both, not counting forms for pokemon obviously because then it would probably be 600 out.
>>724259290>>724259025that's not a lawyer, that's your badly informed opiniontry again
>>724214324>It stops the industry from turning into a copycat competitionKEK, sure it does
>>724259458>15 year patent autist ip consultant > autistic tendie nigger
>>724259220>summoning a support character with an action input and not an automatic process, and which you and the support character can act in free space, and your support character automatically determines if it attacks or wanders the environment on its own, and also doesn't just stand idle when no enemy is present, and the character can be swapped out of automatic combat and into regular turn based combat at any time, isn't common.I'm responding to this and now your changing the subject to the patent itself when the original post i responded to was probably the stupidest thing i have ever read. The patent is something hyper specific but what i responded to originally has nothing to do with the patent and just sounds retarded.>Inb4 merely pretending
>>724259196except palworld circumvented it by changing its gliding skin. The function was the same, but change is entirely cosmetic.
>>724259603so that's really the only guy you could find huh, some shyster blowing smoke that's sad, rip palworld
>>724259672>now your changing the subject to the patent itself>>724254661>Especially when its vague or common shit like this.
>>724213619Nigga pokemon are just copies of animals or real objects like lamps and candles and shit. You cannot get mad at someone copying that
>>724213238They will lose this patent when it is challengedGod nintentroons are fucking insufferable. They would gladly see gaming killed just so they can jerk off to famitsu sales. It's actual mental illness
>>724259603>15 year patent autist ip consultantSo where's his checkable work history then?
>>724259720>5 patent experts/ip consultants/attorneys >>>>> 1 random games analyst and some autistic tendie corporate cuckyou lost
>>724259706>except palworld circumvented it by changing its gliding skinThey didn't.1) because that's not how it works at all or they wouldn't be getting sued in the first place2) they had to remove the mechanic because Nintendo has an interim injunction on their use of them meaning they were forced to remove the mechanics.
>>724234947Mario Kart World physical was 80.
>>724259998so far you only named one, and he ain't even a lawyer lmao
>>724259956They don't even have sales. Even normies are catching on that pc is better. they'd choose overpriced laptops and prebuilts over shartendo
>>724259956Challenged by what?
>>724217316>I'm not a fan of the capitalist system anywayThe phone/computer you're using is a result of capitalism you commie troon
>>724259998>>724260190>5 patent experts/ip consultants/attorneys >>>>> autistic nigger retard that can't even find my postholy shit kill all tendies.
>>724257962>lie under oathshe denied having shared shit. no one even established whether it was her1 IP =/= 1 personyou're fucked in the head law kike
>>724259956>They will lose this patent when it is challengedPocketpair has already presented several games using the concept and they've all been thrown out as arguments since the mechanics behind them were all different.After that they attempted to throw modding under the bus which to no one's surprise was also thrown out.
>>724260384you mean chat-gpt's postgo on, find me a quote from someone that's an actual authority on the subject that says nintendo's gonna lose
>>724260470why are courts so fucking crooked and corrupt? all these clowns are doing is making me hate and resent the legal system as it favors corporations with billions of dollars to burn."intellectual property" as a concept is a sham. hell, software patents alone are a crock of horseshit
>>724259890>Looks for a post i never responded to in the first place to attempt to defend the actual post i'm referring to that had retarded shit in it.
>>724260240>Fiscal year reports for Nintendo 2020: Sales grew 113.2% year-on-year in both hardware & software
>>724258802Nope!Microsoft built the entire infrastructure for DLCs, microtransactions, and subscriptions. Also opened the flood gates of anti-consumer practices.>DLCs:The most notorious one being the Halo 2 Multiplayer Map Pack. A downloadable content (DLC) collection for Halo 2. It was released on July 5, 2005, for $19.99Microstransaction: the infamous Oblivion Horse Armor. Released on the Microsoft X360 Store in 2006.Subscription: forcing players to subscribe to Xbox Live to be able to play online.PS3 had none of this during its first years, but the damage done and alienation by Microsoft was beyond recovery.Only in the PS3 soft relaunch (the PS3 slim rebrand) is that Sony finally "sold their soul to the devil" and started to do the same.
>>724260463>An online investigative firm, MediaSentry, traced a KaZaA file-sharing account using the username "tereastarr" back to Thomas-Rasset's Internet Protocol (IP) address. Thomas-Rasset admitted in court that "tereastarr" was a username she regularly used for her online and computer accounts.>Juror Michael Hegg later commented, "She's a liar."
>>724260470>Japanese courts>Not US where the patents were filedRetard >>724260628>t. Console warrior who jerks off to Famitsu sales
>>724260612>all these clowns are doing is making me hate and resent the legal system as it favors corporations with billions of dollars to burn.Anon, this literally has nothing to do with money. In fact it was pocketpair who used the stalling tactic when they questioned the wording of the patent since the only response to that is to call for time to revise the wording of the patent to be more clear.
>>724260621The patent in question isn't vague or common
>>724260628>nintendo sold 28.83 million switches at its peak>gaming laptops sell more than this annually with over 30 millionsalesfags btfo
>>724261172It was actually you who brought up sales in attempt to console war.
>>724248446If anything Palworld might have sold more copies than recent pokemon installments.
>>724261291No you got baited by >>724260240And you are such a good little console warrior you had your gay little talking points memorized. Kek. What's funnier is you retards don't even speculate on stocks. You literally just track sales figures so you can console war on 4chan, because that's all your life is. Its pathetic.
>>724220726>it's not their job to check if your are the firstIt literally is you dumb fuck.
>>724213238If palworld somehow gets taken down(which literally will never happen with pc copies being spread). You'll just have chinks making a more refunded copy of palworld that's 10x bigger to fill that gap because gamefreak certainly isn't going to do it.
>>724233718>years beforeMother 1 was released in 1989, same year as SC chapter 1.JoJo is fucking old, zoomie-kun, Part 1 was releasd in 1987...
>>724261278I already have a laptop. Thanks though.
>>724260804>The most notorious one being the Halo 2 Multiplayer Map Pack. A downloadable content (DLC) collection for Halo 2. It was released on July 5, 2005, for $19.99The idea of expansion packs existed well before then but if you want to go with dlc as we know it then games like Sonic Adventure 2 had costume DLC. Which also falls under microtransactions mind you. As for paid subscriptions Sega Meganet was a thing in 1990.So yeah, ms didn't start any of those. It wasn't until the ps4 that these things became accepted among the masses since under microsoft free weekends and the like were pretty abundant.
>>724213238I don't understand how you parent something that's been in the industry for, what, 40+ years now?It'd be like me showing up and patenting shoe-laces.
>>724261536>you retards don't even speculate on stocksYeah I do
>>724261172>Japanese courts>>Not US where the patents were filedThey were filed in both Japan and the US.They're also Japanese companies so they're using the Japanese versions of the patents.
Just don't steal Nintendo's ideas. It's literally that simple.
>>724261768>>724251891
>>724261536says the guy who has his gay little images savedkek
>>724261213software patents are fucking bogus. europeans are sane enough to realize it. fuck your courts
>>724261794Correct.Only Nintendo can steal ideas.
>>724261768except we all know you're wearing velcro, so that patent wouldn't hold
>>724261659>release is developmentSwing and a miss. Also magician's red was introduced in chapter 2 and part 1 obviously didn't have stands.But hey, at least you still have your youth anon.
>>724256984We need a version of Hellmarch with Bing Boing Wahoo sounds mixed in.
>>724261887>t. seething snoy
>>724261887These aren't software patents.
>>724261773Then you are the exception, not the rule. Post your NTDOY trades/holdings
>>724213238Imma bet it's not that at all and once again people reading the abstract only and think the abstract is the entire patent.
>>724261875>so assblasted he searched the imageKEK. Literal reddit behaviour>I checked your profile and it appears I'm arguing with a Glompf supporter
>>724261916You just made me realize that I actually don't have shoes with shoe-laces, but I don't have velcro either. Just men's business dress shoes and sandals. Huh.
>>724261659Stardust crusaders chapter 1 released in 89, two years after Mother 1 entered development.
>>724262143you got exposed my guy, take the L and close the tab
>>724213238Nintendo is about to own gaming.
>>724261997Wrong.
>>724261718>The idea of expansion packs existed well before then but if you want to go with dlc as we know it then games like Sonic Adventure 2 had costume DLC. Which also falls under microtransactions mind you.>As for paid subscriptions Sega Meganet was a thing in 1990.Yes, and Sony was against all this shit.It was only when they lost market dominance, with the major fuckups early on the PS3 lifespan, that everything went downhill.
>>724262143>Someone disagrees with me? They must hate Trump!Don't worry bud, only another 2 more years and he can admit he failed to protect the border with his retarded wall. Oh, and that whole "ending the war in ukraine" thing? Never happened!
>>724262562>keeps shitting blood after being exposed for being a gay little console warrior manchild with a console wars folder and doubles down on it like he's actually proud of that factkek
>>724262050Don't think I have any. If I did they're part of an ETF or mutual fund.
>>724216867>Wizards would call up spirits, familiars, demonsWho.When.What fucking year did this happen?
>>724260240>2020Wow you're either desperate or stupid.
>>724262736Pokemon are animals, not spirits/familiars/demons. Summoning animals is a core idea that Nintendo implemented, and trying to move goalposts doesn't change that fact.
>>724217821Shin megami tensei did it years before pokemon did, sweety.
>>724213238I don't think OP is even aware how much shit has been patented by others, but it's only bad when Nintendo does it I guess.
Remember when Nintendo sued the shit out of some South American corner store because it was named Mario after the owner? kek
>>724217821>Summoning monsters to fight for you" is a Pokemon thingIf you're implying they pioneered this concept you're wrong.
>>724263268YOU are wrong retard nigger child.
>>724263219yeah, and the guy had to remove all of the nintendo shit in his store (but got to keep the store's name as is).still shitty though, i wonder how they even got to know in the first place
>>724263219Yeah something along the lines of their marts commonly being called "supers" and his was Super Mario. They lost by the way. Get fucked.
>>724263339because his retard son tried to trademark "Super Mario"
>>724263389>They lost by the wayit's more nuanced than that, but they did lose on the naming claim, yeah.
>>724263457>NNNNNOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO YOU CAN'T JUST TAKE OWNERSHIP OF YOUR OWN NAME, NINTENDO, SUE THAT MAN
>>724262868Animal companions date back to first edition dungeons and dragons
>>724263325I disagree.
>>724263557You didn't summon them, they just existed. In Pokemon you summon them. There's a major difference.
>>724263530Some random japanese company now owns the roman language.
>>724261934Yes with millions of s o y boys singing it.
>>724263653D'ri''zt Do'Durd'en summons his panther thing from a figurine.
>>724263584Projecting
>>724263796Manifest != summon.
>>724263754no, but they do own and actively use the "Super Mario" trademark
>>724263584Get that ass banned lmao.
>>724263886I'm obviously being hyperbolic you don't need to correct the record.
>>724262868pokemon are closer to mythical demons/spirits/ familiars than actual animals. There's even ghost pokemon
>>724263884It comes from a literal other plane of existence, how is that not summoning
>>724264475Because Pokemon do not come from another plane of existence you inbred retard.
>>724263653It's a tiny distinction on a common concept
>>724242446>inb4 shitendo sues city governments over suspension bridges
>>724262826>gaming pc and laptops alone sold over 60 billion in revenue>not even including home builtnormies are catching lmao
>>724264529https://pokemonfireash.fandom.com/wiki/Pok%C3%A9mon_universe>Deoxys's unnamed worldMain article: Deoxys's unnamed worldDeoxys's unnamed world is another world. Deoxys had to hide here because of the force created by the meteor. The geomagnetic forces were too powerful for it to handle and caused it intense pain.>Alternate planes of existence or dimensionsMain article: DimensionsThe universe is also connected to the Unown Dimension, the Ghost World, the Distortion World, Ultra Space, the Temporal World, the Spatial World and Arceus' World. These dimensions can all be traveled to and from from the Pokémon world.
>>724264543Lol, I don't know if this is some kind of mod or if it's serious.
>>724213238>gamesfrayThe writer isn't even a lawyer so I am completely skeptical of anything he writes about this.
>>724264543Bridges are common concepts
>>724262986I fucking knew the Desire Sensor was real.
>>724264785I'm surprised every journalist uses him as a source. It's strange.
I hope Nintendo makes Palworld go bankrupt and all profits go directly to Miyamoto's private yacht collection. Paltrannies should kill themselves. You are brown and think stealing from Nintendo is okay.
>>724264529so they aren't being summoned
>>724216438Eh it’s our only choice. Chinks are obsessed with ugly genshin chars and the west is still obsessed with male to female trans. Japan just does cute girls better.
>>724265095Because 'Nintendo bad' takes priority over facts and logic.
>nintendiscord trannies spam CPwhy are tendies so deranged?
>>724262491>and Sony was against all this shit.Which they weren't, in fact they embraced it with open arms and popularised it. With the ps4 they even got rid of those previously mentioned free weekends and trials were harder to come by. They even added the card requirement to activate trials so you couldn't simply make a new account and get a new one.
>>724223321HE was the good guy all along, chuds.HE warned us and we didnt listen
>>724265597in this case...Kadabra is actually cooler than some faggot
>>724265319That's what hating Nintendo does to a person.
>>724213238man I hope palworld's lawyers just go "final fantasy, chrono trigger, digimon" and fucking mic drop.
>>724265761This has nothing to do with palworld
>>724265597Imagine being so irrationally angry at a company that you would defend a jew who was living up to his religion.
>>724265761God I can see it now>"your honor final fantasy, chrono trigger, digimon">what about them?>"they all have summoning mechanics!">okay, and?>"what do you mean" and?">you are aware that isn't what you're here for, correct?
>>724265863yea except for two of those games pre dating pokemon with the exact same mechanics they somehow just now patented. digimon is such a blatant, decades old copy of pokemon and somehow this was never an issue to them.
>>724213856Nintendo did not invent the glider, it's another thing they ripped off from far cry, just cause, and other open worlds.
>>724223393Gacha games are just that powerful. Especially once the sunk cost hits for the non-whales, they'll start excusing monthly/weekly purchases since they've been playing for so long anyway.Whales and their exceedingly high capability to kneel and click the "spend $100?" button 40 times a month is something else that needs to be studied though.
>>724218535Yeah.
>>724266147>with the exact same mechanics they somehow just now patentedProblem is that they don't have any of those mechanics.
>>724213845Do you know what a fox is?
>>724259115Meanwhile, in reality.
>>724266147Then you're simply misunderstanding what is being patented
>>724266307ok tendie.
>>724266407>wheels don't even turnJesus, all they had to do was turn them. 90 degrees.
Palworld won.
>>724217928You mean hourly.
>>724266308Yeah, my husband.
>>724266418Okay if you think they do then show how they function.
>>724264760It's serious, look up archaludon. Gamefreak has been so creatively bankrupt for over 15 years now they create shit like this.
>>724266532>>724265863
>>724234665Yes, tendies are rabid cultists with zero standards, we know.
>>724266592Huh, it actually looks pretty fucking cool.
>>724267129Oh hey, it's a staple remover too.
>>724253520>EAThe difference is EA will sell you their games for $2 on sale after a few years.In a few years, Nintendo will sell you basegame ZA for $90.
>>724260106>or they wouldn't be getting sued in the first placelollmao
>>724264820Are they? Can you produce a bridge based on your own efforts? No you can't and Nintendo should be able to patent that.
>>724267476>Can you produce a bridge based on your own efforts?Yes.
>>724267476Have a (You)
>>724256178And that image right there is why nintendo is pissing and shitting themselves so hard every tendie feels compelled to desperately add their own excrement to the pile.
>>724267856How often do you reply to yourself on any given day?
>>724217605>nintendo sues the chinese government>the most obvious "david v goliath" lawsuit in history>people will defend china's gambling spy software instead of nintendo>radiation poisoning suddenly hits entire nintendo board>"based" youtubers and /v/iggers celebrate this as a win for gaming>after losing nintendo is dissolved and tencent now produces every single game on the planetSomeone will reply to this pretending thats a good outcome.
The worst of this is all Nintendo adults supporting these actions.
>>724268816You'll survive
>>724268816Pretty sure that the worst part is Urr
